I remember similar presentations last year trying to co-opt the campus divestment movement. Good luck with that. The Mondo reader who sent this along said, "This is a fascinating exercise in projection and denial."
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This is worse than the show South Park. This just sucks. It’s like an add for a airline.
How did the AIPAC conference find room for the Latina, the black woman, the Mormon and the rest, but there was no room for Phil Weiss?
its the difference of an illusion of diversity (based on skin phenotype) to project popularity, rather than a a diversity of opinions. AIPAC can’t tolerate those.
This projection of collectivized thought is, frankly, fodder for antisemites who go around asserting that “Jews think in unison on Israel.” The use of “self-hating” as a slur is one in the same – a slur that implies the same collective, and an admonishment for breaking away from the group. Its a horrible tool.
Someone explain how we can often read AIPAC supporters use these collective tropes to force people into their mode of thinking, then abuse the term anti-semitism itself in smearing critics of Israel?
Preempt their attacks by accusing them of anti-Semitism and by drawing a clear line between Jewish values and Israel’s hijacking of the religion.
They way AIPAC is both packaging itself as pro-Israeli, and their (and Netanyahu’s) conflations of Israel to Judaism, I’d say they are demonstrating the hijacking all by themselves.
Isn’t the Joke 2 jews, 3 opinions? AIPAC turns that into 1 opinion.
“by drawing a clear line between Jewish values”
And you will have a hundred Rabbis buzzing about your head, telling you that colonialism is Judaism’s highest value, along with despising the others, and they’ll have a hundred quotes to prove it. Why subject yourself to that?
Look, I don’t want to shock you, but Judaism has no values, not a single one. People have values, and they make their religion reflect their values.
So what you’re saying is that man created god in his own image?
That’s not a shocker at all.
That’s not a shocker at all. That’s because you’re thinking of ‘man’ as having the appearance of Harisson Ford. Now think about Popeye. I’ll stop now but you get the idea.
Wait a minute…..Harrison Ford is not that good looking. lol
I thought Popeye was a regular Appollo or something. You mean I ate all that spinach for nothing?
Okay, I’ve been lashing out about this for a couple of days, and I think I’ve finally clarified it in my own mind. And this is what it comes down to:
Israel has become, as all countries have in the modern era, much bigger than the religion of it’s people, even the favored ones. And (don’t take this wrong) as religions go, Judaism is not a big deal; uncentralised, not that many adherents, and with huge ruptures in its continuity. When analysing Israels actions, we really have no need to look to Judaism, it won’t tell us anything useful. To analyse Israel in terms of Judaism is to trivialise Israel’s actions.
Lemme put it this way: If every Jew in the world agreed with Zionism and Israel, and swore that Israel is right, and it’s maintenance and triumph the supreme act of Jewish worship, would that make it right ? And if, under that circumstance (universal Jewish approval for Israel) the Israeli government decided for other reasons (unspecified, political, economic, it doesn’t matter) to end Israeli intransigence, would that (the fact that all Jews aprove, on a religious or social basis, of the intransigence) make Israel wrong to end it? See what I mean?
I think it’s time to give Israel the position it rightfully deserves in the world scheme: We should acknowledge that countries can act in the most evil and stupid ways without any help at all from the countries religions. And the fact that Israel tries to use Judaism and the history of the Jews to excuse themselves doesn’t mean we have to fall for it.
Why would they have an anti Zionist Jew counter at their meeting? I thought they made a mistake letting him in last year.
Why Julian, it’s almost like you think they have something to be ashamed of, something to hide.
Mooser, didn’t KKK members use to meet in barns and out in the woods out of fear?
I wouldn’t know. As far as I know, Jews can’t join the KKK, and I have no idea where they meet, or why. You can always tell the bigoted bedwetters, though, they’re the ones wearing rubber sheets.
When you consider that the AIPAC meeting is 7 thousand Julians in one place, it’s obvious that they don’t want anyone exposed to the sight.
Changing from a lliterally entitled zionist organizatin to “AIPAC” changed
nothing at the core. The Kennedy brothers were both coincidentally murdered
before they could force our favorite organization to register a a lobby for a foreign nation. Those murders also coincidentally allowed Israel to obtain its nuclear arsenal and the bomb. Irony, Bobbie’s murder Sirhan was a Palestinian who had a newspaper article on his person lauding Bobbie for backing Israel’s antics at the time. And Jack’s murderer Ozwald was murdered by a Jewish zionist with mob ties before he spilled any beans. Johnson of course muzzled the attack on the USS Liberty.
“When you consider that the AIPAC meeting is 7 thousand Julians in one place,…”
They better order a couple truckloads of rubber sheets. Tell Julian I can get them for him, wholesale!
How about using the same BDS tactics, those which AIPAC advocates against Iran, but instead use them against AIPAC and Israel’s occupation of the West Bank, Gaza, and the Golan Heights?
Good idea. Whenever you BDS idiots try to boycott an Israeli product in the US it sells out. Please demonstrate against Israeli products as much as possible. Israel can use the cash.
I have yet to see any factual data to support that unsubstantiated claim. But, if it makes you feel better, then keep believing it.
glad you agree with bds.. now tell your zionist friends to adopt it and quit acting like chicken shits..
“‘Whenever you BDS idiots try to boycott an Israeli product in the US it sells out.”‘
If that were true, it would be because the outlet doesn’t bother replacing the stock.
“Israel can use the cash,” huh? Anyone notice how the worst offenders of propagating nasty Jewish stereotypes, are Zionists themselves?
AVI- I sometimes wonder if perhaps a major focus of pro-peace and justice in Israel/Palestine advocates ought to be more on AIPAC. When U.S. politicians go before AIPAC to grovel for campaign contributions, what would happen if they were confronted with 10,000 booing protesters? What if their presence and ingratiating speeches were publicized? What if their AIPAC campaign contributions were publicized? Etc?
Keith,
Indeed, AIPAC prefers to operate in the shadows, but as you and I know, they are not impervious to criticism or publicity. Vampires cannot survive in daylight, neither can AIPAC.
As an aside, with all the respect I have for Professor Chomsky, especially for his scholarly contribution to this world, I find it immoral that he continues to deny the existence of the lobby.
Keith and Avi
I also think its important to remember past victims. Sometimes its important to illustrate a pattern. Chas Freeman is one example. Some people remember Bush I. How many people remember how Charles W. Yost was victimized by the pro-Israeli lobby in 1970?
Theres others like him.
bob,
Are you responding in regard to Professor Chomsky? Let’s assume for a moment that he is avoiding the lobby issue for fear of getting derailed like others have been, why then, would he be unwavering in regard to the occupation, the siege and all of Israel’s other crimes.
Surely, Chas Freeman’s most egregious act was the mention of a fraction of what Chomsky discusses on a daily basis. So, if that is the motive behind Chomsky’s seeming apathy toward the lobby, then how come he still retains his professional position?
Personally, I believe that Chomsky is doing so on ideological ground. But, I could be wrong, given Professor Finkelstein’s own experience.
No. I really don’t have the time to get into that, either.
[putting hands up, palms open and facing bob].
OK. Sorry.
Don’t shoot. I’ve got three kids, man.
AVI- With all due respect, I think you have jumped on the anti-Chomsky bandwagon which misrepresents all of the evil in Israel/Palestine to “The Lobby.” Chomsky, who has made relatively little direct comment on the lobby, has instead chosen to emphasize that Israel’s actions are, in fact, U.S./Israel’s actions. This is no small matter. Continuing to over-emphasize Zionist lobby power is, in effect, to under-emphasize U.S. complicity. In this, I am in complete agreement with Chomsky. It ain’t just “them,” it’s “us” too.
Furthermore, in his few direct comments, Chomsky has provided hints that his view is much more nuanced than acknowledged by his critics. I vaguely recall him stating that at one level the lobby is vastly exaggerated, at another level it is UNDERESTIMATED! As stated, this is my view, however, since he didn’t elaborate I have no way of knowing if we are in agreement on this. My view is that the lobby is attempting to assume a coordinating function for Empire. The U.S. Empire now, the transnational corporate/financial empire of the near future.
Whoa, wait a second. That’s not fair. What bandwagon? All I’m saying is that I wish Chomsky would acknowledge the power the lobby has in US foreign relations.
It’s a moot subject. Forget it.
Chomsky, who has made relatively little direct comment on the lobby, has instead chosen to emphasize that Israel’s actions are, in fact, U.S./Israel’s actions. This is no small matter. Continuing to over-emphasize Zionist lobby power is, in effect, to under-emphasize U.S. complicity. In this, I am in complete agreement with Chomsky. It ain’t just “them,” it’s “us” too.
Keith, you are right that Chomsky can’t be dismissed outright. His book, the Fateful Triangle, correctly places the conflict as what it is (a US-Israel/Palestinian conflict). Any assessment of the conflict which divorces Israeli actions from its American enabler, and supporter, is simply flawed.
At the same time, it must be acknowledged that Chomsky’s denial of the is just as much a gaping hole in understanding the forces sustaining the conflict. That there is a special relationship between Israel and America (one that is undeniably the result of relentless lobbying on part of AIPAC) is something that is widely acknowledged by lobby itself and its critics. So, to deny it is a factor completely, to reduce what is easily the most powerful foreign-nationalistic lobby in the United States, as a “marginal irrelevancy” is not only disingenuous but indicative of Chomsky’s personal inclination to dismiss entirely an element which doesn’t figure into his political analysis — a criticism that is prevalent throughout his body of work.
I’m not going to elaborate on it too much, except for guiding you to a series of articles examining this bias by Jeffrey Blankfort which needs to be companion reading to Chomsky’s work.
No, its that I was leaving. I didnt have the time. No offense.
No offense taken. You don’t have to apologize about that either. There’s certainly no need to say “Sorry”.
Well, the internet is a place where tone, body language, etc. is lost, and hostility can be interpreted where thee is none. Sometimes its a good idea to just directly point things out, like my brevity was just because I had to leave.
Thanks for being friendly.
Group hug ya big lugs!… O come on don’t just stand there!
On the shelf, along with The Israel Lobby and The Transparent Cabal.
Chomksy never identifies specifically ‘who’ the US/Israel entity is. Like what the motivations are and whether the overlap is mostly Zionist or mostly ‘US’.
He’s vague and unconvincing.
“Well, the internet is a place where tone, body language, etc. is lost, and hostility can be interpreted where thee is none.”
Oh, don’t be such a complainer. You know as well as I do video comments will be here soon. Every roll of the eye and lift of the eyebrow will be available then.
“This is a fascinating exercise in projection and denial.”
It’s not fascinating. It’s a disgusting display of hypocrisy and double standards, one that permeates the Zionist movement so deeply that to stand on the platform and utter words such as:
“…this regime stands in stark contrast to the principles we were taught as proud Americans”
and not for a second think about its application to the country being blindly supported here, speaks of a level of denial that should be patented by the Zionists along with its monopoly over the Holocaust brand.
They consider themselves the ultimate victims.
Spoiled (sociopaths), self-righteous, religiously fanatic, children. ‘Chosen people’, etc. etc.
Boy these people are desperate.
To me, from here the words “Harvard” and “Leadership” are disconnected. It will take three presidents from them to restore that. Btw, great videoprojections, did you see?
eGuard,
Them young aipac’ers were surely scrapes from the bottom of the barrel. Don’t they teach students how to read fluent English at Harvard anymore? Evidently the intelligent jews of Harvard have out and out rejected aipac.
The poor basterds and bastardettes standing there on stage in their stiff sunday-best, so cumbersome and awkward like 5 year olds at a local flute recital.
This now the future face of aipac? I kept (smiling) wondering to myself.
At one point I closed my eyes from sheer desperate boredom. They sounded disturbingly robotic with my eyes close.
All in all, I felt sorry for them really. Like I feel sorry for the children of the taliban and the children of the kkk.
Anyway the VJ’s work looked hi-tec fancy yeah. Probably wasted on a bunch of squaros.
Witty what do you think about this?
“Witty what do you think about this? “‘
I hear crickets.
haha i assume he agrees on BDS of Iran
Witty only comes around on articles whereby he has footing with which to stage his smear campaign against the American left, and progressive Jews. Haven’t you noticed? So an article like this doesn’t even get through the filter. He doesn’t even know it exists, probably.
I’m stickin’ with my conclusion that Witty is about done here, Chaos. The arrival of several, and maybe even more, commenters who are familiar with the area, or even grew up there, or even worked for Israel for a time, pretty much did Witty in. And all the other poster were on to him, too. He was a feature of every thread, and then he sort of faded into the twilight of the Oh-my-Gawds.
Also, the fact that Witty considered himself too good to ally with the other Ziocaine addicts didn’t help.
My feeling is he is pretty over. Please, let’s not call him back, he’s very, very tiresome.
haha love this Mooser. I can understand Witty a bit, allying with yonira, Einstein and Julian is not an easy thing.
The video clip, young clean pressed youth standing at attention under the giant AIPAC banner;
reading their lines rigidly and crisply, like robots–they have a retro feel about them, and so does the carefully staged modernn event itself… they rattle off the names of their training camps and schools and pertly announce how they immediately set about putting their AIPAC training into action upon graduation, 1,2,3…
The Jungvolk and Hitler Youth did not simply grow up in the shadow of Hitler. They grew up with the comaraderie with fellow youngsters who fed their idealism and their “Kameradschaft”
They bought the package–they were indeed a special breed of people; they arose to the challenge like the Munich students before them who made speeches for the Fatherland a couple hours after the 3 White Rose students were beheaded for dropping over a school stairwell a handful of dissenting pamphlets… they cheered
when the janitor who turned them in was praised…
Citizen, it gets worse, too. Think about that Birthright trip to Israel, when the young AIPAC’er gives his innocence to an iron-thigh ed, but gentle sabra (gender, of course, of the AIPAC’ers choice. Hey us Zionists are all modren, liberated) and handles a machine gun, or maybe even a pick and shovel!
Citizen, you don’t know how close they came to getting me! It seemed like the only choice if I was ever gonna get laid, or shoot anybody (A privilege which became sort of equivocal when I was in danger of being drafted for Nam, later. They shoot back there! )
It was the Israeli folk dancing which opened my eyes. I saw that, and seemed to sense a chasm which led to a terrible fate opening at my feet, and ran screaming into the night, never to return. And they wore shorts! At the time, I thought of that as a terrible transgression on my human dignity. But that’s all gone, of course, and my knees are on display during the warmer months. Tank-tops? No, there is a limit, beyond which a person can no longer claim to be among the human fraternity, and that’s about it.