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Malcolm Hoenlein on fostering Jewish power, inoculating 5-year-olds for Israel, and preventing intermarriage

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Earlier this year Malcolm Hoenlein announced that he will step down as executive vice president of the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations, though he will stay in office as the group looks for his replacement. Hoenlein, 73, is one of the most powerful Jews in America. When Barack Obama wanted to name Hillary Clinton as secretary of state, he reached out to Hoenlein first.

In recent months, the Jewish leader has given interviews and speeches (posted online, links below) that convey his generational world view. Hoenlein’s parents escaped Germany but his grandparents were killed in the Holocaust; and Hoenlein’s core beliefs are: The importance of Jewish power to save Jews; the importance of Jewish unity to maintain that power and produce miracles in Israel. Hoenlein is baffled by young Jews’ indifference to his causes. His response is that we have to “inoculate our kids younger and younger” — as early as five — so that they understand why the news features pictures “of an Israeli killing a kid or an adult.”

Here are some of Hoenlein’s statements. On the Holocaust forming his belief in Jewish power:

I know how strongly I was influenced by the Shoah, and from the time I was ten or eleven years I got involved politically because I believed that only when Jews could have control of their own fate and future and understood the political process and got involved–as Abba Eban said, In World War Two, Jews had influence in many places but power in none. I knew that Jewish power was the key to our survival. And I remember my parents getting the telegram that my grandparents had been killed. As a very young child when those yellow telegrams came and those of our neighbors and others who received them, I know it made a lasting impact. So much of what I have done is to avoid another situation where Jews will live at the sufferance of others, that Jews will not determine their own fate.

On Jewish unity as a key to Jewish action:

Nobody [in the Soviet Jewry movement] cared who was orthodox, reform or conservative.  We understood that… achdus [unity in Hebrew] is the one precondition to every great miracle that happened to the Jewish people, and achdus is not attained by putting labels on people, but by finding the common aspirations, the common hopes, common drive that people have and building on that. It’s not what differentiates us, it’s what unites us, and that’s when we succeed.

The fact is that on ninety percent of the issues we can find a common ground. If you understand, most people whether they are extreme left or extreme right whatever stream, most of them…are all motivated by a commitment to the Jewish people… I really believe in klal Yisrael [all of Israel]. I really believe that our strength lies in building together… The whole is far greater than the sum of its parts.

On his relationship with U.S. politicians:

I have never leaked any of the stories. I maintain the confidence of the people we deal with. Presidents of the United States have told me the most incredible things, that I could have made a lot of headlines with…So one morning you get a headline, the next day you have no access. It’s very important the lessons we have learned over the years about How do you deal with power. You respect power, you don’t worship power. Power is not an end in itself. But if I can just say, To me Jewish power is sacred. That’s the lesson from the Shoah. To me Jewish power is like a muscle. If you exercise it right you build it up. If you abuse it, you destroy it.

On assimilation, and the need to find positive causes for young Jews that bind them to Israel:

Every day we’re losing 100s and 100s of Jews, young Jews in particular. Every single day. That’s the biggest danger…

[Young Jews] drove the movements. Today we put them down, they’re marginalized in a large respects in our community. We have to find ways to capitalize, no matter what their political views are…. We should have something for everyone that draws them to the community…. They are looking for content. We can’t condemn all the ones who have strayed away. We have to think about why they have strayed…What have we not done? What is it we have failed to provide in our education?

You cant just send kids on Birthright– and I’m a big supporter of Birthright– at the age of 18, and ignore the first 17 years of their lives and think they’re going to be OK. It’s not Israel’s responsibility to make up for our failures. Israel is the inspiration. Israel is what unites us. I still believe that Israel is a positive value. The problem is that we try to shuttle off some of our failures on to Israel. Oh they’re responsible for the alienation of our youth. No, they’re not, we’re responsible….[We need] to bring back our youth, to challenge them. To give them ways they can find expression within the larger community. Find causes for them, whether domestic causes, international causes.

On his program to stop intermarriage:

I have tried for years, since prime minister Sharon, to get Israel to undertake, a World Jewish singles event here. There are a million Jewish singles in America, a million Jewish singles here [in Israel], tens of thousands in Europe, who will never meet a Jewish mate. Bring them here, build Jewish families! His answer to me was, Oh you’ll have yeridah [Jews leaving Israel for other countries]. I said, you’ll have aliyah! [Jews moving to Israel]. How do you know– make Israel attractive and we’ll keep them here. They’ll find jobs, they’ll find mates. But if not, at least you’ll have Jewish families.

On teaching American Jews at 6 about Israel to counter the images of Israelis killing people:

Find me something that teaches a 6 year old or a 7 year old about what’s going on. Because they see the television reports. They see the news reports. Whoever tells them that that picture of an Israeli killing a kid or an adult– they absorb those images…  This is really important to me. The Catholic church says give me a kid till he’s six, you can have them the rest of their lives. We have to start not just with high school students or college  students, we have to start with them in elementary school and younger, provide them with positive views of Israel, talk to them about Israel. You’d be shocked how much of the views they ultimately express are shaped in those early years. We don’t do it, we have ignored them.

On inoculating children against Israel hatred by explaining the violence on television. “Start in kindergarten”:

We have to deal with the question of assimilation and the indifference that we find amongst our young people, let alone increasing hostility on our campuses because they fall victim to extremist professors or movements. Because they don’t know, and they don’t have the confidence in their ability to respond to these false charges, to these allegations, to these libels. So we have to do more. Start younger. Start in kindergarten. Start in elementary schools. Educate our kids. Parents take time. Explain to them what they see on television. Give them context to understand what this is about. Talk to them about Israel’s amazing contributions, about what Israeli society is about, What they have done to improve the lives of people, through pharma through med-tech….the number of inventions second only to the United States…. To tell the positive story about Israel to them. To give them the sense that Israel is not just about wars. Because that’s what they see. They see the negatives on television. And nobody sits with an eight year old, a ten year old, to explain it to them. And we pay the price ten years later. So we have to inoculate our kids younger and younger. And parents, take them to Israel but that’s not enough!…

We win most often on campuses on BDS, but our kids are affected by it. They see the propaganda, they see the hatred, and they can get turned off. We see that they don’t so much turn against Israel as they turn toward indifference. … We can’t afford to lose them in support of Israel…. We have to do more to get our young people to understand the relationship to Israel, what Israel has to offer them, and what they have to offer Israel.

On Jewish unity and miracles:

I’m not an ideologue, I’m not ideologically oriented. I really believe in klal Israel… because I believe in bringing the unity of the Jewish people to fruition. That that is the one great precondition for every miracle that happened to the Jewish people. Also unity means  also between Israel and the United States, the American Jewry and Diaspora Jewry generally with the people of Israel.

American Jews have no right to criticize Israel’s security arrangements because we are shareholders not partners:

So the divisions [among Jews] are really artificial to a degree. Sure there are ideological positions, there are religious differences. There are differences in principle. And we should respect that and recognize that. What unites us far overwhelms that: the importance of Israel to all of us. None of us has a right to denigrate Israel’s security, Israel’s stnding. We can disagree with it, You can criticize some of the policies of Israel. It doesn’t make you an anti-semite, or anti-Israel. But to deny it’s right– to endanger it, we don’t have that right. We are not equal partners. We are share holders in Israel. If you live there and you send your children to fight, and if you pay half your income in taxes, then you’re an equal partner with Israel.

A few comments. Hoenlein’s views are generational not just because they reflect an idealism about Israel that has long faded from the front pages; but because he remembers his own youth movement fondly as a rebellion– defying the then-passive Jewish leadership and making outspoken Jewish demands during the 1967 War and Yom Kippur War and the fight for Soviet Jewry– even as he refuses to acknowledge today’s rebel Jewish movements, IfNotNow and Jewish Voice for Peace, young Jews who want to end his subservient relationship to a militant discriminatory state. But Hoenlein is retiring; they’re coming into the scene. And they don’t like the “Jewish establishment.”

On a related point, Hoenlein’s passion about Jewish unity is authoritarian: he cannot acknowledge the diversity within his own ranks. When Mark Golub asked him about Ron Lauder’s op-ed in the New York Times challenging Israel’s leadership, Hoenlein refused to discuss it.

And when asked about President Trump’s Jerusalem announcement last December in an interview, Hoenlein presumed to speak for the Jewish community in support of Trump:

Across the board there’s been consensus, acceptance, appreciation for what the president said. Even the Reform movement has come aboard. Of course everybody accepts the idea. Initially they expressed some reservations about the timing, but even that has been modified.

This is a misrepresentation. Reform Jews rejected Trump’s move at the time, though they did come on board after a week or two. But Americans for Peace Now, a member of Hoenlein’s Conference of Presidents, said angrily that the move sabotaged peace, and Peace Now has stuck to that position. So Hoenlein is ignoring a leftwing organization in his own shop, which has been vehemently opposed to his own statements. I can’t understand why Peace Now agrees to pay his salary on such terms, except that they actually believe his larger lesson, Jewish unity makes Jewish miracles. Maybe the next generation of leftleaning Jews will see the breakup of this order.

Links to interviews below.

 

 

 

 

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  1. eljay
    eljay
    October 17, 2018, 1:03 pm

    achdus [unity in Hebrew] is the one precondition to every great miracle that happened to the Jewish people, and achdus is not attained by putting labels on people, but by finding the common aspirations, the common hopes, common drive that people have and building on that. It’s not what differentiates us, it’s what unites us

    This guy is funny: Finding the commonalities and building on them is what unites people, so the best thing for Jews to do is to label themselves and others and differentiate themselves from others in order to minimize unity with others.

    • Marnie
      Marnie
      October 17, 2018, 11:26 pm

      The only unity in the ‘state of israel’ is the call to kill the other. That’s it. That’s why it’s going to crash and burn. If there were true unity, it would be a kinder society; it would protect the elderly, the vulnerable, the homeless. It would help the youth and provide free education for them so that all can achieve something instead of the select few (only 50% of israeli youth pass their matriculation exams in high school and that varies from city to city), they would concentrate on the future for their young people who would be tomorrow’s leaders and look for ways to be innovative in fields other than weapons of mass destruction. That’s okay though, they weren’t looking that far ahead back in 1948 and they don’t look any further than the tips of their noses now. Karma is going to be a bitch.

      • chocopie
        chocopie
        October 19, 2018, 6:54 am

        The same can be said about USA unfortunately. And the divisions are becoming more and more visible.

      • Marnie
        Marnie
        October 19, 2018, 8:14 am

        It’s going to be horrible from the look of things so far.

  2. Marnie
    Marnie
    October 17, 2018, 1:10 pm

    Losing 100s and 100s of co-religionists?

    How would people like Hoenlein have ever overcome the history of slavery, reconstruction, Jim Crow, segregation and still segregation, not to mention targeted assasinations by police and the everyday racism that most of us could not even begin to comprehend and the constant menace of the white female calling police ‘because a black man/woman/child’ is in her neighborhood/pool/grocery store/street corner/block. Cry me a river. No shame in the victim game.

  3. annie
    annie
    October 17, 2018, 1:45 pm

    Because they see the television reports. They see the news reports. Whoever tells them that that picture of an Israeli killing a kid or an adult– they absorb those images

    the news doesn’t feature pictures of an israeli killing a kid or an adult. it’s more abstract than that, like maybe long distance airstrikes. when was the last time the msm showed a clip of a soldier taking aim and killing a palestinian? doesn’t really happen. our national media is designed to protect israel’s image, not just for jewish children, but for all americans. look at all the clips available of protestors getting slaughtered in gaza during the great return march, when does our msm show those clips? anyone seen one on msm?

    I’m not an ideologue, I’m not ideologically oriented. I really believe in klal Israel

    he’s in denial.

    i wonder who they will choose to replace him.

    • Misterioso
      Misterioso
      October 18, 2018, 10:40 am

      @annie, et al

      Guaranteed to bring a smile to your face and make you even more determined to defeat the Zionists and end their racist/fascistic brutal dispossession, oppression and occupation of Palestinian Arabs, the indigenous inhabitants of the lands between the River and the Sea.

      Video:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq72xm26PjQ&feature=share

      “It Is Called ‘Apartheid'” – Rep. McCollum Speech at USCPR National Conference”

      USCPR, Oct 12, 2018

      “‘The world has a name for the form of government that is codified in the Nation-State Law – it is called ‘apartheid.'” Congresswoman Betty McCollum made history at our 2018 national conference, Together We Rise, when she became the first Member of Congress to call it like it is!

      “USCPR was honored to present the Congressional Leadership Award to Rep. McCollum for her spearheading of the first-ever bill in Congress that advances Palestinian rights: HR 4391, the Promoting Human Rights by Ending Israeli Military Detention of Palestinian Children Act.”

      Learn more about the bill: uscpr.org/end-child-detention

      • Marnie
        Marnie
        October 18, 2018, 12:08 pm

        Stay strong Betty McCollum – that was thrilling to hear the truth out loud from a member a u.s. congresswoman! She is a shining example for all –

    • Mooser
      Mooser
      October 18, 2018, 4:45 pm

      “i wonder who they will choose to replace him.”

      Shouldn’t be too hard. They will have to find someone who can reverse all the demographic and social trends among Jewish people. And fire up the young to take on all the conflicts, grudges and fears of Zionism as their own. How hard can that be?

  4. John O
    John O
    October 17, 2018, 3:31 pm

    “The Catholic church says give me a kid till he’s six, you can have them the rest of their lives.”

    Didn’t work with me. OK, I have a Master’s in Guilt, but apart from that, nada.

  5. Maghlawatan
    Maghlawatan
    October 17, 2018, 4:21 pm

    Hoenlein is another old fart who has suddenly woken up to the fact that Zionism is gonorrhea to young American Jews.

  6. bcg
    bcg
    October 17, 2018, 5:11 pm

    It’s so peculiar – in all the stuff he says there doesn’t seem to be the smallest mention of those other people – millions of them – who are hanging around the Jewish State, as if they don’t really exist.

  7. Keith
    Keith
    October 17, 2018, 6:10 pm

    PHIL- (Hoenlein quote)- “To me Jewish power is sacred.”

    Perhaps the most clear and concise expression of the essence of Jewish Zionism. All else flows from this. Power-seeking through focused kinship solidarity. All else a means to this end. Israel/Zionism uber alles.

  8. Misterioso
    Misterioso
    October 18, 2018, 9:54 am

    Not precisely on topic, but a must read:

    More wisdom from Professor Lawrence Davidson:

    Blog: http://www.tothepointanalyses.com

    “Israel’s ‘Psychological Obstacles to Peace’—An Analysis” (16 October 2018) by Professor Lawrence Davidson

    “Part I—Understanding is Not Excusing”
    “There is a difference between understanding and excusing. I might understand the arguments of Donald Trump and John Bolton, but by virtue of that very understanding I find their arguments inexcusable. The same goes for the arguments of the Israeli leadership and their diaspora allies. I hear their words and find that they can never excuse their actions.

    “Given this difference between understanding and excusing, it’s hard to know what to do with efforts to have us understand the ‘psychological obstacles’ that supposedly prevent Israelis from making peace. A good example of this effort is found in a reprinted essay by Carlo Strenger, an Israeli psychologist and public intellectual who is a strong opponent of the Occupation. It appears in the Israeli newspaper Haaretz and is titled ‘Psychological Obstacles to Peace in Israel.’

    “Though Strenger is an Israeli peace activist, his essay is really an effort to move the reader to take more seriously— to better understand—Israeli feelings of ‘existential’ fear when it comes to prospects for peace with the Palestinians. Such understanding will, allegedly, bring us to ‘acknowledge that moving toward peace entails genuine security risks [for Israeli Jews], and to address these risks unflinchingly.’ One suspects that this line has long been fed to the U.S. Congress, among others governments. In any case, for Strenger, this is the sine qua non for peace.

    “Part II—Professor Strenger’s Obstacles”
    “Strenger describes three Israeli ‘psychological obstacles to peace’ that can only be overcome by such an ‘unflinching’ effort based on sympathetic understanding. I do not think he means to offer these obstacles as excuses for over fifty years of Israeli wars and occupation, but unfortunately, in the end it comes through that way. Perhaps that is an expression of the dilemma faced by most Israeli ‘moderates.’ Here are Strenger’s obstacles:

    “(1) The concept of ‘loss-aversion’—the assertion that people ‘are far more guided by fear of loss than by the prospect of gain.’ Strenger tells us that average Israelis are afraid to risk the loss of territorial ‘assets,’ which they identify with both national security and religious tradition, for the gains that might come with peace. It is an alleged natural bias for the status quo. Strenger goes on to say that the Palestinians are responsible for this Israeli fear of peace due to their violence during the second Intifada and the rocket attacks from Gaza. That Israel itself created the historical conditions for these Palestinian acts of resistance is not considered by Strenger.

    There are problems with the loss-aversion thesis. One is that individual assessments of the loss/gain risk are subjective. In other words, in the case of Israeli fears, there have been decades of government propaganda downplaying prospects for peace and Palestinian as well as Arab efforts at compromise—for instance, the outright lie that the Israelis have no one to negotiate with on the Palestinian side. This has been paralleled by a continuous playing up of the alleged security risks of withdrawal from occupied territories. The result is a psychological context that magnifies a national aversion to the loss of security that may come from peace. Put another way, Israeli leaders have produced an artificial political and psychological environment that identifies national security with the avoidance of peace. All Israeli governments have played this propaganda game because all of them have been and still are more interested in land than peace.

    “(2) Strenger’s second psychological obstacle is Israel’s ‘inability to let go of Zionism as a revolutionary movement.’ The surprising point here is that he confines ‘the revolutionary movement’ aspect of Zionism to the post-1967 war period. Thus, he tells us ‘the history of Israel’s occupation and gradual colonization of the West Bank cannot be understood without the religious-Zionist movement that emerged from the 1967 war.’ However, just like the notion of loss aversion, this assertion is misleading. Limiting Zionism’s aggressive expansion, and its accompanying notion of territorial destiny, only to fanatic settlers is just wrong. It was secular Labor Party leaders and military officers who started the Occupation after the 1967 war, and they were (and many probably still are) as reluctant to let go of that territory as any wild-eyed Israeli religious fundamentalist.

    “(3) Finally, the third psychological obstacle put forth by Strenger is ‘a need to justify the occupation.’ Didn’t we just go through this with loss aversion? Yes. But he wants us to understand that justifying the Occupation also means justifying the guilt that he knows must go along with it. He explains, ‘almost every Israeli in the last 47 years has done military service in the territories. Almost all of them have had to do things that go against human decency and morality—often not for the sake of Israel’s security at large, but to protect some isolated outpost of settlers.’ Giving up the territories for peace would be like an admission that it was all for naught, and according to Strenger, ‘this idea is too difficult to bear, and the regret would be unendurable.’ This need for denial then underpins the need to see the Occupation as ‘necessary for Israel’s survival.’

    “While phrases like ‘too difficult to bear’ and ‘the regret would be unbearable’ are exaggerations, I can understand this argument. It is the same as the argument that the Vietnam War was fought to keep the United States free. Many Americans still cling to this myth. As Strenger notes, it makes both sacrifices and sins appear justified. Yet, in the long run, not facing one’s guilt only poisons both individual and national lives. We can already see this happening within Israeli society.

    “There are other problems with Strenger’s understanding of Israeli psychological obstacles. He approaches them in a one-dimensional fashion, as if there is not another relevant party to these traumas. Yet Israeli fears about peace are indelibly tied to the Palestinian demand for justice. Indeed, the more we ‘understand’ Israeli fears and accommodate them, the more we are forced to ignore the Palestinians’ psychological and material need for justice. And, justice for the Palestinians is yet another sine qua non for peace.

    “Finally, Strenger fails to realize that the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is not just about the Occupation. His own endgame is tied to the maintenance of Israel as a ‘Jewish democratic state’ within the 1967 borders. Yet the concept of a Jewish democratic state is actually a contradiction in terms. You cannot have a democracy for just one select group put down amidst a large population of ‘others.’ That road leads to apartheid. Whether Strenger likes it or not we are now well past the time for a ‘two-state solution.’

    “Part III—The Need for Coercion
    “It is not just the prospect of two states that is gone. The ‘peace process’ itself is also long dead. Thus, reason has been displaced and we are thrown back on the need for coercion—just as was the case when confronting apartheid South Africa.

    “At this stage the aim of coercion is not the withdrawal of Israel from the Occupied Territories. Rather, it is forcing Israeli adherence to international law through the abandonment of the racist ideology of Zionism and the corresponding restrictive notion of rights. If Professor Strenger is in any way typical, most Israeli peace activists will not be able to push the issue this far. However, those few who do have come to the conclusion, as have most Palestinians, that they will need a lot of outside help to accomplish this task.

    This is made clear in a recent interview (22 September 2018) with the Israeli peace activist Miko Peled. Peled, the son of an Israeli general, argues that we are at a point in the conflict when ‘only a focused and well coordinated strategy to delegitimize and bring down the Zionist regime can bring justice to Palestine.’ Peled’s aim is the creation of ‘a single democracy with equal rights on all of historic Palestine.’ This is the same goal of most Palestinians. Currently the best strategy to move in this direction entails an international effort to isolate Israel and stigmatize its racist ideology. Right now this is embodied in the BDS movement—Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions. Peled believes that ‘BDS is the perfect form of resistance available.’ He calls its supporters to ’embrace it fully, work hard, demand the expulsion of all Israeli diplomats and total isolation of Israel.’ He also recognizes that this will be a ‘slow process.’

    “There seems to be no other choice. And it really does not matter that part of the reason we are at this point are those ‘existentialist’ fears of many Israelis. Those fears are certainly no excuse for the destruction of Palestine, its people and culture, and international law as well. However, if they are sufficient to preclude the use of reason to end to the conflict, then it will have to be coercion—administered worldwide for as long as it takes.

    Lawrence Davidson
    [email protected]

    Blog: http://www.tothepointanalyses.com

    • annie
      annie
      October 18, 2018, 12:08 pm

      Misterioso, counter punch has just published davidson’s review of carlo strenger’s 2014 essay. strenger positions himself as “left” or “liberal”, a person who often explains, excuses and rationalizes the right wing viewpoint for the sake of this left, so they may better understand where the right is coming from, and davidson calls him “moderate”.

      so right out of the ballpark davidson gives him that with “I do not think he means to offer these obstacles as excuses for over fifty years of Israeli wars and occupation”, when that is exactly what i see. strenger has made a career of punching left (see “The self-righteous left’s simplistic world” https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2009/jul/28/israel-free-speech-middle-east, and “Why I celebrate the Tel Aviv centenary” https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2009/oct/15/israel-palestinian-territories in which he states he is “committed to ending” the occupation. however, his commitment seems limited to getting the left admit their culpability and assuage the fears of the right). davidson also references strenger as a “peace activist”, where’s the evidence of that?

      in strenger’s world israel’s right wing stands strong in the center of his reality, and everything circulates around that reality. he presents their “fears” and “loss aversion” which make it “almost impossible for Israel is move towards peace” as central. what also makes it “impossible” is to “accept that you have been mistaken for decades” and he lauds the “human strength” to admit “their jobs made them do terrible things” which were “immoral”. and not only that, this human strength required to admit their failings,

      For most humans, it is almost impossible to do terrible things and live with the realization that these acts were immoral.

      so why does he centralize everything around this right wing viewpoint? why does he understand their fears? because that’s where he’s coming from, this is why he punches left over and over. and this is why he requires nothing of the right, but tasks the left with assuaging the right “addresses Israelis’ existential fears without flinching”. it is not our task to address anyones fears, as if those fears somehow supersede those being literally hunted down, children yanked from their bed at night.

      davidson’s finale is encouraging. it’s time throw the “existential fears” of the occupier into the waste bin of history where they belong. it’s propaganda. strenger, the “psychologist, philosopher, existential psychoanalyst”, will no doubt continue explaining the right wing for us, while deluding himself he’s part of a left, which only in israel would be considered left. even in his most recent op ed, he says of the left “The bottom line is that we must become more modest in our goals” https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-days-of-atonement-for-israeli-liberals-1.6470590 , he says things like:

      Isn’t it true, as Moshe Arens has long argued, that in all instances in which Israel showed willingness to compromise, the Arabs have only responded with violence?

      he does what he always does. he’s a relic with a veneer of reasonableness (and no doubt strenger thinks he is reasonable), yet forever tampering down the aspirations of the left while claiming he’s part of them.

  9. JaapBo
    JaapBo
    October 18, 2018, 10:00 am

    So Israeli security is holy!
    But for Israel “security”has most of the time been the excuse for ethnic cleansing, stealing land, and oppressing legitimate Palestinian resistance, in short for its racism!
    Of course, for Hoenlein it’s impossible to face up to this, the inbuilt hypocrisy of Zionism.

  10. Ossinev
    Ossinev
    October 18, 2018, 10:41 am

    All very reminiscent of fundamental Nazi programming – you know kindergaten onwards indoctrination followed in due course by strict industrial scale marriage between certified”pure” Jewish stock.

    The fact that a supposedly senior and supposedly wise member of a Jewish community can openly spew out this racism speaks volumes about the vileness underlying Zionism and the fact that these rabid old racist patriarchs are waking up to the reality that it is 2018 not 1948 and that their Jewish grandchildren have got consciences to go with their laptops and smartphones and are simply not prepared to toe the Zioline.

    Loved the “shareholders” bit . No question of divided loyalty or Israel First in his warped mentality. It`s just like one giant multi – national Zionist corporation with all Diaspora Jews being automatically entitled to free shares don`t you know.

    • Mooser
      Mooser
      October 19, 2018, 12:39 pm

      ” with all Diaspora Jews being automatically entitled to free shares don`t you know”

      That was, in essence, the easy understanding. But then Israel passed the “Nation-State Law”.

  11. Elizabeth Block
    Elizabeth Block
    October 18, 2018, 11:00 am

    Hoenlein is a little behind the times.
    He and I are of the same generation. For Jews like us, Zionism was the default position. But that was when Israel was known for, you know, making the desert bloom. Now it is known for bombing children and snipers killing unarmed demonstrators.
    When he and I were children, kids didn’t watch these horrors on TV. (We watched Howdy Doody and Disneyland.) Now they do, even kindergarteners. They may be young, but they’re not stupid.

  12. Citizen
    Citizen
    October 18, 2018, 1:41 pm

    Re: “American Jews have no right to criticize Israel’s security arrangements because we are shareholders not partners.”

    Such ignorance of basic American law: A shareholder can sue his corporation directly or by derivative suit.

  13. Citizen
    Citizen
    October 18, 2018, 1:52 pm

    RE: “The Catholic church says give me a kid till he’s six, you can have them the rest of their lives. ”
    This saying is attributed to the Jesuits, Soviet leader Lenin, and Nazi propagandist Goebbels.

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