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Jews Say No, from the last  Israeli massacre in Gaza

Jews Say No demo, from the last Israeli massacre in Gaza, 2009

Just got this in the inbox. The vigil is tomorrow August 12, from 6-7 PM, at the Jewish Community Center building at 75th and Amsterdam.

A SILENT VIGIL IN SOLIDARITY WITH THE
PALESTINIAN PEOPLE OF GAZA

WHY ARE WE GATHERING:

Shamefully, “over 50 Israeli-associated New York organizations” will be gathering then at the JCC on the UWS of Manhattan to “commemorate Israeli soldiers and civilians who lost their lives during ‘Operation Protective Edge,”‘ the bombing campaign of Gaza, without one mention of Palestinian lives lost.

We are appalled at this blatant valuing of Jewish and Jewish Israeli lives over the nearly 2,000 Palestinians, including hundreds of children, who have been massacred by the Israeli army. To express our opposition to a perverse ethic that values only Jewish lives and ignores Israeli war crimes, the siege of Gaza, and an ongoing brutal occupation, please join us in a silent vigil across from the JCC.

WHAT WE WANT TO DO:

We want to create a silent presence that says loudly and clearly, with our signs and banners and names of Palestinian dead, that many Jews and others on New York’s upper west side stand in solidarity with our Palestinian sisters and brothers and staunchly oppose a politics of ‘Israel right or wrong.’

co-sponsored by: Jewish Voice for Peace-NYC, Jewish Voice for Peace–Westchester, Jews Say No!, Women in Black-NY

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  1. LuLu
    LuLu
    August 11, 2014, 4:06 pm

    Very True, “what Jewish Law Permits killings of so many people” What is deeply appalling is Zionist hide behind Judaism and the Jewish name when the two are a completely different beliefs. Zionism was created by a delusional man who did not even believe in God, 117 years ago. Where Jewish Laws were created and handed down to the Jews by Prophet Moses via God, thousands of years ago. To God we all shall return and be judged, but I am certain for one thing, anyone who put a side Gods laws and followed man made, is certainly not going to get a pass free from punishment or hell. This goes for all people in different faiths as well.

    • RoHa
      RoHa
      August 12, 2014, 3:46 am

      “.Where Jewish Laws were created and handed down to the Jews by Prophet Moses via God, ”

      I think you mean “by God via Moses”

      Actually, although it purports to be based on the principles laid down by the prophets, most Christian, Jewish, and Islamic law was cooked up by men. Much of it, it seems, by miserable old men who hated everyone, and especially women. I think they never had a girlfriend, never had any fun, and didn’t want anyone else to have any either.

    • ezra greenberg
      ezra greenberg
      August 12, 2014, 12:44 pm

      Under Jewish law, if someone comes to kill you, you are allowed to “wake up early and kill him first.” Well, despite the spin any lefties want to put on it, those missiles (errrr……I mean firecrackers or bottle rockets) out of Gaza were an express intent to kill. Indeed a Hamas spokesmen once said that they had not repudiated the suicide bombings of the past, which were there calling card, but that rockets were more efficient. Whatever. I will repeat again, because it is worth repeating, this carnage that rained down on the Palestinians heads were for the most part self inflicted. Wake up!!! Hamas is willing to do this over and over again, and bring death and destruction to you, down to the very last photo op.

  2. bilal a
    bilal a
    August 11, 2014, 6:17 pm

    For the Israeli Left , religious freedom is the answer to Gaza. The kind of religious freedom which outlaws Islamic political movements, but not Jewish ones, because, after all, even if they are arguably ‘people’, they are not like ‘us’. They rejoice in their own dead children; they are aliens, ‘from another world.’

    ———-
    We function on the assumption that Hamas is made up of people like us. This is only partialy true. They are people, but they are not like us. They are people who pretended they were fighting for independence and when they were given the opportunity to rule themselves in Gaza, all they cared about was carrying on the fight. They are people who received billions of dollars that could have been used to make Gaza a flourishing port in the Middle East and instead spent it on thousands of rockets and terror tunnels. They are people who seem bouyed by our dead as well as their own, especially the children, and view casualties as fuel for the fire of the Islamic Revolution. So to be clear: They are from another world and another era — a world and an era that has no value for the sanctity of life.

    Any peace process will have to gurantee that an Islamic movement never, ever, rises to power on our border. Yes, it is not easy to accept that our enemies are so problematic. But one does not choose his enemies.

    Shachar Ilan is vice president of the “Hiddush Association For Religious Freedom and Equality”. The opinion piece is not written on behalf of the association.

    http://www.i24news.tv/en/opinion/39905-140811-it-s-time-to-acknowledge-that-the-disengagement-from-gaza-failed

  3. wondering jew
    wondering jew
    August 11, 2014, 7:03 pm

    ‘Zionism was created by a delusional man” obviously refers to Herzl. Leaving aside the question of delusion, though Herzl’s contribution should not be underestimated, neither should he be credited with creating Zionism. Zionism existed before him. True, as a movement if herzl had never been born, it would probably have failed to procure the Balfour Declaration without the boost of organization and propaganda and motivation provided by the efforts of Herzl. But it existed before Herzl.

    • talknic
      talknic
      August 11, 2014, 10:08 pm

      @ yonah fredman “… as a movement if herzl had never been born, it would probably have failed to procure the Balfour Declaration without the boost of organization and propaganda and motivation provided by the efforts of Herzl. But it existed before Herzl.”

      Prior to 1897 Jews had already been migrating to the region, gaining citizenship, buying land and settling!

      The members of the Zionist Movement could also have gone to live in the Jewish peoples historic homeland while they had the opportunity. But even Herzl, who had in his life time the opportunity to go live in Palestine gain citizenship buy land and settle there, didn’t bother!

      When you examine the Zionist Movement’s rhetoric carefully it doesn’t add up. They’re thieves and liars.

      By demanding a Jewish state they robbed Israeli Jews of the right to settle anywhere in the Jewish peoples historic homeland. It is now ILLEGAL for Israelis be they Jewish or Arab, to settle in non-Israeli territory as citizens of Israel, especially in territory under Israeli military occupation.

      They immediately robbed Israelis of their promised constitution, thereby robbing them of having a legally elected government under the promised constitution.

      They’re liars. Offering equality to Arab inhabitants while at the same time dispossessing them. As if the drafters of the declaration didn’t know what was happening under Plan Dalet!

      They lie about not having proclaimed borders

      You’re either one of them or you’re barking up the wrong tree buddy! If the former YOU’RE the problem. If the latter go bark at the Zionist Federation!

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        August 12, 2014, 12:37 am

        “Failed to procure the Balfour Declaration”

        Yonah seems very confused about history, doesn’t he? Very, very confused.

        I don’t get what’s so great about the “Balfour Declaration” Why is a “Declaration” by a colonial power, or foreign ruler (Britain) supposed to be binding on the people in the area? It wasn’t even a treaty.

        Screw the Balfour Declaration, it means nothing and has no legal force.

      • philweiss
        philweiss
        August 12, 2014, 9:16 am

        Good one Mooser, as Scott Roth said to me the other day, quoting Thomas Friedman, It’s not Scandinavia. Of course it’s not Scandinavia. Scandinavia was not carved up by colonial powers that drew the borders and imposed states on the region. Sykes Picot is getting a relook these days because of Iraq and Syria’s miseries. Why not Balfour too? It’s all of a piece.

  4. CitizenC
    CitizenC
    August 11, 2014, 7:07 pm

    Yet another “Jewish debate”, public relations and implicit accusations of anti-semitism for the gentiles. Take these people seriously when they lead a public movement against the Jewish establishment.

  5. tokyobk
    tokyobk
    August 12, 2014, 9:06 am

    “Take these people seriously when they lead a public movement against the Jewish establishment.”

    You mean other than the public movement they are leading by standing in public against the Jewish establishment which is meeting as the official Jewish establishment detailed above?

  6. CitizenC
    CitizenC
    August 13, 2014, 8:33 am

    They are standing “as Jews”, not as mere US citizens. They demonstrate against the Jewish establishment “as Jews”, separately, without gentiles, though they attend “mixed” demonstrations “for Gaza”–en bloc.

    “A Jewish voice in the progressive community, a progressive voice in the Jewish community.” It’s two, two, two mints in one.

    It’s neither. It’s 50 years of gatekeeping of acceptable criticism, and shielding the Jewish establishment from direct public opposition.

    In the words of Count Clermont-Tonnerre, during the debates over emancipation in the French National Assembly in 1789, “to the Jews as a nation, nothing. To the Jews as individuals, everything.” In today’s idiom, “Jewish people yes, Zionism no!” to quote a chant at a (“mixed”!) demonstration outside a JCC a few major atrocities ago.

    The trouble is that the Jewish left, from Chomsky on down, as fanatically as the Jewish mainstream, is attached to Jewish separateness, distinction and difference, to the Zionist idea of “the Jewish people”, even if they interpret it differently.

    Thus we have this 50-year old “progressive Jewish” critique, of “anti-occupation”, “law and rights”, “Israel as strategic asset,” and “anti-anti-Semitism”. Rather than rejecting Zionism categorically, as did the classical traditions descended from Enlightenment and emancipation.

    The failure to confront Zionism, in the Jewish state, and in the US Jewish establishment and its overwhelming, malign influence, is the greatest disaster on the left since the German Communist Party misread Nazism, weakened the left, and assisted the rise of Hitler and all that followed.

    See for instance “The End of Modern Jewish History”

    http://questionofpalestine.net/2014/04/05/the-end-of-modern-jewish-history/

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