One of the disgraces of the Chas Freeman case is that his enemies dare not speak their true agenda. As Steve Walt has pointed out, they are Israel-firsters; their litmus test is No pressure on Israel. Are they plain about this? No. Here is a long article attacking Chas Freeman for his "foreign ties," chiefly his China connections, by Eli Lake in the Washington Times yesterday. The word Israel appears 3 times, and twice it's Congressman Steve Israel! There's one glancing reference to Israel after that. Saudi Arabia plays a distant second to China.
Let's be clear. This is corruption. When people won't tell you what they really care about--and in Eli Lake's case, late of the New York Sun (I debated him on Al-Jazeera at last year's AIPAC policy conference), it's Israel, and I warrant, not dividing Jerusalem (who knows; does he ever say?). The same hidden agenda bedevilled the Iraq war mess; and the Jewish community is going to be sorting out that one for decades.
If Lake had to base his attack on Chas Freeman on the likelihood that Freeman will increase pressure on the Israelis to cut a deal, how would Americans line up? That's what Lake's afraid of--American public opinion on permanent war. The lack of transparency is hurting our discourse and yes, generating sharper resentment toward the Israel lobby among those who haven't been duped.
A smart friend says it's all about Iran: "Freeman's
importance--for people in the Obama administration who saw the way things were tending and did not like it--was that of an authority who could reject the bad intelligence and do so with maximum conviction. This can't be allowed to happen because the emergency case for an attack on Iran absolutely depends on cooked intelligence--with no one in place anywhere to challenge it."
Great article! Honest and strong. I especially like this:
"Let's be clear. This is corruption. When people won't tell you what they really care about (…)"
A German said once: "The (written) word has to be a fist, not an point finger. Strike, hit."
Keep on striking and don't let yourself get watered down.
Bingo Phil.
Dealing with Iran is Israel's Job One. Expect maximum effort at removing any percieved impediment.
It's corruption, all right. And it's also fear by the MSM to call the attacks against Freeman by its rightful name. The media debate about Freeman is still largely under the public news radar screen. Even Sam Stein, over at Huffington Post and the first blogger to ask a question at a presidential press conference, shades his story about Freeman in terms of questionable connections to China and Saudi Arabia. His only mention of the Israel Lobby is as the title of Stephen Walt's book. Stein can't be that stupid can he? No, because it's fear of the consequences of outing the Lobby in its campaign against Freeman.
The Washington Times and UPI are more like MSM tail lights because they have a limited readership. Nevertheless, long-time foreign affairs writer Arnaud de Borchgrave, who is connected to both, has a fearless piece about the Lobby's coordinated attack against Freeman.
link to washingtontimes.com
And now a few words for those gullible Palestinian and Arab leaders who entertain the same false hopes every time a new American administration comes to power.
It is time you realize that without a real revolution in Washington, one that would deliver the American government and people from the Zionist stranglehold, there is not the slightest chance in hell that America will be able to accomplish peace in Palestine.
Today, Israel tightly controls the American government, including Congress, as well as the media, especially the so-called agenda-setter media. Moreover, Israeli leaders are bragging about Israel’s predominance in American political life.
“We don’t ask our American friends to do this or that , we order them to do it,” suggested one Israeli official recently.
This means that as long as Israel continues to call the shots in Washington D.C. and as long a American officials such as Hillary Clinton continue to shake at the mere thought of upsetting the powerful Zionist lobby, which exploits America and her resources for the purpose of achieving Jewish-Zionist territorial aggrandizement in the Middle East, counting on America to bring peace to this region borders on illusive and delusional day-dreaming.
For sure, a country that is nearly hopelessly enslaved by Jewish money and Jewish power, is not free to achieve peace.
Such a state should be called the “United States of Israel,” not the “United States of America.”
The United States of Israel
Another great link, seethelight. Thanks.
The main issue is, will the USA, after the dead of WW2, and the dead of the USA's civil war, and the death of apartheid S Africa, still OK the stealing of land by force, both literal (with full aid by the USA), and with economic support (the result)?
IN short, does Never Again apply across the world, or only to the jews? This is the cause. Does universal humanism apply, or not? witty has made his choice. And the rest of the human race? chris berel et al, Chris's Stools, have made their choice–much more directly than witty, who obviscates. . .An now its time for average USA masses to get off the pot, a pot made dire by US economy, by Madoff et al. Go back to Abramanhoff (sic), his K street, and Wall street now.
Makes you wonder if American jews generally have any idea of how unbelievably offensive it is to see this kind of thing go on or this Rosen business with even him attacking a guy like Freeman. If they did you'd think they'd put the kibosh on it like crazy or respond to repudiate it, and indeed so would the Israelis even I would think.
How many people in U.S. government who know of Freeman are saying "those f'ing jews" behind closed doors, and how many are quietly making connections and talking about what they can do in response? And as to Israel, boy, the minute its influence slips there's gonna be lots of people I suspect who are gonna wanna pile on to see the worm turn 180 degrees and who will have a face of utter stone to whatever happens to it.
Ugly tactics breed ugly reactions; jeez, how hard a lesson is that to imbibe? Not pretty, not right, but as predictable as the sunrise.
Jumping up and down about Israel, Leftists hide their real agenda, destruction of America/Western values.
Wasnt Dennis Ross an Israeli agent anyway? What the hell is he doing in the Obama administration? Or for that matter, why the hell are all these congressmen and woman getting money from AIPAC?
Brzezinski rejects Israel condition on Iran
Two former national security advisors urge the Obama administration to negotiate directly with Iran over its nuclear program without time limits.
Time limits "create a sense of urgency and pressure which (prevents) serious exploration of the issues," said Zbigniew Brzezinski, national security advisor for ex-president Jimmy Carter.
Testifying before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on Thursday, Brzezinski and Brent Scowcroft, an advisor to then president George H.W. Bush, advised President Obama on Iran….
…Brzezinski also urged the White House not to be influenced by other concerned parties over Iran talks.
"We should be very careful not to become susceptible to interested parties" and their policies on Iran, he warned referring to Israeli media reports that Tel Aviv urged Clinton to impose a time frame for negotiations with Tehran.
Brzezinski rejects Israel condition on Iran
One of the disgraces of the Mondoweiss case is that his friends dare not speak their true agenda. Phil's phools appear to be an antisemitic cabal who seek to help Islamic fascists fulfill their fantasy of a second holocaust.
Second holocaust
Islamic fascists
antisemetic cabal
L O L
God, you're a fucking retard.
And L O L @Suzanne. Western values?
Ethnic cleansing and genocide because God prefers you over another people – Manifest Destiny
Enslavement of an entire people because they are the Children of Ham or just generally inferior since they have dark skin – Slavery
Discrimination of people with dark skin and women, because they are WOmen – Segregation/Civil discrimination/Woman's suffrage/etc.
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All this talk about Western values is total nonsense.
Zionism seems to combine the worst of neoconservative thought and general ignorance of history.
All our victories as a country came slowly with painful struggle.
We weren't born yesterday, a secular/technocratic democratic society.
We have deep-seated institutional problems and we only overcame past issues by constant activism and strife – from the bottom, UP.
But a complete moron like Suzanne and the rest of the ZioPuke want to perpetuate this false notion of American exceptionalism.
That it's really that we're inherently better than others. Our 'values' are superior. Yea, we've heard this bullshit before, and then came those who were deemed controversial and radical and anti-American.
Martin Luther King Jr.
Malcom X
etc. etc.
Zionism seems to be an ideology that hinges on historical ignorance and pathological hypocrisy and sanctimony.
No wonder Berel keeps regurgitating the same fascist rhetoric and calling everyone a Nazi/Islamist/blah blah when he can't intelligently debate what they're saying.
You people are scumbags.
I think pressure on Israel without pressure on Hamas is a mistake.
It is in the US interest for there to be a viable peace, with a secure Israel and sovereign, self-governing and secure Palestine.
Right now Palestine is in a state of civil war, and the dividing partisonship revolves around what party, what agenda is in power in Palestine, and as the distinction whether to pursue a cosmopolitan reconciliation with Israel, or to determine to only resist.
The first step obviously is reconciliation between Hamas and Fatah, so that there is a single Palestinian voice and government. That is FAR AWAY currently as it is still illegal to advocate for Fatah in Gaza, and that some unidentified number of Palestinians were summarily executed by Hamas and other cadre, potentially near to the number of civilians that were attributed to be killed by Israel.
Is that reconciliation possible? Is Hamas capable of introspection, and sober and prudent deliberation?
I hope so, because then some reconciliation is possible, some viable Palestinian state.
Otherwise there is only war indefinitely.
I agree. The Palestinian leadership needs to reform. They need to stop using terror as well.
"Makes you wonder if American jews generally have any idea of how unbelievably offensive it is to see this kind of thing go on or this Rosen business with even him attacking a guy like Freeman."
People see a guy like Freeman who takes money with both hands from the Chinese and Saudis and they don't want him anywhere near an intelligence agency.
as opposed to taking money from Jews. which is a-ok
Great link.
that some unidentified number of Palestinians were summarily executed by Hamas and other cadre, potentially near to the number of civilians that were attributed to be killed by Israel.
How about US backed Fatah forces killing Hamas supporters?
The Gaza Bombshell, David Rose
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Richard, it would be interesting to hear, which media except the NYT you consider reliable on ME matters, and which journalists you consider trustworthy, can we assume David Rose is not among them?
Arnaud de Borchgrave, was on of the rare voices of reason. He knows very well what he is talking about. Does Hans Blix ring a bell? Does Seymore Hersh's term: stovepiping?
Iraq and the Golf of Tonkin,February 9, 2004
Not online anymore:
http://www.insightmag.com/news/2004/03/02/World/Commentary.Truth.As.A.Second.Language-612586.shtml
Insight on the News – World
Issue: 03/02/04
By the time Borchgrave arrives at a position, it is already practically common knownledge, but the fact that he is the person who is permitted to express it for the first time at, say, the Washington Times (of which Insight Magazine is a subsidiary) is a tribute to the respect inspired by his decades-long personal connections with the intelligence world (not primarily the US 'intelligence community', but others).
Witty: "I think pressure on Israel without pressure on Hamas is a mistake."
It would be nice to see pressure on both of them. But to date, as far as I can tell, there never has been any pressure on Israel
@Duscany
Pressure Hamas ? With what!!!!!
What more can they possibly do ? Only idiots like Mr Witty have the audacity to "demand" equal pressure.
Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose.
The zionists have taken their land, the water, destroyed their houses, killed the children, uprooted the olive trees.
Still the palestinians are winning. By refusing to die or run away are they forcing the zionists to show their true nature, and by Jehosaphat-it is ugly.
Yeah, Witty is amazing in his blind thoughts. Just shows you how his brain is eroded by ideology. A regular assumption of his is that, despite nearly half a century of one-sided pressure, still current, he now says the pressured all this time need to allow for balance or context–he's like a NAZI back in
1945 pleading for equality of treatment before the Nuremberg Court. Ashkenazi, nazi.
Dag, you mean that the palestinians are showing their true nature, that the typical palestinian soul is ugly, hateful, and more than willing to bear children to teach them how to be Jew killers?
Are you saying that the spiritual father of the palestinians, better known as Hitler's Mufti, continues to inspire Palestinians all over the world?
Thank you for clearing that up for us, Dag. Your service has been invaluable. Would you like payment in cash or credit?
Golda Meir, the beauty of her soul shining through her exquisite outer beauty, is captured on this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBHsrvoxbRI
"Golda Meir, the beauty of her soul shining through her exquisite outer beauty, is captured on this video:"
Yeah, right, Golda Meir, who denied the existence of an entire civilization when she enthused, "a land without people for a people without land."
If she had written, "a schoolhouse without white phosphorous for an army without shame," she'd be a lot closer to the truth.
"Denied the existance of an entire civilization"? When you bullshit, no amount of lime exists to cover your stench.
the lovely golda also gave out the gem that arabs do not love their own children
Another lie. Gold never stated that Arabs do not love their children. She merely averred that it appears they have a stronger desire to kill Jews then to see their own children live.
Big difference, but not to an antisemite.
chris berel is as usual lying. Here's what she said, with analysis:
Actually, she intimated exactly as I stated it. The video doesn't say any less.