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Schumer and Dems outdo Trump at AIPAC– there’s no peace because ‘Palestinians don’t believe in Torah’

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That orgy of elite devotion to Israel that is the AIPAC policy conference has featured one prominent Democrat after another seeking to outflank the Trump administration in their expressions of love for Israel.

Senate Minority leader Chuck Schumer took the prize by slinging mud at Palestinians and Arabs as the reason there is no end to the conflict. Schumer said the problem is that the Palestinians don’t believe in the Jewish Torah:

Now, let me tell you why – my view, why we don’t have peace. Because the fact of the matter is that too many Palestinians and too many Arabs do not want any Jewish state in the Middle East. The view of Palestinians is simple, the Europeans treated the Jews badly culminating in the Holocaust and they gave them our land as compensation.

Of course, we say it’s our land, the Torah says it, but they don’t believe in the Torah. So that’s the reason there is not peace. They invent other reasons, but they do not believe in a Jewish state and that is why we, in America, must stand strong with Israel through thick and thin…

In a speech laden with Hebrew, Schumer also said that Israeli settlements and land-grabs have nothing to do with the conflict, and threw in praise for the Trump administration’s decision to move the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem.

Now, some say there are some who argue the settlements are the reason there’s not peace, but we all know what happened in Gaza, Israel voluntarily got rid of the settlements there, the Israeli soldiers dragged the settlers out of Netzarim, and three weeks later the Palestinians threw rockets into Sderot. It’s sure not the settlements that are the blockage to peace.

Some say it’s the borders. Oh, Israel wants different borders, but they forget during the negotiations in 2000, Ehud Barak was making huge territorial concessions that most Israelis didn’t like, it was Arafat who rejected the settlement. It’s not the borders neither. And it’s certainly not because we’ve moved the embassy to where it should belong in Yerushalayim. It’s not that either.

(“In which NY’s senior senator engages in hate speech of the worst kind in the worst of all arenas,” Scott Roth commented.)

Other Democrats praised the Trump administration, or said it wasn’t doing enough to support Israel.

This morning Delaware Senator Chris Coons hailed Ambassador Friedman and his “great team at the embassy.”

He also praised Trump’s U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley– but said she should be doing more against “anti-Israel bias” at the U.N.:

Our ambassador Nikki Haley has been a strong and capable and good leader. But we should be doing more.

She’s the ambassador who has said she wears heels in order to stomp out anti-Israel bias.

While New Jersey Senator Robert Menendez criticized the Trump administration for not fully implementing the sanctions against Iran that Congress has authorized. Menendez said war was on the horizon.

The security of the United States is strong when the security of Israel is strong… We know that Israel has always been surrounded by enemies. Today the stakes are even higher…. These growing threats demand that we do everything we can now to push back against Iran’s continued aggression.

We know that Israel would prefer to keep the sword of freedom sheathed… [But if war comes] We will stand on the side of our one true ally in the Middle East.

Coons (who is said to be on a par with Joseph Goebbels in his warmaking rhetoric) also issued declarations about a war with Iran being our fight:

I have not seen a security situation as immediately threatening as today… … Iran [is] increasingly and aggressively challenging Israel…

When Iran and Russia challenge Israel directly they are also challenging the United States.

House Democratic whip Steny Hoyer called Israel the “miracle in the Middle East” and all but trashed President Obama’s Iran deal in his comments.

that agreement clearly was not perfect. That agreement clearly should have dealt, in my opinion with the nonnuclear malign destabilizing activity that Iran precipitates. It also should have dealt with a permanent solution, not a temporary solution. So, I’m supportive, as [Republican Majority leader Kevin McCarthy] is, of us moving towards renegotiation, cooperating with our European partners –

Queens congresswoman Grace Meng, a Democrat, and Claire Shipman of ABC (who is married to Jay Carney, the former Obama spox) outdid one another to highlight the supposed threat to world peace from Iran:

Shipman: Of course, just a few weeks ago Iranian forces in Syrian sent a drone into Israel and set off an entire series of destabilizing events. Earlier today Admiral Stavridis said to me he thinks that Iran and the way we deal with it really has to be the premier foreign policy challenge that we have right now in the Middle East. How do you think the U.S. and Israel can work together to confront the Iranian threat… and to be sure Israel has the support it needs to deal with the threats?

Meng: Well, it’s a good question. It’s why I voted against the deal in the first place and I think many people in this room agree that we knew that this threat would become more and more serious. You can clap. The answer is very generally two-fold…

One is to work here in Congress in a bipartisan way to insure that Israel has the resources it needs to defend herself and that doesn’t just keep and make Israel safer, it makes all of us safer around the world.

Do these Democrats really think that bellicose stances are going to get young progressives to go to the polls for Democrats, or to support Israel?

How will young Jewish Dems feel when they see VP Mike Pence at AIPAC calling Donald Trump “the most pro-life president ever” — a faux pas that underlines the rightwing bona fides of supporting Israel.

Not one of the big Democrats addressing the conference could bring themselves to speak about the occupation or discrimination against Palestinians, issues that are souring young progressives on Israel.

Amy Klobuchar, the progressive senator from Minnesota, said there’s a crisis for Democrats in that trend, but she said nothing about Palestinians. She said the trick was to talk about the Holocaust to young people, because they don’t know that history.

Getting youth involved and seizing on some of those issues that Israel and that this community has long stood up for, whether it is taking on climate change, whether it is immigration reform, whether it is standing up for refugees, these are issues that the Jewish community has been uniquely active on, and I think those are issues that are appealing to young people, and ways of talking about and teaching people what happened with the Holocaust and what the Jewish community has experienced because so many of them don’t really know that history.

While Schumer said that young progressives don’t know the history of Israeli victimhood.

Too many of our younger generations don’t share the devotion to Israel that our generations have. That’s a problem. We have to face it and deal with it…

Too many of the younger Americans don’t know the history and as a result, they tend to say, both sides are to blame. Many Americans, younger Americans didn’t grow up knowing Israel was attacked time after time. They think Israel has always been strong. They do not realize that if Israel were weak, her enemies would immediately seek her destruction…

The unfairness springs from a deep well of bias that has always existed, unfortunately, against Eretz Yisrael. If only the younger generation knew more about this unfairness, I believe it would affect them powerfully. And there are two things we can do immediately that will help rectify this situation…

One of those things, per Schumer, is to attack the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement, BDS, with legislation in Congress. Schumer said the BDS campaign is anti-Semitic. “Let us delegitimize the delegitimizers by letting the world know when there is a double-standard, whether they know it or not, they are actively participating in an anti-Semitic movement.”

I don’t think that tack is going to get young people back on board.

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  1. Citizen
    Citizen
    March 6, 2018, 11:38 am

    Jeez, Phil, what you report here is really scary. Both Trump & Netanyahu are facing unseating; a classic way around this is bringing the nation to war as diversion & power to the chief & Iran is the most probable target, the one most likely to be effectively targeted with the most support from the PTB in both USA and Israel. This is a recipe for WW3, Samson, supported by 98% Gentile America. This could easily happen in what’s left of my very aged lifetime. Anyone else here think so?

    • Marnie
      Marnie
      March 6, 2018, 11:55 am

      I agree with you. These 2 mad men are in deep doodoo and need a distraction. With tRUMP it’s a new cockup on a daily basis and with netanyahooo it’s the multiple investigations and the IRAN THREAT!!!!! since what, 1994? These 2 mad men don’t care about anything but their well-padded asses, bank accounts and immediate families. The rest of the world – not so much.

      • Steve Grover
        Steve Grover
        March 6, 2018, 12:59 pm

        So Marnie,
        Who would you like to see as Prime Minister of Israel?

      • Citizen
        Citizen
        March 6, 2018, 3:01 pm

        @ Steve Grover,
        How about you? Chuck Schumer?

      • ritzl
        ritzl
        March 6, 2018, 4:10 pm

        @Grover

        @AymenOdeh

        He’s the uniting factor in inclusive-Israeli politics…if equal rights is the objective.

      • Steve Grover
        Steve Grover
        March 6, 2018, 4:24 pm

        Nah Citizen, I’m good with Netanyahu for now. But that is really for Israeli Citizens to decide.

      • lonely rico
        lonely rico
        March 6, 2018, 4:33 pm

        > Steve Grover

        Who would you like to see as Prime Minister of Israel?

        I can’t speak for Marnie, but want to suggest Ramzy Baroud
        born in Gaza into a family which has lived in Palestine for many generations; unlike the disgraced Ben Nitay and fellow Zionists.

        Thanks for asking Steve.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        March 6, 2018, 5:49 pm

        “But that is really for Israeli Citizens to decide.”

        And the Israeli Courts.

      • Marnie
        Marnie
        March 6, 2018, 11:09 pm

        I like the suggestions by ritzl and lonely rico.

      • hungrydave
        hungrydave
        March 10, 2018, 10:24 pm

        Give it 30-40 years and maybe we’ll see Ahed Tamimi as prime minister of Israel

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus
        March 11, 2018, 3:16 am

        Hungry Dave:

        Are you out of your f*&^ mind? Of course anyone would be delighted to see Ms Tamimi leading Palestine. Repeat with me: the place is called Palestine, and she’s not going to submit to any “Israel”.

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus
        March 11, 2018, 3:19 am

        Grover,

        The ones I like for Prime Minister in “Israel” are Netanyahoo, Feiglin, Liberman, any of that openly Nazi bunch. Because they are the ones who surely and quickly enough are driving the shitty criminal invader state to suicide. Much faster than the other, “liberal” murderers.

        Don’t forget to jump ship while it’s time.

      • Marshalldoc
        Marshalldoc
        March 15, 2018, 3:08 pm

        New Israeli P.M.? Why Haneen Zoabi of course!!

    • Maghlawatan
      Maghlawatan
      March 6, 2018, 1:36 pm

      I don’t think it’s scary. The goons at AIPAC live in a different reality. AIPAC is like Israel. It is paranoid. Iran yada yada. The ordinary American people on whom Israel and AIPAC depend live in the real world. Israel does not. AIPAC is wall to wall nonsense.

      • Misterioso
        Misterioso
        March 7, 2018, 10:59 am

        https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/made-by-history/wp/2018/03/06/the-dark-roots-of-aipac-americas-pro-israel-lobby/?utm_term=.babef55496f6

        The Washington Post, Mar.6/18

        “The dark roots of AIPAC, ‘America’s Pro-Israel Lobby’ ”

        “The group was formed to spin positive PR after Israeli atrocities.”

        By Doug Rossinow March 6/18

        “Doug Rossinow teaches history at the University of Oslo, and is currently writing a history of American Zionism from 1948 to 1995.”

        EXCERPT:
        “AIPAC, the swaggering and influential American Israel Public Affairs Committee, which brands itself as ‘America’s Pro-Israel Lobby,’ is holding its annual policy conference. Top politicians from both parties vie for speaking slots at the group’s glitzy gala. Everyone pays AIPAC attention. And for good reason. Since the late 1970s, it has informally directed substantial campaign contributions toward chosen candidates for Congress. Its messaging on the Middle East is essential in Washington’s foreign-policy conversation.”

      • ritzl
        ritzl
        March 9, 2018, 5:56 pm

        Thanks Misterioso. I learn a lot from your links.

        Maybe some deeper questioning about WHY such an “anti-Israel” yet truthful OP-ED piece would be published in the WaPo is in order.

        Is the WaPo challenging conventional wisdom? To what end? “Testing the waters” via comments? Moving on from Neo Lib/Con FP politics to support a more domestic biz beneficence?

        There’s something going on there.

      • JWalters
        JWalters
        March 11, 2018, 1:24 am

        The broader American public could change their mind on Israel overnight if they somehow found out the truth.

        Maybe Bezos is realizing it’s time to bail on the next round of Nuremberg trials.

    • March 6, 2018, 3:22 pm

      I agree, Citizen. Phil seems to be willfully missing the point. “Do these Democrats really think that bellicose stances are going to get young progressives to go to the polls for Democrats, or to support Israel?” and “I don’t think that tack is going to get young people back on board” is not my reaction to this. The Israel-first-and-only crowd obviously wants war w Iran NOW, and there’s nothing to suggest — never has been — they won’t get it.

      • ritzl
        ritzl
        March 6, 2018, 5:25 pm

        Again, it’s not about “Young Jews” being exposed to this hypocrisy. It’s about EVERYONE being exposed to this hypocrisy, and acting accordingly.

        How would anyone, anyone at all, accept or reject this dogma? Most would not, upon being made aware.. The fact that “young Jews” are in that set is maybe encouraging, but also pretty much inconsequential, outside the “Jewish Power” construct.

  2. Steve Grover
    Steve Grover
    March 6, 2018, 12:44 pm

    Hey Phil,
    I’m guessing somehow they let you into AIPAC 2018. If that is true, will you do me a favor? Go introduce yourself to Jan Schakowsky. I know she is there. After she gets a good look at you she’ll start talking like David Friedman or Caroline Glick. Thanks.

    • Mooser
      Mooser
      March 6, 2018, 2:04 pm

      “Steve”, please take your Memantine.

      • Steve Grover
        Steve Grover
        March 6, 2018, 4:28 pm

        Mooser,
        If I did, I’d remember to comment here more and start catching up to you in the number of posts. I don’t want to be anywhere near second in being bananas compared to you.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        March 6, 2018, 5:43 pm

        .“If I did, I’d remember to comment here more”

        That’s no reason not to take your anti-dementia medication as directed.

        “I don’t want to be anywhere near second in being bananas compared to you.” “Steve Grover”

        “Steve” don’t worry. You will never come in second in “being bananas”.
        You’re the first in the bunch.

    • Misterioso
      Misterioso
      March 7, 2018, 12:39 pm

      @Steve Grover

      https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/zionists-won-body-lost-soul-politics-180306082428707.html

      “How the Zionists won the body but lost the soul of US politics”

      “Despite millions spent on propaganda, the Zionists have failed to frighten the moral conscience of the US into silence.”
      by Hamid Dabashi, Al Jazeera, 6 Mar 2018

      EXCERPTS:
      “The American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), the Israeli Fifth Column in the United States, is staging its annual policy conference from Sunday the 4th through Tuesday the 6th of March 2018 in Washington, DC, the very nodal core of this careworn empire.

      “‘AIPAC’s mission,’ as they put it resoundingly, ‘is to strengthen, protect and promote the US-Israel relationship in ways that enhance the security of Israel and the United States. Our staff and citizen activists educate decision-makers about the bonds that unite the United States and Israel and how it is in America’s best interest to help ensure that Israel is safe, strong and secure.’ And a vast propaganda machinery is at the disposal of AIPAC to spread the word.”

      “Joseph Goebbels and Leni Riefenstahl could not have done any better staging a fascist duet of images to project and assert global power. But AIPAC is visually barking louder than it can bite. It overcompensates.”

      “Their rich uncles like Sheldon Adelson can buy a ticket worth $5m to Trump’s inauguration. He can even buy a new embassy for the US on the stolen Palestinian city of Jerusalem. The other uncle Haim Saban – who has famously said ‘I’m a one-issue guy and my one issue is Israel’ – had already bought and paid for Hillary Clinton in case she had a snowball chance in hell to camouflage her bone deep corruption and beat the real estate charlatan. Both rich Zionist uncles owned both the candidates just to be on the safe side. But there are more than just these two. They are so many that the Zionists have in fact coined a term for them: ‘Zionaires: Billionaires Who Support Israel.'”

      “That is power. No doubt. But still the Zionists protest too much. They bark much louder than they can bite. Yes they pretend they own the body politics of American power. But, oh brother, how deeply and how eternally they have lost the soul of American politics.

      “What such gaudy and garish spectacles as AIPAC ‘conferences’ seek to hide, but paradoxically strips naked for the whole world to see is a deep sense of insecurity and illegitimacy. More than anyone else the Zionists themselves know full well they are fake. The loud and lurid shows they stage periodically in Washington, DC is to quiet their own inadvertent confession that they are thieves, unwanted intruders in someone else’s homeland. Their tawdry vulgarity at such ‘conferences’ seeks to hide but ever more glaringly broadcasts their colonial thievery, and their full knowledge of it.”

  3. philweiss
    philweiss
    March 6, 2018, 12:45 pm

    They won’t let me into their conference. This report is based on the livestream, on CSPAN, and on videos that AIPAC provides. A limited view.

    • Mooser
      Mooser
      March 6, 2018, 2:18 pm

      “They won’t let me into their conference.”

      So no one saw you on the stairs. And you won’t be there again today.
      But how they wish you’d go away.

    • Kathleen
      Kathleen
      March 12, 2018, 8:35 pm

      So committed to free speech and other alleged values that are supposed to be alive and well in the U.S.

      PW “They won’t let me into their conference.” Pathetic and oh so telling

  4. eljay
    eljay
    March 6, 2018, 12:51 pm

    Now, let me tell you why – my view, why we don’t have peace. Because the fact of the matter is that too many Palestinians and too many Arabs do not want any Jewish state in the Middle East. The view of Palestinians is simple, the Europeans treated the Jews badly culminating in the Holocaust and they gave them our land as compensation.

    Of course, we say it’s our land, the Torah says it, but they don’t believe in the Torah. So that’s the reason there is not peace. They invent other reasons, but they do not believe in a Jewish state and that is why we, in America, must stand strong with Israel through thick and thin…

    Mr. Schumer:
    – scoffs at the “simple” Palestinian view that supremacist foreign Jews occupied and colonized Palestine and established in it a religion-supremacist “Jewish State” because Europeans gave it to them as compensation for the Holocaust;
    – offers up the “complex” view that supremacist foreign Jews occupied and colonized Palestine and established in it a religion-supremacist “Jewish State” because the felt that their Jewish “holy book” entitled them to do it; and
    – marvels at the intolerance of Palestinians, Palestine’s indigenous population.

    I’m aware that Mr. Schumer is a hateful and immoral Jewish supremacist (Zionist). I wasn’t aware that he’s also a idiot.

    • Edward Q
      Edward Q
      March 6, 2018, 2:43 pm

      I just started a religion called “selfism”. According to my religion, God has decreed that Chuck Shumer must give me all his money.

      • Donald
        Donald
        March 6, 2018, 6:54 pm

        Heretic. He’s supposed to give it to me.

      • Edward Q
        Edward Q
        March 6, 2018, 9:18 pm

        We will see who has the stronger lobbying organization. If I can get the Christian evangelists to support me you are dead meat.

    • Mooser
      Mooser
      March 6, 2018, 3:33 pm

      ” there’s no peace because ‘Palestinians don’t believe in Torah’”

      Whoa, I thought I knew about Zionist expectations of philo-semitism, but this do beat all.

      • inbound39
        inbound39
        March 7, 2018, 2:19 pm

        The disturbing aspect of the statement made by Schumer is it states clearly Zionists want to impose their religion on the World. It makes a solid case that modern Israel is very much a global threat to peace just as 1939 Germany was. For Evil to prosper Good men need do Nothing.

    • Marnie
      Marnie
      March 6, 2018, 11:12 pm

      So he’s blaming TOE-RAH for lack of peace? Figures. When all else fails, blame dad.

    • JWalters
      JWalters
      March 11, 2018, 1:31 am

      At least Senator Schumer is making it plain precisely how idiotic and archaic are his reasons for slaughtering Palestinians.

      I’ll also keep in mind that, as someone who doesn’t “believe in Torah”, I am also potentially on his hit list. And I don’t appreciate it one bit.

    • strangefriend
      strangefriend
      March 12, 2018, 6:58 pm

      Sen. Schumer, what about The Age Of Reason, Tom Paine’s critique of the Torah (or Bible?)

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Age_of_Reason#Analysis
      The Age of Reason; Being an Investigation of True and Fabulous Theology is a work by English and American political activist Thomas Paine, arguing for the philosophical position of Deism. It follows in the tradition of eighteenth-century British deism, and challenges institutionalized religion and the legitimacy of the Bible. It was published in three parts in 1794, 1795, and 1807. It was a best-seller in the United States, where it caused a short-lived deistic revival. British audiences, however, fearing increased political radicalism as a result of the French Revolution, received it with more hostility. The Age of Reason presents common deistic arguments; for example, it highlights what Paine saw as corruption of the Christian Church and criticizes its efforts to acquire political power. Paine advocates reason in the place of revelation, leading him to reject miracles and to view the Bible as “an ordinary piece of literature rather than as a divinely inspired text”. It promotes natural religion and argues for the existence of a creator-God.

      • RoHa
        RoHa
        March 13, 2018, 1:47 am

        Paine already had a reputation for being a radical in Britain. He had gone to the American colonies and invented the United States by means of his Common Sense and American Crisis essays.*

        After the Fr. Rev. he was in Britain, hobnobbing with Price, Priestly, Wollstonecraft, and Godwin, when Burke produced his Reflections on the French Revolution . Wollstonecraft bashed out A Vindication of the Rights of Men in response. Paine encouraged her to write A Vindication of the Rights of Woman while nicking the best bit of her title to produce Rights of Man as his own response to Burke. The book was a massive hit, and was translated and pirated all over the place. Paine was tried for sedition, and sentenced to be hanged. Nothing came of this, since he had unsportingly skipped over to France before the trial even started.

        In France he was a member of the National Convention, then a political prisoner (part of AoR was written at this time), and then a member of the Convention again.

        So it is hardly surprising that the British Establishment did not welcome the latest writings of this dangerous character.

        Eventually he returned to the US. By that time the response to AoR had turned to condemnation for his attack on Christianity. (His attack on Washington didn’t help, either.) He was widely reviled in the country he created, and died in obscurity. Six people came to his funeral.

        (*Yes, Americans, your country was invented by an Englishman, though he became an American after he had done it.)

  5. Edward Q
    Edward Q
    March 6, 2018, 2:38 pm

    “Of course, we say it’s our land, the Torah says it,”

    What happened to separation of church and state?

    • johneill
      johneill
      March 6, 2018, 11:29 pm

      it’s much harder to discern when divine decree is the reason for the state.

  6. MHughes976
    MHughes976
    March 6, 2018, 3:09 pm

    If the point is that the Torah says it then it is unreasonable to expect non-Jewish people to accept great detriment to themselves for the sole reason that a religion which they don’t accept demands it. So it was and is unreasonable and unjust for Jewish people, even along with such Christian alllies as they have, to gain acceptance by force of arms. This is of course not forced conversion but it is forcing the demands of one’s religion on others, which is wrong, in another way. If the holocaust is the main consideration then everything depends on something which is in truth irrelevant: political rights in one place do not create rights for victims over third parties living in another place.
    All this may not play well with young people, who are perhaps less religious and who may not know many of the 1940s generation, but it still seems firmly settled in the minds of those still in power.

  7. Citizen
    Citizen
    March 6, 2018, 3:18 pm

    “I’m On A Mission From God To Be Israel’s Guardian”–Chuck Schumer: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/mj-rosenberg/schumer-im-on-a-mission-f_b_560091.html

  8. oldgeezer
    oldgeezer
    March 6, 2018, 3:25 pm

    What a nasty little racist he is.

  9. JLewisDickerson
    JLewisDickerson
    March 6, 2018, 5:49 pm

    RE: “[Delaware Senator Chris Coons] also praised Trump’s U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley . . . She’s the ambassador who has said she wears heels in order to stomp out anti-Israel bias.” ~ Weiss

    HAARETZ: . . . At the American Israel Public Affairs Committee Policy Conference (AIPAC) in Washington Monday, U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley addressed Erekat, who in February told her to “shut up” after she criticized Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas.
    In response, Haley said “I will never shut up,” to cheers of “Nikki! Nikki!” from the crowd. . .
    SOURCE – https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/palestinians-rip-into-trump-u-s-tried-to-isolate-jerusalem-1.5874016

    MY COMMENT: ¡Muy Macho! That Nikki’s one fine pistol packin’ mama!
    .

  10. JLewisDickerson
    JLewisDickerson
    March 6, 2018, 6:34 pm

    RE: “That orgy of elite devotion to Israel that is the AIPAC policy conference has featured one prominent Democrat after another seeking to outflank the Trump administration in their expressions of love for Israel.” ~ Weiss

    BUT SEE:
    “Why young Jews and Democrats are waving goodbye to AIPAC”
    • My generation has only known Israel as an occupier. We won’t back anyone who supports that injustice – including the powerful lobby that is AIPAC
    By Emily Mayer | Haaretz.com | Mar. 6, 2018

    The festival that is the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) annual conference began on Sunday in a slightly desperate fashion.

    Despite AIPAC’s recent wins around moving the Jerusalem embassy and waves of anti-BDS legislation on the federal, state, and local level, AIPAC President Mort Fridman opened the conference not with a victory cry but with a besieged appeal to the Left: “To my friends in the progressive community, I want you to know we are partners in this project…There are very real forces trying to pull you out of this hall and out of this movement and we cannot let that happen – we will not let that happen!”

    As a young Jew and leader with IfNotNow who marched, sang, and chanted in the chilly March weather outside AIPAC’s annual Policy Conference last year, I know that the forces pulling progressives out of AIPAC are of the Jewish establishment and the Israeli government’s making.

    As long as they insist on supporting and maintaining the occupation of millions of Palestinians in the West Bank, East Jerusalem and Gaza, progressives will turn away from pro-Israel advocacy in increasing numbers — both within and outside the Jewish community.

    Just look at the polling of the future American Jewish community: Support for Israel among Jewish college students in the United States dropped an astounding 32 percent between 2010 and 2016.

    While the Jewish establishment, anxious to make sense of these numbers, points to assimilation and the Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions (BDS) movement, the fact cannot be ignored: My generation has only known Israel as an occupier which denies millions of Palestinians access to water, proper medical care, and the ability to elect their own government. Supporting such a system as dogma is a dead-end to the thriving Jewish future we all want.

    But American Jewish community leaders attending the AIPAC conference year after year, regardless of Trump’s inflammatory actions in the region or which authoritarian Israeli official is speaking, are not the only ones failing to see which way the wind is blowing; elected officials – especially Democratic Party leaders – similarly face an increasingly skeptical base.

    A Pew study released in January showed that while 79% of Republicans sympathize more with Israel, only 27% of Democrats hold that view, the largest divide between the two parties’ views on Israel since the poll was first conducted in 1978.

    While there are many possible catalysts for this shift, it’s clear that as the GOP – and AIPAC and the Israeli government itself – has increasing aligned itself with a strange coalition of pro-Israel white nationalists (including anti-Semites), the Democratic base is becoming equally clear that it expects party leaders, politicians, and candidates to be on the side of freedom and dignity, here and in Israel-Palestine.

    In the near future, a candidate who campaigns on Medicare for All will not be able to support the occupation and call themselves a “progressive.”

    Led by young people committed to the future of this country and our communities, the left flank of the party is forcing cracks in the ossified status quo. When Bernie Sanders declined an invitation to speak at AIPAC in the heat of the 2016 primaries, citing a “scheduling conflict,” he broke with Democratic party convention and paved the way for progressives to be bolder about resisting AIPAC’s seemingly total power.

    When Kirsten Gillibrand put her name on an anti-BDS bill last summer, outcry from activists and the American Civil Liberties Union forced her to withdraw her sponsorship.

    As Democrats try to position themselves as an alternative to the authoritarian, racist policies of the Trump administration, unquestioning support for Israel is becoming an untenable position.

    When AIPAC conference attendees give standing ovations to the Trump administration and its dangerous policy moves, what is preventing progressive politicians from running in the other direction?

    Look no further than AIPAC’s speaker list for this year’s confab. While the Democratic establishment is appearing in full force – Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, and Democratic Senators Robert Menendez and Ben Cardin, who are heavily involved in foreign policy committees – this year the only rumored Democratic presidential hopeful is Amy Klobuchar.

    The lack of celebrity power and political ambition reflected in the line-up reveals a new, encouraging possibility: Democrats with ambition may no longer be required to make a stop at one of the most powerful lobbies in America on their way to political success. As Cory Booker and Gillibrand gear up to run for President by appealing to an increasingly Democratic base, that is a hopeful sign.

    However, this trend is not final nor inevitable; the progressive wing will have to fight hard to loosen AIPAC’s grip on the party, just as we young Jews are fighting to recommit our community, many of whom have grown up with AIPAC as an integrated part of Jewish life, to face the injustices it enables.

    Progressive Democrats fear that breaking with AIPAC’s politics will cost them their legitimacy and their seat. The political taboo around speaking out against Israel’s policies or supporting BDS can take the wind out of populist sails, as it did for Chicago’s Daniel Biss, who picked Democratic Socialists of America member Carlos Ramirez-Rosa as his running mate and then dropped him on accounts of Rosa’s support for BDS.

    It will not be enough to protest outside of AIPAC. Progressives of all stripes must demonstrate that the future of the Democratic party lies in policies that push for an end to the occupation and support freedom and dignity for both Palestinians and Israelis.

    If Democratic leaders want to be a party of the rising American electorate – those of us Jewish and otherwise committed to freedom and dignity for all – they must refuse to put their values aside for campaign funding or easy endorsements.

    We can and must be bold and uncompromising in demanding that the leaders who seek to represent us – within the American political system and the Jewish community – stand up for the rights and interests of all of us — workers, immigrants, women, LBGTQ, Palestinians and yes, Jews.

    If we succeed, we can truly say goodbye to AIPAC forever.

    • Emily Mayer is a founding member of IfNotNow, a movement led by young Jews to end the American Jewish community’s support for the occupation. She lives in Brooklyn, NY where she is a movement strategist and trainer. Twitter: @emilyfmayer

    SOURCE – https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-progressives-welcome-aipac-is-all-just-gaslighting-1.5871623

  11. Kay24
    Kay24
    March 6, 2018, 8:17 pm

    It’s that time of the year again. When Americans can watch with embarrassment, their representatives try to outdo each other, and try to do the most brown nosing as possible, making statements to endear themselves to a despicable organization. How readily they try to please the zionists, a cringeworthy display of kissing up, and showing unwavering love, even more than their own country.

    Schumer is totally wrong. The Palestinians believe in the Torah, because it is part of Islam.

    On the other hand the believers of the Torah, the Israelis, have no regard, nor respect for the Quran, or the Bible.

    • gamal
      gamal
      March 7, 2018, 8:35 am

      “Schumer is totally wrong”

      Many years ago the Tutankhamun treasures visited London, with some famous Mummies including that of Ramses the great, the 2nd is it?,

      The Saudi King was visiting London and a visit to the exhibition was arranged for him, one of those asked to attend was an Egyptian Sheikh of my acquaintance, let me leave you with this.

      As they proceeded through the exhibit my friend was accompanied by a British foreign office official,

      He heard the Saudi King ask which is the Mummy from Moses ( this also demonstrates the utter naffness of Saudi royals)

      He then stood before it assumed the pose and recited Surat al fatiha,

      the british official turned to my friend and asked him

      “Did he do that to honour the fact that this Pharoah fought against Moses and the Jews”

      can I leave that with you, what do you think.

      I accidently pressed post so it seems fated that i should post this rather than not, we are still laughing about it.

  12. Pdxmuscle@comcast.net
    [email protected]
    March 6, 2018, 9:50 pm

    Could you imagine the news if a US senator said this, “There is no peace because the Israelis don’t believe in Jesus”. Wow, it would be the top news story, the politician would be immediately ousted from his/her party. Just goes to show, racism is not a republican disease but an American one.

    • eljay
      eljay
      March 7, 2018, 8:29 am

      Ziosplaining:
      – The Holocaust – not Judaism – is the reason “the Jews” are entitled to geographic Palestine.
      – Judaism – not the Holocaust – is the reason “the Jews” are entitled to geographic Palestine.
      – The Holocaust and Judaism are the reasons “the Jews” are entitled to geographic Palestine.

      I wonder how Zionists like Schumer determine which Ziosplanation to use on which day.

  13. JosephA
    JosephA
    March 6, 2018, 11:48 pm

    AIPAC is scary, but like McCarthyism the unusual power will degrade very quickly one day.

    • March 7, 2018, 8:38 am

      You couldn’t possibly be more wrong, Joseph. It is over and out for the US of A.

    • druid
      druid
      March 7, 2018, 12:01 pm

      They’ve been doing this wherever they go for 2.5 thousand years. And they’re quick to change their skin! Not easy to beat this cabal

  14. Ossinev
    Ossinev
    March 7, 2018, 7:41 am

    A lot has changed and continues to change in the Middle East since the Yahoo made his puke inducing speech to Congress and stuck two fingers up to Obama in 2015. Syria and the role of Iran in defeating ISIS with the backing of Russia has IMHO irreversibly changed the dynamics. Whatever their differences on some issues there is now a set Russian-Iranian Alliance. All the prompting by AIPAC for the US to take on Iran on behalf of their beloved Zioland will hit a brick wall when the realisation kicks in that Putin like mad Donald does not like to have sand kicked in his face.
    WW3 I don`t think so. A panicky Yahoo and Zraeli Lobby in the US seeing the end of their days looming – yes I think so.

  15. Maghlawatan
    Maghlawatan
    March 7, 2018, 9:10 am

    Israel has nothing to do with Torah. The Torah is just a book. Trauma is much stronger.
    Israel has the same problem as Russia. It explains why Lieberman made it in Israel. Israel never processed the trauma of the past.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/mar/07/russia-stalin-putin-guilt-victims
    “Russian society is not ignorant of the scale of the purges and crimes perpetrated under Stalin. When Bornitkov spoke about millions of victims, those figures were nothing new for most Russians. For decades, Soviet doctrine taught citizens that these events were an unavoidable price to pay for the survival and development of the country. Stalinism today in Russia isn’t found in those monuments, flowers, or posters – nor is it in censorship or the double-speak of high-level officials. Instead it is hidden in the minds of many Russians, in how they perceive history, and how they relate to fundamental values.

    For most Russians, those millions of victims are nothing but cold statistics. Few people care to pore over the difficult and unpleasant questions. That’s because an unprocessed, psychological trauma remains in our society. The state doesn’t need to make any special effort to perpetuate this. All it needs to do is leave people alone with that terrifying past, and make sure they aren’t helped in trying to understand how it came about, or in coming to terms with unspoken feelings of collective guilt. This is how a totalitarian mindset can reproduce itself.”

    The tragedy of Israel is that the middle eastern Jews were contaminated with the trauma of the Jews from Eastern Europe.

  16. Vera Gottlieb
    Vera Gottlieb
    March 7, 2018, 9:55 am

    And do Zionists believe in the Kuran??? What kind of utter bs is this? And these are people sitting in government? No wonder things have been going from bad to worse…and getting worser.

    • Mayhem
      Mayhem
      March 9, 2018, 9:24 pm

      Acording to Noor Dahri, the director of Pakistan Israel Alliance (PIA) and Editor in Chief of the Newspaper Pak Israel News it is mandatory upon all Muslims to support Israel and her right to exist in the holy land because the holy book of Islam, the Quran supports Israel. There are many verses in the Quran which support the divine right of Jews on the land of Israel and he quoted just three to justify the right of the existence of Israel. The first verse of the Holy Quran stipulates:

      “And We said thereafter to the Children of Israel, ‘Dwell securely in the Promised Land” (Quran: 17:104)

      and the second orders the people of Bane-Israel to enter the Holy-Land:

      “O my people (the Jews)! Enter the Holy Land, which God has assigned unto you”, (Quran: 5:21)

      while in the third verse, Allah Almighty orders the children of Israel to scatter and says:

      “And we said to the Children of Israel afterwards, ‘scatter and live all over the world… and when the end of the world is near we will gather you again into the Promised Land” (Quran:17:104)

      Refer Islam Supports Israel’s Right of Existence by Dahri.

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus
        March 10, 2018, 5:12 am

        Don’t you just love it?
        Murderous Pakistani religious fanatics support the Sheldon Adelson and Khaim Saban dollars.

      • eljay
        eljay
        March 10, 2018, 6:56 am

        || Mayhem: Acording to Noor Dahri, the director of Pakistan Israel Alliance (PIA) and Editor in Chief of the Newspaper Pak Israel News it is mandatory upon all Muslims to support Israel and her right to exist in the holy land because the holy book of Islam, the Quran supports Israel. … he quoted just three [verses] to justify the right of the existence of Israel. … ||

        Neither of those two (not three) verses mentions Israel, “Jewish State” or “right to exist”.

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus
        March 10, 2018, 9:08 am

        Eljay,

        This Adelson-bought, disgusting criminal and fundamentalist religious fanatic does write in the title “Islam Supports Israel’s Right of Existence” and I suppose you do agree with him and Mayhem.

    • gamal
      gamal
      March 9, 2018, 11:48 pm

      “by Dahri”

      I know it by heart, you didn’t even read your own book, how weak, utterly pathetic…

      I mean fuck me do you even know what alisraa is saying

      you may well have mercy, you may well but if you revert burn as you are now,

      it has nothing to do with owning shit, God is going to strip you of all you think you have what else you think this game of faith is? an ego trip no man it ain’t like that.

      we command the affluent

    • zaid
      zaid
      March 10, 2018, 4:41 pm

      Mayhem,

      Why would the Quran grant Jews anything if it considers them unbelievers (In Islam)!

      Let me explain to you the Islamic view on this subject.

      In Islam the Holy land were granted to god righteous people

      “And certainly We wrote in the Book after the reminder that (as for) the land, My righteous servants shall inherit it.”21:105 Quran (Shakir)

      The righteous people at a certain point were the followers of Moses who were oppressed by Pharoh because of their faith in the one true god.

      After the coming of Jesus and later Mohammad the righteous people to whom the land is granted would be the Muslims.

      “So when the promise for the first of the two came, We sent over you Our servants, of mighty prowess, so they went to and fro among the houses, and it was a promise to be accomplished.”17:5 Quran (shakir)

      “So when the second promise came (We raised another people) that they may bring you to grief and that they may enter the mosque as they entered it the first time, and that they might destroy whatever they gained ascendancy over with utter destruction.”17:7 Quran (shakir)

  17. TerryHeaton
    TerryHeaton
    March 7, 2018, 10:03 am

    Again, folks, the real threat here is the Evangelicals in America who want to “encourage” the apocalypse, because they believe Jesus will return thereafter or just before. And, we should also note that references to the land “belonging” to the Jews are all conditional and based on Israel’s maintaining a state of righteousness before God. It’s here where their behavior towards the Palestinians is pertinent.

  18. genesto
    genesto
    March 7, 2018, 12:57 pm

    OK, so I’m going to ask the question again but, as before, expect this post to be removed once the censor(s) see it. Here goes. If the Torah, as I understand it, says that God promised Judea and Samaria to the Israelites, how is there not a connection between Judaism and Zionism? And, if there is, why WOULDN’T the Palestinians reject the Torah?

    Please help me here. I honestly want to be enlightened on this.

    • Joshua Laskin
      Joshua Laskin
      March 7, 2018, 3:38 pm

      Each Jew can read the Old Book, by him/herself, and take away whatever seems relevant. Sure, some Jews find a real-estate deed; but that’s what they’re looking for. Early USAmericans found God’s approval of chattel slavery. So what? That’s not ‘Judaism’; that’s only: a very old book, containing ancient ideas. Nazis could easily have found God’s approval of genocide, there, if needed. Maybe they did. Puritans of the Massachusetts Colony certainly did. It’s an historically-interesting tome, filled with some beautiful poetry and lots of crazy old crap. It’s a book, written/edited by many different people, who told the truest myths they could imagine, in their time. The Palestinian ‘Arabs’–who are possibly descendants of the biblical ‘Israelites’–reject European occupiers; which they’d do, regardless of which foreign settler-colonialists showed up. If some folks believe that God wants them to possess other people’s land; that’s a big problem, for everybody else. Everyone can believe whatever they want; but, if they make trouble, they’ll get trouble. As the Old Book says, “Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.” AIPAC’s clearly asking for it; and, no doubt, God will accommodate.

      • Maghlawatan
        Maghlawatan
        March 7, 2018, 4:32 pm

        Occupation has destroyed the myth of Jews as a holy nation and a people set apart. The violence needed to maintain the status quo is very trailer park.

      • genesto
        genesto
        March 7, 2018, 6:53 pm

        I totally get what you say. But, my point is to challenge the notion that Judaism is separate and distinct from Zionism. I believe you’ve helped me make my case that it isn’t. Sure, there are progressive Jews that renounce this particular passage in the Old Testament. But, many more do use it as justification for the crimes of ethnic cleansing, whether or not they personally believe it.

        After all, it’s in the Bible!

  19. Ossinev
    Ossinev
    March 7, 2018, 1:58 pm

    @Ejay
    “I wonder how Zionists like Schumer determine which Ziosplanation to use on which day”

    It`s all down to Ziography. And ZioLebensraum.

    Schumer is an hilarious unhinged buffoon who really ought to read the Torah more carefully and realise that he is in serious breach of its tenets by not taking the opportunity to return to his beloved ancient Torah given Bibliland. Life is very comfy for Israeli Firsters in the US as in cake and eating – the thought of having to live up close and personal with all those Untermenschen Arabs and the reality of just being just another run of the mill Ziofreak in a society teeming with them is not good for self image don`t you know.

  20. Edward Q
    Edward Q
    March 7, 2018, 1:59 pm

    ” how is there not a connection between Judaism and Zionism?”

    The original Zionists were mostly secular and saw Zionism as akin to the nationalist movements popular in Europe at the time. They would trot out the “God promised” argument when it served their purposes. Jabotnisky’s revisionist Zionism may have had a religious basis.

    • inbound39
      inbound39
      March 7, 2018, 2:36 pm

      My understanding based on what I have read over the years is Zionist embraced Religion in order to increased their support base. They didn’t have the numbers alone to get a Jewish State through without larger global support so my feeling and view is that Zionists are not religion based. They will however call black white and white black if it promotes their cause. Supremacism and World Domination.

      • Edward Q
        Edward Q
        March 8, 2018, 12:38 am

        That is my understanding too. Zionists like Herzel were secular but the only argument available to them to justify expropriating Palestine was the religious one. This matter is discussed in the Zionist Connection by Alfred Lilienthal, if I remember correctly.

      • inbound39
        inbound39
        March 10, 2018, 2:35 am

        Yes, Edward Q, that is what I recall also…thankyou for refreshing my memory. Herzl also promoted Zionist using anti semitism to garnish sympathy globally for their cause.

      • MHughes976
        MHughes976
        March 10, 2018, 11:49 am

        There is no logical contradiction between thinking that Jews are a disruptive and dangerous presence in the Christian world – anti-S – and thinking that they deserve a state of their own somewhere else – Z. Herzl recognised this, I think. He still thought that the anti-S were horrible and ungrateful people. His main public justification for Z was not that it was God’s will but that it would benefit everyone, Jews and Palestinians at least, in an Altneuland. Only the benighted Euros would lose because the beneficial Jewish presence in their midst would be lost.

  21. Kathleen
    Kathleen
    March 7, 2018, 3:38 pm

    Schumer Palestine belongs to Jews because the “Torah says so” Forget what the international UN’s international body has said…the Israeli settlements on internationally recognized Palestinian land are illegal and a serious problem. The UN remember Chuck the very organization that created the 69 year old Israeli state

    The illegal settlements are not a problem because Schumer says so. Keep going down this path Schumer and the BDS movement will continue to grow by leaps and bounds. The apartheid state of Israel continues to be exposed.

  22. James Canning
    James Canning
    March 7, 2018, 6:21 pm

    Is Chuck Schumer claiming Israel was attacked in June 1967? Schumer knows this is false.

    • oldgeezer
      oldgeezer
      March 7, 2018, 9:30 pm

      @James

      Do you think that falsehood or any other bother any zionist? The entire criminal enterprise is based, and built, on lies.

  23. Kathleen
    Kathleen
    March 7, 2018, 10:55 pm

    Schumer and too many others in our congress should be required to sign up under FARA. Our Reps have to take an oath to protect the constitution. They have to promise to protect the country from enemies with in the country and without. A real problem when our Reps who take that oath are the enemy when it comes to foreign policy issues.

    Schumer pushed back hard against the Iran deal.

  24. chris_k
    chris_k
    March 8, 2018, 1:57 am

    1. Looking at news search engines, it appears that Schumer’s remarks of religiously decreed right to land based on a false statement of Muslims’ view of the Torah has been completely blacked out of the mainstream press. So the speech lives on in the minds of AIPAC members, readers of media labeled ‘fake news’ by Harvard and other establishments, and Youtube.

    2. In the run-up to Schumer’s first election as Senate Democrat leader, I was looking to see if anyone would challenge him. The justification for not challenging him was that he and House Leader Pelosi were the lifeline to Democratic donors. What’s happened recently is that Republicans have copied Sanders’ and Obama’s early practice of raising large amounts from small donations and are drastically outraising Democrats using these methods. Haim Saban said a few years ago that Israel was his top issue and ‘if I’m not the top Democratic donor, I’m going to cut my balls off.’ So DNC Chair Tomas Perez, Schumer, and Pelosi have had the function of maintaining the power of pro-Israel funders while numerous articles, quoting Dem organizers nationwide, have criticized Perez’ DNC for being outraised by the RNC.

  25. JLewisDickerson
    JLewisDickerson
    March 9, 2018, 12:42 pm

    RE: “Of course, we say it’s our land, the Torah says it, but they don’t believe in the Torah. So that’s the reason there is not peace.” ~ Schumer

    MY COMMENT: What’s best for peace? Should I believe in Common Grace, Divine Grace, Irresistible Grace, Prevenient Grace, or Free Grace,? Pelagianism, Semipelagianism, or Synergism? Boxers or Briefs? What about Total Depravity? Just between us, I’m not very keen on Calvin. Predestination is just a bridge too far.

  26. Danaa
    Danaa
    March 11, 2018, 7:19 pm

    As always, I am late to the party, but couple of comments anyways:

    1. I don’t think the real issue here is young jewish people’s estrangement from israel. Yes, that is an “issue’ to the AIPAC crowd and to the likes of Schumer, but I see a much larger cloud hovering over the entire country AND the threat to the American constitution and its democratic institutions that the pro-israelites zealot lobbies represent.

    Let’s say it like it is (for once): AIPAC is hate-mongering, bigoted and outright racist institution. It is there to corrupt the American governance system through its myriad of sub-lobbies using a combination of threats, entreaties and bribes.

    In that, it is more like a traditional MAFIA like organization, using very similar tactics, even if they specialize in character, assassination (rather than the more physical elimination techniques the Mafia preferred).

    Which leads to the obvious question: why is it even legal to allow an AIPAC conference where its main message revolves around sowing hatred and monger for wars against some “un-washed’ citizens of select countries who failed to appreciate the “Torah” (what’s that anyways? can Schumer explain please?).

    Why is it even permitted for American lawmakers to speak at their conference? why is the racism and bigottry tolerated from the participants? what would we say if Schumer etc. spoke at a Big Pharma conference advocating drug monopolies and unleashing more opioids upon the population? would he get positive press of any kind?

    And would it be OK for the likes of Schumer – or paul Ryan – or any Republican – to speak in fron of the KKK conference? would they be OK parading with the equivalent of white hoods through the streets of DC, holding torches and calling for the lynching of Iranians, lebanese, or Syrians or palestinians?

    2. The fight as it is shaping up is not about the hearts and souls of younger jews but for the heart and soul of the US, where free speech has constitutional protection. Just a couple days ago Blumenthal was speaking about the effort to silence Al-Jazzerah (and not just him). Several red states passed first-amendment-baiting laws against BDS. Schumer is calling effectively for a mcCarthyist witch hunt against BDS supporters from all angles, jews and otherwise, through a congress passed law that’d curtail free speech. Yet, most democrat establishment types, if not all, are silent about this.

    All this is taking place against a background of extreme Russophobia whipped up mostly by Democrats. And therein lies a still greater danger.

    So, younger jews, who mostly track with progressive ideas (call it “Bernie-like” for now) are moving away from the democratic establishment. Along the way, strange friendships between left and right are being struck. tense friendships, to be sure, but something like embryonic alliances that focus on economic justice and anti-interventionism before identity issues. I have been witnessing strange things lately across the land. A peculiar openness on the part of those on the Right we used to despise. An even more peculiar tone-deafness on what we once called “left”. I followed some of Carlson Tucker’s recent programs, and am shocked – shocked! – at how “progressive” he sounds on some issues (of course not all. And not always, but some sure beats the none we see from the usual quarters).

    Into these new fissures the Israeli and Jewish lobbies step. Along the way, as they descend ever faster into the pit where ethics go to die, they are becoming legitimate targets for populists from both sides of the aisle. Not because they are regressive., which they are. But because they have become entirely identified with establishment politics, big money and corruption of the government through lobbies that care only about their own narrow interests. It is not hard to convince some right leaners (who are not of the Christian zionist ilk) that AIPAC is Big Israel, just like Big Pharma, and Big Agro and Big MIC (Military-Industrial Complex).

    I have raised the question of AIPAC in some quarters and find ithe responses are not as negative or quick to draw guns – or quick to withdraw – as was true before. I would raise some obvious questions: how would we feel if, say, a Japanese American lobby group that is dedicated to keeping parts of Korea Japanese, came and held a conference in DC, and rained fire and brimstone upon those hapless non-shinto believing Koreans who refuse to accept Japanese ancestral rights in the Korean peninsula (which they are reputed to have if one goes back far enough. The reverse is true too, but never mind that)?

    Many more such comparisons can be thought of – from Africaans who are descendants of the boors, to Turks who seek to explain why Armenians just had to be driven out and why it was not a genocide, because they say it wasn’t. Like the palestinians in ’48, them Armenians just upped and left. Why was it Turkey’s fault that many died on the way? the high mortality rate is simply the result of there not being a UN refugee support organization, so there. Besides, it’s against Turkish Law to even mention Armenian “genocide, so anyone who does is anti-Turk

    I run these comparisons by people sometimes (when I get the chance, and always after dinner…when people are less inclined to jump up and down. I, of course, am always so inclined….). It seems to me that some headway is being made, though of course, my respondents are not erudite, all-knowing east coast know-it-alls, so perhaps to them it’s just musac (never mind that. Subliminal stuff works!).

    OK, comment got too long. Stop here – take up another day.

    • ritzl
      ritzl
      March 12, 2018, 1:56 pm

      In “Schumer-speak” “Land of the Rising Sun” = QED and/or Carte Blanche and/or “What’s all the fuss about anyway?”

      Great comment Danaa.

  27. CHUCKMAN
    CHUCKMAN
    March 12, 2018, 9:53 am

    “Schumer and Dems outdo Trump at AIPAC”

    “Outdo” is an understatement.

    “there’s no peace because ‘Palestinians don’t believe in Torah’”?

    It’s almost beyond belief that a senior Senator of the world’s most powerful nation says something like that in public.

    What is the name of God do ancient religious documents have to do with affairs of state 2500 years later?

    Since when do religious documents get cited by a government which is secular and legally allows freedom both of, and from, religion?

    Why aren’t the Greeks citing Homer to the Turks?

    At least that would be more intelligent than citing ancient religious mumbo-jumbo.

    • RoHa
      RoHa
      March 12, 2018, 8:53 pm

      “Why aren’t the Greeks citing Homer to the Turks?”

      Homer’s first blockbuster was a story about the war in which the Greeks invaded and destroyed a city in what is now Turkey. His second followed the further adventures of the commander who planned and and led the fall of the city. Might not be tactful.

  28. ritzl
    ritzl
    March 12, 2018, 1:50 pm

    Does Schumer really intend to or want to go down the, “My book says I can do what I want” road?

    It’s difficult to imagine a more dangerous political line. I’ll skip the analogies.

    This contention should be rejected utterly, and condemned loudly and often by all people. But it won’t.

    If I was Jewish this would scare the crap out of me. Heh, I’m not Jewish and it still scares the crap out of me.

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