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Reps Deutch, Lowey, and Israel choose Netanyahu over Obama– and who will bring down the hammer for the Iran Deal?

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  1. Ismail
    Ismail
    August 5, 2015, 10:59 am

    Am I being too cynical in supposing that those Dem congresspeople who oppose the deal have no illusion that their opposition will kill the deal but instead know full well that it’s gonna pass and simply want to keep their trough filled? “Hey, look, AIPAC…I did my best!”

    • annie
      annie
      August 5, 2015, 11:02 am

      no you’re not being too cynical. you’re just not dumb deaf and blind.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        August 5, 2015, 11:45 am

        Funny, I just finished reading Josh Marshall’s latest post on the Iran deal, and various aspects of the matter. He looks at it it from almost every angle, but never once mentions the fact that Israel has nukes. Odd.

      • just
        just
        August 5, 2015, 11:55 am

        Mooser, that ain’t “odd” at all.

        It’s de rigueur.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        August 5, 2015, 12:22 pm

        “It’s de rigueur.”

        Oh. I thought he had a degree in history or something.

  2. Ismail
    Ismail
    August 5, 2015, 11:07 am

    Thanks for that. Please tell my wife, who’s not so sure.

  3. tokyobk
    tokyobk
    August 5, 2015, 11:17 am

    “According to a survey conducted by the Los Angeles Jewish Journal on July 22, 49% of American Jews support the deal, while only 31% oppose it. Yet, AIPAC’s high-profile anti-Iran deal campaign, coupled with aggressive activities of some other Jewish organizations, depicts the entire American Jewish community as “objectionist.” ”

    As have a good portion of the people who have been commenting here.

    It seems from the poll you quote that Jews are more clear how they feel about this issue, and that they are both more in favor and less opposed to the deal than the general American category.

    53% of American Jews think congress should support the deal. 41% overall Americans agree. 35% of US Jews think congress should oppose. All Americans: 38%.

  4. just
    just
    August 5, 2015, 11:17 am

    It’s obvious that these 3 “democrats” are not really suffering from dual loyalty syndrome. They’ve shown that their true allegiance is to Israel and Netanyahu~ not to their President, not to their party, not to their country, and not to their own citizens. Their constituents ought to be finding replacements NOW.

    Period. And now, only because the word ‘dual’ came to mind again, here’s “Dueling Banjos”:

    • amigo
      amigo
      August 5, 2015, 12:25 pm

      Just, Could you find a better video than that .Jon Voight is an ardent zionist and Arab hater.

      Just sayin.

      • just
        just
        August 5, 2015, 12:50 pm

        I know, amigo. Sorry about that. Can’t stand him, but I don’t know how to edit him out.

        I bet there’s plenty of his kind reading here, too.

      • CigarGod
        CigarGod
        August 6, 2015, 10:01 am

        There is a video of voight frothing like steer on loco weed…somewhere. I think he then gallops over a cliff while ranting about his daughter losing her soul to the devil. I was waiting for a big butterfly net to drop over him.

      • CigarGod
        CigarGod
        August 6, 2015, 10:04 am
  5. Les
    Les
    August 5, 2015, 11:24 am

    When zionists switch their loyalty from the US to Israel they are obligated to make their Aliyah to Israel. Common decency requires that, while they remain here, they keep out of US politics and in no way participate in an Israeli fifth column against loyal Americans. It beats me why more Jews aren’t offended.

  6. piotr
    piotr
    August 5, 2015, 11:25 am

    http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/robert-menendezs-multi-task-prep-for-trial-blast-iran-deal-120340.html

    I am not sure if “taking orders from Israel” is a good description. It is just sticking with your friends who will stick with you in the time of need. Menendez defense fund is allegedly almost all pro-AIPAC (he is not such a good investment for regular lobbyists).

    By the way, Menendez is not commenting on the deal with Iran right now but “reviewing in depth”. Will he wait until his defense fund reach five million?

  7. peterfeld
    peterfeld
    August 5, 2015, 11:43 am

    Even if the deal is going to go through it’s important to show some muscle. I’d love to see it move “beyond Twitter” with a PAC to threaten all the Democratic traitors with primary opponents. (Even if they’re just opposing the deal “for show.”) The Democratic primary voter base will not tolerate being dragged another war in the Middle East. These politicians mainly understand fear, it’s time to make sabotaging a peace deal and betraying Obama for a foreign country toxic at the polls.

    • just
      just
      August 5, 2015, 11:53 am

      “These politicians mainly understand fear, it’s time to make sabotaging a peace deal and betraying Obama for a foreign country toxic at the polls.”

      Absolutely spot- on, Peter!!! They are not only “betraying Obama”, they are betraying the American people.

      (Think of “the children”, the future, the hundreds of thousands killed for the ego of a monomaniacal leader and inciter-in- chief nicknamed Bibi)

    • yourstruly
      yourstruly
      August 5, 2015, 3:26 pm

      What’s needed is a a “Down with Israel-Firsters!” bumper sticker

      • Dagon
        Dagon
        August 5, 2015, 8:04 pm

        The Donald said we’ll take our country back.Bumper sticker TAKE BACK AMERICA.DUMP ISRAEL.Or FROM THE ZIONISTS.ETC.

  8. amigo
    amigo
    August 5, 2015, 12:20 pm

    “As a result of this deal, there will be more terrorism, there will be more attacks, and more people will die,” Mr. Netanyahu said. – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2015/08/israel-choose-netanyahu#sthash.AOQAu1vE.dpuf“.

    Oh you bet there will and Nietanyahu will see to it , that Palestinians will be attacked at a greater level than before , murdered , kicked out of their homes and their lawn mowed with the express intent of creating a response to which yahu will say, “See I told you so ” and Iran is behind all of this by giving arms to “Khamas” using the money they gained ( their own money) from the sanctions being lifted.

    I tell you , if this deal goes down , there will be a rift between the USA and the other P5 + 1 members and the EU will accelerate their efforts to sanction Israel by instituting labeling requirements and imposing banking restrictions .Israel will take a big hit on this.

    Add to that the fact that Great B, France , Germany , Russia, China and all the other EU members will be booking flights to Iran, (some already are) and opening embassies and writing trade contracts with ” The Mullahs” while Israel and the US sit helplessly by.

    The US and Israel deserve what they get or should I say ,”don,t get”.

    • just
      just
      August 5, 2015, 1:03 pm

      +1, amigo!

      “The US and Israel deserve what they get or should I say ,”don,t get”. ”

      It might just be the lesson that Americans need. Too many remain entirely unconcerned with foreign policy.

    • Citizen
      Citizen
      August 5, 2015, 1:14 pm

      Just how much immense $ power makes US such a pawn of Israel? Thanks U, SCOTUS!

    • Citizen
      Citizen
      August 5, 2015, 1:26 pm

      US 1st trade agreement was with Israel in 1985; US business has lost big time thanks to that agreement, there ever since. Israel net harms the US daily, and has for many decades.

      • hophmi
        hophmi
        August 5, 2015, 10:51 pm

        Source?

  9. ckg
    ckg
    August 5, 2015, 1:11 pm

    Officially Steve Israel is “highest-ranking Jewish Democrat in the House” because he is Assistant Party Whip and the chair of the House Democratic Caucus Task Force On Defense and the Military . But I think Sander Levin, ranking Democrat on the Ways and Means Committee, holds more real power.

    • MRW
      MRW
      August 6, 2015, 4:34 pm

      Sander Levin just voiced his support for the Iran deal, didn’t he?

      • ckg
        ckg
        August 6, 2015, 9:08 pm

        MRW, yes, Both Levin brothers support the deal.

  10. Citizen
    Citizen
    August 5, 2015, 1:45 pm

    Obama takes to the bully pulpit to wake up Dick & Jane, R U an Israel Firster, or a US1st?

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/08/04/obama-calls-on-grassroots-support-to-counter-aipac-lobby/

  11. Citizen
    Citizen
    August 5, 2015, 1:46 pm

    Anybody got any news on Obama’s speech to US public defending his Iran Deal today?

  12. John Douglas
    John Douglas
    August 5, 2015, 6:22 pm

    I think the actions of US Senators and Representatives who oppose the Iran agreement are despicable. But the issue should not be framed as a matter of loyalty to Netanyahu or President Obama. It is plainly a matter of loyalty to Israel or to the United States. These elected officials are on the cusp of being traitors.

    • Doubtom
      Doubtom
      August 6, 2015, 12:40 pm

      What’s with the “cusp” thingy? Isn’t it outright treason,,,else how would you define treason?

  13. Les
    Les
    August 5, 2015, 8:15 pm

    On the heels of Obama’s mention of “abrogation of his constitutional duty” we should ask these Congress people just what constituion they swore to uphold when they recited their oaths of office.

    • Doubtom
      Doubtom
      August 6, 2015, 12:41 pm

      And while we’re at it, we should ask who sent them to Washington to represent Israel, a question I’ve been posing for years.

  14. niass2
    niass2
    August 6, 2015, 2:16 am

    They are traitors. Call them, and tell them to leave the party,. And actually, when u look at this whole debate, it actually doesn’t even matter what congress does, the world has decided, so let’s stop overhyping the fact that we as Americans still think we matter. We don’t!

    All these people are very very old, Deutch, Lowey, Israel, they are all old useless people who will be dead and gone soon

    Jews are Jews. I am one and I assure u I don’t know a soul who thinks Lowey is even someone who matters in any way about real life.

    Every Jew I know supports the deal and Obama. Its a non-issue. My Zionist relatives all support it, I have asked. The polls are meaningless. The crazies who are professional Zionists are in a froth, but they’ll be frozen soon, just ask God.

    The problem stems from a Its a bunch od old men with too much money, again they will all be dead and gone soon. They think they matter, god disagrees, and will show them when the Renault factory opens in 2017.

    Steve Deutch of Israel is actually no one. Like that guy “Noone” pronounced noon who is running for dog catcher here.

    Let’s all get a life and forget it. Even if they get their war it’ll just be another mess they feel sorry for. people are going to get killed all over the world anyways , but really, the USA really doesn’t matter, Now back to that new Dead show at MSG……

    Your average Iranian is probably sipping their tea laughing about how dumb this all is. The Vietnamese did well with many wars, The Iranians will be fine, they aren’t morons, Or I doubt they are, and they know how to fight since that Iran Iraq circus we sponsored.

    If its anything like Morocco they also have Chicken Donuts with powdered sugar. Yummm…..Tell me when I can go visit as a Tourist.

    These Coggress people are useless and look at their Twitter feeds, they support every “cause” on earth if it sounds like it would sound good to someone who eats Tofu. As they envision us as Tofu eating Potheads.

    Not..Good Enuf.

    They can now exit the party. Google them and call them and tell them what you think of their uselessness and sloth. It is Hiroshima day, time for them to listen to Obama

    what did he just say? Did u hear what I just heard?

    We are on the raodagain..so make that call. see you there on the 31st

  15. Jabberwocky
    Jabberwocky
    August 6, 2015, 3:04 am

    Win or lose the vote, once it is done, Obama should use the actions of AIPAC to immediately order the Attorney General to investigate the finances of AIPAC and force their registration as agents of a foreign power.

    • Doubtom
      Doubtom
      August 6, 2015, 12:51 pm

      I’ve been calling for just that for years. Do you think it will ever happen? Nothing could be clearer than AIPAC’s allegiance to Israel above that of the United States. Why America tolerates these dual citizens (in fact) is beyond me. Don’t the Jews have enough hatred directed to them already–do they need even more? This caper by AIPAC and the many Jewish lobbies, will guarantee a resurgence of anti-semitism only this time it will very much be instigated by the Jews themselves. Reap what you sow!

      • annie
        annie
        August 6, 2015, 1:09 pm

        This caper by AIPAC and the many Jewish lobbies, will guarantee a resurgence of anti-semitism only this time it will very much be instigated by the Jews themselves. Reap what you sow!

        there’s a big difference between “AIPAC and the many Jewish lobbies” and “the jews” — many of whom very much do support the iran deal. it would behoove you to make that distinction when you comment. and if it doesn’t pass moderation, try again with some scrutiny applied!

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus
        August 6, 2015, 2:34 pm

        Doubtom,

        Annie’s reply is factually correct. It forgets, however, a very significant element: all organized lobbies and such calling themselves Jewish are pulling in the same direction, that of support to Zionist crimes. The only one that officially is working against is now equally officially engaged in a major disruptive maneuver, breaking up and paralyzing the Palestine solidarity movement (see http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/08/03/the-case-of-alison-weir-two-palestinian-solidarity-organizations-borrow-from-joe-mccarthys-playbook/ )

        This almost-total absence of organized opposition to Zionism among those continuing to identify with the tribe is a very significant element. It must be considered very carefully before deciding to block or censor discussion on extremely significant topics before it has taken place.

  16. Kay24
    Kay24
    August 6, 2015, 10:04 am

    A nation that has not signed the NPT, manipulated intelligence to push us into war with Iraq, has interfered in the policies of our nation, and has been a troublemaker in the ME, wants us to now do what IT wants regarding this deal, which by the way the rest of the world has accepted?

    This shows how dangerous it is for politicians to be bought and influenced by an alien entity, that has never been on the right side of issue, sees bogeymen everywhere to keep their war mongering going, and has been caught lying numerous times. What is the world thinking about the only superpower, and how it has become the puppet of this conniving nation?

    Shame on Deutch, Lowey, and Israel, who have compromised their own integrity, by hitching their wagon to a war mongering nation, condemned by other nations for its crimes against humanity, and has no decency in openly biting the hands that feed it.

    • Citizen
      Citizen
      August 6, 2015, 11:42 am

      Nita Melnikoff Lowey, another Jewish Democrat congress critter just defected from Obama to Netanyahu camp.

  17. RobertHenryEller
    RobertHenryEller
    August 6, 2015, 12:19 pm

    I’m tired of de-facto Israeli politicians usurping U.S. government elected offices.

    They should be prosecuted for violating their oaths of office.

    • CigarGod
      CigarGod
      August 6, 2015, 12:24 pm

      Okay, there’s a mob I can carry a torch for. Sign me up.

    • Doubtom
      Doubtom
      August 6, 2015, 12:55 pm

      Either that or do away with the meaningless ‘oath of office’. They should be forced to join the country they favor over their native land. There’s legal precedence for removing citizenships for just such blatant treason.

      • wondering jew
        wondering jew
        August 6, 2015, 4:40 pm

        doubtom- Americans by birth had their citizenship removed for blatant treason. Please cite some link or a name I can google. I doubt you.

  18. RobertHenryEller
    RobertHenryEller
    August 6, 2015, 2:09 pm

    I posted the following comment today on the New York Times, in response to the article “Obama Takes On Opponents of the Iran Deal.” By mistake, no doubt, the NYT comment monitors made it a “Times Pick.” You can access the article and the comment via this link (You can also see the replies I got.):

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/06/opinion/obama-takes-on-opponents-of-the-iran-deal.html?comments#permid=15701151

    [begin text of NYT comment]
    We Jewish American voters should continue our wise track record, and support the P5+1/Iran deal, actively.

    79% of Jewish Americans voted for Gore in 2000.
    76% of us voted for Kerry in 2004.
    78% of us voted for Obama in 2008.
    69% of us voted for Obama in 2012.

    We Jewish Americans know who is best for the U.S. and Israel.

    Netanyahu and Likud won 29 of 120 Knesset Seats, 25%. Netanyahu’s coalition could only manage 61 of 120, 50%. Yet Netanyahu claims to speak not only for all Israeli, but for all Jews. Clearly, he does not. We Jewish Americans know better. He does not represent us. He does not represent Israel. He has not earned our support.

    Do AIPAC, Adelson, the GOP, represent Israel, Jewish Americans, or Jews? No. AIPAC, Adelson, the GOP, represent Likud. We Jewish Americans know this.

    We Jewish Americans need to support the best interests of the U.S., our country. And we Jewish Americans, unfortunately, need to be the true friends of Israel, of Jews, of Judaism, and ourselves.

    Yes, there is anti-Semitism. Yes, there was the Holocaust. But the Holocaust happened during a literal World War, which followed a world financial crisis, and socio-economic chaos. War, financial crisis, socio-economic chaos, have never been good environments for Jews. Why would Jews anywhere support a path towards war?

    We Jewish Americans are wise enough to support peace and diplomacy. We are wise enough to support ourselves, the U.S., Israel, and the P5+1/Iran nuclear agreement.
    [end text of comment]

    • MRW
      MRW
      August 6, 2015, 4:41 pm

      @RobertHenryEller,

      ✔✔✔

      EDIT: one quibble: “War, financial crisis, socio-economic chaos, have never been good environments for anyone.

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