Flotilla controversy within Occupy Wall Street shows Palestine continues to be a fault line

At about midnight Palestinian time, all was quiet on the Mediterranean Sea. All reports coming from the Tahrir and Saoirse indicated that the two unidentified (possibly Israeli) ships and planes, which had been trailing the humanitarian vessels an hour before, had receded into the distance, and posed no immediate threat. The international activists aboard the Canadian and Irish vessels announced they were heading off to sleep, as journalist Hassan Ghani, aboard the Canadian Tahrir, tweeted that “I remember these feelings a year ago onboard the Mavi Marmara; the tension but also the hope of reaching Gaza the next morning”. Folks eyeing the Twitter-sphere found themselves “praying that this is not the calm before the storm”, and encouraging the 27 crew members to “stay steady in your tracks and strong in your minds”.

In the midst of this calm, the Occupy Wall Street (OWS) movement posted a surprising and exhilarating tweet:

“We support and would like to express #solidarity to #FreedomWaves  #Palestine #ows”. 

Moments later, the Twitter representative of the Canada Boat to Gaza posted an appreciative response, “We are thrilled to receive the support of  #OccupyWallStreet  Looks like only the 1% support the Israeli blockade of Gaza.” The Twitter-sphere flared up with expressions of praise and affirmation, proving that the 99% naturally link the struggle for the Occupation of Wall Street with the struggle against the Occupation of Palestine as two facets of a single universal liberation struggle.

Approximately four hours later, however, Occupy Wall Street’s tweet mysteriously disappeared from its home page on Twitter. The Twitter-sphere was instantly taken aback- “didn’t realize #OWS is non-political!!” remarked one tweeter, while another insisted that “If #OWS can not support #FreedomWaves and #Gaza then they should not compare themselves to #ArabSpring or #Tahrir.” The Canada Boat to Gaza, who earlier had nodded in satisfaction, now, shook its head in disappointment, offering, in the face of Occupy Wall Street’s fear of involving itself in the Israel-Palestine conflict, a few words by Desmond Tutu: “If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor.”

Many tweeps asked “Why did @OccupyWallSt delete a tweet showing solidarity with #FreedomWaves?” or “@OccupyWallSt Did you seriously delete the tweet supporting #FreedomWaves WHY?” The closest official answer came from Daniel Sieradski, a new media activist who has been central to the OccupyJudaism activities. Sieradski explained, the “#FreedomWaves tweet was unauthorized, did not have reflect #OWS community consensus and was subsequently deleted.” He added, “#OWS does not have a position on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict,” and “#OWS is a consensus based movement. The GA has never discussed the I/P issue & even if it did, it would never reach consensus.” Sieradski acknowledged he was not speaking as a spokesperson from Occupy Wall Street but he had “heard what happened from people close to it.” I was not able to receive an official explanation from the Occupy Wall Street movement about why tweet being deleted.

As the controversy blazed across Twitter, it opened a space for the 99% to express the obvious connections between the Israeli occupation of Palestine and the global dominance of the 1%- “#OWS is inseparable from #Palestine. 1% funding Israeli settlements and extremist settlers? Priceless.”; “#OWS is inseparable from#Gaza. The 1% diverts resources from the 99% by Israel’s blockading and shelling 100% of Gaza”;  “The Tear Gas used in #Oakland is the same tear gas used in#Palestine, when protesters demonstrate non violently”, to cite a few among the myriad examples. Not everyone on twitter was upset however. The tweeter ‘Fatima600’, who had been using this racist name to fire verbal attacks at the flotilla throughout the night, responded, “They are tired of having their movement hijacked!!!!! I love you #OWS!!!!”

Hours later, @OccupyFortWorth expressed its support for Freedom Waves for Gaza- “Our support for #Gaza and #Freedomwaves is limitless. It emanates and echoes from the deepest purest regions of our heart. Love. Solidarity”, asserting, in contrast to #OccupyWallSt’s hesitancy, that “we don’t mind losing followers who are uncritical or unwilling to engage the issues (Or who are reflexively pro-Zionist.)”.

Ben Lorber is an American activist with the International Solidarity Movement in the West Bank and a journalist with the Alternative Information Center in Bethlehem. Visit his blog at freepaly.wordpress.com.

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Ben Lorber is a Jewish community organizer and activist living in Chicago, Illinois.
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  1. Scott says:

    Fascinating, highly informative, post!

    • Philip Weiss says:

      i agree, great post. thanks ben
      this is why i believe that OWS like the tent protests in ISrael must be embraced– here they are fashioning an important critique of neoliberalism– but on the most important human rights/foreign policy issue of American life they are problematic. As tent protests were silent re occupation.

      • Mooser says:

        “this is why i believe that OWS like the tent protests in ISrael must be embraced”

        I agree! Went shopping for diary yesterday, and the price cottage cheese is outrageous!

      • Avi_G. says:

        Philip Weiss November 4, 2011 at 10:56 am

        i agree, great post. thanks ben
        this is why i believe that OWS like the tent protests in ISrael must be embraced– here they are fashioning an important critique of neoliberalism– but on the most important human rights/foreign policy issue of American life they are problematic. As tent protests were silent re occupation.

        Phil,

        If you think that what you propose is a strategically a good plan, then could you cite some successful attempts in history where such a strategy succeeded?

        Concerning Israel and foreign policy, what specific outcome do you hope to see coming from this “embrace” of neoliberal criticism? Incidentally, how does your proposition fit into the tent protests in Israel?

        I’m really curious to learn about your rationale for this. Can you outline it in some detail?

    • Avi_G. says:

      Scott November 4, 2011 at 10:15 am

      Fascinating, highly informative, post!

      It is informative because it tells me that much like all the online arguments and Hasbara polluting the internet, there is a similar force polluting these movements.

      The problem is that Americans, unlike people who lived in the former Soviet Union and could read through the transparent propaganda of newspapers like Pravda, can’t see the machinations of deception if they stared them in the proverbial eyes.

      It is no coincidence — and certainly not a surprise — that the Palestine issue remains a “fault line” within the Occupy movement.

      Zionist organizations do not operate on a one dimensional level. When it comes to effecting change that is favorable to Israel they operate on several dimensions. They try the classic character assassination (Accusations of anti-Semitism), at the same time, they would be planning a backup plan to co-opt the movement. And if that fails, they would try to infiltrate it and provoke a harsh reaction from the government.

      But the reason there is a war, so to speak, raging between the neoconservative Jewish camp and the liberal Jewish camp — on whose periphery is the Christian populace — stems from disagreement over domestic policies. Why? Because people are selfish and they care first and foremost about their own quality of life. But, one thing is certain, both the NeoCon camp and the liberal (or NeoLiberal, there is no difference, really) agree that US policy toward Israel should remain within the realm of the Jewish community, no need to involve those Christian Americans in the conversation. So this is an attempt to arrest the breech of the proverbial dam.

      Ironically, it is that very dam for which Mondoweiss was created, that wall of censorship and silence around that taboo subject in the United States.

      P.S. – If you have the time, you might want to check out the archives here at Mondoweiss and see the debates that took place earlier this year when the Libya fiasco had yet to unfold. The nice thing about the archives is that they provide one with a retrospective view, hindsight, to compare all the opinions that were flung back then, with the actual political outcome on the ground in Libya today. See if you can spot a pattern in the thought processes.

  2. Citizen says:

    Yep. As of this comment, the battle is waging on Twitter re OWS stance on Israel’s conduct. The latest flotilla is all over Twitter too; I’m sure they will meet soon in Twitterland. Will OWS act like the recent Israeli protests against their own government–by not including treatment of Palestinians as part of what’s worthy to protest? If so, truly the US & Israel are now separated only on paper and geography. If so, the US of Israel.

  3. kungfujew says:

    At Occupy Yom Kippur and Occupy Sukkot, I was delighted to include Israel and Palestine in my calls for justice everywhere, particularly in a uniquely Jewish relationship to affecting change. But attempts to coopt the Occupy Wall Street movement for niche issues is inappropriate, by either anti-occupation or pro-Israel boosters — most foreign policy issues at large, I would say. While the average participant of OWS aspires for an end to oppression also in Israel-Palestine, the central concerns of this movement are domestic, concerning corporate interferance in government and inequity at home.

    • annie says:

      did you just call i/p a ‘niche issue’?

    • Mooser says:

      “particularly in a uniquely Jewish relationship to affecting change”

      No fair borrowing from Richard Witty without attribution! We do have some standards around here.

      • Antidote says:

        Mooser: false attribution to RW? I thought this was the central claim of the Protocols? you know, Jews starting all revolutions for the purpose of ruining countries and gaining power over them and their assets etc etc

        It’s strange how philo-Semites (includes Zionists) and anti-Semites always make the same claims. The only difference is how they evaluate those allegedly unique Jewish traits. Is it good for the Jews / the Gentiles?

    • Newclench says:

      The twitter account description includes this:
      “News and information about the occupation of Wall Street. Opinions tweeted do not reflect the occupation as a whole.”
      Furthermore, and correct me if I’m wrong, the account Ben links to above is link to twitter.com, but the account that sent the tweet is link to twitter.com. Not the same. The one that posted the tweet is an independent affinity group that doesn’t claim to represent or follow the directives of the General Assembly of OWS or any of its working groups. Which is fine…. let a thousand voices bloom.
      Just don’t misrepresent. The movement is diverse and likely to reject efforts that divide the 99%.
      That said, stay tuned for some of the smaller and least politically diverse of the #occupy sites to quibble.

      It seems a lot of folks have what to say about what OWS says without a clue about how they are actually organized.

      Stay tuned for folks claiming that anyone focusing on domestic concerns *should* be doing something else. I’d love to see that presented at the next spokescouncil!

      • annie says:

        Stay tuned for folks claiming that anyone focusing on domestic concerns *should* be doing something else.

        who says that? where do you come up with this stuff? i’m more interested in hearing the argument how our domestic issues are not impacted by our foreign policy. i’d like to hear some OWS explain to us how the trillions we spend on making war in the middle east doesn’t affect us domestically. i’d like someone to kindly explain how this budget has no impact on the american taxpayer because as far as i am concerned that very much becomes part of the focus on domestic issues. or is that just a too radical concept for most OWStreeters to comprehend? the little niche issue of our defense budget and who it is our forgeign policy is designed to protect.

        i’ll say this much, listening to the candidates running for office one just might get the impression israel was pretty darned important to most ‘folks’.

        • Newclench says:

          You… just did what I said was going to happen. I’m not even arguing with you on the merits. Just pointing out that on this list, and elsewhere, we can expect a wave of ‘should’ing.
          That happened cleaner and faster than I expected.
          Next up, the argument that anything related to Israel *is* domestic politics.

        • annie says:

          You… just did what I said was going to happen.

          omg, you must be psychic! you predict people who think the trillions we spend on defense impacts our domestic problems are going to open their mouths! wow, someone give clench the prescience award.

        • Newclench says:

          First you ask ‘who said this’ and then when it turns out to be you, suddenly I’m a psychic. Are you refuting an assertion or proving it? Why even ask ‘who said this’ if it’s so predictable?

        • American says:

          “i’m more interested in hearing the argument how our domestic issues are not impacted by our foreign policy.”

          So am I annie. If people don’t think our foreign policy, Israel, Iraq, Iran, Afghan, “gobalization”, the international elite, what just happened with UNESCO and Palestine, and dozens of other foreign related policies don’t affect us domestically–then they are wasting their time whinning about domestic issues only. They might as well take down their tents and go home.

        • American says:

          “Next up, the argument that anything related to Israel *is* domestic politics”..Clench

          Well, It *is*.
          Do you seriously think that those of here at least don’t know Israel is a ‘Jewish Pro Israel domestic’ construction in the US?
          Anytime you want to start that argument bring it on cause we can bury you on that.

        • yourstruly says:

          the connection between war/military spending and budget shortcomings has been said many times on mw & before ows came into existence. sooner rather than later, ows will take up the issue, which is inseperatble from the p/i conflict

        • annie says:

          First you ask ‘who said this’ and then when it turns out to be you, suddenly I’m a psychic.

          actually no clenchy, you just changed the goalposts. see if you can tell the difference>

          You… just did what I said was going to happen. I’m not even arguing with you on the merits. Just pointing out that on this list, and elsewhere, we can expect a wave of ‘should’ing.

          but that isn’t what you said to expect. now..scroll on up there and look at what you actually wrote before, i even blockquoted you in my 11:47 am response. i’ll repeat it for you:

          Stay tuned for folks claiming that anyone focusing on domestic concerns *should* be doing something else.

          i didn’t say you should be focusing on something else, ever. i said:

          “i’m more interested in hearing the argument how our domestic issues are not impacted by our foreign policy.”

          “i’d like to hear some OWS explain to us how the trillions we spend on making war in the middle east doesn’t affect us domestically.”

          “kindly explain how this budget has no impact on the american taxpayer because as far as i am concerned that very much becomes part of the focus on domestic issues. ”

          which one of those questions says you should not be focusing on our domestic issues? none. when i said ‘someone give clench the prescience award’ i was snarking you.

          Stay tuned for folks.. clench won’t give me a straight answer to any of my questions. i’m so psychic…not.

        • annie says:

          exactly yourstruly.

        • Newclench says:

          American, I’m not going to argue on this. Not sure if I’ve said anything on the topic that merits burying….

        • annie says:

          ha!
          Do you seriously think that those of here at least don’t know Israel is a ‘Jewish Pro Israel domestic’ construction in the US?

          he’s not gonna talk about that american.

          we can bury you on that.

          no worries, he’s already surrendered.

      • American says:

        “Just don’t misrepresent. The movement is diverse and likely to reject efforts that divide the 99%.”..Clencher

        Are you saying the 99% would walk away from OWS on account of Israel? You know buddy, I didn’t know exactly what you were when you first appeared here, but your hasbara is so transparent it’s pathetic.
        Your statement that Israel could divide OWS could have been taken directly from the latest ADL petition to not let Israel become a partisan issue.
        How many Jews in the US, 6 million? How many of them are Israel Firsters,… a 10%, a third, half?
        You think those numbers mean squat to the 300,000 99%.
        Keep it up and the next tweet you see will be ‘Jews are trying to shut down OWS!..how do you think that will play? Think the 99% will give it up for the Jews and Israel?

      • American says:

        WHY won’t you tell us Clencher exactly what your affiliation with OWS is?
        I’ve asked a dozen times now.
        ANSWER the question.

        • Newclench says:

          I’m active with some of the Working Groups, and in the occupyjudaism stuff. I make no claim to representative status.

        • American says:

          Well Clench you have been speaking as if you had some ‘position’ with OWS.
          But your main interest is occupyjudaism. Which as I understand it is Sieradski and his progressive jewschool group who also aligns themselves with J Street.
          When will you get it…..?….it is fine for Jews who are for OWS to take part as Americans….if is NOT fine for a group of Jews to go into OWS and try to tell them they can’t mention I/P or Israel or anything else .
          When you do that it once again tells Americans that Jews, be they hawks or doves, put Israel above Americans interest and try to shut down the public’s criticism of Israel.

      • American says:

        “I’d love to see that presented at the next spokescouncil!”

        What spokescouncil is that Clencher? Who is on your spokescouncil?
        Would that be the Jews who flocked to OWS “after” the issue of Palestine came up?
        Who are you speaking for Clencher?…as far as I know OWS doesn’t even have any one central committee…has no official spokepersons….all it has is hundreds of dozens of groups talking within it……..with no central command.
        So for the hundredth time…who are you speaking for?
        Why are you afraid to answer the question?

    • This is also in my prayers every Shabbas, and holidays.

      That EVERYONE may experience peace and health, and that by my actions, such an outcome is more present.

  4. annie says:

    thank you for writing this. it’s a really important discussion we need to have about OWS

    #OWS does not have a position on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict,

    that’s funny because i keep getting the impression their position is not to talk about it, which is a position.

    “#OWS is a consensus based movement. The GA has never discussed the I/P issue & even if it did, it would never reach consensus.”

    never discussed the I/P issue? is that even believable?

    • Kathleen says:

      At the Occupy Dayton event that I attended a few weeks ago the organizers read the by laws or covenant of OWS (what ever they call their agreements) Within those by laws was . This is not the manifesto that they read but similar
      “We believe that it is possible to inject justice into the global economy.”

      link to dailycaller.com

      the agreement that they read had much more than this. A great deal about humanitarian justice around the world. Can not find the manifesto that they read and asked others to agree with. A great deal about non violence, no drugs no alcohol at events etc.

    • MRW says:

      Annie,

      Time to bring up your Delphi Technique links because that’s what this is.

      #OWS does not need to be a global kitchen sink here in the US. I am reading B.K. Eakman’s workshop book about the Delphi Technique. (She’s the woman who educated the educators about it.) The moment you hear “consensus based movement,” a red-flag should go up. It could be honest; maybe not.

      Here’s a great 14 minutes to watch about what the Occupy Movement should set as their three goals, by someone who knows what the hell he is talking about:
      link to therealnews.com

  5. Kathleen says:

    thank you thank you…very interesting.

  6. On the Occupy Fort Worth FB page Charles Norman writes:
    “Somebody over there — one “Publius” — is telling me that supporting OWS entails opposition to and denunciation of Israel. Is that part of OFW’s program? If so, you’ll get no more coffee, water, sweetener, creamer, and cups from me. I didn’t sign up to fight Israel. I’m here to fight the 1%.”

    To which Doni Maxwell replies:
    “I have no idea who Publius is, nor is that twitter associated with us as far as I know.”

    Cory Petta commented: “that is not part of the movement at all.”

    Charles Norman thanks them and adds: “This kind of crap is the ONLY thing that can kill this movement.”

    Human rights turns to crap in Fort Worth…

    (note: Publius is the name on the twitter account)

    • tod says:

      Charles Norman thanks them and adds: “This kind of crap is the ONLY thing that can kill this movement.”

      Yeah! There can be no movement without the Jews! It’s the law!

      Sorry, but this guy’s reaction is insulting.

      Besides that, while I would like to see OWS support Palestine I think this issue can wait.
      And besides, restoring the power to the people cannot be possible without taking it for AIPAC and the big money. The issue does not need to be present as the outcome will still be bad for Israel.

    • BillM says:

      Wow. If you criticize Israel you lose your coffee AND sweetener? That’s harsh. Glad to see the flotilla is forcing this discussion into the open in OWS.

    • Pixel says:

      Charles Norman… “Somebody over there… is telling me that supporting OWS entails opposition to and denunciation of Israel. I didn’t sign up to fight Israel. I’m here to fight the 1%.”

      CN just hasn’t made the connection, yet, between Israel and the 1% he’s fighting.

    • American says:

      “Charles Norman thanks them and adds: “This kind of crap is the ONLY thing that can kill this movement.”

      The ONLY thing? “ONLY’?
      Well, that is a dead give away as to what Charles Norman is.

    • MRW says:

      OWS entails opposition to and denunciation of Israel

      This is an agent provocateur. Period.

    • Whizdom says:

      Pubius is a longtime DKos hasbarista.

  7. patm says:

    link to mondoweiss.net

    I can well imagine newclench having had a hand in the removal of the OWS supportive tweet.

  8. Wish I could remember who said this: “It’s not the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. It’s the conflict between the US and Israel on one side and the rest of the world on the other.”

    Whoever it was might have added Canada to “Israelius” but I’m not sure how you would spell that.

  9. “Israusacan”? “Israuscan”?

  10. dahoit says:

    How about Amercanbrifranrael?

  11. dahoit says:

    Or Lilliputia for short.

  12. ritzl says:

    Within the limited context that justice for Palestine trumps justice for the 99% for many involved, I/P is fracturing to OWS.

    The question remains that as the protests get gassed and shot, how many people will avoid at all costs the connection to Palestinian treatment by Israel and take their ball and go home. By going home the statement would be made that Israel’s free rein/continued oppression is more important than the principles of reclaiming US/global democracy from the 1%. I think hat would be a real eye opener for many in the OWS camps.

  13. annie says:

    tablet has just linked to this post in an article called

    “Stray Flotilla Tweet Raises Questions About OWS
    Is the movement becoming explicitly pro-Palestinian?”

    yowza

    • American says:

      From what I observed OWS had a few people and signs that protested Israel/I/P— and then the Israel Firsters, zio operatives, professional anti semite hunters and probably some 1% Jewish/Zionist interest jumped in to try to shut down OWS. I am sure when the first Palestine sign appeared OWS immediately got infiltrated by Israeli activist.

      • Chaos4700 says:

        Yeah, it’s amazing how people like clench want to act like we’ve all forgotten that. Remember the hew and cry about the “anti-Semitic character” of the 99% movement in the earlier days of it?

        • Newclench says:

          I was pretty active in my circles denouncing the accusation of anti-Semitism. That was part of the motive for the ‘occupyjudaism’ stuff – to defend OWS against the right wing Republicans and neocons that were smearing OWS.
          OWS is not antisemitic. Why would I want you to forget my efforts to fight the false charge of antisemitism?

        • Chaos4700 says:

          Something else that we only have your words about, but not any visible action that we can account for. Yawn.

        • annie says:

          to defend OWS against the right wing Republicans and neocons that were smearing OWS.

          to what ends? so that you could leverage your previous defense to keep people from expressing their distress about our ‘special relationship’?

          you didn’t answer any of my earlier questions to you. was this really about defending ows against charges of anti semitism or earning street creds for later leverage making sure discussions about israel wouldn’t come up? is all discussion of foreign policy wrt how it impacts or economy discourage by your team @ ows..or just as it pertains to israel?

      • annie says:

        i was in oakland the other day and got confronted by this lobby dude i’ve seen before. (he asked why we weren’t bothered about china and other questions i’ve heard before) sorry if i am repeating myself i can’t recall if i mentioned it already. but tons of people pushed their fist in the air and made other positive signs when they say our signs and some wanted to have their pictures taken with us and our signs. there were a lot of palestinians there that i otherwise wouldn’t have known were palestinians. when we left inside the parking garage when we were in line to pay our ticket the guy said he liked our sign and that his sister was visiting next week and something about the property values of her house there. i though, jeez..they are everywhere.

        there were some luminaries from our movement there too.

    • The new info from the Tablet piece is that Mr. “Occupy Judaism” Sieradski seems to be the one who “raised concerns” about the tweet with the OWS management.

      It’s disappointing to see so many Jews (not just neocons, but “liberal” Jews) behaving just like they did during the anti-Iraq-war demonstrations.

    • Chaos4700 says:

      And why can’t OWS just be described as pro-human rights, exactly?

  14. Les says:

    My next sign:

    Occupy Wall Street, not Palestine!

  15. iamuglow says:

    That link is funny for all the wrong reasons…

    “it is going to become more and more difficult to deny that there are pro-Palestinian, and if you like pro-Hamas, elements among the occupiers,”

    haha

    or in the comments somebody says

    “Mondoweiss makes Hitler look like a reasonable guy.”

    jaja…

    another says

    “the anti zionist fanatic max blumenthal ”

    and if thats not enough

    “The Lede and Robert Mackey is an anti-Zionist haven. ”

    I fully convinced that I/P should be at the forefront the OWS movement. How you feel about US support for Israel is the perfect litmus test for whether you are living in reality. If you think 9/11, Iraq and US forgein affairs are niche issues that shouldnt be discussed than you are part of the problem.

    • American says:

      When you read that Tablet article.. it gives it all away if you didn’t get it already.

      The reason OWS is a threat to Israel and the Israel first Jews is because any change in US politics, especially rooting out the political money that influences US policies is a death sentence for the Israel Lobby scheme.
      If Americans ever cleaned up their government Israel would be slam out of luck.
      No Americans except US pro Israelis want to give Israel billions of their tax money.

      • Citizen says:

        Hopefully, the OWS folks will eventually see that a root problem radiating out to all they don’t like is our current campaign finance system–yes, were that to be replaced, the Israel Lobby would have no teeth.

    • Chaos4700 says:

      Well at the very least, we can teach the rest of the OWS movement what it’s like to be tear-gassed and strip-searched and beaten and have the FBI harass you for exercising your Constitutional rights. I’m guessing the world of being an activist is like NOTHING most of these people in the 99% movement have ever experienced before.

    • Am_America says:

      it is on the forefront because those who really are concerned about the 99% don’t want their movement hijacked by anti-zionist fanatics. It will be the quickest way to kill the movement. Then you’ll be hated even more than the evil zionist regime (accept maybe by the neocons, talk about irony.)

      • annie says:

        Then you’ll be hated even more than the evil zionist regime

        in your dreams

      • Chaos4700 says:

        Remind me who is to blame for the US pulling out of UNESCO.

        • Citizen says:

          Hopefully, the Palestinians will soon apply for membership in some other interesting UN-affiliated agencies, like the ones that engage in international cooperation respecting patents and atomic energy.

        • Chaos4700 says:

          Iran, China and Russia will wholeheartedly back that, and the UK and France will be shouting up a storm at us for undermining nuclear non-proliferation.

          Israel and the traitors in the Israel lobby really have wrecked US policy.

  16. American says:

    The OWS signs I like best so far:

    “Second time I have fought for my country, first time I have know who the enemy was”

    And

    “I’m here, I’m Unclear, Get Use to It.”

    OWS to me should not be about a few specific things, shouldn’t have a few demands, it should be about ‘Everything’ that money and corruption has done to our government.
    If OWS was going to have any One demand it should be getting money out of politics…which is as I have said over and over, the source of all our troubles….all our troubles.

    • Whizdom says:

      Props to Israel, though. They are instituting a wealth tax, and are openly discussing the “concentration” of wealth and that impact on national character. Way ahead of us

      • Chaos4700 says:

        And then you know what will happen? Another Operation Cast Lead, or another invasion of Lebanon. Hell, maybe even the Sinai. Well, and then there’s Iran. Anything to take their minds off of the painful realities of social strata and wealth gaps in Israel.

    • Citizen says:

      American: OWS needs to focus on getting rid of our current campaign finance system. That’s the head of the stinking fish.

    • mikeo says:

      I liked: “Sorry for the inconvenience. We are trying to change the world”

  17. yourstruly says:

    critics of the occupy everywhere movement can easily test the validity of their scepticism by attending a neighborhood occupy everywhere general assembly, which just happens to be the heart and soul of the occupy movement*. while there, you will have the opportunity to explain why the occupy movement is inseperable from palestine, and then to request that the general assembly take appropriate action. no, the movement as a whole has yet to take a stand, a failing, that’s true, but a failing with a simple & easy remedy; namely, more and more supporters of justice for palestine become part of these general assemblies, helping them to grow both in size & reach. now or never, folks. It’s action time. yeah!

    *it’s at a general assembly that the leaderless, yet everyone a leader ambience that defines the occupy movement can best be experienced & understood.