The Coalition Against Racism in Israel has an important article up in Hebrew. Sol Salbe translation, thanks to Ofer Nieman.
“Israel came first in an international physics competition, and it is trying to reach the same benchmark in racism”
On 20 September 2012 Israel Hayom published an article under the headline “Quantum of success.” It highlighted the success of the Israeli delegation from Ilan Ramon Centre at Ben-Gurion University in a competition held at the Institute of Physics in Warsaw.
The article contained the names of the winners, but not all of them…
It mentioned the first prize winner (Yuval Katznelson) and one of third prize winners (May Alon). The article quotes Professor Victor Malamud, head of the Ilan Ramon Centre at BGU, which coordinates efforts for the competition as saying that “We succeeded in showing the world the potential of the Jewish mind.”
On the surface, a cause for Jewish pride, indeed..
But what about the second place getter in the competition? The two second place winners, Magd Alfrawona and Alfarook Abu Alhassan were not mentioned at all. Probably because they don’t have a Jewish mind, or because they are Arabs …
What is the message that such articles give to the general public? What is the message that head of the program is providing to the students?
The conclusion is inescapable. Instead of being proud of all those who represented the country and impel them further forward, there is a very clear delineation between the Arab and Jewish participants. This is not all that far from our reality which is full of physical and virtual fences marking the separation between the two peoples.
This statement is racist for several reasons: it ignores some of the delegation’s winners, solely because of cultural/social/national differences. This statement tries to establish the superiority of some participants over others on the sole basis of their national affiliation. In addition to all this, the article tries to obliterate the Arab presence in the delegation, and their success. This is despite the writers being aware of a different picture being presented on the university’s English-language website (there the two Arab winners are mentioned, and they also appear in the team photo published in the newspaper).
It is a pity that a lecturer in such a distinguished university professor chose to speak in such a racist fashion as he did. We hope he’ll get his comeuppance when the university launches an inquiry and takes disciplinary proceedings against him, and those responsible for this letdown.
This article proves once again that academia is not free of racism …
Names of participants and winners here.
Israel Hayom article, in English and Hebrew.
Translated by Sol Salbe of the Middle East News Service Melbourne, Australia
Hebrew original: link to fightracism.org
P.S. Richard Silverstein is on the story, too.
It is a pity that a lecturer in such a distinguished university professor chose to speak in such a racist fashion as he did. We hope he’ll get his comeuppance when the university launches an inquiry and takes disciplinary proceedings against him, and those responsible for this letdown.
well, jeez, there is just so much crap packed into that quote, it’s about to burst. it isn’t a ‘pity’, as if herr doktor malamud spoke out of character, it is common practice that palestinians are discriminated against in the educational system. and in a country where the murder of palestinians is excused, it would be a surprise to see any consequence for someone speaking the national language of zionism. this is also the perfect counterexample for those who blather on about the objective brilliance of ‘scientists’ and the inevitable progress of a society based on the sciences. here was an opportunity to exploit and explain that palestinians are able to excel in israeli society, if ‘they put their mind to it’, but instead the natural thing for malamud to do was to click his heels and give his version of the hitler salute, and then promptly step into a steaming pile of his own sh*t. D-U-M.
link to hrw.org
Does this mark the return of Jewish Physics courtesy of the Ben-Gurion University?
If so, I can only hope that at least Professor Ellis appreciates the irony.
That kind of behaviour is really shoddy. Promoting third when the second is a Palestinian. It’s petty and vindictive.
The cost of mass indoctrination is that there are fewer Zionist Jews who can think for themselves. It must be very difficult for the smarter ones who make their way abroad and figure out the system in Israel from there.
Really I didn’t think the Israelis could surprise me much anymore, but. . .
Racism is a universal phenomenon. It is when it is institutionalized that it becomes most dangerous, and when institutions discourage it that it becomes least harmful. Such irony to have been taught that lesson as a young person by American Jews leading Civil Rights movement, and today seeing it practiced in Israel. But not good irony.
There is something more to it, I think. By denying the accomplishments of non-Jews and so limiting their advancement, you create the reality of Chosenness so necessary for tribe worship. It was wrong when the Poles and Hungarians did it and it’s wrong for I/P.
Expected.
Palestine and Palestinians cannot be seen to exist. They must not be acknowledged in any way. Tug at any of the myriad of loose ends and the Hasbara will unravel ….
I read this foolish article by Philip Weiss where he has been spoon fed some completely wrong information by Sol Salbe. They have confused the results from the initial Israeli leg of the competition with the final in Warsaw.
The Israel Hayom article is a short human interest piece which has mentioned the ‘third’ place getter besides the Israeli winners of the international competition.
If anybody takes the trouble to go to the official website for the competition link to info.ifpan.edu.pl the results are there as plain as day. In fact there is only one category of prize, no concept of first, second or third prize. Other awards are categorized as honorable mentions. There were two Israelis who received actual prizes – Hanimov and Katsnelson.
To be milking this story for racial criticism of Israel is totally false and wrong. In fact the author of this sop to Israel bashers should take the blame for unnecessarily stirring up racial hatred and antagonism. Shame!
Israel happily takes the opportunity to highlight how Israeli-Arabs succeed in Israeli society.
Refer link to en.wikipedia.org to read about how Arabs are represented in political, judicial and military positions in Israel.
Notice how you evade the central issue: the fact that Israeli’s and ethnocentric Jews throughout the Diaspora regularly return to rhetoric about the “Jewish mind”, “Jewish genius”, and the like. There’s no mistaking it – there is a definite narrative within the community that Jews are inherently more intellectually gifted than other groups. When you combine this attitude with the Israeli subjugation, dehumanization, and ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians, you have the most odious instance of state-sponsored racial supremacy in the world today.
@Ranjit
Interesting that they don’t have a problem with these positive generalizations, but if someone makes a negative generalization it’s automatically antisemitism…
I’m certainly not advocating making unflattering generalizations about groups of people, but the subset of American Jews who routinely engage in this should recognize what they’re opening the door to by promoting “Jewish exceptionalism” tropes. You can’t have it both ways…
Jews can be justifiably proud of their achievements. It is completely normal for any ethnic group to laud the successes of its members.
‘israeli’ is not an ethnic group, dumkopf, it’s a nationality that includes arabs, christians, etc. or does it?
Marc b.
In fact, there is no such person as an “Israeli.” Israel is the only country in the world that differentiates between citizenship and nationality. All citizens of Israel carry an identity card that designates them as “Jewish” or non-Jewish. Needless to say, this odious practice further confirms the racist nature of Israel and Zionism.
Mayhem says:
Jews can be justifiably proud of their achievements. It is completely normal for any ethnic group to laud the successes of its members.”">>>>
It’s not normal when they try to claim credit for things they didn’t create, do or accomplish.
It’ s particularly not normal and is unattractive and abnormal when Jews who do this try to denigrate non Jews to make their tribe appear better or superior in some way.
I would refer you to my comment in response to Phil claiming that Jew value learning more than gentiles and gentiles ‘gravitate” to Jewish learning.
Note that Jews did not establish the leading universities in America.
The only colleges Jews have established on their own are listed below and do not attract gentile students at all.
On the other hand Jews are always trying to get into elite universities established by gentiles.
Evidently you have no idea how most people regard ” braggarts”. particularly when they don’t know what their talking about…it’s a total turn off. If you want to brag about yourself/selves pick something specific you actually accomplished.
Reply to Phil..
”Do Jews value learning more than lesser mortals? I don’t think so.
“If” Jews did always and do value it more than Gentiles where are all their Jewish created elite and renown Ivies?
Why are they wanting to go our Ivies created by Gentiles who value learning less than Jews for educational creds?:….it’s a mystery.
Harvard
Harvard was established by the Unitarian clergy. Harvard’s curriculum and students became secular throughout the 18th century and by the 19th century had emerged as the central cultural establishment among Boston elites
In 1945–1960 admissions policies were opened up to bring in students from a more diverse applicant pool. No longer drawing mostly from rich alumni of select New England prep schools, the undergraduate college was now open to striving middle class students from public schools; many more Jews and Catholics were admitted, but few blacks, Hispanics or Asians
Brown
Brown owes its founding to the support of the Baptist Church association
Yale
Elija Yale who provided the original seed money for Yale was a Wlesh Anglican/Protestant with East India Company
Columbia Univ.
The university was founded in 1754 as King’s College by royal charter of George II of Great Britain.
Cornell
Ezra Cornell was a birthright Quaker, but was later married a Methodist. White, his co-founder of Cornell was a Episcopaian.
Dartmouth
Dartmouth College was established in 1769 by Congregational minister Eleazar Wheelock. One of the nine Colonial colleges etablished before the Revolution.
Princeton
New Light Presbyterians founded the College of New Jersey, later Princeton University, in 1746 in order to train ministers. The college was the educational and religious capital of Scots-Irish America. In 1756, the college moved to Princeton, New Jersey. Its home in Princeton was Nassau Hall, named for the royal house of William III of England
Univ of Pennsylvania
Benjamin Franklin, Penn’s founder, advocated an educational program that focused as much on practical education for commerce and public service as on the classics and theology. Penn was one of the first academic institutions to follow a multidisciplinary model pioneered by several European universities.
Why aren’t Jews like Phil going to their Jewish established colleges in the US if people who love learning gravitate to the Jewish because they value learning more than non Jews?:…it must be another one of those mysteries:
Sperytus
The Spertus Institute of Jewish Studies is a leading center for Jewish learning and culture in Chicago, Illinois
Yeshiva
Students at Yeshiva College pursue a dual educational program that combines liberal arts and sciences and pre-professional studies with the study of Torah and Jewish heritage
The Karaite Jewish University
Is a non-profit corporation incorporated in California, U.S.A., in November 2005 for the purposes of disseminating the study of Karaite Judaism. Karaite Jewish University is not accredited as an academic institution.
The Jewish Theological Seminary of America
JTS or JTSA) is one of the academic and spiritual centers of Conservative Judaism, and a major center for academic scholarship in Jewish studies. JTS operates five schools: Albert A. List College of Jewish Studies (which is affiliated with Columbia University and offers joint/double bachelors degree programs with both Columbia and Barnard College); The Graduate School; the William Davidson Graduate School of Jewish Education; the H. L. Miller Cantorial School and College of Jewish Music; and The Rabbinical School.
The Hebrew Union College-Jewish Institute of Religion
The College-Institute) is the oldest extant Jewish seminary in the Americas[1] and the main seminary for training rabbis, cantors, educators and communal workers in Reform Judaism
Hebrew College
I1s an accredited college of Jewish studies in Newton Centre, near Boston, Massachusetts. Founded in 1921, Hebrew College is committed to Jewish scholarship in a transdenominational academic environment. The president of the college is Rabbi Daniel Lehmann.
Gratz College
Is a general college of Jewish studies founded in 1895 offering a broad array of credentials and programs in virtually every area of higher Judaic learning to aspiring Jewish educators/
Baltimore Hebrew University
Was founded as Baltimore Hebrew College and Teachers Training School in 1919 to promote Jewish scholarship and academic excellence, it continues to be the only institution of higher learning in Maryland devoted solely to all aspects of Judaic and Hebraic studies.
The American Jewish University, formerly the separate institutions University of Judaism and Brandeis-Bardin Institute, is a Jewish, non-denominational educational institution in Los Angeles, California.
Brandeis
Founded in 1948 as a nonsectarian Jewish-sponsored coeducational institution on the site of the former Middlesex University. The university is named for Louis Brandeis (1856–1941), the first Jewish Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States
(Jewish college listings from Wiki
Misterioso, this used to be the case, but since 2005 is no longer true. The card used to denote ethnicity/religion as Jewish, Arab, Druze, Circassian, etc.
Currently Jews may voluntarily choose to have the date on the card printed using the Jewish calendar date which would indicate their religion, but this isn’t compulsory.
That said, prior to 2005 it was possible to have no religion/ethnic affiliation indicated on the ID card if you chose. Whatever was written there, it did not have an effect on what kind if services you were entitled to. I don’t see why you consider it odious or a confirmation of racism inherent in Israel/Zionism.
Nor do I understand your assertion that there is no such person as an “Israeli.” Obviously, Israelis are Israeli.
American,
While I do not agree with the somewhat gross statement that Jewish people inherently value learning more than gentile people, (nor do I even find it to be a statement worthy of refuting), you must realize that the logic of your counter-argument is itself deeply flawed.
Your entire argument hinges on the assumption that the sole variable as to which groups started our most elite universities is that of “valuing learning.” Clearly a lot more goes into ensuring the success of any university and especially those of Ivy League caliber.
In that case, acceptance into the Ivy League connotes belonging to the athletic organization of the same name, and while it has come to signify the best of our elite academic institutions, that isn’t really what the term indicates and there are plenty of schools of equivalent caliber among the non-ivies. This history matters, because out of the 8 ivy league schools, 7 of them were established before the Revolutionary War.
In other words, it seems unlikely that Jews would have been too deeply involved in the creation of institutions that were for the most part built before there were really any Jews living in America. By the time significant waves of Jews began immigrating to the US, these universities were already established as the preeminent institutions.
So a better way of testing Jews’ commitment to academia would be to look at the history of their engagement with the academic structure that already existed when they arrived. The history of Jews’ acceptance and enrollment in numbers that far outstripped what their miniscule numbers would suggest is already well known.
“By 1919, about 80% of the students at New York’s Hunter and City colleges were Jews, and 40% at Columbia. Jews at Harvard tripled to 21% of the freshman class in 1922 from about 7% in 1900. Ivy League Jews won a disproportionate share of academic prizes and election to Phi Beta Kappa but were widely regarded as competitive, eager to excel academically and less interested in extra-curricular activities such as organized sports. Non-Jews accused them of being clannish, socially unskilled and either unwilling or unable to“fit in.”
link to jewishvirtuallibrary.org
The subsequent anti-semitic quota system established at Harvard sought to limit Jews’ rising dominance during the time when acceptance to the Ivies was based on a purer meritocracy than it is today. Eventually these numbers were held at bay via schools’ practice of leaning more heavily on legacy candidates than before, which allowed for greater diversity without admitting to the uncomfortable existence of racially based quotas.
“Notice how you evade the central issue: the fact that Israeli’s and ethnocentric Jews throughout the Diaspora regularly return to rhetoric about the “Jewish mind”, “Jewish genius”, and the like. ” (Ranjit Suresh)
At the same time, you have the rhetoric being pushed about the “Arab Mind” and the “Muslim Mind”. Raphael Patai did a lot of damage with his eroneous theory and book about the Arab mind and until recently, it still served as a training manual for American military and police officers. So in parallel with the disparaging of the Arab mentality, which include the Palestinians of course, you are being force-fed on the merits of the Jewish one. Geller’s subway ads are a good example.
In the words of Margaret Atwood:
“… Once you start calling other people by vermin names such as “vipers,” you imply their extermination. To name just one example, such labels were applied wholesale to the Tutsis months before the Rwanda massacre began. Studies have shown that ordinary people can be led to commit horrors if told they’ll be acting in self-defense, for “victory,” or to benefit mankind. ”
It isn’t any wonder the West hardly reacts to what’s been happening to the Palestinians. Getting back to Patai, Wiki has this on him:
The Arab Mind is a non-fiction cultural psychology book by cultural anthropologist Raphael Patai, who also wrote The Jewish Mind. The book advocates a tribal-group-survival explanation for the driving factors behind Arab culture. It was first published in 1973, and later revised in 1983. A 2007 reprint was further “updated with new demographic information about the Arab world”.
The book came to public attention in 2004 after investigative journalist Seymour Hersh writing for the New Yorker magazine revealed that the book was “the bible of the neocons on Arab behavior” to the effect that it was the source of the idea held by the US military officials responsible for the Abu Ghraib scandal that “Arabs are particularly vulnerable to sexual humiliation”.
Walid says: “…the idea held by the US military officials responsible for the Abu Ghraib scandal that “Arabs are particularly vulnerable to sexual humiliation”.
Comic when you think about it. The inference is that the rest of us can just take sexual humiliation in stride.
I read this foolish article by Philip Weiss … blah, blah, blah
you must take us for fools with that weak line of hooey. the esteemed professor ‘disappeared’ two of the honorees with his racial supremacist statement about the jewish mind, at least one newspaper has misidentified a placed palestinian honoree with the name of an israeli jewish honoree, and the whole tenor of the national ‘celebration’ is a celebration of the exceptionalism of ‘the jews’. it’s as if americans universally applauded the brilliance of the ‘white’ mind in the history of american technological innovation, ignoring the contributions of asian-americans and other minorities. the focus on the ‘jewish’ mind in the context of these awards is simply racist and inaccurate. and if you want to read a link about the ‘successes’ of israeli arabs in ‘israeli society’, why don’t you go to my link above about the disparate treatment of arab israelis in the educational system. ‘separate and unequal’. does that ring a bell?
Read “The Other Side of Israel” by Susan Nathan.
“Rather than accept my view,consider the school funding figures for 2001 published by the Central Bureau of Statistics in 2004.
Each Arab student in Israel received resources -after teacher,s salaries had been excluded-of £105 a year, less than a quarter of the sum, £485 spent on Jewish pupils in secular state schools.
The State discriminated yet further in allocations to Jewish religious schools, where each pupil was getting resources worth £1,340, or twelve times as much as an Arab pupil.
This has been achieved by a duplicitous system of double funding that allows religious Jewish schools to apply for funding from both the education ministry and the Religious affairs ministry.
Almost no funds are available for the funding of non Jewish religious schools.
Page 93 (bottom), page 95.
RE: “On 20 September 2012 Israel Hayom published an article. . . It highlighted the success of the Israeli delegation from Ilan Ramon Centre at Ben-Gurion University in a competition held at the Institute of Physics in Warsaw. It mentioned the first prize winner and one of third prize winners. . . The two second place winners . . . were not mentioned at all. Probably because . . . they are Arabs . . .” ~ Weiss
MY COMMENT: I think it is important to mention that Israel Hayom (a/k/a “Bibiton”) is Sheldon Adelson’s pro-Netanyahu rag. It is owned and operated at a loss by a right-wing American casino magnate!
• Sheldon Adelson’s pro-Netanyahu tabloid [Israel Hayom] now the most widely read paper in Israel – link to 972mag.com
“the Jewish mind”
So it’s official. Jews have different minds from the rest of us. Jews are different from us ordinary humans.
Why should we not treat Jews differently, then?
Why should we not treat Jews differently, then?
you already can, roha. universal, unequivocal admiration for their unsurpassed acheivements in the face of unparalleled persecution . . .. just keep those superlative prefixes coming.
About the Zionist ideology that is built on erasing the Palestinians, Palestinian writer Ghada Karmi described the “vanishing” of the Palestinians back in 2004; in talking about the horrible wall and how it’s one of the tools used to do it, she says:
“… This position is entirely valid, but critics, in my view, have missed one crucial aspect of the wall’s purpose, which is, to “vanish” the Palestinians, to make them so invisible that Israelis can go on pretending that there is no “other man”.
Observers of Palestinian history have long been familiar with Israel’s position on this issue. But few realise how successful, subtle and far reaching this Israeli policy has been. Arriving in Haifa recently I could see how hard Israel had tried to make that wish to send the Palestinians into oblivion come true. Haifa prides itself on being the best example of a ‘mixed’ Arab-Jewish city in Israel, practising a much-vaunted mutual tolerance and cooperation. In fact, it is overwhelmingly Jewish, the Arabs forming less than ten per cent of the population. Haifa is a picturesque city; its famous Carmel Mountain, where the city’s Arab notables used to live before 1948, overlooks a beautiful harbour.
Today, Jews inhabit those houses and the Arab minority that remained after the 1948 expulsions lives in a rundown district by the port below, segregated in all but name. The old Haifa street names have been replaced by Jewish ones. To me, an “original” Palestinian exiled in England since 1948, the place was ineffably depressing. Beneath the phoney friendliness in public there was no disguising the unequal relationship between the two sides: the menial jobs in which Arabs are concentrated, the discrimination in housing, jobs and education, implicit rather then legislative, and the aversion to meaningful social contact. One woman described her struggle to buy into the exclusive Carmel district. People had said Arabs in the neighbourhood would depress property prices, rather as blacks are said to do in some Western countries.
Israeli Jews look down on Arabs. Even recently arrived Ethiopian “Jews”, themselves fighting discrimination, affect to despise Arabs. Walking along Haifa’s streets, a disturbing hybrid of modern European and old Arab, I had a sense of a city gutted and soulless, its true past barely discernible beneath the new constructions. People showed me where my uncle’s house had once stood; it is now a municipal car park, demolished by the authorities in 1983. The vanishing process I could see was well advanced here. It had started with the Zionist slogan of Palestine as ‘a land without a people’, to which end the Israelis expended much effort. In 1948, a majority of Palestine’s population was expelled (my family amongst them) and was never allowed to return. A campaign to eradicate the Palestinian presence swiftly followed. Over 500 Palestinian villages were demolished and replaced with Israeli settlements; Hebrew place names were substituted for the previous Arabs ones; the country’s history was re-written to claim that Palestine had been a wasteland, home to a few wandering Bedouin tribes. Israeli schoolchildren were reared for decades on this mythology. Palestinian customs were appropriated as “Israeli”, and the minority of Palestinians that remained became invisible…
… The Israeli colonisation of land and resources has strangled the Palestinian economy and made statehood unviable. At the same time, the destruction of Palestinian history proceeds unabated. One of the least noted aspects of Israel’s 1982 invasion of Lebanon was the removal to Israel of truckloads of crucial Palestinian archives and documents from the PLO Research Centre in Beirut. The Israelis did the same in 2002 when they invaded Ramallah. Vital statistics, computer hard drives, population statistics and land registers were taken out with the aim of destroying the Palestinian collective memory, history and national existence…”
link to counterpunch.org
link to rashi-foundation.org.il
“The winners, from right: Tamar Namir,Yuval Katsnelson, May Alon, Magd Alfrawona, Dor Shmuel, Shlomi Shvartzman, Adi Kadar-Levi, Alfarook Abu Alhassan, Ran Zitaiat”
Phil. Is your article a ‘rush to judgment’?
12 winner names are listed on the Ben Gurion University’s page, here:
link to in.bgu.ac.il
In the article you link to, only two names are mentioned: The first prize winner and one of the third prize winners. None of the 8 students who won the second prize are mentioned, 2 of whom have Arab names and 6 – Hebrew names. The two with the Arab names appears first because the names are listed in an alphabetic order. Your conclusion of deliberate deletion of Arab students’ names in the article would carry more authority if Hebrew name winners from of the second prize had made it into the article. There were three names in the third prize category but only one was indicated. which suggests to me some sort of editorial decision that has nothing to do with ethnicity or religion.
If you want to make a case for discrimination, you would have to explain why, out of the 12 names only two were mentioned at all. And why, when 8 of the unmentioned names are Jewish, do you take special interest in the non-mention of the Arab names? Do you think they should have been given special attention, because they were Arab students? If so, why?
If you want to make a case for discrimination, you would have to explain why, out of the 12 names only two were mentioned at all.
PZ, The head of the program at BGU said, “We succeeded in showing the world the potential of the Jewish mind,” when NOT all of the student winners were Jewish and then the various Israeli news organizations proceeded to ignore the ones who were not Jewish. That’s bigotry and discrimination. Imagine that a group of American physics students won prizes in a competition, and the head of their program declared, ” We succeeded in showing the world the potential of the Christian mind”, when a few of the students were not Christian, but Jewish. Do you at least understand how bigoted that would have been?
Now, he could have said, “We succeeded in showing the potential of the Israeli mind” and not exhibited his bigotry, but then Israel encourages this kind of bigotry by insisting that it is not the state of all its citizens equally, but is rather the state of the “Jewish people everywhere”.
Do you think they should have been given special attention, because they were Arab students? If so, why?
They should not have been “disappeared” simply because they were not Jewish, and thus were not examples of “the Jewish mind”. They don’t need “special attention”, they just deserve the same attention every Jewish student winner got.
Bigotry is mindless hatred and nothing in these article suggests bigotry. Pride maybe, but not bigotry.
My best guess is that the Arab (and some Jewish) names were omitted for editorial reasons only.
The “pride” is exhibited solely toward the “Jewishness” of their accomplishments, even though some of them are not Jewish. That’s a bigoted and false sense of pride. You don’t get it. What a surprise!
“Bigotry is mindless hatred”
It’s not only that, pudracist. It’s also the obstinte holding of one’s own group, however defined, as superior to others.
The U.S. State Department’s report on International Religious Freedom: “Arabs in Israel…are subject to various forms of discrimination [and the government] does not provide Israeli Arabs…with the same quality of education, housing, employment opportunities as Jews.”
The Independent, Dec. 27/2011
“…EU broadside over plight of Israel’s Arabs”
“The confidential 27-page draft prepared by European diplomats…[shows] that Israeli Arabs suffer ‘economic disparities…unequal access to land and housing…discriminatory draft legislation and a political climate in which discriminatory rhetoric and practice go unsanctioned.’“
link to in.bgu.ac.il
In the picture above, the veiled Muslim female student is relegated to the back in a way that is uncomfortable to view.
@Eva
What is it about seating and standing people in ‘size order’ that makes you uncomfortable?
PZ,
What is it about Zionism that makes you unable to see clearly? The photo does not have people in “size order” in either the group sitting and standing picture or the one where they are all standing. IN the sitting and standing photo she is standing behind one of the taller male students, when she is the shortest, or one of the shortest people standing (and all the rest standing are males). Size order would have put her standing behind the other two female students, or sitting in the first row. Instead they have the tallest male standing behind the shortest females, and the second tallest male sitting in front of her.
In the all standing picture it is as if she is in a row all to herself behind everyone else. Again, better placement would have put her directly behind the other two female students. She almost looks like she is “photobombing” the picture in that standing shot. She looks as if she is not quite a part of the group. That’s probably what makes Eva uncomfortable.
But you can’t see it, just as you can’t see that extolling the “Jewish mind” of the physics students negates the existence and intelligence of the non-Jewish physics students.
@tree
Of course the photos put the students in size order. The short kids are seated (size order) and the tall kids are standing. The tall kids in the back row are standing in size order.
So now the school photographer is in on this vast conspiracy?
So now the school photographer is in on this vast conspiracy?
thanks for the belly laugh. no i’m sure that the racial/ethnic hierarchy is plain for all to see, and that everyone falls quite naturally into their designated roles. and it’s not a conspiracy, it’s a national ideology.
>> Of course the photos put the students in size order. … The tall kids in the back row are standing in size order.
Wrong. The black girl is taller than the guy with the gray checkered shirt (first pic), but he’s not at the end of the row, she is.
>> The short kids are seated (size order) and the tall kids are standing.
Wrong again. The guy with the “Good Vibes!” t-shirt is taller than the guy with the gray checkered shirt (second pic), but the former is seated and the latter is standing.
Zio-supremacism seems to affect eyesight as well as intelligence.
PZ,
Look at the guy in the blue “Good Vibes” T-shirt. He’s as tall or taller than most of those in the back row, including the Muslim girl. Only the guy in the white shirt is noticeably taller than he is. Look at him in the standing pictures. He’s one of the tallest guys and he’s sitting down in front of her, even though she is the shortest one in the standing row (and it appears she’s slightly shorter than he is when they are both standing. That’s not “size order”.
So now the school photographer is in on this vast conspiracy?
Who said anything about a “vast conspiracy”? I’m pointing out that your attempt to claim the kids are posed in “size order” is totally wrong. You can’t see and you don’t listen. Again, what a surprise!
The late Eric Hobsbawm on the meager productivity of what in his autobiography he described as a “militarist, culturally disappointing and politically aggressive nation-state”:
link to lrb.co.uk