PS – I am waiting for the cartoon of deposed Arab leaders commiserating on a remote island somewhere… (and by the way, the word for island in Arabic is Jazeera… )
Yeah, it great, and also complete bullshit. Does anyone have any idea how many people have suffered, been imprisoned, and have died over these 30 years? Do you know how much was stolen and what kind of fetid elite (which everyone seems to totally forget) has been formed and benefited off of this disaster for the people? Oh yeah, what a clever cartoon. And its not over yet, if you think it is you have some sort of mental block.
Avi, I mentioned at another post why I do not have a smile on my face, let me repeat it for you –
Let me be a little more frank, I see this occurring in order to give a new face and a bit of concession from Western hegemony – so that Israel will be left alone. It is like popping the cork on a champagne bottle, there is all of that pent up frustration and desperation that has correctly accrued.
With “agreement” coming from the West over what the Egyptians did to their dictator, it is a “come home to poppa” ploy. You bribe them off with a pittance so you can continue your exploitative process in the region. If you note carefully there has been repeated affirmation by the “transition team” that ALL treaties will be honored – which is code for everything that has “normalized” Israel’s existence in the region. There has been a call for everyone to “go back to work and work hard, make Egypt proud” from the adopted hero’s of the so-called revolution.
Now, I know this conception of what has occurred might just be a bit too complicated for most, or perhaps people are just too naive – I don’t know. As I have said before, when I heard this “peaceful peaceful peaceful” chant which signaled the “non-violence” movement, which serves as nothing but a recuperative process so that the heinous business of the powers that be can continue with little disruption.
Now, either people learn this lesson, or you can die disappointed that nothing of consequence resembling real change has occurred. My suspicions were confirmed when I saw the material used by the “resistance” (actually not worthy of the name “revolution,’ which if you have not noticed, the MSM has been really keen to adopt the word – but, don’t be suspicious about that…), which was the resistance that supposedly overthrew Slobodan Milošević and destroyed Yugoslavia, and pray tell – what has been the result of that (another question never asked)? Have the people advanced? No, there is absolute misery, a descent into so many tragic stories, abject poverty…
The Camp David Accords called for full autonomy of the inhabitants of the West Bank and Gaza within a period “not exceeding five years” and said that “the Israeli military government and its civilian administration will be withdrawn as soon as a self-governing authority has been freely elected by the inhabitants of these areas to replace the existing military government.” When will Israel and the US honor that agreement?
Israel and the US ignored the results of the Palestinian elections. They have repeatedly lashed out at UN specialized agencies and other countries that have attempted to recognize an existing State of Palestine within the pre-war frontiers. Israel and the US claim that recognition is “premature”. This, despite the fact that the UN mandated the creation of an Arab state in Palestine 60 years ago; and that the deadlines for negotiations under the terms of Camp David, Oslo, the Quartet Roadmap, and Annapolis have each expired. In the meantime, Israel has been found guilty by the World Court of deliberately violating the core human rights of the Palestinians, including their right to self-determination.
except when Liberal Jews are in the Israeli army, they stand at check points, at Ben-Gurion, at Erez and Rafah and say in an always irritated tone like they can’t be bothered with your kind, “hewiiya!”
When it comes to Palestine/Israel, the “Liberal Jews” are more likely to be supporters of the reason why the tired, poor huddled masses of Palestinians are yearning to breath free than they are working to shine the lamp of freedom. PEPs, indeed.
RE: “My idiot husband…promises not to do it again.” – ‘Lady’ Liberty
SEE: Top US military commander to visit Israel, Jordan ~ By Agence France-Presse, Raw Story, 02/12/11
(excerpt) WASHINGTON – The top US military commander will visit Israel and Jordan Sunday and Monday to reaffirm US support following the collapse of the presidency of Hosni Mubarak in Egypt.
Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral Mike Mullen will begin his trip in Amman where he will meet with King Abdullah II and his Jordanian counterpart, Lieutenant General Meshaal Al-Zabn.
“He will discuss security issues of mutual concern and reassure both these key partners of the US military’s commitment to that partnership,” Pentagon spokesman Captain John Kirby said…
It’s not bad news, it’s utterly predictable — countries don’t just ditch treaties at the drop of a hat even when they undergo regime change… it would be very self-destructive for Egypt to suddenly do what – declare war? At a moment when their leadership and chain of command is in chaos? Only in Netanyahu’s wildly paranoic imagination. Let’s get real here… it was obvious from the getgo that the treaty would hold for now, at least until there is some kind of permanent government in place to deliberate it.
I wouldn’t sweat it if your concern is for the treaty to be broken. Sooner or later, Israel will blithely do that for Egypt, and I have a hard time imagining that the post-Mubarak government, whatever it is, will tolerate that with bowed head.
what you say makes sense but wouldn’t it have been reassuring had the military communique included a statement that the revolutionary council had been in on the decision?
Chaos, I think you and bijou are going to scratching your heads a decade from now asking – why did nothing substantive with the “Egyptian Revolution (see my post above February 13, 2011 at 9:19 am). occur?” This youth movement in Egypt was infiltrated by neoliberal agents at almost its inception by Otpor, which is funded by a group called the “National Endowment For Democracy.” What is the National Endowment? It is a US organization started under the Reagan era funded by and supported by the CIA. It is an instrument of the “free market” crowd, and the maiden of Imperialism. NED also pays for the Center For International Enterprise, which in turn funded the G7 start-up.
I have to admit that I was somewhat uncertain of this at the outset of the “Revolution,” so I was somewhat swept away with the optimism which swept the terrain. However, now I am certain that you will never see any of the “peaceful reforms” that so many deluded individuals hoped for with this “resistance.” I am not sure that even those who were so desperate in Egypt, or its youth movement are aware of these facts – than again I could be wrong, they might be complicit or a tiny core or even a couple of them might be privy and merely be instruments willingly used.
This is probably not the news you wanted to hear, and you are welcome to keep stroking yourselves with fervent delusion. For the rest who have some modicum of critical thinking apparatus, I reapeat -
Excerpt from Peacenicks For Imperialism, in reference to Otpor (the primary organ influencing the youth movement of Egypt) and it being bankrolled by the US –
“Spencer: Recently we showed the film about Otpor (an underground destabilization group trained by Robert Helvey and bankrolled by the US government) and the overthrow of Milosevic, Bringing Down a Dictator. Lots of pro-Milosevic people were present. The real issue for them is, here is the evil US…funding this nonviolent resistance. To them that’s a cardinal sin. A government cannot sponsor the overthrow of another government!”
Just to leave no doubts in case someone has trouble reading the above link.
Oh, and as a side-note, you need look no further than this site if you want to see the NED influenced student resistant movement by Otpor in Egypt. See – THE STORY BEHIND THE EGYPTIAN REVOLUTION, by Adam Horowitz, with the al Jazeera video and go 4:25 minutes into it (you should actually watch the entire video).
To further give you some reasons why I am pessimistic when it comes to what will result in regard to this “revolution” (outside of the devastating but solid facts I have already posted), let me give you another quote from that excellent article by “whats left” (posted above) Peaceniks for Imperialism –
“Peace Magazine and the destabilizers present US interventions as progressive, guided by opposition to tyranny and the goal of spreading democracy. But the question is whether the democracy the destabilizers promote is a cover for another kind of tyranny, that of domination by US corporate and financial interests. One way to tell is to look at the outcome of successful interventions. Who benefited? Who was injured? In Yugoslavia, the intervention the destabilizers point to with particular pride, the overthrow of the socialist Milosevic, was soon followed by a spate of privatizations, in which formerly publically- and socially-owned assets were bought by Western investors. In Eastern Europe, where a similar destabilization paradigm helped bring about the collapse of socialism and its replacement by a liberal-democratic-capitalist model, joblessness, economic insecurity, deep inequality and the recrudescence of previously virtually eliminated diseases, replaced equality of income, education, healthcare and opportunity. That the outcomes of US interventions have not been progressive may explain why the destabilizers never consider them.”
>> But the question is whether the democracy the destabilizers promote is a cover for another kind of tyranny, that of domination by US corporate and financial interests.
VR, i have had similar doubts and concerns, it all has reminded me a little too much of the Obama campaign and celebrations. i want to believe this is 100% people power, but i am very concerned about this Ghonim character, his Google connection, the fact that on his FB page his list of people who inspire him are Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Warren Buffett and Mohamed El Baradei, the first 3 especially concerned me but so did the last given that my understanding was that protesters did not want him as their new president, he did not have their respect. also i have read about News Corp/ Murdoch and one of the Saudi Prince’s wanting to get in on the emerging media markets and emerging retail markets of the Middle East given the demographics, young and with room to move up/ become consumers. During the weeks of the Revolution I made a comment about the Murdoch/ media/ youth/ Saudi Prince and the need for education/ to be critical thinkers in the Mid East more than ever on the we are all khaled said site and was barked at by the admin, this was the English FB page.
i just get the feeling with the way the revolution and Egypt is being marketed that the people are fighting for democracy and freedom but that the connected businessmen/ civilians in Egypt and abroad were using this Revolution to rid Mubarak and his tax (he required cuts on bids, companies, etc) so that they could have more money in their pockets, so that they can sell off Egypt.
i noticed that Ghonim was the face of the revolution in the USA, but on Arabic channels you had Asma Mahfouz and the April 6 movement. the American channels/ people/ corporations and investors would get nervous from labor protests as well as “union” and “organizing ideas”
Lydda Four Eight, I am not saying that anything good will not come out of the movement, but I am saying the reforms that many hoped for will not become a reality. What will happen is surface activity, if the only goal was the ouster of Mubarak. I believe neoliberal methodologies will be employed, privatizations will take place, and as you said more money will enter the pockets of the few and the added western contingency.
Ghonim is a classic “peacenik for imperialism” as my link with the same name will show. However, I even fear in regard to the April 6th movement, because they listened and co-opted with Otpor which is in the rank of the color “revolutions” which have brought nothing substantive to any people.
I believe that the only way to remove the people from impending perils is to put the entire means of production in the hands of the people, without this it will only slide further into the grip of the few. The union and organizing ideas are hopeful, especially if they are led by any true revolutionary socialist movement worthy of the name – but if not, they to can be quelled with just a little more for the workers (for how long? Who knows how long before the supposed advances will be reversed). What I am talking about is the difference between true revolution, and surface reforms – and if all we have are surface reforms you can forget anything accruing to the Palestinians in the process (especially with the multiple calls for the validity of all treaties repeatedly voiced by the “transition” crew).
As for myself, I don’t care what they think of my posts, just recognize the truth and apply critical analysis to what I am saying. For something closer to what I am proposing see the work of Hossam el-Hamalawy.
Half of Israel’s eligible youth don’t enlist– and ranks of ‘gray resisters’ grow http://t.co/5QuN0jC3k8,2 hours ago
RT @MJayRosenberg: I said to top Weiner staffer. "I know he fakes it on Israel but he cares about working people." Answer: NO. He cares ab…,3 hours ago
I love it. :)
OK, that is a brilliant editorial cartoon. Also, the idea of the Statue of Liberty writing a Valentine and apologizing for Uncle Sam? Priceless.
wonderful!
Too bad Matson didn’t put an AIPAC lapel button on addled old Uncle Sam, like this one:
link to cgi.ebay.com
In the wake of le défi égyptien, they’re on sale for 50% off! No reasonable offer refused! ;-)
yep
Matson also captured the USA domestic front: link to rjmatson.com
Now he needs to combine those two cartoons of his.
Beautiful!
uncle sam admitting that he’s been bad?
that’s a first
Also suggestive of Hill & Bill…
she looks like Hillary LEVERETT
link to youtube.com
PS – I am waiting for the cartoon of deposed Arab leaders commiserating on a remote island somewhere… (and by the way, the word for island in Arabic is Jazeera… )
That’s great. I love it.
Hi,
That is a wonderful summing-up.
Kind regards,
MN
A uniquely appropriate political cartoon.
Yeah, it great, and also complete bullshit. Does anyone have any idea how many people have suffered, been imprisoned, and have died over these 30 years? Do you know how much was stolen and what kind of fetid elite (which everyone seems to totally forget) has been formed and benefited off of this disaster for the people? Oh yeah, what a clever cartoon. And its not over yet, if you think it is you have some sort of mental block.
Bullshit? Valentine’s Day? Some mad ramblings from Ophelia to fix the mental block (it is a great cartoon):
To-morrow is Saint Valentine’s day,
All in the morning betime,
And I a maid at your window,
To be your Valentine.
Then up he rose, and donn’d his clothes,
And dupp’d the chamber- door;
Let in the maid, that out a maid
Never departed more.
By Gis and by Saint Charity,
Alack, and fie for shame!
Young men will do’t, if they come to’t;
By cock, they are to blame.
Quoth she, before you tumbled me,
You promised me to wed.
So would I ha’ done, by yonder sun,
An thou hadst not come to my bed.
VR, you seem to be on a negative streak today. Even the Egyptians who have suffered under the 30-year oppression have smiles on their faces today.
Avi, I mentioned at another post why I do not have a smile on my face, let me repeat it for you –
Let me be a little more frank, I see this occurring in order to give a new face and a bit of concession from Western hegemony – so that Israel will be left alone. It is like popping the cork on a champagne bottle, there is all of that pent up frustration and desperation that has correctly accrued.
With “agreement” coming from the West over what the Egyptians did to their dictator, it is a “come home to poppa” ploy. You bribe them off with a pittance so you can continue your exploitative process in the region. If you note carefully there has been repeated affirmation by the “transition team” that ALL treaties will be honored – which is code for everything that has “normalized” Israel’s existence in the region. There has been a call for everyone to “go back to work and work hard, make Egypt proud” from the adopted hero’s of the so-called revolution.
Now, I know this conception of what has occurred might just be a bit too complicated for most, or perhaps people are just too naive – I don’t know. As I have said before, when I heard this “peaceful peaceful peaceful” chant which signaled the “non-violence” movement, which serves as nothing but a recuperative process so that the heinous business of the powers that be can continue with little disruption.
PACIFYING RESISTANCE
Now, either people learn this lesson, or you can die disappointed that nothing of consequence resembling real change has occurred. My suspicions were confirmed when I saw the material used by the “resistance” (actually not worthy of the name “revolution,’ which if you have not noticed, the MSM has been really keen to adopt the word – but, don’t be suspicious about that…), which was the resistance that supposedly overthrew Slobodan Milošević and destroyed Yugoslavia, and pray tell – what has been the result of that (another question never asked)? Have the people advanced? No, there is absolute misery, a descent into so many tragic stories, abject poverty…
THE WEIGHT OF CHAINS
Need I say again, it is time to wake up
The Camp David Accords called for full autonomy of the inhabitants of the West Bank and Gaza within a period “not exceeding five years” and said that “the Israeli military government and its civilian administration will be withdrawn as soon as a self-governing authority has been freely elected by the inhabitants of these areas to replace the existing military government.” When will Israel and the US honor that agreement?
Israel and the US ignored the results of the Palestinian elections. They have repeatedly lashed out at UN specialized agencies and other countries that have attempted to recognize an existing State of Palestine within the pre-war frontiers. Israel and the US claim that recognition is “premature”. This, despite the fact that the UN mandated the creation of an Arab state in Palestine 60 years ago; and that the deadlines for negotiations under the terms of Camp David, Oslo, the Quartet Roadmap, and Annapolis have each expired. In the meantime, Israel has been found guilty by the World Court of deliberately violating the core human rights of the Palestinians, including their right to self-determination.
Here’s an Italian cartoon by the great Staino: link to unita.it
The bubbles read:
- Quick! Let’s phone our friends in Italy …
- … to tell them there’s hope for them yet!
Great Cartoon. Truth by Jest.
Another would be writing the Dear John letter to Israel, and a sign off with “we can still be friends.”
Dear Jonah… (LOL)
“Give me your tired, your poor.” (the statue of liberty’s voice)
Paleo-conservatives don’t say that, nor do libertarians. Liberals do. Liberal Jews particularly.
except when Liberal Jews are in the Israeli army, they stand at check points, at Ben-Gurion, at Erez and Rafah and say in an always irritated tone like they can’t be bothered with your kind, “hewiiya!”
Do Liberal Jews also think that Jews need to live in Jewish-exclusive communities? (Not the real Liberal Jews. To be sure.)
“Liberal Jews particularly.”
When it comes to Palestine/Israel, the “Liberal Jews” are more likely to be supporters of the reason why the tired, poor huddled masses of Palestinians are yearning to breath free than they are working to shine the lamp of freedom. PEPs, indeed.
RE: “My idiot husband…promises not to do it again.” – ‘Lady’ Liberty
SEE: Top US military commander to visit Israel, Jordan ~ By Agence France-Presse, Raw Story, 02/12/11
ENTIRE ARTICLE – link to rawstory.com
bad news
“miltary says no break in peace treaty with israel” – Huffington Post
bad news because in a revolutionary society isn’t it up to the people to decide on such an important issue?
is this how the revolution’s going to turn out?
with one military tyrant being replaced by another military tyrant?
either the egyptian people assert themselves now or all could be lost
yes, they’ll have memories of a glorious revolution
but unless they remain vigilant and regain control
one that lasted only two weeks
It’s not bad news, it’s utterly predictable — countries don’t just ditch treaties at the drop of a hat even when they undergo regime change… it would be very self-destructive for Egypt to suddenly do what – declare war? At a moment when their leadership and chain of command is in chaos? Only in Netanyahu’s wildly paranoic imagination. Let’s get real here… it was obvious from the getgo that the treaty would hold for now, at least until there is some kind of permanent government in place to deliberate it.
I wouldn’t sweat it if your concern is for the treaty to be broken. Sooner or later, Israel will blithely do that for Egypt, and I have a hard time imagining that the post-Mubarak government, whatever it is, will tolerate that with bowed head.
bijou & chaos
what you say makes sense but wouldn’t it have been reassuring had the military communique included a statement that the revolutionary council had been in on the decision?
Chaos, I think you and bijou are going to scratching your heads a decade from now asking – why did nothing substantive with the “Egyptian Revolution (see my post above February 13, 2011 at 9:19 am). occur?” This youth movement in Egypt was infiltrated by neoliberal agents at almost its inception by Otpor, which is funded by a group called the “National Endowment For Democracy.” What is the National Endowment? It is a US organization started under the Reagan era funded by and supported by the CIA. It is an instrument of the “free market” crowd, and the maiden of Imperialism. NED also pays for the Center For International Enterprise, which in turn funded the G7 start-up.
I have to admit that I was somewhat uncertain of this at the outset of the “Revolution,” so I was somewhat swept away with the optimism which swept the terrain. However, now I am certain that you will never see any of the “peaceful reforms” that so many deluded individuals hoped for with this “resistance.” I am not sure that even those who were so desperate in Egypt, or its youth movement are aware of these facts – than again I could be wrong, they might be complicit or a tiny core or even a couple of them might be privy and merely be instruments willingly used.
PEACENICKS FOR IMPERIALISM
This is probably not the news you wanted to hear, and you are welcome to keep stroking yourselves with fervent delusion. For the rest who have some modicum of critical thinking apparatus, I reapeat -
WAKE UP!
Lets get with the real revolution worthy of the name.
Excerpt from Peacenicks For Imperialism, in reference to Otpor (the primary organ influencing the youth movement of Egypt) and it being bankrolled by the US –
“Spencer: Recently we showed the film about Otpor (an underground destabilization group trained by Robert Helvey and bankrolled by the US government) and the overthrow of Milosevic, Bringing Down a Dictator. Lots of pro-Milosevic people were present. The real issue for them is, here is the evil US…funding this nonviolent resistance. To them that’s a cardinal sin. A government cannot sponsor the overthrow of another government!”
Just to leave no doubts in case someone has trouble reading the above link.
Oh, and as a side-note, you need look no further than this site if you want to see the NED influenced student resistant movement by Otpor in Egypt. See – THE STORY BEHIND THE EGYPTIAN REVOLUTION, by Adam Horowitz, with the al Jazeera video and go 4:25 minutes into it (you should actually watch the entire video).
THE POST ON MONDOWEISS
To further give you some reasons why I am pessimistic when it comes to what will result in regard to this “revolution” (outside of the devastating but solid facts I have already posted), let me give you another quote from that excellent article by “whats left” (posted above) Peaceniks for Imperialism –
“Peace Magazine and the destabilizers present US interventions as progressive, guided by opposition to tyranny and the goal of spreading democracy. But the question is whether the democracy the destabilizers promote is a cover for another kind of tyranny, that of domination by US corporate and financial interests. One way to tell is to look at the outcome of successful interventions. Who benefited? Who was injured? In Yugoslavia, the intervention the destabilizers point to with particular pride, the overthrow of the socialist Milosevic, was soon followed by a spate of privatizations, in which formerly publically- and socially-owned assets were bought by Western investors. In Eastern Europe, where a similar destabilization paradigm helped bring about the collapse of socialism and its replacement by a liberal-democratic-capitalist model, joblessness, economic insecurity, deep inequality and the recrudescence of previously virtually eliminated diseases, replaced equality of income, education, healthcare and opportunity. That the outcomes of US interventions have not been progressive may explain why the destabilizers never consider them.”
>> But the question is whether the democracy the destabilizers promote is a cover for another kind of tyranny, that of domination by US corporate and financial interests.
Naomi Klein: “The Shock Doctrine”
Exactly eljay, exactly – that is why I said what I did above @ February 13, 2011 at 9:19 am.
>> Exactly eljay, exactly – that is why I said what I did above @ February 13, 2011 at 9:19 am.
Yeah, I sensed that… ;-)
VR, i have had similar doubts and concerns, it all has reminded me a little too much of the Obama campaign and celebrations. i want to believe this is 100% people power, but i am very concerned about this Ghonim character, his Google connection, the fact that on his FB page his list of people who inspire him are Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Warren Buffett and Mohamed El Baradei, the first 3 especially concerned me but so did the last given that my understanding was that protesters did not want him as their new president, he did not have their respect. also i have read about News Corp/ Murdoch and one of the Saudi Prince’s wanting to get in on the emerging media markets and emerging retail markets of the Middle East given the demographics, young and with room to move up/ become consumers. During the weeks of the Revolution I made a comment about the Murdoch/ media/ youth/ Saudi Prince and the need for education/ to be critical thinkers in the Mid East more than ever on the we are all khaled said site and was barked at by the admin, this was the English FB page.
i just get the feeling with the way the revolution and Egypt is being marketed that the people are fighting for democracy and freedom but that the connected businessmen/ civilians in Egypt and abroad were using this Revolution to rid Mubarak and his tax (he required cuts on bids, companies, etc) so that they could have more money in their pockets, so that they can sell off Egypt.
i noticed that Ghonim was the face of the revolution in the USA, but on Arabic channels you had Asma Mahfouz and the April 6 movement. the American channels/ people/ corporations and investors would get nervous from labor protests as well as “union” and “organizing ideas”
Lydda Four Eight, I am not saying that anything good will not come out of the movement, but I am saying the reforms that many hoped for will not become a reality. What will happen is surface activity, if the only goal was the ouster of Mubarak. I believe neoliberal methodologies will be employed, privatizations will take place, and as you said more money will enter the pockets of the few and the added western contingency.
Ghonim is a classic “peacenik for imperialism” as my link with the same name will show. However, I even fear in regard to the April 6th movement, because they listened and co-opted with Otpor which is in the rank of the color “revolutions” which have brought nothing substantive to any people.
I believe that the only way to remove the people from impending perils is to put the entire means of production in the hands of the people, without this it will only slide further into the grip of the few. The union and organizing ideas are hopeful, especially if they are led by any true revolutionary socialist movement worthy of the name – but if not, they to can be quelled with just a little more for the workers (for how long? Who knows how long before the supposed advances will be reversed). What I am talking about is the difference between true revolution, and surface reforms – and if all we have are surface reforms you can forget anything accruing to the Palestinians in the process (especially with the multiple calls for the validity of all treaties repeatedly voiced by the “transition” crew).
As for myself, I don’t care what they think of my posts, just recognize the truth and apply critical analysis to what I am saying. For something closer to what I am proposing see the work of Hossam el-Hamalawy.
3ARABAWY
Now if you will excuse me I am exhausted
Neither funny nor brilliant: contemporary Jewish humor à la Stürmer from Jewsforsarah.com
link to jewsforsarah.com
“Promise not to do it again”… so too do abusive spouses ;)