Does American Jewish political engagement reflect a shtetl outlook?

I took Lizzy Ratner's recent blog, In the beloved Old Country, a Jew has visions of her homeland, to be a satire on Zionism, somewhat in the vein of Swift's famous "modest proposal." Unfortunately, or perhaps by intent, Lizzy stirred up a bit of a hornet's nest. And yet that may be for the good, because in one of her comments she raises an important question. Conjuring up "Zionists or ultra-religious folk who might happen to be reading this," she says, "they’ll accuse me of the greatest crime of all: of failing to understand the lessons of the Holocaust, of shrugging off centuries of hate."

And isn't that the real question? What exactly are the "lessons of the Holocaust?" What lessons have been learned, and are the lessons that were learned those that should have been learned? For Neocons, the obvious lesson is that Jews need a Fortress Israel that they can withdraw to in time of persecution. I have actually had highly-educated and intelligent Jews tell me that--if persecution should arise they can always flee to Israel. Like, if they're American neighbors start forming into murderous anti-Semitic mobs they'll somehow be safe crammed cheek by jowl into a tiny Levantine state, in a world awash in nuclear weapons. The Neocon response to this objection, of course, is to enlist the United States in a global search and destroy mission to level any country that expresses hostility to Israel. I submit, without denying the real threats that face Jews, that that is a mistaken lesson, a false lesson.

I've always favored an historical approach to understanding any human situation. For that reason, the seemingly endless Jewish - Polish recriminations actually serve a useful purpose: Santayana was correct, that those who are ignorant of history--or have misunderstood history and drawn mistake lessons from history--are condemned to relive or repeat history. That should be a very sobering thought when the history we're speaking of happens to be a mass genocide, the Holocaust.

So let me state what may seem a controversial view: the beginning of wisdom for Jews in understanding the Holocaust and, thus, in drawing correct lessons from the Holocaust, may lie in coming to a critical but sympathetic understanding of Polish realities as well as in a critical self understanding. Too often, it seems to me, the Holocaust has been simplified to the level of "they hated us for no reason," and those who seek deeper understanding are written off, as Lizzy says, as "shrugging off centuries of hate." Albert Lindemann, in Esau's Tears: Modern Anti-Semitism and the Rise of the Jews (a book I highly recommend), has framed the issue with precision:

An underlying issue in these contrasting views [of Jews and Gentiles] has to do with the responsibility of the Jews in history for their destiny and their being: Have they been wholly helpless and passive objects, without responsibility for their misfortunes, or have their actions and decisions in some substantial sense been their own, as active, conscious subjects in history, entailing some degree of responsibility? The inclination to picture Jews as perennially helpless victims, in no sense responsible for the ills that have afflicted them, has often been part of an unsophisticated and transparently defensive reflex. the popular writer Howard Fast concludes his book The Jews, The Story of a People, with this remark: "Such despair and agony as the Jewish people had to endure over the past thousand years is the result, not of what they are, but of what the Christian world has inflicted upon them." This is by no means an isolated or unusual comment.

Hopefully, we may find in the past lessons for the present and future. One way to begin to address these issues would be to quote an author–Israel Shahak–whom Phil has often cited. Shahak is writing about the 1648 Cossack rebellion against and horrifying massacres of the Polish landowners and the (predominantly) Jewish servants of those Polish overlords:

This typical peasant uprising against extreme oppression, an uprising accompanied not only by massacres committed by the rebels but also by even more horrible atrocities and ‘counter-terror’ of the Polish magnates’ private armies, has remained emblazoned in the consciousness of East-European Jews to this very day — not, however, as a peasant uprising, a revolt of the oppressed, of the wretched of the earth, nor even as a vengeance visited upon all the servants of the Polish nobility, but as an act of gratuitous anti-Semitism directed against Jews as such.

This rebellion occurred before peasant emancipation and land redistribution. Shahak's characterization is, I think, valid and the events have been mirrored several times in history. Polish memories of these events are probably equally as one-sided as Jewish memories–the fault is one-sidedly attributed by both groups to Cossack savagery alone (which was, in fact, considerable and horrifying), and each group sees itself as martyrs. None of the three groups are entirely wrong, but certainly none are entirely right, either. I recently came across an interesting book, Shattered Faith, by a Holocaust survivor. I quoted it in an earlier post and the same passage was quoted above by Eva. For me the author's description of shtetl life in the inter-war years was fascinating. The author references this matter of Jewish servants of Polish landlords–as well as a lot about Jewish attitudes toward Poles–and he notes that few of the peasants ever came in contact with their “own” local Polish nobility, but only with the Jews who were employed by the nobility–and by the Jews they were kept strictly at arms length. Other posters here have cited the quite acerbic views of Isaac Bashevis Singer in the same respect. Rabbi Byron L. Sherwin of Spertus College of Judaica in Chicago, citing Singer, reduced the much wrought issue of Polish - Jewish relations to a very fundamental level:

Similarly, it does not seem to occur to some Jews that manifestations of Polish anti-Semitism might be reactions to Jewish clanishness and parochialism. As a character in Isaac Bashevis Singer's novel "The Manor" puts it: 'How can anyone move into someone else's home, live there in total isolation, and expect not to suffer by it? When you despise your host's god as a tin image, shun his wine as forbidden, condemn his daughter as unclean, aren't you asking to be treated as an unwelcome outsider? It's as simple as that’.

Ouch. Is it really that simple? No doubt more could be said, and I'll try to address this by citing the views of Eva Hoffman (pictured here). Still, Singer is saying little that hasn't been repeatedly stated by other Jews about Jewish attitudes toward Poles. As Weliczker Wells states in Shattered Faith,

... We lived in a self-imposed ghetto without walls. The Jewish religion fostered our living together in groups which separated us from non-Jews. ...

... We, Jews, felt superior to all others, as we were the "chosen people", chosen by God Himself. We even repeated it in our prayers at least three times a day, morning, afternoon, and evening ...

... We were strangers to the neighboring gentiles because of our religion, language, behavior, dress, and daily values. Poland was the only country, where a nation lived within a nation. ... We lived in a strictly self-imposed ghetto, and it suited our requirements and wishes. ... Our parents not only praised that time [i.e., Austrian rule] as being better for the Jews, but spoke with pride about the superiority of German culture and its people compared to the Polish culture. This attitude was very badly received by the Polish people. ... The belief that German culture was superior continued even to the time. when Germany occupied Poland in 1939, and in its eastern part in 1941.

The pro-German sentiments mentioned by Weliczker Wells should not be underestimated. Nor should religious and ethnic loyalty and solidarity. As Prof. Yacov Talmon, speaking from his experiences in the Russian partition of Poland, acknowledged,

... many important factors infused in the Jews a spirit of contempt and hatred towards the Poles. In contrast to the organizational activity and capacity of the Germans, the Jews saw the Poles as failures. The rivals most difficult to Jews, in the economic and professional fields were the Poles, and we must not underrate the closeness of Yiddish to the German language as well. I still remember that during my childhood the name "goy" sounded to me as referring to Catholic Poles and not to Germans; though I did realize that the latter were obviously not Jews, I felt that the Germans in the vicinity were not simply Gentiles.

It would be shocking to think of it to-day, but the pre-Hitlerite relations between Jews and Germans in our vicinity were friendly. ... In the twenties, Jews and Germans stood together on election lists. Out of those Germans rose such who, during the German invasion, helped in the acts of repression and extermination as experts, who had the experience and knew the secrets.

It is not surprising, then, that in the mixed loyalties of the time Jewish unity grew stronger and deeper, and consciousness in this direction burned like a flame. ... the actual motherland was not a temporal one, but a heavenly one, a vision and a dream - to the religious it was the coming of the Messiah, to the Zionists it was a Jewish country, to the communists and their friends it was a world revolution. And the real constitution according to which they lived was the Shulhan Aruch, code of laws, and the established set of virtues, or the theories of Marx, and the rules of Zionism and the building up of a Jewish country.

One writer who has tried to probe these issues somewhat more deeply, with a constructive intent, has been Eva Hoffman. I will offer here an extended quote from her fine study Contested Memories (and I highly recommend the entire lecture), which picks up on several of the themes outlined above--interspersed with my own comments and questions.

In an eye-opening book, Power and Powerlessness in Jewish History, the historian David Biale gives an account of Jewish political life in the Diaspora, and shows that through the long centuries of exile, Jews used conscious political theories and political institutions to negotiate their own affairs and relationship with the governing powers of the countries in which they found themselves. Biale’s account is not so much in argument with Yerushalmi’s thesis as an important supplement to it. The interests of Diasporic Jews ran mainly to the preservation of a traditional, religious, separate identity; so politics was used, one could say, in the service of destiny—in the service of maintaining that ahistorical vision of their fate that Yerushalmi describes. In this fundamental aim, the Jews of Poland to a large extent succeeded, though it was success that carried its own price. However, the shtetl, judged by these criteria, was a remarkably resilient social formation, preserving its structures and its religious, legal and educational autonomy over centuries. In the Jewish imagination, the shtetl has become the locus of nostalgia and the metaphor of loss; it is usually seen as a quaint realm, either of Chagall-like innocent spirituality, or of Cossacks and pogroms. But one of the features of the shtetl which struck me was its high level of organization. Symbolically, life was structured by a system of religious belief that governed every aspect of behavior, from eating, to sexuality, to the shaping of the day, the week, the year. More concretely, the shtetl was organized into a network of brotherhoods, societies, and associations, ranging from the important burial brotherhoods to societies for the aid of poor finances and later, cooperative banking associations.

[Comment: Hoffman, indirectly, addresses Lindemann's central theme and answers it: Polish Jews were active players in their fate, not merely passive subjects, but their choices had consequences. We will want to ask whether their choices continue to have consequences.]

It is quite possible that these communal organizations were a precursor and a preparation for the amazing explosion of Jewish political life which took place in Poland in the interwar period. This interval of Polish independence saw both the rise of ideological, nationalist anti-Semitism, and an exfoliation of Jewish life and creativity, which included the formation of many political parties, the election of numerous Jewish representatives to the Polish parliament, and ongoing, heated debates about the proper relationship between the Jewish minority and the Polish majority.

[Comment: Is it possible that this communal background of the shtetl continues to inform Jewish political activism?]

…[O]ne of the fervently debated questions in the field of Polish-Jewish relations is whether there was any continuity between pre- Holocaust Polish history and attitudes, and Polish behavior during the Holocaust itself. The nature of that behavior is also the subject of painful disputes.

The behavior in fact covered the entire spectrum of human possibilities— much as it did in other countries. In the shtetl which I studied, I was told of the kinds of episodes which were reenacted in countless localities throughout Poland. There were Poles who helped rescue Jews, sometimes on an impulse, and sometimes with the full knowledge that they were endangering their own and their families’ lives; there were those who informed on their Jewish neighbors, or colluded more actively in anti-Jewish violence, with a variety of motives: for payment, for petty revenge, or out of sheer anti-Semitism. There was a story I was told by a survivor whose entire family was killed in one moment by the local Gestapo, who had probably been notified of their whereabouts by a Polish passerby. He and another man were kept alive by a family of Polish peasants who built a special hiding place for them, and took enormous and conscious risks over a period of nearly two years to aid them. I think it needs to be remembered that in the awful calculus of the time, it took one act of meanness to end the lives of many; it took the efforts of many to save one Jewish life.

Still, the question of continuity between Polish history and Polish behavior during the Holocaust—that is, the question of intrinsic Polish anti-Semitism—is one on which the views of the various participants most painfully diverge. The Polish participants remind us that Poland was the only country that experienced two invasions—one from Germany, and the other from the Soviet Union. They would say—they have said—that the Jewish populations of the eastern shtetls actively welcomed the Soviets, who were Poland’s historical enemy and occupiers. The Jewish inheritors of this history reiterate that it made sense for Jews to welcome the Soviets, who were seen by them as a much lesser evil than the Nazis, and who brought with them the promises of universal equality and the erasure of ethnic and class differences. Once the Nazi occupation went into full effect, it created unprecedented conditions, which were perhaps more horrifying than anywhere in Europe. In terms of attitudes towards Jews, the situation imposed by the Nazi occupation was one of grotesquely warped morality. Within the Nazi universe, helping and rescuing Jews was punishable by death, whereas giving one’s Jewish neighbors away was rewarded—albeit very poorly. Within this perverted framework, there were people who behaved odiously, and people who behaved heroically; and there was the great majority which was indifferent or indeed ignorant of the tragedy happening in its midst. In their own terms, both parties are right. How can one, then, evaluate—never mind reconcile—their claims, the claims of still living, still rankling memories?

Or, to put this question differently: Can one, in interpreting this extremely difficult past, move beyond the point of view of its participants? Can one, in particular, step away from the perspective of the most victimized subjects? Until now, it has seemed indecent to do so. In our thinking about memory, the perspective of the victims has been the touchstone—and this to some extent has remained untouchable; it has seemed beyond interrogation. And I believe that on the individual level, it should be. The testimony of personal suffering—especially of the degree endured during the Holocaust—should not and cannot be questioned “objectively.” It can, at best, be listened to and understood. And, on the individual level, acts of violence or cruelty against the victims can only be condemned.

But on the collective level, in situations and histories as complex and contested as the Polish one, I think one has to gain a more holistic, more contextual understanding: to understand the interaction of various participants, and the structure of the situation as a whole. Otherwise, one runs the risk of only repeating the separate narratives, and replicating the lack of understanding between them. The historian Saul Friedlander in his book, Memory, History and the Extermination of the Jews, speaks of the impossibility of thinking about the Holocaust outside one’s own subject position. Nor do I think for a moment that I could step outside my own subject position—outside my actual experience and family memories, in other words—or that it is desirable for anyone to do so. I think that, in any case, there is hardly such a thing as impartial thinking; unless we are writing from a very long temporal or affective distance, we almost necessarily begin from a mental location, so to speak, and a point of view. On the other hand, there is no contradiction between point of view and strenuous thought. And I think that if one presses one’s own subject position far enough, one eventually always encounters the Other. For no history, and certainly no Jewish history, has taken place in isolation. Now, encountering the Other cannot always lead to reconciliation. There are situations in which the injustices committed in the past, or the inequities of power, are so extreme, that a structural understanding can lead only to an acknowledgment of the wrongs of the past. Of course, if such acknowledgment is made by both sides, that can be helpful and can even aid in healing. But in histories as entangled as the Polish-Jewish one—histories which resemble more closely the tangled politics of our own societies—to think of any one group’s memory without taking the other into account is to deny the real conditions of that group’s existence. And I think that if one does examine any one subject position far enough, one also comes upon one’s own weaknesses, or prejudices and projections towards the other—for no one, not even minority groups, are without them.

[Comment: It's fascinating that Hoffman refers to "the tangled politics of our own societies." Is this a reference to the intense political activity of Jews in America? Is she suggesting that that intense activity is deficient, that it denies the real conditions of "the other"? I'm reminded that Lizzy refers to her "elaborate fantasy" of Jews joining with "any other oppressed and dispossessed." Is that (in my view, recurrent) fantasy--of Jews leading the "wretched of the earth" in struggle against their oppressors based on real critical self understanding of both oppressors and oppressed, or does it speak, perhaps uncritically, to the unquestioned presuppositions of the fantisizer? Opinion surveys have repeatedly shown that mainstream political thought among Jews is far different than that of other Americans. We can certainly discuss the relationship of Neocons toward their fellow Americans, as Phil has ironically noted on several occasions, as well as the irony that Lizzy notes in the treatment of Palestinians by Zionism. But the question arises, too, of the relationship of liberal Jews (the vast majority) to their own brand of activism. Is their liberalism an effort to reconstruct the all embracing communal life of the shtetl, against the wishes of most of their fellow citizens? Does this evince a failure to acknowledge "the other" that Hoffman speaks of? Lizzy has noted that nearly 75% of American Jews have their roots in Poland, in the shtetl communities or the urbanized shetl-like neighborhoods. Hoffman speaks of the "nostalgia" of American Jews for that past. Is it not possible that this nostalgia influences Jewish - Gentile relations, but is unacknowledged and unexamined? Phil has repeatedly called for an examination of the nature of Jewish participation in the American elite--might this be a reasonable starting place, for both Jews and Gentiles?]

Since the history of Polish-Jewish relations is so long and varied, it offers a very large field within which one can start asking certain basic questions. One underlying question which concerned me as I was thinking about this past is: what makes for harmonious cross-cultural relations, and what makes them break down? Certainly, the elements of religious and later ideological anti-Semitism in the majority culture affected the relationship between Poles and Jews greatly. And yet, despite this, there were decades and even centuries in their common history when the two groups lived side by side amicably, or at least in a state of benign indifference. This is something that I think needs to be taken into account. We tend to parse the past through its climactic moments—that is, the moments of violence and conflict. But the long phases in which nothing very notable happened between Poles and Jews suggest to me that the instinct of tolerance is as basic as its opposite, and that when hostilities are not actively stimulated, people and groups are capable of accepting each other, for all their cultural and spiritual differences. The eruptions of active hostility within Polish society usually took place during periods of heightened economic competitiveness, or marked conflict of interest— and there were times, as during various Russian occupations of Poland, when actual Polish and Jewish political interests diverged to a considerable degree.

Still, the deepest and the most obvious factor affecting Polish-Jewish coexistence—a factor which may seem so self-evident as not to bear noting—was that separateness and the failure to create a common sphere of interests and concerns. The cultural and spiritual gulf may have been breached by daily familiarity; but on the fundamental level, it was largely chosen on both sides. The barriers on the Polish side to full Jewish inclusion were high and well fortified; but the determination of most Jews to remain a “nation” apart from the surrounding majority was just as strong. I think that this sustained separateness led to what Zygmunt Bauman in his brilliant book Modernity and the Holocaust calls “the production of distance,” and that it had a great bearing on what happened during the Holocaust. At the moment of greatest danger and vulnerability, it took qualities of exceptional moral strength and courage for a Polish person to help a Jewish one. In the eyes of most Poles, Jews were not within their natural sphere of responsibility; they were not, in the Polish expression, “ours.”

What, then, can we in the “post-” generation do? What attitude should we take towards this painful history—and perhaps towards others? We are not in a position to demand justice, since the wrong was not done to us. And we are not in a position to forgive, since the wrong was not done to us. These are moral rights which belong to the participants in the events themselves; to assert or arrogate such rights for ourselves is, I think, an instance of false appropriation. A Truth and Reconciliation Commission is possible only in the immediate aftermath of horrific events. The privilege of demanding justice, and the magnanimity—I sometimes think the saintliness—of going beyond justice and choosing forgiveness over redress, belongs to those who have suffered. Any attempt to administer transgenerational justice is bound to get caught up in the cyclical logic of revenge—a logic evident, for example, in the recent wars in former Yugoslavia, in which the Serbs, with the help of a very long and stubborn collective memory, have been able to hearken back to their great defeat at the Battle of Kosovo in the fourteenth century as if it were a still present past, and could therefore view themselves as martyrs still at Muslim hands, and frame their campaigns of aggression as wars of redress.

These are some of the things we cannot do. But I think that the task in our generation is exactly to examine the past more strenuously, to press the questions raised by our memories—or, more frequently, received ideas—further; to lift, in other words, our own prohibitions on thought.

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  1. Brilliant essay!

    But the question arises, too, of the relationship of liberal Jews (the vast majority) to their own brand of activism. Is their liberalism an effort to reconstruct the all embracing communal life of the shtetl, against the wishes of most of their fellow citizens? Does this evince a failure to acknowledge “the other” that Hoffman speaks of?

    Tikkun olam is the Jew’s duty to repair the world. But what if the world doesn’t consider itself broken?

  2. Lizzy Ratner says:

    Dear Mark,

    Lizzy here. Just wanted to say thank you for the thoughtful post, particularly the extended quotes from Eva Hoffman, with whom I was sadly not familiar but whose study, “Contested Memories,” I will clearly be reading. That said, the sensitive, ego-driven part of me feels the need to correct what I think is a subtle misunderstanding (unless I misunderstood what you were trying to say, which, given the limitations of my murky brain, are always possible).

    You cite my reference to “any other oppressed and dispossessed” as an example of the flawed belief by some liberal Jews that their role is to “lead” the “wretched of the earth.” In fact, nowhere in my construction of the sentence do I suggest the idea of Jews leading anyone (perhaps this is something you wanted to see there?). Instead, the verb I used was “joined,” implying, quite intentionally, the idea of solidarity — a solidarity that, if Jews had recognized it at the time, might not have led to the belief that Jews are uniquely persecuted and therefore deserve their own unique land. More to the point, you’ll notice that the whole fantasy is located in the past — more specifically, the immediate, post-Holocaust past — when I think it was, in fact, fair to describe Jews as members of the “oppressed and dispossessed” of the world. Finally, while you wouldn’t actually know this, I did actually draft (and then dump) a version of the piece in which the “elaborate fantasy” I dreamed up was set in the future-present (problematic in other ways, obviously) and in which I made a clear distinction between Jews and the world’s *currently* oppressed and dispossessed.

    So why does this matter to me? Well, as I said, the protective, ego-driven part of me bridles at the idea of my words being misunderstood. But more to the point, while I think there is some validity to the stereotype of the older generation Jewish lefty who sees HIMSELF as leading the charge (though I would also argue that this comes more from a sense of white male American entitlement than anything particularly Jewish), I think there’s also an increasing amount of recognition by younger Jewish progressives that we are not oppressed or dispossessed, that we have been fortunate enough to escape that fate, and that our role in contemporary political movements, if any, should be one of support, back-up, following the lead of the grassroots. Finally, while I’m all for self-reflection and criticism, my greater concern these days is that far too many Jews have adapted to the comforts of modern American life and, in the process, have begun to ignore the challenge we all (Jews, non-Jews, everyone) face — the challenge, that is, to make the world a better place.

  3. taranaki says:

    One lesson from Polish-Jewish history that is not mentioned is the danger of Jews relying on some strong state. Jews in Poland were safe (more than relatively) and prospered as long as the Polish state was strong. (To be correct, the Kingdom of Poland and the Grand Duchy of Lithuania until 1569; the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth after that.) The Cossack rebellions began in 1591 culminating in the Khmelnytsky rebellion from 1648-1654. This weakened Poland – to the benefit of Russia. Poland never recovered and continued downhill culminating in the partitions of Poland in 1772, 1793 and 1795. A weak Poland meant danger for Jews.

    Fast forward to today where Israel relies on the support of the one hegemon in the world, the United States. It has little support elsewhere. What happens when the US either weakens and/or no longer gives Israel its unconditional support? Israel has done nothing to try to fit into its dangerous neighborhood.

    • Citizen says:

      Actually, the current Israeli regime is constantly planting what it hopes are “green shoots” in anticipation of a weakening of support amongst the American Public Opinion, hence it’s bought leadership. Three biggies being fertilized are Russia, where the Israeli diplomats are nourishing a sense of parallel victimhood with Putin’s Russia, China, where the ground has long been fertilized, e.g., by Selling free US
      arms intelligence and weapons there, and India, right now the target of broad compatible strategy; all three in the aftermath of the decline of the USA as an economic power, saddled as it has been with fighting and paying for Israel’s wars and sustaining Wall Street and Federal Reserve economic, therefore political, hegemony, within the US polity.

      The key for the Gentiles of any nation is, the question from the commenter above, “Tikkun olam is the Jew’s duty to repair the world. But what if the world doesn’t consider itself broken?”

      I think the best thermometer to measure the illness is anything similar to the school
      busing issue of the Archie Bunker days. The question there was always to what extent was it one economic class of people paying for the altruism of the other? In other words, hypocrisy. This is the same question raised now when the grass roots
      raise questions regarding congressional health recommended as compared to the special deal congress people enjoy.

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  5. mark says:

    America First–thanks.

    taranaki–your historical point is, imo, well taken although it does point at one the contributing factors to resentment against the Jews. As most scholars have noted, the Jews were positioned socially between the privileged nobility (for whom they often worked as administrators) and a brutalized peasantry. Weakness at the top–and this was true in many other countries as well–placed the Jews in jeopardy. Your application of this fact to Israel is worth pondering. Israel was an understandable idea, but was it a good idea. And, of course, there is Hoffman’s concern that “the other” be taken into account.

    Lizzy,

    Rest assured, I didn’t misunderstand you, nor do I believe that others did. Your words triggered a train of thought that led me to connect those words to Hoffman’s theme of nostalgia and romanticism, but that was based on my own personal experience and wasn’t intended to reflect on you personally. I should have included a caveat to that effect. That romantic fantasy, of course, is not peculiar to Jewish liberals, but in the context I did want to emphasize that aspect. In my generation I believe it remains quite common.

    By the way, I’m glad you’ll be looking into Contested Memories. Hoffman also has some full length books that may interest you–I find her insightful regarding human nature. Here’s an excerpt from a profile of her:

    Everything is strange to the eye of a stranger. What makes her extraordinary as a writer is that she can recapture the sense that life must be constantly made understandable, yet will never become familiar. This trick is most subtle when she writes about things we already think we understand: Polish anti-semitism in Shtetl, her history of a settlement on the borders of Poland and Belarus; and in Exit into History, the aftermath of the Velvet Revolutions. In both cases, she looks at the fine detail of people’s lives and waits until they appear before the reader, as serious, knotty and untranslateable as we appear to ourselves.

    Roy Foster, professor of modern history at Oxford, says: “She writes about ethnic or racial relations, which are sometimes treated in a very simplistic way, and she makes it clear how complicated they are.”

    She understands that everyone is on someone else’s periphery: when, in Shtetl, she visits the market in a small town in eastern Poland, where the Jews were exterminated, she sees: “Ruddy-faced farmers in sheepskin coats with high leather boots . . . stomping their feet in the snow for warmth. I observe them with a double vision. They are rough-and-ready looking men, huddling in small groups, exchanging idle remarks. That is all. But in post-Holocaust ethnography, they have come to be seen as allegories of anti-semitism. In their faces, if you look at them a certain way, nothing but this essential hatred can be discerned.”

    But she flips the mirror so that she shares their intolerance. “The way, undoubtedly, that to some of them a Jew was a pure type, of greed, cleverness and manipulativeness. I know that there may be some truth to the Polish stereotype: that in some of their hearts, anti-semitism sprouts. But I also know that, on both sides, these are reductions, pure, simple and sometimes very dangerous.”

    Her picture of the complexities of the Holocaust grows out of family experience. Her parents were betrayed several times by Gentile peasants to the Germans who would have killed them, as all their relatives were killed. But they also survived because of the bravery and self-sacrifice of other peasants – who would themselves have been killed had the Wydras been discovered. And Hoffman’s aunt and niece were betrayed to their deaths by other Jews. This is why she is able to say: “An injunction to remember can become an injunction not to think, not to grapple with the past: such an injunction seems to me to verge on bad faith.” In other words, a facile and distorted memory is almost a greater insult than simply forgetting. No wonder Foster sees in her an example to be followed by everyone who writes Irish history.

    I like that attitude–refusing to ignore complexity.

  6. Citizen says:

    Mark, well said. How much of this comes down to Ayn Rand? A jewess who’s nice, comfortable situation was blown away when the Reds took over her father’s business, and then she flew to Jewish Hollywood, helped by her landsmen, where she proceeded to
    blow the trumpet of individualism, never talking about her own ilk’s tribal collectivism?

  7. VR says:

    I think there is something missing in the reference to being intermediaries and it being spoken about in the fashion as “something we chose.” In any country which a people are seeking to be part of, there is always a give and take with the rulers and the laws extant at the time. In the case of the Jewish population, where there was the extra added “a nation to ourselves” principle, so to speak, there are extra arrangements that need to be made sometimes. It is either deny what you are and all this entails – or compromise, or move on. Along with this is the suspicion of why “those people” are trying to settle here, what were the problems or reasons that made them move, and all of the other common suspicions (which unfamiliarity breeds, which was spoken about above). Do you think someone wakes up one morning and says (as a limited example) – “hey, I think I want to take the hated position of a tax collector?”

    If this issue is not considered in the discussion it does a disservice to what happened here, and many other places – and what became a common practice so we could grow some roots in any place. You have to remember historically, that our travels took us to places where the faith of those communities were “other,” and so were we. There were those who built on common stereotypes mistakenly drawn from their religious leaders and wrested texts from accepted holy books. In proselyting faiths there was attached the sword and conquering principles, which drive those of other faiths with a scourge.

    So, when statements are made about what we “chose” I think there have to be certain provisos of history and reality. Things were done so we could subsist (many say thrive), not merely because they were great positions – and the leadership of countries chose this so they could keep an eye on such “private people” and knew that they could apply that pressure because we wanted homes and a community (plus they had a mistaken view that we would not develop sentiments for the other people because of our self-contained communities).

  8. mark says:

    v…

    I think I understand what you’re saying about “chose,” but I also think that people like Lindemann and Hoffman are making a somewhat different point. What they’re reacting to–and they’re far from alone in this these days–is the notion that Jews were powerless. They’re maintain that Jews were not powerless, but they’re focus is not on that simple fact but rather on the use to which they put their power/influence in European society. In Poland, at least, they argue, a lot of their community resources (to coin a buzz word if I may) went into maintenance of separation from the Gentile world around them. Obviously, this is a generalization. Hoffman, at least, then goes on to suggest that when push came to shove and every member of Polish society (except for the Volksdeutsch) were under the gun, everyone looked to help those who were part of their own group. Since Jews had, as a group but with exceptions, separated themselves from Poles, it was fairly understandable that Poles should view Jews as “not our own,” and extremely commendable on the part of Poles who crossed those lines to help Jews. There were more than a few of those. Now, some might also say, it’s a shame that it took that sort of crisis to bring out the good in people, but this is the type of study that Hoffman seems to excel at. Nechama Tec studied the type of persons who came to the aid of Jews and came to the conclusion that they were, by and large, very ordinary people. Serious about their religion but not ostentatiously pious, people who simply decided that they would make a stand for common humanity.

    Citizen,

    Your remark regarding the current health care debate is one of the things I had in mind. Reading Mickey Kaus today, he refers to Dr. Zeke Emanuel’s “communitarian worldview,” and links to a Marc Ambinder blog re Emanuel, who is Rahm’s brother and who is a bit of a disciple of the communitarian Michael Sandler. I’m not suggesting anything so daft as that there’s something like a one to one correspondence between the “shtetl outlook” and the communitarian worldview of significant Jewish players in what Phil likes to call the American “elite,” but I am suggesting that the “shtetl outlook” may serve (perhaps unconsciously) in several ways as an ideal, an inspiration, for the participation of at least some significant portion of Jews in American public life.

    All of which is to say that I agree with Phil’s repeated contention that, since Jews are now significant players in the power elite (C. Wright Mills, right?), America needs to pay attention to “where they’re coming from.” We can debate and dissect WASP values, etc., and we should be able to debate and dissect the values that Jews bring to the public square as well. Again, with Phil, I believe this is healthier for all of us.

  9. Do you think someone wakes up one morning and says (as a limited example) – “hey, I think I want to take the hated position of a tax collector?”

    Haven’t there been cases in Europe when Jews were given the opportunity to work the land? I mean not be real estate moguls, just physical work. Wasn’t that also what Israel with the kibbutzes was supposed to be for? Jews would roll up their sleeves and be normal working people. They wouldn’t even need dual citizenship for that. What happened?

    • VR says:

      Absolutely, there has been chances for working the land. There was participation in this in many areas of Europe. However, I think people are kidding themselves if they think that the use of the Jewish migrant by an elite, as a matter of being able to subsist in some regions, was not being done. If need be I can produce historic proof of these scenarios. At times it caused both great despair and consternation from the ruled masses, and it gave the ruling elites a way to hide by just saying nothing, silence or, they would deny it and deflect the anger on the intermediaries. In this way many conspiracy theories regarding Jewish ruling of the world of today were originally promulgated by these earlier issues. If you think that these is no one else except Jews making decisions on foreign policy, as an example, in America, all it does is become a repeat of a historical phenomena.

      Other than this there was the wiping out of entire communities or driving out by religious factions. It is interesting to note, that in Spain during the rule of the Moors that the Jewish population flourished – until the drive of the “Christian community” where it became convert or leave. If you think Christianity did not develop an animus early in its history you need to study a little further. Even the “fundamentalism” of today which feigns such admiration and care has an eschatology of complete destruction for not converting. Some running around (fundamentalists) are saying the “Antichrist” is a Jew.

      I think people need to be a little more historically aware of these issues.

  10. Eva Smagacz says:

    There was no restriction on Jews owning land until medieval times. However, they were forbidden from owning christian slaves (serfs), so they really couldn’t make use of large estates. Jews however did own small plots of land in the southern Europe and produced, between other things, wine.

    Usury, moneylending at interest was allowed to non-Jews, and become more and more attractive as the formation of guilds crowded out non-associated partisans from the trades. Its huge attraction was that it allowed plenty of time for study of Talmud, unlike other jobs or trades.

    Choosing usury as a source of income was a fateful decision, which alienated many Jewish communities from their neighbours, and facilitated increasing restrictions on trade, commerce and residence – restrictions that were virtually non – existent in the first millennium.

  11. Shmuel says:

    Lindeman’s important remarks on Jewish historical responsibility echo those of Hannah Arendt in “Antisemitism”. With regard to Hoffman’s “intergenerational justice”, the same rules should apply to the perception of Jews as oppressors due to the role of some Jews as instruments of class oppression. That was a very very long time ago. To judge feelings toward Jews in the Modern Era on that basis, is to indulge the reactions of those who were not directly oppressed to those who did not actually oppress them. The lesson of historical responsibility is a valuable one, but intergenerational historical responsibility?

  12. VR says:

    For further clarification, you have to understand that most have been sold a bill of goods as to the function of their government, and even the form of their government in the USA. Some have these views of a pristine system that has been soiled, or they see the “founding fathers” as some form of lesser gods.

    There is tremendous resistance against any view of reality for those who look at some founding documents as sacrosanct, and those that think that what was written is indeed a (or was) reality. Dare I say that most are not even aware that when the Constitution was written it did not even have one clarification of the position and rights of the people – hence, the presentation of the Bill of Rights which every signer of the Constitution except one rejected initially out of hand! Some see the Declaration as divinely inspired, and would not even think of it as an instrument to inflame the passions of the people, etc.

    In light of this, when you talk about some “foreign influence” and it being paramount you get a strong reaction, because of a perception that this is not how the “system” works. So influence becomes a novelty rather than a norm, and the influence of a “group” that already has been tagged as other than American interest (as if that interest was ever that of the people) gets strongly condemned.

    Quite frankly this has always been the form of the nation state, the way it is created and sustained is by deception that it is for the people, when in reality it is merely a franchise of the elite. There are numerous powers vying for position at the table, and every single one of them have to be challenged by the people, otherwise when you remove one another takes its place. If this is not the case and all you do is emphasize one influence you make it more than it really is. There are policies and interests all over the world that are pushed by many different elites of both a foreign and domestic nature, and unless you understand that you face the way a system has been made to function you run the risk of saying “this one is the worst demon of them all.”

  13. VR says:

    Sometimes it is better to get an objective view, some may question the source but you have got to understand that this is an old old game –

    “DEMOCRACY”

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