Petraeus emails show general scheming with journalist to get out pro-Israel storyline

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Last March General David Petraeus, then head of Central Command, sought to undercut his own testimony before the Senate Armed Services Committee that was critical of Israel by intriguing with a rightwing writer to put out a different story, in emails obtained by Mondoweiss.

The emails show Petraeus encouraging Max Boot of Commentary to write a story– and offering the neoconservative writer choice details about his views on the Holocaust:

Does it help if folks know that I hosted Elie Wiesel and his wife at our quarters last Sun night?!  And that I will be the speaker at the 65th anniversary of the liberation of the concentration camps in mid-Apr at the Capitol Dome…

Petraeus passed the emails along himself through carelessness last March. He pasted a Boot column from Commentary’s blog into in an "FYI" email he sent to an activist who is highly critical of the U.S.’s special relationship with Israel. Some of the general’s emails to Boot were attached to the bottom of the story. The activist, James Morris, shared the emails with me.

The tale:

Back on March 13, Mark Perry broke the explosive story that Gen. David Petraeus was echoing Joe Biden’s view that the special relationship with Israel is endangering Americans. Perry said that Petraeus had sent aides to the head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff in the White House to tell him that the U.S.’s inability to stand up to Israel was hurting Americans across the Middle East. Perry reported that Petraeus was asking that Israel and Palestine be included under his Central Command (rather than under Europe, as they are now).

On March 16, neocon Max Boot, who is on the Council of Foreign Relations and holds militarist pro-Israel views (he’s an American Jew born in Russia), sought to refute Perry’s post at the Commentary blog:

"I asked a military officer who is familiar with the briefing in question and with Petraeus’s thinking on the issue to clarify matters. He told me that Perry’s item was ‘incorrect.’"

Boot quoted the unnamed officer at some length apologizing for Israel:

he did not suggest that Petraeus was mainly blaming Israel and its settlements for the lack of progress. They are, he said, “one of many issues, among which also is the unwillingness to recognize Israel and the unwillingness to confront the extremists who threaten Israelis.” That’s about what I expected: Petraeus holds a much more realistic and nuanced view than the one attributed to him by terrorist groupie Mark Perry.

I suspect this unnamed officer was Petraeus himself– based on the emails. But we’ll get to them in a minute.

That same day, Tuesday, March 16, Petraeus testified before Congress, and on Thursday the 18th, MJ Rosenberg at Media Matters wrote a piece celebrating Petraeus’s realist views on Israel/Palestine. He  noted that Petraeus is spoken of as a Republican candidate for President and contrasted Petraeus’s views to Sarah Palin’s .

Speaking about the Israeli-Palestinian issue before the Senate Armed Services Committee on Tuesday, Petraeus said:

"The enduring hostilities between Israel and some of its neighbors present distinct challenges to our ability to advance our interests… Israeli-Palestinian tensions often flare into violence and large-scale armed confrontations. The conflict foments anti-American sentiment, due to a perception of U.S. favoritism for Israel. Arab anger over the Palestinian question limits the strength and depth of U.S. partnerships with governments and peoples in the [region] and weakens the legitimacy of moderate regimes in the Arab world. Meanwhile, al-Qaeda and other militant groups exploit that anger to mobilize support. The conflict also gives Iran influence in the Arab world through its clients, Lebanese Hizballah and Hamas…."

So Petraeus is telling us that American interests — and Americans in uniform — are threatened by the Israeli-Palestinian status quo and that Iran, Hizballah, and Hamas benefit from it.

That’s pretty straightforward. 

Now we get to the emails. At 2:18 p.m. the day Rosenberg’s story ran, Michael Gfoeller, a State Department Policy Advisor who serves the Central Command, forwarded the story to David Petraeus, "Subject: FW: On the Middle East: It’s Palin vs Petraeus."

Gfoeller’s message was short: "Sir: FYI. Mike."

Nineteen minutes later, at 2:37, Petraeus sent the story along to Max Boot (I’ve eliminated addresses):

From: Petraeus, David H GEN MIL USA USCENTCOM CCCC/CCCC
To: Max Boot
Subject: FW: On the Middle East: It’s Palin vs Petraeus

As you know, I didn’t say that.  It’s in a written submission for the
record…

Petraeus meant that the comments weren’t in his testimony. But they were in a 56-page document, titled "Statement of General David H. Petraeus, U.S. Army Commander, US Central Command before the Senate Armed Services Committee on the posture of US Central Command, 16 Mar 2010."  

Four minutes later, at 2:31, Boot responded to Petraeus. No need to say Sir:

Oh brother. Luckily it’s only media matters which has no credibility but
think I will do another short item pointing people to what you actually
said as opposed to what’s in the posture statement.

Six minutes pass.

From: Petraeus, David H GEN MIL USA USCENTCOM CCCC/CCCC
2:37

Thx, Max.  (Does it help if folks know that I hosted Elie Wiesel and his
wife at our quarters last Sun night?!  And that I will be the speaker at
the 65th anniversary of the liberation of the concentration camps in
mid-Apr at the Capitol Dome…)
 

2:45, Boot:

No don’t think that’s relevant because you’re not being accused of being
anti-Semitic.

2:57, Petraeus:

Roger! :-)

That’s military talk. The emoticon means, I’m running for President.

Max Boot is as quick as a duck on a junebug. By 3:11 he had filed a story on the Commentary blog, titled, "A Lie: David Petraeus, Anti-Israel." It attacked "misleading commentary that continues to emerge, attributing anti-Israeli sentiment to Gen. David Petraeus." It dismissed the "posture statement" as a filing from "Petraeus’s staff," even though, as M.J. Rosenberg emphasized to me, "That is his official statement, to be attributed to the record, and it was cleared." 

Instead, Boot offered Petraeus’s (mealymouthed) oral testimony at the hearing to a John McCain question, in which he said the transfer of Israel and Palestine to Central Command was just something staffers had discussed, he downplayed Israel/Palestine as a source of tension, though he allowed that he was encouraging the peace process because of the "effect that it has on particularly what I think you would term the moderate governments in our area."

Boot, who seems to want Israel to hold the occupied territories forever, concluded,

"General Petraeus obviously doesn’t see the Israeli-Arab ‘peace process’ as a top issue for his command, because he didn’t even raise it in his opening statement. When he was pressed on it, he made a fairly anodyne statement about the need to encourage negotiations to help moderate Arab regimes. That’s it. He didn’t say that all settlements had to be stopped or that Israel is to blame for the lack of progress in negotiations. And he definitely didn’t say that the administration should engineer a crisis in Israeli-U.S. relations in order to end the construction of new housing for Jews in East Jerusalem."

Enter activist James Morris.

Morris has long been a tiger on the question of whether Israel’s security motivated the disastrous decision to invade Iraq. I met him in 2005 or so when he left an American Enterprise Institute function after asking Richard Perle about the "Clean Break" paper he wrote for Netanyahu and his own Israel agenda in the U.S. government. Morris runs the website "Neocon Zionist Threat to America" and is a regular call-in questioner on CSPAN and at public events. He sends emails all the time to people in authority– network correspondents and policymakers. He is always polite, but his emails are long and filled with links. Sometimes people respond to him.

On March 19, Morris sent Petraeus an email congratulating him on his views on Israel/Palestine. And the same day, Petraeus responded to Morris with one word, "FYI", and the Commentary piece by Boot.

The commanding general obviously didn’t realize it, but his copy of the Commentary piece was pasted in above his email correspondence with the author, Max Boot, and Gfoeller. 

On March 20, James Morris wrote back to Petraeus to try and engage some more. This time Petraeus sent him this note:

"Thanks, James. Frankly, I’d like to let all this die down at this point, if that’s possible! All best -"

Morris wrote back, "I understand, but please keep in mind (which I am sure you do anyway) the consequences if the Israel lobby is successful in getting US into another war for Israel with Iran. Also please keep in mind that your staff was spot on with what was conveyed in that posture report…."

James Morris first shared the exchange with me in May. My bad; I didn’t read it. Then after the McChrystal blow-up last week, he bugged me in his subject line, Did you read my exchange with Petraeus, and this time I had a look.

210 Responses

  1. Les
    July 2, 2010, 12:29 pm

    Which explains why the war against Iran is still going forward.

    • Psychopathic god
      July 2, 2010, 1:57 pm

      It’s a shame idiots like Sean Hannity have eroded the meaning of “patriotic American.” I’ve known James Morris for a number of years; he is a genuine Patriotic American. His persistence and dogged determination to hold US policymakers to account are impressive; he will be among those good guys to whom history will point when the dust of zionized America settles and the survivors attempt to rebuild the US in the image of its founding. Jim’s style — the long, long emails — are sometimes overwhelming, but they seem to have paid off by ferreting out this Smoking Gun from Petraeus.

      Boot is repugnant.

      • VR
        July 2, 2010, 6:14 pm

        “…when the dust of zionized America settles and the survivors attempt to rebuild the US in the image of its founding.”

        What image is that Psychopathic god?

      • Psychopathic god
        July 2, 2010, 6:44 pm

        the image in my head.

        I believe zionism will destroy the US.

        I don’t care one wit(ty) whether Israel survives or not; probably better if it’s bombed to the stone age. In that event, then, truly, Jews can relive their status in their ancient homeland. /s

      • VR
        July 2, 2010, 7:06 pm

        “the image in my head”

        The “image” in your head with the ending of “the founding fathers” is complete nonsense. That is the short answer, I am not going to unpack it “again” on this post.

        As far as the sentiments about Israel, it does not deserve to exist on its current course (this does not mean it should be “bombed into the stone age”).

      • azythos
        July 2, 2010, 8:35 pm

        “(this does not mean it should be “bombed into the stone age”)”

        It’s not just about returning a stupid, barbarian slogan to its sender. Let’s get real: if the Zionist thing continues to act mad, keep nukes and push for generalized war it’s gonna get what it wished for. Even with Sugardaddy fighting in their stead, they’re not on this side of the Ocean. Can anyone guarantee that things won’t go that far before the nonsense stops?

        Put it in a frame of reference that I readily understand, one is extremely upset by what stubbornness in war did to the population of Germany under the Nazis but, all the same, I’m very happy it wasn’t the other way around.

      • Psychopathic god
        July 3, 2010, 3:14 pm

        I don’t recall asking you a question, VR. As for nonsense, I have no sense of what point you are trying to make.

        I believe zionism will destroy the US.
        When it does, hopefully, there will be survivors.

        The survivors, among whom I hope will be people like James Morris, Petras, Jeff Blankfort, the spirit of Howard Zinn, etc., will, if the universe is kind, emerge from the dust of the zionist implosion to rebuild the US on the framework of the Italian enlightenment humanism that inspired Jefferson, Madison, Adams — the founding fathers.

        capisco?

      • VR
        July 3, 2010, 4:03 pm

        No, no capiso – because it was absolute nonsense. Do yourself a favor and read Howard Zinn’s book A Peoples History Of The United States, he would roll over in his grave. Whereas an implosion may occur under Zionist activity, I assure you that it was allowed because of the intended framework of the “founding Fathers.” I do not need any questions to address a post, that is what exchange is for on the site, if someone does not want a response than they should not post in public.

        As far as what azythos said, the Nazis did not get as far and do as much damage as wholesale Western Imperialism has done – to be frank they are mere pikers. To imply anything else is to either be ignorant of world historical narrative (reality), or to subject the whole of history to your personal desire citing WW2 on what might have been. If indeed a global conflagration does arise it will not just be Israel, but the USA on this current course that is on the wrong side of history.

      • James
        July 3, 2010, 4:28 pm

        vr – i agree with you that the usa is also on the wrong side of history at this point and have been for some time… of course the continued support for zionism is one of the more pronounced sides to this, but it shows up in many other areas too…

        ot – regarding the new york times, or what i referred to as the ‘ho hum times’ on a previous thread, glenn greenwald has a good article up on them today.
        link to salon.com

      • VR
        July 3, 2010, 4:31 pm

        One other point on mentioning Howard Zinn, whereas I respect his analysis, as I do Chomsky, I do not believe that the perpetual seesaw (sometimes they win, and sometimes we win minor concessions) is the best we can do. I also do not believe that the people automatically take the spoils after the impending doom has struck (pg’s claim), because any reading of history is apparent that when elites are in control, and a country is shoved off the edge, it is the self-same elites that worked such designs that intend to tyrannically take over so the people have no recourse.

      • VR
        July 3, 2010, 4:36 pm

        James I agree with you that there is a confluence of interests, and currently the more apparent is that of Zionisms thrust. I will read Mr. Greenwald’s post.

      • goldhoarder
        July 3, 2010, 4:54 pm

        Your opinion is complete nonsense. The founding fathers vision led to state with minimal poverty and more freedom than any state previously on the planet. Whatever crimes were committed… Indian slaughter… Slavery… As bad and unnecessary as it was pales in comparison to the crimes commited by industriailized warfare of the ladt century… And this all happened after slavery ended! Lol. The Apartheid state of Israel is a joke. There are too few jews and too many muslims for that conflict to be settled the way the indian conflict was settled. Eventually the indians were out manned and were always outgunned… Ain’t gonna happen that way for Israel. As for slavery…. Slavery went out of fashion with the invention of the steam engine… Not because the world became populated with self important pricks like urself…lol. Easy to criticize the founders in 2010. Still… As i sad before… They founded a society that estaclished the strongest middle class in world history. It is dying now as forseen in George Washington’s farewell address. What have you done for this country than spout off a bunch of nonsense on a blog

      • Psychopathic god
        July 3, 2010, 10:30 pm

        vr – do yourself a favor and read the US Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution & Bill of Rights. Howard Zinn has an interesting perspective on the founding of the US, but I didn’t notice that he put at risk his “life, his fortune, his sacred honor.” He’s a critic, a gadfly, but not a creator. He didn’t do the heavy lifting.
        I agree that the US is has and is seriously fallen short of its grandest ideals. At the risk of repeating myself, James Morris is one among those American patriots who see their mission as calling the US back to its ideals.

      • demize
        July 3, 2010, 11:05 pm

        I’m just going to jump in and register my concurrence with VR here. There were never “salad days” in this country. It’s been one exploitative exersize after another. We happen to be in a late stage Imperial decadance phase right now so it may seem worse. I dn’t think I need to list the various horrors that the elites have visited upon those not in their class. I personally think its absurd to think that voting, not voting, or voting for a 3rd.party means fuck all. That is a brand of naivety that will keep us in the shit we’re in now. As I said upost, corrupt systems don’t change through some illusion of psuedo power called voting or anything else designed by that system. Anything within that system is a priori corrupt, anything not will soon be or be purged, see Cynthia McKiney. Personally I think Chomsky is brilliant but fast becoming contradictory to his own purported aims, and Zinn also brilliant and insightful but inspired as much fighting spirit as a wet paper bag.

      • VR
        July 4, 2010, 1:01 am

        “At the risk of repeating myself, James Morris is one among those American patriots who see their mission as calling the US back to its ideals.”

        I am not going to argue the points of what is clearly evident in all of your citation of the “founding documents,” if you read them with the sleet of ideology out of your eyes clearly you would not make such bold statements about them. Yes the “fathers” pledged their sacred honor and fortune – for themselves, and there was nothing that accrued to the majority of the wars participants. That is why there were multiple rebellions, the taking over of states, and food wars – news papers speaking of beggars in the streets. You know, the things you do not read in your textbooks which hawk the the rubbish about a pristine country, a heaven from the ravages of feudalism. I can say unequivocally that Shay’s Rebellion and his sentiments were correct.

        So if Mr. Morris is going to deliver to us back to its “ideals” it is a poor goal indeed, because there were little to none extent before or after the Revolutionary War exercised by the “fathers” for the people in the main – that gave them any benefits. If you want these ideals that you have in your “head” than you should consider a clean slate which is participator government, not the wolves in sheep’s clothing “representative” nonsense that has repeatedly served elite interest to the ruin of the people – as it has since the beginning, and is the plight of the people today.

      • demize
        July 4, 2010, 2:20 am

        OT. I’m watching a tough working class Brit talk about his experience on The Mavi Marmara. He paraphrased El Haj Malik Shabazz and said “we didn’t land on Israel, Israel landed on us!” Its on chan.34 MNN. No wonder they don’t want you to hear people like this, powerful and is an obvious ass kicker. I wish I knew who he is, I take it its from the recent Church function in NY.

      • Jeffrey Blankfort
        July 4, 2010, 11:31 am

        PsyGod,

        You didn’t notice that Zinn didn’t risk his “life, his fortune, and his sacred honor,” because you probably weren’t around when he did it, as a bombardier in the US Air Force in WW2.

      • Psychopathic god
        July 4, 2010, 12:54 pm

        I haven’t read Zinn. Maybe he does an exhaustive analysis of the wealth of John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, Alexander Hamilton pre-authorship of founding documents of US and post-authorship and creation of the framework of US style of government. My understanding is that with the possible exception of Hamilton, these men did not acquire wealth as an outcome of their efforts at establishing the US on the basis of some framework for representative government.

        I also don’t know if Zinn discusses all the many indentured servants and poor Scots Irish who were among the first of the non-elites to settle on the lands of America’s indigenous peoples, who through their hard work and sweat carved out a future for themselves, and perhaps vaulted themselves or their progeny to the status of some future elites. Not everybody can be the leader, not everybody can be the author of the framing documents; the question is, did the framework that Jefferson, Madison, et al, composed take into consideration the wants and needs of the anonymous Scots Irish, etc?

        What about Thomas Paine? He figures large in the very fact that the US got off the ground; he was certainly not among the ‘elite’ in any sense other than that he risked his life and reputation — a risk that he LOST, by the way — on motivating people like the rabble Scots Irish and other non-elite early settlers.

        Zinn highlights an interesting perspective; he serves to keep the system honest. But lets not deify him just yet; he really did not stake ANYTHING, did not RISK anything, on writing his history and thinking his thoughts. He didn’t do the heavy lifting of finding and/or forcing a consensus on how the US should be formed, he merely looked at a set of results and said, Yea, ok, but it coulda been done better. That’s easy talk.

        Voting in the US does NOT define the US system of government. Moreover, voting in the US has become commodified, monetized; it’s a meaningless exercise, more like a test-poll or expanded focus group results for a marketing campaign than a robust, Socratic, citizen’s debate on the merits of one or another political perspective. US elections are no more “democratic” than an election in Iran, where an elected body vets candidates who may run for popular election. In the US, that function is managed by wealthy elites and corporations.

        Does

      • Psychopathic god
        July 4, 2010, 2:14 pm

        point for Zinn, but not Set and Match, Jeffrey.

        I maintain that: a. zionism is in the process of destroying the US.
        b. It is doing so by elevating, indeed subsuming any idealism advanced by America’s founders, with elitist and wealth-promoting doctrines. Zionism represents what Zinn deplored (based on my understanding of Zinn from two three-hour conferences featuring Zinn).
        c. When the US struggles to rebuild itself after its destruction at the hands of zionists and elitists, I hope that the renascent US is established on principles envisioned by the idealism of Jefferson, Madison, Adams.

        Jeffrey, my Father risked his life in World War II, was injured, and spent the rest of his life constrained by the experience. That makes him a hero in my eyes, but it does not confer on him the gravitas of the men who put prodigious intellectual and personal effort to the task of establishing the US on the ideals of the Enlightenment and humanism.

        My understanding is that Zinn came away from WW2 with a sense of disgust for the cowardliness of war — especially of killing from 3,000 feet +-. I respect that he had the quality of mind to be oppose war, and the strength of character to do what he could to register that disgust in a meaningful way. But, again, it does not elevate him to the calibre of men who established a nation. The US was uniquely fortunate in the intellectual stew from which its founders emerged; contrast the quality of their minds and ideals with those of the authors of the doctrines that established Israel: Herzl and Jabotinsky were opportunists with a crabbed vision of the world; the skewed vision of their myopia resulted in the hypermilitarized, still-infantilized Israel that presents itself to the world today.

        Consider this comment found on Nick Kristoff’s blog this morning:

        “Ease” the restriction is Insanity approach.

        Any other sane group of people in Israel’s situation would have done anything and everything to make sure that Palestinians, each and every Palestinian, was so well treated that they would never have had to smuggle the contraband through the tunnels. Palestinians would have been secured, their lives would have been like any other Jew living in Israel. All this, for the sake of Israel’s own long term survival. Because, then it would be impossible for the bad elements in Palestinian society recruit anyone to even whisper a word against Israel.> Israel would have spent time, money, diplomacy in this direction rather than building Nukes, being laughingly ambiguous about it and trumpeting their moral higher ground about despicable Palestinian situation (even if we assume that it is only in the media and actual Palestinian lives a very plush lifestyle).

        The fact that world is crying apartheid (rightly or wrongly) is the indication that Israel has failed.

        The fact that there is a huge wall between Palestinians and Israeli is the proof that everything has gone wrong.

        The fact that Israel has failed to assimilate its own NON-JEWISH population (aka Muslims & Christians) is the blaring reality that at least racial discrimination (if not outright apartheid) exists in Israel which in turn generates generations of very angry masses.

        The fact that Israel evicts NON-JEWISH people from their homes in Jerusalem (rightly or wrongly) leaves a trail of some very ticked off people, which no matter how to look at is not good for Israel.


        Gosh… Here is a golden opportunity which has come in over 4000 years and look how Israel manages to systematically mess it up.

        Israel’s founding documents, ie. Jabotinsky’s Iron Wall doctrine that calls for a hypermilitarized state, are hewed to today by Jabotinsky’s acolytes, chief among them Benjamin Netanyahu.

        The US may not be living up to the ideal vision of its founding documents, but that is an indication that US has gone off the path, not that the map was hideously wrong. In Israel’s case, that state and its people ARE conducting themselves in accord with their foundational doctrines. That’s a terrifying reality.

        What has Mr. Zinn to say of that contrast between allies bound by their common values?

      • VR
        July 4, 2010, 4:13 pm

        “But lets not deify him just yet; he really did not stake ANYTHING, did not RISK anything, on writing his history and thinking his thoughts.”

        No one is deifying Zinn, in fact Zinn when I read his volume was merely a repetition (not in all areas, because there are some things I disagree with him on, not merely his conclusion of a perpetual seesaw fight between the people and elites), of what I already knew. Some of his emphasis accented what I had already studied on my own from original sources, so deification is not the goal. Honestly looking at as much brought me to similar conclusions, without even having cracked the book that Zinn wrote.

        “The US may not be living up to the ideal vision of its founding documents, but that is an indication that US has gone off the path, not that the map was hideously wrong.”

        Than you keep following that “shinning light,” but keep in mind that children are also attracted by shinny objects. I just will have to be satified that the scope of your studies is somewhat limited.

      • Psychopathic god
        July 4, 2010, 5:04 pm

        why do find it necessary to be insulting, vr; “shiney light”??
        How dare you.

        good day.

      • VR
        July 4, 2010, 10:10 pm

        It just seems sort of strange to me pg, that you do not seem to be privy to how elites use people for their own designs. Unfortunately it requires a critical reading of what you keep quoting, but you have this refusal to even consider the scenario that they used the people to their own design (especially in light of their condition after the war, their refusal to recognize the rights of the people, how not one would consider the “Bill Of Rights” to the number).

        The very design of the Constitution (and the Declaration for that matter, which was meant to merely rise the passions) which does nothing but protect their interest, etc. It just seems rather “child like,” and breaking away from the conversation in a bombastic fashion (sort of petty) is the mark of closely held ideology (under the guise of insult) not reasoned analysis. You work nothing out by just saying “this is the way it is (and was), because this is what is in my head?” Whatever

      • Psychopathic god
        July 5, 2010, 8:22 am

        wow.
        You don’t like the US Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. Yes, you’re right; I stand behind those documents pretty solidly; I’m an American, that’s the backbone of the national mythos.

        Who the hell do you think you are to hector me, “Unfortunately it requires critical thinking”? You appear to be the one who is issuing judgments based on the voices in your head: you discern from ten words of mine just how critically I think and that I’m easily distracted by shinney [sic] lights? What an arrogant dweeb you are.

        Discussion with you does not advance my knowledge or insight; go carry on with your fellow ideologues who, presumably, have a far superior form of government that is forming the basis of a well-functioning society. And say hello to your fellow inhabitants of la la land.

      • VR
        July 5, 2010, 9:34 am

        Liking the Declaration or the Constitution is not the point, understanding what occurred in the context of the writing is what is paramount – what was produced as a result. Anyone could like the plain verbiage of the Declaration if indeed that was the goal in the sense of “all men” (except the indigenous, women, slaves, and those without property, etc.), however what was produced since than to the present day? What has the Constitution produced except the isolation of the people from the workings of State and the preservation of the few (from the initial bond holders, to its moneyed self-appointed leaders)? From the inception individuals have been divided by elite design in an execution of class warfare (with the various handles of money, racism, religion, etc.). Anything that has been acquired by the people has been by their threatening this damned system to extinction, so thank those who struggled for any advance, not the government nor the milk of its magnanimous breast – and that democratic landscape which was proffered for a short period of time is receding at an exponential rate.

        No one is hectoring you, nice interpretation – this is the application of critical reasoning meeting with some unusually thick hubris (I assume with none of the consequent power, taking offense for those and that which do not give a damn about you). I can only assume by what you post (“ten words,” a bit more than that over time I am afraid), and only you can do likewise, we will let those who read the exchange judge.

        Discussion with those who may not agree with you (as I am doing with you) is only one tool, but like any other means it is limited by what you bring to the exchange. I know it is a traumatic experience to face truth, simply because there is so little of it in the present environment. It is not easy to face the fact that perhaps what you have been taught and believed all of your life is a well wrought fairy tale, some come out better equipped on the other side and some take offense as a defensive mechanism, and unfortunately by the constitution of some they are utterly crushed. It is up to you to make these fateful choices, I can’t make them for you

        MAKE YOUR CHOICE

      • MHughes976
        July 5, 2010, 9:36 am

        The entertainer at my son’s wedding (we British, she American) remarked that the British are still sore about 1776, and indeed I must admit to a few sore-point reservations about the DofI and the Constitution. However, they were indispensable steps in the creation of modernity and it seems short-sighted not to celebrate them at all. So I hope that this July holiday ushers in twelve months of increasing peace, social progress and creativity. No harm in hoping.

  2. hayate
    July 2, 2010, 12:32 pm

    Nice catch :D

  3. demize
    July 2, 2010, 12:32 pm

    Herr Boot und Feld-Marshall Patreaus aka Saint Patreaus of Basra combining in hushed tones. I don’t want to say I told you so but… General and Flag Officers are just Politicians who wear their reumes on their tunics, some better than others, some worse. I saw some folks being very credulous when he made his Senate Testimony vis a vis Israel Palestine. I was sceptical that he had anything but his own interests at heart.

    • hayate
      July 2, 2010, 12:59 pm

      The u.s. military is notoriously a yes-man org. The team players are what are given the promotions and rise up the ranks. For a short while during the 70’s, after Vietnam and all the internal rebellion within the military, there was movement within the military to get a more merit based system and to phase out the incompetent yes men. That got completely nixed during the reagan regime, and yes-menism was re-instituted with a vengeance. Since then things went steadily downhill till the neocon take over at which point they fell off the cliff and splattered upon the rocks below.

      • potsherd
        July 2, 2010, 1:41 pm

        Colonel David Hackworth used to have some sharp words for those guys he called “perfumed princes” of the military.

      • demize
        July 2, 2010, 1:47 pm

        I used to read his stuff in SOF and S&S. Stan Goff has some good insight into Special Forces mindset, enlisted and officer.

      • VR
        July 2, 2010, 6:25 pm

        “I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class thug for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902–1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents.” Smedley D. Butler, Major General

      • kapok
        July 2, 2010, 8:36 pm

        an oldie but goodie

      • syvanen
        July 2, 2010, 10:15 pm

        My papa used to quote that to me as a young child whenever I said I wanted to be a soldier when I grew up. BTW, he was a real soldier who saw some serious combat.

      • Mooser
        July 3, 2010, 10:46 am

        The Moosers have a proud martial history. My ancestors, for as many generations as we know of, have evaded service in the armies of our country, or any other. And I challenge any chickenhawk here to say different!
        My father once told me that a Mooser has been present at and active in every major military defeat. And usually suspected of espionage.

  4. traintosiberia
    July 2, 2010, 12:35 pm

    It sounds like an interrogation of our general and he failed. Who says this country is not ruled by a selct few with jaundiced view of the justice,honesty,liberty,human respect when it comes to Israel. They have manged to ramrod an Army chief and then claim the homerun.

    On a legal aspect , can it be construed as an inapproriate intereference by Commentary magzine in the military affairs of US ?
    Can Petreus be charged with falsfiying his own conclusion for some benefit or under duress?

  5. demize
    July 2, 2010, 12:38 pm

    Replying to myself, blogsterbation. Mr. Wiess did a post a whike back where he was sucking up to Getrude Himmelfarb or some such genus at one of the Neo-Connerys, no relation to Sean, a fine Scot, that was confirmation enough that Patria fidelis was not his strong point.

  6. lobewyper
    July 2, 2010, 12:45 pm

    Petraeus was obviously strong-armed by the current administration, which is worried about Jewish support for Democratic candidates in the next congressional election. The damage that our “see no evil” approach to the Israelis is doing to our military and our image in the eyes of the rest of the world is self-evident and stands on its own without the need for Petraeus’s endorsement. Nonetheless, I am still disappointed that his emails suggest he is as terrified of the Lobby as the rest of our government officials…

  7. Mooser
    July 2, 2010, 1:06 pm

    Told ya! Told ya!

    Expect worse than nothing from Petreaus. As I’ve said so many times before, Mission No.1 fro today’s US military is very simple: Avoid, (at best make impossible) any kind of accounting for the last ten years. Confusion, chaos and violence are their best tools to this end. Oh, and if it discredits Obama and the Dems. on foreign policy, why, that’s a two-fer.

    • Mooser
      July 2, 2010, 1:13 pm

      And by “an accounting” I want to make clear, I am not referring to torture or war crimes. Not that I think those things are good, of course. When I say “an accounting” I mean anything from “what are we getting for our money, and who is getting it?” and “how has the military done, in comparison to its own purported standards” in any area.
      Any accounting would make clear, that even apart from torture and war crimes, our military is a wasteful failure, on its own terms!
      Avoiding any kind of accounting or oversight is their goal, and confusion (as here) chaos, violence, and “It’s too complicated for anyone to figure out” are their best weapons in that fight. And that’s all Petraeus is doing, creating more confusion.
      And again, the are not immune to the lure of two-fers.

      • Berthe
        July 3, 2010, 8:34 am

        I have been reading Mondoweiss for a few months and just created an account to be able to say something about this. It ought to be the elephant in the room. On September 11, our half-trillion $/year (now 3/4 trillion$/yr) military sat on its hands. One Senator, Mark Dayton, noticed and made a speech about how we were literally defenseless for 109 minutes (and he paid for that, couldn’t run for reelection as was derided as a fruitcake). Gen. Myers, in fact, told the 9/11 commission that the military did nothing because they were afraid of the Posse Comitatus Act! Here are some quotes (bottom of page):

        Commissioner Gorelick and Myers Spar over NORAD June 17 2004

      • Berthe
        July 3, 2010, 8:39 am

        In other words, according to Gen. Myers, the Posse Comitatus Act meant that New York City Police Department should have its own missiles to shoot down airplanes-used-as-weapons out of the sky (or to shoot down missiles if they’re incoming to NYC). Because according to Gen. Myers, the US military can’t do anything about it, is prohibited by law from doing anything about it. And he had almost 3 years to prepare that answer.

      • annie
        July 3, 2010, 9:35 am

        speaking of “an accounting”, this reminds me of the first time my radar picked up on petraeus in a major way. interestingly when i googled the story for a reference i see greg mitchell who writes a blog at The Nation has a recent article up about the alleged ‘suicide’ of“much-admired Army colonel and ethicist named Ted Westhusing”

        what this current article doesn’t fully delve into was the full spectrum climate of criminal activity surrounding westhusing’s initial complaint to petreaus wrt the contractors. there were actually a few ‘suicides’ during this era (including one of petreaus’s staff)all related to a huge wearhouse of ‘stolen’ arms (tens of thousands of them) that was later discovered the army ‘lost’ thru computer mishaps the serial numbers. westhusing was tasked w/training the ‘new iraqi army’ along w/contractors who were distributing arms, some might argue enough arms to kick off a civil war. recall by the summer of 05 (westhusing died in june) the’ civil war’ hadn’t really taken hold yet but the death squads were just beginning tho the breaking news and murder of the reporter who broke that news wasn’t until august. ‘operation forward together’ the bloody summer of 07 was still a year off.

        “It’s too complicated for anyone to figure out”, yes..and those who do are conspiracy theorists.

      • annie
        July 3, 2010, 10:34 am

        here it is, tip of the iceberg nyt. another ‘suicide’, an alleged ‘confession’ the day before..

        Two people with direct knowledge of the investigation or the contracting office in Iraq at the time said “Person B” was Lt. Col. Kevin A. Davis, who worked with an officer who has emerged as a focus of the investigation in the weapons case in Iraq.

        That officer, Lt. Col. Levonda Joey Selph, was at the heart of the effort to strengthen the fledgling Iraqi security forces in 2004 and 2005. She worked closely with Gen. David H. Petraeus, who commanded the effort at the time. The general is now the top commander in Iraq. There is no indication that investigators have uncovered any wrongdoing by General Petraeus.

        sorry for going so OT.

      • annie
        July 3, 2010, 10:49 am

        okay..sorry sorry but this is best article so far explaining the petraeus link nytBooming trade in U.S. weapons on Iraqi black market

        “This was the craziest thing in the world,” said John Tisdale, a retired Air Force master sergeant who managed an adjacent warehouse. “They were taking weapons away by the truckload.”

        Activities at that armory and other warehouses help explain how the U.S. military lost track of some 190,000 pistols and automatic rifles supplied by the United States to Iraq’s security forces in 2004 and 2005, as auditors discovered in the past year.

        ……

        The investigations into missing weapons are among the most serious in the widening federal inquiries into billions of dollars in military contracts for the purchase and delivery of weapons, supplies and other material to Iraqi and U.S. forces.

        Already there is evidence that some U.S.-supplied weapons fell into the hands of guerrillas responsible for attacks against Turkey, an important U.S. ally. Some investigators said that because military suppliers to the war zone were not required to record serial numbers, it is unlikely that the authorities will ever be able to tell where the weapons went.

        Many of those weapons were issued when Gen. David Petraeus, now the top U.S. commander in Iraq, was responsible for training and equipping Iraqi security forces in 2004 and 2005. Petraeus has said he opted to arm the Iraqi forces as quickly as possible, before tracking systems were fully in place. The Pentagon says it has since tightened its record-keeping for the weapons, but government auditors said in interviews that they are not yet convinced that an effective system is in place.

        “The problem goes well beyond bookkeeping,” said Joseph Christoff, director of international affairs and trade for the Government Accountability Office. Another GAO official said, “There were inquiries from soldiers finding enemy weapons caches, finding AK-47s, and they would ask, ‘Did we give these to them?’ ”

        As the U.S. military rushed to train and equip Iraqi security forces in the spring of 2004, the Pentagon also turned to contractors to operate warehouses to store equipment and weapons.

        i urge everyone to read the whole article. recall it was AFTER billions of weapons issued under petreaus were ‘lost’ and distributed widely in iraq that he was THEN promoted to the top U.S. commander in Iraq.

      • Mooser
        July 3, 2010, 10:53 am

        Annie, avoiding a financial accounting, let alone an administrative, legal, or medical accounting is the US military’s most important mission. And I’m sure every commercial interest involved (contracter) is working toward the same goal.
        If any kind of accounting took place, measuring the military against its own standards and regulations, our military would be completely and irrevocably exposed as a criminal fraud.

      • annie
        July 3, 2010, 2:59 pm

        avoiding a financial accounting, let alone an administrative, legal, or medical accounting is the US military’s most important mission.

        don’t forget avoiding objective accounting. mustn’t inform the masses why we actually invaded.

      • demize
        July 4, 2010, 2:10 pm

        Nice digging Annie. You have a future in Intel. Those deathsquads were of course coordinated by John Negroponte who had experience from prior deprivations in Central America and were carried out under Special Operations Group Commanded by Gen. McChrysal

      • annie
        July 11, 2010, 12:48 am

        i just have a long memory demize. i was blogging back then.

      • demize
        July 11, 2010, 12:55 am

        That’s most of what the analysts at our various spook agencys do anyway. They have no special knowledge. But I need to correct myself, its was Fred Kagan not J-Pod who concocted the surge strategy.

  8. Philip Munger
    July 2, 2010, 1:38 pm

    Great article, Phil.

    It is amazing how Palin ends up either insinuating herself into stories involving international relations or somehow gets projected into them. Her understanding of international relations and events is even dimmer than her grasp on geography.

    I’ve been writing about Palin now for well over a decade, and have written several articles about Palin’s views on Israel, the end times, Judaism or “the Jews.” It all started back in 1996, when she was running for mayor of Wasilla against a very close friend of mine, John Stein, and her campaign accused John of being a “secret Jew.” It got her votes here. Lots of them.

    It is unfortunate that both she and Petraeus have bright political futures.

    • demize
      July 2, 2010, 1:43 pm

      I just subscribed to your blog. She is an ahem, interesting phenomenon. Cryto-Jew huh, very 15th. Century Spain, nice.

      • Philip Munger
        July 2, 2010, 2:11 pm

        Welcome to my unique take on Wasilla, demize.

      • goldhoarder
        July 3, 2010, 6:05 pm

        Is she any worse than obombu or betrayus?

    • potsherd
      July 2, 2010, 1:45 pm

      The Lobby seems to care less what people actually think of Jews than how far they grovel in public to Jewish influence.

      The story about the haters in Brooklyn trying to drive out the mosque mentioned that the local clergy were all afraid to stand up for freedom of worship, for fear of retaliation from the residents of the “Jewish neighborhood.”

    • Cliff
      July 2, 2010, 1:50 pm

      Phil Munger, do you have some source for that Palin story? I don’t doubt it, but it seems like it’d come back to haunt her wouldn’t it? I’ve never heard of that.

      • Philip Munger
        July 2, 2010, 3:21 pm

        Which Palin story do you mean?

      • Cliff
        July 2, 2010, 3:27 pm

        and her campaign accused John of being a “secret Jew.”

        This part.^^

      • Philip Munger
        July 2, 2010, 4:57 pm

        Here’s a link to one fairly recent story, by David Talbot from Salon:

        Even though Palin knew that Stein is a Protestant Christian, from a Pennsylvania Dutch background, her campaign began circulating the word that she would be “Wasilla’s first Christian mayor.” Some of Stein’s supporters interpreted this as an attempt to portray Stein as Jewish in the heavily evangelical community. Stein himself, an eminently reasonable and reflective man, thinks “they were redefining Christianity to mean born-agains.”

        The Palin campaign also started another vicious whisper campaign, spreading the word that Stein and his wife — who had chosen to keep her own last name when they were married — were not legally wed. Again, Palin knew the truth, Stein said, but chose to muddy the waters. “We actually had to produce our marriage certificate,” recalled Stein, whose wife died of breast cancer in 2005 without ever reconciling with Palin. [emphasis added]

        In 1996, during her first mayoral campaign, the local Wasilla paper, The Mat-Su Valley Frontiersman, covered this, but I don’t believe the articles are available on-line.

        I suspect author Joe McGinnis, who has moved next-door to Palin, and is writing a book about her early political career, will write about this. It also comes up in Chapter 13 of Eric Boehlert’s 2009 book, Bloggers on the Bus.

    • kapok
      July 2, 2010, 1:57 pm

      Ah, so that’s their line, eh? Jews who denounce Zionism will be called “hidden” or “closeted” perhaps. Not “truly” Jewish. I can see how that would find traction among the bible-thumps.

      • Mooser
        July 2, 2010, 3:02 pm

        ” Jews who denounce Zionism will be called “hidden” or “closeted” perhaps.”

        Oh, you can’t see the logic in that? See Jews who denounce (or even criticise) Israel, are self-haters of course, who hate the Jews and are ashamed of being Jewish. Okay, got that? Good. Now, at the same time, these awful self-hating, Jew-hating Jews are supposed to be mortified if somebody tries to dis-associate them with Judaism, or lambaste their concept of Judaism! And plead ‘Please Sir, let me back in, like me again, let me once again dance the horah on the sands of the settlements in sandals and shorts!’ (Sorry) Seems to me that once you’ve taken the measure of Zionism and the apparatus which supports it, the last thing you would care about is their religious or social condemnation. Unless they had their hands on your job or position, of course….

      • kapok
        July 2, 2010, 8:42 pm

        ? I said can see

      • Mooser
        July 3, 2010, 10:56 am

        ” I said can see”

        Of course you did, and I know you do. But still, do you think that’s going to keep me from using a line like …let me once again dance the horah on the sands of the settlements in sandals and shorts!’? Heck, no!

  9. Mooser
    July 2, 2010, 1:50 pm

    The guys name is John Stein and she’s accusing him of being a crypto-Jew? She makes me reach for the crypto-abyssmal

    • demize
      July 2, 2010, 2:01 pm

      “Upset stomach,diarreah”

    • Philip Munger
      July 2, 2010, 2:19 pm

      He’s a Lutheran, though not ardent.

      • Mooser
        July 2, 2010, 2:49 pm

        Ah, so it’s that most unfortunate “hebraic” surname which tipped Palin off to his Marrano (do I have that right?) leanings?
        Anyway, not to worry. I’m sure Palin draws a clear line between Jews and Zionists, and likes the one and the other, not so much.
        I guess she’s never heard of the every-Jew-a-Zionist theme. Too bad, I bet she would like us so much better.

      • demize
        July 2, 2010, 8:50 pm

        Stein, uh ya. They drink ze bier out of them on Steuben Day!

    • MRW
      July 2, 2010, 6:29 pm

      Mooser, where the fuck do you get these? “crypto-abyssmal” ROTFLMAO.

      • Mooser
        July 3, 2010, 10:59 am

        Oh, it’s just a knack. And we’re too poor to afford breakfast, so I have nothing but coffee and stale puns.

  10. Oscar
    July 2, 2010, 1:51 pm

    I recall that after the bombshell of Petraeus’ position paper — that Israel’s intransigence was putting American lives at risk — there was surprise when he watered down his positions during testimony. There was speculation that Abe Foxman’s smashmouth tactics had succeeded, or that some of the elite got to him, by floating his name as a potential presidential candidate. (PNAC neocon William Kristol was the ringleader — see below.)

    It’s outrageous that Max Boot trashes both MJ Rosenberg and Mark Perry to keep his agenda of sending American men and women to die in a potential proxy war with Iran. But it’s even more infuriating that the neo-cons got to Petraeus with vague promises of propping him up as the Republican nominee against Obama in 2012.

    This CSM story is stomach-churning. A textbook example of the neo-con attempts to corrupt our most powerful officials is on full display at this AEI dinner.

    link to csmonitor.com

    Remember, Petraeus’ position paper was submitted on March 16. On May 7, Bill Kristol is handing him a neo-con award named after his father Irving.

    Our country has been fully compromised by a foreign power.

    • lysias
      July 2, 2010, 1:55 pm

      It took somebody with the military prestige of Charles de Gaulle to get France out of Algeria. War hero Dwight Eisenhower is the sole U.S. president since 1948 who has succeeded in getting Israel to climb down. Lesser war hero JFK tried, but look where that got him.

      We may need a war hero to defang the Lobby. I wonder if Petraeus could do that.

      • Mooser
        July 2, 2010, 2:52 pm

        “We may need a war hero to defang the Lobby. I wonder if Petraeus could do that”

        Well, first of all, he should sorta be, like, an actual war hero, not the commander of a criminal, and oh yeah, failed invasion.
        Don’t count on Petreaus for anything except crap.

      • Mooser
        July 2, 2010, 2:54 pm

        And come to think of it, we just got our first helping of it, huh. What the hell does he actually think, granting of course, that he does?

        He was Bush’s General for Iraq, was he not? If so, case closed.

      • VR
        July 2, 2010, 6:36 pm

        Does anyone think Petraeus was not aware of the criminal war he presided over, and who was yelling the loudest for it? If he took the command of that debacle what makes anyone think he would not go for round two?

    • annie
      July 2, 2010, 4:47 pm

      oscar, from your article

      He spearheaded implementation there of a new counterinsurgency doctrine that gives primacy to winning over and protecting local populations, and to such now-familiar concepts as “hold and build” and “the humanitarian is the decisive terrain.”

      this is so much bullshit. months before the so called ‘surge’ (which was just a fancy word for escalation of troops that lead to more ethnic cleansing but mostly facilitated getting baghdad all walled up) the sunni tribal leaders had already organized to get heavily infiltrated AQ who out of their midst (the fact al baghdadi ‘the Emir of the Islamic State of Iraq’ was supposedly killed over and over every time the US needed a headline and was likely a cia plant is another story). the US touted this as their big achievement but anyone following the iraqi blogs knew this wasn’t petraeus’ doing. they just wanted to take credit for it so they started shoveling money at them and making them promises they couldn’t keep. our memories are so short.

      • annie
        July 2, 2010, 4:49 pm

        “hold and build” meant “hold and build walls”, sound familiar?

      • demize
        July 2, 2010, 5:27 pm

        Annie, the whole Surge “strategy” and branding was developed by John Podheretz and company.

      • demize
        July 2, 2010, 5:29 pm

        Rather than developed the word I meant to use was concocted. It was just a vehicle to extend the war into the next President’s term.

      • annie
        July 2, 2010, 6:29 pm

        It was just a vehicle to extend the war into the next President’s term.

        that too, but as i stated earlier i think the main objective was to wall up the city.

        On Wednesday night, huge cranes slowly lifted heavy concrete blocks into place under a moonless sky. The barriers were implanted on Al Quds Street, a major thoroughfare that separates the Tharwa and Jamilla districts to the south from the heart of Sadr City to the north.

        The avenue was quiet except for the whirring sound of the cranes and thud of the barriers as they touched the ground. Contractors operated the cranes, but American soldiers transported the barriers on trucks and directed their placement.

        we didn’t hear about this much in the press here, but this was effectively what happened all thru out baghdad during the’ surge’. they are ready for the finale may 4th Iraqi authorities start security wall construction around Baghdad

        neocons like walls. mosel’s been walled up to as is samarra and other iraq cities, but baghdad was of course the most challenging. i think all the neighborhoods are walled in now, from what i’ve heard.

        The concrete fence with eight checkpoints is to be completed in mid-2011. It will be possible to enter the Iraqi capital only via one of these checkpoints.

      • demize
        July 2, 2010, 8:54 pm

        Indisputably so. Those were Tactical decisions.

      • annie
        July 3, 2010, 9:11 am

        demize, richard just linked to a fresh pepe escobar article downthread reminding me of these ‘tactical decisions’. maybe these are the

        Petraeus never ended the Sunni-Shi’ite civil war raging in Iraq between 2006 and 2007. He tried to marginalize the Sadrists; he failed miserably. What he did, apart from showering US dollars, was to kill – via McChrystal’s death squads – the leaders of many a Sunni resistance cell, while building a million checkpoints and installing a horrendous cement apartheid in Baghdad (a key factor into driving citywide unemployment to 80%).

        Yet the civil war only diminished because the Shi’ites achieved a brutal, large-scale ethnic cleansing of Baghdad (and that showed to the Sunnis that the next best option was to cash in). Petraeus was peripheral at best during this whole (bloody) process. But he was stellar in selling to the US the notion of “victory”.

      • Mooser
        July 3, 2010, 11:05 am

        Look, it’s basically suicidal for a people (cause the country doesn’t exist after the US invasion) to go up against the US army (and mercenaries). Nobody would do it, unless an act of complete desperation. Light arms in the hands of civilians against air power and advanced communications? Not a good match.
        So in order to get a war, after the invasion the US tortured Iraq until people, in whatever groups, made that awful doomed choice.
        If I remember right, it took almost a year.

      • eljay
        July 3, 2010, 11:52 am

        >> Look, it’s basically suicidal for a people (cause the country doesn’t exist after the US invasion) to go up against the US army (and mercenaries). … So in order to get a war, after the invasion the US tortured Iraq until people, in whatever groups, made that awful doomed choice.

        But why would people rise up against the liberation, democracy, freedom and justice provided by the good ol’ U.S.ofA.? Unless, of course, they are all just living a mythical narrative and working for vengeance.

        Damn, you gotta hate it when terrrrrrists refuse to listen to reason and, instead, engage in reactionary maximalist destabilization. Sure, they justify their anger with claims of “illegal invasion and occupation”, “torture”, “depleted uranium munitions”, murder…sorry, “collateral damage” – but, really who are they kidding?

        They’re nothing but a bunch of AlQaedaHamastinianTalibanIslamofascistMuslimArabs and “They Hate our Freedoms” (TM). Maybe if we kill enough of ‘em, they’ll come to appreciate our message of peace, love and equality.

        Amen.

  11. kapok
    July 2, 2010, 2:05 pm

    Scary/depressing. Most people can’t go around killing willy-nilly. You get put away or worse. Generals, they get paid to do it!

  12. mok
    July 2, 2010, 2:06 pm

    Let’s all send this article to Patraeus saying “Sir, FYI…” That would be awesome…

    PS. Brilliant article Phil.

  13. sky7i
    July 2, 2010, 2:26 pm

    I hope Weiss gets this published in Rolling Stone. Surely Americans should be outraged at seeing their top general so readily emasculated by a third-rate representative of a foreign power?

  14. Chu
    July 2, 2010, 2:38 pm

    Funny how the Russian spy thing is such a big story, but when it was stuart Nozette or jane Harman and Co. it was all very hush-hush in the media.

  15. radii
    July 2, 2010, 3:07 pm

    disgusting … America’s obsequious and slavish kowtowing to israel is shameful and this is just the most recent glaring example … Patraeus should resign for being so careless with his emails and for his near-treason against stated U.S. policy

    We “catch” 11 Russian spies, long-term deep-cover agents attempting to insinuate themselves into U.S. policy-making circles – HA! Just within the Washington beltway we could find 11,000 israeli-firster U.S. citizen zionists doing exactly the same thing

    • Chu
      July 2, 2010, 4:03 pm

      guess move-on was right. he is General Betray-us!

    • VR
      July 2, 2010, 6:41 pm

      “…America’s obsequious and slavish kowtowing to israel…”

      I really hate to be repetitive about this, but why do you think this kowtowing goes on? It is beginning to get really frustrating to me that we seem to float on by the system that makes all of this possible. In fact it is quite amazing

  16. Mooser
    July 2, 2010, 3:11 pm

    “Thx, Max. (Does it help if folks know that I hosted Elie Wiesel and his
    wife at our quarters last Sun night?! “

    C’mon, Max, don’t tell me I put up with that insufferable ponce (and his wife) for nothing!
    One of the most pathetic and hilarious (if you can use that word within 500 ft. of Elie Wiesel) bit of obsequience to Zionism ever. Unbelievable, Petreaus pouring drinks into Wiesel, telling war stories and counting the cred this’ll buy him with AIPAC! ‘You know Elie, I’ve always gotten al;ong with your people very well, I had a smart accountant named Richard Witty once, BTW is that a Jewish name?’

    • Mooser
      July 2, 2010, 3:15 pm

      Oh, to have been a camel-fly on that wall! Elie Wiesel is describing the horrible scenes in the camps to Petreaus, the mass death, the incredible privation and sadistic cruelty. Petreaus nods compassionately ‘Damn’, he says, ‘it sounds worse than Fallujah for the Iraquis!’

      Okay, I better stop. No, I shouldn’t have started.

  17. Colin Murray
    July 2, 2010, 3:26 pm

    I expected better from Gen. Petraeus. I got suckered. What a groveling little weasel. I wonder if he even has a clue how servile and undignified he looks?

    • annie
      July 2, 2010, 4:28 pm

      he has a face like a mouse.

      • demize
        July 2, 2010, 8:58 pm

        Yeah, what’s with these Generals? They all look iron deficiant or something, I mean I get the bad haircuts but Zinni was the last one who looked like a fighting man. Maybe Odierno, but he’s dumb as a stump.

      • demize
        July 2, 2010, 9:03 pm

        Just an aside, The last NSA director, Air-Force General, can’t remember his name, very twirp like. The man reminded me of Heinrich Himmler like you can’t believe. Looked like a chicken farmer sort of Frank Perdueish. As you were…

    • VR
      July 2, 2010, 6:50 pm

      “Uh oh, I got suckered again”… I got suckered again… I got suckered again… I got suckered again… I got suckered again… I got suckered again… I got suckered again – this seems a bit repetitive to me. Not just you Colin, it is quite unnerving generally, the constant refrain of trying to pull diamonds out of the ass of a swine. It is this nonsense, repeatedly displayed – “oh boy! here we go, we got em now” stuff that gets really tiring, and this is because you are not dealing with merely with some abnormality – it is a damn systemic issue! I mean, what the hell is it going to take for people to wake up?

      • hayate
        July 2, 2010, 9:44 pm

        “….it is a damn systemic issue! I mean, what the hell is it going to take for people to wake up?.

        I’ve been wondering that.

      • Mooser
        July 3, 2010, 11:17 am

        “…got suckered again”

        No, maybe we just look for a glimmer of hope wherever we can find it. Maybe we just hope our hope will help.
        I was confused by that, too, VR until I realised that. Without some kind of hope, this is all very daunting, and you get your hope where you can, even if it lasts only a few weeks, and the thing that destroys your hope is appended to the very statement which gave us the hope in the first place!

      • VR
        July 3, 2010, 11:30 am

        Yes Mooser, I guess that the phrase “hope springs eternal” has some truth to it. Actually, this “hope” many times is “I hope someone else does something – I hope the system heals itself,” it won’t happen. Hope meets reality when we get off our ass, when the people get up and shut this system down without remedy.

      • Keith
        July 3, 2010, 12:55 pm

        VR- Unfortunately, changing the system is very difficult. This is particularly true as a consequence of the elites ability to manufacture consent. This is made possible, in part, by the all-too-human capacity for self-deception. For any significant change to occur, it is necessary for a critical mass of the population to perceive reality at least somewhat accurately. I doubt that such awareness currently exists in the US. By my reckoning, we should have had a revolution at the ballot box a long time ago. Not that that would have solved the problem, but that it would have sent a message to the elites and forced a change in their methods of social control, and set the stage for additional action. At the present time, the best hope for change appears to be in South America, where grass-roots activism seems to be having an impact, removed from the corrosive effects of empire. Or do you have something in mind?

      • demize
        July 3, 2010, 2:31 pm

        I live without hope, that way if anything good should happen I’l be pleasantly surprised. I call it the perpetual dienchantment method, and I can teach it to you for a nominal fee…

      • demize
        July 3, 2010, 2:35 pm

        A corrupt system cannot be rectified from within itself. Anyone who who thinks they can will necessarily become corrupt or be purged or leave said system.

      • VR
        July 3, 2010, 5:16 pm

        “VR- Unfortunately, changing the system is very difficult. This is particularly true as a consequence of the elites ability to manufacture consent. This is made possible, in part, by the all-too-human capacity for self-deception. For any significant change to occur, it is necessary for a critical mass of the population to perceive reality at least somewhat accurately. I doubt that such awareness currently exists in the US. By my reckoning, we should have had a revolution at the ballot box a long time ago.”

        The current course and destruction in the US, of the people, is running at a record pace Keith – so they (current elite entourage) do this job of helping “to perceive reality” for me. The latest pronouncements from the puppet farm in Washington says all of the “spending out of the recession” is now over, and that they intend to apply austerity on the people, as if there is not currently enough suffering. They spent all of the peoples money on their beloved elite, and when the second “dip” occurs because of the weakened condition the terrain for what I propose becomes more sound. I would say things are moving in the right direction just be the wanton activity of the current system.

        As far as the “vote,” which you mention – to vote is to surrender. To vote is to say you buy into this charade. To respond to inquiry about correct things happening south of the border I agree, but do not forget that even though this country is teetering they are using US money to build more bases there – this is the extent of their delusion (watch for more debacles). There are some things which I would employ from this region, but in the main, it will require more to run a stake through the heart of this imperial vampire.

      • Keith
        July 3, 2010, 7:55 pm

        VR- “To vote is to surrender.”

        Sorry, partner, but you have that backwards. To not vote is to surrender. To vote either the Democrat or Republican is to be complicit. However, to vote for a third party candidate, or write in candidate, is to register a protest at the ballot box. This is important. In this way you send a message to the elites and to your fellow citizens. You are telling both the elites and your fellows that you are not buying the bullshit and are motivated to take at least minimal action. If 20% of the electorate voted this way it would indicate a potential for change which could be cultivated, and which may inspire others to put forth the effort to organize that potential. When people simply don’t vote, they are sending the message that they are too passive to make even a minimal protest at the ballot box. Not the message you want to send. Time is of the essence. The mid-term elections may be the last time to cast your protest ballot before the shit hits the fan.

      • VR
        July 3, 2010, 8:19 pm

        “In this way you send a message to the elites and to your fellow citizens.”

        I am afraid I have a different way of sending “messages” to the elites, they better watch out. The shit is going to hit the fan alright, and I have a truck load full of it, here is my message –

        WAKE UP

      • Psychopathic god
        July 6, 2010, 6:42 am

        that they intend to apply austerity on the people, as if there is not currently enough suffering.

        what suffering we talking about, VR? Can’t afford to supersize that Happy Meal? Stuck with last year’s 64″ flat screen tee vee? suffering is when you watch the blood gush out of your child’s head. Suffering is a heavily armed goon squad, either Jewish or American, battering your door in the wee hours of the morning, terrorizing your babies, despoiling your sacred shrine, your home, marching you off, blindfolded, to an unknown place for an unknown time for an unknown reason, where unspeakable things are done to your body and your soul.

        When THAT suffering comes to the oh-so-set-upon people of the USofA, THEN people will realize that the prescription imposed on IraqAfghanistanPalestineIran — kill all the bad guys and then there will be peace — is the only thing that will “reform” this systemic horror.

        What American faces should appear on the deck of cards of targets?

      • VR
        July 6, 2010, 8:41 am

        Amazing PG, simply amazing – sit in your air conditioned home until and watch your big screen TV till the lights go out. You know nothing of coercion and violence which has been done, it is not necessary for there to be a bloodbath for this to occur presently, but your delusions will not move you till only coarse degradation is apparent? You make about as much sense as the “goldhoarder” post above.

      • VR
        July 6, 2010, 8:59 am

        I might add, and have proven the the class warfare has been very successful on many.

  18. annie
    July 2, 2010, 4:23 pm

    note perry’s last update on the march 13th article

    A senior military officer told Foreign Policy by email that one minor detail in my report, “The Petraeus Briefing” was incorrect: a request from General Petraeus for the Palestinian occupied territories (but, as I made clear, not Israel itself), be brought within CENTCOM’s region of operation was sent to JCS Chairman Mullen – and not directly to the White House. My information was based on conversations with CENTCOM officials, who believed they were giving me correct information. It is significant that the correction was made, not because it is an important detail, but because it is was inconsequential to the overall narrative. In effect, the U.S. military has clearly said there was nothing in this report that could be denied

    this was brought to my attention months ago (not sure when perry updated but it wasn’t within a day of the original article) by someone (can’t remember where i read it) who explained that centcom doesn’t send reports or requests directly to the WH, they all go thru JCS mullen being the chairman.

    The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff is, by law, the highest ranking military officer of the United States armed forces

    The Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) is a group of military leaders in the United States armed forces who advise the civilian government of the United States. The JCS is defined by statute and consists of a Chairman and Vice Chairman appointed by the President, and the Chiefs of service from the four branches of the armed services.

    iow, the request was made thru the appropriate channels so while it can be denied he made a request to the WH, so far no one has denied he made such a request….which is huge imho.

    wrt ‘State Department Policy Advisor’ who max boot was talking to, everyone knows the top neocon @state is none other than the “special” adviser for the persian gulf to clinton: dennis ross, who specializes is leaking bullshit for the neocon rightwingers.

    wrt this allegation the report is a “posture statement”, it is not merely a posture at all. i don’t for one minute think petraeus writes those things himself, for all i know they are crafted by the JCS. but none the less they are THE official statement. i recall petreaus getting his dressing down by moveon w/the betrayus ad in the nyt when his dutifully came before congress and said exactly what cheneyco wanted him to say after the surge (‘it was working’) right before congress was supposed to vote on even more money for iraq. (and anyone paying attention recalls all they did was co opt the sunnis and pay them for what they were already doing. the ‘surge’ worked because they had ethnically cleansed baghdad..walls etc) i don’t think when these generals speak before congress they are actually speaking their mind, i think they are parroting what their boss tells them to say. iow the ‘STATEMENT OF GENERAL DAVID H. PETRAEUS, U.S. ARMY COMMANDER U.S. CENTRAL COMMAND’ is not a posture. it is the official US position hashed out between a group of military leaders in the United States armed forces who advise the civilian government and the civilian government (obama/biden/clinton). it’s no coincidence members of the executive branch/state department and the military ALL came out w/the exact same message that week first verbalized by biden, then clinton on the phone and then petraeus. that’s the message, israel is dangerous to our ‘mission’.

    please be patient w/me because i am going somewhere w/this..and imho this is where it gets interesting because of the the prominence of i/p in this report.

    on page 6 of the report begins after the introduction, it lists ‘Overview of the CENTCOM AOR’ (area of responsibility)
    A. Nature of the AOR
    B ‘U.S. Interests and the Most Significant Threats’ (pg8)
    C. Cross-cutting Challenges to Security and Stability (pg 12)

    section C lists the challenges one might assume not in a random order but i posit in order of challenge. this is how the segment begins.

    C. Cross-cutting Challenges to Security and Stability

    While this statement will describe in greater detail the dynamics and challenges in the sub-regions of the AOR, there are a number of cross-cutting issues that serve as major drivers of instability, inter-state tensions, and conflict. These factors can serve as root causes of instability or as obstacles to security.

    then it starts listing them starting w/ “• Insufficient progress toward a comprehensive Middle East peace. ” and that is where the segment MJ rosenberg cites enters, at the top of the list. what follows in section C?

    Militant Islamist movements
    Proliferation of WMD
    Ungoverned, poorly governed, and alternatively governed spaces
    Significant sources of terrorist financing and facilitation
    Piracy
    Ethnic, tribal, and sectarian rivalries
    etc etc etc..

    petreaus can backpeddle all he wants but the truth of the matter is he asked for occupied territories under his command and the report someone is pushing off as ‘posturing’ lists “Insufficient progress toward a comprehensive Middle East peace” as the very first ‘challenge to our stability’ and the ONLY thing listed wrt reasoning for this ‘Insufficient progress’ is what rosenberg quoted….which places israel/palestine at the top of the heap.

    walk that back??? i don’t fucking think so.

  19. Little_Shih_Tzu
    July 2, 2010, 4:23 pm

    Sad indeed, i had hopes for Petraeus based on Mark Perry’s writing re the General’s commonsense linkage of America’s shit position in the Arab world having something to do with America’s total embrace of the words and deeds of Israel.

    This might just be a random straw in the wind, but it does come accross as guy trying to buy time, and presumably mercy, from a blackmailer or extortionist.

  20. MHughes976
    July 2, 2010, 4:48 pm

    It does seem easy to read this a very unbecoming cringe by a senior military commander to a mere journalist. On the other hand it might be read as an amused response to the accusations of anti-Semitism which of course became inevitable once the remarks of his official Statement became known. Annie’s contribution seems very valuable at this point. The statement is there and it’s obviously true.
    Petraeus seems, from his moment of fainting, to be a person who lives on his nerves.

  21. lobewyper
    July 2, 2010, 5:15 pm

    29 lysias July 2, 2010 at 1:55 pm

    “We may need a war hero to defang the Lobby. I wonder if Petraeus could do that.”

    Maybe, but not if he wants to be the next US president. Consider: political advisors have told him, “The good news is, as of today, you have at least 1 chance in 3 of succeeding Obama in the next election. The bad news is, if you even introduce doubt into how you would approach Israel and the Lobby from here on out, you have at best a 3% chance of being the next president.” Is not rationality one of Petraeus’s strengths? Who then can fault him for backing away from his initial congressional testimony and trying to calm Boot down (who could well be a loose cannon for him)? Sure, Eisenhower was special and he famously and heroically called out the military-industrial complex, but he did it at the end of his presidency–not at its beginning. My suggestion following more thought: it may be too early to pass judgment on Petraeus…

    • Mooser
      July 2, 2010, 6:24 pm

      “My suggestion following more thought: it may be too early to pass judgment on Petraeus”

      Yeah, I guess Iraq doesn’t count, and he gets a do-over?

      • Mooser
        July 2, 2010, 6:25 pm

        Actually, it might be a hell of a lot more accurate to say it’s too late to pass judgement on Petreaus. He is now where things like judgement and accountability mean nothing.

    • VR
      July 2, 2010, 6:54 pm

      “Sure, Eisenhower was special and he famously and heroically called out the military-industrial complex, but he did it at the end of his presidency–not at its beginning.”

      In short, he did it after he got good use out of it for his own design.

  22. Bandolero
    July 2, 2010, 6:21 pm

    Great work. This story reveals the true nature of Petraeus war against Afghanistan more than everything else. The pieces of the mosaic of the crime of the century continue fitting together better and better.

    In 1996, Netanyahus policy including regime change in Iraq was outlined by the think tank “IASPS” in a paper “A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm” which James Morris prominently advertizes on his web page.

    In 2000, IASPS advocated a US led war against Afghanistan in a paper called “The Afghan Vortex”:

    link to iasps.org

    9/11 2001 the pretext for the long planned wars was suddenly and surprisingly there. These wars planned by the Israel lobby started 2001 and 2003.

    And now turns out, the commanding officer of the war against Afghanistan and Iraq is a buddy of Israels high priest of the holocaust Elie Wiesel and very close to Israels propaganda machine.

    I think it would be fair to demand, that all military bases and vehicles used by NATO in their wars against Iraq and Afghanistan would carry the Israeli flag, so that people out there have no misunderstandings whom they are dealing with when encountering the NATO “peace troops”.

  23. Richard Parker
    July 2, 2010, 6:25 pm

    This a great story. With (or without) Phil’s permission, I am linking it to my own story about Petraeus’ chestful of phony medals
    link to levantnotes.blogspot.com
    I don’t know enough about this man, but he certainly does seem like a schmuck.

    • Mooser
      July 2, 2010, 6:33 pm

      It’s too early/late to pass judgement.
      And I though I had a bad memory. Did Iraq actually happen the way I remember? Oh well, being in command of a criminal invasion is the kind of thing which could happen to anybody. He couldn’t quit, he wife was about to have a baby and they desperately needed the money.
      Iraq, remember? George Bush? No WMD?
      I guess it was all a bad dream! Hurrah for Petraeus. Even without military experience, he’s still the man for the job.

    • demize
      July 3, 2010, 2:40 pm

      I am curious as to how excactly he earned his Combat Service Badge. This is usually a biggie in upper echelon career advancement. I wonder if these guys like McChrystal actually HALO qualified, I mean that is one tough nut to crack. We’re not talking Colonel Kurtz here.

  24. MRW
    July 2, 2010, 6:31 pm

    What a scoop, Phil and James. You guys send it to Mark Perry?

  25. traintosiberia
    July 2, 2010, 9:01 pm

    In a saner US, Max Boot would best be described as a sleeper -cell meber waking up for the demand of its mother country Israel. He is using the contacts both at Governemnt and Media to spread a false denial to shelter the illegality of Israel at a huge cost to US security.
    His action recapitulates the incident when under bitten by the ADL attack dogs , Pentagon was forced to recant and offer an apology .Pentagon cited Israel for stealing trade/military secrets particularly using US Jewsih citizen or by using strategically placed Israeli citizen in key industries.(American Conservative -June 2,2008 by Philip Giraldi). The media outcry finished Pentagon’s foray into the business of the national security.

  26. Richard Parker
    July 2, 2010, 9:03 pm

    To save time (and serious brain exercise) I have just stolen and posted:
    Fruit Salad General Petraeus Goes On To Next Quagmire
    Originally published as: ‘Surge” smoke follows Petraeus to Afpak
    by Pepe Escobar Asia Times July 3 2010

    link to levantnotes.blogspot.com

  27. Chris S
    July 2, 2010, 11:51 pm

    Jeff Huber at Pen and Sword blog has been saying that Petraeus is going to be running for Pres for years now.

    • Richard Parker
      July 3, 2010, 4:41 am

      Jeff Huber at Pen and Sword has been doing a very good job. He made satirical mincemeat of ‘Stan the Man’ and will, I hope, do the same for Petraeus. But at least Petraeus is better than Palin. No?

  28. Chris S
    July 3, 2010, 10:28 am

    I remember when I first read The Petraeus Briefing. I was like, cool, good for Petraeus, but isn’t he a rabid neocon and hero to neocons? Perhaps I should take with a little salt. After all, I read Petraeus was going to get the 2010 Irving Kristol Award from neocon central, the AEI. It didn’t make any sense. WTF was going on here I asked myself? And then I read this.

    President Petraeus?
    by Kelley B. Vlahos, May 18, 2010

    Spotting Gen. David Petraeus in a photo chatting up a little old lady shouldn’t make one recoil with odd feelings of discomfort.

    Except that the little old lady is none other than the indomitable 87-year-old Gertrude Himmelfarb, mother of Bill Kristol (who is at Petraeus’ elbow) and wife of the late Irving Kristol, godfather of neoconservatism. The photo was taken on May 6, the night Petraeus spoke at the Washington neoconservative confab – the annual American Enterprise Institute gala – as a recipient of the 2010 Irving Kristol Award.

    The general’s in Washington, and we’re not sure he wants to leave.

    If “The Washington Scene” photo gallery of attendees doesn’t give you a case of acid reflux, his speech will. Especially the part where he gives AEI luminaries Kimberly and Frederick Kagan – or “Team Kagan” – primary credit for the Iraq Surge (which is kind of sad for retired Gen. Jack Keane, a former fellow Army officer often referred to as Petraeus’ mentor, who was much more involved in the original AEI “surge” blueprint than Fred’s wife Kimberly was).

    The photo. Petraeus is one ambitious neocon.

    • Mooser
      July 4, 2010, 11:29 am

      Petreaus has met and talked with both Gertrude Himmelfarb and Elie Wiesel? He’s a braver man than me. I would run screaming from either.
      Or suffer immediate syncope, if that’s the word I want, and I spelled it right.

      • LeaNder
        July 4, 2010, 11:52 am

        Interesting idea to see you swoon in their presence. ;)

        But I have a gift for you:

        Baruch Kurzweil one of the intellectual opponents of David Ben Gurion’s Messianic Idea as a basis of the Israeli state. I sense variations of the theme in RW’s contributions.

        When are mythical elements necessary and fruitful in the development of religion and the arts, and in what situations do they become a dangerous drug, liable to lead to catastrophe? One thing is clear: intellectual play with myth without religious faith, and, no less important, the mobilization of myth for political ends, are especially negative phenomena because they remove the restraints of rational criticism and throw the gates of the irrational wide open.

        David Ohana, Political Theologies in the Holy Land Israeli Messianism and its Critics

      • Mooser
        July 6, 2010, 10:02 am

        “Interesting idea to see you swoon in their presence.”

        Isn’t there a famous painting of a lady being raped by a swoon?

  29. sky7i
    July 3, 2010, 2:05 pm

    When will the press pick up on our boot-licking general? That’s a four-star headline right there.

  30. annie
    July 3, 2010, 3:10 pm

    congrats on breaking this phil and big hat tip to james morris. this deserves wide distribution.

  31. AM
    July 3, 2010, 4:12 pm

    I’m slightly confused (didn’t read all the comments) by the exact point of the article. I’m not sure what exactly to draw out of this:

    (a) Petreaus is scared of the Lobby and enlists Fervent Zionists to help him (although why would they help him??)

    (b) Petraeus has political ambitions and is making sure to cover all his bases. This means anything we think he believes will change once he becomes a politician (why would he even go against the Zionist position at all and challange their closest beliefs?)

    (c) Petraeus is actually on the side of the lobby and all of this is complex psy-ops.

    (d) is there something else I’m missing, and I’m stupid?

    • Richard Parker
      July 3, 2010, 4:44 pm

      No, I don’t think you’re stupid – just as as confused as I am.

      Quote from post: Thx, Max. (Does it help if folks know that I hosted Elie Wiesel and his wife at our quarters last Sun night?! And that I will be the speaker at the 65th anniversary of the liberation of the concentration camps in mid-Apr at the Capitol Dome…)
      might just be a joking response to a charge of ‘anti-Semitism’.

      But this: From: Petraeus, David H GEN MIL USA USCENTCOM CCCC/CCCC
      To: Max Boot
      Subject: FW: On the Middle East: It’s Palin vs Petraeus

      As you know, I didn’t say that. It’s in a written submission for the
      record…

      is a devious deception. The document was already on the table, signed off by Petraeus himself.

      I think the dumb general was conned by Max Boot and other neocons into retracting his honest opinions. He’s also being led down the garden path into going into the GOP nomination contest against Palin by people who seriously think that Palin is so obviously much dumber than even he is, that American voters might realise that, and he’s got a chance.

      He’s no Eisenhower.

      • hayate
        July 3, 2010, 8:54 pm

        The way things are going, the next u.s. prez will have to be an israeli citizen, just having an israeli chief of staff wont cut it with massa anymore. Petshopboi will have to fast track itself an israeli citizenship if it’s wants the job – assuming it don’t have an israeli citizenship already.

      • hayate
        July 3, 2010, 9:06 pm

        AM

        “I’m slightly confused”

        The zionists got wind the petshopboi wrote something critical of them in a report and petshopboi was made to feel his job was on the line due to that. So petshopboi scrambled to kiss israeli arse to make amends.

        A bit too late probably, though, as once you show you are not a 100% loyal bend-over boi to zionism, inc., they write you off. You don’t get a 2nd chance and excuses and arse kissing just make you look cowardly. To the zionist mind, either you are 100% with them or you are dismissed. There is no in between, no 99% reliable.

      • annie
        July 4, 2010, 12:34 am

        He’s no Eisenhower.

        you got that right!

        might just be a joking response to a charge of ‘anti-Semitism’.

        but there wasn’t a charge of anti semitism which max pointed out. pets response was a diversion. my theory is the report was the truth, the truth everyone knows. everyone being centcom, JCS, obama and israel for that matter. they just are not supposed to say it and they did.

        don’t take your eyes off the ball, what did they say? in a nutshell they said the biggest strategic challenge was people’s perception of the US in the ME and our alliance w/israel was damaging to the way we were perceived (ie prohibiting progress wrt ‘hearts and minds’). iow the target audience (mass population) is more important than extremist, WMD’s, sec conflict, all the other challenges. section B was ‘most significant threats’ but israel landed in ‘ strategic challenges’.

        pets job is to down play and minimize, ie damage control.

        wrt AM Petraeus is actually on the side of the lobby and all of this is complex psy-ops.

        pet doesn’t have a ‘side’ (or if he does we’ll never know) which is why he is where he is today, he serves and covers up, he placates, diverts and performs well wrt damage control. he says ‘i never sent anything to the WH’ (which he didn’t) knowing damn well he sent it the JCS who advises the WH. yes, this is all complex psy-ops.

        As you know, I didn’t say that. It’s in a written submission for the
        record…

        is a devious deception. The document was already on the table, signed off by Petraeus himself.

        exactly, tho i don’t know how devious it is. its wordsmithing, not lying yet not transparent…his specialty and why he is in the position he’s in.

        this is call damage control, shutting down the outrage ASAP, probably on instruction from higher ups but for the record..he hasn’t walked it back. did he ever say ” i/p is not a strategic challenge for the US”? or “we have greater strategic challenges than the way we are perceived (hearts and minds) and something else is a greater challenge to overcome than the perceptions of our alliance w/israel? no. this isn’t pet (he’s the mouth piece), this is obama’s perception immediately doubling down w/damage control wrt the lobby. believe the report. when history is written about this period the official statements will survive and they are there for a reason.

        what’s silly isn’t max getting these statements out of the pet. the report is the product of centcom, JCS, obama and likely clinton. pet isn’t the boss, he performs. let them all have dinner w/mr holocaust himself, the general isn’t dumb, he wasn’t conned by max boot. max boot was conned. max boot is a peon. this is a juggling act and perception is at play, we are oh so supposed to be confused. keep your eye on the ball.

        best comment

        The way things are going, the next u.s. prez will have to be an israeli citizen, just having an israeli chief of staff wont cut it with massa anymore. Petshopboi will have to fast track itself an israeli citizenship if it’s wants the job – assuming it don’t have an israeli citizenship already.

        say it isn’t so!! i’m betting on team america, but you could be right.

      • Mooser
        July 4, 2010, 11:33 am

        “might just be a joking response to a charge of ‘anti-Semitism’.”

        No the I-had-Wiesel-and-his-wife-over wasn’t the joke, it was just the set-up. But it’s sure easy to supply your own punchline!

      • Mooser
        July 4, 2010, 11:49 am

        “As you know, I didn’t say that. It’s in a written submission for the
        record…”

        Is complete bullshit. As far as I know, (and you big-deal types can correct me if I’m wrong) a signed, deliberate statement always supercedes something that just happens to drop out of your mouth. If it wasn’t what he thought was correct, why did he sign it?
        HSDHTWA?

    • Berthe
      July 3, 2010, 5:39 pm

      Or: Petraeus being afraid of being accused of anti-semitism? Seems like a big deal that a US general, top general, has to worry about being accused of anti-semitism over what he says about Israel.

  32. DICKERSON3870
    July 3, 2010, 6:42 pm

    Phil? Where are you, Phil?
    I’m bored. Really bored! Desperate, actually.
    And you know what they say about “idle minds”.
    And there’s nothing on TV but patriotic garbage.
    Please post something soon, Phil.
    Otherwise, I’m not responsible.

    SOME NICE “NEGRO MUSIC” (VIDEO, 03:39) – link to youtube.com

  33. DICKERSON3870
    July 3, 2010, 11:04 pm

    “Everybody knows” that no Fourth of July celebration is complete without beaucoup World Famous Vidalia Onions!
    Vidalia Onion Research – Georgia Farm Monitor (VIDEO, 03:55) –
    link to youtube.com
    P.S. And you thought Haley Barbour “talked funny”!

  34. Richard Parker
    July 4, 2010, 5:20 am

    Thanks Annie & Hayate. I like your designations: Pet and petshopboi. In fact, I might use them myself.
    The fellow is going to get himself into an unholy mess in AfPak soon enough to ditch his chances of being US president, although probably the narrative can be kept going for quite a while longer. (What’s another year or two on 9 years’ fuck-up?).

    It’s taken a bit of time for the truth about the famous operation against Marjah to come out (it wasn’t a town of 50,000 people, but a collection of small hamlets in the midst of agricultural land, and the ‘Taliban’ is back in charge again now).

    If Pet now goes against Kandahar, as he trumpeted earlier this year (and we’re not yet halfway through it), he’ll meet his nemesis. It won’t matter what he said about Israel.

    • Mooser
      July 4, 2010, 11:39 am

      “The fellow is going to get himself into an unholy mess in AfPak soon enough to ditch his chances of being US president,”

      Maybe, maybe, but I’ll wager big that he’ll have plenty of time to make sure most of the mess hits Obama, and spoils his chances. “Look what Obama made me do!” he’ll say, pointing to the dead American soldiers”
      Drones? “Obama wouldn’t let me stop!” Torture? Detainees? “Obama made me!”

      If there is one thing you can count on as a prerequisite for high military position, it is an almost supernormal ability to evade responsibility or shift responsibility.
      But of course, Obama is Cn’C isn’t he?
      What a chump! Give the man a red jacket and a lamp, and put him on the front lawn. What a chump.

      • Mooser
        July 4, 2010, 11:43 am

        BTW, as of Friday, the only outfit in the country still defending the Bush Doctrine, and with the Bush Doctrines own words of You’re-either-for-us-or-for-the-terrorists, is the Democrats!!!

        If the link doesn’t work, try:
        link to salon.com

      • Mooser
        July 4, 2010, 11:46 am

        I mean, for God’s sake, if you bought a building, and discovered the tennant is running a brothel, complete with “white slavery” what should you do? Evict the tennant, or decide you must become a pimp, in addition to being a landlord? I mean, it’s a step up, but still…

      • VR
        July 5, 2010, 11:21 am

        I would say rather than a cycle of stupidity you have the same agenda, because if you do not know that you are looking at the same of more with both democrats and republican at this juncture, I do not know what to say to you (“you,” generally speaking). I am just amazed at the shock, I don’t know what else to say.

      • potsherd
        July 5, 2010, 12:46 pm

        Good grief. When there aren’t any Zionists around, must people here turn on each other?

      • VR
        July 5, 2010, 2:57 pm

        I am just really weary of all of this nonsense potsherd, people just clinging to this garbage which is nothing but a big ruse. To be really frank I think it is cheap and cruel, while people both foreign and domestic by the millions are crushed and perish for others personal peace and comfort in delusions. They are not even aware of how they have become the fat around the midsection of this tragedy, to be frank I don’t know what else to say – this paralysis posed by clinging to the system is insufferable

        THE SYSTEM

      • Mooser
        July 6, 2010, 10:10 am

        VR, have you had enough opiates, marijhauna, coffee and bagels today? Not necessarily in that order, of course.

    • hayate
      July 4, 2010, 12:48 pm

      Richard Parker

      “Our hero” talked the the media again:

      Petraeus takes over Afghan fight, vows to win it

      By DEB RIECHMANN, Associated Press Writer Deb Riechmann, Associated Press Writer – 2 hrs 3 mins ago

      link to news.yahoo.com

      The article is goebbelsian ziofascist rubbish, but but it does show what a plug petshopboi is. “Ra ra ra, we gonna win!” Just like in Vietnam, they’ll be forced out and will leave the country in total ruins with medical and environmental problems lasting generations. Same in Iraq.

      The usa needs a French Revolution, and a lot Madame LaFarges….

      • hayate
        July 4, 2010, 12:50 pm

        And guillotines, did I mention them? Lots of guillotines.

  35. Mooser
    July 4, 2010, 1:04 pm

    I’m so stupid! I just went and looked up Witty’s blog. It’s called (ready for this?):

    Loving Home in Practice (verb and adjective)

    yes, including the parenthetical parsing attempt! Of course, it’s mostly a self-advertisement for his financial services. The rest is self self-service.

    • hayate
      July 4, 2010, 2:17 pm

      Mooser July 4, 2010 at 1:04 pm

      “I’m so stupid! I just went and looked up Witty’s blog. It’s called (ready for this?):

      Loving Home in Practice (verb and adjective)

      yes, including the parenthetical parsing attempt! Of course, it’s mostly a self-advertisement for his financial services. The rest is self self-service.”

      Fascinating as that all is, mooser, what does it have to do with the subject of “Petraeus emails show general scheming with journalist to get out pro-Israel storyline”?

      • Richard Witty
        July 4, 2010, 2:52 pm

        Is that all you got from reading the blog?

      • Mooser
        July 6, 2010, 10:16 am

        “Is that all you got from reading the blog?”

        Richard Witty, I will stand for a lot from you, but I will not endure deliberate, calculated and cruel insult! I most certainly did not, and would never unless motivated by the most barbaric forms of duress, “read” your blog. I looked at it quickly, and moved on after deciding to print it out and put it in my medicine cabinet. In case I run out of ipecac. Sometimes you just gotta get rid of all those opiates, marijhauna, coffee and bagels!

        Read your blog! I’d rather swallow prussic acid.

      • Mooser
        July 6, 2010, 11:19 am

        “Is that all you got from reading the blog?”

        Him: “This photograph doesn’t do me justice!”
        Her: “It’s mercy you want, not justice!”

        Richard, of course, wants a complete pardon, and the record sealed.

      • syvanen
        July 5, 2010, 1:01 am

        Fascinating as that all is, mooser, what does it have to do with the subject of ……

        I disagree, it is always relevant, well, for example, well er ah, well, uhm, let Witty explain it, he somehow puts himself into the middle of any issue.

      • Mooser
        July 6, 2010, 10:12 am

        “Fascinating as that all is, mooser, what does it have to do with the subject of “Petraeus emails show general scheming with journalist to get out pro-Israel storyline”?”

        Nothing, it was just another premature ejaculation. Damn that drunken mohel! If I had a sex life, he would have ruined it!

  36. unverified__9ge497k0
    July 4, 2010, 3:55 pm

    The ability and the success created by the zionists of demonizing anyone who dares to criticize Israel has brought this nation to its knees. This passionate attachment to Israel has caused this nation the loss of American blood and American money. I can imagine what progress our country could’ve made if it were not for this devotion to Israel. No one dares speak of big brother unless in praise or on bended knees. General Petraeus shouldn’t have to try and explain his criticism of Israel to anyone and he shouldn’t have to try and defend himself. Truth has become socially illegal in America and that is not healthy for any so-called “democracy.” Even top Congressional leaders and American presidents must kow tow to Israel to survive politically in America’s false democracy. I hope General Petraeus is not on the same path. Let’s hope so anyway. Keep up the good work Jim Morris. We need more people like you who aren’t afraid to tell the truth.

  37. MHughes976
    July 4, 2010, 4:34 pm

    Well, I think that Mooser is telling us that if we want to find the solution to our problems he’s found a place where, in his opinion, we would be disappointed.
    The BBC spin a few minutes ago has been, via adjacent reports, that Petraeus is a great rescuer of lost causes, Netanyahu a bit of a blunderer. Well, I suppose that in a different guise it’s the same story as Phil’s. The acute Petraeus has to find a way round the obstacle presented by the obtuse Netanyahu.
    General scheming, involving generals and journalists, seems to be afoot to avoid a debacle, military and political. Surely the prospects of a presidential candidate in 2012 who was summoning the US to another decade of war in Afghanistan would be very bleak.

    • potsherd
      July 4, 2010, 5:05 pm

      War will probably be very unpopular by 2012, since Israel is determined to start another one, which will raise the price of gas and have other, uncomfortable consequences for the US electorate.

      It’s clear that the Israeli warmongers never think how their actions are likely to unleash a veritable tidalwave of antisemitism when people look around for someone to blame for all their woes and find – the Jewish state.

      • hayate
        July 4, 2010, 7:20 pm

        The zionists have all their moles taking care of things. What could go wrong, eh?

        (That, and their insufferable arrogance – a result of their deluded sense of invulnerability.)

  38. hayate
    July 4, 2010, 11:33 pm

    Rozoff provides a detailed analysis of the israeloamerican expansion of their Afghan war crimes:

    Afghan War: Petraeus Expands U.S. Military Presence Throughout Eurasia

    Rick Rozoff

    Stop NATO
    July 4, 2010

    link to rickrozoff.wordpress.com

  39. DICKERSON3870
    July 4, 2010, 11:33 pm

    Phil? Adam? Yo Weiss! Are y’all takin’ the whole cotton pickin’ weekend off? Where’s your gol’ darn PWE*?
    * Protestant Work Ethic

    • Mooser
      July 6, 2010, 10:18 am

      “* Protestant Work Ethic”

      There’s nothing that’ll ruin a good Jewish boys PWE like marrying a Gentile! And if I had one, it would be ruined, too.

  40. hayate
    July 5, 2010, 1:12 pm

    The news is getting around. :D

    The General, the Journalist, and the Power of Israel

    “As You Know, I Didn’t Say That”

    by Gary Leupp / July 5th, 2010

    Philip Weiss, who runs a blog called Mondoweiss (War of Ideas in the Middle East) has just posted a remarkable piece entitled “Petraeus Emails Show General Scheming with Journalist to Get out pro-Israel storyline.”

    If true, it is a tale of honesty and dishonesty, opportunism, and cowardice. It indicates that Gen. David Petraeus, who just replaced Gen. McChrystal as commander of foreign forces in Afghanistan, has frankly assessed that the intimate U.S. relationship with Israel is costing U.S. lives in the Middle East. But he’s concerned that his views may cost him politically and so uses buddies in the media to conceal them.

    Since the story’s a bit complicated I thought I’d arrange the material in a straightforward chronology……

    link to dissidentvoice.org

  41. hayate
    July 5, 2010, 1:18 pm

    Against counterinsurgency in Afghanistan

    By Hugh Gusterson | 1 July 2010

    It says something about American politics that Gen. Stanley McChrystal was not fired because U.S. casualties in Afghanistan are running at record levels, because the much vaunted Marja initiative has failed, or because the Kandahar offensive is already in trouble during its preliminary rollout. No, he was fired because he and his team embarrassed the White House with carelessly frank talk to a journalist. “This is a change in personnel, but not a change in policy,” said President Barack Obama in announcing General McChrystal’s dismissal. Or, in the words of Rep. James McGovern, we have the “same menu, different waiter.”

    (snip)

    The Obama administration will be defined by three disasters. The first, the economic meltdown, it inherited. The second, the BP oil spill, it did nothing to avert. The third, the failed war in Afghanistan, it made worse. All three disasters were caused by a carefree lack of precaution. In the financial world, the U.S. dismantled regulatory structures and trusted the banks to police themselves. Something similar happened with regard to offshore drilling, with the U.S. government outsourcing its responsibilities to oil companies and placing blind faith in technology to keep the environment safe. In Afghanistan, civilian leaders have failed to exercise their responsibility to restrain the military and have fallen prey to lone superpower hubris. Do we have to make the same mistakes in still more countries, wrecking them as we go, to learn our lesson?

    link to thebulletin.org

    • demize
      July 5, 2010, 2:38 pm

      If you want to see what a ridiculous farse The “COIN” doctrine is read my friend Max Fortes blog Zero-Anthropology. He’s been tracking it since its inception.

      • demize
        July 5, 2010, 2:41 pm

        I should have specified “Human Terrain Sytems” run out of Joint Special Operations command. HTS. is a big component of COIN.

  42. AreaMan
    July 5, 2010, 2:24 pm

    “The emoticon means, I’m running for President.”

    Well, Mondoweiss has hit a new low. You guys have been going downhill so long I’d thought you’d hit bottom. It appears you’ve been digging. Keep up the bad work.

    Kuwait had a lot more to do with the US invasion of Iraq than Israel. Once Saddam was a permanent enemy, all sorts of trouble was going to be inevitable. 9/11 also had a greater influence.

    • Mooser
      July 6, 2010, 10:21 am

      “Once Saddam was a permanent enemy, “

      Thank God we discovered, recovered and destroyed the WMDs!

    • Psychopathic god
      July 6, 2010, 10:45 am

      AreaMan: Kuwait had a lot more to do with the US invasion of Iraq than Israel. Once Saddam was a permanent enemy, all sorts of trouble was going to be inevitable. 9/11 also had a greater influence.

      not entirely true, AreaMan; DENNIS ROSS had his hand in the Persian Gulf war: the Arabs were working among themselves to solve their problems. James Baker & Dennis Ross had just presided over the demise of the Soviet Union; they flew from Moscow to (I forget where in the Arab states — Riyadh?) after first feeding false information to Egypt to disincentiivize Egypt from cooperating in an upcoming, scheduled conference amongst the involved parties in the conflict. Baker and Ross insisted that “Saudi Arabia needs US protection”, an opportunity to sell arms and stir shit that the US was not willing to surrender to no stinkin’ inter-Arab peace initiatives. Ross and Baker disrupted the efforts of the Arabs to bring about a peace that would have solved things in a way that might have displaced US as a central power.
      Israeli influence on US policy was not the sole influence on US war on Iraq #1, but it was a major influence on that initiative — see the article where Wilkerson traces the confluence of lines of perfidy that brought about the destruction of Iraq.

    • MarkF
      July 6, 2010, 3:26 pm

      Uh, no. Bibi, Barak and others wrote op-eds in major US newspapers calling for war with Iraq in 2002 and early 2003. Arik called for it as well. Neocons such as Kristol, Perle and Feith signed letters calling for regime change in Iraq AND stating that Israel is a staunch ally. AIPAC used it’s influence ,albeit more low-key, to push for the invasion. Many Israeli political figures amped up the volume to take out Saddam.

      Neocons just used 9/11 to push teir agenda of regime change. Perle & friends wrote that mid-east peace runs through Baghdad, not Jerusalem, remember? It’s in writing signed by them.

      It’s all there my friend.

      • MRW
        July 6, 2010, 3:58 pm

        It started before Gulf War I. Ephraim Halevy, head of the Mossad, declared Saddam was the next new enemy. Back of one of Ostrovsky’s books. The last page.

        How else would the Israeli defense industry survive after the fall of the USSR?

    • lysias
      July 6, 2010, 3:29 pm

      I remember a cover story in Mort Zuckerman’s U.S. News & World Report a few months before the First Gulf War and entitled “The Most Dangerous Man in the World” about Saddam. It was obviously motivated by Saddam’s threats to Israel.

    • MRW
      July 6, 2010, 4:00 pm

      Kuwait had a lot more to do with the US invasion of Iraq than Israel.

      BS. That was Lantos cooking that up with a PR firm on the Hill.

  43. demize
    July 5, 2010, 2:34 pm

    Uhm 911, kay. Must have been the powerful Kuwaiti lobby that has such a strong grip on the levers of Government.

  44. kapok
    July 5, 2010, 2:47 pm

    New high, actually. A year ago Mondo was just an obscure blog on the outskirts of the web. Now it’s being picked up on antiwar.com, reddit, dissidentvoice, counterpunch; probably others I’ve forgotten or haven’t heard of yet.

    Digging, yes. Hasbara’s grave.

  45. gingershot
    July 5, 2010, 6:06 pm

    my god Petaeus is a snake – Admiral Fallon was right – watching this little chickenshit try to worm his sleazy way out of any potentially/possible politically-damaging anti-semitic pushback just sickens me.

    This little CYA-chickenshit deserves NONE of that vomited fruitsalad plastered all over his uniform – did he get half of those by brownnosing some NOTHING neocon-reporter like Boot too? – pathetic. He learned it somewhere else because he’s good at it- he’s practiced this kind of treason before

    Do none of our admirals and generals have any balls? – oh yeah – it seems the ones that do have started resigning ever since the Neocons like Jackboot took control during the Bush-years-coup

    And then the neocons pick from the ones left like Petraeus or McChyrstal or Odierno

  46. syvanen
    July 5, 2010, 11:08 pm

    Ethan Bonner:

    link to nytimes.com

    has a story today on tax exempt status of organizations backing wb settlements. He reports one fact that Mondo broke in a story last year (without attribution, of course). It is about the textile guy who runs a tax exempt operation out of his business.

  47. Richard Parker
    July 6, 2010, 3:47 am

    Gary Leupp’s version link to thebulletin.org is very good. It makes the full story very clear indeed; so much so that I have posted it in its entirety at:
    Fruit Salad General Backpedals – “As You Know, I Didn’t Say That”
    link to levantnotes.blogspot.com
    All the teflon in the world isn’t going to help this guy much longer.

    Areaman I am familiar with your species of bile, but not your total ignorance. WTF did Kuwait have to do with the Iraq War?

  48. Amar
    July 6, 2010, 10:02 am

    This is funny. I thought Mondoweiss was not being updated. For the last 4 days visiting here I would see this post at the top and not bother to scroll down. What is this, a sticky? :)

    • Mooser
      July 6, 2010, 10:23 am

      It’s not unusual for a blog to keep a post which the blogowners (Phil/Adam) feel is especiall timely or important at the top of the page, with new stories appearing below it for a time.

    • annie
      July 6, 2010, 8:15 pm

      For the last 4 days visiting here I would see this post at the top and not bother to scroll down

      there was nothing new posted from the 2nd to the 5th. possibly somebody was on holiday! 2 posts were added on the 5th and a whole slew of new posts today. always scroll the entire homepage.

  49. lysias
    July 6, 2010, 11:03 am

    Max Boot was born in Russia? Is he any relation of the arms merchant Viktor Bout?

  50. Khawja
    July 6, 2010, 12:24 pm

    Gen. Petreaus’s military career is a tale of honesty and dishonesty, opportunism, and cowardice. It indicates that Gen. David Petraeus, who just replaced Gen. McChrystal as commander of foreign forces in Afghanistan, has frankly assessed that the intimate U.S. relationship with Israel is costing U.S. lives in the Middle East. But he’s concerned that his views may cost him politically and so uses buddies in the media to conceal them.

    link to rehmat2.wordpress.com

  51. Shii
    July 7, 2010, 9:28 pm

    Why are the media reporting that Petraeus might run for President? He’s nowhere near retirement! Not everyone is as irresponsible as Sarah Palin. In fact, American military generals are some of the least irresponsible people in the world, McChrystal notwithstanding.

  52. NOMOREWARFORISRAEL
    July 9, 2010, 4:15 pm

    Neocons, Likud Conquer DC, Again

    link to consortiumnews.com

    Gary Leupp: Petraeus, Palin, Boot and the Power of Israel

    link to counterpunch.org

    Obama Yields to Bibi, Plus Me vs. Petraeus

    link to huffingtonpost.com

    link to tinyurl.com

    Duel of the Machiavellians: Obama vs. Petraeus

    link to america-hijacked.com

    link to tinyurl.com

    Additional via http://AMERICA-HIJACKED.COM

  53. NOMOREWARFORISRAEL
    July 10, 2010, 4:30 pm

    Phil Weiss was on Antiwar Radio today talking about Max Boot/Petraeus scheming:

    link to antiwar.com

  54. NOMOREWARFORISRAEL
    July 13, 2010, 7:16 am

    Philip Weiss of Mondoweiss On ANTIWAR RADIO

    link to mycatbirdseat.com

    And this one:

    New Statesman – General Petraeus leaked emails about Israel

    link to newstatesman.com

    • annie
      July 13, 2010, 8:38 am

      eh nmwi, petraeus boss called him “an ass-kissing little chickenshit” iwas reminded reading your last link (newstatesman) comment section..here’s more Centcom chief Admiral Fallon: Petraeus “an ass-kissing little chickenshit”

      National security analyst Gareth Porter writes:

      In sharp contrast to the lionisation of Gen. David Petraeus by members of the U.S. Congress during his testimony this week, Petraeus’s superior, Admiral William Fallon, chief of the Central Command (CENTCOM), derided Petraeus as a sycophant during their first meeting in Baghdad last March, according to Pentagon sources familiar with reports of the meeting.

      Fallon told Petraeus that he considered him to be “an ass-kissing little chickenshit” and added, “I hate people like that”, the sources say. That remark reportedly came after Petraeus began the meeting by making remarks that Fallon interpreted as trying to ingratiate himself with a superior.

      more from wapo @ link

      Fallon, chief of the U.S. Central Command, which oversees Middle East operations, sent a rear admiral to Baghdad this summer to gather information. Soon afterward, officials said, Fallon began developing plans to redefine the U.S. mission and radically draw down troops.

      One of those plans, according to a Centcom officer, involved slashing U.S. combat forces in Iraq by three-quarters by 2010

      from fallon’s wiki page:

      On March 11, 2008, he announced his resignation from CENTCOM and retirement from active duty, citing administrative complications caused in part by an article in Esquire Magazine, which described him as the only thing standing between the Bush Administration and war with Iran.

      thanks for posting phil’s interviews!

  55. NOMOREWARFORISRAEL
    July 15, 2010, 6:59 am

    Very welcome Annie.. You might be interested in the following as well:

    President Petraeus: The Neocons’ Choice

    link to america-hijacked.com

    link to tinyurl.com

    One can read George Washington’s passionate attachment (like we have for Israel) warning via the link for his ‘Farewell Address’ at the bottom of http://astandforjustice.org

    Additional via http://AMERICA-HIJACKED.COM

  56. NOMOREWARFORISRAEL
    July 29, 2010, 12:54 am
  57. NOMOREWARFORISRAEL
    July 29, 2010, 5:12 pm

    Philip Giraldi — Who Owns General Petraeus?

    link to mycatbirdseat.com

  58. NOMOREWARFORISRAEL
    August 2, 2010, 5:43 pm

    A Neocon Re-write of American history link to consortiumnews.com

  59. NOMOREWARFORISRAEL
    August 4, 2010, 1:49 am

    David Petraeus for president? He keeps speculation alive.

    link to csmonitor.com

  60. NOMOREWARFORISRAEL
    August 4, 2010, 9:18 am

    ME, GENERAL PETRAEUS & THE ISRAEL LOBBY

    link to mycatbirdseat.com

  61. NOMOREWARFORISRAEL
    August 11, 2010, 2:46 am

    Don’t allow Israel (and it supporters in the USA & UK) to get US/UK into yet another war in the Middle East!:

    Intelligence professionals warn Israeli attack on Iran would drag US into war (scroll down to the comments section at bottom of following URL if interested further):

    link to america-hijacked.com

    link to tinyurl.com

    Additional via http://AMERICA-HIJACKED.COM

  62. NOMOREWARFORISRAEL
    August 12, 2010, 9:46 pm

    Gen David Petraeus Media Blitz Planned

    link to huffingtonpost.com

  63. NOMOREWARFORISRAEL
    August 20, 2010, 10:01 pm

    Opps! Petraeus emails to Max Boot

    link to originaldissent.com

  64. NOMOREWARFORISRAEL
    September 1, 2010, 12:07 pm

    Neocons resurfacing in Obama administration

    link to america-hijacked.com

    link to tinyurl.com

  65. AmericaFirstforaChange
    September 15, 2011, 1:22 pm

    General Petraeus Leaked Emails about Israel (scroll down to comments section as well!):

    link to newstatesman.com

    link to tinyurl.com

  66. AmericaFirstforaChange
    October 7, 2011, 7:01 pm

    The embarrassing spectacle of one of America’s most eminent military commanders seeing fit to grovel in such a demeaning way before a young pro-Israeli hack would surely have ended General Petraeus’s career in Washington before it began if the American public had been made aware of the incident. The Israel-centric U.S. media, however, chose to studiously ignore the revealing Petraeus-Boot correspondence. As a consequence of the media’s silence, the servile Petraeus is currently director of the CIA, overseeing the murderous drone strikes which are predictably enraging the Pakistani people; while his self-assured confidant is goading American policy-makers from his safe perch at the neocons’ primary warmongering media outlets to escalate such provocative policies against the world’s sole Islamic nuclear power–a country which, not insignificantly, has been designated as Israel’s greatest strategic threat by Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman.

    link to maidhcocathail.wordpress.com

    ———————————————————-

    911 Motive & Media Betrayal: link to tinyurl.com

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