Here's a startling post by John Mearsheimer saying that there is now a Palestinian majority in historical Palestine due to "reverse aliyah:"
The second trend is the large number of Israelis who have emigrated to North America and Europe, and are unlikely to return home. According to most estimates, there are roughly 5.3 million Israeli Jews and 5.2 million Palestinians living in Greater Israel. There are also about 300,000 individuals living in Israel who the Central Bureau of Statistics defines as "others." Most are family members of Jewish immigrants or individuals who have Jewish ancestors, but not a Jewish mother, and therefore are not categorized as Jews by the Israeli government. If one counts these "others" as Jews, then there are 5.6 million Israeli Jews, not 5.3 million. Let's do that, which means that there are 5.6 million Israeli Jews and 5.2 million Palestinians. However, not all of those Jews live in Israel anymore. It is difficult to get firm numbers on how many Israelis live abroad, because the government stopped publishing those numbers in the early 1970s. Based on various articles on the subject and conversations I had when I was in Israel this past June, it seems safe to assume that at least 750,000 Israelis live outside its borders. This means that there are now fewer Jews than Palestinians living in Greater Israel, even if you count the 300,000 "others" as Jews.
Furthermore, there is considerable evidence that a substantial number of Israeli Jews would like to leave Israel if they could. In an article that just appeared in the National Interest, John Mueller and Ian Lustick report that "a recent survey indicates that only 69 percent of Jewish Israelis say they want to stay in the country, and a 2007 poll finds that one-quarter of Israelis are considering leaving, including almost half of all young
So who lost Israel? Geography lost Israel. The west is safe for Jews, and western-oriented Jews would prefer to live in the west than in a state that is 500 miles east of Istanbul.
You couldn't sneak a complete copy of that Mueller & Lustick article out for us, Phil, could you? It's subscribers only.
"So who lost Israel?"
jews lost ersatz israel, the state of hate: j,000,000ish intolerance, greed, hate, violence, lies, crimes, delusions, fanaticism, ….
sabbath saturday. the in between sabbath. time to catch a holocaust flick. tis the season. which one to see. why go to fiction. watch jazeera and see the real jewish holocaust – what jews are doing to palestinians; what the jew's mercs, usa soldiers, do to iraqis.
The US State Dept's annual country report on human rights estimated as early as 2004 that a Palestinian majority had been reached in Israel and the occupied territories, though it didn't make it easy to spot that conclusion. It counted all Jews as a single unit regardless of where they lived in the area, but counted the Arab population in separate groups i.e. West Bank (less East Jerusalem), Gaza, inside Israel proper, East Jerusalem etc. It was only if you added together the Arab subcategories that you realized the State Dept figures were 5.2 million Jews and 5.3 million Arabs.
The US State Dept's annual country report on human rights estimated as early as 2004 that a Palestinian majority had been reached in Israel and the occupied territories, though it didn't make it easy to spot that conclusion. It counted all Jews as a single unit regardless of where they lived in the area, but counted the Arab population in separate groups i.e. West Bank (less East Jerusalem), Gaza, inside Israel proper, East Jerusalem etc. It was only if you added together the Arab subcategories that you realized the State Dept figures were 5.2 million Jews and 5.3 million Arabs.
So good I said it twice.
Actually Jews have been leaving Israel for quite a while now, the biggest inflow to Germany, USA, and Russia. Less stressful a life,
more job opportunities, and of course the advantage of nepotism and sharp ethics to sic on the more polite, and gullible host population. It especially helps that Germany, and to a lesser extent USA, feel guilty about the Shoah.
You live the good life in the host country, send back moneybags and
propaganda coverage to the safety net, just in case.
Pogroms in the USA, or Germany? The Israelis are voting with their feet on Phil's POV, not Witty's or SOG's.
Even as rich Jews in America are sending young American Jews to Israel to enmesh them in dual loyalty. One such rich jew just caught, his ponzi scheme hedge fund OPS and financial scams unmasked….
Further to Diane's point, the New York Times reported the tipping of the population shares back in 2005–
Why 'Greater Israel' Never Came to Be
See also–
What Demographic Threat?
The link in mearsheimer's para.:
"Based on various articles on the subject and conversations I had when I was in Israel this past June, it seems safe to assume that at least 750,000 Israelis live outside its borders."
actually goes to a copy of a Ybet article on the same 2005 report.
Rowan, I have the full article in PDF format, 6 pages long. How would I send it to you?
I'm going to email it to Phil as well. Maybe if he has your email address he can fwd it to you? Let me know.
Rowan, I have the full article in PDF format, 6 pages long. How would I send it to you?
I'm going to email it to Phil as well. Maybe if he has your email address he can fwd it to you? Let me know.
Ooh, ooh, ooh, I would be much obliged if one of you guys could email me a copy to a transient account chmeee.riit@gmail.com. No problem if you can't, thanks in advance if you can.
Now that it's a minority rule, is it safe to call it "Apartheid"? (Crude, I know.)
But wait, I thought that John Mearsheimer was practically living under a death sentence for opposing the JEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. How is it possible that he is living and prospering considering the power of the international zionist conspiracy.
But wait, I thought that John Mearsheimer was practically living under a death sentence for opposing the JEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. How is it possible that he is living and prospering considering the power of the international zionist conspiracy.
in the last 2.5 yeears 3 of my neighours who are finacialy in very good shape
have moved to israel ( their european jews) one of them retierd and moved their to be with his son and grand kids,
, another found a better job in israel and moved ,the other i'm not don't know much about because he and his family keept to themselves perrty much
so reading that jewish population in israel was decreasing do to people leaving came as shock to me .
I don't know. In Israeli cities and suburbs the streets are packed with young couples with children (Jews that is). My understanding is that the demographic advantage favors Jews for the next few decades. If current trends continue there will be a Palestinian majority between the Jordan and the Med within our lifetime, but that's only if you include Gaza.
Israel is a very vibrant and lively place. It looks youthful, even optimistic, on the ground. The economy is better than ours. This all sounds a little like wishful thinking–it doesn't reflect the country I just visited.
I would expect to see continued movement to Israel by hard core right wingers, who will be the only properly funded people there, since they will be lavishly subsidised with specially printed u.s. dollars.
My dear blogger from Lebanon, I would be delighted if you sent the article to me by email – my email address is : 'rowan dot berkeley at gmail dot com'.
Sword of Gideon. I don't know if Mearsheimer is living under a death sentence. But Alan Dershowitz did pronounce a fatwa on him two years ago.
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FROM HAARETZ -
"A Special Place in Hell": By Bradley Burston
Hebron, Feiglin, and the self-hating Jews of the right
You know them. These people who blatantly, instinctively, inveterately trash Israel. These people who miss no opportunity to brand IDF soldiers as Nazis. Who accuse the Shin Bet of human rights violations and defense officials of collective punishment. People who will tell everyone, anyone who will listen – Western journalists in particular – that the government of Israel is committing war crimes…..
……Ladies and Gentlemen, meet the new self-hating Jew, the New Right, for whom the Torah will come forth from Judea, and the word of God, from Hebron…..
…….This is how it ends, not with the demonstrations of the Israeli left or the boycotts of the Western far-left. What began in Hebron in 1968 is beginning to end in Hebron in 2008. It will be the kids, in the end, who will take the enterprise down – that and the global financial crisis, which will affect crucial supporters like Irwin Moskowitz and others who have long believed that if Israel is unwilling to finance expulsion of Arabs, it is the duty of good Jews in Boca Raton and Brooklyn to do so………
ENTIRE COLUMN -
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AGAIN, FROM HAARETZ -
Report: In Israel, Ashkenazis earn 40 percent more than Sephardis
By Ruth Sinai, Haaretz Correspondent, and Army Radio
Ashkenazi Israelis earn around 40 percent more than their Sephardi counterparts, according to an annual report being released Sunday by the Adva Center for policy analysis.
The number of Israelis receiving minimum wage or less grew by 22 percent in the past 10 years – from 28.8 percent of workers in 1998 to 35.1 last year. The middle class also continued to shrink, from 33 percent of all households to 27.7 percent.
This is the tenth such report by the center, which analyzes social equality in Israel. "The decade was marked by decreasing equality and justice in Israeli society," the document states……….
ENTIRE ARTICLE –
link to haaretz.com
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AGAIN, FROM HAARETZ -
Report: In Israel, Ashkenazis earn 40 percent more than Sephardis
By Ruth Sinai, Haaretz Correspondent, and Army Radio
Ashkenazi Israelis earn around 40 percent more than their Sephardi counterparts, according to an annual report being released Sunday by the Adva Center for policy analysis.
The number of Israelis receiving minimum wage or less grew by 22 percent in the past 10 years – from 28.8 percent of workers in 1998 to 35.1 last year. The middle class also continued to shrink, from 33 percent of all households to 27.7 percent.
This is the tenth such report by the center, which analyzes social equality in Israel. "The decade was marked by decreasing equality and justice in Israeli society," the document states……….
ENTIRE ARTICLE –
link to haaretz.com
Oh well then, Jim.
I guess that settles that then?
Twit….
To Blogger from lebanon – I'd be interested also in the article. If you'd be so kind please e-mail to danaalto at gmail dot com. Thanks.