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The new Israeli consul general to New York, Dani Dayan, arrived at his job week ago with a long record of intolerant rightwing ideas. “Dayan categorically opposes the creation of a Palestinian state in the occupied territories or self-determination of any kind for Palestinians inside historic Palestine.”

Because Dayan is a settler in an illegal Israeli colony in Palestinian territory, Ma’ale Shomron, and he has worked as a leading spokesman for the settlements, Brazil rejected Dani Dayan as ambassador just last spring. Our report: 

Dayan is best known as the most successful advocate for Israel’s illegal settlements in the occupied territories. He worked for the settler public relations firm, the Yesha Council, for 13 years years, of which the last five he severed as the group’s chairman before stepping down to begin a term as a foreign media advisor to Netanyahu.

Under Dayan’s tenure the Yesha Council was coined the “foreign ministry” for Israel’s settler movement…

Both the Institute for Middle East Understanding and the Associated Press have been blunt about Dayan’s reactionary resume. AP:

For years, Dani Dayan was the West Bank settler movement’s face to the outside world. Next week, he’ll become the face of Israel to much of North America… Dayan’s appointment reflects the settler movement’s strong influence in Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s government.

The week he arrived, Dayan got to work, criticizing Palestinians on Huffington Post and, once again, seeking to legitimize settlements:

a Palestinian State does not exist because our neighbors have always preferred to continue their struggle to eliminate Israel from the map, instead of taking any of the far-reaching offers made to them by successive Israeli governments….

I will not engage the hate-filled demagogues, because it is totally futile and because they don’t deserve it.

However, I definitely see as my duty to dedicate a large share of my time and effort to those on the fence, to the disenchanted lovers of Israel, to those that want to support Israel but don’t always comprehend all its policies

Yesterday Dayan reached out to New Yorkers. And where Brazil failed him, New York embraced him. Here, surprisingly, is the liberal Forward editor, Jane Eisner, meeting Dayan.

Forward editor Jane Eisner and Dani Dayan, consul general of Israel in New York

Forward editor Jane Eisner and Dani Dayan, consul general of Israel in New York

“It was a pleasure to host you!” Eisner tweeted.

Historian and editor Jonathan Cohn took exception:

In meeting Dayan, Eisner risks alienating liberal Jews, who oppose Dayan’s attitudes, according to predictions made to the Associated Press by liberal Zionists Steven M. Cohen and Peter Beinart:

Peter Beinart, a prominent liberal commentator, predicted Dayan will be welcomed by the mainstream American Jewish leadership and socially conservative Orthodox Jews.

But “for progressive Jews, he’ll be just one more reason to feel alienated from a government they already consider morally alien,” Beinart said.

Dayan also met yesterday with an orthodox Jew, New York City councilman David Greenfield, who represents a heavily-Jewish district in Brooklyn and who once worked for Joe Lieberman’s presidential ambitions. Greenfield gushed:

Scott Roth, our publisher, promptly pointed out:

Yeah, brag about the fact you’re hanging with a criminal of international law. Only in America.

That got under Greenfield’s skin. He responded:

The great thing about America is that YOU have right to lie about anyone. However, your lies are just that – lies

Roth then added:

And that folks who have value systems antithetical to that of this country’s can still hold office.

Greenfield wrote:

Scott, your tweets don’t even make sense. I get it: you don’t like Israel. But why do you need to lie?

Roth isn’t lying. Forty Brazilian former diplomats cited Dayan’s flouting of international law when Israel was going to send Dayan to Brazil.

The diplomats state their opposition to Dayan’s appointment especially because of his role among the settler movement, since he presided the Yesha Council between 2007 and 2013 and still lives in a settlement, Ma’ale Shomron, in territories that Brazil has recognized as part of the State of Palestine since 2010. In addition, the diplomats remember, Dayan also has stated his opposition to the establishment of the Palestinian state.

It’s disappointing that a progressive New York editor and a NY city councilman are meeting with a settler spokesperson. But it is good news that they are getting called on it by smart editors and publishers on line. Others will surely think twice about posing smiling with international offenders.

 

 

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  1. Emory Riddle
    Emory Riddle
    August 12, 2016, 12:01 pm

    God Help us.

  2. wondering jew
    wondering jew
    August 12, 2016, 12:30 pm

    Poor Jane Eisner- no matter how left wing the roots of the Forward and her own roots as well, the Forward is as mainstream as it gets and she smiles when meeting the consul from Israel, no matter how right wing.

    As far as labeling Dayan a criminal of international law, though technically accurate, (so therefore inappropriate for the politician to counter with “liar”), it is very way out and in concert with other “over the top” uses of language that we have seen this past week.

    • oldgeezer
      oldgeezer
      August 12, 2016, 1:28 pm

      @yonah

      Truth is over the top? What a coddled exkstence you require. What is needed is more truth and more action in dealing with these criminals. And much less pretense that their is anything that should be understated about their crimes againsr millions of people. They are amongst the worst of the worst even if sensitivities recoil at the reality.

    • Donald
      Donald
      August 12, 2016, 4:24 pm

      This doesn’t seem over the top to me. I agree that over the top rhetoric can backfire, but even liberal Zionist supporters of a 2ss would have to agree the settlements are a violation of international law and a huge obstacle to the 2ss.

    • inbound39
      inbound39
      August 12, 2016, 8:32 pm

      Yonah….if Dayan is living in an illegal settlement he is a criminal and violating International Law. The American Government allowing this known despot into America and granting him the privilege to spread more of his lies about Israel’s criminal actions is a giant reason why America continues to plummet down the Integrity ratings and its global status sinks further into the abyss.

    • dgfincham
      dgfincham
      August 13, 2016, 11:45 am

      @oldgeezer, @inbound39.

      We should be careful in our use of the word ‘criminal’. Israel’s program of building settlements for its own citizens in territory outside its borders which it has placed under military occupation is a violation of international law, namely the fourth Geneva convention. It is the State of Israel which has violated international law, not the settlers themselves. They are not criminals. Individuals are not expected to understand international law. They should obey the laws of their country. If Israel tells them it is legal for them to settle in the occupied territories, they cannot be blamed for doing so.

      We might loosely call Israel a criminal state because of its illegal behavior, but I think it better not to do this because it causes confusion with war crimes, which are committed by individuals, not states.

      The settlement program is considered a war crime under the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court, and those individuals who are implementing the program are committing a war crime. I am not sure whether this would include members of the government, because normally they take collective responsibility for all government decisions, which cannot therefore be assigned to particular individuals. (It might be different in the case of Israel because votes by cabinet members on policy decisions seem to be public information.) The ICC could certainly go after the Military Governor who rules the occupied territories by decree. His authority comes from the international laws of war, and as a military officer it is his duty to disobey illegal orders.

      • oldgeezer
        oldgeezer
        August 13, 2016, 12:15 pm

        @David

        Feel free to use all the care you deem appropriate for yourself. I disagree.

        They are participating in war crimes and the vast majority of them are dual citizenship holders so their original country is also their government. The entire world regards these settlements as war crimes and these people are knowingly participating in it.

        They are totaly immoral and criminal on a moral level.

        Feel free to chose your own words.

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus
        August 13, 2016, 12:49 pm

        Fincham,

        You can use that language to talk to shysters, not to normal humans.

        Of course it’s impractical to try everyone, but the law only indicates that the leaders, administrators, etc. are to be prosecuted: it does not explicitly exonerate participants. The principle that no one is allowed to ignore the law is still on the books, from what my lawyer friends tell me, and a very wise thing it is, too.
        As for prosecuting the crime of obeying illegal orders, the impracticality of including everybody is the same.

        You can’t sell that idiotic opinion that the direct tools used for committing most heinous crimes against humanity, i.e. those who physically commit the crimes, are to be considered innocent.

        What you are doing is conscious propaganda to delay any action against this huge crime, an important facet of the genocide of the owners of Palestine, until kingdom come (i.e. defeat and arrest of the few government members and such) while the low-level murderers and enforcers continue unhindered. It’s an opinion equivalent to banning any resistance to occupation soldiers, uniformed or not.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        August 13, 2016, 1:17 pm

        ” If Israel tells them it is legal for them to settle in the occupied territories, they cannot be blamed for doing so.”

        Israel actually tells them that? In so many words?

      • Lillian Rosengarten
        Lillian Rosengarten
        August 13, 2016, 3:37 pm

        Settlers vicious behavior towards Palestinians , is indeed criminal behavior. They are an affront to humanity and represent the ideology of Zionist Israel as a racist, brutal occupying country and land stealing. How can anyone , unless brainwashed or deluded defend them?

      • dgfincham
        dgfincham
        August 14, 2016, 11:26 am

        @Mooser and others.

        Settlers who carry out criminal acts are criminals. Those who do not carry out criminal acts are not criminals simply by virtue of being settlers: the criminals are those people who actually promote and implement the settlement program.

        Israeli citizens are the primary victims of Zionist propaganda. It is in the schools, in the media, in the universities, in the synagogues, in the Knesset, and in the government. They are told that God gave all of Palestine to the Jews; that the Palestine Mandate gave a right for any Jew in the world to settle in any part of Palestine until the end of time; that the Jordanian occupation and annexation of the West Bank was illegal, and the Israeli forces liberated it in 1967; that the Palestinian territories are not occupied, merely disputed; that the Israeli government has determined that the ICJ and the High Council of the Geneva Conventions were wrong when they declared the settlement program to be illegal; and that the goal of the Palestinians is to destroy Israel.

        The only possible peaceful solution to the Israel-Palestine conflict is one that is acceptable to the peoples on both sides. It won’t be easy to convince Israeli Jews that they have been consistently lied to by the Zionists: and in particular it won’t help to convince the settlers if we start off by branding them all as criminals. I know that among the settlers there are ordinary young families who are there simply because of the government offer of cheap accommodation: I have had internet conversations with them. They may well be in a majority. In most populations political activists are a minority, but those are the ones we read about. Ordinary people living ordinary lives do not make the headlines.

        @echinococcus. You accuse me of using “conscious propaganda to delay any action against this huge crime”. Not at all. I am in favor of effective action against this huge crime as quickly as possible. I have many times said that the first step towards peace is an enforceable Security Council Resolution demanding a halt to the settlement building. There is already a majority for that, and it could pass tomorrow if the USA did not veto it. Do you have an alternative strategy? If so, let’s hear it.

        You say that my opinion is “equivalent to banning any resistance to occupation soldiers, uniformed or not”. Not at all. I accept that armed resistance to forces of the occupying state is legitimate. That was the policy of the PLO from its formation in 1964 to 1988, and it achieved nothing. Armed resistance could never defeat Israel, because it is the strongest military power in the region. Non-violent resistance is much more effective. It defeated apartheid in South Africa. It gained civil rights for blacks in the USA. It overthrew the dictator of Romania. Compare that with Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Syria where armed attempts to overthrow oppressive governments led only to failed states, massive humanitarian catastrophes and perpetual war.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        August 14, 2016, 6:29 pm

        “@Mooser and others.”

        Hello David. I was wondering whether Israel tells the settler (in just about so many words) ‘this is all perfectly legal, you are not taking anything but ordinary financial or legal risk etc’ or whether Israel doesn’t tell the settlers, and the banks(right?) and real-estate companies involved something more equivocal, something less clear?
        Seems like something they must obfuscate about.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        August 14, 2016, 6:38 pm

        “The only possible peaceful solution to the Israel-Palestine conflict is one that is acceptable to the peoples on both sides.”

        I don’t know how you define “peaceful”, but there will be a huge disturbance created by the failing of the Zionist colonial enterprise.
        Don’t see any way out of that. Zionism believes in the efficacy of violence, and 200 million Jews can apply a lot of it.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        August 14, 2016, 6:44 pm

        “Israeli citizens are the primary victims of Zionist propaganda…/…and that the goal of the Palestinians is to destroy Israel.”

        Gee, I would have thought the +15 would take care of that. We’re too smart too fall for that….oh, they did fall for it? That’s awful!
        I hope the Internet reaches Israel someday.

    • Marnie
      Marnie
      August 14, 2016, 1:02 am

      There just really isn’t a ‘nice’ way to call a criminal a criminal yonah. How is being truthful ‘over the top’ (ridiculous expression). Is it that hard for you to deal with reality?

  3. Kay24
    Kay24
    August 12, 2016, 1:06 pm

    Any Israeli pariah rejected by other nations has a red carpet welcome here in the US.

    • Krauss
      Krauss
      August 12, 2016, 8:18 pm

      It’s because the nerve center of the Israel lobby is in America. It’s also why Israel has been able to avoid the same pressure as Apartheid South Africa. The Afrikaaner lobby, such as there even was one, doesn’t even stand a chance against the Israel lobby.

      Shillary will be 8 golden years for these people. During these 8 years we have to consolidate the gains made during the Obama years. And we can’t settle for a waffler like Bernie. I/P has to be made a major priority for every democrat, just like gun laws, pro-choice, pro-gay marriage is.

      The PEP people have to become purged. It’s only an elite obsession anyway, concentrated on capitol hill and in the media. There is no major support structure within the liberal base, and it’s long, long past time that those who support an Apartheid state get called what they are: racists.

      • Kay24
        Kay24
        August 12, 2016, 10:19 pm

        The nerve center, the aid giver, and the arms supplier. They control us and we know it.
        It is up to the other nations to help the Palestinians now, and reject the zio interference in their countries. All they have to do is take a good look at the world’s biggest democracy, and how much it is on its knees when it comes to Israel, to know it is vital to not allow that snake to slither in to their own countries and end up like we have.

  4. Ossinev
    Ossinev
    August 12, 2016, 1:29 pm

    Always look on the bright side. Dayan has consistently rubbished the idea of two states and I don`t think he can be muzzled by the Yahoo – he is after all a settler and the Yahoo is in the settlers pocket. So whilst the Yahoo continues to play out the charade of a two state solution which is the message which most Americans have been getting to date all of a sudden potentially there will be his Consul General in interviews on US TV portraying this as an absurd and unobtainable objective.

    However Dayan`s role pans out the JSIL Titanic continues to steam merrily towards the Apartheid iceberg. Just a question of time.

  5. Raphael
    Raphael
    August 12, 2016, 2:00 pm

    And, it is getting worse.

    Israel, in its ideal wants to be the Third Temple. A majority of American Jews, secular, socialists and religious Jews from Reconstructionist Jews, to the Orthodox are for it. The only way to negotiate with such a fundamentalist right wing mentality is to think like they think. When in Rome do as the Romans do.

    A majority of the international Jewish community wants a Jewish ghetto in In Israel; with a in name only democracy that politicians give lip service too. So, the Arabs should advocate for their own nation(or ghetto) within the nation of Israel.

    • Mooser
      Mooser
      August 12, 2016, 3:14 pm

      “A majority of the international Jewish community wants a Jewish…”

      So what? Why does it matter what the “international Jewish community” (gee, what exactly is that?) wants?

      Raphael, 200 million Jews is a lot, but it’s not enough to rule the world.
      We may have to compromise, in spite of our overwhelming Jewish population, power, unity and resources.

      ” So, the Arabs should advocate for their own nation(or ghetto) within the nation of Israel.”

      Yeah! That’ll teach those Zionists!

  6. hophmi
    hophmi
    August 12, 2016, 2:14 pm

    Right, because people should never talk with those with whom they may disagree.

    • echinococcus
      echinococcus
      August 12, 2016, 3:18 pm

      No, Hophmi. Speaking with those with whom one disagrees is a good thing. Perhaps the Zionists may be reminded of it –when they are forced to give up their lifelong policy of never hearing.

      It is totally useless, on the other hand, to try to speak with one who is so devoid of understanding and sense, or so emotionally impaired, that there is no percentage in even trying.

    • Mr.T
      Mr.T
      August 12, 2016, 3:31 pm

      When has talking with one of these fanatical criminals ever accomplished anything? The Palestinians have been talking to them on and off for 50 years and the settler criminals still spread like a cancer across Palestine. What is lacking isn’t talking with members of JSIL, but it’s non-evil acts by JSIL to respect Palestine and the rights of the people of Palestine.

    • John O
      John O
      August 12, 2016, 4:22 pm

      If you mean that Brazil was wrong to refuse Dayan’s appointment as ambassador, then you are missing the point. To have accepted Dayan as ambassador would have been to legitimise the settler movement and their theft of Palestinian land.

      If you are in favour of people talking with those with whom they disagree, then I’m sure you will be the first in line to tell Netanyahu to get back to the negotiating table pronto.

    • Donald
      Donald
      August 12, 2016, 4:25 pm

      That argument would work better if Hamas officials could visit the US and talk with people with whom they disagree.

      And anyway, the disagreement is all kabuki theater. Israel will continue to get billions in aid, so why should they care if Jane Eisner politely disagrees with settlement building?

  7. pabelmont
    pabelmont
    August 12, 2016, 2:55 pm

    I’m glad Brazil refused him: that is the first “action”, the first gesture more than “mere words” that I can recall any country doing w.r.t. Israel’s int’l lawlessness. But, still, how much bettwer it would have been it Brazil had done a “real” “sanction” such as refusing all impors or refusing to allow people to arive within Brazil with Israeli passports, something along those lines.

    Seen that way, refusing to receive a monstrous politician (aren’t they all, mostly?) is pretty thin gruel.

    As for USA or NYC, this monster is a representative: he does not speak here for himself or out of his own opinions or desires, or so I suppose, but out of those of his masters, GoI. And they are the real monsters, altho very welcome in USA and NYC.

    We live in lousy times.

  8. catalan
    catalan
    August 12, 2016, 7:23 pm

    I am just so happy to talk to mooser again. He is just incredibly funny and that is interesting, he has somehow gotten funnier in the last year, which I did not think was possible.

  9. watzal
    watzal
    August 13, 2016, 8:40 am

    Accepting the former leader of the racist Yesha (settler) council, Dani Dayan, as Israel’s Consul General in New York City, after he got rejected as ambassador to Brazil by the Brazilian government, tells a lot about the Zionization of U. S. American and New York’s leading Jewish representatives. Their Judaism seems nothing more than meaningless and hollow Zionism. That is why Dayan is the right person they deserve.

    In addition to that, his appointment should tell the American public who calls the shots in the U.S. How can it be that Brazil rejects a man as ambassador and the U. S. accept him as Consul General in the most important city in the world? It’s the same old story. President Obama got ridiculed by Netanyahu several times and kept silent. Why should anybody mind, accepting an outspoken racist as representative of a racist and occupying regime in the “land of the free and the home of the brave”?

  10. Ossinev
    Ossinev
    August 13, 2016, 11:30 am

    Watch this balloon headed self brainwashed idiot twist turn and squirm at:

    • Marnie
      Marnie
      August 14, 2016, 12:10 pm

      Dr. Ghada Karmi – what a jewel! I love how she kept correcting him stating, “I see you as a common thief” and “No, it’s much simpler than that, I see you as a common thief’. !!! She wasn’t going to let him give himself the PC title of ‘zionist’ or take away her righteous anger by simply saying she was antizionist. No little danny boy, you’re nothing but a common thief.

  11. Boo
    Boo
    August 16, 2016, 12:52 pm

    How is it that America has to accept the leftovers that even Brazil didn’t want?

    • Mr.T
      Mr.T
      August 16, 2016, 1:24 pm

      Who in America makes the rules? Politicians.
      What do politician need? Campaign cash.
      What’s the issue of importance to a disproportionately large percentage of those who “give” that campaign cash? JSIL.

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