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Oh yeah. Growing, moving. The justice train left the station decades ago but is building up substantial amounts of steam
Can you just imagine if Rep Weiner ever turned his passion towards justice for the Palestinians and against the injustices taking place due to the criminal acts of Israel. The stealing of Palestinian lands, the bulldozing of their homes. Can you imagine if he applied his passion to this issue. Instead of always voting with the Israeli lobby. Can you imagine?
Listen to this mans passion. Just so selective
link to youtube.com
I could so get behind this man for a higher office if he could start really looking at his votes that are always pro Israel and for more warmongering towards Iran. He is brilliant, down to earth and so passionate.
But so so wrong on I/P legislation.
Whereas some Democratic representatives can be accused of representing their financial (campaign fund raising) interests rather than the beliefs of their constituents, Weiner’s district is very pro Israel.
Then Weiner should educate them about Israel’s sins. This is called leadership.
Weiner’s oath is to serve American citizens, not Israelis.
Point well taken, Kathleen. I saw him facing off against a Republican hard-liner defending continued tax breaks for the very wealthy income people on Fox the other day. He did the same against Huckabee on his own show. The religious Huckster tried to keep talking over him because he had righteous details and delivered them with immense conviction. I kept thinking, how can just an apparently realistically grounded and moral/ethical man ignore the impact of our foreign policy on the Palestinians, and on our own growing bad reputation in the world?
Cuisine appropriation. That’s a good one. As if Jews are not allowed to sell Hummus.
You’re a broken record, hophmi. One of the alternatives that is being recommended to those who boycott Sabra is Moshe’s Hummus. Its really not all about Jews, sweetie. Its all about the occupation and who is supporting it. Does your knee jerk so hard that you have to defend the occupation just because its enforced and supported by Jewish Israelis?
Actually there is an issue of appropriation. When Ashkenazi Israeli Jews open stores and make hummus calling it “Israeli Hummus,” it is a part of what Israel has done to the Palestinians – it’s the appropriation (I would say expropriation) of our culture. It is part and parcel of Israel’s dilution & dismissal of Palestinian people. Do you recall Hummus being a staple of the diet of people anywhere in Europe pre-1948? On the flip, Hummus WAS a staple of the Mizrahim diet and is native cuisine for them, so I’m able to understand that they’re not ex/appropriating.
PS: It’s silly to say “Jews are not allowed to sell Hummus.” The issue is when hummus becomes “Israeli Hummus.”
So if Sabra were a Palestinian-Israeli run company that employed primarily Palestinians, you’d have the same campaign?
In Seattle, an effort by the Seattle Mideast Awareness campaign begins on December 27th. They will run huge banner signs on a dozen Metro buses for a month. Here’s a link to my brief post on it, including Seattle TV news footage on KING.
Please take a second and vote in the on-line poll on the King 5 TV news site. We’d like to keep these ads on the busses!
link to king5.com
just voted. So far out of circa 5000, 49% yes, 51% no
Now it’s at 8000 voters with 51% saying yes.
I’m delighted to see this. I’ve ridden a lot of miles on those buses.
This campaign is silly. Who cares about hummus or who sells it?
If these folks can get their anti-apartheid message out there on signs, as it looks like they can, they’d do a lot better to show pictures of Al-Dura or other dead babies than clever takes on the branding of a weird food that only elites eat anyway.
*That* would turn some heads and start a conversation worth having.
All that would do is get the ADL to complain and have the signs removed or banned on the grounds they are anti Semtic, blood libel, Protocols of Zion perpetuating.
Unless you’ve had your head in the sand for the past half century, you’d realize that even using the term apartheid is pushing the envelope in this country.
“All that would do is get the ADL to complain and have the signs removed or banned on the grounds they are anti Semtic, blood libel, Protocols of Zion perpetuating.”
You’ve got a damn good point there, one I hadn’t thought about. I guess my thought was, if they can smuggle the word apartheid into these ads, why not go for the brass ring? I mean, hummus is one thing I guess. But the goal is to alter a society, and boycotting what most people consider a specialty food seems like the long way around. (I know, I know, it’s already been pointed out that you west coast hippies eat hummus like it’s mother’s milk. But the rest of the universe isn’t all that into it.)
By brass ring I mean, show us faces of apartheid. Shock us. Show us what apartheid really means. Like that Time magazine cover a month ago that had the afghan woman with her nose chopped off. That image is still with me.
Gellian, do you know what the difference between apartheid and occupation are? How can a people under occupation also be living in apartheid?
(I know, I know, it’s already been pointed out that you west coast hippies eat hummus like it’s mother’s milk. But the rest of the universe isn’t all that into it.)
You don’t have a clue about ethnic dishes, do you? Do you live in some gated community where you think the only ones outside your little neighborhood are “west coast hippies”?
How can a people under occupation also be living in apartheid?
Are you that unthinking that you can’t figure out the answer yourself, yonira?
Apartheid is separate legal and economic systems based on racial or ethnic differences. In the Occupied West Bank, the Palestinians are under a separate Israeli military legal system (hence the word “occupation”) whereas Jewish settlers in the west Bank are under the Israeli civil legal system. And the economic systems are likewise separate and discriminatory towards the Palestinians. Hence, it is apartheid also. If there were NO Jewish settlers in the West Bank, OR if those Jewish settlers were treated the same way as the Palestinians are by the Israeli military and government then it would not be “apartheid” there. Neither is the case, as you well know.
The 2 conditions are not mutually exclusive Yonira, and you know it.
It is incumbent upon the occupier to insure that the human rights of occupied populations are respected. Israel is not doing that.
It is incumbent upon the occupier not to settle in the occupied territory. Israel is doing that.
Both of these violations means that the occupied population is being mistreated, oppressed, brutalized, routinely murdered, disenfranchised, denied access to their own land, and of course, segregated.
Apartheid is actually an under statement,
I don’t disagree with your suggestion Gellian, but like I said, you have to get this staff past the censors. What good is going for the brass ring if no one is going to be allowed to see it?
Great talking points Shingo, but you did zero to prove the two are mutually exclusive. People under occupation are not members of that occupying government.
Your Palestinian Hasbara is quite stale.
Great talking points Shingo, but you did zero to prove the two are mutually exclusive.
I get it that “talking points” is one of the new phrases they taught you at remedial hasbara school, but Shingo wasn’t trying to prove they are mutually exclusive. You were. Is this a new trend of yours to go around refuting your own talking points and eliminating the middle man?
Yes, Israel have gotten around that by breaking the 4th Geneva Convention and building illegal settlements on land seized through warfare. That way, the settlers are protected by the occupying government and the Palestinians are denied that option.
It’s a bit like arguing that killing a black man a century ago was not really murder, because black people didn’t qualify as a human beings.
As I said, apartheid is actually an under statement.
Just for you, yonira, the Magnes Zionist has a post on the just released HRW report on the differential treatment (i.e. apartheid) between Jews and Palestinians in the West Bank.
From the report:
more at link above…
The Hasbarats have such a phobia about the apartheid term that they’ll go to any lenghts to argue that the situation is not apartheid.
Some Ive debated even going so far as to admit the situation in the OT it’s actually worse that apartheid, and insisting therefore that the term apartis is innapropriate.
I agree with what Shingo said. Dead baby pictures would not be effective at all.
,,,the branding of a weird food that only elites eat anyway.
You must live in a bubble. Hummus is not considered a “weird food” where I live (LA) and its eaten by everyone. No one i know considers it at “elite” food. You’d be laughed out of town if you made such a comment.
i didn’t want to be the first one to say it, but i agree whole heartily. dead babies, pllllease. and hummus is like peanut butter or beans and rice, staples, protein. sheesh.
“You must live in a bubble. Hummus is not considered a “weird food” where I live (LA) and its eaten by everyone. No one i know considers it at “elite” food. You’d be laughed out of town if you made such a comment.”
Must be an east coast/west coast thing. I’m an east coast elite myself and I eat hummus, but I am pretty sure none of the more grounded people I know do. They all think it’s weird. Which it is.
Just noticed you answered my question above. That explains a lot. I take it that none of the “grounded” people you know are ethnic minorities.
i didn’t realize princeton was on the west coast. whoops, it isn’t. they must keep their cafeteria stocked w/hummus for all those hippie kids.
I live in a small town in Iowa and I eat hummus. It’s sold at the local grocery stores, and even at WalMart.
I, too, enjoy hummus, especially “Canadian hummus”. It’s the best! :-)
You guys are all missing the point. It’s not that nobody eats hummus. Of course they do. The problem is that people who eat hummus are already likely to be on your side. You don’t need to convert them. You need to convert people like my friend Joe, the carpenter, who wouldn’t eat hummus if you paid him. He eats burgers. If he’s ever even heard of hummus, he’s not likely to care who makes or sells it.
You can resent that, call him or me uncultured, or whatever. You can suspect, as tree does, that I don’t have any brown friends. Or you can take the larger point that if you’ve got money and a sympathetic space to splay your ads, you should use it to go for the throat. Apartheid, unjust occupation, call it what you want. (That’s for you, Yonira.) Same difference. Just show it. Christians open their wallets all the time for little pictures of starving brown babies all around the world. I bet they’ll do the same this time, if they can see what’s going on in Gaza. Riffing on an obscure brand of an obscurish food isn’t the best allocation of resources.
“I take it that none of the “grounded” people you know are ethnic minorities.”
Right, they aren’t. Rural white poverty, to a man. That’s who I mean. And lots and lots of it where I live. In my experience ethnic minorities are all more likely to be sympathetic to the Palestinian experience already.
>> You guys are all missing the point. … Christians open their wallets all the time for little pictures of starving brown babies all around the world. I bet they’ll do the same this time, if they can see what’s going on in Gaza. Riffing on an obscure brand of an obscurish food isn’t the best allocation of resources.
Images of homes, towns, well, fields being destroyed would have more emotional impact and would open more wallets for donation, but it seems to me the purpose of the poster depicted in this thread is to *close* wallets in support of BDS.
Perhaps it would be more effective to combine an image of the product to be boycotted superimposed upon images of destruction:
- Pharmaceutical companies / destroyed homes and wells.
- Hummus / Palestinian fields covered in Israeli sewage.
- Investment firms / images from Cast Lead.
Et cetera.
Now that is a good idea.
This may be a silly idea, but how about using focus groups and other market research tools before creating ads-you know, identifying the demographic that has the potential to be sympathetic to Palestinians, and then finding out from them what kind of ad they respond to. I mean why can all guess what will work, but some research would help.
Joer, this is an excellent suggestion! It could also be used to identify the kind of ads that would be effective with the demographic that is not presently sympathetic to the Palestinians…
I also agree. The US would never have pictures of dead Afghanistani, Iraqi, Pakistani, or Palestinian babies. Israeli babies, perhaps, and they would have to be Jewish. But Americans are pretty numb when it comes to pictures of the horrendous numbers of dead babies and adults we daily provide the world, thanks to our many wars. Pictures of dead dogs are probably a more effective way of getting anyone’s attention.
Last night I caught part of this programme on ABC Channel 24. (That’s the all-news, all current affairs, channel.)
link to abc.net.au
Watch it.
Talk of people “rediscovering their Martian, etc., identity” makes me cringe, but Buttu made really strong points that the humanitarian problem derives from the apartheid policies of the Israelis, and that the two-state solution is an essentially racist solution.
Loewenstein is younger and scruffier than I expected (never seen him before) but he made some good points about I/P in Australian politics, and was rather rude about the Very Wonderful Julia Gillard.
Best of all, there is no Israeli propaganist there to provide “balance”.
Comments are supportive, too.
I was thinking of reporting the comments that insult hummus.
“Cultural and Cuisine Appropriation”?! Is this supposed to be funny? A parody on the boycott campaign?