Campaign to end military aid to Israel enters NY, underground

Report on the "Be on Our Side" campaign on the local New York CBS news.

The Jerusalem Post is covering the 25 ads in the New York subway system from the "Be On Our Side" campaign, against military funding to Israel. Reporter Jordana Horn:

The 25 posters in 18 Brooklyn, Manhattan, Queens and Bronx subway stations are part of a mass transit advertising campaign by Be On Our Side to remedy what the advertisements call “the flawed and skewed representation in mainstream media” of Israeli-Palestinian relations.

This is the seventh city in which these ads have been displayed. The posters have been approved by the city’s Metropolitan Transit Authority, and will be displayed for one month.

“Be on our side. We are on the side of peace and justice. End US military aid to Israel,” the advertisements state...

And like clockwork right-wing Israel supporters have gone apoplectic over the ads. Dov Hikund is featured in the news bit above. Here's what Pamela Geller has to say:

Atlas readers are well aware of the antisemitic ad campaign bouncing from city to city. We successfully fought back against racism and judeophobia in Seattle. But the anti-Israel ads have run in San Francisco and DC, while our pro-Israel ads have been rejected.

The Jew-hating ads are scheduled to run later on this month on at least 1,000 subway cars (minimum buy $20,000 - $36,000); who is funding the racist haters? . . .

I have submitted our pro-Israel ad. I am waiting for ad approval as we speak. Please contribute to Atlas to fund these ads. . . If they refuse my ad, we will sue. Immediately.

And here's the ad Geller wants to get placed:

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It's no surprise Caroline Glick is behind her 100%.

The Gothamist has now picked up the story:

Hikind, who you'll recall was equally outraged when the MTA permitted anti-Islam ads hates pedestrian islands,tells CBS 2, "This is a one-sided mean-spirited attempt to undermine the security and well being of the people of Israel. They say this is for peace. This is not for peace. This is for war." In case you're unclear on how exactly cutting military spending is mean and pro-war, CBS 2 turned to commuters for insightful analysis. "It says be on our side, so it’s like who’s side are we on?” wonders New Yorker Kayla Sanders.

The campaign, which has already run in six major U.S. cities, features ads in 18 subway stations through October 3rd. A mean-spirited spokesperson for one of the groups sponsoring the campaign dangerously explains, "Instead of funding Israel’s unlawful occupation, I would like to see the thirty billion dollars that our government has committed to the State of Israel over the next ten years be redirected to Americans right here at home to help with job creation, increased funding for education, affordable housing investment, environmental conservation, and upgrading our national transportation infrastructure."

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  1. seafoid says:

    This is just the start. Once the fear fades people are going to walk all over Israeli hasbara.

    • MRW says:

      seafoid,

      You’re right. I’m already hearing it. I’m perceiving it as a consequence of the revulsion within the Christian churches for constant war, as advocated by Hagee and his ilk. A lot of people are turning back to their churches in this economic mess for solace and food. “Christ-followers” don’t like war; moreover, they don’t see why anyone should be paying or praying for it. This is a disintegration from within. $30 billion spent here at home could ease a lot of pain.

    • Oscar says:

      Hey, just wanted to let everyone know that Amazon.com is providing a one-day special price of 99 cents on a digital download of Julian Schnabel’s “Miral.” Here’s the link: link to amazon.com

    • James says:

      seafiod – that is a positive thought! the idea of constant funding for wars in faraway lands doesn’t make much sense when the people at home are not being looked after, not to mention the fact more people need to be opposed to the killing of innocent people as a result of the usa military machine..

      i can’t believe how ignorant this pamela geller is spewing out a bunch of lies… i look forward to the time people ignore her intolerance and ignorance..

      • Sumud says:

        i can’t believe how ignorant this pamela geller is spewing out a bunch of lies… i look forward to the time people ignore her intolerance and ignorance..

        That time is here James! Nobody of repute takes her seriously, and they never have. She had her 15 minutes of fame during her campaign against the Cordoba Centre last year, and her links to Norwegian far-right militants probably associated with Breivik sunk her ship altogether.

        She’s a spent force.

        Enjoy this great take-down of the shrew by Lauren Lyster of RT last year:

        CAIR Video: TV Host Exposes Pamela Geller’s Anti-Muslim Bigotry

      • seafoid says:

        James

        This was in the FT

        “The operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as additional defence spending, account for 15 per cent of the gap between where in 2001 the Congressional Budget Office projected the US federal debt would be this year ($2,300bn in the black) and where it is ($10,200bn in the red), according to Pew analysis”

        That’s almost 2 TRILLION dollars. And that’s a conservative estimate

        AIPAC , the neocons and the Bush tax cuts have bankrupted America and main street pays .

  2. Kathleen says:

    The time for a two state solution is slipping away.

    Mearsheimer could end up being right
    link to mondoweiss.net
    “Where is this all headed?.. You’re going to end up with a greater Israel.

    You already have a greater Israel. It’s going to be one state. The Palestinians are going to have a handful of enclaves inside that state, one of which is the Gaza Strip, and there will be three or four in the West Bank. This will be an apartheid state… That’s where it’s headed. But it’s Israel in the driver’s seat. And the United States is merely Israel’s lawyer…

    “How [can] the international community… facilitate the two state solution? I think that question is largely irrelevant. There’s not going to be a two-state solution. There’s going to be a greater Israel, and the Palestinians are going to live in a greater Israel. The reason that the international community is of enormous importance to the Palestinians is because the big fight that lies ahead is going to involve democracy inside of that greater Israel. What the Israelis are going to try to do is keep the Palestinians boxed up in Bantustans… The South African model, that’s correct.”

    • seafoid says:

      Kathleen

      Mearsheimer wrote that Magnum opus around 2007 when Greenspan could still deliver the great moderation and the stock market was high and everything was on cruise control.

      He didn’t foresee a situation where the US congress would be 12 hours away from defaulting on its debts.

      Or America’s son of a b*tch in Egypt would be deposed.

      As Niall Ferguson wrote a while ago in the LA Times :

      “Great powers are complex systems, made up of a very large number of interacting components that are asymmetrically organized, which means their construction more resembles a termite hill than an Egyptian pyramid. They operate somewhere between order and disorder. Such systems can appear to operate quite stably for some time; they seem to be in equilibrium but are, in fact, constantly adapting. But there comes a moment when complex systems “go critical.” A very small trigger can set off a “phase transition” from a benign equilibrium to a crisis — a single grain of sand causes a whole pile to collapse.”

      There is also JK Galbraith

      The conventional wisdom” gives way not so much to new ideas as to “the massive onslaught of circumstances with which it cannot contend”.

      • Kathleen says:

        Marwan Bishara interviewed Mearsheimer a year ago. Mearsheimer repeated his thoughts at the Move over Aipac conference just recently.

        We are only going to witness an ever expanding “Greater Israel” according to Mearsheimer. The apartheid state of Israel becoming ever more apparent

        • Dex says:

          Kathleen,

          Israel already controls everything relevant from the Jordan River to the Med. Sea; there already IS one apartheid state.

          Once the debacle of the UN vote ends, the final nail of the two-state farce ends, and the struggle for one-person, one-vote begins.

          It’s the only (just) solution.

          Here is a very interesting article by Joseph Massad of Columbia University on the upcoming UN vote. It’s worth the read…

          link to english.aljazeera.net

      • Paul Norheim says:

        Niall Ferguson also wrote this:

        “Though holy to all three monotheistic religions, Jerusalem today sometimes seems like the modern equivalent of Vienna in 1683 – a fortified city on the frontier of Western civilization. Founded in May 1948 as a Jewish state, by Jews but not exclusively for Jews, the State of Israel regards itself as a external outpost. But it is a beleaguered one. Israel, which claims Jerusalem as its capital, is menaced on all sides by Muslim forces that threaten its very existence. (…) Even traditionally friendly Turkey is now clearly moving in the direction of Islamism and anti-Zionism, not to mention a neo-Ottoman foreign policy. As a result, many people in Israel feel as threatened as the Viennese did in 1683. The key question is how far science can continue to be the killer application that gives a Western society like Israel an advantage over its enemies.” (p. 93 in “Civilization – The West And The Rest” – 2011)

        And he wrote a favorable review of Bat Ye’Or’s Eurabia-book in 2005.
        He’s on the same side as Pam Geller – the respectable face of Islamophobia.

        • Shingo says:

          And he wrote a favorable review of Bat Ye’Or’s Eurabia-book in 2005.
          He’s on the same side as Pam Geller – the respectable face of Islamophobia.

          Of course he is. An otherwise very intelligent man who probes that intellect is no defense against bigotry.

          I attended a speech he gave last year to a conservative (aka right leaning) think tank, and he was fascinating.

          After all, he has long prwsicted the collapse of the US empire

          Nevertheless, it’s obvious that he wouldn’t be in a relationship with Ayaan Hirsi if they didn’t hold similar views about Islam.

  3. rob says:

    They’ve really jumped on this, everyone one from Pamela Geller to Assemblman ex-JDL terrorist leader, Dov Hikund. I’m gonna check the ad in my subway station to see how long it lasts, I don’t expect too long, I’m glad I was able to see it and take a picture before…..
    Actually this may be good; similar to the Freedom Flotilla, even though that didn’t sail, look at all the press it got!

    link to atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com

    link to newyork.cbslocal.com

    • Kathleen says:

      “I’m glad I was able to see it and take a picture before…..”

      Be ready to take pictures of those who try to destroy those ads.

    • Kathleen says:

      So here is what Geller and team are doing (from Robs link.)
      “An anti-Israel group, http://www.twopeoplesonefuture.org, has just placed the attached ad calling for the end of aid to Israel in 18 subways stations in NYC. They claim to target Israel only because “Israel is the strong party, Israel is the Occupying Power and Israel is the only party that can actually end the Occupation and pave the way for a just peace.” IT IS NOT ABOUT PEACE. IT IS ANOTHER THINLY VEILED ATTACK ON ISRAEL. For example, certain of the sponsors of this ad campaign actively support Israel boycotts and general Arab solidarity. This is not about promoting peace; it is about attacking Israel.

      How can you help?

      1. The ad placement is handled by CBS Outdoor. Please send an email toemmanuela.chanoine@cbsoutdoor.com to register your concern about this ad campaign.

      2. Email the Mayor. link to nyc.gov

      3. Call the MTA at 212-878-7000 and, in response to the prompts, press 1, 3, * and then either 2 for the press office and/or 4 for corporate affairs. Leave a message. You can also email them at link to mta-nyc.custhelp.com

      4. GET THE WORD OUT. Forward this email to your friends and family. If we do not act to protect Israel, no one will.
      For your ease, a draft email is below:

      I have just learned of the anti-Israel ad campaign that has been launched in 18 NYC subway stations by twopeoplesonefuture.org. I am contacting you to express my strong disapproval with this ad campaign. The campaign is supported by the anti-Israel lobby, whose agenda is not peace but the destruction of the State of Israel. Second, it unfairly penalizes Israel for defending itself. New York City should not allow these types of ads to be run in our Transit System”

      • john h says:

        >> “How can you help?” <<

        Three email addresses are listed.

        Simply forward the draft email outlined, but adapt it to tell the truth and of your strong approval.

        Yes, act to GET THE WORD OUT!

    • Rob, which platform was that? Any idea what Brooklyn platforms are hosting the ads?

  4. iamuglow says:

    This feels momentous.

    CBS news has a bit on TV about it last night. Dov Hikind was interviewed all he could say was that it was a ‘dangerous, dangerous, dangerous’ poster.

    Its a perfect populist message to connect Americans with I/P. End aid to Israel. How can anyone argue against that? While the US government is slashing social programs here at home were sending money overseas to Israelis? You can’t find me an American, without dual nationality, who is going to be okay with that.

  5. Avi says:

    This is going to get a lot of ‘traffic’.

  6. Kathleen says:

    “this campaign adhered to the guidelines” Oh yeah

  7. I just noticed something. The NY CBS news clip about the campaign is entitled “MTA Billboard Has Area Jews Seeing Red.” (Look at the top of the video player.) But there’s no mention of Jews or Jewishness in the entire report. It’s just “city strap-hangers doing a double-take.”

    But I guess this is understandable. Because it’s antisemitic to say the word “Jews”. :)

  8. chet says:

    “judeophobia” – adding to the “anti-semitism” lexicon or a new concept?

    • Ellen says:

      anti-semitism is a pretend concept as most Jews of the world are not Semites. It is really a non-word.

      Judeophobia or anti-Jewish is the honest expression for those who suffer Judenphobia, which leads to anti Jewish “feelings.”

      No different than homophobia, female phobia, catholic phobias, brown people phobias, while people phobias, goyim phobias…..whatever….

  9. Kathleen says:

    “We have specific guidelines for advertising. It cannot promote anything illegal, or obscene or imply the MTA’s endorsement. This campaign adhered to the guidelines”

    Was looking for the MTA’s Guidelines for advertising
    link to mta.info
    link to mta.info

  10. eljay says:

    Geller’s ad is very classy. It really…what’s the word…oh, yes, that’s it: It really “humanizes ‘the Other’”.

    >> … Antisemitic Ads … antisemitic ad campaign … racism and judeophobia … Jew-hating ads … racist haters …

    Lots of anger and intolerance here. It’s amazing that talking about peace can bring out such violence and hatred in people.

    • Pamela Olson says:

      After I read Geller’s website, I had to take some deep breaths and listen to some music just to get the bad feeling of stupid-mad-hate off me. Imagine living with that day after day. It would totally fry your brain and shrivel you into — I don’t even want to think about it. Why live like that? It’s such a nice world.

      • hophmi says:

        I hate Geller too. The question, Pamela, is how you can read Geller’s website and not see how some of the same tactics and rhetoric can be found here. You should condemn hateful rhetoric amongst your own as strongly as you do that of your political opponents.

        • Pamela Olson says:

          Can you give me some examples of rhetoric on this site that are even close to as vitriolic, not to say insane, as Geller’s?

        • Chaos4700 says:

          #4) Everybody sucks. Like clockwork.

        • Sumud says:

          The question, Pamela, is how you can read Geller’s website and not see how some of the same tactics and rhetoric can be found here.

          Bring it hophmi.

          Give us some links.

        • Kathleen says:

          We are waiting Hophmi. Links proof to back up your inflammatory claim.

        • Cliff says:

          He’s a coward. We has yet to back up his slander that ‘Palestinians supported hitler’.

        • DBG says:

          link to shalomjerusalem.com

          link to eretzyisroel.org

          The Arabs didn’t know of the Holocaust, they were doing what made sense to them at the time. The British at the time controlled Palestine, why wouldn’t they support the Axis?

          Again you guys try to deny parts of history which you don’t like, I’ve embraced the gruesome nature of the Nakba, it is your turn to support the Mufti’s support of Hitler.

        • Woody Tanaka says:

          DBG,

          Really?? You’re linking to a site in the which the URL contains the term “Mohammedism,” twice?? Is this really the kind of people you support?

          Hophmi pretty much outed himself as anti-Arab bigot the other day. Is this you outing yourself as an anti-Muslim bigot??

          And the fact that the Mufti supported Hitler means that the Mufti’s actions and attitudes were worthy of condemnation. To paint that as somehow impacting all Palestinaians or all Muslims, either then or now, is an act of sheer bigotry, no different than a man falsely blaming a Jewish person for cheating him out of some money on the grounds that Bernie Madoff is Jewish.

        • Sumud says:

          Again you guys try to deny parts of history which you don’t like, I’ve embraced the gruesome nature of the Nakba, it is your turn to support the Mufti’s support of Hitler.

          Whereas the Nakba is an ongoing crime perpetrated by, and for the benefit of all of Israel, the Mufti of Jerusalem was a marginal figure by the time of the UN Declaration in 1947.

          In the clip I posted above of Pamela Geller on RT, she claims the mufti was the leader of the muslim (or arab, I can’t remember) world, but his army never amounted to more than 3,000 Palestinians in 1948. That’s 3,000 out of around 1,000,000, or 0.3% of Palestinians.

          As I said, a marginal figure, at best. That figure BTW came from Israeli historian Simha Flapan’s 1987 book “The Birth of Israel”. Check it out DBG.

        • Cliff says:

          Again you guys try to deny parts of history which you don’t like, I’ve embraced the gruesome nature of the Nakba, it is your turn to support the Mufti’s support of Hitler.

          Look, idiot, the claim was made that ‘Palestinians supported Hitler.’

          The only interpretation of such a disgusting statement was that this support was widespread or that Palestinians ‘elected’ a leader at that time precisely because of his Nazi sympathizing credentials.

          No one denies that the Mufti existed. He is one person. He does not represent Palestinians in any sense, at any time in all of their history.

          And Hostage has already went through the documentary record to refute the contention that the Mufti was popular.

          Your sources are garbage laden with terms like ‘Mohammedism’ and you don’t even know what you’re saying.

          There were Americans who supported the Nazis too. There were Brits, Irish, etc. However, no one ever says “American support for Hitler” meaning in spite of the Holocaust, in spite of the other horrors and immorality AND that said support represented the American zeitgeist at that time. No one says that.

          That is what hophmi said and YOU should stop being a lazy, shallow troll and go look up his original quote on your own instead of reflexively defending someone simply because he’s also a Zionist.

          Hostage’s original comments on the Mufti:

          link to mondoweiss.net

          So, far you have been getting incompletes. You have never provided any evidence that the Palestinian people rejected the principle of partition, much less that they supported or were represented by the Arab League and the Mufti.

          *By 1930, many Palestinian nationalists viewed the Mufti and the Supreme Muslim Cuncil as a group who had misused their religion for partisan political purposes; who had brought no benefit to the country; and whose policies would only lead to expulsion and destruction of the country, e.g. Mohammad Tawil and Sheikh As’ad al Shuqayri of Acre, the father of PLO founder and chairman Ahmad Shuqayri, wrote articles in support of cooperation with the Zionist Organization. He was widely known for his opposition to the nationalist movement and involvement in land sales. He did not see the Jerusalem Mufti as a serious religious figure. In mid-1935 the Mayor of Jerusalem, Dr. Mustafa al Khalidi, told his deputy Daniel Oster “We must recognize facts. The Jews have entered the country, become citizens, have become Palestinians, and they cannot be thrown into the sea. Likewise, they have bought land and received deeds in exchange for money and we must recognize them. There is no point in closing our eyes about such clear things.” See Hillel Cohen, “Army of Shadows: Palestinian Collaboration with Zionism, 1917-1948″, University of California Press, 2008, pages 84-85.

          *In 1937 the US Consul General at Jerusalem told the State Department that the Mufti refused the principle of partition and declined to consider it. He said the Emir Abdullah of Transjordan urged acceptance on the ground that realities must be faced. The Consul also noted that Nashashibi was willing to negotiate for favorable modifications.

          *In “Pan-Arabism Before Nasser”, Michael Doran reported that Eliyahu Sasson made at least two trips in late 1946 to lobby Egyptian officials regarding the partition of Palestine. Sasson reported that he had been warmly welcomed by the Prime Minister, the Foreign Minister, and the Secretary General of the Arab League. Doran says that King Faruq and other palace advisers received reports on the talks and did nothing to scuttle them.

          *Joseph Heller, “The birth of Israel, 1945-1949: Ben-Gurion and his critics”, University Press of Florida, 2000, says that in the Spring of 1946 Sasson was dispatched to Egypt and that he reported that, with the exception of Saudi Arabia, there was a virtually unanimous consensus on partition among the members of the Arab League.

          *Morris, Shlaim, Rogan, Flapan, and others report that Abdullah and the Jewish Agency negotiated an agreement to peacefully partition Palestine in November of 1947.

          *The UN Yearbook for 1946-47 says that during the deliberations on Palestine many members of the United Nations questioned the status of the Arab Higher Committee (AHC) and the Jewish Agency. They expressed the view that only States should be heard in the General Assembly as the Charter had not provided for hearing “non-governmental organizations” (NGOs) there. The Jewish Agency had a special status under the terms of the mandate, but the AHC did not. According to the Yearbook: “The Egyptian representative explained, in reply to various statements, that the Arab States did not represent the Palestinian Arab population.”

          Ezra Danin worked in various capacities in the Jewish Agency and the Arab department, “Sherut Yediot”, the “Information Service” of the Haganah. In January of 1948, Danin wrote “I believe the majority of the Palestinian masses accept the partition as a fiat accompli and do not believe it possible to overcome or reject it.” See Document 90, page 128 “Political and Diplomatic Documents Central Zionist Archives/Israel State Archives, December 1947- May 1948, Jerusalem, 1979.

          There was a nine year hiatus after the British mandatory authorities outlawed the Arab Higher Committee. It was reestablished by the Arab League, not by the Palestinian people. In February of 1948, the Arab League decided not to recognize the AHC as the representative of the Palestinian people. Thereafter, all of the Leagues’ affairs were handled through its own Palestine Council, not through the Mufti or the AHC. See Issa Khalaf, Politics in Palestine: Arab factionalism and social disintegration, 1939-1948, University of New York Press, 1991, ISBN 0-7914-0708-X, page 290.

          *David Ben-Gurion advised Sharett about the public sentiment of the Palestinians: “They, the decisive majority of them do not want to fight us.” See Ben Gurion to Sharett, March 14, 1948, Document 274, on page 460 of “Political and Diplomatic Documents Central Zionist Archives/Israel State Archives, December 1947- May 1948, Jerusalem, 1979.

          *Before the Deir Yassin massacre, the US Minister in Saudi Arabia told Secretary Marshall that the Saudi’s and Abdullah had warned the other members of the Arab League (in March of 1948) that the partition was a civil matter and that the Arab states shouldn’t take any action that the Security Council might interpret as aggression.

          *In the UNSCOP and General Assembly Ad Hoc Committee on Palestine hearings, the representatives of the Jewish Agency testified that their proposed plan for partition could be peacefully implemented because the majority of Palestinians accepted the inevitability of partition and either supported the plan or would acquiesce to it. On March 19th, 1948 the representative of the Jewish Agency changed his story and told the Security Council that on the question of implementation by peaceful means, that if left alone considerable sections of Palestinian Arabs would be willing to cooperate or acquiesce, but that armed intervention by neighboring States completely changed that situation. See page 9 of 19 in the verbatim minutes of the 271st meeting of the Security Council. link to un.org

          *On March 5 1948, the UN Security Council refused to accept the plan of partition as a basis for Security Council action. After deliberations on a trusteeship proposal it sent the Question of Palestine back to an Emergency Session of the General Assembly for further consideration. On May 14, 1948 the General Assembly suspended implementation of the plan of partition by the Palestine Commission and empowered a Mediator to promote a peaceful adjustment of the future situation of Palestine. See UN General Assembly resolution 186(S2)

          *Bernadotte’s diary said the Mufti had no credibility with Palestinians on account of his unrealistic predictions regarding the defeat of the Jewish militias. Bernadotte said “It would seem as though in existing circumstances most of the Palestinian Arabs would be quite content to be incorporated in Transjordan.” see Folke Bernadotte, “To Jerusalem”, Hodder and Stoughton, 1951, pages 112-13.

          *The rulers of the overwhelming majority of the territory of the former Palestine mandate included the Hashemites, Nashashibis, and other groups who had accepted the principle of partition. Secretary of state Marshall documented Shertok’s discussion of a cable that he received which outlined a modus vivendi agreement between the Haganah and Col. Desmond Goldie, assistant to Brigadier Glubb commander of the Arab Legion to coordinate their operations and avoid clashes.

          *The Jewish Agency and provisional government of Israel talked about acceptance, but when the deadlines came to implement the plan for economic union; the plan for the protection of minorities; and the plan for the Corpus Separatum they always rejected resolution 181(II) in actual practice. Rabbi Hillel Silver only “accepted” the plan of partition on a conditional basis – subject to “further discussions of the constitutional and territorial provisions”. 64 years later we are still listening to Zionist officials shreying about the status of Jerusalem and the impossibility of granting Arabs constitutional equality. The representative of the AHC NGO was in no official position to reject the plan on behalf of the Palestinians, and suggested that the United Nations consult the wishes of the owners of the country. FYI both Hamas and the Israeli government express similar sentiments today. Any final settlement will be subject to national plebiscites. For the remarks of the Jewish Agency and AHC spokesmen see the 1947 FRUS, Near East and Africa, Volume V, page 1165

          *The Mufti did not enjoy much popular support and all his efforts to organize a popular resistance to the Partition Resolution were unsuccessful. According to Ian Bickerton, Carla Klausner, “A Concise History of the Arab-Israeli Conflict”, 4th Edition, Prentice Hall, 2004, few Palestinians joined the Arab Liberation Army and many Palestinians favored partition and indicated a willingness to live alongside a Jewish state (page 88).

          *Ben-Gurion rebuffed the various efforts of more pragmatic Palestinian Arabs to reach a modus vivendi since it was his “belief … that Zionist expansionism would be better served by leaving the leadership of the Palestinians in the hands of the extremist Mufti than in the hands of a ‘moderate’ opposition. ‘Rely on the Mufti’ became his motto.” Blocked by Zionist policy from officially expressing their opposition to war, the Palestinian Arabs arranged “non-aggression” pacts with their Jewish neighbors. The relatively few who did take up arms did so primarily to defend themselves against feared attacks by the Jews. See the review of Simha Flapan’s The Birth of Israel: Myths and Realities

          *During the hearings on Israel’s membership in the UN Abba Eban pointed out that the Arab States could not be logically expected to recognize the State of Israel if the United Nations hesitated to do so itself. He said that the Committee should not delay the decisive moment when the Arab world would recognize Israel as a partner in its destiny and in the progress of Asia. See the verbatim minutes in A/AC.24/SR.45
          5 May 1949

          *On the very same day that the UN officially recognized the state of Israel, all of the Arab states signed the Lausanne protocol and accepted the map from UN resolution 181(II) as the basis for negotiation.

          *A Tale of Two Cities: The Rhodes and Lausanne Conferences, 1949 Neil Caplan Journal of Palestine Studies, Vol. 21, No. 3 (Spring, 1992), pp. 5-34 points out that the first head of the PLO, Ahmad Shuqayri, was a member of the Syrian delegation to the Lausanne Conference. He said the adoption of the protocol proved the Arabs had not suffered from a “no” complex during the period of 1947-49. Three days before the Arabs accepted the protocol Walter Eytan, head of the Israeli delegation, said “it would be a great thing for us if the Arabs, who had never been willing to touch November 29th with a barge pole, agreed to take this as a base de travail.” He had predicted that the Arabs would never agree to sign. Nonetheless, ignoramuses like yourself repeat the myth that the Palestinians rejected the plan.

          *Of course the PLO continued to cite resolution 181(II) as the basis of UN recognition of the right of Palestinians to a state of their own

        • hophmi says:

          Cliff continues to beat a horse so dead its gluestick has been used up. Let’s remember the context in which I said this: it was in the context of a discussion about the consequences of different political movements, and I mentioned that there were consequences to the Palestinian support of Hitler, which I explained back then was the way the West viewed support for Hitler by prominent Palestinian personalities like the Mufti.

          It is amazing that people who have no qualms about talking of Zionist collaboration with the Nazis, as if it was a mainstream project supported by most of the Jewish population in the Yishuv, lose their minds when anyone talks about the Mufti’s relationship with Hitler.

        • Cliff says:

          Let’s remember the context in which I said this: it was in the context of a discussion about the consequences of different political movements, and I mentioned that there were consequences to the Palestinian support of Hitler, which I explained back then was the way the West viewed support for Hitler by prominent Palestinian personalities like the Mufti.

          It is amazing that people who have no qualms about talking of Zionist collaboration with the Nazis, as if it was a mainstream project supported by most of the Jewish population in the Yishuv, lose their minds when anyone talks about the Mufti’s relationship with Hitler.

          Hey look! The coward finally decided to reply to a disgusting comment he made more than 2 weeks ago!

          This is what you said, originally in response to annie:

          you can’t separate the reality from the fantasy. zionism has consequences and you can’t have the ideal divorced from the consequences. that would be incomprehensible to a rational mind.

          So does the Holocaust, Arab anti-semitism, Palestinian support for Hitler, the work of the Yishuv to build a democratic state, the use of suicide bombing by Palestinians, the hijacking of airplanes, 9/11, and US foreign policy. These all have consequences as well.

          Original thread:
          link to mondoweiss.net

          NO where in that thread do you say anything about the Mufti.

          NO where in that thread do you differentiate between one guy who supported Hitler, part of a FRINGE (and BTW, within a VERY SPECIFIC political context) – and ‘the Palestinian people’.

          You explicitly said ‘Palestinian support for Hitler’ – as in plural, as in MORE than insignificant. Obviously YOU, a racist clown, think that this ‘support’ was meaningful even though there is NOTHING to support the assertion.

          You are not only a coward but a liar as well.

          And contrary to your sophist bullshit claptrap about ‘the West’ and it’s ‘perceptions’ – we live in the real world. And in the real world we have a documentary record on this issue. Hostage provided it.

          Prove that the Mufti represented the Palestinian people in any meaningful sense. Did the Palestinians support the Mufti? Did they support his views? Did the ‘vote’ him in? Did they ‘vote’ for anyone? Did the Palestinians even have a voice? And if they did, were ‘they’ listened to?

          Being the idiot that you are, hophmi, you don’t have an answer to any of these questions other than SUPERFICIAL, EMOTIONAL BLACKMAIL. That kind of argumentation DEFINES you on Mondoweiss.

          That and your usual disassembling when Israel does something disgusting.

          The sources provided by Hostage explicitly spell out the disparity between your LIES and the reality. Move on to your next thread-hijacking, you failure.

          Notice how hophmi also threw in “Arab-antisemitism’. GEE, we go from ‘Arab anti-semitism’ to ‘Palestinian support for Hitler’.

          You are a dishonest twerp. End of story.

  11. pabelmont says:

    I jist loooove the pro-Israel ad: “In any war between civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man.”

    ‘Fraid we pro-Palestinians are going to do just that and, while we’re at it, we’ll jist have to show Americans WHO is the savage in this thang.

    • Pamela Olson says:

      That’s what my book (Fast Times in Palestine) tries to do — let Americans know who is who. And a preacher in my small town in Oklahoma recently quoted from my book during his sermon to show that Palestinians are God-fearing folks just like us! A small but hopeful start…

    • Sumud says:

      pablemont ~ this is just more of Geller trying to reach out to American conservatives who find Ayn Rand’s ideas attractive. The line a direct quote from one of Rand’s essays.

      Geller tries to position herself as a Randian Objectivist but this is 100% pure schtick. I read all of Ayn Rand’s books in my 20s and I can tell you Geller knows *nothing* about Rand or Objectivism. Her web site is nothing more than an exercise in marketing, a honey-pot for conservatives designed to push islamophobic pro-Israel messaging.

      For a better understanding of Geller I suggest dipping into her online articles at the settler rag Arutz Sheva:

      Pamela Geller’s Articles

      She’s so out there she even hated Bush for the Annapolis Conference, labelling the US as a ‘ State Sponsor of Judeophobia’. Geller is *extremely* pro-settler, and identifies as such as you’ll read in her articles.

      Back to Rand, at times she made some embarrassingly absurd pronouncements on foreign policy type issues, even going so far as to justify colonialism on the grounds that the colonists had a right to sieze other people’s land on the grounds that they would put it to better use. This is a flat-out contradiction of her own worship of individual property rights, but she seems to have never identified or resolved that issue.

      The only sensible position for someone who identifies with Rand to take, is that the Nakba represents a monumental violation of Palestinian’s property rights both within and outside Israel’s own declared borders. Also, that Israel’s invasion of the Palestinian partition and subsequent multiple attacks by Israel on her neighbours is completely indefensible. This position is supported by Rand’s repeated assertion that violence (personal and state) was ever only justifiable in cases of literal self-defence.

      At this point, the good parts of Rand intersects with thinking conservatives like Ron Paul, who consistently condemn America’s escapades into aggressive war and empire.

      Unfortunately most people who Rand appeals to aren’t inclined to critical thinking, and tend to accept every statement she ever made as gospel, despite the contradictions. Rand herself said that contradictions were an impossibility, and that when one encountered contradictions in life, you needed to check the premise of your thinking and look at the situation again. It’s actually a pretty valuable piece of advice, I think.

  12. Chu says:

    Man vs. Savage?

    Why not just call them brownish apes?
    Pam is running on all psychotic cylinders.
    She is a piece of work, her 5 children must be
    frightened of mommy temper tantrums.

  13. Paul Mutter says:

    I’m surprised the “DEFEAT JIHAD” isn’t bookended with little crescent moons just so it’s clear that Pamela Geller and co. intend to defeat all Muslims to win.

  14. Dan Crowther says:

    I think Gellar just defended the Nazi Holocaust. After all , it “had” to be done to protect Aryans against the “non civilized” savage races, right?

    • lysias says:

      Nazi propaganda may have portrayed Jews as sinister, but I think it portrayed Russians, Poles, and other Slavs as uncivilized enemies of civilized Germans.

      • Ellen says:

        Yes, indeed, it did. Nazi propaganda was really primitive and portrayed anything non Germanic as “the other.” Black Africans were much lower on the ranks of civilized humanity than all.

        Years ago I met an older Polish gentleman who spent the prime of his youth as a young man as a prisoner in a KZ. The prison population of those Kamps were …what we would call today … very multi kulti.

        There were regular Germans (Academics and dangerous people like that), Poles, mix raced Germans, Jewish Germans, members of the clergy, homosexuals, the handicapped and the socially shunned.

        And at the same time the US had concentration camps for Americans of Japanese decent.

  15. Chespirito says:

    Well I hope Geller’s nutty ads do run, they’ll just be dousing the fire with gasoline, bringing more attention to the insanity of our costly and anti-humanitarian support for Israel. Most NYers riding the subway will not greet her ad with anything other than resentment. With unemployment and insecurity running high, do people really want to be told they have an obligation to pony up bigtime for… Israel? There is a limit.
    All of which is to say: great job, Be On Our Side! Such a well-designed ad too; so clear, so appealing, so different from the lugubrious Bread & Puppets aesthetic that never fails to get me depressed.

  16. Kathleen says:

    More Threats “harsh and grave consequences”

    Israel warns of ‘harsh’ consequences of Palestinian UN bid
    Hardline Israeli Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman warned on Wednesday there would be “harsh and grave consequences” if the Palestinians persist with their plan to seek UN membership as a state.

    link to telegraph.co.uk

  17. Kathleen says:

    Nothing over at Huff Po on that front page about Erdogans visits statements about Israel, nothing about the Palestinians US bid. Blog clog.

    • Ellen says:

      Huff Po is deteriorating into clog of S&%* at the bottom of the information chain. It will soon features stories of half gorilla, half human babies born in the far corners of the Ozarks.

  18. Dex says:

    That might be the most tame ad I’ve ever seen. Unreal that it is even controversial (no worries, I know why)….

    But if it was me, I’d have some stronger words in there, like “apartheid” “occupation” “criminal.” But hey, it’s a start and unfortunately many feel they have to walk on eggshells for fear of being called anti-se(ah you know the word)…

  19. MarkF says:

    In the fight to spread welfare abroad and conservatism for Americans, pick Glick…..

  20. seafoid says:

    Support Israel defeat Jihad

    That’s like advertising Justin Timberlake .

    Get with the program, Israel. It’s not 2005 any more
    We have youtube now ! And iphones , duh

  21. Sin Nombre says:

    Pamela Geller wrote:

    “Atlas readers are well aware of the antisemitic ad campaign bouncing from city to city. We successfully fought back against racism and judeophobia in Seattle.”

    “Judeophobia”? Well, okay, what’s the opposite then?

    Perhaps “I prefer to live with jews” President of the Union of Reform Judaism Eric Yoffie can tell us!

    (link to blogs.jpost.com)

    I have no doubt though that with similar-minded jews the feeling is not just innocent, but indeed some incredibly high form of morality.

    • RoHa says:

      ‘“Judeophobia”? Well, okay, what’s the opposite then?’

      I would say “judeophilia”, but it sounds a bit like a peversion to me. (That’s because I’ve got a dirty mind.)

  22. rachelgolem says:

    I am about to divulge a tightly held state secret of the Zionist Empire.

    Israel no longer needs US military aid. It is a legacy of the cold war when Egypt and Syria were heavily armed by the Soviets.

    The reason it still occurs is because it is a sweet heart deal for American weapons manufacturers who the Israelis are obligated to spend the money on.

    I know the prevailing myth that without this aid, Israel will collapse overnight. This myth is spread on computers using Israeli microprocessors by people who unknowningly take Israeli antibiotics when they are sick.

    • libra says:

      I am about to divulge a tightly held state secret of the American weapons industry.

      Our products win battles but lose wars. They are a legacy of the cold war when the US needed to deter massed Soviet armour in Northern Europe.

      The reason we still shift them is because we promoted the idea of “full spectrum dominance” to neoconservatives.

      I know the prevailing myth that American weapons are invincible. This myth is spread by video games and Hollywood movies. The reality can be seen in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan…

      Sorry if we have tempted you down a strategic dead end but the sweetheart deal we engineered with AIPAC was just too sweet. Not to worry though. If you end up having to live in a democratic single-state we’ll gladly refund you in full. What could be fairer than that?

    • Chaos4700 says:

      Rachel can see Jerusalem from her house! Yupyup!

    • Duscany says:

      I’m glad to hear Israel no longer needs our money. This way they won’t fight back so hard against us when we try to have it stopped. I can think of a lot of things we can do with an extra $3 billion a year in this country.

    • Sumud says:

      I know the prevailing myth that without this aid, Israel will collapse overnight.

      Umm, no.

      The prevailing myth – for me at least – is that what Israel really can’t do without is the UN SC veto. As soon as America stops jamming that spanner in the workings of the international justice system, the nation in violation of more SC resolutions than any other nation in the world today will be placed under sanctions until it moderates it’s behaviour and ends the 44 year illegal occupation of the West Bank and Gaza.

  23. Real Jew says:

    I have to say, as truly happy as I am to see these ads, im equally shocked they were allowed to go up. Seriously. I grew up in New York and I can tell you first hand that NY is “ground zero” for the Lobby and the pro Israel camp as a whole. This really speaks volumes about the unprecedented change in American’s attitude toward the conflict.

    With that being said, I wouldn’t start pulling out champagne and hummus just yet. We still have a long long way to go before our politicians start getting the message. AIPAC still has way to much control over our congress and media to see any American policy change towards Israel. Unfortunately, campaign donations is currently the only language our politicians understand.

  24. Parity says:

    Organizers of the Be On Our Side ad have suggested that we go to all the sources listed by Geller for people to call and, instead of saying we are against the ads, say we are FOR the ads–that they are positive, meet the guidelines, and inform people of how their taxes are being spent (that’s my spiel, anyway). I have done that.

    For your convenience, here are the places to contact:

    “1. The ad placement is handled by CBS Outdoor. Please send an email toemmanuela.chanoine@cbsoutdoor.com to register your concern about this ad campaign.

    “2. Email the Mayor. link to nyc.gov

    “3. Call the MTA at 212-878-7000 [now it's 212-878-7132] and, in response to the prompts, press 1, 3, * and then either 2 for the press office and/or 4 for corporate affairs. Leave a message. You can also email them at link to mta-nyc.custhelp.com”

    My note: The MTA now directs people to this telephone number: 212-878-7132, where you can leave a message easily.

    • Kathleen says:

      that is exactly why I posted this earlier today above. I contacted those that Geller suggested her people call with a thank you and support for them honoring their policies and allowing the Two people campaign

      So here is what Geller and team are doing (from Robs link.)
      “An anti-Israel group, http://www.twopeoplesonefuture.org, has just placed the attached ad calling for the end of aid to Israel in 18 subways stations in NYC. They claim to target Israel only because “Israel is the strong party, Israel is the Occupying Power and Israel is the only party that can actually end the Occupation and pave the way for a just peace.” IT IS NOT ABOUT PEACE. IT IS ANOTHER THINLY VEILED ATTACK ON ISRAEL. For example, certain of the sponsors of this ad campaign actively support Israel boycotts and general Arab solidarity. This is not about promoting peace; it is about attacking Israel.

      How can you help?

      1. The ad placement is handled by CBS Outdoor. Please send an email toemmanuela.chanoine@cbsoutdoor.com to register your concern about this ad campaign.

      2. Email the Mayor. link to nyc.gov

      3. Call the MTA at 212-878-7000 and, in response to the prompts, press 1, 3, * and then either 2 for the press office and/or 4 for corporate affairs. Leave a message. You can also email them at link to mta-nyc.custhelp.com

      4. GET THE WORD OUT. Forward this email to your friends and family. If we do not act to protect Israel, no one will.
      For your ease, a draft email is below:

      I have just learned of the anti-Israel ad campaign that has been launched in 18 NYC subway stations by twopeoplesonefuture.org. I am contacting you to express my strong disapproval with this ad campaign. The campaign is supported by the anti-Israel lobby, whose agenda is not peace but the destruction of the State of Israel. Second, it unfairly penalizes Israel for defending itself. New York City should not allow these types of ads to be run in our Transit System”

  25. Chespirito says:

    J Street, predictably, is against these reasonable and rather mild ads. link to jstreet.org

    When it comes to anything beyond rhetoric, J Street is reliably on the side of AIPAC and Pam Geller, supporting dialogue, discussion, and a guaranteed free-gratis supply of US-made cluster bombs and white phosphorus for the IDF.

  26. Parity says:

    I just got this from MTA:
    “This is in response to your recent e-mail to MTA New York City Transit concerning the “Be On Our Side” advertisement in the subway system.

    “We regret if you found some of our advertisements objectionable. We do recognize that some of our customers may find certain advertisements offensive. As a result, in March of 1994, the MTA board enacted advertising guidelines designed to better regulate advertising within the transit system. While some may find certain advertisements offensive, they do not violate the guidelines. Please also be aware that advertising on our buses and in the subway system fall under the jurisdiction of CBS Outdoor (Viacom), a private company contracted by MTA Department of Real Estate. Their number is (212) 297-6400 and they are located at 405 Lexington Avenue, NY 10174. As such, you may contact CBS Outdoor in writing or via phone with regard to your concerns.”

    • Kathleen says:

      I have not received a response. My email in support of them following their guidelines

      “To whom it may concern:

      Thank you for applying your honorable standards and allowing the “Two peoples One Future” ad campaign to advertise on the MTA. People need to get the facts. Without the information being hateful or abusive.”

      Name etc

  27. Kathleen says:

    Democracy Now will listen to your suggestions. Would make for a great story the “Two people one future” advertising campaign. Contact Democracy Now. They do listen
    link to democracynow.org

  28. Kathleen says:

    Phil/All

    Former head of the CIA’s Bin laden unit Micheal Scheuer sticking up for Rep Paul speaking the truth during the last Republican debate

    link to non-intervention.com
    Interventionists ready a media lynching for Ron Paul
    By mike | Published: September 4, 2011

    The past ten days have seen a spate of pieces on Google News damning Congressman Ron Paul for “blaming” America for the 9/11 attacks. This is just the start of what will become a wave of ever-more shrill and lie-filled attacks on Mr. Paul as long as he is seeking the Republican presidential nomination and continues to find growing public support. The attacks on Mr. Paul are and will be the work of the Neoconservatives, the Israel-First fifth column of U.S. citizens, and AIPAC and those it controls in the Congress, media, and academy.

    Mr. Paul, of course, never blamed the United States for the war the Islamists started and are now waging on the United States. What he did say is merely what is true beyond any credible challenge: Our growing number of Islamist enemies are motivated to attack us because of what the U.S. government does in the Muslim world and not because of how Americans live and think here at home. Mr. Paul bravely and clearly delivers this essential message to U.S. voters, and as long as he tells this truth he will receive the venom and slander of the above mentioned people and organizations.

  29. thetumta says:

    I was in Hannaford Grocery in my village which has very prominent signs about “No Politics”. It’s their store, but lately on the bulletin board there is a prominent ad from the local version of the “Oklahoma Christian Taliban” complete with a representative from the Israeli Ministry of Propaganda. I have considered raising a complaint as I don’t have to shop there, but it is convient. Life. you know. Perhaps a better strategy would be to ask to post some of the NYC ads. Can anyone help?
    Hej!

  30. Duscany says:

    If those End-the-Aid-To-Israel signs stay up a month, I’ll put a lighted candle in every window of my house. But before that happens I rather suspect we will see the rudders on the subway cars jammed and the axles cut just like they did with flotilla boats in Greece.

  31. kalithea says:

    Hmmm…here’s something that might convince the government to end military aid to Israel:

    “Many of his clients, Dorot said, hold dual U.S.-Israeli citizenship and had opened their Israeli accounts with Israeli passports and not disclosed their U.S. citizenship — a factor that makes them U.S. taxpayers.
    Dorot said Bank Leumi’s advice that clients close the accounts — and presumably open new accounts elsewhere — could cause problems for the clients because the U.S. Internal Revenue Service does not consider merely closing the account to be enough; the U.S. taxpayer must also report the account to the IRS and pay taxes on it. “The Israeli banks are suggesting a very bad idea,” Dorot said.”

    link to reuters.com

    Imagine what average Americans who are struggling to make ends meet and pay their fair share of taxes will think when they find out that rich dual-citizen Zionist Americans are fleecing the U.S. government on taxes with the help of Israeli banks?

    I think maybe Americans should know that they’re paying taxes while rich dual-citizen Zionists are evading them and then their other country of citizenship benefits from 3 billion a year that struggling Americans must dish out. So these rich American Zionists don’t even contribute to that 3 billion! Uh-oh. They’re in deep doo-doo.

  32. Did you notice how Atlas Mugs (Yushud Givischitt) had posted complete personal information on the person that registered the site (after post after post of the threat these touchy-feely types pose to Israel…and all Jews that count)?

    So if someone goes Breivik again, she *still* won’t accept any responsibility, I’m sure.

  33. POA says:

    Seeing Geller refer to the Palestinians as “savages” kinda pisses me off. She has obviously indirectly plagarized my often used label of “heathens”, with which I describe these backwards and primitive tribal neanderthals. (Otherwise known as “Palestinians”).

    It makes me very angry indeed to attempt to exagerate the depth of hatred and bigotry that garbage such as Geller exudes, only to find my satirical exagerations are in fact no exageration at all.

    DAMN!!! What possible despicable label can I find to describe the oppressed, that can surpass and one-up the heartfelt and rabid drooling of this insane racist sow Geller?

    Perhaps if I lower myself to describe them as “sand niggers”, in attempting to acurately label the depths of Geller’s hatred and bigotry, she will be unable to best the unspeakable racism that such labeling harkens of.

    But, somehow, I doubt it. She will undoubtedly let slip another indication of the sickness that has blackened her heart and her soul that bears no exageration.

    Who, really, is the “savage”?

  34. rob says:

    It looks like there’s a billboard/poster war going on now!
    I don’t know how to embed photo’s, if one can. But I took a picture of a huge billboard on Queens Blvd. and Van Dam St today and did a little research on notproisrael.com who is mentioned in them.
    It appears to be the work of the Emergency Committee for israel.

    You can see just how gigantic these things are in the Commentary Magazine link below.

    link to commentarymagazine.com

    link to ynetnews.com

  35. I think we are approaching a new era of American -muslim relations ,based on understanding what each party wants from the other , and to uncover the so far hidden roots of misunderstanding ,hatred and conflicts .I can affirm that any American citizen who comes as a tourist or a visitor (for any other purpose than combat or espionage ) will feel the warmth and respect towards Americans in the Arab ,or Muslim world .Meanwhile when you navigate through the web and just the read the titles of the articles in the new conservative sites such as – barenaked Islam , Atlas shrugs, Stand up America , the mad jewess , and Jews against Obama- You will soon sniff a rotten scent that goes back to the 1960s in South Africa , or the early 1950s in the USA .With the same cunning procedures of the Zionist media , you’ll read about the Jewish Noble prize winners ,vs the ugly “terrorist” attacks of “Muslims” whether they were Somalian pirates in the Indian Ocean or honor killers slaying a sister or a wife in Pakistan , while they thoroughly ignore the daily agony of more than 6.5 million Palestinians whom their only mistake was that they have been an obstacle in the “Promised land” and they should be removed ,thanks to the sophisticated US weaponry donated by the generous American taxpayers .