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Student: "So, is Alan Dershowitz going to be here?"
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Boo on Berkeley, I simply cannot believe this place! Have you ever been to the zombietime blog? People have signs saying the most horrible things about Jews in their protests, how can that be moral? How can that be right?
When people say “Smash the Jewish State” on their signs in berkeley, that is just wrong.
Why are these so called humanist so appallingly terrible when it comes to the rights of Jews?
Unix,
There are also many Jews in the crowd. How do you feel that they are on the side of Israeli flag burners?
link to zombietime.com
Amazing isn’t it, also that these protesters had the foresight to protest over a year before divestment veto override was taking place?
Unix,
You asked:
“Why are these so called humanist so appallingly terrible when it comes to the rights of Jews?”
They are only so horrible to those Jews who believe that Jewish rights are greater than those of others, less important non-Jewish human beings.
So they are really not “appallingly terrible” to Jews but to racists who happen to be Jewish.
Eva,
What makes you more interested in the I/P conflict than in say what is going on in Chechnya or in Tibet?
Who says she isn’t interested in what goes on in Chechnya and Tibet.
It might shock you to know, eee, that the rest of the world doesn’t actually expoit human tragedy for their own profit. The Holocaust Industry is a uniquely Zionist enterprise. Those of us who have been speaking up about Israel have been speaking up about Sudan, Tibet, Somalia, the Congo, South Africa, the Mariana Islands, Saudi Arabia, Egypt and many, many other examples of human rights abuses for decades.
“What makes you more interested in the I/P conflict than in say what is going on in Chechnya or in Tibet? “‘
Who’s to say Eva is more interested.
Is that you’re only response every time you can’t stand the heat? Changhing the topic?
I don’t know about Eva, but in my case, although concerned about Chechnya or Tibet, I am indeed more concerned about the I/P conflict because as an American taxpayer I am compelled to support a fraud, whether I want to or not. US Senators and representatives do not fall all over each other trying to increase the US foreign aid welfare check for one party or the other in the Chechnya. The issues of Tibet and China are well addressed and covered in the US. We do not have the mainstream media claiming that China is bringing democracy to Tibet or US commentators claiming that the Chinese have the right to displace the Tibetans.
Get used to the fact that Americans are waking up to the reality that one third of the visible US foreign aid goes to a State that represents one tenth of one percent of the world’s population and is doing its best to involve us in a quarrel with one quarter of the world’s population.
eee,
You asked:
“What makes you more interested in the I/P conflict than in say what is going on in Chechnya or in Tibet?”
Many members of my family perished in Auschwitz, others survived camps like Ravensbrook. My grandparents were active in resistance. My grandmother was absolutely convinced that once ghettos are imposed and humans dehumanised, the genocide is inevitable. I happen to agree with her.
That explains why I spend more time worried about I/P than Chechnya or Tibet. Israel’s path towards genocide of natives is more advanced.
“‘People have signs saying the most horrible things about Jews in their protests, how can that be moral?’
You keep referign to imaginary signs like Smash Israle, whicjh apear nowhere.
It must be the Zioncaine that is causing hallucinations.
“It must be the Zioncaine that is causing hallucinations.”
If only it didn’t cause amnesia, too. Maybe they wouldn’t repeat themselves all over again, every day until they get their dose.
Read this post somewhere else here before, today. All OK Unix? Sure you don’t need a nuuuuurse?
…who needs enemas?
I had to say that. It’s in the Prophylacteries.
UNIX/BSDNOW, can you kindly cite a source for the sign? I think if you followed the live-tweeting by Jews for Peace, you would have seen that the debate was impassioned, but generally respectful. Who exactly was “appallingly terrible to the rights of the Jews?” My understanding is that more than 500 Jewish students were represented by the on-campus peace groups.
What Berkeley is telling you is that there’s a global paradigm shift since the IDF killed 1,300 people in Operation Cast Lead. There will be a thousand Berkeleys across the nation in the next 24 months, and AIPAC can’t undermine democracy in all of them.
The LA Times has a godawful op-ed by Benny Morris
The headline is “When Armageddon lives next door”
Right off the bat he lies about Ahmadinejad wanting to wipe out Israel and Israelis:
I take it personally: Iran’s president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, wants to murder me, my family and my people. Day in, day out, he announces the imminent demise of the “Zionist regime,” by which he means Israel. And day in, day out, his scientists and technicians are advancing toward the atomic weaponry that will enable him to bring this about.
Next step, Nazis and the Holocaust. Shame on the LAT for printing such garbage.
Well, we’re talking about the man who justified ethnic cleansing. Flat out.
I agree, it’s awful to say bad things about Jews, or the Jewish religion. But a state? It’s open season on a state. People can say the most awful things, plot your dismemberment or destruction, for good reasons, bad reasons, or no reason at all. You should hear what people have said about the Germans and Russians at different times, and what they say about Arabs today.
Now, aren’t you glad you tied your religion up with what it means to thrust a colonial state into the Middle East? What a wonderful and profitable decision that was for Judaism, and the world! Why when I think of the fact that it benefits a small coterie of Zionist leaders and hangers-on in America, I am so proud!