‘Huffpo’ gives Ginsberg platform to push for illegal covert war against Iran

Marc Ginsberg
Marc Ginsberg

The Democratic Party is in a shambles over the Iran question. Marc Ginsberg, former U.S. Ambassador to Morocco under Clinton, has just used the pages of the I-thought-it-was-liberal Huffington Post to try and undermine Leon Panetta’s reluctance to use force against Iran, and to push a policy of internationally illegal assassinations, sabotage, and covert war against Iran:

when the Secretary of Defense bares his understandable hesitations against the use of military force, which he did last Friday — no matter how meritorious they are — it only undermines the signals his administration is broadcasting…

More robust and coordinated covert action by western and Arab nations against Iran’s nuclear facilities must become an urgent priority. Mysterious computer viruses such as the Stuxnet worm, undeniably set back Iran’s spinning uranium enrichment centrifuges. But their success was short lived. Assassinations of Iranian nuclear scientists may have created a climate of fear, but also have not prevented Iran from moving more quickly to its finish line.

Last week’s “accidental” explosion which destroyed one of Iran’s largest solid-fuel missile construction bases was a gift that may keep on giving. It not only killed a key Revolutionary Guard commander in charge of missile solid fuel rocket development, the explosion also compels Iran to rely more on liquid fuel missiles that are easier to detect on the ground via satellite surveillance.

The escalating use of stealth drones conducting surveillance above Iran is an indication that the administration is not reluctant to push the covert envelope. The question is what to do with the treasure trove of data the drone surveillance program yielded?

Accidents do happen. Bigger “accidents” are needed. Rather than relying further on economic sanctions, we need a more effective “accidents regime” that may do what economic sanctions have failed to do. Of course, Iran has demonstrated a huge tolerance for international isolation and economic pain. There is no assurance that escalating covert action will achieve a better outcome than economic sanctions… but its worth the risk given the stakes involved.

There are targets aplenty throughout Iran, including remote pipelines, ships bound for Iran supplying oil distillates, banking computer networks, and aviation facilities. And the regime has a lot of enemies, including many of its own citizens to do the dirty work. No return U.S. address needed.

About Philip Weiss

Philip Weiss is Founder and Co-Editor of Mondoweiss.net.
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  1. Citizen says:

    “There is no assurance that escalating covert action will achieve a better outcome than economic sanctions… but its worth the risk given the stakes involved.”

    Yeah, let’s pick some more out of Dick and Jane’s shabby wallet and purse, and send their kids over there if need be. Bad enough nearly our entire Congress is chickenhawk, but guys like Ginsberg most clearly reveal their loyalty priority to a foreign country, one that exhibits America’s highest values for only one ethnic demography of its whole. Too bad they are not NASCAR racing cars with their sponsor’s logo plastered all over them. Or maybe they could be identified in the same way Israel does its Jewish versus non-Jewish citizens?

    • “more robust and coordinated covert ” escalating covert action worth the risks? something tells me this was prepared over @ some aipac think tank before last weeks events.

      Mysterious computer viruses such as the Stuxnet worm, undeniably set back Iran’s spinning uranium enrichment centrifuges……….The escalating use of stealth drones conducting surveillance above Iran is an indication that the administration is not reluctant to push the covert envelope.

      maybe marc ginsberg should grok US/IS isn’t the only country that can utilize computer viruses and consider the technological set back we suffered last week as a result of escalating covert action. how do he think iran brought down that drone without consecutive opportunities to collect data on all those invasive flyovers.

      we just lost the most secretive top secret tech to iran because of pressure to escalate, exactly the kind of pressure being made public here. not smart. i hope obama stops listening to these neocons.

  2. “There are targets aplenty throughout Iran, including remote pipelines,
    ships bound for Iran supplying oil distillates, banking computer networks, and aviation facilities.”
    My proposition is to put all those warmongers , like this Ginsberg creep, “on ship bound for Iran”, and then have an “accident”.
    No tears would be shed.
    BTW, on this picture he looks like he is growing some snake, reptile fangs.

  3. Dan Crowther says:

    haha! man, these keyboard warriors are something else…

    “There are targets aplenty throughout Iran, including remote pipelines, ships bound for Iran supplying oil distillates, banking computer networks, and aviation facilities. And the regime has a lot of enemies, including many of its own citizens to do the dirty work. No return U.S. address needed.”

    – yea, lets kill a bunch of civilians: pipeline workers, ship crews, oil refinery workers, airplane mechanics, IT guys – hell we can even get some of their countrymen to do it for us!! Dont even have to get “our” hands dirty! What a brave, courageous man Marc Ginsberg is….

    • RoHa says:

      “these keyboard warriors are something else”

      I love being a keyboard/armchair warrior. I can revel in brilliantly planned and executed campaigns, predict military disasters, and glory in victories all from the comfort of my home. No humping heavy equipment around. No falling into mud. I never get splattered with bits of other people. And no-one is shooting at me.

      How else would you want me to fight?

  4. Cliff says:

    And the regime has a lot of enemies, including many of its own citizens to do the dirty work. No return U.S. address needed.

    Yea, and I’m sure those citizens would love to be fodder for the Ziocons.

  5. seafoid says:

    There are american targets aplenty throughout Afghanistan including remote supply lines, trucks bound for Afghanistan supplying oil distillates, information computer networks, and aviation facilities.”

  6. HarryLaw says:

    How are people like Ginsberg and Gingridge allowed to get away with this blatant warmongering, here in the UK there are laws which prohibit “soliciting to kill anybody anywhere in the world,the US is not at war with Iran,these people would fall foul of this law if they said it in the UK.Several years ago three men were sent to jail for soliciting murder during a demonstration against an anti Islamic cartoon,the judge Brian Barker said that their words had been designed to encourage murder and terrorism. They had been filmed by the police shouting bomb bomb Denmark, bomb bomb USA, [BBC news channel 30 Oct 2007] Two were sent to jail for 6 years each ,one was sent to jail for 4 years for race hate.

  7. When it comes to supporters of Israel there are apparently no laws restricting their advocacy of what is nothing less than state terrorism. That the culprit is a former US government foreign policy official makes it far more serious than had it been done by your run of the mill Zionist windbag.

    It would be appropriate for some US-based organization to call on the Justice Dept. to take action against Ginsberg as it would against some deranged, harmless idiot who made a public threat against a US government official.

  8. Les says:

    Ginsberg is invariably tooting the same mono-message on Huffington Post. Why does Huffington Post encourage his droning monotone?

  9. Shingo says:

    Panetta’s comments have got the neocons into a real tail spin. Michael Singh, from WINEP, wrote a similar piece at FP and was completely eviscerated in the comments section.

    There’s a great takedown of Singh here:

    link to nationalinterest.org

  10. HarryLaw says:

    The Supreme court in their decision in Holder v Humanitarian Law project regarding the Kurdish workers party and Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam,when the plaintiffs sought to help these groups to peacefully resolve their conflicts, the court disagreed and held that expert advice or assistance,service and personnel were constitutional as applied to the forms of support that plaintiffs sought to provide to Foreign terrorist organisations. Jimmy Carter said that he could be prosecuted for the work he has done under this ruling. So there you have it Advocating peaceful resolution of conflicts is unlawful calling for the murder of citizens of Iran and openly advocating terrorism as Gingride and ginsberg do is legal.

  11. kalithea says:

    Huffpo is the mouthpiece of Zionist propaganda. Anyone who doesn’t tow the line on Zionist bullshet gets censored or the comments appear on page 2 or 3 half an hour to an hour later where fewer people will see them.

    Huffpo is SHAMELESS in its overt bias.

  12. RE: “‘Huffpo’ gives Ginsberg platform to push for illegal covert war
    against Iran” ~ Weiss

    MY COMMENT: Marc Ginsberg sounds like a “master of war”.

    SING ONE OF MY VERY FAVORITES, BOB:

    “Come you masters of war
    You that build the big guns
    You that build the death planes
    You that build all the bombs
    You that hide behind walls
    You that hide behind desks
    I just want you to know
    I can see through your masks.
    ~
    You that never done nothin’
    But build to destroy
    You play with my world
    Like it’s your little toy
    You put a gun in my hand
    And you hide from my eyes
    And you turn and run farther
    When the fast bullets fly…”
    ~ Bob Dylan, 1963

    “Masters of War” Bob Dylan W/ Lyrics (VIDEO, 04:31) – link to youtube.com

  13. RoHa says:

    TOE the line. Stand with your toes on the line.

    link to en.wikipedia.org

    Where does this “tow” come from?

  14. dbroncos says:

    Iran will ultimately respond to the “accidents regime” -war by another name. It should come as no surprise, then, to warmongers like Ginsburg, that instead of biting the pillow harder the Iranians will bite back.

  15. tree says:

    Where does this “tow” come from?

    According to Wiktionary, its an eggcorn:

    eggcorn (plural eggcorns)

    (linguistics) An idiosyncratic but semantically motivated substitution of a word or phrase for a word or words that sound identical, or nearly so, at least in the dialect the speaker uses.
    deep-seeded instead of deep-seated
    deformation of character instead of defamation of character
    for all intensive purposes instead of for all intents and purposes
    free reign instead of free rein
    oldtimer’s disease instead of Alzheimer’s disease
    on tender hooks instead of on tenterhooks

    link to en.wiktionary.org

    In modern usage, this is sometimes carelessly written tow the line, which itself has taken on a new meaning as an eggcorn. This practice probably originated with people who heard the expression but were not familiar with the original spelling or meaning. With the spelling tow the expression naturally takes on a slightly more active meaning: not simply conforming to the rules, but helping to enforce or confirm them.
    The phrase itself is derived from sailing terminology, in which a ‘line’ refers to a rope or similar that is used to adjust the vessel’s sails. Thus, ‘toeing the line’ means using the toe on one’s foot to find the relevant line and thereby aligning oneself with what needs to be done.
    In common usage, ‘towing the line’ and ‘toeing the line’ essentially amount to the same thing, as both imply that a person brings themself into agreement with either those around them, the task at hand, or the prevailing thinking of the situation. It is similar in meaning to ‘everyone pulling in the same direction’ or ‘everyone getting on board’, which incidentally are also derived from sailing nomenclature.

    link to en.wiktionary.org

    Off topic, this reminded me of my favorite mondegreens on You-Tube:

    Joe Cocker singing A Little Help from My Friends, mondogreen version: link to youtube.com

    • RoHa says:

      “This practice probably originated with people who heard the expression but were not familiar with the original spelling or meaning.”

      Can’t they read?

      • tree says:

        Can’t they read?

        99.999% of people hear with their ears and read with their eyes. If you have only heard the expression, “tow” makes just as much sense as, or even more than, “toe”, in modern usage, and most people would not see the need to “look-up” a word (“tow”) they already know how to spell.

        English being an adaptable language, tow the line may become just as acceptable as toe the line. If “eggcorn” can become a word after first being introduced on the internet in 2003, there’s no reason why “tow the line” can’t eventually be considered an acceptable phrase.

        • RoHa says:

          ” If you have only heard the expression”

          you haven’t done enough reading.

          “there’s no reason why “tow the line” can’t eventually be considered an acceptable phrase.”

          Yes there is. I don’t like it. That is sufficient reason.

        • Philip Weiss says:

          im with you roha. dont like it. tho yes it seems to be catching on

        • tree says:

          Yes there is. I don’t like it. That is sufficient reason.

          Only if you are the ultimate arbiter of acceptable English. I hate to break this to you, but….

          Personally, I think that English’s adaptability to new words and phrases is one of the primary reasons its been such a successful language. Some new words and phrases I dislike. So what? I long ago learned my preferences don’t rule the world, nor necessarily should they.

        • MRW says:

          Towing the line could, possibly, represent the backy forthy of a tug-of-war.

          But toeing the line means there is a stationary line, and your toes are on it.
          ——————–

          Now, can we please address the difference between loose and lose?

          “Loosing something” is incorrect. It’s “losing something,” with as many O’s as “lost.”

          When something IS loose, the verb that caused it is loosen.

        • RoHa says:

          “Only if you are the ultimate arbiter of acceptable English.”

          Regardless of what you hate to break to me, I am.

        • RoHa says:

          “Loosing something” is incorrect. It’s “losing something,” with as many O’s as “lost.”

          Indeed. When I loose the hounds upon those who would write “tow the line”, I expect them to come back after they have dispatched the miscreant. If I lose the hounds, how will I deal with those who doubt my position as ultimate arbiter of acceptable English?

        • eljay says:

          >> Regardless of what you hate to break to me, I am.

          I stand behind (but not uncomfortably close to) RoHa on this one: He da maing!

  16. RoHa says:

    “In common usage, ‘towing the line’ and ‘toeing the line’ essentially amount to the same thing,”

    Not quite the same in connotation.

    “Towing the line” seems to me to imply co-operative activity – possibly voluntary – for a useful purpose.

    “Toeing the line” implies being subject to fierce Royal Navy discipline. It carries the image of standing rigidly to attention while an officer looks for an excuse to have you flogged or keelhauled.

    And the latter seems more appropriate in the context of Zionist propaganda.

  17. MRW says:

    Call it what it is: Marc Ginsberg is doing advertorials for his own PR firm. His speciality is the ME.

  18. Kathleen says:

    Huff Po has allowed right wing on Israel, Iran so called liberals to spew go get Iran post for years now. While often blocking any of the facts on the ground about the Israeli Palestinian conflict and Iran (former Iaea inspector Robert Kelly’s take on the latest IAEA report about Iran ) up at that so called liberal site.

    Do you ever see any post by Flynt and Hillary Mann Leverett on Iran on the front page of Huffington Post?

    Sometimes you can get a link to Mondoweiss through their inconsistent and clearly biased screeners on threads at the bottom of the front page about the Palestinians etc issue. Clearly the site is basically pro Israel no matter what they do.

    Pep’s for sure (progressive except for Palestine) and Syria, Iran.
    Could we call them Pepsi’s?

  19. Kathleen says:

    The interview with Col Wilkerson is a must watch.
    Same message, same people . Go get Iraq, go get Iran crowd.

    This is a must watch and listen
    Col. Wilkerson: US War w Iran ’3 yrs. Away’

  20. Kathleen says:

    Second time I have put this up at Huff Po today under the Ginsberg blog. Did not make it earlier. Trying again

    “Ambassador Ginsberg is not an expert on Iran. Why is Huff Po promoting his false claims above the Huff Po fold on the front page?

    When will the Huff Po post Flynt Leverett and Hillary Mann Leveretts fact based opinions about Iran like the same people who lied our nation into Iraq who have been pushing and lying for a military confrontation against Iran for a solid eight years like Ginsberg.

    Col. Wilkerson: US War w Iran ’3 yrs. Away’
    As Colonel Wilderson so clearly said recently same people same arguments for an invasion of iraq pushing for confrontation with Iran

    When oh when will Huff Post have blogs by Hillary and Flynt Mann Leverett (both former Bush administration officials who quit the Bush administration because they disagreed with the invasion) Flynt is a former middle east CIA analyst. Hillary has directly negotiated with Iran.
    When Huff PO? When will you promote more moderate and well informed voices on Iran
    IRAN, AMERICAN DRONES, AND THE INTERLINKED CRISES OF U.S. HEGEMONY AND GLOBAL GOVERNANCE
    link to raceforiran.com

    link to youtube.com

    Does anyone know about the filtering situation over there? Sometimes I get info through on the I/P issue and Iran. Sometimes not. What is the deal over there? Does Ginsberg filter comments for his own thread? Does he decide?

  21. gingershot says:

    Ginsberg is just another Neocon Terrorist

  22. Kathleen says:

    I have put this up under the ginsberg thread over at Huff Po now six times. Will not put it up
    HUFFPOST SUPER USER
    cathleen
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    Ambassador Ginsberg is not an expert on Iran. Why is Huff Po promoting his false claims above the Huff Po fold on the front page?

    When will the Huff Po post Flynt Leverett and Hillary Mann Leveretts fact based opinions about Iran instead of the same people who lied our nation into Iraq who have been pushing and lying for a military confrontat­ion against Iran for a solid eight years like Ginsberg.

    Hillary and Flynt Mann Leverett (both former Bush administra­tion officials who quit the Bush administra­tion because they disagreed with the invasion) Flynt is a former middle east CIA analyst. Hillary has directly negotiated with Iran.
    When will you promote more moderate and well informed voices on Iran
    IRAN, AMERICAN DRONES, AND THE INTERLINKE­D CRISES OF U.S. HEGEMONY AND GLOBAL GOVERNANCE
    link to www­.raceforir­an.com

    Col. Wilkerson: US War w Iran ’3 yrs. Away’
    As Colonel Wilderson so clearly said recently same people same arguments for an invasion of iraq pushing for confrontat­ion with Iran
    link to www­.youtube.c­om