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This Thursday was a day of terror in Israel. Almost immediately after an ultra-Orthodox fanatic Yishai Schlisser stabbed six people at the Jerusalem Gay Pride Parade, Jewish extremists perpetrated an arson attack in the village of Douma, near Nablus, killing a one-and-a-half year-old Palestinian toddler.

Both crimes were explicitly condemned by the Israeli Prime-Minister, Benyamin Netanyahu, who even expressed his “shock and horror” at the events. Yet, both would not have been possible without the climate of hatred incited by Netanyahu’s own extreme right-wing government.

Indeed, incitement is a staple feature of Netanyahu’s political CV. In the months preceding the assassination of Yitzhak Rabin, he addressed protest rallies where the then Prime-Minister of Israel was called “traitor”—a charged echoed by Netanyahu—and was depicted in SS uniform. More recently, he again resorted to labeling his political rivals “a danger to the country,” as he did in the case of Tzipi Livni prior to the March general elections.

Eager to maintain his coalition at any cost, Netanyahu is ready to cater to their interests, which he at least partially shares, such as virtually unlimited construction of new Jewish housing units on the occupied Palestinian territories. As a result, the supporters of the far-right parties that take part in a fragile coalition feel that they can act with impunity, even when it comes to arsons, stabbings, and other deplorable acts.

With criminal expropriation of Palestinian lands being supported by government decrees, crimes against the so-called natural enemies of the settlers and the ultra-religious (namely Palestinian people and whoever else is considered “impure” according to their theological interpretations) become the order of the day.  That is the common background behind Thursday’s violent events: the extremism of the Israeli political authorities normalizes behavior that would have been otherwise construed as an aberration, a criminal exception—in a word, extreme.

Usually, considered in geometrical terms, the center of a circle or the midpoint of a line is the relative standard against which to measure the extremes. However, when the center itself is extreme and extremist, as in present-day Israel, such geometrical logic no longer works. More specifically, the exception is no longer an outlier in relation to the general rule; rather, the general rule itself is exceptional and deranged.

Since its foundation, the State of Israel has understood itself as an exception, be it in geopolitical, historical, or even moral terms. It has been presented as the only “Jewish State” in the world, the only democracy in the Middle East, the only state created as a refuge place from the horrors of World War II… Hence, the paradox: a presumed democracy, reliant on the rule of law that is applicable in equal measure to all its citizens, it persists in a state of exception, wherein this same rule of law is indefinitely suspended, denied its Arab citizens, curtailed by Judaic religious authorities, and so forth.

Now, because Israel routinely sacrifices democratic law to “exceptional” decrees, justified primarily with reference to security concerns and the Jewish character of the polity, it is constitutively unable to comply with international law (which, to be sure, has its undeniable flaws), either. Its extremist position on the international stage is intimately bound to its internal extremism—a constant state of emergency, sustained above all (but not only) by the ongoing occupation of Palestine, that trumps legality.

Although it may appear that the current extremist Israeli government is an outlier or an aberration, it is nothing but an exaggerated version of the tendency that began already in 1948. Netanyahu only built upon the anti-democratic and downright criminal exceptionalism that his country had espoused since its inception. Systematically, throughout his political career, he has undermined any possibility for normalization, indissociable from a just peace with Israel’s Palestinian neighbors, and exploited the growing emergency to consolidate his grip on power. So much so that, on his watch, the political “center” has shifted far to the right and the left-wing opposition has been all but devastated.

Let us thus not be fooled by Netanyahu’s denunciations of the two attacks. Political acts speak louder than words, and the acts of Netanyahu at the head of an extremist government have prepared fertile grounds for the very occurrences that he publically laments. The Israeli Prime-Minister has promised to find and bring to justice those responsible for the death of Ali Saad Dawabsha, the toddler burned alive near Nablus. But is responsibility reducible to lighting a match or a torch and throwing it into an inhabited house? Does it not extend to the example, given by Netanyahu himself, who authorized military operations in Gaza that led to mass murders of Palestinian civilians, which, according to Amnesty International, amount to crimes against humanity?

So, if the condemnations of the two attacks are genuine, and if the notion of responsibility is well and thoroughly considered, then it is high time for Netanyahu to deliver himself to the tribunal of International Court of Justice in The Hague.

 

About Michael Marder

Michael Marder is IKERBASQUE Research Professor of Philosophy at the University of the Basque Country (UPV-EHU), Vitoria-Gasteiz, Spain. His most recent monographs include The Philosopher’s Plant: An Intellectual Herbarium (2014), Pyropolitics: When the World Is Ablaze (2015), and Dust (2016). He is now completing a book, co-authored with Luce Irigaray and titled Through Vegetal Being.

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  1. tokyobk
    tokyobk
    July 31, 2015, 10:44 pm

    Which is worse, being completely cynical, not giving a crap about the lives and property of the people being disrupted by occupation and then condemning this horrible act with feigned shock, mostly politically/PR motivated?

    Or, being genuinely shocked, and yet unable to see the connection between “genteel” occupation in the “suburbs” of Jerusalem etc… and the inevitability of this type of crime, committed by the advanced guard that escorts colonial settlement every single time, everywhere, in all of history?

    I vote the second and I believe its the case of the majority of Israelis and US supporters.

    • Bumblebye
      Bumblebye
      August 1, 2015, 6:56 am

      Tokyobk, how is it possible for your second option to pertain to Israelis? They, their kids, their neighbors and neighbors kids do national service. They’d have to be deliberately and wilfully blind to maintain that level of ignorance in Israel!

      • ziusudra
        ziusudra
        August 1, 2015, 7:35 am

        Greetings Bumblebye,
        Isn’t it ironic that after a diaster people, in general blame people.
        In our recent past, we blamed the German, Japanese, Russian, Chinese, American, Israeli people, etc. Yes, there are many opportunists in all of these nations, but their Goverments created those policies causing diaster.
        People cannot stop King BiBi, but Governments can.
        How will the destiny of King BiBi turn out? Will he be felled by the F. Hegel Triad of Causal, Triggar, Result or will Serendipity ride in & sweep him away?For the rest of his days, i wish him a palace with 365 bedrooms & a sleepless night in every one of them.
        ziusudra

    • Laurent Weppe
      Laurent Weppe
      August 1, 2015, 7:29 am

      There is a third option: realizing that pampering extremists did nothing to tame them and that society as a whole has become a collective of lackeys to the far-right whose members would rather burn to the ground the very country that sustain them than renounce their special status as a privileged “vanguard”.

      Those who can afford it get out of the bullies’ den, the rest just endure, and continue to defer to the far-right’s “slaughter the Palestinian into submission” platform because their fear being the first caught in the crossfire should Palestinian society gain enough firepower to start shooting back at the far-right bullies.

    • jimby
      jimby
      August 1, 2015, 10:50 am

      @ tokyobk: I think both indifference to “the other” and we would never be “that bad” are in play here.
      On another issue, I have been wandering the web trying to find out information about Yishai Schlisser. Is he from Brooklyn, what is the background? I am thinking that the JDL Meir Kahane tribe is the worst of the worst. Is he one of them?

  2. just
    just
    July 31, 2015, 11:14 pm

    “So, if the condemnations of the two attacks are genuine, and if the notion of responsibility is well and thoroughly considered, then it is high time for Netanyahu to deliver himself to the tribunal of International Court of Justice in The Hague.”

    I agree, Michael. The dock should be very crowded, though.

    “Deadly West Bank Arson Surprised No One in Israel’s Defense Establishment

    The torching of a house in the West Bank on Friday morning, in which a Palestinian infant was killed, caught no one in the defense establishment by surprise. For two years, the police and Shin Bet security service have identified a pattern of predawn attempts to set Palestinian houses on fire…”
    read more: http://www.haaretz.com/beta/.premium-1.668941

    Then there’s Torat HaMelech.

    It’s a sick society where violence toward the “other” is celebrated and valued. If 95% of Israelis celebrated/supported last summer’s massacre, then there something deeply sick in the psyche of the Occupiers. I read a lot of regret and disgust from Israelis and Jews today~ more than ever before. These 2 acts by Israeli terrorists seem to have shaken things up, but with no change coming from Israeli leaders, things will go back to the horrible status quo and ho- hum, life is good if you’re an Israeli Jew~ ain’t life grand!

    The violence did not end with Douma today. It continued all day, with murders, woundings, tear gas, skunk water sprayings, violence and terror toward the Occupied and mourning and angry.

    Netanyahu had the gall to ‘visit’ the hospital where the critically burned family was~ it was a gimmick. It, like everything he does and says, is all about him and his supremacist self. The very same ‘leaders’ that incite every day just mouthed the words. But the world’s supposed to be impressed that they FINALLY called it ‘terrorism’!

    The US couldn’t even bring themselves to mention illegal settlers or illegal settlements in their statement. Usually, they just say that it’s “unhelpful” when new settlements are announced and continue to veto at the UNSC. So the macabre dance continues.

    Thank you for this article, Michael Marder. I’m afraid that Israel needs a major international Intervention~ the kind one does with a very ill and destructive person.

    Nobody’s been apprehended. Mohammed Abu Khdeir’s murderers have not been convicted one year later. It’s the “same old, same old” I fear.

    • bintbiba
      bintbiba
      August 1, 2015, 4:12 am

      [email protected] Michael Marder
      ….”Usually, considered in geometrical terms, the center of a circle or the midpoint of a line is the relative standard against which to measure the extremes. However, when the center itself is extreme and extremist, as in present-day Israel, such geometrical logic no longer works. More specifically, the exception is no longer an outlier in relation to the general rule; rather, the general rule itself is exceptional and deranged.”

      – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2015/07/extremism-center-israel#comment-151084

      For such an erudite academic, Dr. Marder , You write so brilliantly that even I, humble pedestrian that I am, can comprehend and truly appreciate !
      Please come back over and over again to MondoWeiss !!

    • bintbiba
      bintbiba
      August 1, 2015, 4:18 am

      Just,

      What an excellent reply to Michael Marder’s Superb article. Thank you.

      I googled Torat HaMelech ….. very interesting. And worrying !

      Exceptionalism …. the mental disease of the 2 centuries we overlap.

      • ramzijaber
        ramzijaber
        August 1, 2015, 9:14 am

        +1 bintbiba.

      • just
        just
        August 1, 2015, 10:08 am

        Thank you, bintbiba and Ramzi. Means a lot ;)

    • ramzijaber
      ramzijaber
      August 1, 2015, 9:13 am

      just, just purely superb!

  3. Pixel
    Pixel
    August 1, 2015, 1:38 am

    “Both crimes were explicitly condemned by the Israeli Prime-Minister, Benyamin Netanyahu, who [with his fingers crossed behind his back] even expressed his ‘shock and horror’ at the events.”

  4. Citizen
    Citizen
    August 1, 2015, 1:46 am

    Good article. I wish somebody in our congress would read it aloud, captured live on CSPAN3.

  5. ivri
    ivri
    August 1, 2015, 2:52 am

    Such far-reaching conclusions from of two relatively minor events? I understand that the analysis here tries to take a long-term perspective but still anchoring that to these two events, as a kind of the “ultimate proofs” casts doubts on the ingenuity of it all.
    It clearly transpires that the writer is yet another subscriber to thoroughly anti-Israel attitudes in some quarters in Europe, which by that continue a historical tradition where somehow the Jews are always at fault. Be it in religious terms (brought to an extreme 5 centuries ago in the country where the writer now lives), in national loyalty terms (“dual loyalty”, Dreyfus), power ambitions (“the elders of Zion), financial greed (Shylock), morality (the blood libel), morality (the blood libel) or as an ethnic group at large (Nazism) and now, yet again, as a sovereign nation.
    This time around however, with Europe past its world dominance and influence this deep ingrained attitude seems more pathological than ever – a “last try” of the same, which only serves to expose the nihilistic hollowness of its historical whole.

    • Mooser
      Mooser
      August 1, 2015, 12:29 pm

      “Blah, blah, blah…./…blah

      “Irvi” you are so right! Those settlers weren’t murdering a baby, they were striking back at the very might of Nazi Germany at the height of its powers! Sending France to the dry-cleaners over Dreyfuss, and giving the blood libel a hot-shot right in the main vein.
      What courage they showed, to strike against odds like that!

    • talknic
      talknic
      August 4, 2015, 1:39 am

      @ ivri “Such far-reaching conclusions from of two relatively minor events?”

      Two of many …. and minor to you no doubt.

      “It clearly transpires that the writer is yet another subscriber to thoroughly anti-Israel attitudes in some quarters in Europe, which by that continue a historical tradition where somehow the Jews are always at fault”

      When Jews ARE at fault we should be silent? Does the same apply to Germany and the Nazis?

      “Be it in religious terms (brought to an extreme 5 centuries ago in the country where the writer now lives), in national loyalty terms (“dual loyalty”, Dreyfus), power ambitions (“the elders of Zion), financial greed (Shylock), morality (the blood libel), morality (the blood libel) or as an ethnic group at large (Nazism) and now, yet again, as a sovereign nation.”

      Didn’t happen decades ago, it happened this last week and it was perpetuated by Israelis illegally in non-Israeli territory.

      “This time around however, with Europe past its world dominance”

      “Europe….world dominance”? Germany was one country in Europe ..

      Did you have something to say?

  6. bryan
    bryan
    August 1, 2015, 4:22 am

    Far too cosy a view, Michael, in my humble opinion.

    Certainly Israeli political extremism is a problem, Israeli military aggression is a problem, settler fanaticism is a problem, the occupation is a problem, but THE problem is much wider than that. Is Israel alone the source of incitement and extremism, or are we seeing in this Presidential electoral cycle the most extreme group of candidates ever assembled, who on a daily basis are inciting against Hispanic immigrants, Moslems, Arabs, and an Iranian government that is desperately seeking to normalise its relations with the West? Is Israel the only state that is attempting to undermine the principles of international humanitarian law? Is Israel the only presumed democracy that fails to apply the rule of law consistently to all its citizens? Is Israel the only state that uses drones to indiscriminately attack local populations? Is Israel the only state that grants impunity to its increasingly militarised security forces when they kill innocent or unarmed civilians?

    The occupation is funded and abetted by American Zionists (both Christian and Jewish), supported by American tax-dollars and cutting edge weaponry, protected by American diplomats (plus others in Canada, Australia and Western Europe), and the discourse regarding the situation is consistently distorted by the international mass-media. To focus as much as you have done on the internal dysfunctionality of Israeli politics and civil society is, surely, to distort THE problem.

    • David Doppler
      David Doppler
      August 1, 2015, 6:32 pm

      Well, bryan, the US is definitely aiding and abetting the fearful Israeli right-wing hysteria, and we the citizens of the US bear responsibility for what we do. That is OUR main problem, and it is time to fix that. But Israel’s increasingly right-wing culture has a problem that MIchael and many others have described for us, and the US problem is in aiding and abetting Israel’s problem.

      I think Obama should make a speech about the 18 month baby burned to death as a price tag for opposition to the Settlement expansion, as a price tag for existing as a Palestinian in Judea and Sumaria. tie it to the many such price tag attacks, the total lack of enforcement against these racist terrorists and vandals, tie it to the Occupation, tie it to Netanyahu’s Apocalyptic world view, tie it to the Neocon world view, and make a case that Palestinian lives matter, make a case that a future that denies Palestinian human rights is one that the US can no longer enable, make a case that the Israeli people need to halt their race to the right, or find themselves all alone in a hostile world largely of their own making. Netanyahu has been trying to topple Obama for years now, and it’s time Obama toppled him. These little jabs that he keeps popping, instead of the knock-out punch, are part of the reason that little baby is dead. Her blood and horrific death are on all our hands.

  7. RobertHenryEller
    RobertHenryEller
    August 1, 2015, 4:24 am

    Netanyahu is no surprise. He is a lifelong racist, raised by a lifelong racist. He does not consider Palestinians, Arabs, Muslims, even human. This is documented, in his own words. I don’t think Netanyahu thinks even President Obama is human. Not even all Jews are human to Netanyahu. Only completely committed Zionist Jews are human to Netanyahu.

    But of course, Netanyahu is only a Zionist. Netanyahu is not even a real Jew. Real Jews obey all of the Ten Commandments, including those commanding Jews not to lie, not to steal, not to murder. Real Jews practice the teachings of Rabbi Hillel. Netanyahu is therefore not a real Jew. But then, very few Israelis these days are real Jews either.

  8. Bornajoo
    Bornajoo
    August 1, 2015, 5:17 am

    “For such an erudite academic, Dr. Marder , You write so brilliantly that even I, humble pedestrian that I am, can comprehend and truly appreciate ! Please come back over and over again to MondoWeiss !!”

    +1 Bintbiba! Ditto

    Many thanks Michael Marder. Great article and hope to hear more from you

  9. Laurent Weppe
    Laurent Weppe
    August 1, 2015, 7:33 am

    Both crimes were explicitly condemned by the Israeli Prime-Minister, Benyamin Netanyahu, who even expressed his “shock and horror” at the events

    Glad to learn Netanyahu knows the classics

  10. ramzijaber
    ramzijaber
    August 1, 2015, 9:46 am

    zionists are sowing what they seeded.That’s the bottom line. No magic to it. No deep psychoanalysis required.

    For 120 years, and in exponentially increasing viciousness towards the Palestinian people and callousness towards Palestinian human and civil rights, zionists have been calling us and talking about us this way:

    – they are cockroaches, monkeys, animals, terrorists, thieves, murderers, beasts, crocodiles, grasshoppers, ignorant and uneducated, animals that can’t even form a line at a bus stop, subhuman, fake people, they don’t exist

    – they don’t belong on the land of israel, they took our land, God gave this land to us not them, we’re good they are evil, Palestinians must go, they don’t belong on our continent, expel them, transfer them to Jordan or any one of the many other Arab countries, intimidate and terrorize them, destroy their trees, lands, and farms, drive them out, we must ensure they never return

    – jail them in their own homes, arrest them without cause, humiliate them at every turn, strip them from all their rights, from their human dignity, from their ability to earn a respectful living to take care of their families

    – take away their rights to come back to their homes if they stay out of Palestine for a few months, and if they have a permit to leave and come back, make sure that permit expires after 1 or 2 years so they will never be able to come back

    – harass anyone coming to visit them, make their life hell so they never come back, make their trades with others complicated if not impossible, surround them with armed colonies, put the army at the service of the colonialists so they can do whatever they want, tell your zionists they are the chosen people and have every right to every inch of judea and samaria

    So back to sowing what you seeded, maybe these words were “rhetoric” when they were spoken since the racist zionist generation that spoke them knew better and knew they were hasbara.

    BUT, put yourself in the shoes of the next zionist generation, a generation that was born in Palestine and that grew up hearing this hateful racist zionist “rhetoric”.

    WHY, then, would anyone be surprised that attacks on Douma and PRIDE took place? WHY? That is the only natural trajectory and projected outcome of such hate speech and incitement that has been going on for 120 years. This new generation of racist zionists is DOING EXACTLY what they heard their so-called leaders spew out as hate and incitement.

    Colonizing another people CORRUPTS the soul of the occupier.

    So brace for more such crimes. The volcano will soon explode. And after the dust settles, a 1S1P1V will emerge.

    • just
      just
      August 1, 2015, 10:02 am

      “This new generation of racist zionists is DOING EXACTLY what they heard their so-called leaders spew out as hate and incitement.”

      Check out this poll that zaid shared yesterday, Ramzi:

      “Jewish Israeli teens lean right, many support ‘price tag’
      Only 9% of adolescents consider themselves left-wing; 45% say they wouldn’t study in a class with Arabs”

      more @ http://www.timesofisrael.com/jewish-israeli-teens-lean-right-many-support-price-tag/

      • ramzijaber
        ramzijaber
        August 1, 2015, 10:28 am

        just, thanks for this. Many things jumped at me from that sobering poll.

        probably the most fundamental is the totally wrong expectation and deceiving moniker that the zionist entity is “democratic and jewish”. This is juts impossible. I am baffled as to how so many supposedly smart people believe that or say it. I asked this question to many people: explain to me what does “democratic and jewish” really mean and how would it work in practice, what gives if there is a conflict? As expected, no convincing or logical answer from anyone or any forum except “it works, look at israel”. What an answer!!!

        What is truly amazing to me is that “democratic and jewish” is totally at odds with one of the most fundamental tenets of the US constitution: the “separation of church and state”. Yet American presidents and politicians keep saying it as if it’s a truth, a fact, a reality.

        Truly delusional.

      • just
        just
        August 1, 2015, 10:50 am

        “What is truly amazing to me is that “democratic and jewish” is totally at odds with one of the most fundamental tenets of the US constitution: the “separation of church and state”. Yet American presidents and politicians keep saying it as if it’s a truth, a fact, a reality.”

        Bingo, Ramzi!!!

  11. just
    just
    August 1, 2015, 10:17 am

    This morning, in Haaretz:

    “Charges were filed on Thursday against Moshe Orbach, a right-wing extremist. Orbach is suspected of composing  a document that details methods for committing “Price Tag” attacks. Although this term has become short-hand for hate crimes in Israel, Jewish extremists originally used it to describe vandalism and violence that targeted Israelis as well as Palestinians and was aimed at preventing or avenging evacuations of West Bank settlers.
    Orbach devotes an entire chapter to torching houses, which he ranks as the most violent option for a “price tag” attack. 

    “Sometimes we’re fed up with only destroying property and we want to deliver a blow that will clarify to the accursed that if we could we would…. So we simply want to torch a house and its inhabitants” writes Orbach. He explains that “this is an attempt to murder, considered much more gravely by the Zionists.” He says that this is work for professionals “with experience” (written with spelling mistakes in Hebrew). He recommends using a bottle filled with a gasoline-soaked rag (a firebomb), as was the case early Friday morning. He recommends placing burning tires outside the front door, to prevent anyone from escaping.

    The assessment is that Friday morning’s arson in the village of Douma was carried out by a group of people who knew what they were doing. The building selected had only one storey; it wasn’t a multi-storied one in which people usually sleep on the upper floors. The house was on the outskirts of the village, with other houses nearby. The bottle thrown into the house immediately ignited the bedroom, killing 18-month-old Ali Saad Daobasa and severely wounding his 4-year-old brother and parents.” 

    read more: http://www.haaretz.com/beta/.premium-1.668941

    “Charges were filed”… now what?

  12. Vera Gottlieb
    Vera Gottlieb
    August 1, 2015, 10:37 am

    Certainly NOT condoning the settlers’ actions, but look at the example they have in Netanyahu…kill, kill and more kill. As President Rivlin stated back in October: israel is a sick nation in need of treatment. And then some…The israelis themselves are going to drive themselves into the sea – not Palestinians/Arabs.

    • Kay24
      Kay24
      August 1, 2015, 3:04 pm

      Good point. Netanyahu’s feigned outrage is obvious. He set the tone in that country. He called for revenge when the three Israeli kids were killed, and his troops showed these illegal settlers how. He has unleashed an ugly monster.
      His words can now be applied to his people too, after this savage attack on an innocent family, who now suffer.

      “The Israeli leader lamented the killings of the three “gifted, pure, honest and decent teens,” bloodshed that he said shows “a broad moral gulf (that) separates us from our enemies.”

      “They sanctify death, we sanctify life,” Netanyahu said, comparing the teens to those who killed them. “They sanctify cruelty, and we mercy and compassion. That is the secret of our strength.”
      CNN article

      Yeah? From the number of killings of innocent Palestinians including this baby, it is your people who sanctify death and cruelty Bibi, your people lack mercy and compassion. You took over 2000 lives in “revenge”. The Palestinians are entitled to act the same way towards your people too. After all Israelis are not the only ones entitled to “defend” themselves, nor are they only entitled to call for avenging the death of their kids.
      Your words of condemnation are now hollow.

  13. amigo
    amigo
    August 1, 2015, 4:57 pm

    One only has to look at his eyes to see the hatred oozing out.

    Vile man.I can only see hell in his future.If they will allow him in.

    • just
      just
      August 1, 2015, 5:06 pm

      Agreed, amigo.

      Chemi Shalev:

      “Like the Newtown massacre, the Palestinian baby’s murder won’t change a thing

      … The burning of 18-month-old Ali Saad Dawabsheh in the West Bank village of Douma is completely different, of course, but it is destined to go through a similar process of much ado about nothing. While there is no reason to doubt the genuine expressions of shock and horror voiced by right wing and settler leaders, there is also no expectation that they might recognize any connection between the horror inflicted on the Dawabsheh family and the continued occupation, hatred of Arabs and sabotage of the rule of law that many of them have promoted for decades. And anyone who says so is nothing more than a defaming demonizing demagogue.

      Just as the champions of unencumbered gun sales in America refuse to come to terms with the United States being the world’s unchallenged leader in mass shootings and gun-related homicides, so settler and right-wing leaders refuse to recognize the unassailable fact that all Jewish terrorists, bar none, come from their ranks. They prefer to devote their energies to inflating the damage done by a handful of fringe leftists while turning a blind eye to the “wild weeds” that have taken control of their own back yards. And in Israel, mind you, we don’t have a president who will confront this right wing, but a prime minister who is one of their own.

      … The Douma arson won’t be remembered as a turning point for Israel’s image in the U.S. either. The media reported on it, but not in it its main headlines: the stabbing of six participants in the Jerusalem Gay Pride march drew far more attention. Both events, however, together with last year’s war in Gaza, the confrontation with Obama over Iran and other, similar incidents in recent years, are cementing the branding of Israel as an extremist, religious and slightly disturbed country.”

      http://www.haaretz.com/blogs/west-of-eden/.premium-1.669011

      More than “slightly disturbed”, Mr. Shalev. A whole lot more.

  14. just
    just
    August 1, 2015, 8:18 pm

    This is ‘interesting’:

    “IDF fears West Bank escalation in wake of arson that killed Palestinian baby

    Defense Minister Moshe Ya’alon allows for administrative detention of right-wing activists suspected of involvement in terror attacks against Palestinians.

    … In response to the attack, which the IDF labeled “Jewish terror” and led to worldwide condemnation, Defense Minister Moshe Ya’alon told the Shin Bet security service he will support the administrative detention of right-wing activists suspected of involvement in terror attacks against Palestinians, where there isn’t yet enough evidence for indictments.

    Ya’alon routinely approves orders to expel extremist settlers suspected of violence from the West Bank, but believes that the most recent terror attack warrants harsher measures. …

    … A senior defense official told Haaretz he wouldn’t be surprised if there was a connection between the demolition of two illegal structures in Beit El last Wednesday and the fatal attack in Duma. The official accused government ministers of “distributing false propaganda” regarding the legal circumstances surrounding the IDF’s demolition of the so-called Dreinoff buildings at the settlement.

    “The settler media outlets have turned these two empty buildings into the Temple Mount,” added the official.”

    read more: http://www.haaretz.com/beta/1.669043?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

    The Temple Mount? Whoa. And so many of the ‘leaders’ decried the demolition with threats upon threats. Put them on ‘trial’, too.

    Where are the squatter terrorists who did this?

  15. just
    just
    August 1, 2015, 8:30 pm

    “As of now there are no clues that would lead to the perpetrators. The police and Shin Bet hope to rely on collaboration, even with elements in extreme right-wing circles. However, even among those who don’t support such acts there is still a code of silence that stops them cooperating with the authorities, which makes it difficult to collect information even from people who aren’t extremists. It is possible, however, that shock over the murder of a baby will lead to the authorities obtaining valuable information.”
    read more: http://www.haaretz.com/beta/.premium-1.668941

    Illegal Squatter Omertà. Just as I expected.

    • just
      just
      August 1, 2015, 10:04 pm

      “Two rockets were fired from the Gaza Strip toward Israel on Saturday night. According to Israel Defense Forces officials, the two projectiles evidently exploded near northern Gaza border. One exploded within Israeli territory. No casualties were immediately reported.”

      read more: http://www.haaretz.com/beta/1.669052?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

      • talknic
        talknic
        August 4, 2015, 1:42 am

        It’s an Armistice Demarcation Line, not Gaza’s Northern border.

  16. just
    just
    August 2, 2015, 5:19 am

    Supreme irony:

    “Two days after an arson attack attributed to right-wing extremists killed a Palestinian baby in the West Bank, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told cabinet ministers that Israel is different from its neighbors in the fact that it condemns murderers in its midst rather than celebrating them.

    “What distinguishes us from our neighbors is that we denounce and condemn murderers in our midst and pursue them until the end, while they name public squares after child murderers,” Netanyahu said at the weekly meeting in Jerusalem.”
    read more: http://www.haaretz.com/beta/.premium-1.669074

    • Bornajoo
      Bornajoo
      August 2, 2015, 5:41 am

      Thanks for the article Just. The hypocrisy of this man and this regime hits a new high. They all make me puke

      This is from Gideon Levy today

      By Gideon Levy
      Published 04:43 02.08.15
      Israelis stab gay people and burn children. There isn’t a shred of slander, the slightest degree of exaggeration, in this dry description. True, these are the actions of a few. True, too, that their numbers are increasing. It’s true that all of them – all the murderers, everyone who torches, who stabs, who uproots trees – are from the same political camp. But the opposing camp also shares the blame.

      All those who thought that it would possible to sustain islands of liberalism in the sea of Israeli fascism were shown up this weekend, once and for all. It’s simply not possible to cheer for the brigade commander who shoots a teenager, and then be shocked by the settlers who set a family on fire; to support gay rights, and hold a founding conference in Ariel; to be enlightened, and then pander to the right and seek to partner with it. Evil knows no bounds; it begins in one place and quickly spreads in every direction.

      The first breeding ground of those who torched the Dawabsheh family was the Israel Defense Forces, even if the offenders didn’t serve in it. When the killing of 500 children in the Gaza Strip is legitimate, and doesn’t even compel a debate, a moral reckoning, then what’s so terrible about setting a house on fire, together with its inhabitants? After all, what’s the difference between lobbing a fire bomb and dropping a bomb? In terms of the intention, or the intent, there is no difference.

      When the shooting of Palestinians becomes an almost daily occurrence – two more have already been killed since the family was burned: one in the West Bank, another on the border of the Gaza Strip – who are we to complain about the fire throwers in Duma? When the lives of Palestinians are officially the army’s for the taking, their blood cheap in the eyes of Israeli society, then settler militias are also permitted to kill them. When the IDF’s ethic in the Gaza Strip is that it is permitted to do anything in order to save one soldier, who are we to complain about right-wingers like Baruch Marzel, who told me this weekend it was permissible to kill thousands of Palestinians in order to protect a single hair from the head of a Jew. Such is the atmosphere, such is the result. Original responsibility for it goes to the IDF.

      No less to blame, of course, are the governments and politicians who vie with each other over who can suck up the most to the settlers. Whoever gives them 300 new homes in exchange for their violence at the flagship settlement of Beit El is telling them not only that violence is permissible, but also that it pays. It is already hard to draw the line between throwing bags of urine at police officers and fire bombs into people’s homes.

      Also to blame, of course, are the law enforcement authorities, starting with the Judea and Samaria District Police – the most ridiculous and scandalous of all police districts, and not by chance. Nine Palestinian homes were torched in the past three years, according to B’Tselem. How many people have been prosecuted? None. So what happened in Duma on Friday? The fire was simply better, in the eyes of the arsonists and their minions.

      Their minions also include the silent, the forgiving and all those who think the evil will remain forever within the confines of the West Bank. Their minions also include the Israelis who are convinced that the People of Israel is the chosen people, and as a result is permitted to do anything – including torching the homes of non-Jews, with their inhabitants inside.

      So, too, many of those who were shocked by the act, including figures who have visited the victims in Sheba Medical Center, outside Tel Aviv – the president, the prime minister, the opposition leader and their aides – imbibed the racist, infuriating “You have chosen us from all the peoples” with their mothers’ milk.

      At the end of a terrible day, it is this that leads to the burning of families whom God did not choose. No principle in Israeli society is more destructive, or more dangerous, than this principle. Nor, unfortunately, more common. If you were to examine closely what is concealed beneath the skin of most Israelis, you would find: the chosen people. When that is a fundamental principle, the next torching is only a matter of time.

      Their minions are everywhere, and most of them are now tsk-tsking and expressing dismay at what happened. But what occurred couldn’t have not happened; what happened was dictated by the needs of reality, the reality of Israel and its value system. What happened will happen again, and no one will be spared. We all torched the Dawabsheh family.

      • just
        just
        August 2, 2015, 6:01 am

        Thanks, Bornajoo.

        I read that last night. He’s right, of course, and it might be the single most important and raw article of his that I’ve read in a long time.

        This time the murderers didn’t wear uniforms, and still the murderers are protected by a “code of silence”. This is Israel~ same as it began. It’s one of the reasons why I am revulsed by the unquestioned support that governments heap upon it.

        (The only missing element is for someone to claim that this was in some way “self- defense”)

      • bintbiba
        bintbiba
        August 2, 2015, 7:44 am

        “Just’ , Bornajoo,

        Thank you both for your great comments.

        I finally have Haaretz online access as well !

        Gideon Levy is a treasure ……nobility of the spirit and fearlessness are so rare these days in the world of Journalism.

      • just
        just
        August 2, 2015, 7:50 am

        ;-)

        You’re kind, bintbiba.

    • Shmuel
      Shmuel
      August 2, 2015, 6:18 am

      “What distinguishes us from our neighbors is that we denounce and condemn murderers in our midst and pursue them until the end, while they name public squares after child murderers,” Netanyahu said at the weekly meeting in Jerusalem.”

      Ah, the old “we don’t name streets and squares after terrorists and murders” lie. David Raziel, Meir Feinstein, Olei Hagardom, Lehi — just to name a few undisputed terrorists and terrorist gangs, without even getting into questions of “narrative”.

      we denounce and condemn murderers in our midst and pursue them until the end

      Although we usually give them presidential pardons — assuming they ever get appropriate sentences in the first place (see the “Jewish Underground”) — and treat them (inevitably unrepentant) as legitimate participants in public life — as civil servants, journalists, editors, authors, politicians, lobbyists and negotiators.

      • wondering jew
        wondering jew
        August 2, 2015, 6:55 am

        Shmuel- I too recoiled when I heard Netanyahu’s words. (Was it merely a quote that caused the recoil or did I actually hear the voice that augmented the recoil? i think just the quote and the voice that i’ve learned to hate was merely imagined.)

        I don’t know the history of the Irgun fighters that you named. I know there were certainly attacks on Arab populations (Palestinian civilians) undertaken by the Irgun, but you know better than I which of those individuals you named were convicted for attacks on civilians and how many children died in those attacks. Most of those killed hanged by the Brits were killed for antiBritish activity rather than attacks on civilians. If my statistics are wrong, let me know.

      • justicewillprevail
        justicewillprevail
        August 2, 2015, 7:16 am

        Ahem, Ben-Gurion Airport, FFS.

        “We will expel the Arabs and take their places… with the forces at our disposal.” The squatters are only following in his footsteps.

      • Shmuel
        Shmuel
        August 2, 2015, 7:17 am

        Yonah,

        The ones I mentioned attacked civilians. It is indicative of the education that you and I were given that you weren’t aware of that. The groups and cells heroically referred to (and honoured) in Israel as the “undergrounds”, were responsible for numerous attacks on innocent Arab civilians. David Raziel (Etzel/Irgun), for example, was a particularly nasty piece of work (with a good deal of “blood on his hands”, as the Israeli expression goes). All of that got him a Moshav (Ramat Raziel — currently a place of pilgrimage for Israeli gourmands) and many streets named after him, and even a postage stamp issued in his honour.

      • Bornajoo
        Bornajoo
        August 2, 2015, 8:24 am

        “Yonah,

        The ones I mentioned attacked civilians. It is indicative of the education that you and I were given that you didn’t know that. The groups and cells heroically referred to (and honoured) in Israel as the “undergrounds”, were responsible for numerous attacks on innocent Arab civilians. David Raziel (Irgun) was a particularly nasty piece of work (with a good deal of “blood on his hands”, as the Israeli expression goes). All of that got him a Moshav (Ramat Raziel — currently a place of pilgrimage for Israeli gourmands) and many streets named after him, and even a postage stamp issued in his honour.” (Shmuel)

        I’d like to follow Just in thanking you Shmuel. I learn a lot from your comments as I did with this one. I hope that Yonah also learned something

      • just
        just
        August 2, 2015, 7:23 am

        Thank you, Shmuel.

        It’s so important to know & remember yesterday in order to try to grasp today and hope for tomorrow.

      • Kay24
        Kay24
        August 2, 2015, 8:01 am

        He is a filthy liar. He is banking on the ignorance of those in the world, who are totally unaware of the truth.

      • jon s
        jon s
        August 2, 2015, 9:54 am

        Shmuel, Right here in my neighborhood in Beersheva are streets named Etzel, Shlomo Ben Yosef, Dov Grunner, Meir Feinstein, Eliyahu Hakim, Eliyahu Bet-Zouri…and more.

      • amigo
        amigo
        August 2, 2015, 10:16 am

        “I don’t know the history of the Irgun fighters that you named ” Yonah

        Here is a link to educate you on Lehi Members who committed dozens of terrorist acts when they were not busy siding up to the Nazis and offering to fight with them against the British because they saw the Nazis as lesser enemies.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lehi_%28group%29

        Israel gave an amnesty to these thugs and even instituted a Ribbon in their honour named the “Lehi Ribbon of Honour” .

        Yep , Israel honours it,s terrorists and makes PM,s of them.Shamir was the leader of the Lehi gang.

        Yonah , you really ought to broaden you knowledge of this subject matter.It will help to heal you and save you embarrassment.

        Knowledge is power.Truth is even more powerful.

      • just
        just
        August 2, 2015, 11:02 am

        So, let’s recap:

        Israel names its streets and other places after terrorists.

        Netanyahu is a liar~ again.

        The good news is that the discussion is here, and some previously hidden and ‘sacred’ truths are revealed.

        “It is indicative of the education that you and I were given that you weren’t aware of that.”

        That statement is massively important, Shmuel!!!

        Now, if that’s the education that you were ‘given’, no wonder that it is so difficult and frustrating to pierce through to the truth! It’s not the first time that the system and content of education has been brought up, and it won’t be the last.

        Rivlin said (from below) :

        “To put out the flames, we must be firm and decisive, thorough and clear,” he concluded, urging action “through the education system and law enforcement.”

        And Naftali Bennett is Minister of Education…

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        August 2, 2015, 12:50 pm

        “Shmuel, Right here in my neighborhood in Beersheva are streets named Etzel, Shlomo Ben Yosef, Dov Grunner, Meir Feinstein, Eliyahu Hakim, Eliyahu Bet-Zouri…and more.”

        But that’s all right, “Jon s” since you always make sure to tell only the truth to your students!

        BTW, “Jons” are you supposed to be an example of the “Israeli center”?

  17. just
    just
    August 2, 2015, 7:46 am

    “Rivlin Turns to Israel Police Over Death Threats

    Angry Facebook users threaten Israeli president over post expressing shame for Duma arson attack.

    President Reuven Rivlin has turned to the Israel Police over a number of death threats against him on his Facebook page Sunday, after he wrote a post condemning the arson attack on a Palestinian family in the village of Duma.

    “I visited the Dawabash family in the hospital on Friday,” he stated, in the post on Friday. “I was ashamed. I was horrified by the power of hatred.”

    “I was ashamed that in my country, which endured the murders of the Fogel family, Adele Biton, Eyal, Gilad, and Naftali, and Mohammed Abu-Khdeir, there are others who do not hesitate to set a house on fire and burn a baby alive, to increase hatred and terror,” he continued. “We must ask: what public atmosphere is this that allows extremism and extremists? […] Why is it that weeds threaten the safety of the entire flower bed?”

    “To put out the flames, we must be firm and decisive, thorough and clear,” he concluded, urging action “through the education system and law enforcement.”

    Several took ire with Rivlin’s post, with retorts ranging from simple name-calling to violence.

    “I pray that there will rise another Yigal Amir, Shlita, who will clean the state from you and from Arabs – I wish you terrible diseases and every evil,” one poster threatened, referring to the man who shot and killed Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin in 1995.

    Other posters were less malignant in their criticism, but did note that they do not see Rivlin as representing them, and – in one case – had removed his photo from their home and advised their children not to emulate the President. …”

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/198920#.Vb4CVPlViko

    (the comments aren’t much better…)

    • just
      just
      August 2, 2015, 8:13 am

      Apparently Shin Bet can’t be bothered to deal with this~ they told Rivlin to go to the police, according to Haaretz headline.

      “Threats against Rivlin wish him fate similar to Sharon, Rabin
      Right-wingers fume at president’s lament that attackers of Palestinian Dawabsha family ‘came from my own people’

      Rivlin has made restoring relations between different segments of Israeli society a key issue of his presidency and has been criticized several times in the past by right-wing constituents. The conciliatory tone of the president, who was a Knesset member of the right-wing Likud for decades, has often earned him the label of “traitor,” “leftist” and “bleeding heart” on the far-right.

      But comments on his most recent post regarding the death of Dawabsha escalated to genuine threats.

      Among posts praising the president for his humanism, including some in Arabic asking him to leverage the “great respect” he enjoys in Arab Israeli society to help “end the occupation,” some posters said he will “come to an end worse than Ariel Sharon,” who became comatose in 2006 after suffering a stroke while serving as prime minister.

      “You bloody loser, your end will be worse than Ariel Sharon’s, you will see. I pray that another ‘Yigal Amir’ will rise to cleanse you and the Arabs from our Jewish country, and so I wish you ill health and any other suffering,” one poster wrote.

      Yigal Amir assassinated prime minister Yitzhak Rabin in 1995.

      “You sold your soul to the devil,” another message read, adding: “my children saw me taking your picture off the wall [of my house] and asked why. I politely explained that you resigned and are no longer part of the Jewish people. You signal a green light to hurting the Jewish people. You have been disqualified!” …

      http://www.timesofisrael.com/threats-against-rivlin-wish-him-fate-similar-to-sharon-rabin/

      Kay24 @ 8:01~ the numbers of the truly ignorant are shrinking, while the numbers of the willfully ignorant may swell.

    • jon s
      jon s
      August 2, 2015, 11:01 am

      amigo, It’s worth noting that Lehi primarily fought the British (as can be seen in the link that you provided) and carried out very few operations against Palestinians.
      Incidentally, Yitzhak Shamir adopted the nom-de-guerre “Michael “, in honor of Irish leader Michael Collins.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        August 2, 2015, 11:37 am

        “amigo, It’s worth noting that Lehi primarily fought the British”

        So stabbing the generous British, who opened Palestine to Jewish immigration in the back is somehow better than attacking Palestinians? Okay.

      • amigo
        amigo
        August 2, 2015, 12:33 pm

        “Incidentally, Yitzhak Shamir adopted the nom-de-guerre “Michael “, in honor of Irish leader Michael Collins. ” Yonah

        Incidentally , Michael Collins did not throw bombs into civilian markets.He and his men shot British soldiers and spies and the odd traitor .I doubt he would have been honoured by Shamir,s self agrandisement.

        It is also worth noting (as can be seen by the link that I provided) that Lehi was considered a “Terrorist group ” by Israel,s leaders .Takes one to know one , I guess.

        Lehi was involved in the Deir Yassin massacre in which 240 civilians were murdered and I bet there are lots more killings of civilians on record.

        I really do not get your point.Israel was founded in terrorism and continues that path to this day.

      • amigo
        amigo
        August 2, 2015, 2:53 pm

        @Amigo“Incidentally, Yitzhak Shamir adopted the nom-de-guerre “Michael “, in honor of Irish leader Michael Collins. ” Yonah

        Apologies to Yonah.That post should have been addressed to Jon S.

      • justicewillprevail
        justicewillprevail
        August 2, 2015, 2:55 pm

        What a gross insult that is to the Irish Jon s, as I am sure you will agree.

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus
        August 2, 2015, 2:56 pm

        How nice!
        John S –a history teacher, no less– acknowledges that

        Lehi primarily fought the British

        i.e., as many of us have always repeated, it was nothing but a German ally!

      • amigo
        amigo
        August 2, 2015, 3:06 pm

        “So stabbing the generous British, who opened Palestine to Jewish immigration in the back is somehow better than attacking Palestinians? Okay. ” Mooser

        Don,t be too harsh.Collins stabbed the generous British in the back , who opened up the northern part of Ireland to Scottish immigration.

  18. Kay24
    Kay24
    August 2, 2015, 8:03 am

    This is from a few years ago, but it gives a good depiction of what Israel has been accused of, and condemned for. The truth hurts sometimes even cartoons:

    http://www.democraticunderground.com/113429546

  19. wondering jew
    wondering jew
    August 2, 2015, 9:47 am

    Certainly violence breeds violence and the stabbing on Thursday of the gay parade in Jerusalem might have provided an added push towards the violence of those who burned and killed in Duma. Certainly the incompetence of the police in dealing with the gay parade attacker recalls the incompetent or unserious attittude of the police in regards to price tag violence. Nonetheless the future shock of modernism juxtaposed to the traditions of a very large chunk of Jerusalem’s citizens is a far more natural/understandable phenomenon than the war going on in the West Bank. New York City had its stonewall 45 years ago and only now has instituted gay marriages, in a city known for its libertine ways. Jerusalem is supposed to adjust to the future shock of diversity and tolerance overnight. there is a distinct culture clash. keep an eye on the meshugenes, for sure.

    The west bank is occupied territory (although Israel denies it and tries to call it disputed territory) and the violence that occurs there is 99% the fault of the occupying authorities for allowing civilians to move there and turning that occupation into a settlement occupation. the remedies to the situation today involve imprisoning the rabbis who inspire this murder with their writings and to turn hundreds of thousands of Jewish Israelis living on both sides of the green line into a terrorist population (because of their terrorist philosophies) by definition. Netanyahu with Bennett inside his government will never do anything like that.

    • John O
      John O
      August 2, 2015, 12:17 pm

      “remedies to the situation today involve imprisoning the rabbis who inspire this murder with their writings and to turn hundreds of thousands of Jewish Israelis living on both sides of the green line into a terrorist population (because of their terrorist philosophies) by definition. Netanyahu with Bennett inside his government will never do anything like that.”

      Looks like they just did: “Israel to detain Jewish terror suspects without trial”

      http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/02/israel-to-detain-west-bank-arson-attackers-without-trial

      This will end in civil war.

      • annie
        annie
        August 2, 2015, 1:58 pm

        note how the headline does not say “Israel detains Jewish terror suspects without trial”.

        what’s taking them so long? i’m sure if they started rounding up, abducting, interrogating and torturing a bunch of ‘youths’ from the nearby settlement they could get to the bottom of this fairly quickly.

      • John O
        John O
        August 2, 2015, 2:15 pm

        @annie

        You’re right, of course.

        It remains to be seen if they will “round up the usual suspects” (why do lines from “Casablanca” always seem so appropriate here?). What is proposed is breathtakingly wrong-headed. Internment without trial was one of the British government’s biggest mistakes in Northern Ireland, and it took decades to undo. Treat extremist squatters as badly as they treat Palestinian resisters. You don’t need a crystal ball to see how that’s going to play out.

      • annie
        annie
        August 2, 2015, 2:40 pm

        they’ve over 5k palestinian administrative detainees imprisoned since the firth of the year (not sure how many of those are long timers or if there were that many at one time). there’s no way they’re going to be imprisoning that many settlers and i’m sure there are at least that many settlers in ideological alignment w/the religious national zionist movement. israel outlawed the hamas movment years ago and simply being affiliated is used for grounds to detain palestinians. they could do that to followers of the kach movement. do they? hell no.

        look at this from february of this year:

        Police seize weapons from extremist Jewish settlement in the West Bank
        i24news 4 Feb — Israeli police seized weapons and other gear from the West Bank settlement of Yitzhar on Tuesday. Yitzhar has been a flash point for violence over the years and is home to some of the so-called “hilltop youth” responsible for vandalism of Palestinian property. The Israeli news site Times of Israel reported that among other things found during the raid, police found knives, saws, flammable liquids, tear gas canisters, face masks. The police believe that the arms would have been used against Palestinians as well as Israeli security forces. Israel Radio reported that Ahiad Liebman, 17, a minor from the settlement was barred from entering the West Bank for a time period of four months. – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2015/02/israeli-extremist-settlement#sthash.9SAt9kYN.dpuf

        barred from entering the West Bank for a time period of four months? whoa — tough luck buddy! that’s about as bad as it gets.

        meanwhile it’s been 4 days since the murderous attack. i don’t want to hear what they’re allegedly going to do, i want to hear what their doing and what they’ve done.

      • just
        just
        August 2, 2015, 2:48 pm

        Noam Sheizaf, today:

        “… Still, I do not support the recent calls to use all the means available to the IDF and the Shin Bet — which are used on Palestinians every day — against right-wing Jewish extremists. This approach will only increase the number of human rights violations by the occupation. No one is planning to place a settlement under curfew or take all of its men to D.N.A. tests, and for good reason. As I wrote earlier, violence is inseparable from the colonial reality in the occupied territories — without putting an end to that reality, there is no chance to properly deal with violence. Even if things cool down temporarily, the situation will only grow worse in the long run. The only solutions are the evacuation of settlements or equal rights for all. …”

        http://972mag.com/no-way-to-defeat-jewish-terrorism-without-ending-the-occupation/109613/

        btw, there is “Illegal Squatter Omertà,” as I referenced above. Nobody’s talking.

      • just
        just
        August 2, 2015, 3:35 pm

        “meanwhile it’s been 4 days since the murderous attack. i don’t want to hear what they’re allegedly going to do, i want to hear what their doing and what they’ve done.”

        No kidding, Annie!

        Looks like it’s official:

        “JERUSALEM, Aug 2 (Reuters) – Israel’s security cabinet approved on Sunday the detention of citizens suspected of waging violence against Palestinians without trial in a crackdown aimed at capturing the perpetrators of a lethal West Bank arson attack blamed on Jewish militants. …

        …There was no claim of responsibility for the arson at Duma village, in the occupied West Bank. Graffiti in Hebrew reading “revenge” daubed at the site was consistent with past vandalism and other hate crimes by bands of young Jewish zealots targeting Arabs, Christians, peace activists or Israeli army property.

        With no arrests yet made for the arson, some Israeli commentators on Sunday questioned the resolve of security services which, when responding to Palestinian attacks, often round up suspects en masse as part of accelerated investigations.

        Such detainees are sometimes held without trial for months, a measure Israel says is required to prevent further violence in the absence of sufficient evidence to prosecute, or where going to court would risk exposing the identity of secret informants.

        Netanyahu’s security cabinet, comprised of senior ministers, decided to extend such arrests to Israelis as well “to take all steps necessary to bring those responsible to justice and prevent such attacks from occurring in the future,” a statement said.

        It said the methods approved included “the use of administrative detentions in appropriate cases,” with the approval of the state attorney general.

        The cabinet called the arson “a terror attack in every respect” adding that security officials had been ordered “to take all steps necessary to bring those responsible to justice and prevent a recurrence of such attacks in the future.”

        According to the Israeli human rights group B’Tselem, 5,442 Palestinians were in detention without trial as of June.

        The measure, which foreign critics see as a blow to due process of the law, has rarely been used against Israeli citizens.

        “To the best of my knowledge, there have been no instances of Israelis being held in administrative detention in recent years,” said B’Tselem spokeswoman Sarit Michaeli.

        Israeli officials say the Jewish zealots elude discovery by operating in small networks that are hard for informants to penetrate, avoiding electronic communications that might be monitored, and clamming up when detained for interrogation.”

        http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/israel-palestinian-arson-attack_55be5db1e4b0b23e3ce31a19?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592

        Of course with Yehuda Weinstein as AG…

        This very well might be just another hollow gesture to accompany hollow words and absent action.

      • MHughes976
        MHughes976
        August 2, 2015, 4:10 pm

        I would think that the proclaimed resort to administrative detention is mostly an admission that they will not be able to identify and convict the perpetrators by normal legal means – and we all know that the difficulty resides in the quasi-independence of the settlements and their iron code of omerta in these circumstances. How useless law is when governments give fundamental approval to people who fundamentally despise the law. So a few people, who may or may not include the real perps, will be detained for what will have to be a short time, since they will have good legal representation and good political support, and will then return gloating to their homes to the hero’s welcome that we will watch – they will see to it that television screen worldwide display the spectacle – with horror and stupefaction, however well we knew that it was coming.
        Obama will praise the sincerity and effectiveness of Israeli efforts against terrorism from all sides.

      • Kris
        Kris
        August 2, 2015, 4:59 pm

        MHughes976: “So a few people, who may or may not include the real perps, will be detained for what will have to be a short time, since they will have good legal representation and good political support, and will then return gloating to their homes to the hero’s welcome….”

        Exactly right. Meanwhile:

        BETHLEHEM (Ma’an) – Residents of the Palestinian village of Duma in the occupied West Bank are forming voluntary groups to guard against attacks by Israeli settlers, days after a deadly arson attack left an 18-month-old resident burned alive, locals said Saturday…

        Violent acts carried out by Israeli settlers often occur in the presence of Israeli military who rarely act to protect Palestinian residents and few options for their personal security remain.

        While Israeli forces will detain a Palestinian in the occupied West Bank for possessing a knife or gun, Israelis living in the same area are legally able to carry such weapons.

        Samir Dawabsha, also the general director of the Palestinian ministry of local governance in Nablus, urged Palestinians across the occupied territory to prepare plans for self-protection.

        “The Palestinian people, no matter where they live, are being targeted by the occupation and its settlers, and citizens should beware of treacherous attacks by settlers, and we will try to prevent repetition of what happened with Dawabsha family.” http://www.maannews.com/Content.aspx?id=766807

      • italian ex-pat
        italian ex-pat
        August 3, 2015, 11:13 am

        Annie

        ‘What’s taking them so long?”

        I have a strong suspicion that “they” have already been quietly wisked away and are on a plane
        on the way to . . NY? Possibly with the help of the government.

    • Mooser
      Mooser
      August 2, 2015, 5:30 pm

      “New York City had its stonewall 45 years ago and only now has instituted gay marriages, in a city known for its libertine ways”

      That (there’s more of it in Yonah’s comment) has got to be the weirdest bit of Zionist reverse-pinkwashing I have ever seen.

      Notice, Yonah is using this to excuse the extremism.

    • Mooser
      Mooser
      August 2, 2015, 6:13 pm

      “the remedies to the situation today involve imprisoning the rabbis who inspire this murder with their writings and to turn hundreds of thousands of Jewish Israelis living on both sides of the green line into a terrorist population (because of their terrorist philosophies) by definition.”

      That’s right! From now on, no more extremist settlers. Just good “normal” economic settlers. Don’t want no extremists doing extreme things like illegal settlement, they get extreme sometimes.

      And Yonah, the Rabbis could be dead, and their written works will still be inspiring people.

    • Kris
      Kris
      August 2, 2015, 7:02 pm

      @yonah: “New York City had its stonewall 45 years ago and only now has instituted gay marriages, in a city known for its libertine ways.”

      Are you saying that Tel Aviv, which is known for “its libertine ways,” would have been a safer place to hold the gay parade than Jerusalem?

  20. jon s
    jon s
    August 2, 2015, 11:04 am

    The girl injured at the gay pride event , Shira Banki, has died of her wounds.

    • just
      just
      August 2, 2015, 11:30 am

      RIP, young Shira.

      Condolences to her parents, siblings, and wider family and friends. I suppose that illegal squatter Yishai Schlissel won’t get out after 10 years this time. One hopes that Israel will provide counseling and monitoring to his associates and to his illegal squatter neighbors in illegal Modiin Ilit.

      “The attacker, Schlissel, was sentenced for 12 years in prison for the 2005 attack after his conviction on charges of attempted murder and aggravated assault. However, in 2007, following an appeal, the Supreme Court mitigated his sentence to 10 years. He was deemed sane and fit to face trial on Friday.

      After his release, Schlissel returned to his hometown, where residents said that he distributed hand-written pamphlets in which he called on “all Jews faithful to God” to risk “beatings and imprisonment” for the sake of preventing the parade.”
      read more: http://www.haaretz.com/beta/1.669161
      —————-
      “An Israeli Arab resident of Lod filed a complaint with the Israel Police on Monday morning, claiming that he had been attacked by three Jewish men at the entrance to his home.

      Amad Abu Sharah, 56, said that the three suspects attacked him early Sunday morning because he is Arab, and then fled the scene. Police launched an investigation and are determining whether or not the action was a hate crime, or prompted by some other conflict.

      Abu Sharah set out to pray at the largest mosque in Lod while wearing a white robe, and made his way home after morning prayers. He claims that at the entrance to his building in the Ramat Eshkol neighborhood, three individuals attacked him with clubs and kicked him. He reported to the police that he tried to fight back against the attackers, who left him bloody at the scene. Abu Shara’s wounds were treated at Assaf Harofeh Hospital.

      Abu Sharah claims that he is not embroiled in any conflicts with anyone, and there is no reason behind the attack other than the fact that he is Arab and Muslim.”

      read more: http://www.haaretz.com/beta/1.669095

    • echinococcus
      echinococcus
      August 2, 2015, 2:57 pm

      So what? Convict your fellow illegal invader for murder.

    • talknic
      talknic
      August 2, 2015, 9:33 pm

      jon s ” Shira Banki, has died of her wounds.”

      RIP. Alas there can be no justice for the dead, only the prevention of it ever happening again.

      One wonders just how many innocent Palestinians in Gaza have died of their wounds since the initial reports of Israel’s slaughterfests

  21. amigo
    amigo
    August 2, 2015, 11:59 am

    Check this one out.

    “One of Bennett’s allies in parliament suggested that an Israeli combat bulldozer knock down the Supreme Court.” WAPO.

    The report did not name him/her.I have to say, it might be a good idea since it has become a rubber stamp for right wing policies.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/jewish-extremists-torch-palestinian-homes-killing-toddler/2015/07/31/a4680948-2fe5-11e5-a879-213078d03dd3_story.html

  22. jon s
    jon s
    August 2, 2015, 1:34 pm

    President Rivlin is a “mensch”.

    • amigo
      amigo
      August 2, 2015, 3:16 pm

      “President Rivlin is a “mensch”. Jon S

      The hell ,you say ?.

      “Rivlin is known to be strongly opposed to the two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and has voiced support for a version of a one-state solution. He is described as a staunch supporter of Jewish settlement in the occupied West Bank.[27] On 29 April 2010, he said that he “would rather accept Palestinians as Israeli citizens than divide Israel and the West Bank in a future two-state peace solution”.[28] This position, reflecting an idea of both the radical left and radical right in Israel, is considered controversial, but has also been praised as recognising current realities in Israel and the Palestinian Territories.[29] After taking over as the President, he said Israel is not fighting the Palestinian people or Islam but is fighting murderous terrorism.[30]”

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reuven_Rivlin

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        August 2, 2015, 5:33 pm

        “President Rivlin is a “mensch”.”

        “Jon s” is one of Yonah’s “normal” settlers. As “Jon s” says:

        “In Israel there’s a rising tide of racism , xenophobia and anti-democratic tendencies, especially (though not exclusively) among the Orthodox Jews.”

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        August 4, 2015, 4:03 pm

        “President Rivlin is a “mensch”.

        “No, he’s a hypocrite.”

        For “Jon s” those two words mean exactly the same thing.

    • Shmuel
      Shmuel
      August 4, 2015, 12:40 am

      President Rivlin is a “mensch”.

      No, he’s a hypocrite. He (rightly) condemns blatant terrorist attacks against Jews and Palestinians, but not the day-to-day terrorism to which Palestinians are subjected by the occupation and its settlements (which he has supported throughout his political career). He then plays innocent:

      “We must ask: what public atmosphere is this that allows extremism and extremists? […] Why is it that weeds threaten the safety of the entire flower bed?”

      Does he really have no idea? Could it possibly have to do (among other things) with the fact that the President of Israel sought fit to praise a state-supported Jewish terrorist like Moshe Levinger – “spiritual” father of the murderers of Ali Dawabsha?

      • jon s
        jon s
        August 4, 2015, 3:56 pm

        Shmuel,
        Given President Rivlin’s background, “dafka” *–as we say- because of that background , his words and actions (strong-worded condemnation, visiting the wounded, addressing the Palestinians in Arabic) have been exceedingly courageous.
        Indeed , Rivlin seems to be living up to his reputation : decent, honest, not too bright.
        Real hypocrisy is what’s coming from Netanyahu, Bennet and the settlers.

        *Is there a good translation for “dafka”?

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        August 5, 2015, 5:36 pm

        “and the settlers.”

        Like you, “Jon s”. Aren’t you a settler?

        Must be fun, to be a freebooter and a squatter until the country gets too hot to hold you, and then it’s back to the good ol’ USA. Don’t worry, “Jon s”, you can blame it on the Orthodox.

  23. David Doppler
    David Doppler
    August 2, 2015, 7:23 pm

    See this report re demonstrations in Israel against Israeli terrorism: http://972mag.com/thousands-hit-the-streets-to-protest-racist-homophobic-attacks/109577/

    Obama’s moment awaits.

    • just
      just
      August 2, 2015, 7:52 pm

      All I am hearing from legislators and leaders is a deafening silence.

      Another missed opportunity~ the State Dept and WH statements were terribly disappointing. I guess they never heard of ‘carpe diem’.

      Wait and see, I guess. ;-(((

  24. Don
    Don
    August 2, 2015, 8:40 pm

    “Both crimes were explicitly condemned by the Israeli Prime-Minister, Benyamin Netanyahu, who even expressed his “shock and horror” at the events. Yet, both would not have been possible without the climate of hatred incited by Netanyahu’s own extreme right-wing government.”

    Got to be annoying logic to induce me to defend Israel. Actually, I am not defending Israel. But if a climate of hatred is necessary to make terrorism possible, what accounts for the terrorism Basques have engaged in for the last 45 years? Including at least one attempt to assassinate a prof at a Basque University (that should have some relevance to you, Prof Marder).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ETA_attacks#2000

    Search the word “kill” in the link above; kind of impressive how many innocent people Basque “separatists” routinely kill. Far, far more than the number of Palestinians killed by Israeli civilians.

    I am no fan of Israel’s treatment of Palestinians. It is brutal, appalling and pointless. But in my own strong opinion, the explanation this author offers is simply incorrect; and not at all productive to understanding what is happening over there (and I make no pretense of understanding it myself).

    Unless I am wrong and the author is right. In which case, given his location, I don’t think it is asking too much for an explanation of the “climate of hatred” created in Basque and Spain, without which Basque terrorism would not be possible. To borrow the authors use of mathematical metaphors, his “general solution” cannot be true in Israel, and wrong in Basque/Spain. Either 1 and 1 make 2, or they do not.

    • annie
      annie
      August 2, 2015, 9:26 pm

      kind of impressive how many innocent people Basque “separatists” routinely kill.

      don, according to your link, since ’61 ETA has killed 343 civilians and 486 security forces. but i’m not really seeing your comparison as that helpful for a number of reasons that should be self evident.

      there are many many examples of israeli forces assisting settlers in their attacks, protecting them in their attacks, and participating in those attacks (which number in the thousands).

      do you have examples of the ETA perpetrators acting with impunity, not being arrested, imprisoned or investigated, or anything like that to support the notion there’s a culture of hate against innocent civilians supported by spanish government security forces or spain’s army?

      • Don
        Don
        August 3, 2015, 10:40 am

        Not self evident at all. My point is very simple…the author states that these acts of violence could not have occurred without a “climate of hatred”. This is obviously not true. Human violence can occur any time and in any place…do you ever scan or read newspapers, Annie?

        Since it is not true…how can the concept be helpful? It is one thing to say that a “climate of hatred” exists in Israel (it might very well exist), and that this climate “contributes” to the likelihood of violence. But it is obviously self evident (to use your phrase) that violence is possible even in serene and benign environments. Happens all the time, actually. You are unaware of this?

        As for examples of Basque terrorists being treated with impunity…THAT is entirely irrelevant to the question. Can you or the author, as I originally asked…please explain the “climate of hatred” which has lead to Basque terrorism? Or is a “climate of hatred” only necessary for Jews to commit violent acts?

        Again, and finally…the author is incorrect, and in my opinion, very facile in his argument.
        It is absurdly easy to bash Israel…I do it all the time. It is something else to invest the mental time and energy to actually make a unique, and insightful contribution to the problem.

      • annie
        annie
        August 3, 2015, 12:17 pm

        do you ever scan or read newspapers, Annie?

        on occasion since it’s part of my job. here’s some evidence, a thousand articles or so. the vast majority have embeds and blockquotes: http://mondoweiss.net/author/annie

        that link only reflects the articles i’ve read that i’ve written about. i also send a lot of tips to phil. and, oddly enough, i don’t happen to write articles about every circumstance i read about. but what about you don, any evidence you’ve ever scanned or read the news? other than your analysis, if one could call it that.

        the author states that these acts of violence could not have occurred without a “climate of hatred”. This is obviously not true. Human violence can occur any time and in any place

        nowhere did the author claim all acts of human violence stem from hatred. i’d suggest, when scanning or reading the news, to pay particular attention to the headline (for context http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/context ). the headline of this article The extremism of the center in Israel informs us right off the bat the context is — where? note the headline does not make reference to all human violence?

        let’s move on. note the first sentence

        “This Thursday was a day of terror in Israel.”

        the words “terror in israel” also informs us of context. note is doesn’t say ‘terror in the world’ or “Human violence” occurring “any time and in any place”.

        Let me give you another example. imagine 2 houses side by side. in one the father beats the wife repeatedly throughout the day and night. their son, a 12 year old boy plunges a knife into the father as he is sleeping. one could argue he was raised in a “climate of hatred” and that this act of human violence was incited by his father. in the other house the parents bring home a new baby. one day the 3 year old toddler, expressing signs of jealously, in a fit of rage slaps the baby.

        you see? both acts of human violence but only one a result of a “climate of hatred”.

        now, you come along and claim what? do you say – i stated the boy would not have plunged the knife into his father without a “climate of hatred” and this is obviously not true because the toddler who slapped his baby brother next door exhibited signs of human violence which can occur any time and in any place?

        you see, i am not arguing, nor is the author, that human violence cannot occur any time and in any place and is always as a result of a climate of hatred. in fact, THAT is entirely irrelevant to the topic (re topic — see headline, think context).

        Can you or the author, as I originally asked…please explain the “climate of hatred” which has lead to Basque terrorism? Or is a “climate of hatred” only necessary for Jews to commit violent acts?

        the author never claimed (nor addressed) the concept that committing violent acts was limited to jews. bringing up another incidence of terror is whataboutery. it’s like saying ‘but what about the violence in syria’. the author is under no obligation to address basque separatists or their violence in the context of jewish or israeli terrorism or whether there is a ‘climate of hatred’ in spain. because the author never made the argument all acts of violence were incited by a climate of hatred.

        one last note.

        the author states that these acts of violence could not have occurred without a “climate of hatred”.

        re “these”. note you did not write the author states that all acts of violence could not have occurred without a “climate of hatred”.

        if he had said that we would not be having this conversation. make sure you open that link to webster’s dictionary up there.

        ;)

      • annie
        annie
        August 3, 2015, 12:43 pm

        one more thing don, for your edification. note the authors usage of the term “aberration” in the article above. and this:

        Usually, considered in geometrical terms, the center of a circle or the midpoint of a line is the relative standard against which to measure the extremes. However, when the center itself is extreme and extremist, as in present-day Israel, such geometrical logic no longer works. More specifically, the exception is no longer an outlier in relation to the general rule; rather, the general rule itself is exceptional and deranged.

        when considering this paragraph note the author did not claim this “geometrical logic” not working was exclusive to israel or jews. nor did the author claim is wasn’t. the reason likely being because it’s besides the point made in the article. also note the term “usually”. usual only means “what is usual” it does not mean in all other circumstances.

      • just
        just
        August 3, 2015, 1:05 pm

        Sincere thanks, Annie.

        Beyond the fact that I am speechless with admiration for your responses, there is really nothing more to add.

  25. just
    just
    August 2, 2015, 9:30 pm

    “Kiryat Yam Mayor David Even Zur’s car was torched Saturday night while it was parked by his house. Nobody was hurt, but the car suffered serious damage. Police believe a bomb was planted in the car and advised the municipality to provide a bodyguard for the mayor.

    A municipal spokesman said there have been no previous threats against Even Zur, and therefore municipal officials believe the bombing was a hate crime in response to the mayor’s Facebook post on Friday.

    “On Tu B’Av, the festival of love, when around us we are seeing more and more displays of hatred and violence that make us all cringe, we must love and respect each other,” he wrote. “This is the time to remember the most important commandment, ‘Love thy neighbor as thyself,’ which encapsulates the entire Torah. Let’s stop hating, quarreling and fighting … and, as it says in the book of Psalms, ‘Turn from evil and do good, seek peace and pursue it.’”

    read more: http://www.haaretz.com/beta/.premium-1.669254

    There’s an almost overwhelming sense that there is no respect for the rule of law or for others expressing ideas not liked by the ‘cult’. When has anyone called planting a bomb in a car a “hate crime”???

  26. just
    just
    August 2, 2015, 10:20 pm

    Kris @ 4:59 wrt the proposed self- protection by the people of Douma/Duma~ here’s Amira Hass:

    “Jewish Terror Attacks Tighten the Noose Around the Palestinian Authority

    During the first intifada, settlers didn’t dare enter the village of Duma, the site of last weekend’s deadly arson attack. But for two decades the locals have been unprotected.

    In the hours after the murder in Duma and during the funeral of 18-month-old Ali Dawabsheh, the shocked residents of the village were divided into two camps: those disgusted by the appearance of members of the Palestinian security forces, armed and in uniform, and those who pitied them.

    With their shiny vehicles, they couldn’t travel on Allon Road and enter the village (which is in Area B, under full Israeli security control) without coordinating with the Israel Defense Forces.

    The Palestinian security forces deployed around the mosque during the prayers, in which Palestinian Prime Minister Rami Hamdallah took part, before the small burned body was buried. According to his uncle Nasser, the fire consumed Ali’s hand and foot.

    The exceptional presence of the Palestinian security troops, just a few hours after the fatal arson, made the absence of any protection only 10 hours earlier stand out. Their brief appearance highlighted the ease with which the murderers didn’t suffice with a house on the margins of the village; they dared enter the neighborhood. The troops armed and polished presence only illustrated the Palestinian Authority’s pathological weakness.

    According to international law, the IDF is responsible for the security of the Palestinians in the entire occupied territory; according to the Oslo Accords it is responsible for their security in at least areas B and C. But its declared mission, and indeed the practice, is to protect the security of the settlers and the settlement enterprise.

    According to the agreements the PA has signed, its apparatus is forbidden to operate in areas B and C and to protect its own people. If private citizens dare own arms for self-defense against Israeli attackers and use them, the IDF and Shin Bet security service will arrest them.

    About the small group of young people who came to the funeral with green Hamas flags, someone remarked cynically: “Tomorrow they’ll be in the Authority’s prisons.” Another said: “During the first intifada not a single settler dared enter the village. Since our Palestinian Authority was established, we have been exposed and unprotected.”

    As a third person put it, the security forces “came to protect PM Hamdallah, not us.” He added: “They receive their orders from Israel.”

    These are the reasons the PA’s opponents felt disgusted that day by the PA security personnel, and those who do not oppose the PA pitied them, assuming they themselves were embarrassed by their powerlessness.

    After all, a few dozen residents of this village work in the security forces. But they’re not allowed to defend their own homes.

    Duma is a bit distant from the violent outposts of the “Shiloh Valley,” which for the past 15 years — and even before that — have made the lives of villages such as Mughayer, Jalud, Kusra and Krayut a nightmare. With the aid of IDF rifles they expel people from their land. Three years ago unidentified assailants torched cars in Duma and left a messages in Hebrew, local people said.

    “But we are a quiet village, we don’t cause any problems,” a few people said. Many work in the settlements — Sa’ad Dawabsheh, Ali’s father, who was critically burned in the arson, worked in Nofim. Others work in the settlement of Shiloh. …

    Covering up for the PA’s inherent inability to protect its people from Israeli attacks of every type — the army’s and the settlers’ hurting of people and damaging of crops — a few Fatah people made pretentious declarations in front of the Dawabsheh’s home and on the way to the funeral.

    “All of us in the end are muqawama [the resistance],” someone said. Another spoke about the need for neighborhood watches at night, which Fatah has been talking about for three or four years at least.

    The command positions in the security forces are filled by Fatah members. The arson attack on the Dawabsheh family exposes Fatah, the de facto ruling party, in all its weaknesses. The IDF and Shin Bet praise the PA’s security forces for helping prevent terror attacks on Israelis, but the PA isn’t allowed to prevent terror attacks on its own people. And the forces hide in their homes and offices when IDF forces invade Area A, where the PA has policing authority.

    Thus, even if the PA could have proved that the Hamas members arrested recently meant to carry out armed attacks against Israelis, and that these were against the good of the Palestinian public, it was on a defensive position.

    The PA is faithful to the instructions of the Oslo Accords (whose validity was to expire in 1999) and to their economic, security and territorial restrictions, while it believes that the unceasing expansion of the settlements is a gross violation of these same agreements.

    Every Jewish terror attack (including attacks on farmers and the fruit of their labor) tightens the noose of anger and embarrassment around the PA’s neck. It’s impossible to predict when and how, but at some stage this anger and embarrassment will have implications in internal Palestinian politics.

    The Israeli regime is showing sudden and self-righteous shock over a murder it encouraged by not preventing previous terror attacks and punishing the attackers. This signals how strongly Israel wants the PA to remain as it is.”

    read more: http://www.haaretz.com/beta/.premium-1.669243

    • just
      just
      August 2, 2015, 11:23 pm

      “Palestinian Foreign Minister Riad Malki said that the Palestinian Authority will file a suit Monday with the International Criminal Court in The Hague over the deadly arson attack in the West Bank village of Douma that killed an 18-month-old baby early Friday.

      The Palestinian mission to the United Nations said Malki arrived in Geneva Sunday and will file the suit at the behest of the Palestinian leadership, which authorized the move. In recent days, the PA has been collecting evidence and testimonies about the event in Douma, in addition to other events involving attacks on Palestinians by settlers.

      Haaretz has learned that Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas has found a personal interest in reports published in recent days regarding a June arson attack on the Church of the Multiplication of the Loaves and Fishes, in Tabgha, near Tiberias. He also expressed interest in reports about a Jewish extremist investigated by the police for his role in the arson, who was found in possession of a file explaining how to ‘streamline’ such attacks against Palestinians and non-Jewish holy sites.

      According to senior Palestinian sources, the PA views the file as proof of a pattern of attacks by extremists, and that the incident in Douma and the church were premeditated and not spur of the moment hate crimes.

      Abbas is set to fly to Cairo on Monday to meet with representatives from the Arab League. According to the sources, he is expected to request diplomatic support for the ICC petition.

      … “A government that encourages building settlements everywhere in the West Bank and East Jerusalem also encourages the settlers to carry out these crimes… These are war crimes and crimes against humanity,” Abbas said.”

      http://www.haaretz.com/beta/.premium-1.669256

      • Bornajoo
        Bornajoo
        August 3, 2015, 6:17 am

        This just came in on Haaretz. These guys should join forces with IS. They apparently want to overthrow the government and create a hard line religious state. Ho hum….

        By Amos Harel and Chaim Levinson
        Published 10:07 03.08.15
        Investigators into Friday’s murder-by-arson of a Palestinian infant increasingly believe in the likelihood that the extreme rightist operatives responsible for the attack are affiliated with the same ideological group that has torched mosques, churches and Palestinian homes over the past year.

        The group’s core consists of several dozen people whose operations are centered in West Bank outposts but wander all over the country, including within the Green Line.

        Unlike in the past, the understanding is that these assailants are no longer attempting to deter the government and security forces from evacuating outposts and settlements. Nowadays they have more ambitious aims, like destabilizing the country and overthrowing the government to establish a new regime to be based on halakha, Jewish law. They plan to use violence in a systematic, continuous manner irrespective of police conduct in the territories, investigators said.

        This ideological shift among this gang of violent young Jewish fanatics once referred to as “price tag” activists or “hilltop youth” was identified by the Shin Bet security service and the Israel Police late last year. The terrorists came to the conclusion that mosque fires were old hat, and that a broader approach was needed.

        Some of these ideas were expressed in a document confiscated from Moshe Orbach, 24, of Bnei Brak, who was charged last week in the torching of the Church of the Multiplication of the Loaves and Fishes on the Kinneret shore. He had written the document, titled “The Kingdom of Evil,” which lays the ideological foundation for escalating the attacks against religious sites and Arabs, and offers practical suggestions for how to avoid surveillance and questioning.

        Similar ideas about the need for harsher measures against Arabs and battle against the state were expressed by another right-wing extremist, Meir Ettinger, on the Jewish Voice website. Ettinger, 23, a resident of the Givat Ronen outpost in the northern West Bank, is a grandson of Rabbi Meir Kahane. Earlier this year the Shin Bet sought to put Ettinger in administrative detention, but State Prosecutor Shai Nitzan denied the request. Eventually, he was forbidden to live in the West Bank and now resides in Safed.

        The term “price tag” was first attached to West Bank settler acts of violence in 2008, but at the time they were mainly aimed at deterring any further outpost evacuations. The targets were generally cars and homes in Palestinian villages, with no clear intention to cause bodily harm. By 2013 these attackers were causing more extensive damage to mosques and churches, both in the West Bank and in Israel proper, while also making their first attempts to harm Arabs physically. (Organized terror against Palestinians by other West Bank settler groups, though, goes back to the 1970s.)

        The number of attacks defined by the Shin Bet as Jewish terror actually dropped from 30 in 2011 to 17 in each of the next two years, and to only 10 in 2014, but the acts themselves were more serious. Moreover, as the Shin Bet and the police began to arrest suspects and charge them – in the arson at an Umm al-Fahm mosque, for example – the militants became more secretive and compartmentalized. They’ve also become familiar with the security services’ interrogation techniques.

        Over the past year the most active terrorists were radical rightists who live in Ramallah-area outposts. Militants from Yitzhar, near Nablus and its surrounding area, particularly the married ones, began to keep a lower profile after some were arrested. It is estimated that the recent attacks are the work of a few dozen assailants in their early twenties, while minors are also involved. Most move regularly between the West Bank and Israel proper and change their place of residence often.

        The ideological change that was identified last year provided a new framework for attacks against Palestinians and religious institutions. According to the agencies monitoring them, the operatives present an “anarchist, anti-Zionist” world view and justify violent attacks, including ones that cause casualties, as means toward destabilizing the state, undermining Israel’s social institutions and democratic government, and advancing a revolution that would set up a new Israeli “kingdom” that would operate in accordance with Jewish law.

        The drafters of this new Jewish insurgent ideology are not in regular contact with rabbis and do not feel the need for halakhic rulings to justify their actions. They see rabbis once perceived as extremist as having become too “establishment.” They stress the need for emotional resilience, both as they act and if they are subject to police and Shin Bet interrogations. They reject any attempt to impose on them any authority.

        Another dangerous change is that they now justify the killing of Arabs during attacks on houses and religious institutions, and are willing to demonstrate “self-sacrifice,” including the acceptance of long prison terms, to promote their goals. Some have even been saving money in case they are imprisoned for a long period. When a Palestinian home was torched near Dura in the South Hebron Hills six months ago (the family managed to escape), a structure on the grounds of the Dormition Church in Jerusalem was burned, and the church along the Kinneret was set alight, it seems the arsonists knew that people were inside, unlike in most past arsons, which were committed at night when the buildings were empty.

        In various documents and statements, these young settlers speak of creating chaos in the country by intensifying the friction over what they identify as the country’s vulnerabilities. While the Jewish terror organization that operated in the West Bank in the beginning of the previous decade (whose members were never put in prison) dealt with shooting attacks targeting Palestinian cars, the new Jewish terrorists are looking for targets that they describe as “explosive”: the Temple Mount, “eliminating idolatry” by torching mosques and churches, and “expelling the non-Jews” by systematically attacking them. The assailants also talk about inciting against government systems and imposing religious strictures in public spaces, particularly with regard to women’s modesty.

        While the attacks are conducted under a general ideological framework, they are carried out by small, compartmentalized cells that don’t really need a chain of command. Each cell is headed by an older activist who surrounds himself with young people. The cells do not share their plans with one another. As far as can be ascertained, the resolute declarations by government officials about acting against Jewish terrorists is not yet deterring them.

        The vast majority of these loosely affiliated groups are known to the Shin Bet and the police, which have considerable information about them. The main difficulty lies in translating this intelligence into evidence admissible in court. In most cases, the terrorists are instructed in advance how to remain silent under interrogation and how to avoid leaving evidence at the scene that could lead to their capture. (In an unlikely break in the Kinneret church case, a tossed glove that had traces of one of the defendants’ DNA led to their capture.)

        During a series of consultations on Sunday between political and legal officials, Shin Bet head Yoram Cohen and other senior Shin Bet officials called for stronger measures against Jews suspected of committing terrorist attacks on Jews. The Shin Bet complained that the courts are too lenient, particularly in enforcement against those who violate restraining orders distancing them from the West Bank or restricting their movement. The Shin Bet supports the position of Defense Minister Moshe Ya’alon, who has called for limited use of administrative detention against Jewish terrorists.

      • Kay24
        Kay24
        August 3, 2015, 7:32 am

        Israeli leaders have encouraged these terrorists by being lenient with them, and arming them.
        It looks like the illegal settlements, at least some of them, are a breeding ground for vicious and dangerous terrorist. So far no one seems to be arrested, and it is obvious the way Israeli forces react to crimes by their own criminals, and the overreaction to those by some Palestinians, is different. These are greedy, destructive elements, whose main aim is to make the Palestinians suffer by burning, stealing, and destroying their precious olive trees, attacking places of worship, firebombing cars, writing racist graffiti on building, spitting, throwing stones, and basically acting like barbarians. It is sickening to see the UN, US and the EU, condemning these acts and doing sweet nothing afterwards. We have the ability to make Israel toe the line, and control their terrorists, simply by threatening to stop the aid and support, and yet the lobbies get the upper hand in our own nation, and call the shots, making our leaders jump through hoops to support the occupation, crimes and terrorists, by the so called “only” democratic nation in the ME.

      • just
        just
        August 3, 2015, 7:51 am

        Thanks for the ‘news’, Bornajoo.

        iirc, it was Rania Khalek & Max Blumenthal who first coined #JSIL. At that time, it referred to Israel and the IOF as well as other armed forces of Israel. We’ve always known that the combined armed forces protected/aided the illegal squatters in their violence against the Palestinians and their land/resources, and that the courts stood by the illegal squatters as well. This article reveals that the responsibility for the growth of this terrorist illegal squatter movement lies squarely with Israel. The ball is in the US’ court now. Will we see existing anti- terror legislation used or wimpy excuses that Israel has a problem and they’re dealing with it and we have “faith in the system” (that allowed/encouraged this to fester and flourish)?

        (“US gov’t has ‘faith in the system’ that Israel will prosecute killers of Palestinian child– why?” – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/israel-palestine#sthash.gFM407aQ.dpuf)

        Thanks, Kay24, for your comment, too.

      • just
        just
        August 3, 2015, 8:12 am

        Oh, look:

        “U.S. Jewish Groups Urge Israel to Rein in Its Jewish Extremists
        AIPAC, Conference of Presidents and ADL, among others, condemn deadly West Bank arson and Jerusalem Gay Pride stabbing.”

        read more: http://www.haaretz.com/beta/1.669333?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

        Sorry, but these groups and their unequivocal support for all things Israel is part of the problem. Anti- terror legislation would affect them, too. It would affect Adelson/Saban/et al, as well.

        From the article:

        ““Expressions of outrage are no longer enough. The perpetrators of these crimes need to face specific, enhanced consequences for these despicable acts of hate and terrorism. Community and religious leaders must make unquestionably clear that any act of hate and violence is unacceptable, un-Jewish, and that anyone involved in such incidents will be shunned by the community, let alone prosecuted to the full extent of the law,” they stressed.

        “Such a heinous act offends all people of good will and violates basic Jewish values,” the Orthodox Union said in a statement. “We commend Prime Minister Netanyahu for his unequivocal repudiation of this act and his commitment to bring the perpetrators to justice.””

        Too bad that they didn’t notice the incitement by Netanyahu and many ministers and religious leaders, and the myriad policies that led up to the creation of another branch of terror, Israeli- style.

        ‘You reap what you sow’… harvest is in!

  27. Pippilin
    Pippilin
    August 5, 2015, 7:08 pm

    I can’t help but observe that Jewish terrorists in Israel and the OT, as well as the IDF, make claims for doing what they do best : killing for “defense” or the more honest word, “revenge”. The latter was written on the burned house in Duma. Revenge for what– existing? What did revenge make better, either for Jews or Palestinians?

    I’m reminded of a wise quotation from Confucius– these murderers need to consider it, and drop the ‘eye-for-an eye’ routine–“He who seeks revenge must dig two graves.”

    • bintbiba
      bintbiba
      August 6, 2015, 9:18 am

      Pippilin says:

      [“I’m reminded of a wise quotation from Confucius– these murderers need to consider it, and drop the ‘eye-for-an eye’ routine–“He who seeks revenge must dig two graves.”]

      Excellent comment, Pippilin. Thanks.

    • RoHa
      RoHa
      August 6, 2015, 10:50 am

      Wise indeed.

      I have heard it as a Chinese proverb, but I don’t think it was from Confucius. I know it isn’t in the Analects. Perhaps the Great Learning or one of the other Classics somewhere? Do you have a reference?

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