When is someone going to lose his job for calling someone an anti-Semite?

A noble statement, Peter Beinart to Chemi Shalev in Haaretz a few weeks back (emphasis mine):

“I want people, non-Jewish Americans, to have opinions about this like they have opinions about anything else. They may be wrong, they may be stupid, they may be ignorant. Let them have their opinions. And don’t call them anti-Semites unless they have a history of animus toward the Jewish people.

“The problem is that we have a Jewish organizational world whose business model is anti-Semitism, and there’s not enough of it in the United States. So they have to keep looking for it in the Israel debate, when what’s going on is not anti-Semitism. And it upsets me a great deal that American Jewish leaders never have to pay the price. Nobody ever loses their job for getting up on the wrong side of the bed one morning, reading an op-ed they don’t like, and then saying that that person is an anti-Semite. And you should lose your job for that. There should be consequences for that. The pain of being called an anti-Semite in this post-Holocaust world, when you’re not, is just agonizing to watch, frankly.”

About Philip Weiss

Philip Weiss is Founder and Co-Editor of Mondoweiss.net.
Posted in American Jewish Community, Israel Lobby, Israel/Palestine, Media

{ 0 comments... read them below or add one }

  1. You are so generous Phil to recognize the nobility in Beinart’s spirit as he wrestles with his mixed feelings about Israel and strives valiantly to rehabilitate Zionism, efforts very likely too little too late.

  2. pabelmont says:

    Bravo Phil and Peter Beinart. Beinart makes a VERY important point. He is NOT against (his rather imaginary, or historical goal of) Israel, but he is *DOWN* on the USA’s entrenched “Jewish Orgs”. And, the kicker, his message may be a very good introduction to American Jews ready to begin to learn about Israel as it is today but not yet ready to kick Israel (not ready because they don’t know enough). Making fun of the cheap “anti-semitism” allegation is a good step, bioth for Americans generally adn for Jews.

    It’s a good thing for Jews to “model” responsible learning and responsible opinionating. Beinart is on the way.

    As to the Jewish politburo’s use of “anti-semitism”:

    As Beinart makes “abundantly clear” in his book “The Crisis of Zionism”, the major Jewish orgs used to be (say in the early 1960s and before) HUMAN RIGHTS/CIVIL RIGHTS orgs with a broad focus.

    But as Jewish life in the USA got better for Jews, the middle-class Jews who wanted to support civil rights, human rights, began to TRANSFER THEIR $$$ GIVING away from Jewish orgs to broadly American orgs (NAACP, ACLU, etc.).

    This process (very sadly) left the Jewish orgs dependent for contributions on people locked in fears for Jews and remembering the long-gone Holocaust as a present danger and THESE ORGS TRANSFERRED their focus to ANTI-SEMITISM (rather than human rights generally) and HOLOCAUST REMEMBRANCE and Israel adn the asserted dangers to Israel and HYSTERIA generally.

  3. Sin Nombre says:

    After a giant horselaugh I had to say that within his own standard Beinart is being very consistent and brave here.

    The horselaugh however was indeed for the Beinarts of the world—supposedly oh-so-smart— just now starting to find out where that standard leads.

    After all it’s the Beinarts of the world—Progressives/the politically correct/whatever—who think that you’re damned right a person should be fired for his or her job for being “anti-semitic” or “racist” or whatever. Hell, when *aren’t* they out on the constant fun hunt for someone’s job?

    In essence (and forgetting even their disdain for their supposed love of “tolerance” and “diversity” and all that other self-congratulatory crap they churn out) imposing private speech codes where the government under the First Amendment could not.

    So just now they’re finding out how fickle a thing this is gonna be however! Today it’s “You’re fired for being a ‘racist’ as defined by … [faddishness as much as anything else].”

    And tomorrow it’ll be … “You’re fired for not being racist [or whatever] *enough*.” Or, more topically … “You’re fired for saying something pro-’terrorististic’!”

    You just have to love the Left, believing that their worldview of things is just always going to rule. Thus, of *course* having society throwing people out of their jobs for having what they regard as unpopular ideas is fine and dandy, because of *course* nobody is ever going to disagree with that opinion much less hold a radically different one.

    And yet, over what is a historical blink of the eye term, by their own lights first using the term “negro” was okay but is now probably racist to say, and then “African-American” was okay but now is being looked at squinty-eyed in some quarters, and tomorrow saying “Black” may well be found high indicia of an evil soul.

    Go ahead though, you Beinarts, see where the groundbreaking you’ve done like this gets you when your enemies become ascendent and come happily trotting over all that nice ground you’ve broken for them…. See what happens when you presuppose you know the absolute moral truth about things and prefer that over freedom. See what happens to *your* freedom sooner or later to question *other’s* moral truths.

    • LeaNder says:

      There is always something wrong with arguing along ideological party-lines. I still would be interested in his chapter (s?) about Obama, obviously his intentions were different, but he got stopped.

      I still think that Beinart is a breeze of fresh air. Does anyone know more about the author?

      This I found interesting, among many other things:

      At the recent General Assembly of Jewish Federations in Denver, I witnessed how swarms of young female listeners lapped up his words − even those who later found it necessary to say they reject his message completely.

      It is, or may come to be, the “Little Red Book” of left-leaning American Jewish intellectuals, the “Liberal Manifesto” of sophisticated Jews who insist on clinging to their old-style Zionism, even if it no longer exists.

    • Sin Nobre – You know what people are going to call you right?

      Conservative!!! Maybe even a PALEO-Conservative!!!

      You mean you would actually rather be FREE than SAFE???? You’re more concerned about the rules of the game than the outcome?? You think only FREE men can be moral??

      ME TOO!!

      • Mooser says:

        “You mean you would actually rather be FREE than SAFE????”

        A free man is always safe as long as he has his trusty sidearm. Guns will make us both free and safe.
        Everybody knows that!

        • Of course guns make us safer – can you imagine what a pain it would be to try and fight an armed populace like the US – have to take every street in every town? If, that is, we all have the courage to fight and die for our freedom. In this sense, the Afghans and Gazans have shown a lot of fortitude – whether you agree with them or not – OMG I just pulled a Guillen of my own!!!

          Handgun/Machine gun deaths in the inner city are tragic, but are not a reason to disarm the populace. Rather we might consider legalization of now illicit drugs or some other change to our drug policy.

          Maybe you laugh, but I just played a hockey game with only 5 guys and a goalie on my team vs a team of fireman with four lines (20 guys) – and we tied them after an overtime. That’s why we play the game, why we fight – you don’t know the outcome and couldn’t live with not knowing if you could have prevailed. It’s an attitude, a way of life. Like the expression ‘The difference between an adventure and an ordeal is attitude’.

          Don’t forget – the people have all the rights, execept those explicitly given to the government.

          Have to say I have sympathy for Sin Nombre’s comments below about the ‘road paved by the PC police’. You just can’t believe the mixture of fear and cognitive dissonance and looked of awed disbelief I get when the topic of IP comes up and I hold my ground – especially bankers, they seem like they’re afraid for me. I tell ‘em – just back me up once we make it safe to speak out.

          End of Rant

        • Koshiro says:

          Of course guns make us safer – can you imagine what a pain it would be to try and fight an armed populace like the US – have to take every street in every town?

          I can imagine it being a minor hassle, provided you have the insanely powerful military needed to support an invasion of the US in the first place. Privately owned small arms are notoriously ineffective against armored vehicles or even modern body armor.
          But as Gaza has unfortunately shown us, you don’t need to “take” anything anyway. You can just cordon off densely populated areas and control the flow of anything going in and out. Or you could just bomb any civilian resistance to smithereens.

    • Don says:

      “You just have to love the Left, believing that their worldview of things is just always going to rule.”

      You got that right, Sin Nombre.

      Thank god so many conservatives came to Ozzie Guillen’s defense the last few days.

      Or did I miss that?

      • Don –

        Just read on Guillen. Not similar comparison. Guillen works in sports and is paid much because it is popular. To lose his job because he alienated Cuban in Miami is reasonable because the team needs to fill seats/get popular and Guillen just messed that up. Kinda like a CEO driving the company into the ground should be fired.

        Looks like his Mea Culpa will allow him to keep his job anyways.

        Pointing out that Israeli policies are immoral and getting called an anti-semite is NOT similar to what happened to Guillen. However, if pressed most conservatives (I think) would aknowledge Guillen’s freedom of speech, but would also aknowledge that team management might have to let him go (Guillen is not free from consequences of his speech).

        Believe me, I’m sure I get invited to less dinner parties, etc and have lost friends due to taking a stand on IP – I don’t complain about the consequences of my speech; but do have a shotgun in case the government starts trying to limit it (lot of good that’ll do me).

        • Sin Nombre says:

          No John, I’d extend much of the sentiment I expressed to the Guillen thing too.

          It’s much worse when Progressives/political correctness jihadists/whomever enlist the law on their side in such things, such as damn near requiring the gagging or firing of an employee because they say un-PC things that other employees can then sue the company over.

          But here too with Guillen: So the hell what he likes Castro? It’s the road paved by the PC police that says fire him from same, despite it only involving a freaking sports team. It’s the sensibility of certain (selective) things justifying total nastiness, knifings essentially, not just disagreeing with people, but trying to deprive them even of the ability to earn a living. As if they’re subhumans, fit maybe only to haul garbage.

          (After all, if his pro-Castro sensibilities disqualify him from some sports job, well my God what job could he possible be fit for? So break him, man, reduce him and his wife and kids to trailer-parkdom….)

          It’s moral preening, is what it is, and it’s making it impossible for people to talk reasonably about issue after issue.

          So who’s surprised at what the U.S. has been roped into doing vis a vis the Palestinians? You cross the perhaps most-dreaded of all dread PC lines and become an anti-semite, well Dude, you ain’t even gonna criticized much *directly.* The damn near first and of course biggest response if at all possible anyway is gonna be … “Go after his job. His very family, man. Shut him up, grind him down, make an example of him….”

          … and then talk about how much you just want everyone to get along and the need for compassion and tolerance.

  4. maz says:

    What would be an example having “a history of animus toward the Jewish people”?

  5. marc b. says:

    In essence (and forgetting even their disdain for their supposed love of “tolerance” and “diversity” and all that other self-congratulatory crap they churn out) imposing private speech codes where the government under the First Amendment could not.

    righto, tolerance and diversity has its limitations. so long as everyone is free to choose between coke and pepsi, things will remain calm.

    i don’t know if your name means anything about you, sin nombre, but i’m reading roberto bolano’s ’2666′ and he spins a nice little portrait of western, liberal tolerance that sums up the hypocrisy of the ideal. three academics, two men, one from spain, the other from france, and third a woman from london, are in a london cab being driven by a pakistani. the three of them in the back of the cab are loudly discussing in anatomical detail their plans for a sexual threesome, and this sets the cab driver off on a pejorative-laden rant about the depravity of the west, particularly its women. well, this is just too offensive to the chivalric sensibilities of the men. they have the driver pull over to the curb, where the promptly pull him from the cab, and kick the living shit out of him in a priapic frenzy, complete with erections. after the climax of the beating, they wake from the fantasy fullfilled, and flee the scene before the cops can show up. now that’s tolerance.

    • Mooser says:

      “western, liberal tolerance”

      Gosh, the way I heard that story, it was an allegorical panegyric to conservative moral values. It ends with both the men beating the crap out of the woman, while yelling ‘slut’, and then going off hand-in-hand to outlaw abortion and make contraceptives impossible to get.

      • Citizen says:

        No, in the unedited end, Mooser, every teen girl gets 3,000 contraceptives per year for free, in case she wants to limits her babies to three.

        • Mooser says:

          Hey, Citizen, if you are in favor of teenage pregnancy, more power to ya’. However, check the age-of-consent laws, including the sections on who is competent to give consent, before putting your conservative plan to save us from the moral ruin of contraceptives into effect.

  6. Pixel says:

    Another great time to plug Defamation

    If you haven’t seen this 2009 video, it’s a must watch.

    Just wild – serious topic but entertaining and funny. Great be-bopping background music.

    The film maker is a young Jewish Israeli guy who goes around with his camcorder explaining to all sorts of people that he’s doing a film on defamation and asks to interview them.

    The Zionists he interviews assume that his perspective matches their own, so they trust him completely and speak more than freely. Eye-opening.

    Abe Foxman gave the guy the ok to follow him around AIPAC filming for a few days – priceless! Amazing what goes on behind closed doors when they think they’re being interviewed by one of their own.

    It was never clear to me whether the filmmaker set out with an agenda or simply let things unfold as they would and the story wrote itself.

    Either way, it’s one of a kind.

    • Thanks Pixel- it really is a good documentary movie. I was so impressed to see how a group of touring students from Israel were “minded” and totally insulated as they visited Poland, discouraged from actually talking to Poles after being told what anti-Semitic monsters they all were.

      • Chu says:

        The students were encouraged to believe the world hates them. If that’s not one key ingredient to ethnocentric indoctrination, I’m not sure what else is.

        • andrew r says:

          It was really creepy how the students kept having to watch footage of dead bodies, even through a hanging monitor on the bus. Jewish funerals don’t even show the person.

      • Charon says:

        The look on the students faces while they were in Poland, and the interview with the one girl about what she was feeling… maybe it’s just me but I sensed a conflict of sorts. Disbelief. Confusion. If it exists, it seems to disappear in adulthood.

    • maz says:

      Surprisingly, “Defamation” was available at my local library. Great documentary. The fact that the Defamation League wasn’t able to surpress the film is nothing short of amazing.

    • Denis says:

      Thanks, Pixel. Brilliant, brilliant flick. Brilliant film-maker, Yoav Shamir.

      The intensity of pedo-propaganda those beautiful Israeli kids are exposed to is amazing. With that level of brain washing, not one in 10 of them will grow into adults with the sort of objectivity Shamir has to sort these problems out. The film shows so many pathologically twisted Jews, like Foxman, it’s a shame to think that those young people will grow up to become more of the same.

      Shamir’s grandmother was the brightest point of hope in the whole flick. Wonderful woman.

      • Sumud says:

        Thanks, Pixel. Brilliant, brilliant flick. Brilliant film-maker, Yoav Shamir.

        Have you seen his earlier documentary from 2003 ‘Checkpoint’?

        Watch it if you want to see the true meaning of sumud. I wanted to strangle someone after 90 minutes. Palestinians have to live with the checkpoints permanently. I don’t know how they do it.

        Available to watch online here:

    • RE: “Another great time to plug Defamation… If you haven’t seen this 2009 video, it’s a must watch.” ~ Pixel

      FROM A FILM REVIEW BY GILAD ATZMON, 1/15/10:

      (excepts) I urge every person on this planet to watch Yoav Shamir’s “Defamation”, a documentary about anti-Semitism. . .
      …He provides us with some intimate footage of Israeli youth being indoctrinated into collective anxiety and total neurosis just before they join the IDF.
      The general image we are left with is no less than grotesque. The film elaborates on the aggressive vulgar orchestrated amplification of fear amongst Israelis and Zionist Jews. “We are raised to believe that we are hated” says an Israeli high school girl on her way to a concentration camp…
      …Shamir provides us with an opportunity to see how badly young Israelis behave once in Poland. You watch their contempt to the local population and disrespect to Polish people and institutes. You can also watch Israelis project their hatred onto others. For some reason they are convinced that everyone out there is as merciless as they happen to be. The Israeli youngsters are saturated with fear, yet, they are having a good time, you can watch them having a party dancing in a bus all the way to a Auschwitz. . .

      ENTIRE FILM REVIEW – link to gilad.co.uk
      “Defamation” can be streamed from Netflix (91 minutes) – link to movies.netflix.com
      “Defamation” is also on YouTube (VIDEO 1:31:18) – link to youtube.com

  7. Keith says:

    “And don’t call them anti-Semites unless they have a history of animus toward the Jewish people.”

    This is excellent advice for all of those Mondoweiss commenters who throughout much of their lives have been indoctrinated with the Holocaust religion and tales of eternal anti-Semitism. The cult of eternal victim-hood comes at a price. Time to move on.

    “The problem is that we have a Jewish organizational world whose business model is anti-Semitism, and there’s not enough of it in the United States.”

    Perceived anti-Semitism is the mother’s milk of Zionism and perceptions are malleable. Why else the extreme emphasis on Jewish suffering among people who have it relatively good? And what gives relatively well-off Jews the right to claim victim-hood status based upon the long ago suffering of others who happened to be Jewish? Why such a Judeo-centric focus? Manufactured anti-Semitism is an integral component of Zionism and of American Jewish support for Israel.

    “Nobody ever loses their job for getting up on the wrong side of the bed one morning, reading an op-ed they don’t like, and then saying that that person is an anti-Semite.”

    It seems to me that some Mondoweiss commenters have been a bit too casual with labeling someone or some comment as anti-Semitic. Personally, I haven’t encountered any obvious anti-Semitism on Mondoweiss, and I can’t conceive of Phil or Adam allowing that to occur.

    • Mooser says:

      There does seem to be a persistent minority of commenter on Mondoweiss who insists that either their Zionist or anti-Zionist views are buttressed by assigning racial characteristics to Jews or the Jewish mind.
      Bugs me no end! Bugs me equally to read about the intrinsically humane or liberal traditions of Judaism as it does to read those who assign a universal malignity against others to Jews.

      • Keith says:

        MOOSER- “There does seem to be a persistent minority of commenter on Mondoweiss who insists that either their Zionist or anti-Zionist views are buttressed by assigning racial characteristics to Jews or the Jewish mind.”

        I am not aware of any commenter who has assigned racial characteristics to Jews or the Jewish mind, however, I am aware of Judeo-Zionist ideology which assigns anti-Semitism as an intrinsic Gentile characteristic. I am also aware of Jewish Mondoweiss commenters who have apparently absorbed this ideological indoctrination and who assume that any Gentile questioning of this Judeo-Zionist ideology, Jewish success, Jewish power, etc, is a de facto anti-Semite, that is an intrinsic, irrational hater of Jews because they are Jews as evidenced by one (two? three?) crap-ass comments.

        “Bugs me equally to read about the intrinsically humane or liberal traditions of Judaism as it does to read those who assign a universal malignity against others to Jews.”

        It is quite apparent that this discussion bugs you. Perhaps you need to reflect upon why that is so? Both Judaism in its various manifestations and Zionism are ideologies which strongly influence the behavior of their followers. That Israel as a Jewish state would not exist without Zionism and the support of organized American Jewry makes a discussion of Judeo-Zionism and American Jewish power not only appropriate for Mondoweiss, but absolutely essential to understanding and resolving this issue. That you take such a discussion personal indicates that perhaps you have been influenced Judeo-Zionist ideology and that your Jewish-ness is more important to you than you let on. Perhaps you doth protest too much. I like you, Mooser, you can be hysterically funny, however, on this issue you have an extremely thin skin. And with your sharp tongue you can intimidate commenters merely trying to contribute to the discussion and doing the best they can with what they have to work with. Please try to give folks the benefit of the doubt. I leave you with a quote:

        “Therefore, the real test facing both Israeli and diaspora Jews is the test of their self-criticism which must include the critique of the Jewish past. The most important part of such a critique must be detailed and honest confrontation of the Jewish attitude to non-Jews… Although the struggle against antisemitism (and of all other forms of racism) should never cease, the struggle against Jewish chauvinism and exclusivism , which must include a critique of classical Judaism, is now of equal or greater importance.” (Israel Shahak)

  8. I just want to respond to this statement below that I include in quotes, my personal feelings as a non-Jewish American, to being called Anti Semitic for criticizing Israel, I was also once called a Nazi by a Jewish Israeli settler in the OPT (also an American citizen), the individual commenting that my name sounded of German origin. (My family (surname Munnerlyn) immigrated from Ireland to the US in the 1600′s.)

    “I want people, non-Jewish Americans, to have opinions about this like they have opinions about anything else. They may be wrong, they may be stupid, they may be ignorant. Let them have their opinions. And don’t call them anti-Semites unless they have a history of animus toward the Jewish people.”

    It makes me angry, to be accused of hate, when I am being critical of injustices of an Israeli Occupation that robs millions of Palestinians of their basic human rights every single day. At the same time, I wear the criticisms and name calling against me as a badge of honor, I am taking a stand speaking against injustice and the opposition I face is neither surprising nor unexpected. Uncomfortable truths about Israel are difficult for people to face. The response, for me, is to keep on speaking against the injustices of the Israeli Occupation of the OPT, as long as they continue. In God’s timing, I know the injustices of the Israeli Occupation of the land will come to an end, I feel certain about that. I very much agree with what Amira Haas had to say about all of this in a recent article discussed on this website. It simply looks more and more like this will all only come to an end with the Israeli Regime’s demise. And it is not about whether a two state or one state solution is best and the option chosen by anyone, it will be messy, whatever comes about in Israel/Palestine. Look at this fiasco right now, what they are doing, the lengths the Israeli government is going to, to stop peaceful international activists, from visiting Palestine. And I was just reading a few days ago here about attacks on and slaughter of sheep by the IDF, Israel is disclosing Foolishness for all the world to see. And Pride always comes before a fall, I find myself thinking about that, being reminded about that, all of the time. I think we all need to keep our eyes wide open and be ready to closely watch how far Israel will soon fall. Time is running out on all of this. You can sense it, feel it, smell it, in the air, even from as far away as America is from Israel/Palestine.

  9. libra says:

    Beinart: “I want people, non-Jewish Americans, to have opinions about this like they have opinions about anything else. They may be wrong, they may be stupid, they may be ignorant. Let them have their opinions.”

    This is just the sort of Noblesse oblige one expects from a truly self-confident ruling class. No wonder Phil seems obsessed with the man.

    • what? i really liked he said that. i have made this point before, it is an American conversation. link to mondoweiss.net , phil has made it too, here: link to mondoweiss.net

      The most important part of Beinart’s intervention is his acknowledgement of Jewish power. He is obviously going to talk about Jewish power in the U.S. establishment and surely will do some counting of Jews in prominent places. Good for him. Though the obvious problem with his “Zion Square” is that he calls this a “Jewish conversation.” This cannot be a Jewish conversation– particularly when it is hosted by Newsweek; no, it is an American conversation.

      it means do not limit this to jews only. let’s talk about it. we matter, we should not be stymied by fear of being called anti semites.

      • dbroncos says:

        As it is, Beinart gets more face time than any critic of Israel’s policies. Much of his critique is valueable even if his stated commitment to Zionism obscures his criticism. Let’s hope his transformation continues and that he’s not shoved off the podium before that transformation is allowed to take place.

      • libra says:

        Annie, my comment was really to Phil in the hope he would see the implicit message. But to be more explicit…

        Beinart, in a roundabout way, is saying Jewish Americans should slacken the noose to allow non-jews to express their opinion and let them join “the conversation”. This is pure condescension. “Let them have their opinions”. Beinart might just have well said “Let them eat cake.”

        Moreover, what Beinart advocates is the approach Mondoweiss has been taking for some time. But remember what happened earlier in the year. Suddenly the noose became a little too slack and it was swiftly tightened again, though ironically some the of the more prominent voices silenced were jewish.

        This approach just won’t work. The condescension is at the heart of the problem, both in the US and Israel. It’s the sign of someone who believes themselves to be better than “the other”. Israel will never find its proper place in the Middle East whilst its people believe they are intrinsically better than their neighbours, who vastly outnumber them. The US will continue on its downward trajectory whilst the dominant voice in its ruling class believes it is intrinsically better than the vast majority of citizens. The two situations are mirror images, even the population ratios are about the same. They are two sides of the same coin, minted out of a phoney exceptionalism.

      • Mooser says:

        “The most important part of Beinart’s intervention is his acknowledgement of Jewish power. “

        I think it is self defeating for Phil not immediately insist on a delineation between the Jewish and the Zionist. Is it really “Jewish power”? Or is it Zionist power, hiding behind Judaism? Accomplishment by Jews is not necessarily “Jewish power” unless the fruits of this accomplishment (money, influence) is directed at an object. Has Judaism done that, or has Zionism, hiding behind Judaism?

        I think that may be the most important distinction for American Jews (who are not first and foremost Zionists, not Zionists-by-pretense, or Zionist-by-inclusion) in freeing themselves from the idea that Judaism equal Zionism. Of course, you never know. American Jews may think a colonial project is the highest endeavor any religion could aspire to. After all, we are pretty much assimilated with our Gentile neighbors, sometimes by osmosis if not conscious effort.

  10. RE: “Nobody ever loses their job for getting up on the wrong side of the bed one morning, reading an op-ed they don’t like, and then saying that that person is an anti-Semite.” ~ Peter Beinart to Chemi Shalev in Haaretz

    MY COMMENT: Or perhaps saying that the person hates Israel with the “eroticized passion” of a “spurned lover”!

    SEE: THE NEOCONS CELEBRATE: WE GOT ROSENBERG, WE’LL GET YOU, by MJ Rosenberg, 4/10/12

    (excerpt). . . Then there is the “Israel Firster” issue, which particularly irked the right, especially “liberal Democrat” Alan Dershowitz.
    Here is what the famous OJ Simpson lawyer had to say about me leaving Media Matters in the Daily Caller:
    “Rosenberg was an extremist,” Dershowitz told the Daily Caller. “He didn’t engage in careful, nuanced critiques of Israel, which is fine. He engaged in hyperbole, name-calling. He just hated, hated, hated, with a passion, almost an eroticized passion of anything associated with Israel. He was like a spurned lover — irrational.” . . .

    ENTIRE POST – link to mjayrosenberg.com

    P.S. This surely must be one of the most bizarre statements ever made by Harvard’s Felix Frankfurter Professor of Law, Alan Dershowitz. Sheesh! Can he “talk some trash” or what?!?!
    What in the world did Justice Felix Frankfurter ever do to deserve this? What a travesty!

  11. RE: “When is someone going to lose his job for calling someone an anti-Semite?” ~ Weiss

    SEE: Gunter the Terrible, By Uri Avnery, Palestine Chronicle, 4/13/12

    Stop me if I have told you this joke before:
    Somewhere in the US, a demonstration takes place. The police arrive and beat the protesters mercilessly.
    “Don’t hit me,” someone shouts, “I am an anti-communist!”
    “I couldn’t give a damn what kind of a communist you are!” a policeman answers as he raises his baton.
    The first time I told this joke was when a German group visited the Knesset and met with German-born members, including me.
    They went out of their way to praise Israel, lauding everything we had been doing, condemning every bit of criticism, however harmless it might be. It became downright embarrassing
    , since some of us in the Knesset were very critical of our government’s policy in the occupied territories.
    For me, this extreme kind of pro-Semitism is just disguised anti-Semitism. Both have a basic belief in common: that Jews – and therefore Israel – are something apart, not to be measured by the standards applied to everybody else. . .

    ENTIRE COMMENTARY – link to palestinechronicle.com

  12. Denis says:

    Thank you, Philip. This is a very worthwhile conversation.

    I remember in 1982 when I began a post-doc at Harvard’s BioLabs, every day I walked past the Harvard Semitic Museum on Divinity Ave. I was shocked when a friend pointed out that the Semitic Museum was supported largely by Arab money. Until then I had never realized that “Semite” does not refer to only Jews, it refers to, well . . . a) descendants of Shem, and/or b) those who speak one of the many Semitic languages. IOW, Palestinians, Arabs, Assyrians, Jews are all Semites.

    This is why I refer to the Middle East as “squabbling Semites.” Basically, it’s same-old, same-old internecine fighting that has been on-going for thousands of years but is now operating on a nuclear scale that threatens the entire world.

    But with respect to the slur “anti-Semite,” given that the Palestinians are Semites, when Bibi sics the Occupation Forces on the Palestinians and rips down Palestinian homes, who is the anti-Semite?

    When Occupation Forces screw with Palestinians and make their lives miserable day in and day out, who is the anti-Semite?

    When Chuck Schumer advocates the “strangulation” of Palestine, who is the anti-Semite?

    When the IDF uses F-16s to execute Hamas guys in Gaza in order to precipitate a retaliation so the IDF can test drive Iron Dome, who is the anti-Semite?

    Somebody needs to take the term “anti-Semite” and push it down Abe Foxman’s throat. Maybe then he’ll stop being an anti-Semite.

    • Mooser says:

      “This is why I refer to the Middle East as “squabbling Semites.” Basically, it’s same-old, same-old internecine fighting that has been on-going for thousands of years but is now operating on a nuclear scale that threatens the entire world.”

      Wow, that’s a whole lot of trouble for Israel to cause, considering it just got there in ’48. What did those barbarous war-loving Semites do until Israel showed up? Pretend it was there? Anything to keep that “same-old internecine fighting that has been on-going for thousands of years”

      Oh, BTW Denis, an awful lot of people who comment here seem top claim the Jews who settled in Palestine (and took over) as Zionists are Europeans. So how does that square with your ‘internecine thousand year Semite fighting’ thesis.
      Maybe they came from Europe, but underneath, they were those same old Biblical Semites, huh?

      I just love it when the spurious is piled on spurious!

  13. Wisdo says:

    Anti-semitism. That currency has been debased by overuse. Its value is lost. Nowadays if someone is called an anti-semite by David Harris or Jeffry Goldberg, I rush to read their valuable contribution to the debate on Israels colonial expansion. Do I get an icky white supremacist gushing about “the Jew”? hardly ever. Never in fact. The self evidently anti-semitic or bigoted dont need to be labelled as such, its evident to anyone.

    If anyone were to lose their job over an oversensitivity to bigotry I would be more worried than if they lost their job to an undersensitivity to the same ugly ideology.

    Rush Limbaugh gets to keep up a steady flow of insensitive racism, homophobia and mysogyny – I’d rather he lost his job than the Atlantic’s Jeffry Goldberg, say. But I’d much, much rather both lost their readership than their jobs.

  14. Chaos4700 says:

    Why even bother asking this question, at this point, Phil? The answer hasn’t been made painfully obvious? By the articles you’ve ALREADY posted here? Should I start with where funding for the Democratic Party comes from in huge swaths, for starters?