From Wikipedia, 2022:
"The Refugees of Zone A" refers to a group of about 500,000 refugees who left their homes in New York City during the legendary hurricane of 2011. Their homes were occupied by people fleeing Virginia and North Carolina, generally referred to as "Virginians," who claimed the refugees' homes as their own, and who renamed lower Manhattan "Manassas" to reflect their own historical connection to it.
The dispute has resulted in several armed conflicts that have undermined the political stability of the eastern United States.
History:
In August 2011, Hurricane Irene bore down on the Atlantic coast and then-mayor Mike Bloomberg ordered the evacuation of several hundred thousand New Yorkers living in low-lying areas, which he designated Zone A. It is believed that 500,000 left their homes, though the number is disputed, with some estimates approaching 750,000. The refugees generally went to other parts of the city or New York state or to neighboring states, Pennsylvania, New Jersey and Connecticut.
The refugees' Central Committee insists that the refugees were ordered by law to leave-- a claim disputed by the Virginians. The refugees concede that many carried their most precious possessions with them when they left but argue that they intended to return to their homes.
Many carry the keys to their homes to this day, or wear them around their necks as a symbol of their dispossession.
While the hurricane caused massive flooding and property damage in New York, it did its greatest damage in the Carolinas and Virginia, killing scores and leaving millions without homes. During the civil unrest that followed, about 100,000 of these southerners moved north to New York and occupied the homes left by the refugees.
The takeover was easily-effected (See War of 2012). The Virginians had superior firepower owing to a culture that prized the Second Amendment, and they gained widespread political support from the burgeoning Tea Party movement and President-elect Eric Cantor of Virginia. And in many cases, they were able to convince New York judges that they had ancestors who had lived in New York.
The Refugees of Zone A have won numerous court decisions acknowledging their right to return to their homes, but none of these rulings has been enforced, given the refugees' lack of political strength. They are often scorned in the east coast media for refusing to get over their grievances and instead allowing them to fester, and for resorting to violence to try and regain their homes.
For their part, the Virginians have been able to point to numerous improvements they have made to Manassas/Lower Manhattan. Their advocates from Congress to Harvard Law School have argued that the refugees of Zone A ought to be absorbed by the communities that they fled to...
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Its the story of Hurricane Katrina, rehashed
Phil,
Is this the best thing you’ve ever written on this site? Maybe. It’s hard to argue with the right of return when you put it that way.
phil, if you have to evacuate tomorrow take a good look around. you may not be allowed to return, ever. the virginians will be zionizing your neighborhood.
Phil, can you cover this story? It’s about the Lobby in the UK.
link to jewssansfrontieres.blogspot.com
The Board of Deputies of British Jews got the British Minister, Alan Duncan, to retract his statements about the apartheid wall.
In a video he says:
Which is true of course. It’s true that the wall can prevent suicide bombing, but it is also annexing Palestinian land and appropriating the water within that territory.
The dishonest of Zionists is on full-display. They exploit the terrorism angle, while openly stealing land. It’s as cynical as a ‘Museum of Tolerance’ built on a Muslim cemetery.
It would appear the refugees are saying, “you know, we can all live together” but the Virgilians claim only those of the Virgilian faith have a right to Manhattan. They have brought millions from all over the other states to strengthen their position. The indigenous Manhattese are doomed.
Virgilians being mentioned, we could recall Virgil’s character who says ‘These things are mine: the old-time tillers of the land can just move out’. You only have to savour these words to appreciate the immense suffering that they imply.
Let’s see what we are missing in the story.
1) Did the Virginians and other southerners start buying land in NY 60 years before the hurricane?
2) Did the government of NY acknowledge that NY was the homeland of the southerners?
3) Did the Southerners for 2000 years mention NY in their daily prayers? Did the southerners each year in their major holder proclaim “next year in NY” and did this for hundreds of years before the hurricane?
4) Did the northerners for decades reject the purchase of land and immigration of the southerners?
And I could go on. In short, a very very weak analogy.
1) sure they did, about 6 percent of it. but all the hot real estate was already taken.
2) huh? as opposed to it being the homeland of new yorkers?
3) daily prayers won’t get me my neighbors house next door, but a gun might if there were no law to stop it
4) they didn’t want to sell their land, so you stole it and are still stealing it
The hot real estate was owned by the Sultan of Quebec and then when the Quebecois empire passed away was transferred to the King of England by some league of nations. Isn’t that what you mean?
Not ONE single dunam of land was taken by force before the partition resolution of 29 November 1947 and the beginning of the civil war in Palestine. Not ONE. The analogy is completely bogus. The war and refugees were the result of the rejection of partition. The partition itself did not take ONE dunam from any Arab and give it to a Jew. ALL Arab property was left intact. The only change would have been the country in which the property would be in.
The war and refugees were the result of the rejection of partition.
nope.
there’s an interesting discussion going on here. if you scroll you’ll notice it is still active even tho the thread itself started on august 7th. your team is loosing (desperately). jonas was around yesterday. something about ‘proving’ israel was invaded..in jerusalem! he even tries linking to a map of the partition to prove jerusalem was in israel! i think he forgot to look at the map himself.
you guys keep pushing these silly myths around. not a one of you is any match for shingo and hostage in that conversation no matter how hard you try. it’s hard to be a winner when the truth is staring you in the face and you’re pushing lies and myths.
Not ONE single dunam of land was taken by force before the partition resolution of 29 November 1947
that’s like saying the not ONE virginian stole any homes in new york before the legendary hurricane of 2011.
lol, so what? still doesn’t justify the theft.
It proves that the refugees were a result of the civil war despite all your false allegations. I have linked many times to evidence that shows that the tit for tat violence that escalated into the civil war was started by Palestinians.
Here it is again:
link to en.wikipedia.org
lol wikipedia? lol. that’s the joke of the century.
Do you or do you not accept that the first act of the civil war was started by Palestinians? It is so simple. The historical evidence is clear. If not, what is your evidence? Not ONE source denies that the violence because of the Palestinian rejection of the UN partition started the civil war.
What sources do you bother to cite, eeee? Every source cited on MW shows that the nascent Israel founders wanted an ethnically cleansed land and planned and acted to bring that about! So you got left with 20% Palestinian population within the 48 armistice lines. And stole tens of thousands of dunums of Palestinian owned land.
possibly true but doesn’t make the point you are trying to. you can in fact illagally and illegimately aquire property with out the use of force. secondly you state the rejectain of the partitian as a bad thing as if as if the palestinians had an obligation to give up 55% of their land to your terrorist ancestors. the analogy is sound your understanding of it is bogus.
first of no it doesn’t. I have read the wikipedia page multiple times and clearly states that the escalation was a result of jewish action. secondly the fact that they were regugees of a civil war rather than a forgiegn invasion( which despite your lies it was a foriegn invasion) still doesn’t mean it was legal to shoot them when they tried to come back and steal their homes. your argument amounts to you said bob killed sally because sally tried to play with the blue ball bob killing sally is wrong but sally was trying to play with red ball so its ok for bob to kill her
why would anyone its a lie.
true and its on the palestinians side. the jews started the civil war. that why they stockpiles weapons not the palestinians.
almost every source except rabidly pro Israel denies that. most put the blame on both sides for not negiotation. and some( in my opinion the best and most correct) put it on the zionists for when the palestinians wouldn’t peacefully give up their land decided war was the way to go. no honest and informed person can lay the blame on the palestinians.
no honest and informed person can lay the blame on the palestinians.
obviously
If your and your neighbour’s families for many generations have prayed for a good life in this house you both like, should the prayers of one group be given greater respect in human terms than those of others?
Even if the Virginians refuse to vacate that good old brownstone property and keep waving guns at passers-by would they have an argument, even the beginnings of an argument, for adding insult to injury, or further injury to the first injury, by insisting that the Old New Yorkers should be removed from the electoral register?
I agree, MHughes, I agree…
Its an interesting commentary on history if written in 2072, not so relevant in 2011 or even 2022.
EEE is right about the misrepresentative incompleteness of the myth.
In the present, a few hundred Palestinians are displaced annually. It’s never ending, a one-way heart valve, and should be stopped by non-violent means alone.
a few hundred? care to back that up?
and that’s just east jerusalem.
honestly richard could you be this blind.
witty every part of international law recognizes that when you have exhuasted peaceful means to secure your rights you have the right to use violence to gain them. and not the fake rights you defend for the Israelis.
LOOKOUT EVERYBODY! Phil is channeling Kafka again.