Scott McConnell comments on Bush’s promise of giving-up golf while the war’s on:
There’s also a more complicated sociological point to be made here: that the WASP establishment which ran the country’s foreign policy rather decently in the years after World War II has been nudged from the central halls of power, and one is now more likely to find its scions working on their handicaps or plotting elaborate middle age man getaways to this historic courses of Scotland than clawing their way up the ranks of the foreign affairs intelligentsia.
I agree, and wonder why there isn’t any journalism on the subject of the new establishment. The answer, my friend, is: the fear of another Holocaust if we talk about Jewish power. So journalists betray their mission of informing the public on the grounds that the public is not to be trusted, and then tell themselves that the public is too stupid to notice this anyway. But people aren’t too stupid. They know that significant changes have taken place in the sociocultural makeup of the establishment, especially the foreign-affairs branch; but they get little information about it, and the result is that commenters on my blog can claim that Jews run America, when obviously it’s not that simple…
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"Turning black into white". Yes, exactly, but do they know they are doing it? I find my Jewish friends doing the same thing. Is it because they can't face the truth? Or do they know they are doing this but don't care that they are intellectually dishonest? This phenomenon is just so common.
In a certain sense it is human. You stick up for your team until you can't deny any longer that they stink. But even the Nixon supporters and the Viet Nam hawks had to finally give in to reality. What is amazing is how these Israel apologists never give up, no matter what the data is.
Nixon was a realist.
when he became president there were over 500K US troops in Vietnam. By 1972 there were 60,000. A 10,000 per month reduction.
He neogotiated SALT with the Russians.
He rapproched with the Chinese.
He tried to stand up to the Jewsih lobby. He failed. But he tried.
He slashed NASA's budget. It is not clear to me that that was a bad idea. How does sp[ace exploration benefit the ordinary American? Ok so it trains people for Star Wars–is that a good thing?
Nixon was the last pro white working class prez.
"I agree, and wonder why there isn't any journalism on the subject of the new establishment. The answer, my friend, is: the fear of another Holocaust if we talk about Jewish power."
power only fears a "holocaust" when it does not act in the public good or any good. the fear comes from its knowledge that its actions would be absolutely viewed as traitorous and evil and destructive. the fear should exist. evil should live in fear.
I don't believe it is fear of holocaust. I believe it is fear of loss of power. The holocaust fear is an essential ingredient of the whole nationalistic Jewish/Israel complex. It is what feeds it, supports it, makes the money, shuts people up. If anything "they" feed the holocaust fear, that fear going away would obviously be the worst possible thing for the Israel project.
I think this needs to be exposed and made clear. It is a manipulation of the public and the press and if we succumb we are toast. This is why Finkelstein should be applauded no matter his other irrationalities.
peters | May 15, 2008 at 10:17 AM
yes, the 'holocaust', the 'always the victim' the always near 'existenstial threat', is used for power, here, the west, and to permit israel whatever evil it wants.
"This is why Finkelstein should be applauded no matter his other irrationalities."
good should be appaulded. but eyes should be kept open. where deception is involved one should not let good silence one.
Interesting that always flashing The Holocaust card when Israel regime policy history is questioned depends on Western Gentile sense of fairness and group guilt for a blank check, while, simultanteously, Gentiles are never suppose to say, "What about the Palestinians? Is there no equal check for them?" And that, in the context of why the USA is hated in the world, which is not to our benefit.
Beyond campaign financing reform, which won't happen as the status quo will never fall on the honesty sword for the greater good, the big issue is America has no Edward R Murrow. That's the ancient past. Our Fourth Estate is nothing but a tweedledee-tweedledum propaganda machine. Just another donkey and elephant mixed noise.
The greatest betrayal is in the sins of ommission. It's not so much that AIPAC loud speakers don't have some justification in the gray scheme of reality things, but that if it were not for the weak internet voices, the same record spun over and over again is all you could hear.
Remember the Payola scam of the 45 rpm Fifties?
W & M, and Carter are banging out a tune, and its hard for them
to get on the radio air.
Elvis will come along. Nobody sees him yet.
Is he Obama?
I doubt it.
Still, there's the audacity of hope.
Elvis had to die his hair black.
"The holocaust fear is an essential ingredient of the whole nationalistic Jewish/Israel complex. It is what feeds it, supports it, makes the money, shuts people up."
But it goes far deeper than that.
Reports from Bush's trip to Israel (my headlines):
Bush declares Jews God's "chosen people," Israel their God-mandated homeland, vows US enforcement
http://ca.reuters.com/article/topNews/idCAL1593860120080515?sp=true
Bush, McCain say those willing to talk to Israel's enemies appeasers to "terrorists and radicals"
http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/05/15/america/prexy.php
The Neocons have taken the whole Jewish Zionist scam to another level, with the enthusiastic participation of plenty of Jews. The narrative goes something like this:
Neocon 1: "Hey, look how much the Zionists have been able to exploit the Holocaust. Its made them billions in "reparations," they've used it to badger and berate the entirety of Western civilization into submission and contraction, they've been able to implement institutional racialism under the guise of 'self-defense,' and they've even been able to perpetrate a slow genocide against the Palestinians under the world's gaze, silencing their critics merely by shouting 'anti-Semitism.' Wow, if the Zionists can do this all by 'defending Israel from another Holocaust,' imagine how many political points we could score, how much land we could conquer — and how much money we could make for ourselves — by using the same pretenses."
Neocon #2: "But the Jews would never allow it."
Neocon #1: "Didn't you hear a thing I just said? Not only will they allow it — they designed it!"
Neocon #2: "Oh, I get it. We join their ponzi scheme and escalate it. They provide the brains, and we provide the brawn in the person of the US milatary and the dumbed down, politically correct, Holocaust-indoctrinated American masses. Why, we'll all get rich!!! And even the Dems won't be able to object because there are so many Jewish Zionists in their ranks. Brilliant! Brilliant!"
Dancing shlomos,
What evidence do you have that finkelstein is a part of some plot? It seems a bit paranoid to me considering how angry he seems about everything. Honestly I'm interested.
"the result is that commenters on my blog can claim that Jews run America, when obviously it's not that simple…"
No, it isn't that simple. A claque of Jews, Judaized "Christians," and their fellow money-worshiping, dialectical materialist corporatist-statists run America. The oligarchy is much bigger than just "the Jews," and includes their shabbos goy collaborators as well.
What evidence do you have that finkelstein is a part of some plot? – peters | May 15, 2008 at 01:10 PM
i never claimed evidence. i am simply analyzing what i read and the actions i see.
on another of phil's post i have recently put an interview by jelle burinsma of norman finkelstein. read it. very revealing.
i am simply looking at what he says and what he is permitted to have vs others. same with chomsky. they criticise but they still do well. others suffer greatly. out of jobs w/o settlements.
NF also follows israeli solutions as his re the palestinians.
the finkelstein interview is under COMMENTARY @may 14
Finkelstein was instrumental in revealing the Holocaust Industry as a massive a program of Jewish chicanery. If he has somehow managed to make a living exposing organized Jewish chicanery, more power to him. I wish there were more goys that had his balls. A lot of people whine about Jewish chicanery in private, a few take their complaints public, but fewer still actually go out and do anything about it. Finkelstein did.
If more gentiles would quit cowering like shivering kittens waiting to be drowned, perhaps more people could make a living speaking truth to Zionism.
dear ed, who is talking about the holocaust industry?
We're all talking about Jewish chicanery, morphing and evolving into Bolshevism, then Zionism, then Judaized Christian Zionism/Neoconservatism/Neoliberalism…
At the core, it's the same animal. Finkelstein provides a description of one of its teeth…Chomsky a description of one of its ears…Phil a description of part of its psyche…I don't really care if they see, refuse to see, or deny the existence of the whole animal; what's important is that an undeniable portrait is coming together for ALL to see.
Please check the Petras/Finklestein debates on the cause of the Iraq War. Issues like this are what causes conspiratologists like
the above Finklestein sceptic to overreach. Since Petras does not himself overreach on conspiracy,even though bettering Finklestein, the amateurs would do well to
take his example.
"Please check the Petras/Finklestein debates on the cause of the Iraq War. Issues like this are what causes conspiratologists like
the above Finklestein sceptic to overreach Ken Hoop May 15, 2008 at 04:11 PM –
please elaborate on petras/finkelstein and the causes of the iraq war to gatekeeping re israel/palestine and power of jewry.
bruinsma interview better for my discussion. see interview @
finkelstein interview is under COMMENTARY post @may 14
Being Jewish, Finkelstein, Chomsky and Weiss obviously don’t want “the Jews” scapegoated for the intrigue of Empire and its pursuit of its interests.
But Weiss himself has argued that US Jews are increasingly at the steering wheel of Empire and so should take responsibility for its turns, particularly since there is a front seat full of Jewish Zionists with their hands all over the controls.
Chomsky and Finkelstein, being from the Leftists dialectical materialist tradition argue that Jewish ethnicity is largely irrelevant, and that Empire’s maneuvers are mostly about money. (Their soft spot for their own Judaism contradicts Leftist conventional wisdom, which is openly hostile to religion in general and Christianity in particular, and so engenders suspicion, but not excommunication, from most on the Left).
But for most Jews, Zionism is part of their ethnicity, so to the extent that Zionism impacts Jews in power (and I believe the impact is huge), Empire’s maneuvers are also about Zionism. In fact, Petras basically argues that because of Jewish Zionist predomination, Empire’s maneuvers are today about Zionism more than they are about money, because American Empire has actually suffered as a result of it support for Zionism.
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Apr07/Borer-Petras-Finkelstein17.htm
I believe the worst of the Jews are serving Zionism at the expense of America, and also trying to get rich doing it. This is organized Jewish chicanery. And as always, organized Jewish chicanery wants it all.
Finkelstein and Chomsky error in downplaying the ethnic Jewish Zionist predomination, but don’t error in their belief that unscrupulous gentiles are also getting rich off the scam. They, like the Judeofascists, have merely incorporated Zionism into the enterprise.
The worst of the Jewish Zionists would like to monopolize the enterprise, and are working towards that goal.
Exactly why Bush is bellowing back over the wires all the way from over in Israel about Obama the appeaser. You'd think
Obama had just divvied up Chekoslovakia instead of murmured
maybe we should sit down and talk instead of just bellowing to the terrorists to bend over while we stick it up their ass before we talk to them.
zionism is a part of jewry.
i dont think 'the worst of the jewish zionists' makes sense. a zionist is a zionist. liberal to knuckledragger their objective is the same. different tactic.
downplaying by chomsky and finkels is not an 'error'. it is a tactic. they mean to do this.
american empire has suffered greatly. jewry has not. its power has increased.
"At the core, it's the same animal. Finkelstein provides a description of one of its teeth…Chomsky a description of one of its ears…Phil a description of part of its psyche…I don't really care if they see, refuse to see, or deny the existence of the whole animal; what's important is that an undeniable portrait is coming together for ALL to see."
Phil is just catching on. he has a long way to go.
the other 2 plus hundreds of others are the problem. they have helped to destroy whatever support the palestinians would have received. by the time the whole animal is revealed, too late.
tell destroyed iraq the 'animal' is coming into view. chomsky says 'get it out of your mind this war is not for israel it is for oil". so one and all criticise the oil cos and not israel and jewry.
sorry if i am rude but your education seems to have gotten in the way of your thinking.
if i misuderstood, i will apologize.
"they have helped to destroy whatever support the palestinians would have received. by the time the whole animal is revealed, too late. tell destroyed iraq the 'animal' is coming into view."
This is a good point. Those that cry (usually as a red hearing on behalf of Zionism) that American Empire pulled all kinds of evil intrigue even before Jewish Zionism predominated in Washington ignore that none of the dastardly deeds come even close to the scale of a knock off of an entire country in which 1 million + (and counting) were killed as a result, although a close runner up would be Washington's blind support for Jewish Zionism going back to Truman, since which the Palestinians have nearly been wiped off the map.
It is true that Washington did pull much Cold War treachery, but a plausible argument could at least be made that it was done to counter Communism (which in my view is comparably evil to Zionism) whereas the invasion and occupation of Iraq were blatant acts of aggression and murder, as has been the engineered ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians.
No wonder the Neocons and Neolibs are now trying to sell the “war on terror,” the war against “Islamofascism,” and moves against Iran as “The New Cold War” (as Jewish Zionist Neolib Tom Friedman recently put it in The New York Times).
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/14/opinion/14friedman.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
I guess they think they can skate on their crimes against humanity if they fold them into a larger, epic struggle of the free world vs. Islamic totalitarianism. Nice try.
Saddam was a secular Baathist for most of his career; many of the Palestinians were Christians, and Zionism’s crimes have only strengthened and unified Islam, not eroded it. If we were really in an existential, epic, Cold War struggle, we would immediately cut Zionism loose out of our own self-interests, or at least we would if Zionists did not dominate Washington.
Jewish Zionists and their gentile collaborators have a lot to answer for — more every day — and are only digging themselves deeper.
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