Zionism’s tailspin: Stark minority of young California Jews are ‘comfortable with idea of Jewish state’

The latest study of U.S. Jewish attitudes towards Israel only confirms the trend– Zionism is tanking; there is growing indifference to the idea of a Jewish state among younger, unaffiliated Jews.

Here’s that survey of over 3500 Bay Area Californians, 96 percent of whom consider themselves Jewish or partly Jewish, released yesterday by the Jewish Federation in the Bay Area.

When 18-34 year olds are asked if they’re “very attached” to Israel, only 11 percent say yes, compared to 25 percent of those 50 and older. Is a Jewish state very important? 37 percent of the young say yes. Only 40 percent of the young are “comfortable with the idea of a Jewish state.”

Ask the same questions among those 50-64, and the numbers are, 61 percent regard a Jewish state as very important, and 64 percent are comfortable with the idea of a Jewish state. Zionism is age-related, of course: Over 65, that number is 73 percent comfortable with the idea of a Jewish state.

Among the “very liberal,” only 45 percent are comfortable with the idea of a Jewish state, only 17 percent are very attached to Israel, and 44 percent think that a “Jewish state is very important.” The numbers among very conservatives are 76, 32, and 68 percent.

Intermarriage affects these attitudes, of course. In-group couples are, by 54 percent to 4 percent, more sympathetic to Israel than Palestinians. But mixed couples are more sympathetic to Israel than Palestinians, by much less, 36 percent to 7 percent.

Haaretz has the right headline: vast numbers of progressive California Jews are disengaging from Israel.

Other tidbits: Among 18-34-year-olds, the intermarriage rate is a whopping 66 percent, compared to 42 percent of those over 65.

The affluent are far more Jewishly-engaged. This would seem to be an indication of age– older=richer. They are also the bastions of the Israel lobby.

Then there are the unaffiliated, who make up 43 percent of the sample. Only 8 percent of them say they are “very attached” to Israel. They sympathize with Israel more than Palestinians, as every other grouping in the survey does; but the number isn’t overwhelming, it’s 32-11, with 58 percent saying they’re not sure, or sympathize equally with both.

Thanks to Annie Robbins.

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amazing statistics. kinds blows the idea of what “most jews” think (at least here in the bay area) right out of the water. especially this in the 18-to-34 yr-old demographic:

Only 40 percent of the young are “comfortable with the idea of a Jewish state.”

the implication being, 60% are uncomfortable with the very idea of a jewish state. granted, we don’t know how many are merely neutral vs uncomfortable. but still, if a person can’t say they are even comfortable with an idea that doesn’t bode well for neutrality. and of those 40% who do feel “comfortable with the idea of a Jewish state”, only 11 percent described themselves as very attached to Israel.

contrast this with who is it out there trying to speak for the “Bay Area Jewish Community”. i think Cecilie Surasky was right in 2013, writing in response “local branches of the Anti-Defamation League and the American Jewish Committee, as well as the Jewish Community Relations Council” claiming — “Bay Area Jewish Community Condemns Deceptive Apartheid Ads”: https://mondoweiss.mystagingwebsite.com/2013/05/francisco-apartheid-backlash/

Saying something over and over again doesn’t make it true. The Bay Area JCRC, and local offices of the ADL and the AJC, are not synonymous with the “Bay Area Jewish Community.” In fact, while the Jewish Community Relations Council claims to represent Bay Area Jews, they won’t release the number or names of groups they represent. That certainly makes one wonder if the number is embarrassingly small. And it’s likely shrinking. There is no shortage of Jews around here, from a wide political spectrum, who would be appalled to be associated with an attack on a Muslim group for using a word [apartheid] that Israeli officials use regularly.

so here we are 5 years later and indeed, the numbers they represent, here in the bay area, are embarrassingly small.

Slow, slow, and not all that positive for Palestinians. A long, tough row to hoe, here.

Marvelous! I don’t think even Frank Luntz could spin this to Israel’s favor. People complain about millennials, but I love ’em.

I’ve been following this since Jesse Jackson and Hymietown and at the time, particularly with his successes 4 years later in the early primaries, it seemed that the democratic party was moving in an antizionist direction in a big way. It didn’t happen.

I think the best thing that happened the last 9 years in the middle east is what didn’t happen, an open war: attack by israel on iran’s nuclear program by bombs released by Israeli jets. the avoidance of that was an accomplishment, certainly one that still threatens in the looming future and in the proxy (?) present.

i never thought that frisco was the harbinger of the future for either america or american jews. i think of “if you’re going to san francisco” and shlomo carlebach (google him) and his house of love and prayer and my year in southern california and one visit up to frisco. i do not consider san francisco the wave of the american future or the american present. gadfly, most likely. model, since when?

my zionist cousin says the democratic party already abandoned israel by not attending netanyahu’s speech and backing the iran deal.

san francisco is a useful measure of the so called grass roots progressive wing of the democratic party.

the bifurcation of american jews into orthodox versus intermarrieds, with a small portion in the middle ground does not bode well for american liberal jewish support for israel.

the turmoil of the arab world works against the arab world in the american mind, therefore as long as israel does not start a real war against iran, the issue is likely to simmer and appeal to activists, but the broad swath of america does not care. the world is messy and the middle east is even messier and the pentagon is bloated, but if we’re spending money on a military in any case, then middle east realism should be the way to go. pro palestinians might have a case to make to the realists, but the region is so messed up, that their cause is lost in the general chaos. It is not realism but anti colonialism, to use a phrase, that is the ideology that appeals to more people on the palestine issue. and anticolonialism would fit in an “identity” category rather than an “american” category.