As mentioned earlier, Zionist hasbara efforts in Canada now boast a new initiative called ‘Size Doesn’t Matter’. The campaign has got most publicity so far on account of a video that combines sexual crudity with the erasure of Palestine from the map.
This propaganda drive, sponsored by the Canadian Council for Israel and Jewish Advocacy, also includes the scheduled appearance on campuses of a man called Kamal Saleem, "a former PLO terrorist".
So let’s get a sense of what kind of person the CIJA and Zionist campus groups think would make a good propagandist for Israel.
From Saleem’s ‘Koome Ministries‘:
It is our hearts cry to reach a lost and oppressed people through education, relationship, and prayer as to the truth and liberty in Christ Jesus. Teaching the redeeming power of the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Our mission is to see ISHMAEL REDEEMED.
And Saleem, on his personal website, boasts quite the CV:
Like a star U.S. college football running back, Kamal ran important terror operations as a young man in the service of Yassir Arafat, under the coaching Abu Yussif and Abu Zayed (PLO/Fatah). He has worked for, and dined with, Muhamar Kaddafi (dictator of Libya). He has “carried the ball” for Baath Party leaders and military attaches of Saddam Hussein (dictator of Iraq) and Hafez al Assad (dictator of Syria), for Saudi Arabian sheikhs and princes, and for Abdul Rahman (Muslim Brotherhood). Kamal Saleem fought with the Afghan Mujahadeen for victory against the Soviets… before he and his patrons turned their attention to the destruction of the West – and Western freedoms – through Islamicization. Above all, Kamal thirsted for jihadic death to America.
Here he is in a more dramatic mood. And here he is describing his first mission at the age of seven.
Equipping travelling citizens with hasbara one-liners, sexual innuendo, and Koome Ministries – correct me if I’m wrong, but was the South African apartheid regime’s propaganda this bad?
Wow, so this is like Canada’s incarnation of the Walid Shoebat fabrication, huh.
I didn’t know that Fouad Ajami had a baby brother named Kamal….
Fervent supporters of Israel are becoming something akin to a cross between the ‘Moonies’ and the Scientologists.
MOONIES – link to en.wikipedia.org
SCIENTOLOGISTS – link to en.wikipedia.org
It’s like a dentist who tells you to replace all your teeth with titanium implants, or one who says you should get gold on evey tooth showing.
Get the grill, like an old buick.
I think Phil got it wrong and so did the rest of you. This is supposed to be funny. This is some pretty funny stuff. Saleem seens quite the comedian.
There should be an edit button.
But phil, do bring us more of this stuff. Better than the depressing posts you usually have.
I agree, love the video. :D
RE: It is our hearts cry to reach a lost and oppressed people through…the truth and liberty in Christ Jesus. Teaching the redeeming power of the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Our mission is to see ISHMAEL REDEEMED.
MY COMMENT: It’s an awfully G-ddamned close call, but I think I’d rather hear what someone from ‘Jews for Jesus’ has to say!
Damnation – link to en.wikipedia.org
Jews for Jesus – link to en.wikipedia.org
The more the better. Let the world see Israel’s ugliness in its most primitive form.
My what a busy little terrorist. With a cv. like that, I’m surprised he had any time to breathe.
How is Kamal Saleem any different than the IDF soldiers from Breaking the Silence. Its just the other side of the spectrum. Its an automatic fabrication when someone on the Palestinian side talks about their wrong doings, but when a soldier of the IDF talks about their wrong-doings they are saints. Doesn’t that trivialize both their testimonies?
I for one believe both accounts, there is enough evil on both sides to go around.
The difference being that Kamal Saleem’s story is completely unsubstantiated, and actually has fatal inconsistencies, much like the story fabricated by Walid Shoebat? The other difference being that what IDF soldiers are saying is backed up by the Goldstone report?
“Doesn’t that trivialize both their testimonies?” That is exactly your intention, to make a phony moral equivalence between a liar and a soldier, between sensationalized stories and documented facts. Do you honestly think we’re fooled?
The question that I’m asking myself is why aren’t the US and Canadian governments not arresting Kamal if he really is what he says he is?
excuse my grammar.
Simple. Obviously, he isn’t.
Compare and contrast with:
Despite No Links to Violence, Founders of Muslim Charity Sentenced to Lengthy Terms for Donations to Needy Palestinians in Occupied Territories
Chaos, they helped right the Goldstone report, they are backing it up, not vice-versa. I read in the report that Shmuel linked to early one of these people being quoted as saying: “we fire WP cause its cool.”
It wasn’t an officer that said that but a soldier. Soldiers don’t pick the munition they are going to fire. That is the type of testimony Goldstone is based on. Calling one of them a liar and one of them fact is so ridiculous.
I admit, the more I read about Saleem, the more of a quack he sounds like, but that doesn’t mean his story is a total fabrication. What is to say that the soldier I eluded to above didn’t make that up? You base all of your beliefs on which side of the argument they are coming from. Thats not a healthy way to promote an idea Chaos.
First of all, the word is “alluded,” not “eluded.” It continues to amaze me how unfailingly polite Palestinians — like olive — are, that they even apologize when there might be a grammar mistake in their English (there isn’t, actually, olive) whereas Zionists like you are consistently rude as hell.
You openly admit that you are trying to tie a story that even you now concede you have serious doubts about, to an factual investigation, and that you continue to persist in that charlatan’s work in spite of that, goes a long way toward demonstrating why your moniker and “intellectual integrity” shouldn’t be sharing the same clause without either being affixed by a negative of some type.
Actually, there was a double negative in olive’s post.
It should have read as :”why aren’t the US and Canadian governments arresting Kamal if he really is what he says he is?”
Putting the “not” before “arresting” made it a double negative, and the opposite of what she meant to say.
Posted purely in the interest of helping non-native English speakers through the vicissitudes of English grammar. My own grammar ain’t so hot, either. ;-)
Oh! Do you know, I actually missed that. Well, that was a remarkably minor mistake, if anything.
1) The two sides are not equal. One is occupied, one is the occupier. Can you imagine some successful Jewish businessman during WW2 converting to Christianity and going on the German touring circuit talking about the dark, shadowy nature of his former religion and extolling the virtues of National Socialism? As opposed to courageous German (i.e. IDF) soldiers who, as a matter of conscience, speak out against crimes against humanity being done by their government/army? Do you not see the difference?
2) Like Shoebat (who was exposed as a fraud by none other than the Jerusalem Post), this man seems to be more of opportunistic buffoon than anyone with anything serious and meaningful to say. I’d be tempted to attend this event more for its Maury Povich-style over-the-top theatrical entertainment value than for its ability to give me a sense of the life of a Palestinian ‘militant’.
but when Victor Ostrovsky does the exact same thing he is a savior in your eyes. Your inability too see both sides of the story is THE major flaw in your movement.
…and who’s mentioned Victor Ostrovsky at all in this conversation before? Besides you, just now?
You talking about flaws in our movement is laughable. How many wars have progressives lied the United States into, again? How many of us have flown planes into IRS buildings? Paraded around with signs with racial slurs, even?
Keep teabaggin’ yonira, keep teabaggin’.
As far as I am aware, Victor Ovstrovsky pretty much sticks to discussing Mossad, not Judaism, and he is a confirmed former Mossad agent and so has some expertise behind what he says.
Saleem, on the other hand,is, as you say, a quack, with no proof of his alleged derrings-do who has opened a crackpot Christian ministry that rails on the supposed evils of Islam. And yet you think the two are exactly the same. Your fevered attempt to equate things that don’t equate is but ONE of the major flaws in your posts here.
Get back to me if and when Ostrovsky opens a Christian ministry that attacks the “evils” of Judaism. Then you might have a PARTIAL equivalence.
What in the hell are you talking about? flying planes into IRS buildings? Teabagging? What does that have to do w/ me? You keep labeling me as a conservative and now a teabagger? When have I ever said anything of the sort.
I am pro-Israel so I have to be a neocon? You are a dense guy. Maybe that is how it works in the progressive world, but I make my own decisions and don’t feel I need to fit some political mold dictated by a half-wit like yourself.
Tree, show me where he is a confirmed Mossad agent? I’ve read one of his books (excited to read the next) and I find him believable, but to say someone confirmed it, other than himself, is hard to believe.
You continue to miss the double standard here, you totally dismiss everything Saleem says, but take everything Ostrovsky says as gospel.
How can you not equate their pasts? you whole heartedly don’t see a similarity between their stories?
Look, nobody’s falling for this bullshit, yonira. You dredged up Ovstrovsky as a total red herring, because now you’re afraid to talk about Saleem, because your initial zeal has died off and you’re thinking to yourself, “Oh my, maybe I was hasty to associate myself with a guy whose story is kind of flaky.”
Too late, bucko. Nobody brought up Ostrovsky except you, and far from tree taking what Ostrovsky says as gospel, he merely pointed out the blatant fallacy in your moral equivocation. The only we’re going to do if you keep beating up that straw man, yonira, is laugh at you for making a farce out of yourself.
We were talking about him extensively in a previous post. You should read his book Chaos, its actually very well written and informative.
Using his story in a Christian ministry setting is more than a little bit flaky, but telling the truth about his time as a Fatah isn’t flaky at all.
I forgot how easy it is for Zionists to accept two mutually exclusive things as true. He’s crazy! but he’s not crazy. Or to say two different things out of both ends of your mouth.
Ever wonder why Walid Shoebat is always shuttled around by conservative anti-intellectuals? I don’t. It’s because people like you eat it up.
dude, ok you are using the exact same argument I was accusing you of, all of 5 minutes ago. You are a weird guy Chaos.
What are you saying anyways? I believe both of their narratives. I said it at least 5 times in this thread.
you must be really excited tonight Chaos because you are making a lot less sense than normal.
I think i will quit squabbling with you for a few days, its getting kind of boring(well the fact that you are now totally incoherent is kinda funny, but i am starting to feel bad for you)
Peace Chaos, until i feel like more entertainment.
Tree, show me where he is a confirmed Mossad agent? I’ve read one of his books (excited to read the next) and I find him believable, but to say someone confirmed it, other than himself, is hard to believe.
This info is easy to find on the internet, and I’m surprised you aren’t aware of it. The Israeli government confirmed that he was a former Mossad agent back in 1990, in a lawsuit they initiated just prior to the publication of Ostrovsky’s first book, “By Way of Deception”, seeking to have the book banned. From the NYT story on the NY Supreme Court ruling overturning the ban:
Skadden, Arps asked that the documents in the case be sealed, but the justices rejected this request. The Israeli Government’s suit was thus made public for the first time.
It included an affidavit by Isser Harrel, the head of Mossad from 1952 to 1963. In it, he said that ”every person mentioned in this book, whether by name or by description, their families and all those that come into contact with such person over the years will be in a life-threatening situation.”
Contract Is Cited
The[Israeli] suit said Mr. Ostrovsky was employed by Mossad from Dec. 30, 1984, to March 9, 1986. It added that he had signed a contract stating that ”an absolute prohibition is hereby issued on the publication of books, essays and articles and the like containing information that reached the employee by virtue of his position.”
Mr. Ostrovsky broke the contract by writing the book, the suit said, adding that this was an offense punishable by imprisonment in Israel.
link to nytimes.com
And BTW, I don’t take everything ANYBODY says as gospel. I usually check sources and use both prior info and logic to decide if someone is telling the truth, lying, or merely unknowingly passing on false information. I haven’t read Ostrovsky and have no particular opinion on what he says but do recognize that he is not just some crackpot who is making outlandish claims. Saleem on the other hand, by virtue of his stated “biography” is claiming to have dealt with various heads of state or heads of major organizations, and jumping from Lebanon to Syria to Libya to Saudi Arabia to Afghanistan. His claims don’t really pass the smell test.
And again, you seem to be ignoring the fact that Ostrovsky limits himself to discussing Mossad, an agency that Israel admits he once worked for. I haven’t heard Ostrovsky make hateful statements about Judaism, or claim that he “saw the light” and became a Christian dedicated to tearing down Judaism. Saleem, on the other hand, is doing just that with Islam. That is why the two men are not equivalent.
cr*p! Everything after the link is my comment.
Thank you, tree.
Better watch out, yonira is trying to find the “evil” ones….lol The evil as opposed to the good ones, the white hats as opposed to the black. Yonira is out resident hobbit…hehehe
The Zionist hasbara goons are trained to live in their self denial. They dpn’t want to accept their own history of collaborating with Hitler, Mousolini, Lenin, Idi Amin, Stalin, Saddam Hussein, King Reza Shah Pehlvi, etc. etc.
As far as to make their hasbara lies attractive to naive people – they have been on record of using porn to sell even Holocaust.
Israel’s Pornographic Stimulus Plan
link to rehmat1.wordpress.com
Um, ok….
When I meant funny in my previous posts, I meant that strictly for the Saleem part of the story in this post.
I just read (and watched) the video of the size doesn’t matter, and i’m not impressed. not cute at all.
The video was embarassing. It was so lame.
No no it was funny, you’re supposed to think they’re discussing his dick when they are discussing Israel placed on his dick
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Soon we’ll learn that this Saleem character is set to marry Wafa Sultan.
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