This is at the Council for the National Interest blog under the heading, "Full-page ad in New York Times in April demonstrates who is pushing for war against Iran." I wish I could say it's a canard. But I can't. Couldn't they have gotten some non-Jewish groups aboard? Oh and yes the organizers say they're actuated by fears of climate change, but why the Netanyahu quote and the emphasis on missiles?
Posted August 5, 2010
The comment by Gwynne Dyer on the plans for war with Iran are, from the point of view of those of us hoping that there will be no war, quite encouraging. I cling to my hopes.
“Couldn’t they have gotten some non-Jewish groups aboard?”
Of course, they could. Next time such an ad will be probably also signed also by “Arabs for Israel”, “Former Muslims United” and “Christians United for Israel”. :-)
Notice that this ad tries to personalize the issue into one’s opinion of Ahmadinejad just as the Iraq issue was personized into Saddam Hussein. This is a standard propaganda ploy.
>> Notice that this ad tries to personalize the issue into one’s opinion of Ahmadinejad …
Three good reasons for that:
1. He is the Hitler of Nazi Iran.
2. He threatened to “wipe Israel from the map” (or the “Zionist regime from the pages of time”, but why quibble?).
3. And, ummm…what was that third one? It was a good one. Oh, that’s right: “Remember the Holocaust!”
I wonder who he thinks really wrote the Shakespeare plays? Who cares what he thinks about the Holocaust? How is that relevant to anything that would cause the US to attack Iran and kill people? Only a monster would think the Iranian president’s opinion about the events of WWII justifies harming one hair on the head of one Iranian.
I like to see pictures of Ahmadinejad traveling around the world meeting other leaders like the top guys in Brazil and Turkey: It shows that there are some leaders who are not US toadies and are unafraid to show they don’t think the Holocaust and anyone’s opinion about it is the defining issue forever and ever.
they could have photo-shopped his moustache to look more like Hitler. That is my only suggestion to these noble Jewish groups seeking peace throughout the planet. :o
Actually, The New Republic did this to a photo of Saddam Hussein on the cover of their magazine in 1990.
charming
New Republic takes mimics graffiti in jr hi bathrooms.
That’s nonsense. Saddam was a dead ringer for Stalin, not Hitler.
Hitler? Please!
How many countries has Iran invaded?
He has NOT threatened to any such thing, only that he believes Israel, as a Zionest state will end, a rather widely held view in the region.
How long will the Holocaust haunt? Really. Paranoia strikes deep. Into your heart it will creep…..
Where is the full-page ad saying these things?
>> How many countries has Iran invaded?
Just think: How many countries has Iran NOT invaded? Each and every one of those un-invaded countries is a victim of Iranian aggression and terrorist madness just waiting to happen!
I agree with the Arab world in that new poll: It would be good for the region for Iran to have a nuclear weapon. Its deterrence. It works. The US used nuclear weapons when the US was the only one to have them and not since. Israel, with its arrogance, special privilege, dishonesty and selfishness, is exactly the kind of country that would use nuclear weapons and they’ve got plenty of them. They need to be afraid of retaliation. Iran hasn’t started a war in hundreds of years; Israel starts one every once in a while to keep in practice.
Interesting poll, that.
We keep getting told that Arabs are scared of the prospect of nuclear-armed Iran, that they are fearful of Iranian domination of the region, and that there is an age-old hostility between Arabs and Persians.
Now some idiot has to go and actually ask them what they think.
It’s refreshing to know even with the old neocons out of the former cabinet of Bush, there are still 16 Jewish groups instilling fear with their message and promoting propaganda. A minority religion (2%) pushing for war, disguised as a green initiative for clean energy. lol.
here’s the petition with the names of organizations:
link to jrf.org
-The message to senators: to stop buying crude from Iran?
are they serious or am I missing something.
My initial reaction is that if the US attacks Iran, we deserve the consequences but, NOOOO! Me and mine do not deserve the consequences! We’ve been against every one of these stupid, hate-filled, ugly, arrogant wars for Israel and this insane Jewish triumphalism over the entire Muslim world. Thats what its all about. As the former Pakistani top spy Hamid Gul said the other day, there is no evidence that Osama bin Laden did 9/11:
Afghanistan war is a lost cause
Theres no evidence because he didn’t do it. It was a plot by Cheney & Co. assisted by Israel’s government and Israel’s Mossad (for the special protection you get when you let Israel in on the plot, that the Congress and the US media WILL NOT investigate if they suspect Israeli evil; see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil). The plan was to steal (from Afghanistan, Iraq and the US treasury) and to let Israel grab more from those territories and attack, attack, attack.
PNAC provides a lot of insight into the aims at a global strategy (disguised as policing the world post cold war), and the book ‘the transparent cabal’ shows how these groups work throughout washington, and in turn work for the benefit of israel. WINEP, AEI, AIPAC, all work to create continual pressure toward the congress, while devising think-tank strategies to manipulate the public and engineer mid east policy.
Dr. Stephen Sniegoski, author, “The Transparent Cabal.”
link to thornwalker.com
meh, more “rugged individualism”. Everyone should be free to follow his own star, wher’er it may lead. But those days are gone.
dang, this tree! above meant for Psych.
what’s even more disgusting is the way the ad includes mention of MIT at the bottom, insinuating that MIT is on board with the racist Jewish groups purveying this hateful ad.
speaking of abuse of advertising (is that an oxymoron?)
A few weeks ago Ahava cosmetic products were mentioned as worthy of inclusion on a BDS list, and it became known that Ahava is available at Ulta shops in the US.
Since that time, Ulta advertising pops up all over the web — at least that is so on places I visit. Could it be that Ulta has gotten the message and is fighting back? That’s a good sign.
I suppose if someone reprinted this ad with all the Js circled on the list of endorsing organizations, this would just be evidence of antisemitism.
Unlike the build-up to the Iraq War — where Jewish groups maintained official deniability, despite the fingerprints of the Jewish-neocon Feith/Perle/Wolfowitz cabal all over the war lies — they are 100% on the record about fomenting war with Iran.
All three major branches of Judaism — Orthodox, Conservative and Reform — have signed on to the gratuitous warmongering advocated in the NYT page: no antisemitic canard, just verifiable fact.
If war with Iran breaks out, the bloodthirsty Jewish lobby will deserve full, public blame for their self-serving political chicanery.
And they will respond as usual to this blaming with charges of antisemitism.
and they might be right, but nobody will care.
How much of a role does that three-letter word oil play in the designs
against Iran?
Aren’t we still waiting on the ‘returns’ from Iraq? Iraq’s has enough oil to last this country for decades, so wouldn’t it be wise to focus on finishing the job there?
But the oil deals with Iraq have already gone to China, Turkey, Malaysia, etc.
I hope that it enters into every thought and that it is constantly remembered that a rise in the oil price, the expected result of war, would do massive damage to the western economies and to the popularity of their governments.
Isn’t it just a nice warning & advice: When (not if) Iran is attacked, the oilprice will fourfold, so better not be dependent on oil. You know, like, at last these organizations are doing something in return. Helping America, saying be prepared.
This, when it happens, will bring down the Lobby at last.
Israel is on the planning board for the attack on Iran. Obama brought them onboard. At least Iran is starting to act smart making deals with Russia and China. Although they agreed to the UN sanctions, they will not agree to the extra stict sanctions by the US and EU. Hopefully, that and the American people’s tiredness of war, will keep it from happening. I know Obama wants to please BiBi, but as the death toll rises in Afghanistan, Obama is losing support for the war. But again, there are alot of our Congress persons sitting in plush offices, ready for their marching orders from BiBi.
well, Obahu did assemble some reporters in his office and wave a figleaf in the general direction of Iran, with invisible writing on it saying, “HELP! Being held captive in Afghanistan! Send toilet paper!”
I see Castro hobbled out from retirement to predict Israel & US would attack Iran, creating utter chaos and the death of millions, including lots of Americans. He added that only Obama can stop it, and he thought that Obama would if he actually sat down and thought about it but has not really done so, although Catro believes his immediate staff has.
1“Based on an economic analysis by the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, MIT Program on the Science and Policy of Global Change, April 2007”
Dose MIT know that it’s hallowed ground is being squatted by the Israeli carpetbaggers?
The perversity of the intelligence underpinning this kind of ethnocentric selfishness and oppurtunism has no equal.
MIT should dissociate from this petition and condemn these as warmongers telling them that their activity would pollute the world way much more than any oil spill and thier association with MIT would damge the reputation of the institute beyond redemtion .
How about, instead of spinning stupid conspiracy theories, you actually read the goddamn ad? It says “End America’s Reliance on Foreign Oil.” Please point out where it says, “Let’s Bomb Iran”, or anything remotely like it. In fact, it would seem that the whole point of the ad is to suggest an alternative to military action.
It seems that even a message as innocuous and nonviolent as a call to end our dependence on foreign oil is a message to bomb Iran to you. That says more about you than it does about the organizations who sponsored the ad.