The Zionist Organization of America says that the late Elizabeth Taylor was an "ardent Zionist." Much of her ardor seems to have been circa the 50s-60s. Egypt wouldn't let the makers of "Cleopatra" film in Egypt. From the Jewish Journal:
In 1975, she was one of 60 prominent women to sign a statement to then-U.N. Secretary General Kurt Waldheim condemning the U.N. General Assembly’s infamous Zionism-is-Racism resolution. Taylor offered herself as a hostage when 104 hostages aboard an Air France airbus were hijacked by PLO terrorists and held at Uganda’s Entebbe Airport, from which they rescued in a spectacular Israeli commando mission on July 4, 1976, America’s 200th birthday.
Taylor frequently visited Israel and met with its leadership, including Prime Minister Menachem Begin in 1983..ZOA National President Morton A. Klein said, “Elizabeth Taylor was not only a wonderful actress but a wonderful Zionist.
Does that line up with her affair with Eddie Fisher? She sure lined up the roles in Hollywood that could explain some of that. She was not a bad actress but she certainly was no Meryl Streep. That kind of beauty along with her pro Zionist stance could explain her access
According to a Nusbaum Ivry quote in The Forward:
“Biographer Kitty Kelley quotes Taylor as saying: ‘I felt terribly sorry for the suffering of the Jews during the war. I was attracted to their heritage. I guess I identified with them as underdogs.’”
Well, certainly to the information available in America when Liz was 27 and converted, Israel did look like the underdog. Anybody have any data on her thoughts about this in the last few decades?
“I felt terribly sorry for the suffering of the Jews during the war.”
You would have to have your head up where the sun does not shine and have a heart as cold as an iceberg to not feel compassion, empathy for the suffering of Jews and all others who were “massacred” during WWII.
Anger too. Stand behind all who demanded some sort of accountability and compensation. Not that there could be anything that could compensate for the atrocities. Still important
Stand behind all victims of war and oppression…. and demands for accountability and compensation
I’m sorry to say (well not really) that she was a melodramatic bimbo.
a very pretty melodramatic bimbo.
As far as acting Elizabeth Taylor was no Meryl Streep. Not even close.
Her beauty who knows sounds like her Zionist stance could have taken her a long way in Hollywood
uh oh, you like meryl streep?
Is there a more talented actress in Hollywood’s history? Vanessa Redgrave? No I go back to Streep.
After sobbing during “Sophie’s choice” I walked out to the lobby of our small up town theater and told friends waiting for the next showing I needed a recovery discussion room just off the lobby.
Who is better than Streep?
How about Natalie Portman?
link to wakeupfromyourslumber.com
2008
Meryl Streep suffered a huge disappointment recently. No, it wasn’t losing another Oscar (honestly, she deserves to win every year she’s nominated, but the Academy apparently thinks she’s gotten her share already). No, Meryl Streep found out that she is not Dutch.
And why does that matter to us? Well, Meryl thought that not only was she Dutch, but also a descendant of Dutch Jews. Supposedly, her father’s side of the family emigrated from Spain to Holland. Instead of signing their Jewish last name, they drew a line… or “streep” in Dutch.
But sadly for Meryl, that is not the case. Recent research found that her paternal great-grandfather brought his last name not from Holland, but from Germany. And it wasn’t Streep, it was Streebe.
And sadly for us as well. Here we thought that Meryl was (at least partly) one of us, but what can we do? Although… according to the same research, she still might have a Jewish linkage, even if it wasn’t as strong as she once thought. And have you seen her performance in “Prime”, when she plays a Jewish mother and nails it? Every turn of the head, every look, every nuance?
All right. Fine. Meryl Streep is not a Jew. She is just a terrific actress. A terrific goyishe actress. Talk about a huge disappointment.
Verdict: Sadly, not a Jew.
Elizabeth Taylor had two great films to her credit: “A Place in the Sun” based on the Dreiser novel “an American Tragedy” in which she played opposite Monty Clift and every scene that they shared positively sizzled, and also “Who’s Afraid of Virginia Woolf?” in which her mutual love/hatred with Richard Burton was something outstanding in mainstream cinema for the 1960′s. Her exceptional acting in those two films makes one wonder if there was little acting involved in either film or whether she only was capable of great acting when someone or something: a fellow actor or a script or a director was able to draw it out of her.
Did any of you see Streep in Angels in America, playing an orthodox rabbi, Ethel Rosenberg, and cranky Mormon?
Potential for sure. Really like her too.
You’re right, Kathleen, Streep is the most talented Hollywood actress in history. Imagine the additional kudos and opportunities she’d have if she was Jewish, instead of…..
Portman does not make a pimple on Streep’s heinie.
Meryl Streep is phenomenal, I agree.
I find Streep a bit of a bore (though she can act obviously), but not sufficiently enough that I can say I dislike her. I think that’s the issue: she’s vanilla. However, I do suspect that her nice-as-pie 24/7 public persona is somewhat of an act.
As for Liz Tayor – wondering jew I agree those two roles are great and would also nominate two other films of hers adapted from Tennessee Williams plays: Cat On A Hot Tin Roof and Suddenly Last Summer.
RE: “Elizabeth Taylor had two great films to her credit” – wondering jew
MY COMMENT: She was very good as “Maggie the cat” in Cat on a Hot Tin Roof (1958). And Paul Newman was excellent as Brick, her alchy/alchie hubby drinking until his mind “clicked”.
P.S. Harvey ‘Big Daddy’ Pollitt: “What’s that smell in this room? Didn’t you notice it, Brick? Didn’t you notice a powerful and obnoxious odor of mendacity in this room?”
Cat on a Hot Tin Roof, 1958, NR, 108 minutes
Members of an avaricious Southern clan scramble to curry favor with dying, wealthy patriarch Harvey “Big Daddy” Pollitt (Burl Ives) in this Oscar-nominated adaptation of playwright Tennessee Williams’s sizzling stage drama. Paul Newman stars as alcoholic ex-football star Brick Pollitt, whose self-pity and drunken malice jeopardize not only his inheritance, but also his marriage to the seductive Maggie (Elizabeth Taylor).
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Films aside, it’s pretty damn pathetic that zionists are wheeling out the corpse of dead Hollywood stars that were pro-Israel decades ago to try and prop up their cause. I guess that’s all they’ve got left, re-living the glory days when Americans were so misinformed about Israel they actually believed the hasbara.
Taylor’s page on wikipedia has a new section (created just a few days ago) on her Pro-Israel activism linking to a Washington Post opinion piece claiming that Taylor had a “lasting love” with Israel and a JTA piece where they dip into their archives and haul out Taylor’s pro-Israel activity. She rather seems to have lost interest in the 1980s. No Elizabeth Taylor Zionist Foundation, but there is a still-active Elizabeth Taylor AIDS Foundation and she co-founded the American Foundation for AIDS Research. She was also opposed to the invasion of Iraq and Bushes demand that Hussein left Iraq. I suspect we haven’t heard then end of Taylor’s opinion on Israel just yet, especially the last 2 decades or so.
Sumud, part of me agrees with you regarding Streep. On the vanilla thing, is there a non-vanilla female Hollywood actress who arguably is as talented, as believable in the part as Streep, no matter what character she plays? Is that a biased question because most American movies take place in historically white lands, such as here and Europe? Unlike an octopus, Streep cannot credibly play a character “with flava” beyond, say an Orthodox Jew, because (like Barbi & Ken) she simply does not look the part? It works in reverse too, yes? Sidney Poiter can credibly play a lot of different characters, but he can’t play a white man unless it’s Uncle Tom? Birth type-casts unless one can suspend disbelief like they did in the Middle Ages when men played women’s parts in what amounted to local theatre. Obviously I am not talking about comedy or science fiction.
Aaaah the wonders of bathing in milk and plastic surgery.
And without any class at all. There’s quite a few good-looking young white girls that come on the Jerry Springer Show t00.
I spent a day with Springer. Worked for our county chair. She had me meet and greet many of the so called big wigs that would come to our town. I had to pick him up at the airport and bring him to Athens and take him around to press meetings etc. He was thinking about making a run for Ohio Governor (let him know I did not think he stood a chance against Strickland) not based on his mind his political leanings. Based on his trashy ass show…..ccching. The man is very kind and oh so sharp. He did not mind at all when I told him I thought his show was trash. He laughed. I am sure he has heard that many times.
When kids on our campus would call out to him “Jerry Jerry” he would smile, engage and even listen to their stories. He knows how to feed his hungry audience
I heard Madoff was very kind and sharp in person too. Springer too is a charmer. Mocking and humilating his daily guests, and constantly instigating and catering to their most base spontaneous desires and those of his live audience too, all of them, both guests and live audience, always from the most socio-economically and educationally deprived areas of our national community, is definitely a plus for American culture. Too bad Madoff didn’t have the profitable platform to do the same thing on public TV–our economy might be a tad better off. Together, they make a a particularly effective pair of American dental pliers to show us what our national teeth look like. I guess that Bright Smile flashing is what’s known as Judeo-Christian values.
annie what if id said that? ;)
I thought “bimbo” was strong. But hey Annie hits the nail on the head so often we have to give her a break…especially when it comes to Hollywood stars
She was a Hollywood diva. What did you expect?
Also, Elizabeth Taylor’s dead? Whoa.
Me, I’d rather watch paint dry (but now that it’s spring for real excitement there’s grass and flowers growing) than go to a movie.
I don’t think I have attended 10 movies in my entire life.
I wouldn’t know Meryl Streep from Elisabeth Taylor. And believe me, to do that these days takes a lot of effort.
Watch the Prarie Home Companion Movie, Mooser. That’s the difference between Elizabeth Taylor and Meryl Streep. ;)
Chocolate box pretty. No real character to her face.
RoHa, her face does have character, if you mean Streep. I’d like to see her play Ilse Koch or the mother of a member of the White Rose, or (in her younger days) a Bavarian milk maid, or Bund Deutsches Maedchen matron or (when young) squad member. How much character in her face does Vanessa Williams have, or the actress in
Monster’s Ball? How about the actress who is on the panel of American Idol? (Jennifer Lopez? I forget.) Now, Buscani (sic?) has character in his face, as does the black actor in Driving Miss Daisy, and the one in Pulp Fiction. Agree? I’m interested in what “plain vanilla” means these days. And it’s relation to “plain chocolate.” And how much character does Luci Lin have in her face?
Character you want? You want link to adamswife.files.wordpress.com
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Bullwinkle? We’re not talking about a bit character.
annie was talking about Taylor. So, of course, was I.
In that article it said she converted in 1959
When she married Eddie. Wonder if she converted just before the marriage to Fisher. They were sure breaking alleged Jewish laws a great deal. Both married, adulterers divorced how many times>
“Died:
Eddie Fisher: Eddie died from complications after hip surgery at the age of 82 at his home in Berkeley, California on September 22, 2010.
Elizabeth Taylor: Elizabeth died from congestive heart failure at the age of 79 on March 23, 2011. She died at Cedars-Sinai Hospital in Los Angeles, California. Her children were with her when she died.
How Elizabeth and Eddie Met:
Eddie and Elizabeth and their spouses were close friends.
Wedding Date:
Nine months after Eddie and Liz started their romance, and three and a half hours after he divorced Debbie, Eddie and Elizabeth were married on May 12, 1959 in Las Vegas, Nevada at Temple Beth Sholam. They honeymooned in the Mediterranean on a yacht loaned to them by Sam Spiegel. They also spent time on their honeymoon in Spain.
Eddie: “I divorced Debbie and married Elizabeth the day I finished my run at the Tropicana … It was a typical two-rabbi Jewish ceremony. As usual, Elizabeth was late for her own wedding. We invited very few people, among them our parents and some friends. Mike Todd Jr. was my best man. We were married under the chuppah, a canopy, and as is traditional, at the end of the ceremony I stomped on a wineglass.”
Source: Eddie Fish with David Fisher. Been There, Done that. 1999. pg. 185.
His autobiography’s content is really ultimate seedy banality.
I read some place that she converted when she married Mike Todd.
if you read when she and Eddie married it lines right up to when she converted
I read on Jew Or Not Jew that a rabbi convinced her to convert while she was distraught over Mike Todd’s death.
In her last decades, she stood up for AIDS victims — before it was fashionable — and Michael Jackson — which was never fashionable.
I don’t recall her doing anything for Zionism in those last decades.
This was truly wonderful
Liz did her part to destroy Palestine, and that will be included in the sum total of her life, but she was on types of dope most of her life, so it’s actually amazing that she was able to show up to work most of those years. So the Zionist narrative could have seemed attractive through the fog of medication and alcohol. All I’m saying she shouldn’t be judged as harshly as someone puts himself out there as an expert-like Dershowitz for instance.
As for her acting, I thought she was great in Who’s Afraid of Virginia Woolf, maybe because she and Richard Burton were playing themselves to some extent.
Taylor was in physical pain the majority of her life; it was why she took so many drugs.
The Zionist are always claiming famous dead people ( dead is best so they can’t speak for themselves) were ardent zionist…….did you know George Washington and Abe Lincoln were ardent zionist and the American Revolution drew it’s inspiration from the Israelites?…yep, that’s what they say. LOL
Also Joseph Fliess!
Is Heidi Fleiss still alive?
“Is Heidi Fleiss still alive?”
She lives in my heart, forever!
There’s a friendly review in the London Review of Books of Stacy Schiff’s recent bio of Cleopatra and a mention that Angelina Jolie is about to undertake the role in succession to Elizabeth Taylor. There might also be a strong role for a Jewish actor as Herod the Great, who did so well out of events at that time.
“And sadly for us as well. Here we thought that Meryl was (at least partly) ONE OF US, but what can we do? Although… she still might have a Jewish linkage, even if it wasn’t as strong as she once thought…. All right. Fine. Meryl Streep is not a Jew. She is just a terrific actress. A terrific goyishe actress. Talk about a huge disappointment…. Verdict: Sadly, not a Jew.”
I’m confused, Citizen. Are these your words or are you quoting someone? Haven’t you said before that you are not Jewish?
Why is it sad that Streep is not Jewish? Sad for her? Why? Sad for you? Why? What’s so great/bad about being Jewish? Or “goyishe”?
How would it sound if I said it is sad for me that Elizabeth Taylor was Jewish? And she was so pretty, too. Too bad, what a disappointment!
{OTOH. if Streep is indeed such a Jewish wannabee, maybe it would be a good career move for her to convert and be done with it.)
TR, I’m sorry. I should have acknowledged the quote. It’s from the web site: link to jewornotjew.com
I think your questions are great. See what you think of the philosophy behind the rating by going to the web site, where they tell you how they rate individuals, not so much why. I’m waiting for David Duke to put up a mirror site. (That’s a joke.)
You’re memory did not fail you; I’m not Jewish.
Elizbeth Taylor, like Madonna, was very much into the Kabbala crackpottery thing.. This may explain that.
Kabbalah Celebrities Reply with quote
Madonna and Britney Spears are not the only celebrities practicing Kabbalah. Other celebrities who do include:
Guy Ritchie
Elizabeth Taylor
Lindsay Lohan
Demi Moore
Ashton Kutcher
Roseanne Barr
Jeff Goldblum
Ivana Trump
Mick Jagger ………….
link to uncommonforum.com
Re other celebrities who do:
When you’re born, you get a ticket to the freak show. When you’re born in America, you get a front-row seat.
Others who are associated with this Kabbalah twist on New Age stuff:
• Barbra Streisand
• Jerry Hall
• Naomi Campbell
• Sandra Bernhard
• Lucy Liu
• Paris Hilton
• Nicole Richie
I think the Kutchers quit.
Roseanne Barr, incidentally, is also an anti-Occupation activist. Which might explain why it’s almost impossible for her to find work now. I miss her — her sitcom was wonderful and heartfelt as well as funny.
Roseanne has really come out on this. Respect her for it
Who cares if Elizabeth Taylor and Meryl Street are Jewish or not? And who cares if Natalie Portman is Jewish? I gather Natalie is not a zionist, so her religion is irrelevant to me. Still, I think it’s way too soon to mention her name in the same breath as Meryl Street or Elizabeth Taylor. I agree with those who see Meryl Street as the best actress alive today, and Elizabeth Taylor has a remarkable body of work too. All of her films mentioned here were exceptional, but there are many others among my personal favorites, beginning with LASSIE, COME HOME, and NATIONAL VELVET. And a couple not mentioned but still great performances IMHO.: BUTTERFIELD 8, for which she got the Oscar, and THE VIP’s with a great cast including Richard Burton, Orson Welles, Margaret Rutherford, Louis Jourdan and the wonderful Maggie Smith whose amazing performance I can never forget. And I even liked THE SANDPIPER just to see her working once again with Burton. (Okay so some will criticize these choices as Chick Flicks, but then I am — or used to be — a chick.)
As for Meryl Streep, whom I have been fortunate enough to work with, and I am amazed at her every performance. I never saw an actress with Streep’s gifts, including her ability to speak convincingly in foreign accents. I don’t know of an actress alive today who can match her.
Try Jennifer Jason Leigh. Less prolific but more intense than Streep who has gone a little too sitcomish for my taste of late.
I rather watch Leigh’s father in a film role than his daughter.
Yeah, you’re mariepalestina, about Streep. I can’t think of a match for Streep either.
My 83 year old mother and I were talking about who of that Elizabeth Taylor era would be a match to Streep. She mentioned Shelly Winters, JoAnne Woodward, of course Katherine Hepburn (older)
Vanessa Redgrave great actress as well as coming out on the Palestinian justice issue decades ago
Yes, Jennifer Jason Leigh is good. I think sometimes Nicole Kidman gives remarkable performances. And there are others who consistently do the same. But I still say for her body of work there isn’t any American actress who can touch Meryl Streep. As for her being sitcommy, the fact she can play tragic roles, dramatic roles, comedy, romance, song and dance, and yes, even sometimes sitcom, only shows her amazing versatility. Recalling her work in DEERHUNTER and SOPHIE’S CHOICE, it’s astonishing to see her singing, dancing, and looking amazingly young and beautiful in MAMA MIA. I admire Street for her willingness to take on lightweight roles. She shows she doesn’t take herself as seriously as many actors who will never be in her league but who go on talk shows explaining (when they aren’t working) that they read hundreds of scripts but choose only those worthy of their unique talents. Hey, just my opinion. We all have our favorites, and she’s mine. Streep is one of the few actors whose movies I see just because she’s in them. Anthony Hopkins is another. I used to feel the same about Sissy Spacek but we don’t see her much these days.
I don’t think Meryl would want you to mention Mama Mia.
I tend to agree with you, Taxi. I may have been projecting, but…
That is her only failure in my book
I agree Sissy Spacek; just a darn good actress; and yes, Kidman is often very good too. Bullock has moments too but her face is not as nuanced etherally, it seems to me…
Spacek, Kidman, Jessica Lange held a candle.
If Angelina Jolie were homely she would have been thrown off the stage long ago. The beauty thing along with so so acting can make some big cchhing