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Bill Kristol, at Rightweb

Bill Kristol, at Rightweb

“The Case for Nationalism” is a four-day course in Jerusalem this December, “led by Dr. William Kristol,” says the neoconservative Hertog Foundation. Kristol is a gritty practitioner of the Washington arts; but his course has a soulful theme:

“Are deeply felt national histories so easy to forget, and is it really desirable that they be forgotten?”

$2,000 for Israelis, $3,000 for everyone else. Apply here

In Hertog’s course description, Dr. Kristol lays out his aggressive neoconservative view of the world order. First, he mocks liberals as Jetsons for not believing in the nation-state, but believing in amorphous human rights:

In Europe, we see the dominant moral and political idea of our age—“human rights”—in its most advanced form. All persons everywhere are entitled to equal dignity and equal protections… Human rights cannot be secured by nations, and excessive national pride is a threat to the new ideal of the free, sovereign, cosmopolitan individual. The nation must be overcome and replaced by a centralized governing body that is large enough to protect global citizens from global threats…

Dr. Kristol is sure to tell his pupils that the U.S. should invade countries and attack them to preserve order. Isn’t that what he means by “special responsibilities”?

In America, we see the ideals of universal liberty and natural rights combined with a belief in the exceptional character and special responsibilities of the American nation. Does American power serve the interests of world order? Do Americans believe in their own exceptionalism, or do they seek to become a nation among the nations?

Dr. Kristol rounds on his central subject: Israel versus the EU.

The question of nationalism takes on special significance for citizens of Israel, the world’s only Jewish State. Zionism is a form of nationalism, and the founding of Israel represents the culmination of ancient longings for the rebirth of Jewish sovereignty in the Jewish homeland. But it was also founded in partial response to World War II and the Shoah it perpetrated on European Jewry. If the intellectual architects of the European Union believe that the national form causes violence and stands in the way of a more harmonious world, the intellectual architects of the State of Israel believed the opposite—that only a state dedicated to the protection of the Jewish people will ensure their welfare and prosperity.

That’s unreconstructed Zionism, without a Palestinian in sight.

And do you have any question why the neoconservatives pushed the Iraq war to remake the Middle East? It was one of the U.S.’s “special responsibilities.”

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  1. bilal a
    bilal a
    July 25, 2014, 2:12 pm

    when Brooklyn rolled into Germany, [ Irving ] Kristol’s generation :

    “My wartime experience in Germany,” he recalled, had “the effect of dispelling any remnants of antiauthority sentiments … that were cluttering up my mind. My fellow soldiers were too easily inclined to loot, to rape, and to shoot prisoners of war. Only army vigilance kept them in check.” He felt sympathy for the civilian population of the enemy nation: “observing German women and young girls, living among the rubble and selling their bodies for a few packs of cigarettes … rid me of any anti-German feeling which, as a Jew, might otherwise have been present in me.” What’s more, “I was not so convinced that the American soldiers I knew were a different breed of humanity from their German counterparts.”

    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/kristol-reflections/

    • Krauss
      Krauss
      July 25, 2014, 2:27 pm

      Here’s the irony though:

      Kristol is pushing Jewish nationlism in Jerusalem but multiculturalism in the U.S., just like the hypocrite Adelson is for amnesty in the US(cheap labor for him, even if he pretends he cares about the people) but would go nuts if the Africans got asylum in Israel.

      Kristol/Adelson et al just prove what needs to be proved: a lot of people who push policies in the US do so out of racial self-interest and not out of genuine liberalism. It would be foolish to think this phenomenon is only in the Jewish community.

      There is no difference between Kristol and a white nationalist like Duke, who is in many ways a very mild/mellow figure(even if we all know his vegetarian/vegan propaganda and “human rights” is just a veil).

      • traintosiberia
        traintosiberia
        July 25, 2014, 8:19 pm

        Zionist has perfected the art of enjoying one set of values,legal protection ,military order,economic relation,and egalitarian socialism for themselves and another set for the rest who should not organize on any particular value based system ,on any broad based participatory political and economic principles ,or be allowed any exclusiveness unless the exclusionary practices exclude the enemies of Zionist . That’s hy victims in ME ( even the Christian) are unwelcome but those from Ex Soviet are always .
        Multiculturalism can be a strength but only if the Zionists are not allowed near to the levers of the power . They will destroy it .

      • NCINA
        NCINA
        July 25, 2014, 9:11 pm

        Krauss

        The ethnic makeup of Jews in Israel
        Mizrahi Jews and Sephardic Jews 2,721,000 50.2%
        Morocco 800,000 15.2%
        Iraq 204,000 7.7%
        Yemen 295,000 4.9%
        Iran 236,000 4.0%
        Algeria/Tunisia 224,000 3.8%
        Other Asia 150,000 2.5%
        Turkey 147,000 2.5%
        Libya 136,000 2.3%
        Egypt 112,000 1.9%
        Other Asia 200,000 1.7%
        India/Pakistan 76,000 1.3%
        South America 25,000 0.04%
        Other Africa (Not South Africa) 3,000 0.05%
        Beta Israel (Ethiopia) 130,000 2.2%

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        July 26, 2014, 1:31 pm

        “The ethnic makeup of Jews in Israel”

        Well, who’d have thunk it! Not a single “Ashkenazi” Jew in Israel! Which only shows how great Zionism is, if they could get along with out the much-vaunted 15 pt. Ashkenazi IQ bonus, and still steal a country.

      • bilal a
        bilal a
        July 26, 2014, 12:07 pm

        weird how so many neocons claim to be european german or austrian by claim or choice of name: eg gertrude himmelfarb?? kristol, kristol’s mother, krauthammer, schumer

        All of the above are of Ukrainian ethnicity-

        But originally from Israel where their families lived for 3000 years.

  2. atime forpeace
    atime forpeace
    July 25, 2014, 2:17 pm

    Making Israel a reason for the Iraq war is one bridge the Neocons do not want erected.

    Israel-first Neoconservatives are very sensitive and have a heightened sensibility for the scent of anti-semitism or that other favorite of theirs “self hating jew”.

    “Unreconstructed Zionism without a Palestinian in sight” describes their colonialist supremacist mindset so well, the end justifies the means. Not much else matters to them. They are dinosaurs of political evolution.

  3. James Canning
    James Canning
    July 25, 2014, 2:27 pm

    Perhaps the primary purpose of the idiotic and illegal US invasion of Iraq in 2003 was to “protect” Israel. Meaning, facilitate expansion of illegal settlements in West Bank.

    • NCINA
      NCINA
      July 25, 2014, 9:21 pm

      James Canning

      Poppycock!Israel uses it own personnel to defend itself. It bombed the Oserik nuclear reactor. US and coalition intervention/interference has only made the region more unstable.

      -The US arms and trains Fatah ‘security forces.’
      – The US approved a record $60 billion arms deal to gross human rights abuser Saudi Arabia.
      -The US has its Fifth Fleet in Bahrain.
      -Has a military base in Saudi Arabia.
      -The US has intervened via NATO in Libya.

      The US *arguably* has gone risking life and limb often with a coalition to help Muslims as per: Somalia, Kuwait, Bosnia, Iraq, Afghanistan. Not to mention the US has their bases in rich countries: Saudia Arabia,Germany, Japan and South Korean costing billions.

      Exactly how does Israel benefit?

      Exactly how as the

      • Reuben_Manhattan
        Reuben_Manhattan
        July 26, 2014, 4:57 am

        “Conflict with Iraq – An Israeli Perspective”.

        12 September 2002

        (Mr. Netanyahu address in a hearing hosted by the House Committee on Government Reform )
        Though I am today a private citizen, I believe I speak for the overwhelming majority of Israelis in supporting a preemptive strike against Sadaam’s regime. We support this preemptive American action even though we stand on the frontlines, while others criticize it as they sit comfortably on the sidelines. But we know that their sense of comfort is an illusion. For if action is not taken now, we will all be threatened by a much greater peril.

        We support this action because it is possible today to defend against chemical and biological attack. There are gas masks, vaccinations and other means of civil defense that can protect our citizens and reduce the risks to them.

        Indeed, a central component of any strike on Iraq must be to ensure that the Israeli government, if it so chooses, has the means to vaccinate every citizen of Israel before action is initiated. Ensuring this is not merely the responsibility of the government of Israel, but also the responsibility of the government of the United States.

        Let me repeat: The governments of Israel and the United States must jointly ensure that the people of Israel have all the available means of civil defense before action begins.

        But no gas mask and no vaccine can protect against nuclear weapons. That is why regimes that have no compunction about using weapons of mass destruction, and who will not hesitate to give them to their terror proxies, must never be allowed to acquire nuclear weapons. These regimes must be brought down before they possess the power to bring us all down.

        If a preemptive action will be supported by a broad coalition of free countries and the United Nations, all the better. But if such support is not forthcoming, then the United States must be prepared to act without it. International support for actions that are vital to a nation’s security is always desirable, but it must never constitute a precondition. If you can get it, fine. If not, act without it.

      • James Canning
        James Canning
        July 26, 2014, 1:57 pm

        The Israel lobby made the illegal and idiotic US invasion of Iraq possible. And Bibi Netanyahu was a cheerleader for the idiotic and illegal invasion.

      • James Canning
        James Canning
        July 26, 2014, 4:01 pm

        NCINA – – Wrong. The conspiracy to set up the illegal and idiotic US invasion was intended to benefit Israel. Full stop. This fact has been suppressed for past decade and longer.

    • MRW
      MRW
      July 26, 2014, 6:06 am

      Well, James Canning, we’ve long known around here that we went to war to protect Israel because Zelikow said it. This is from a Cedar City, Utah newspaper article that has been wiped from the web (of course). The reporter was interviewing Senator Orrin Hatch who intimated that the war was for Israel. Here’s the dead link: http://www.thespectrum.com/article/20080414/OPINION/804140320/Iraq-war-really-about-Israel

      When Sen. Orrin Hatch stopped by The Spectrum offices last week,
      there was something he said that I’ve been wanting to hear for the last year.

      “The war? Let’s be honest about it. … I was asked how long I thought we’d be in Iraq and Afghanistan, and I said at least 10 years,” Hatch said, […] we can’t walk out now because we have commitments to Israel.” […]

      According to a report by the Inter Press Service, a member of the President’s Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board, Philip D. Zelikow, said the Iraq war had nothing to do with weapons of mass destruction, the main reason cited to go to war. IPS said Zelikow told a crowd at the University of Virginia on Sept. 10, 2002:

      “Why would Iraq attack America or use nuclear weapons against us? I’ll tell you what I think the real threat (is) and actually has been since 1990 – it’s the threat against Israel.

      “And this is the threat that dare not speak its name, because the Europeans don’t care deeply about that threat, I will tell you frankly. And the American government doesn’t want to lean too hard on it rhetorically, because it is not a popular sell,” said Zelikow.

      Yeah, who’s doing the ‘selling’? From the same article:

      But if you want to know the real reason behind the Iraqi war, it
      was the pro-Israel, neo-conservative influence of the Bush administration that lobbied for invasion of its [Israel’s] primary regional enemy.

      Former Sen. Ernest Hollings, D-S.C., acknowledged that sentiment in May 2004 when he said the U.S. invaded Iraq “to secure Israel” in several published accounts.

      As for NCINA’s ridick response, Israel benefits by selling us needless hyped security and defense systems, using the cover of war to build more settlements, and training our Canadian and Mexican border patrol and supposed local peace officers to act like the IDF are acting in Gaza right now. You’ve peddled and sprayed your Sparta shit all over this country, and that was planned from at least the day Philip Zelikow’s article appeared in Foreign Affairs, Nov-Dec 1998, Catastrophic Terrorism: Imagining the Transformative Event. (Which of course he subsequently chaired as top commissioner six years later.) You may think you’re getting away with it now, but history is not going to be kind to your ilk.

      • James Canning
        James Canning
        July 26, 2014, 2:04 pm

        Yes, the conspiracy to set up the illegal and idiotic US invasion of Iraq was intended to “protect” Israel, and foster further illegal colonization of the West Bank.

      • MRW
        MRW
        July 26, 2014, 7:44 pm

        James Canning (and annie and Phil)

        Watch this: “An Israeli Soldier’s Story – Eran Efrati”
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93hqlmrZKd8

        Phil, you wrote about Eran Efrati on July 12, 2014. The video above is Eran Efrati in Denver and he knocks it out of the park. You need to headline it. Nothing could be more timely.

  4. James Canning
    James Canning
    July 25, 2014, 2:29 pm

    William Kristol is quite prepared to see the US squander trillions of dollars on weapons and wars etc in the Middle East, to “protect” Israel. Meaning, facilitate illegal colonisation programme in the West Bank.

  5. Tzombo
    Tzombo
    July 25, 2014, 2:54 pm

    Eh…

    So Jews are horny and the US needs to get them off?

  6. Boomer
    Boomer
    July 25, 2014, 3:10 pm

    A recent poll revealed that Jews are American’s favorite religion (or ethnic group?), next to their own:

    “Whatever the cause, at some point during the last 100 years, America developed a little crush on the chosen people: Jews are officially cool.”

    Every group felt “warmest” about their own group, of course, especially Jews:

    “. . . respondents were much more likely to report feeling “warmly” toward the religious group they were part of; Catholics were all about other Catholics, evangelicals were enthusiastic about evangelicals, etc. Of all the groups in the survey, Jews felt most loyal to their own tribe; their mean “warmth” rating of other Jews was “89” out of 100, which roughly translates to “we’re totally awesome guys” on Pew’s ratings scale.”

    from: http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/07/americans-just-think-jews-are-the-coolest/374530/

    Reading your report, and watching the pictures from Gaza, leads me to wonder how long this popularity will last.

    • lysias
      lysias
      July 25, 2014, 3:40 pm

      In the early 20th century, America’s favorite ethnic group was the Armenians. Children who didn’t clean their plates were told to think about the starving Armenians. People were told all the time how horribly the Armenians were treated by the Turks.

      What, if anything, is left of that infatuation now?

      • Citizen
        Citizen
        July 25, 2014, 4:06 pm

        @ lysisas
        When I was growing up it was all about the starving people in China–that was the reason given to clean your dinner plate. Now the US is a debtor of China. One of the reasons is that the US borrow money from China at interest to give endless funds to Israel, and the US then gives Israel interest on the money it borrowed for Israel. How f***** up is that?

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        July 25, 2014, 6:58 pm

        “What, if anything, is left of that infatuation now?”

        It is also instructive to look at America’s national vogue for Nationalist China. Another case in which media (magazines, back then), money (the China Lobby) and personality were used to distort and corrupt American actions. Lot of parallels, odd as it may seem.

    • Mooser
      Mooser
      July 25, 2014, 7:56 pm

      “Whatever the cause, at some point during the last 100 years, America developed a little crush on the chosen people: Jews are officially cool”

      That’s funny, not one of the non-Jewish people I know ever expressed anything like that, at all. Most of them say “well, if the rest of them are anything like you I plan to avoid them whenever possible!”

    • Marnie
      Marnie
      July 26, 2014, 8:01 am

      The dumbing down effect of americans in full display.

      • James Canning
        James Canning
        July 26, 2014, 2:11 pm

        Too many Americans fail to see the endless war in the Middle East that Israel is in effect promoting.

  7. William Burns
    William Burns
    July 25, 2014, 3:29 pm

    Remember how great everything was when Europeans believed in their great national destinies? Human rights are so lame by comparison!

    • Mooser
      Mooser
      July 25, 2014, 7:58 pm

      “Remember how great everything was when Europeans believed in their great national destinies? Human rights are so lame by comparison!”

      But to a certain extent, they started to discard that after WW2. Threw large parts of it out. Zionism happened to be shopping for ideology at the time, saw that stuff in the dump, and said “Oh, look, a bargain!”

      • just
        just
        July 25, 2014, 8:02 pm

        excellent.

  8. Citizen
    Citizen
    July 25, 2014, 4:10 pm

    Why is it that most Jews I’ve ever known supported humanist values but now they despise those values? The UN gave Israel it’s home, but now the UN is viewed as anti-semitic. Not hard to see and old pattern, manifested by the question, “Is it good for the Jews?” Nobody else matters. Oddly, some people are catching on. Bill Kristol is a mirror of Joe Goebbels–the names have been changed to protect the guilty.

    • Mooser
      Mooser
      July 25, 2014, 6:52 pm

      “Why is it that most…”

      Citizen, I’ll tell you what I think, but please don’t tell anybody I said this, it’ll ruin my PC reputation. What happened was, Jews became white. I think it happened sometime shortly after the “6-day war” but I’m not sure exactly the date. They think it’s a permanent change, but I’m not so sure.

      It’s also possible that changes in America, the rise of conservatism, and the Christian fads (as they relate to Israel) and the new kinds of social segregation have allowed another cohort, a different cohort in the ‘Jewish community’ to become more prominent.

      “Not hard to see and old pattern, manifested by the question, “Is it good for the Jews?”

      Citizen, have you ever heard that whole joke?
      Everybody always laughs at the Rabbi’s question in response to being told an asteroid is going to hit the Earth and destroy all life, (“But is it good for the Jews, or bad for the Jews?”) but nobody ever hears the real punch line The actual punch line is: “Don’t be such a schmendrick Rabbi, it’s always bad for the Jews!”

      • Ron Edwards
        Ron Edwards
        July 25, 2014, 9:43 pm

        You nailed it about becoming white. I think 1967 only started the process, strangely in tandem with the Freedom Rides and subsequent events – odd as it seems, getting fired up about “tough Israel” went hand in hand with getting proud about being Jewish in the States and being politically active there. The clincher come later in the mid-70s. The 1973 war with the U.S.’s very public airlift and the mythology that Israel itself was literally threatened with annihilation … that was the transition, I think. It was right at the time of all those splinters from the PFLP committing atrocities and hijackings too.

        Plus, check out Mayor Rizzo’s successful campaign in Philadelphia to white-ify Italian Americans as a pushback vs. black civil rights, and dovetail it with the breakdown between black/Jewish activism when northern white discrimination started getting criticized instead of “those” nasty southerners “down there.” There’s a book called Broken Alliance by Jonathan Kaufman that starts some discussion about this and provides a lot of good details, but I think soft-pedals it too much – the topic deserves a lot more.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        July 26, 2014, 1:33 pm

        “You nailed it about becoming white.”

        Yes,yes, but the important thing is, don’t tell anybody I said that!

  9. W.Jones
    W.Jones
    July 25, 2014, 4:30 pm

    “The Case for Nationalism” sounds like a foreboding, perhaps very right-wing title in the context of modern America.

    • just
      just
      July 25, 2014, 4:46 pm
    • just
      just
      July 25, 2014, 4:46 pm

      We’re already there… of course you’ve heard about the border ‘crisis’ and the loonies protesting against and threatening children who are fleeing their home countries.

  10. John O
    John O
    July 25, 2014, 5:06 pm

    Has Bill got his finger there to stop his brain leaking?

  11. seanmcbride
    seanmcbride
    July 25, 2014, 7:13 pm

    Zionism has opened the door wide for the reemergence of white ethnic and Christian religious nationalism in Western culture — both in Europe and the United States — and all other forms of ethnic and religious nationalism as well all around the world. We all have “longings,” don’t you know. No form of ethnic or religious nationalism enjoys more innate legitimacy than any other — unless you are an Old Testament cultist.

    Great comment by Krauss above, by the way. He gets to the heart of the issue.

    • Mooser
      Mooser
      July 25, 2014, 7:51 pm

      “Zionism has opened the door wide for the reemergence of white ethnic and Christian religious nationalism in Western culture”

      Well, whether or not it “opened the door” I don’t know, it’s not like it takes a huge amount of brains or creativity to cook up a racist-nationalist cult. But nobody has done more with it than Zionism. How many of those Christian religious nationalists have stolen an entire country for their followers? They can’t even take over a county.
      No matter what any of those other people think of Jews, they have to admire Zionism, for accomplishing the things they only dream about. Why, those “sovereign citizens” are merely pale imitations of real settlers.

      • seanmcbride
        seanmcbride
        July 25, 2014, 8:02 pm

        Mooser,

        One has to admit this: whatever Zionists put their minds to, they do with great force and skill. They have managed to roll right over the American government — supposedly the most powerful institution on the planet — with the greatest of ease. Many Americans at this point have the distinct feeling that they have been colonized.

        I’ve been impressed by some of your recent comments. Clearly you have been thinking deeply about the problematic relations between Zionism and Judaism — a subject which has come up in some of our previous interesting exchanges. :)

        My current position is this: mainstream Judaism has so profoundly embraced Zionism for so long now (more than half a century) that I suspect it may be beyond recovery. It swallowed Zionism whole — every last little bit. Zionism is flowing through its veins. I guess we’ll have to see how that turns out. I’ve placed my bets.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        July 26, 2014, 1:36 pm

        Go boil your head, Sean. Not that it’ll do any good, but please, give it a try.
        I know you, and want nothing to do with you, okay?

        “My current position is this:”

        Oh, your current position seems to be about what it has always been. Remember to wipe your head when you get it out of there.

      • James Canning
        James Canning
        July 26, 2014, 2:13 pm

        The “American government” is deeply compromised. By the Israel lobby.

      • W.Jones
        W.Jones
        July 26, 2014, 2:18 pm

        I’m impressed with your sense of humor. But which part of his statement did you find offensive and why?

      • seanmcbride
        seanmcbride
        July 26, 2014, 4:00 pm

        W.Jones,

        Israel Shahak mentioned a passage from the Talmud which relishes the prospect of Jesus being immersed in boiling excrement.

        Interesting reference by Mooser there (probably unconscious — or at least one hopes.)

        Regarding that passage, and the entire tradition, see this:

        Israel and Anti-Gentile Traditions
        http://www.myjewishlearning.com/beliefs/Issues/Jews_and_Non-Jews/Attitudes_Toward_Non-Jews/Biblical_and_Rabbinic/Anti-Gentile_Traditions.shtml

        The author, Ari Alexander, studies the modern Middle East at Oxford University.

        Alexander’s point of view:

        Israel Shahak’s theory that anti-Gentile traditions have influenced Israeli policy is well known in both Arab and anti-Semitic circles, but Jews have yet to properly confront it.

      • seanmcbride
        seanmcbride
        July 26, 2014, 3:19 pm

        Mooser,

        Oh, your current position seems to be about what it has always been.

        My position is that the contemporary Jewish religious establishment has swallowed Zionism hook, line and sinker and merged Judaism and Zionism into a single messianic ethno-religious nationalist ideology based on ancient biblical memes (especially sacred peoplehood and sacred territory).

        If you have any thoughtful critiques of this position, please share them. I’ve read a few dozen first-rate scholarly books on this topic and am always open to learning more about these issues from well-informed people.

        As usual, if this thread is closed, it can always be pursued here at any length:

        https://friendfeed.com/mondoweiss-on-friendfeed

      • seanmcbride
        seanmcbride
        July 26, 2014, 3:31 pm

        Mooser,

        What do you envision as the consequences of the worldwide Jewish religious establishment embracing the ideology of Zionism and nearly all Israeli government policies without reservation? How do you think this situation will unfold moving forward?

  12. piotr
    piotr
    July 25, 2014, 7:55 pm

    ” If the intellectual architects of the European Union believe that the national form causes violence and stands in the way of a more harmonious world, …”

    I doubt if Kristol could invent that “argument” unaided: to me, he will remain forever the intellectual mentor of Dan Quaile. But I have seen this circulated by other Israeli and pro-Israeli think-tankers. Surely, this is a ridiculous caricature, as EU very much consists of nation states, taking care of the welfare of their citizens first, and within their borders, of the welfare of the dominant ethnicity first. However, after VERY painful experiences, all (most?) European countries agreed to some limits on sovereignty. For example, a law passed by national parliament can be challenged in European Court. I guess various Israeli “absentee” laws would not pass the muster. And I wonder if administering more than 90% of the land by “ethnic foundations” would be OK.

    In other words, nationalism is clearly present in Europe, is clearly defended in Europe, but it has some limits. For that matter, American courts do not use religion and ethnicity to determine property rights either. As Israel is clearly not within these limits, the issue is not “nationalism” but “ultra-nationalism”.

  13. traintosiberia
    traintosiberia
    July 25, 2014, 11:59 pm

    And his friend Goldberg. has found out the desire of Palestininan to die in the hands of Israelis/ ” My old sparring partner, Jeffrey Goldberg, has been busy pondering why Hamas has sent hundreds of rockets – with no fatalities – into Israel. He argues that it does this in order to kill Palestinians. It’s an arresting idea, and it helps perpetuate the notion that there are no depths to which these Islamist fanatics and war criminals will not sink. “. http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2014/07/14/understanding-the-permanence-of-greater-israel/
    and the simple” mistake ” by Netanuououououo to disregard 2 state solution. A simple mistake along with all the correct missiles and precise bombings , so on balance Zio are doing good .
    Did not the neocons say Iranisn would love an attack ? Did not neocons say that Iraqis were dying for freedom and waiting for Americans to come to welcome them with roses.
    One wonders why the prison guard changed the tunes . Why not roses welcoming the Zio slaughter machine? Palestininans don t love roses anymore !

    Kristol is upset that American media is enjoying the show of the slaughter without lifting any weight ,shouldering any burden. 30 deaths is unacceptable . Exceptional America should have fought instead the IDF. This is what hurting him most.

  14. MRW
    MRW
    July 26, 2014, 6:48 am

    Kristol can wax as lyrical as he wants about about nation states and Israel’s romantic claim to one, but he gets America wrong. We’re not a democracy. We’re a republic. And the operative definition of a republic is a nation of laws. That provides the ostensible justice. That provides the ostensible human rights. That provides the ostensible ideals of liberty and rights. Not his verkakte nanny-gun concept of a bully on the block that Israel can say it’s emulating.

  15. DICKERSON3870
    DICKERSON3870
    July 27, 2014, 11:23 am

    RE: “Dr. Kristol’s curriculum: US ‘special responsibilities’ include ‘ancient longings’ . . .”

    MY COMMENT: Speaking of “ancient longings”, have y’all seen this? Lordy mercy, y’all; ain’t that sumpin’sumpin’?
    What about this ‘n, do y’all s’pose it’ll better satisfy Dr. Kristol’s ‘ancient longings’?
    Y’all, I hate to run, but if y’all’ll ‘[s]cuse me, I’ve got some ‘”ancient longin’s” of my own to ‘tend to.

  16. DICKERSON3870
    DICKERSON3870
    July 27, 2014, 11:26 am

    RE: “Dr. Kristol’s curriculum: US ‘special responsibilities’ include ‘ancient longings’ . . .

    MY COMMENT: Speaking of “ancient longings”, have y’all seen this? Lordy mercy, y’all; ain’t that sumpin’? That sho’ does get an old feller’s ticker a’pumpin’!
    What about this ‘n, do y’all s’pose it’ll better satisfy Dr. Kristol’s ‘ancient longings’?
    Y’all, I hate to run, but if y’all’ll ‘[s]cuse me, I’ve got some “ancient longin’s” of my own to ‘tend to.

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