At Youtube: “Israeli soldiers out of uniform violently detaining a Palestinian at Checkpoint 56, Tel Rumeida, Hebron”
Abir Kopty of the Popular Struggle Coordination Committee states:
The video shows a group of soldiers out of uniform beating Abd-Elaziz Elfakhouri (20) who was protesting the detention of his colleague taken by the same group of soldiers, and dragged into a house.
The soldiers gathered around the man and started beating him. He was shortly pushed and shoved down the hill towards the same building where the soldiers were still holding Elfakhouri’s friend behind closed doors. Elfakhouri was dropped to the ground and dragged across the concrete.
More soldiers came to the area and started shoving people away declaring it a Closed Military Zone, as one soldier out of uniform tried to steal several witnesses’ cameras and passports. In one case the soldier managed to take one passport and ran down the hill hiding amongst other soldiers. The soldiers kept the passport for 35 minutes and then handed it over to Israeli police officers while saying “Make sure to write down his name for the airport, so he can’t come back here.”
Elfakhouri and his friend were eventually put in military jeeps and taken to the military base even though police were present.
Issa Amr, coordinator of Youth Against Settlements says: “This is not the first case, in the last month we documented cases of soldiers out of uniform beating and detaining Palestinians. Whether uniformed or not, there is no accountability to the soldiers; when a soldier killed a woman and her daughter in Gaza in 2009, he was only sentenced for 45 days. Soldiers get the message that they have a free hand.”
The report at Youtube from Palreports Khalil states the following:
A Palestinian man was detained by soldiers at checkpoint 56 and dragged into a house were they closed the door. Another Palestinian, a teenager, protested against this just as a group of soldiers out of uniform came jogging by. They immediately went for the young Palestinian protesting the detainment and started wrestling him to the ground in an efford to detain him as well. As they were wrestling him one soldier kicked him while another hit him with his hand. The soldiers proceded to carry him down the hill towards the same building where they still kept the first detained Palestinian behind closed doors. As they went they dropped the young Palestinian man to the ground but just kept on dragging him across the concrete. More soldiers came to the area and started shoving people away declaring it a Closed Military Zone (CMZ), but refusing to show the papers they are required to have in order to create a CMZ. One soldier out of uniform tried to steal several witnesses camera and passport and succeded in one case, after which he ran down the hill hiding amongst the other soldiers. The soldiers kept the passport for 35 minutes at which point they handed it over to the police, saying “Make sure to write down his name for the airport, so he can’t come back here”, referring to the many solidarity activists who has been registrered and banned from entering Israel. The two Palestinian men were put into military jeeps and taken to the military base even though the police were present.
Typical. How much you want to bet that Fredo will be by soon to tell us how it was all justified, even the way the cockroach in the black sleeveless shirt kicked the helpless man?
RE: “Typical. How much you want to bet that Fredo will be by soon to tell us how it was all justified. . .” ~ Woody Tanaka
ALSO SEE: “Firebomb injures 5 Palestinians; police say Jews behind attack”, by Itamar Fleishman, Ynet News, 8/16/12
ENTIRE ARTICLE – link to ynetnews.com
P.S. AND SEE: “Fighting Settlers’ Impunity and Immunity”, by Pierre Klochendler, Inter Press Service, 12/16/11
ENTIRE ARTICLE – link to original.antiwar.com
P.P.S. RE: “. . . the report found the Israeli government guilty of ‘institutional lawbreaking’… The report recommended criminal investigation against those allegedly involved in the scheme, but it was shelved.” ~ Klochendler (in the above-excerpted article)
LOUIS BRANDEIS ON THE ‘BLOWBACK’ RESULTING FROM “INSTITUTIONAL LAWBREAKING” BY GOVERNMENTS:
Supreme Court Justice Louis D. Brandeis elaborated in Olmstead v. United States (1928):
P.S. ALSO SEE: “The Rise of Settler Terrorism; The West Bank’s Other Violent Extremists”, by Daniel Byman and Natan Sachs, foreignaffairs.com, 8/14/12
ENTIRE ARTICLE – link to foreignaffairs.com
OT, United Church of Canada reaffirms motion for boycott of goods made by settlements on the West Bank and in East Jerusalem. CANADIAN ZIONISTS OUTRAGED AT LATEST BDS VICTORY:
Compared to this the Wild West or the Stone Age has been a heaven of civility!
But there will be a time of reckoning and accounting…….
The “youth” you are referring to in the video are soldiers on a fitness run or who were exercising, who got caught up in this altercation. Looked to me like reasonable force was used.
Bullshit. The vermin in the black sleeveless shirt kicks the fellow twice, it appears in the head. This is reasonable?
To Woody Tanaka: ” …The vermin in the black sleeveless shirt kicks the fellow twice, it appears in the head. This is reasonable?”
It’s reasonable to a Zionist.
Gilag is an arrogant racist thug. No humanity left in him. Done deal. The same applies to these allegedly off duty soldiers. Drag that kid across the cement for questioning. I want to know what went on in that building.
Art Gish talked about these type of incidents for decades. Settler spitting on Palestinian children etc. When you see it in a video clip sure hopes drive the brutal injustice home
Wow, gilad, you are a lame and feeble excuser for thugs and fascists who have got the message: you can do what you like to palestinians, in fact we encourage it, and you will never be held to account. That is what passes for ‘reasonable force’ in your twisted world.
justicewillprevail, try and be a little more generous toward the disabled. I mean, look, you’re dealing with somebody who doesn’t even know what a picture (let alone a video) is worth in comparison to his words.
You know, it can’t be everybody gets their allotted “15 points IQ”
Yeah, right gildag. Can’t determine much from the short clip but Elfakhouri is not seen doing anything to warrant what he receives– all the force comes from the brown-shirts, err I mean Israelis. I count 10 Israelis against one Palestinian. Says a lot about you that you view it as “reasonable”.
It’s a great metaphor. Evidence suggests Zionists values their own lives lives at least 10x more worthy than Palestinians based on comparative prison sentences, number of civilians killed in conflict, etc. “An eye for an eye” is now 10 eyes for an eye. “Beacon of freedom” indeed.
10x more worthy? Operation Cast Lead indicates it’s over 100x.
Think about that. The U.S. Constitution originally had blacks at 3/5 of a white man. We’re talking here about 1 part of 100.
I hear ya Ranjit, but I wanted the comparison to hold up over several categories, e.g. children killed by “terrorism” vs God’s chosen army. link to ifamericansknew.org
That’s why I did say “at least 10x”.
Looked to me like a lynching.
Giladg in self destruction slow mo mode. Pure pleasure to watch..
The Israeli soldiers should stop pretending to be civilians or disguising themselves as civilians as they take militant actions.
giladg August 16, 2012 at 4:55 pm
“….who got caught up in this altercation”
You watching the same video?
“Looked to me like reasonable force was used”
I guess not..
soldiers on a fitness run or who were exercising
source?
Looked the same to me as well, typical attire, the t-shorts they are wearing .
iow, no source just a personal judgement call these guys were “exercising”.
that’s some hella exercise if you ask me, but then..you didn’t.
Don’t remember having beat up an arab in the daily exercise roster.
Would love to hear the exchange of words prior to the beating up part though.
Jus’ Zionist thugs out for the morning pogrom, right?
so this is what you consider a pogrom huh ColinWright?
The “youths” are soldiers in T-shirts. They used the standard IDF tactic. 1) provoke a violent altercation; 2) isolate one protester; 3) abduct him.
The goal, like all Israel’s state terrorism, is to make an example of one Palestinian in order to intimidate everybody else.
Soldiers during their training run make an arrest. And Annie – your asking for “source” is very amusing. Thanks.
BTW the caption of the video says” Israeli soldiers out of uniform…..”.
Also @ Woody- next time you or anyone else make a comment about white Jews vs. brown Palestinians, just watch this video again and count how many brown, black and white soldiers were there.
during their training run
source? none i presume. they had outfits on..therefore they are innocent!
Any says: “…during their training run
source?”
I’m sure this is routine behavior. Finish up with a nice beating of a Palestinian and then go take a shower. A healthy, vigorous work-out for the members of the master race. Why do you want a source?
…kicking people probably is good exercise. Seems like it would be. Wear proper equipment, of course (I’d recommend heavy boots). Perhaps Israeli physiologists could research this for us.
Colin, Alas, it certainly has become routine; when either side is unable or unwilling to put itself in the position of the other, atrocity and violence becoming all but inevitable is a tenet of psychopathology.
Nick says: “Colin, Alas, it certainly has become routine; when either side is unable or unwilling to put itself in the position of the other, atrocity and violence becoming all but inevitable is a tenet of psychopathology.”
Don’t try to give me that equivalency crap. The Zionists leave and this ends. Until then, it will go on — because this is what Zionism is.
Colin, It’s not a question of equivalency, crap or otherwise, but if you insist on remaining ‘down there’ on one side or the other then you become one part of the problem. The Zionists leave and this ends… Fine, but how do you imagine that might come about?
While it is obviously important to catalogue these horrors, I find myself wondering at the lack of anything that might lead to a realistic non-violent solution. In Jungian psychology an inherited pattern of thought derived from collective cultural experience becomes lodged in the unconscious. It seems to me that young Palestinians, even those who throw stones or resist the mistreatment of a friend, are more like the rest of us than these young thugs, and that their subconscious attitudes towards their oppressors are highly likely to be amenable to normalization were their circumstances to change. But I have no confidence that would be true of Zionists.
While I see that BDS and the attendant awakening of the Western public may one day force Israel to retreat, I cannot imagine that resulting in anything like a non-violent future for either side. Obviously internal Israeli tolerance/encouragement has allowed this situation to become what it is and that tolerance itself operates under US protection, but even were one to find a way through the records of American Idol winners and Kim Kardashian’s tweets to reach some area where the US conscience might be aroused, how might that actually result in peace? You may consider such speculations fanciful but without a practical, even hypothetical, alternative the entire world faces a really serious problem. I would not call Israel a cancer but the situation in that neck of the woods in cancerous. Or do you think, like the Euro, it should be left to the chaos of improvised decisions?
Nick says: “… I would not call Israel a cancer but the situation in that neck of the woods in cancerous…”
I would call Israel a cancer — and I would say the situation in that neck of the woods is cancerous on account of that particular cancer.
Not that all would be sweetness and light absent Israel — but I see no reason to think it would be worse than it is in any other part of the non-First World, like Latin America, say, or Southeast Asia.
Perhaps the whole thing will be subsumed within the fall of the barbaric monarchies in the KSA, Bahrain, Qatar, Kuwait, and the United Arab Emirates, something that would surely resolve the Palestinian issue and that we just might see by this time next year.
That’s a typical fitness exercise I use to do- you put on civilian clothes, one person keeps his rifle for the security and the group goes for a run around its base in adjacent area. What “source” your re asking about?
Hey Dim, did you ever beat up children for ‘fitness’?
They are the same age both soldiers and the “child”. Some “child” I might say- isn’t same “children ” serve as US Marines?
yeah annie, the fact that they were all wearing the same emblem on their shirt means nothing, no reason to actually use deductive reasoning skills here huh?
Merk August 17, 2012 at 12:48 am
“the fact that they were all wearing the same emblem on their shirt means nothing”
Ziocaine makes you see so called ‘facts’ … amazing stuff !! Only two have the same emblem.
“no reason to actually use deductive reasoning skills here huh?”
No skills at all needed to lie for a Greater Israel.
Annie,
Elliot provided the context here. It’s the usual procedure that takes place on a daily basis.
Elliot wrote: The “youths” are soldiers in T-shirts. They used the standard IDF tactic. 1) provoke a violent altercation; 2) isolate one protester; 3) abduct him.
The goal, like all Israel’s state terrorism, is to make an example of one Palestinian in order to intimidate everybody else.”
To dimodok: “…Soldiers during their training run make an arrest…”
Correction: shy soldiers make an arrest. The guy who noticed was very upset that it was all being filmed. That probably cut into how much fun they were able to have with their victim once they got him inside.
‘Aww…you mean it’s on film that we dragged him in here? We can’t beat him half to death and then deny we had anything to do with it? Why didn’t you break the camera? What’s wrong with you?’
No Stanley Kubrick allowed to film the ultraviolence!
Those brave soldiers (droogs) should get arrested:
link to youtube.com
And then get some treatment (Ludvig van Beethoven):
link to youtube.com
“Alex: You needn’t take it any further, sir. You’ve proved to me that all this ultraviolence and killing is wrong, wrong, and terribly wrong. I’ve learned me lesson, sir.”
Droogs “during their training run”:
link to youtube.com
Who the devil cares about brown vs. white? Is one side defined by blood, by ancestry, by genetic heritage and the other defined as falling outside that group on account of heredity?
That’s all that matters. If you define some men as more worthy of respect than others only on account of parentage then you’re barbaric and pre-modern. Actually, there’s no “if – then” statement here. Dimadok, you are barbaric and pre-modern, full stop.
Actually I do not care about who’s color is which. But since it is a reccurring theme here I thought it would be educational to bring it up.
“Soldiers during their training run make an arrest.”
Are they soldiers or policeman, dimadok? Say, you wanna look at countries where those two jobs are combined? My God, bragging that soldiers are used as policeman on civilians. That’s smart!
Again joke is on you- in any area where IDF has the full authority they are legal and obliged to intervene and make an arrest.
“Again joke is on you- in any area where IDF has the full authority they are legal and obliged to intervene and make an arrest.”
That is a good joke. Funny how they were so concerned that the ‘arrest’ not be filmed, isn’t it?
By the way, has the IDF done anything about arresting the perpetrators of that fire-bombing — since they are obliged to make arrests and all? You know, the even scales of Israeli justice in action.
Check the news sites- Ynet,Haaretz
Certainly was a training run – in how to deal with an uppity Palestinian.
The individual yelling at the camera person sure did not want that behavior taped
No uniforms/insignia = illegal belligerents. Terrorists beat and kidnap Palestinian.
No uniform and during their active duty- legal action. Haven’t you heard about policeman making an arrest while in vacation or while wearing civilian clothes?
there were more ppl filming this than there were ppl involved. kinda curious to anyone?
Why aren’t you more curious about the track record of IDF abuses and the sham of accountablity in the OT?
As if this incident is taking place in a vaccuum.
Yesh Din, B’tSelem, HRW, AI, etc. etc. all corroborate these kinds of stories. So there is a well-established context for believing.
Whereas the Israeli-constructed/colonial mentality that all the natives ‘lie’ (i.e., Pallywood) is full of ****.
Curious as to how you reached that stunning conclusion Merk.
‘there were more ppl filming this than there were ppl involved. kinda curious to anyone?’
So if it’s not filmed, it didn’t happen, and if it is filmed, it’s a set up. Funny thing is, it takes two to tango. You could film me for months, and while you might get some stuff Mooser would enjoy, there wouldn’t be much to take to the court of world opinion.
If they were multiple cameras, good move. That would explain why the soldier didn’t dare to assault the first photographer. Just think of the fix Israel would be in if all her actions were filmed.
“Go beck! Go beck”
Typical. The world should not see what is going on.
RE: “Video: Israeli youths violently detain Palestinian under eyes of soldiers”
ALSO SEE: “Firebomb injures 5 Palestinians; police say Jews behind attack”, by Itamar Fleishman, Ynet News, 8/16/12
ENTIRE ARTICLE – link to ynetnews.com
P.S. ALSO SEE: “Palestinian taxi hit by fire-bomb in West Bank, by BBC News, 8/17/12
ENTIRE ARTICLE – link to bbc.co.uk