I received several different queries from friends about my recent post on academic boycott. Both Adam Horowitz and Sami Hermez, who has an excellent article about the difference between boycott and censorship at the Electronic Intifada, pointed out that the Palestinian Campaign for the Academic & Cultural Boycott of Israel (PACBI) seeks only to boycott institutions, not individuals. Consequently, I was asked to clarify my position on this issue.
My purpose in writing that essay was to describe the comprehensive moral framework for academic boycott. I feel strongly that our strategic decisions ought to be informed by purist principles. At the same time, our strategies are restricted by pragmatic considerations. The PACBI campaign is the tangible product of principles constrained by real-world application. I endorse their approach, but want to note that there is a sound moral basis for a broader boycott should it ever be deemed practicable by the interested parties.
How would this academic boycott affect Marwan Barghouti’s doctorate?
link to jpost.com
Well, since apparently you can’t fucking read, let me just get out the sock puppet.
Mr. Sock Puppet, how will BDS affect Marwan Barghouti’s doctorate?
“Oooh! Not at all! Woobie-woobie-woo!”
Did that help answer your question, yonira?
For those of you who can read:
(Emphasis added)
And then of course, the relevant links in the text above.
you are so clueless aren’t you Chaos, an Israeli educational institution facilitated Barghouti’s doctorate work, along with under-grad, grad, and post graduate work for any prisoner who wants it. Many of the prisoners can actually take their correspondence courses through Israeli educationalinstitutions.
I know your response will be something along the lines of ” Oh you didn’t bring up my sexual orientation, or you are a Nakba denier, or you are a neocon”(all of which are false and you know it). Perhaps just this one time, instead of making up a lie, you could address what I actually said?
University of Cairo.
Dumb ass.
I know you don’t understand how higher education works, yonira, and I’ll spare you the sock puppet. (My hand is tired). But as it happens, there is a significant difference between an academic being able to go out on his own after graduation, and an academic who is on the faculty of an institution and cooperating with other institutions as a member of that institution.
So, even if Barghouti’s degree was through a university in Tel Aviv, the boycott still wouldn’t affect him. At all.
Yonira,
What does a boycott of Israeli institutions and/or academics have to do with a Palestinian doing a doctorate at an Egyptian university?
See the post above Shmuel, w/ out the Israel Open University, he wouldn’t have been able to complete it. Also, as mentioned above, there are many prisoners who actually take courses directly from Israeli education institutions.
It doesn’t say that in the article, Yonira, and your question referred to Barghouti, not to other prisoners.
He wouldn’t be able to complete it… because otherwise, the apartheid laws under which he is unlawfully imprisoned would make it complete impossible to attend the University of Cairo even remotely. Because if it weren’t for Israel, you know, he could actually go to Cairo.
Yeah, way to make your point, yonira.
Shmuel,
It clearly states the Israel Open University in the article. And are you saying there aren’t Palestinian prisoners receiving degrees from Israeli institutions?
Do you believe a successful boycott of Israeli educational institutions wouldn’t adversely affect this program?
Barghouti was tried and convicted in a civilian court Chaos.
Over here, yonira. Before you make an even bigger idiot out of yourself.
…while living and working in Palestinian territory. By an Israeli civilian court.
Yeah, that’s not an abrogation of international law, huh.
Yonira,
The reference to the Open University in the article is about other prisoners, not Barghouti. Your question with regard to Barghouti was thus an irrelevant one.
If you are asking about other Palestinian prisoners now, I think that should be up to each individual, and I would respect either decision.
Here is another prime example where you’ll put hatred for Israel behind the well-being of Palestinians.
Yonira? THE BOYCOTT WON’T HURT PALESTINIANS. It won’t affect them. It won’t impact Barghoutti in the slightest.
Seriously, what is the matter with you?
Oh and what’s with the pause, now, yonira? Desperately polling your friends at Little Green Footballs or Jihad Watch for a reply?
Here is another prime example where you’ll put hatred for Israel behind the well-being of Palestinians.
Please do not pretend that you care about Palestinians.
Your crocodile tears and faked empathy is quite disgusting really.
LOL. Wow, I actually managed to underestimate yonira’s stupidity. I should have taken more time to read the article he posted before replying. That’s… I’m actually nonplussed.
Ahmed,
Thanks for the clarification. I didn’t get that from your original post.
I don’t understand how this clarifies anything.
Evildoer,
I think the clarification is that the principle Moor was calling for still stands, according to him. But that he supports the PACBI call and understands it for being a pragmatic and real world application of principles. Correct me if I’m wrong.
Yonira,
Palestinians can study at Israeli universities otherwise they would have no other chance to get higher education except to leave the country, which some people would like. The boycott does not call on boycotting Barghouti, just as it does not boycott a zionist per se (reading the call and the articles might help you before commenting). Barghouti would be boycotted, however, if he decided to do a joint project with an Israeli institution and under that pretext lecture in the US (as an example). The boycott is of Israeli institutions and so he would not be exempt for being Palestinian and collaborating with an Israeli institution.
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