This time a boat carrying 60 tons of humanitarian supplies to Gaza was captured and brought into Ashdod. There are reports of beatings on board. And of course, the U.S. countenances all this. Obama?
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FROM THE POST, ABOVE: "And of course, the U.S. countenances all this. Obama?"
ME: "See No Evil, Hear No Evil" Richard Pryor plays a blind man named Wally Karue and Gene Wilder plays a deaf man named Dave Lyons…..Dave didn't hear the gunshot and Wally didn't see anybody but he heard the gunshot. Soon after finding that there is a dead man on the floor and with Dave holding the murder weapon, the two of them are put into jail for questioning. Wally and Dave become the prime suspects and the police refuse to believe them…….. –
Phil,
You didn't consider this article newsworthy to your blog? (I know you got my e-mail).
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1062219.html
UNRWA suspends Gaza aid after Hamas steals food and supplies
By Haaretz Service and The Associated Press
Tags: israel news, gaza, hamas
The United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) on Friday said it is suspending humanitarian aid in Gaza until further notice, after Hamas seized control of its warehouses and stole 200 tons of food and supplies.
Also,
Is there any reason that you ommitted that ALL of the aid was transported to Gaza by land?
Israel rationally feared weapons importation. The AID was accepted.
A Lebanese boat? Do they have diplomatic relations with Israel? Do they have a peace traty with Israel? Aren't they technically at war with Israel?
Lebanese boat was proceeding via international waters into Gaza waters. As Gaza is no longer occupied by Israel and free to create its own Dubai on the Mediterranean, the Israeli intervention was baffling.
They dis-engaged and Gaza has nothing to do with them.
Or am I missing something obvious here?
Chris,
A Lebanese boat? Do they have diplomatic relations with Israel?
Why is this relevant? They entered Gazan waters.
Or, Chris, are you a supporter of one-person, one-vote, one-state after all, you sly devil you?
So a boat from a nation that is at war with Israel attempts to make port in an area from which rockets are being launched at Israel.
At the very least, the ship will be stopped and the cargo inspected.
You really don't have the right to object to a stop and search by someone's navy on the high seas, as a cargo ship registered to a belligerent nation, and in general.
Israel could have sunk it with missiles over-the-horizon, according to the laws of war, because it is wartime shipping into a war zone by a nation at war with Israel since 1949.
You people don't know shit about war or the laws of war, do you?
They do. But the destruction of Israel is more important than following the rules.
So a boat from a nation that is at war with Israel attempts to make port in an area from which rockets are being launched at Israel.
So Israel let's other boats in then, and generally respects Gaza's offshore rights? Or are you just being — again — disingenuous to hide the shame of being associated with that "shitty little country"?
Gaza is either occupied or its not.
If it's not occupied as Israel claims, then they have no right to control access to its coasts or to shoot at Palestinian fisherman off the beaches of Gaza.
If it's occupied (as Israel's control of Gaza's air, land and water borders demonstrates) then Israel is in violation of international law when it bombs the civilian population.
It's simple: you can't have it both ways. Not only does zionism butcher Arabs, it butchers the English language as well!
Sorry that the situation and the law confuse you so much. Perhaps you should take an elementary class in international affairs and the situation may become clear to you.
Gaza, is not a nation. As such, it has no national borders. As an entity, it is land locked with Israel bordering it on all sides, such as San Marino. Since Israel borders all sides, including the sea side, all activity wishing to go in or out of Gaza must go through Israel.
Gaza, is not a nation. As such, it has no national borders. As an entity, it is land locked with Israel bordering it on all sides, such as San Marino. Since Israel borders all sides, including the sea side, all activity wishing to go in or out of Gaza must go through Israel.
Huh? Israel now claims the Mediterranean Sea? And Egypt too? And Israel is not an expansionist state? You are too modest by half and then some…
Oh, and if Gaza is not a state, then what is it? Precisely, boy — what it its legal status?
One more thing: how do you know Gaza does not claim the Israel (proper) coast line? Maybe it does? So it is then perfectly legal for Gazans (or their assigned proxies) to seize ships approaching Israel.
Ye reap what ye sow.
If the Palestinians are not a people and a nation, then neither Are Jews. So the self-described state for the Jews is either a state for
ALL of its citizens equally in every sense or it is not a true state worthy of world-wide recognition. The occupation by land, sea, and air blockade of all land the Palestinian people have been driven to, and of the land the Palestinian people were driven out of after 100s of years of living
on, is an evil the whole world must confront. The Israeli seige of Gaza and West Bank is a cruel crusade without a cross banner, paid for by the USA common taxpayer, who individually at 98% of the population is a Christian, agnostic, or atheist.
The jews don't need the world to convince themselves they are a people, a nation, so why do the Palestinians?
The goys of the influential world at the time authorized the jews
to have a land for themselves at the expense of the native population at that time. And this was totally against all the
peoples and states in the target area of the globe. Time for equal treatment. It's only fair. Really simple.
Time for American values as they've come to pass to be honored.
Time to boycott Israel and cut off all funds.
America, awake! Obama, claim our mutual heritage!
Make might right. Israel's survival is NOT as important as
universal values. The USA must now live up to its professed
values, as a light to all nations. By spoiling the brat, Israel, and continually entitling it at the expense of everyone else, Uncle Sam
continues to invite its own downfall. The world's children are all
watching.
Take a look, watch South Africa ports for starters–they are boycotting Israeli
goods.
Despite what you hear, most Americans do not fit Madoff's profile. WE, the people of the USA, need to assert ourselves
for all humanity, not just the zionist-jewish version of humanity, which
is bi-polar, and therefore un-American in conception and as practiced by Israel, a welfare rogue state.
Even if Gaza were a nation, it is still clearly a belligerent. And, as stated, ships at sea really do not have a right to refuse a stop & search by anyone's navy if they are inbound to a belligerent's port. A lot of the Palestinians' arguments rest on the non-national status of Gaza, because a Gazan nation formally at war with Israel would have no intrinsic right to unhindered shipping of any kind, whether armed or no, because blockade is still a legitimate tactic of war under LOTS. (Law of the Sea.)
Gazans are trying to have it both ways, and if you have non-uniformed combatants as non-state actors, using indiscriminate area weapons aimed at civilians, you pretty much enter a legal gray zone where the state actor needs only to respect the positive obligations of international humanitarian law with respect to the rights of civilians in time of war. So returning fire to the source of fire is legitimate, even if civilians are likely to be harmed.