Scary, huh? This is Izzet Sahin, founder of a human rights office in the West Bank, arrested by Israel last week as he was passing through the Bethlehem checkpoint--and then taken into Israel. Oh, and he's a Hebrew student.
Who's reporting on this in the U.S., beside JVP and Sahin's group IHH, which is out of Europe?
Israeli authorities have taken Izzet Sahin, the representative and founder of IHH (The Foundation for Human Rights and Freedoms and Humanitarian Relief)’s Office in West Bank, into custody on the 27th of April.
Sahin was transferred to Ashkelon prison following his stay in the detention center of Israel Security Agency (ISA). Nobody has heard from him since the day he was arrested. No reason has been declared by the Israeli officials for Sahin’s arrest, who has been studying Hebrew in the Hebrew University.
He is clearly an anti-semitic Israel hater. Why, he was probably going to destabilize and bludgeon Israel with that maximalist balloon.
Jewish terror suspect ‘unfit to stand trial’
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Settlers devise new strategy to scare away Palestinian neighbors
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Jewish settlers blamed for fire in West Bank mosque
from the Mondoweiss blogroll:
More on Jewish colonial terrorism in the Occupied Palestinian Territories … Readers should note that Israeli government political, financial, and economic sponsorship of colonies makes these kinds of acts state-sponsored terrorism.
Israeli Settler Terrorists Plan more Mosque Burnings, Juan Cole, Informed Comment
On a slightly different note:
Who is Changing the Regional Balance of Power?, Joshua Landis, Syria Comment
my prayers are with Izzet and his family. a brave, brave man.
Here are a couple of links to stories on Mr. Sahin’s website.
Beit Sahour Professor Faces Arrest by Israeli Military for Non-violent Protest
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A Day in the Life of an Israeli Rabbi for Human Rights
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Like all Fascism, it becomes the logic of the snake eating its own tail.
This, from CM, bears repeating:
Although in the international law (formulated after WW II to prevent a repetition of the crimes of the Nazis) it is illegal for an occupying Power to import its own citizens into an Occupied territory, the Israeli government has since 1973 been sponsoring large colonies on the West Bank, involving massive theft of Palestinian land and resources, including water.
And this too, again from CM:
The US is asking that Syria cede to Israel the Golan Heights, which it occupied in 1967. When Israel seized the Heights, it forced some 100,000 Syrian inhabitants to evacuate their homes and abandon their villages. Farms were turned over to Israeli colonists, who have, not surprisingly, done well on the rich Syrian land that gets plenty of water. Israel annexed the Golan in 1981, which the UN condemned in resolution 497.
That the US government can go along with this is a testament to how corrupt the US government is. If the US government gets itself into a third war against a muslim country, Iran, given also the current US economy made by Goldman Sachs & Fed/Treasury/SEC, my hope is that the Military Draft will be resumed. I can’t imagine a new Audie Murphy emerging–thanks to the internet, not the public license abusing Fourth Estate.
I have known many American Jews that look just like Izzet Sahin. Yeah, it’s terrifying. Growing up in fly-over country, of course, they were all dismissed as nerds. In turn, they took their shame out in Hollywood. Still, a film is merely cultural occupation; look to who’s actually dying and getting maimed
in the Middle East, American or not. Nothing like creating insanity under the rubric of beign police power.
The problem of Sahin is dual loyalty. How can he be an American and serve the Palestinian cause? This could really backfire on the Palestinian community in the US. Tsk, tsk.
Not difficult, eee. Look at Rahm I. US law on dual loyalty was changed by a Jew; the Pals can just jump on the bandwagon.
Fuck you, you child-murdering fake Jew settler.
“Fuck you, you child-murdering fake Jew settler.”
Chaos, do you have any evidence I murdered any child? If yes what is it?
Since I have never killed any child it is clear you are bigot, a liar, a slanderer and just a filthy piece of Aryan Brotherhood shit.
Whatever. Some day Jews are going to look back on what Israel was with complete and abject shame. Sooner or later, your shitty little terrorist state is going to brought to justice. The Israelis who can see the writing on the wall — the educated ones, by and large, according to statistics — are already packing up and leaving, and pretty soon the charge card bill you’re running up with Uncle Sam is going to come due.
Enjoy the judenreich while it lasts. Because I suspect we’re both going to live to see the end of it within our lifetimes. The world will not put up with Israeli barbarians attacking every Palestinian they can get their hands on, especially the peaceful humanitarians like the one in this article.
i’m not a dual loyalty phobist like you, consider it a failure in my programing. it’s just another anti semitism canard designed to intimidate people from pointing out the obvious.
eee, how many kids did you kill?
Seriously though. Sahin is most probably a US citizen. Cannot you guys find ONE Congress person to inquire about him and write a letter to the US government thus making this news? Ron Paul? Kucinich? Must be others I don’t know about. Are you so powerless that you cannot recruit ONE Congress person to your cause? Pathetic.
so shunned equals unworthy. You need to add a step or two to your argument, boobeee.
Hamodi,
The argument is obvious to all people not in early stages of Alzheimer. You cannot find one Congress person to back you because your cause stinks. Unless of course you can provide a good explanation why no Congress person can be made interested in this.
In any case, you should see your physician, tell him/her that eee suspects you have a mild dementia.
LOL.
Congress isn’t attracted to worthy causes anymore than they are hesitant of “causes that stink” (Although I think it is worth noting that you believe equal rights for Palestinians is something you condemn to ‘stinking’). The vast majority are attracted to causes that will not jeopardize their re-election. In practice this usually results in plenty of pork and ‘feel good’ bills and resolutions. It also causes them to pay attention to the constituency knowing that most people are one or two issue voters whose opinions really cannot be swayed in the issue….ie: they can get away with voting most anyway so as long as they vote for (or against) abortion, for (or against) gun rights, and for (or against) gay marriage depending on what the majority of constituents feel (ie: the majority that will get the re elected).
Voting on issues that will get them re elected also opens up the power of any lobby with a lot of money (and influence considering the shit they pull off in this country) like AIPAC.
“Hamodi, ”
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Watch the barely veiled racism at work here! By addressing kapok with an Arabic name it’s supposed to be a put down..Not that a proof is needed mind you!
Idiot, hamodi is literally “my cute one” and is a term of endearment in Hebrew.
Gee, you’ll have to forgive us, eee. Most of the Jews here are much more familiar with Yiddish, not surprisingly. After all, Modern Hebrew is basically synthesize a few decades ago as one part actual Hebrew, one part disguised Yiddish and one part phrases borrowed from Arabic.
where’d you get your info from chaos, got any sources?
Chaos the slandering liar and Aryan Brotherhood filth,
You are also an ignoramus and a prize idiot. Modern Hebrew has very few phrases of Yiddish and very few phrases of Arabic, mostly in the slang. Go read about a person call Eliezer Ben-Yehuda.
Only if you guys go read Shlomo Sands.
Oh, well, then pardon me my unfamiliarity with your tongue because incidently, it’s an Arabic name..
“my name is hamodi”
link to perfspot.com
No, we cannot, eee. We are still waiting for our own US Congress to really look into the attack on the USS Liberty by Israel in 1967, not to mention the IDF’s murder of the civil protester Rachel Corrie with a bulldozer paid for by US taxpayers.
I agree, eee, the average US citizen is truly pathetic. Hopefully, if you keep up your antics, the USA general public might eventually wake up.
You are pathetic. You can use the Freedom of Information Act to get all the information about the USS Liberty through the courts if you don’t have it already. Are the US courts dysfunctional also?
If eee wants to argue that it’s the dysfunction and corruption of the US political process which keeps support for Israeli intransigence so high, I don’t think he will find any opponents here.
And of course, that makes the Israel policy dependent on and the product of that corruption and dysfunction, and I appreciate him being honest about that.
Israel has nothing to fear except a lessening of American political dysfunction and corruption. Makes you proud to be a Zionist, huh?
>> Israel has nothing to fear except a lessening of American political dysfunction and corruption.
Despite his protestations to the contrary, I suspect eee would liken the lessening of American political dysfunction and corruption – and the corresponding reduction of aid to Israel – to…oh, I don’t know, let’s say to the “bludgeoning of Israel by anti-semitic Israel haters”. Which – if he qualifies as a member of the “dissident community”, is rather maximalist and destabilizing.
the “bludgeoning of Israel by anti-semitic Israel haters”
yep, that about wraps it. not too original but it gets the job done.
double yawn.
So, in Israel, eee, you have partial access to government information as we do here in the USA? In the USA for example, although the US Congress voted to dismiss the Goldstone Report (with nobody, apparently, reading it except Baird), our Congress also decided not to publish that Report in the Congressional Record, which would have been customary. BTW, it costs considerable money to get documents through the FOI here in the states. And when you get them, they are often heavily
redacted. Is it the same in Israel?
Of course, here in the USA, we do have a Constitution, complete with a Bill Of Rights. And we do have a SCOTUS with real power sufficient to
override US legislation deemed contrary to that Constitution. I understand in Israel that’s not so. Correct?
“You cannot find one Congress person to back you because your cause stinks.”
During Reagan’s tenure, you couldn’t find any Congresspeople to back Mandella either.
“Unless of course you can provide a good explanation why no Congress person can be made interested in this.”
No Congress person is interested in Darfur or the Congo either.
Yes eee, and keep in mind, that those who do not allow change by peaceful means will be subject to the peoples will in other less peaceful ways. If the so-called rulers in America want to make the country a jungle, let them keep in mind that the most powerful and vicious animal in the jungle is the people –
WELCOME
My nation’s Supreme Court has no native Americans, no Indians, no Asians, one black and soon no WASPS. I expect the Jewish count will be three. Congratulations. You control one third of the highest judicial body in my nation’s country and all the justices in Israel, the homeland of the Jewish nation. You have done quite well. I am sure God is proud of your leadership as a Kingdom of Ministers to morally enlighten us goyim for all eternity. I do hope you can maintain your supremacy. It is, after all, God’s eternal will, no? And we are surely all the better for your enlightened Jewish leadership and direction rather than our own unenlightened leadership, are we not?
Isn’t Anat Kam under arrest for disseminating information pre-cleared by Military censors? Isn’t Uri Blau hoping he isn’t forceably repatriated to his home country to face prosecution?
The Shin Bet probably found terrorist connections so he was taken into custody on national security grounds. He won’t be tortured or killed like happens to dissidents in Arab countries, Iran and Pakistan. Israel is by Middle Eastern standards, a humane society.
“The Shin Bet probably found terrorist connections so he was taken into custody on national security grounds.”
Yes, why would we have any reason to doubt the integrity and honesty of Shin Bet?
“He won’t be tortured or killed like happens to dissidents in Arab countries, Iran and Pakistan.”
Yes, thank God for small mercies right Norman?
Sanctioning Terror: Israeli Death Squads and Torture Chambers
link to web.mit.edu
“Israel is by Middle Eastern standards, a humane society.”
Yes, Israel’s cup of humanity overfloweth.
link to ingaza.wordpress.com
more palestinian death porn.
good source too….
Have you ever been to Gaza yoni? Nah, you are just jerking off to death porn, take a seat next to your buddy Dershowitz –
TAKE A SEAT
How come whenever you see a Palestinian suffering, you mock it?
I think that the Israeli human rights group b’tselem is calling you a lier.
link to btselem.org
Sure NormanF, and the USA pays plenty to make sure those regimes remain intact, so the people can be fleeced of every benefit. Oh, but what happens when it will not be taken any more? They pay plenty to give us the bullshit that says Israel is “humane,” and than there are little pricks like you who spread the lies through the echo chamber. Tell me how much better you are Uncle Moses, how much you provide for us, until you are brought down like all the other colonial oppressors.
Norman writes:
He won’t be tortured or killed like happens to dissidents in Arab countries, Iran and Pakistan. Israel is by Middle Eastern standards, a humane society.
I think we should acknowledge the humanity that Norman is pointing out here. It is true that in many other countries around the world and also in the ME, someone like Sahim would be taken out and shot. Israel does not do that (at least once they are brought into custody).
Israel is much more civilized. Their interrogations (sensory and sleep deprivation, “shakings”) may seem extreme to us in the west but the Palestinian suspects come out of these experiences without overt sphysical signs of torture. We should sympathize with Israel’s dilemma today: a new generation of Palestinian activists are starting to use the tactics of non-violence. Before they could be shot on the spot. Today they must be submitted to the Israeli justice system (and as we all know, justice is a very expensive and inefficient way to resolve ethnic disputes). But this does not change the underlying fact — the Zionist have been stealing Palestinian lands for 60 years now and the painful fact remains that the inhabitants are continuing to protest. It is a dilemma — kill um or jail um, my god how can we make this problem go away.
Correct Norman. The Shin Bet has never murdered a Jewish political dissenter in custody yet.
However, a number of Palestinians have died in custody from Shin Bet torture and abuse while other are regularly subject to mistreatment and beatings. So yes Israel is not quite like the other Mideast regimes, Israel applies its barbarity selectively and with a strong racist element.
Miss Dee Mena,
Who was the last Palestinian to have died in custody from Shin-Bet torture?
And apropos the racist element, can you explain how come African Americans are so over represented in American jails? You know that about 10% of African-American males aged 18-29 are in jail relative to only 1.5% of whites? Do you think this has anything to do with racism in the US justice system?
Are all Israelis such cowards that they have to dwell in the shadow of “big brother” United States?
Oh, that’s right, some Israelis are actually quite brave. Like our own Shmuel.
The US is the world superpower and trend setter. If you want to change anything in the world, fix your own home first.
Well, thanks to the Israeli knife that’s sticking out of our back, that first statement isn’t going to be true for very much longer.
I am so glad eee is seeing the light, just like the last time he kept up these recitations about America. When will you join the resistance to Israel eee? We are beginning to see how much you despise this activity by your posts. What is that? You are not going to start nor support change in Israel, and you are just using these examples in a cynical fashion, almost begging to be able to commit the same oppression to the point of genocide? Well at least we know one thing, you are totally cognizant of what is being done (look at how exact your remarks are) – but you want to do the same and worse acts? Thank you for giving such a complete recitation of your intentions, it is enough to have you jailed for life.
This neverending conflict has screwed my head up so much that I look at that picture of people I would love to have as my neighbors and I start to tear up because I’m afraid some band of ruthless indoctrinated a-holes will harm them with high explosives, or sniper rounds, or armored bulldozers, or pummeling with fists, or poisoning their environment, or starving their neighborhoods, or just by their G_ddamned callous sense of entitlement and superiority by way of birth (heritage, not location).
These are the people that the ethically stunted Chuck Schumer says would deserve whatever they get (guilt by association) and with every bone in his body would be willing to break every bone in their bodies to teach them a lesson they won’t forget (or remember either as they would be no more).
LanceThruster, I had one of those moments three hours ago with what our forces are doing to the Afghans. Read: start fourth paragraph down. You only need to read three paragraphs.
link to original.antiwar.com
Good piece MRW. I remember seeing some photo links early on from Afghanistan (could have been from the Robert Fisk site) and Northern Alliance members were abusing a captured Taliban, including what appeared to e genital mutilation as a deep red bloodstain was spreading from his crotch of his garment and he was desperately pleading as the others looked on and laughed. I thought the captions must be backwards because if the”good guys” are doing horrible things such as this, they’re no longer the good guys.
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Guys, we really, really need to start ignoring eee. He is accomplishing his main objective of dirtying up threads to turn off new potential readers. He can only do this with our cooperation; he waves his racism like a bullfighter’s red flag and we charge.
I agree, Colin. People do so that newbies wont think we are agreeing with him; however, that can be solved by placing a notice every 18″ that 3e is a troll.
When 3e first got here and appeared incapable of anything but incoherent babbling about Mexico and Native Americans, I (on behalf of the august membership of TWAC) awarded him a much-coveted Trollie, and recommended that he be ignored. He has since turned out to be a mixed-bag. He still harps on the “shouldn’t you be doing something else” meme and other weapons of mass distraction, but has also actually contributed (mostly unintentionally) to the development of various relevant discussions. Although he is often abusive, he rarely throws the first punch in terms of really offensive language. He’s obviously here for the hasbara, but a little honesty manages to seep through from time to time.
In short, I suggest a policy of positive reinforcement – encouraging reasonable comments, while ignoring provocations and distractions. Lies and spin can simply be refuted with facts.
Seems to me eee’s most constant theme amounts to, “Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone.” Rather than defend the policies of Israel subjected to criticism on this blog, he accuses the American critics of hypocrisy in view of their own history and his assumption that, in essence, it’s human nature to choose to save one’s own as first priority, even if that means sacrifice of those of The Other. He does this as a self-proclaimed atheist who is also a jewish Israeli. It’s hard not to conclude he is not a believer in Darwin’s survival of the fittest, and too, in the political philosophy of blood and iron, of
Might Makes Right. His is a guiltless world, for after all, who has not sinned, or at least benefited from sin. A stone is a dangerous weapon, same as a Merkahva tank’s cannon or an F-16 or Apache helicpter spewing white phosprous.
He also accuses said American critics of Israeli policy as less than sincere because they appear to him to not do whatever needs to be done to effectively change the will of the enabling American public as expressed by their own elected and and appointed representatives, and in polls. He must know the results of those polls have been tilting away from knee-jerk love of Israel, especially since the Gaza Turkey Shoot, and that’s despite the fact the US MSM pretty much ignored those fish in that barrel.
Anyeay, here’s a recent piece about the monster on Holyland hill:
link to counterpunch.org
It does have a free market flavor to it.
Why, it’s almost like Chicago politics, this Holyland hill:
link to haaretz.com
Have you ever seen a FOIA document? If its anything remotely important it looks like a crossword puzzle with very few spaces to fill in. As far as the benign treatment of security detainees I’ll post some links from Ralph Schoneman’s book later. I’m out and have limited dexterity with the mobile. I can assure you they are the most exquisitely cruel methods.
link to marxists.de
I’m sorry I mispelled Ralph’s name as I’m won’t to do with these vowel combinations, Latin names are easier for me prolly cause I haz one lol. This is quite difficult to read.
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