A 21-year-old woman is killed, two brothers in their 70s beaten — and never accountability

Israel/Palestine
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Lubna Munir Hanash, killed in Palestine Jan. 23, 2013

The Haaretz article excerpted below, published January 24, states that four unarmed Palestinians between the ages of 16 and 21 were killed the preceding week, and a fifth person’s life hung by a thread, he has since died. In each of these killings, the youth posed no immediate danger. The time frame does not take into account the unprovoked, driveby killing the day before Haaretz’s list, of Lubna Munir Hanash, 21, shot in the head by Israeli soldiers. The soldiers opened fire from a civilian car at the entrance to al-Arrub refugee camp south of Bethlehem on January 23.

Lubna Hanash’s youth, innocence and beauty are hardly singular or extraordinary qualities when it comes to victims of Israeli violence. And the perpetrators, as usual, will surely not be held accountable. (The occupying authorities have come out with the usual story of provocation.)

Avner Gvaryahu of Breaking the Silence underscores the routine nature of many civilian killings in The real rules of engagement in the West Bank.

I participated in dozens of operations, and after reading hundreds of eyewitness accounts that we have collected over the years at our organization, Breaking the Silence, the real, flexible rules of engagement have become apparent to me, allowing opening fire on unarmed civilians. More seriously, sometimes the fire is designed from the beginning to “create friction” with the Palestinian population.

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In effect, there is no distinction between a Palestinian who fires at us and a Palestinian who throws a rock at us, a stone thrower and a demonstrator or a demonstrator and someone who simply does not obey our orders or gets insolent. All of them are attempting to undermine our control and at the end of the day, everyone is an enemy. And if every Palestinian is an enemy, then every Palestinian is also a target. And there is nothing he can do to stop being a target in our view…… This assumption explains why over the past decade, orders have been given to open fire on civilians and rescue crews. There is no unit or area in the territories where such incidents have not occurred.

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[T]he army systematically harms all the Palestinians and attempts to create a compliant society that can be easily controlled. When any Palestinian, without any connection to what he is doing, is the enemy who must be fought, then even a Palestinian demonstrating for equality and independence is as frightening as an armed Palestinian, if not more so. And that’s because unarmed resistance to the occupation poses a challenge to the security concept to which we have become accustomed.

Creating a compliant society requires Palestinians’ acceptance of their own domination by Israelis. After decades, what’s become apparent is that acceptance will not be forthcoming– hence, an unsustainable occupation.

The unending unaccountability for Israeli violence nurtures a system in which Israelis are indoctrinated in the dominance and control of Palestinians. The unaccountability is not limited to Israeli soldiers, but extends to violent settlers in the occupied territories.

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Destruction of Al-Sleibi brothers land (Photo by Rabbis for Human Rights)

Amira Hass’s article, “Israel to urge court: Drop Palestinian farmers’ complaint against settler attacks” describes a shocking case in which Israel, via the military and state police in the West Bank, will ask a court to reject a petition on behalf of brothers Hammad and Mohammed al-Sleibi, age 78 and 70, from the village of Safa southwest of Bethlehem.

The al-Sleibi brothers have experienced years of attacks by settlers. Their plot of land, abundant with fruit-bearing trees and vines, is situated just 200 meters from the illegal settlement of Bat Ayin. And the state now finds itself arguing that “the routine of fear in which two elderly farmers live due to attacks by settlers is reasonable and proportionate.”

In the name of the IDF and the Israel Police, the State Prosecutor’s Office will try to convince justices Asher Grunis, Esther Hayut and Neal Hendel not to be overly shocked by the descriptions by Rabbis for Human Rights attorneys Quamar Mishirqi-Assad and Avital Sharon. At issue are the attacks on brothers Hammad and Mohammed al-Sleibi, age 78 and 70, from the village of Safa southwest of Bethlehem.

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A few months later, young men from the settlement beat Mohammed and didn’t stop until he lay down and pretended to be dead. In both cases the farmers needed medical treatment. In 2009, about 20 young Jewish men heading from Bat Ayin beat Hammad and another brother, Abdullah, who needed 17 stitches in his head. That year the plot was set on fire three times; the brothers say hundreds of trees went up in flames…From the middle of 2011 the frequency and severity of the attacks increased. Until the petition was filed in May 2012, the unidentified assailants destroyed trees at least eight times by either chopping them down or uprooting them.

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Sometimes the attackers or the tree destroyers left messages: Kahane was right, Death to the Arabs, Regards from Bat Ayin. One time people saw teenagers leaving the burned area for the settlement. The eyewitnesses were not summoned for questioning by the police. The more than 15 complaints filed with the police (14 since 2009 alone) were all answered with “no offenders were found.”

The state will try to explain to the honorable justices that this situation stems from totally objective reasons; for example, that the attackers sometimes were masked, that the Israelis living in the area are not cooperative with the police, and that there is no evidence to carry out a criminal procedure. Attorney Yuval Roitman, a senior deputy at the State Prosecutor’s Office, has already replied in writing to that effect.

The occupation remains intolerable. It must end and some day it will. I don’t know when, I don’t know how, but the unsustainability is now an international demand. Israeli society is also corrupted by the occupation. The young are indoctrinated (as Guy Davidi makes so clear in the video he has posted about his film “5 Broken Cameras”). But military or civilian violence, it makes no difference– Palestinians remain noncompliant.

The routine assassination of Lubna Munir Hanash… the routine beatings of Hammad and Mohammed al-Sleibi– they cry out for accountability. 

49 Responses

  1. Cliff
    January 29, 2013, 10:01 am

    Israeli thugs and the antisemitism-smear Lobby in the US, never surprise.

    And THESE people are worried about a 1SS, living with Palestinians?

    Should be the other way around. Palestinians are already being lynched by these freaks.

    • seafoid
      January 29, 2013, 10:22 am

      It is not permitted to draw Netanyahu in a cartoon alongside images of blood. But Palestinians are killed every day now by his country.

      • Woody Tanaka
        January 29, 2013, 11:05 am

        That’s right, seafoid. The zionists’s gentle sensibility is offended by pictures of israelis near blood, but not by actual blood shed at their hands by Palestinians.

      • seafoid
        January 29, 2013, 1:43 pm

        They really have lost it. Hypocrisy doesn’t even begin to describe it.

        Netanyahu wins votes on the basis of his cruelty but nobody in Galut is allowed to discuss it.

      • Mooser
        February 5, 2013, 2:14 pm

        “Netanyahu wins votes on the basis of his cruelty but nobody in Galut is allowed to discuss it.”

        Says who?

      • seafoid
        February 5, 2013, 3:37 pm

        The bots. It is antisemitic to draw attention to Israel’s depravity. Why don’t you take up the case of the Kurds etc.

      • MRW
        January 29, 2013, 11:10 am

        The definition of “lese majesté.” Lookitup.

        So medieval.

      • American
        January 29, 2013, 12:45 pm

        ”The definition of “lease majesté.”…MRW

        That does capture it…….must not insult the royal King(s). lol

    • Mike_Konrad
      January 30, 2013, 7:56 am

      You had better check this story out.

      Israellycool has sourced three versions of this story and linked to them.

      Palestinian Blood Libel: What Happened To Lubna Muneer Hanash?
      link to israellycool.com
      link to israellycool.com

      Now, it is obvious Miss Hanash is dead; but Israellycool has fixated on story’s inconsistencies, rather than its tragedy.

      Until the Arabs get their story straight, no one will believe them.

      I am not here to hammer you; but I have been seeing this for years. Arab sources are given to exaggeration and hyperbole; so much so that by the time the truth surfaces, even when the Arab case is merit , the Arab case is dismissed.

      Everyone lies, but Arab media seem not to check their sources; and they often traffic in rumors.

      If you are going to get in a game of Media manipulation with the Israeli media, you are up against world class professionals.

      Unprofessional Arab reporting will kill you.

      The Arab case is bad enough as it is.

      • Annie Robbins
        January 30, 2013, 11:55 am

        mike, i already read those links, before we published the article actually.

        I am not here to hammer you; but I have been seeing this for years. Arab sources are given to exaggeration and hyperbole

        you know what i’ve been seeing for years? dead palestinians with no accountability. idf spokespeople who lie time and again over and over and over. fabricating excuses, they are liars:

        link to mondoweiss.net

        Israel is shifting their explanation as to how the deadly strike that caused the most controversy during the fighting happened. The latest explanation is that the attack was a deliberate one, the target of which was a Hamas member…

        people are sick of it. the days of ‘israel is always right unless you have definitive proof caught on camera’ are over. so good of you to inform us ‘Arabs are given to exaggeration and hyperbole’. here’s what i won’t be writing (since i am not a racist) i will not be writing jews are given to lying. but i will say the idf protects their own, even if it requires downright fabrication even when they’re caught red handed.

        for a followup on their warcrimes check out, from the committee to protect journalists: Will Israel respond to query on targeting Gaza journalists?

        link to cpj.org

        when israel doesn’t like the news they kill the messengers. and you’re whining about exaggeration and hyperbole? but you don’t mean to hammer me. gotcha.

        please go back and read the story. it’s not all about the particulars of one death. it’s about israel being unaccountable, repeatedly.

      • Annie Robbins
        January 30, 2013, 11:58 am

        and as an aside:

        Until the Arabs get their story straight, no one will believe them.

        no one? think again. we’re dealing with a $100million hasbara propaganda lying operation, and you think people won’t believe ‘arabs’? your racism is showing.

      • American
        January 30, 2013, 12:24 pm

        ”Until the Arabs get their story straight, no one will believe them.

        I am not here to hammer you; but I have been seeing this for years. Arab sources are given to exaggeration and hyperbole;”…Mike_Konrad

        Doesn’t matter if some are exaggerated or not…enough are true, enough about Israel since 1948 is true, that it no longer matters.

        The majority of the world doesn’t like you, sees you as racist, agressive and primitive supremist …and politically as a trouble maker in the ME …that’s what you should be worrying about.

      • Woody Tanaka
        January 30, 2013, 3:56 pm

        “Until the Arabs get their story straight, no one will believe them.”

        Speak for yourself, bigot.

      • Inanna
        January 30, 2013, 5:43 pm

        You might want to check your prejudices at the door here Mike. I don’t give any credence to your crap about Israeli/Arab superiority/inferiority, since the essentialism that you traffic in is merely another form of racism.

      • Cliff
        January 30, 2013, 6:23 pm

        Mike Konrad, stop referring to Palestinian news sources as ‘Arab reporting’, you racist creep.

  2. flyod
    January 29, 2013, 10:06 am

    you are dealing with people that don’t give a damn about international demands. never have

  3. marc b.
    January 29, 2013, 10:33 am

    And the state now finds itself arguing that “the routine of fear in which two elderly farmers live due to attacks by settlers is reasonable and proportionate.”

    where did this quote come from? and for clarification’s sake, does it mean that the government is arguing that the settlers’ actions are ‘reasonable and proportionate’ under international law? if so, is the government tacitly acknowledging that the settlers are state actors? or am i confusing the issue? hostage? anyone?

    • Annie Robbins
      January 29, 2013, 1:17 pm

      marc, when something is in double quotes check the source offered. in this case hass’s article. the opening paragraph is:

      The Israel Defense Forces and the Israeli police in the West Bank will continue trying to convince the High Court of Justice on Monday that the routine of fear in which two elderly farmers live due to attacks by settlers is reasonable and proportionate.

      i doubt if she just made that up. when she wrote ‘continue to convince’,it means she’s probably privy to arguments they have made before.

      • marc b.
        January 29, 2013, 1:29 pm

        ope. sorry, annie. i still don’t understand the IDF/police argument, but maybe that’s because it’s nonsensical.

      • JennieS
        January 29, 2013, 4:43 pm

        Marc I read the article yesterday in Ha’aretz and was also puzzled by the idea that the “reasonable & proportionate fear” felt by these farmers should be regarded in somewhat the same way as Floridians fear of hurricanes or Californians of earth quakes – justified sure but unavoidable. The settlers are simply a force of nature which cannot be constrained by the mere humans in the police & IDF. Of course had it been Palestinians harrassing Jews whole villages would have been locked down and every male between the ages of 10 & 70 arrested and questioned until somebody or bodies confessed.

      • marc b.
        January 30, 2013, 5:25 pm

        it was a confusing use of the term to me too, jennieS, since ‘proportionality’ is typically a test applied to a State’s use of force. that’s why i wondered if the IDF/police were essentially arguing that settlers are part of the State apparatus.

  4. American
    January 29, 2013, 11:35 am

    How many countries have ever had a ‘Government” policy that it’s o.k. to just plain murder people for no reason? And I’m talking about ‘government policy’ …… not non government outlaw groups or something like civil war gangs within a country.
    I am trying to think of one in modern times.

  5. gamal
    January 29, 2013, 11:40 am

    Palestinian Ghandi’s better tool up. The catastrophe that awaits Zoinism, one has to say, is fully deserved. It was a great error on the part of Palestinians to suspend the resistance of the 2nd intifada, which drove Israel to sham negotiate, the next one will not end nor will the risible, international community restrain it with demands for peaceful resistance (acquiescence). the whole Arab world and Muslim North Africa are going to go lapse in to endless little wars, as the assault on Africa begins, war is the wests only policy, oh and a whole lot of empty talk about freedom and rights, Zionism defeat is the only solution.

    • Cliff
      January 29, 2013, 6:46 pm

      Israel imprisons and murders Palestinian Ghandis.

      • Annie Robbins
        January 30, 2013, 1:14 am

        there are not enough prisons for them cliff, palestine is rising up a generation of gandhis. they can’t kill them all either, the global youth will stand behind palestine which has become an international symbol for the future of mankind’s freedom.

        Where 1 passes, milllions will pick up –

  6. Cliff
    January 29, 2013, 1:50 pm

    No Zionist anywhere is offended by terms like ‘Jewish lobby’ or ‘Israel Firster’ or a picture of Netanyahu erecting a brick wall between Israel proper and Gaza, with chunks of Palestinian civilians caught in-between.

    Zionists know the truth – that they stole the land and drove out it’s inhabitants. They know that they are themselves, vile racists and supremacists who have degraded an entire people to justify Jewish colonialism and nationalism.

    They just don’t care.

    And their indifference is best showcased by the cynical and pretentious concern for such aforementioned comments and pictures.

    They exist in the public arena and the sole purpose is to incite fear and guilt in non-Jews and Jews sympathetic to the Palestinian cause.

    I was reading the comments of an article on JPost or YNet or Haaretz, doesn’t matter anymore which, about the picture/caricature of Netanyahu.

    An Arab commentator said that the picture was accurate due to the violence Israel inflicts on Gaza, violence without reproach and accountability.

    The Zionist commentators – in droves – immediately jumped on the Arab commentator and made several dehumanizing replies. One said ‘typical unsanitary ARAB’ and another did the whole Islam-is-evil/Jewish-State-has-Arab-politicians schtick.

    Let’s not kid ourselves. No Zionist is sensitive (sincerity) to the supposed line between anti-Zionism and antisemitism. They do NOT care.

    They couldn’t possibly care.

    It’s not about hatred. They exhibit that very same hate towards Arabs, Muslims, Palestinians, and anyone else who opposes their political movement.

    • American
      January 29, 2013, 6:00 pm

      I saw this article earlier:…….and the attacks on Jews in Europe it mentions are true, I had seen it in prior news reports. This particular writer however wants to chalk it up to the eternal, irrational Jew hatred…..instead of reaction to Jewish actions in Israel. I think when people shout death to ‘Jews and Israel” it’s pretty clear most if not all of that emotion is inspired by Israel.
      I am sure Arabs and Muslims and everyone sees the same examples and reports of Israelis killing Palestinians like the one featured in this article—-but the Zionist can’t let it be admitted Israel is the cause of 99% of this Jewish resentment and these incidents without making themselves/Israel responsible for the motivations if not the actual actions of the attackers.
      I do not accept that this increase in Jewish attacks, attitudes toward Jews, sprang up for no reason except it was time for it to pop out again like some reoccurring rash….it is definitely linked to Israel. ..everytime Israel pounds Palestine there is an uptick in this. Not that your average Jew can do much about Israel, but I wonder if they really accept/understand what is causing the attitudes or if they buy the irrational hatred explaination.

      link to thedailybeast.com

      Downplaying Western European Anti-Semitism
      by Liam Hoare Jan 29, 2013 12:00 PM EST

      ‘’It is rather unfortunate therefore that in seeking to illuminate, to draw distinctions, and to demonstrate that Europe is not a monolithic space where every Jew shares the same fated experience, Freedland either downplays or in some cases downright ignores the real and existing problems facing western European Jewry in particular.’’

      While it is the case that immigrant communities in Europe continue to suffer isolation, ghettoization, and desolation—all of which impact crime rates—it is difficult to ignore that the inspiration behind Mohamed Merah’s act of terror in Toulouse was a fundamentalist dogma which, as Douglas Murray argues, “extols hatred of Jews for being Jews” and is driven, Martin Bright adds, “by pure, irrational racism.”

      • American
        January 29, 2013, 7:11 pm

        I remember a long time ago when American tourist were attacked and some killed at the pyramids in Egypt by ALQ like Islamist before the general public knew what ALQ was……if people can’t directly attack the real object of their hate some of them will attack whatever symbols of it are handy.

  7. Shingo
    January 29, 2013, 3:54 pm

    If this is not bad enough, Israeli apologists then have the chutzpah to shed crocodile tears and ooint the finger at Iran over the mirder of Neda during the Iran demonstrations.

  8. DICKERSON3870
    January 29, 2013, 4:15 pm

    RE: “In effect, there is no distinction between a Palestinian who fires at us [the IDF] and a Palestinian who throws a rock at us [the IDF], a stone thrower and a demonstrator or a demonstrator and someone who simply does not obey our [the IDF's] orders or gets insolent. All of them are attempting to undermine our [the IDF's] control . . .” ~ Avner Gvaryahu of Breaking the Silence

    FROM THE FILM “ADAM RESURRECTED” (2008): “You break the tiniest rule, you break the entire system.” ~ quote from the film Adam Resurrected spoken by the head nurse (Gina Grey) at a mental institution to a patient (Adam Stein) confined thereto

    • Gina Grey: “There are rules, Adam!”
    • Adam Stein: “Compassion. Mercy. Nurse, what happened to the…”
    • Gina Grey: “You break the tiniest rule, you break the entire system.”
    SOURCE – link to imdb.com

    Adam Resurrected, 2008, R, 106 minutes
    Decades after he survived the Holocaust by becoming a pet “dog” to a brutal concentration camp commandant (Willem Dafoe), Jewish circus entertainer Adam Stein (Jeff Goldblum) finds himself confined to an Israeli mental institution. But when he encounters a feral young boy being held like a dog in the hospital’s basement, Stein discovers a new opportunity to reclaim his humanity. Paul Schrader directs.
    Netflix formats: DVD and Blu-ray
    ● Netflix listing – link to dvd.netflix.com
    ● Internet Movie Database – link to imdb.com
    Adam Resurrected – OFFICIAL TRAILER [VIDEO, 02:02] – link to youtube.com

    The Making of “Adam Resurrected”
    • part 1 [VIDEO, 08:54] – link to youtube.com
    • part 2 [VIDEO, 08:02] – link to youtube.com
    • part 3 [VIDEO, 07:05] – link to youtube.com

    • DICKERSON3870
      January 29, 2013, 4:31 pm

      P.S. FROM WIKIPEDIA [Adam Resurrected]:

      Adam Resurrected (אדם בן כלב, Adam Ben Kelev) is a 2008 American-German-Israeli film, directed by Paul Schrader and adapted from Yoram Kaniuk’s novel of the same name published in Israel in 1968 (the book’s original name literally means “Man, son of a dog”). . .
      . . . The film follows the story of Adam Stein, a charismatic patient of a fictitious psychiatric asylum for Holocaust survivors in Israel, in 1961. . .

      SOURCE – link to en.wikipedia.org

  9. ritzl
    January 29, 2013, 4:15 pm

    Sumud. Interesting word. Powerful concept of resistance. Probably either the proverbial “irresistable force” or the “immovable object.”

    But I have to say that I have written dozens of comments encouraging Palestinian Sumud, only to delete them. I can’t bring myself, as someone so far removed from the “front lines” of this (and therefore not at risk of physical harm) to encourage something that will inevitably result in many Palestinian dead. How can one encourage people to offer themselves up for death or injury to a machine that doesn’t care about, in fact revels in, their suffering?

    It’s going to take a horrific event, without arguable counterpoint (as in “rockets from Gaza”), to get the international community (public and private/BDS) to get off its collective ass on this. To achieve the accountability needed to solve this. That event is going to happen given the Palestinian resilience in the face of this calculated Israeli malignancy. It’s heartbreaking to tears to wish for Palestinians to continue their resilience. Is there any alternative?

    This goes to the whole, semi-exasperated, marginally-genuine, “save us from ourselves” meme that is occurring inside Israel (the “Left”) and at the NYT (recent article here) at the moment. Why should Palestinians be required to die so their oppressors and their sycophants (particularly libzios) can “achieve” without doing (or in the case of their allies, gain leverage)? Maybe that’s all just the way of the world, but again, it’s heartbreaking, and more than a little bit selfish, imo.

    Good article, Annie. Poignant and thought provoking. OM….

    PS. One of the things that would help show just how mind-numbingly casual these state-sanctioned killings are is a series of map-based visual aids. Anatomy of an event, kind of thing. My model would be Ken Burns’ treatment of US Civil War battles. Who was where, when, and what were they doing. In the case of Lubna Hanash (and so many others), it would show she was casually executed for simply being “there” (and Palestinian, of course).

    People at MW know what goes on over there, but I don’t think people who browse or tweet into this issue realize just how casually this is done. There’s always a newbie niggle (small or large) about “Palestinian, eh? Must have been causing trouble (e.g. ‘deserved it’). Moving on.” “E-1″ or “entrance to refugee camp” have little self-evident meaning. Spatial insight could address that newbie lack of insight. I mean these people are killed and beaten for being on their own land, fercrissake. I don’t think newbs get the “own land” significance from these news descriptions. “Entrance to a refugee camp” could mean that she was in Israeli territory, unlawfully.

    And while I’m talking spatial placement, I wish that the Oslo Areas that all these events occur within would be mentioned. I would establish, up front, a pattern of ethnic cleansing/genocide (Area C), and complete abrogation of Oslo (raids into Areas A and B) by the Israelis.

    Sorry for running on. FWIW.

    • Annie Robbins
      January 29, 2013, 5:45 pm

      don’t apologize ritzl, good comment.

      • ritzl
        January 29, 2013, 9:10 pm

        Hey, after reading one of your latest posts, I made Parker’s observation into a desktop pix.

        One of these days I’ll memorize it so that I can blurt it out in the middle of a conversation… It’s kind of a show-stopper.

        I do not pretend to know the moral universe; the arc is a long one, my eye reaches but little ways; I cannot calculate the curve or complete the figure by sight; I can divine it by conscience. And from what I see, it bends towards justice.

        Cheers.

      • Annie Robbins
        January 29, 2013, 10:28 pm

        wow, thank you for this inspiration. you’re right..a showstopper. it’s been a tough few days. sometimes i have to remember to pick myself up and keep going.

    • American
      January 29, 2013, 6:05 pm

      Ditto….the map thing is a good idea.

  10. sardelapasti
    January 29, 2013, 7:00 pm

    This wanton murder is just another obvious case of the ordinary population control system of the Zionist entity, along with the periodic massacres, etc. The parallels with ancient Sparta, among the most monstrous of the horrors of classic history, are obvious.

    To my surprise, Wikipedia had a serviceable, incomplete but to-the-point summary; highlights copied below. The real surprise was to see that the article hadn’t been expunged yet by the Zionist minders of Wikipedia. Save it while you can.

    link to en.wikipedia.org
    “Thucydides stresses that “most Spartan institutions have always been designed with a view to security against the Helots”. Aristotle compares them to “an enemy constantly sitting in wait of the disaster of the Spartans”. Thus, fear seems to be an important factor governing the relations between Spartans and Helots. According to tradition, the Equals always carried their spears, undid the straps of their bucklers only when at home lest the Helots seize them, and locked themselves in their homes. They also took active measures, subjecting them to what Theopompus describes as “an altogether cruel and bitter condition”.

    “They assign to the Helots every shameful task leading to disgrace. …and receive a stipulated number of beatings every year regardless of any wrongdoing, so that they would never forget they were slaves. Moreover, if any exceeded the vigour proper to a slave’s condition, they made death the penalty…”

    link to en.wikipedia.org

    Krypteia or crypteia… was a tradition involving young Spartans, part of the… regime of Spartan education…. Young Spartan men who had completed their training at the agoge with such success that they were marked out as potential future leaders would be given the opportunity to test their skills and prove themselves worthy of the Spartan military through participation in the krypteia.

    Every autumn… the Spartan ephors… would pro forma declare war on the helot population so that any Spartan citizen could kill a helot without fear of blood guilt. The kryptes were sent out… with the instructions to kill any helot they encountered at night and to take any food they needed… Krypteia members stalked the helot villages and surrounding countryside, spying on the servile population. Their mission was to root-out [sic] potential sedition. Troublesome helots could be summarily executed. Such brutal oppression of the helots permitted the Spartans to control the agrarian population and devote themselves to military practice. …Only Spartans who had served in the Krypteia as young men could expect to achieve the highest ranks in Spartan society and army. It was felt that only those Spartans who showed the ability and willingness to kill for the state at a young age were worthy to join the leadership in later years.”

  11. Denis
    January 30, 2013, 4:09 pm

    among your absolute best posts ever, [a]nnie. You know you hit the nerve by the quality of the comments.

    among your best lines, ever:
    “Lubna Hanash’s youth, innocence and beauty are hardly singular or extraordinary qualities when it comes to victims of Israeli violence.”

    This line struck me b/c it harks back to “The Boy On The Horse.”
    “The unending unaccountability for Israeli violence nurtures a system in which Israelis are indoctrinated in the dominance and control of Palestinians.”

    google Lubna Hanash = 25,000 hits. Will be interesting to follow the next few days/weeks. Wish I knew the web tricks needed to get these stories rolling. You’re right, no punishment will be exacted from the person who killed her, but we know from the Shalom Eisner case that Israel itself can get pretty badly burned by these gut-wrenching stories of officially sanctioned terrorism.

    • Annie Robbins
      January 30, 2013, 5:10 pm

      thank you so much denis, it really means a lot to me when i sense people are listening (or hearing) what i am trying to say.

      i had saved this moving breaking the silence article and when i saw the video of the israeli children (linked at the base), it really hit me how so much of this is in the minds of the youths, the conditioning of the youth. and i thought of lubna. her death in particular, after a whole week of violent deaths, it really hit me hard. i wanted the youths in israel to see her face and think about those kids their own age and how they were not very much different then themselves.

      anyway, as it turned out phil had grabbed that video the same morning for another article so it wasn’t added to the post. but the idea is still there, how people become indoctrinated into a belief and changing that belief can radically change everything. i think israelis have to accept the fact that palestinians will not be complying. i have faith change will come. thanks again and please just call me annie anytime.

  12. IL1948
    February 3, 2013, 1:12 pm

    Lubna Hanash’s youth, innocence and beauty are hardly singular or extraordinary qualities when it comes to victims of Israeli violence.
    ———————————–

    Spot on! Countless others who have been killed by the idf were also young people who attempted to harm Israelis with Molotov cocktails and other weapons.

    • Annie Robbins
      February 3, 2013, 1:51 pm

      young people who attempted to harm Israelis with Molotov cocktails and other weapons.

      perhaps you are not aware of this: link to haaretz.com

      Senior IDF officer tells West Bank commanders to show restraint in dealing with Palestinians

      Maj. Gen. Nitzan Alon’s instruction follows four incidents in the West Bank in the past two weeks in which soldiers opened fire and killed unarmed Palestinians.
      ……….
      The IDF’s operational investigations of the incidents are being completed and the results will soon be presented to Alon. Meanwhile, four separate Military Police investigations have been opened into the incidents.

      Orders violated

      In three of the cases – a youth killed in the village of Budrus near Ramallah, a young woman shot in Al Aroub near Bethlehem and a young man shot next to the separation fence south of Hebron – serious violations of the IDF’s standing orders on when to open fire have been found. In the fourth case, in which an officer opened fire and killed a Palestinian youth during a demonstration in Bethlehem, the investigation found mistakes but no violation of regulations.

      As a result of the incident near Hebron, a company commander from the Home Front Command was suspended. He commanded the forces that unnecessarily opened fire on the Palestinian, who was attempting to cross the fence through an opening in order to work in Israel.

      your hasbara is showing. they were unarmed.

  13. IL1948
    February 4, 2013, 11:51 am

    I’m pretty sure this victim of violence was also unarmed… not surprised she isn’t listed by you:

    link to theblaze.com

    • Annie Robbins
      February 4, 2013, 12:03 pm

      please write phil and adam if you have an interest in MW covering these sorts of crimes IL, but for now why not take your concerns to failedmessiah. you can access 1,356 posts categorized “Pedophilia & Related Crimes” here:

      link to failedmessiah.typepad.com

    • eljay
      February 4, 2013, 12:14 pm

      >> I’m pretty sure this victim of violence was also unarmed… not surprised she isn’t listed by you …

      I love it when Zio-supremacists have to take time out from crowing about how the supremacist “Jewish State” of Israel is the most bestest place on Earth, in order to defend it by comparing it to – and pointing out that it’s not as bad as – oppressive countries like Saudi Arabia.

      Too funny… :-)

      • IL1948
        February 4, 2013, 8:10 pm

        Does anyone really believe that one would have to go all the way to Saudi Arabia to find women and children brutally killed by Muslims?

        How about the murder of the fogel family in Itamar? Is the zio-superpramcist regime as bad as them?

        If this woman was aiding and abetting men who were throwing Molotov cocktails at shoulders, her killing was justified regardless of whether she herself was or was not armed.

        Neither you nor Adam nor Phil have any interest in covering anything inconsistent with your agenda and the bigotry of your readership… Which is fine, but any self-description of MW as an “honest investigation” is a joke.

      • eljay
        February 5, 2013, 8:51 am

        >> Does anyone really believe that one would have to go all the way to Saudi Arabia to find women and children brutally killed by Muslims?

        No one believes that you have to leave the “Jewish State” to find men, women and children brutally killed, tortured, maimed and oppressed by Jews.

        >> How about the murder of the fogel family in Itamar? Is the zio-superpramcist regime as bad as them?

        That was a crime and an immoral act, and I insist that the perpetrators be brought to justice and held accountable for their crime. Do you insist on bringing the “Jewish State” to justice and holding it accountable for all its crimes and immorality, including terrorism, ethnic cleansing and a 60+ years, ON-GOING and offensive (i.e., not defensive) campaign of aggression, oppression, theft, colonization, destruction and murder?

        No, I didn’t think you would. Hypocrite.

        >> If this woman was aiding and abetting men who were throwing Molotov cocktails at shoulders, her killing was justified regardless of whether she herself was or was not armed.

        If there were no “Jewish State” Occupation Forces in Palestine, men would not be throwing anything at them, and this woman would not have been allegedly aiding and abetting them.

        That said, since it is acceptable to you to kill people who “aid and abet” purveyors of violence, I trust you won’t complain the next time Israelis get killed for aiding and abetting the “Jewish State” and its Occupation Forces in their occupation and colonization of Palestine, and their oppression and murder of Palestinians.

        No, I trust you will complain. Hypocrite.

      • Annie Robbins
        February 5, 2013, 12:36 pm

        Neither you nor Adam nor Phil have any interest in covering anything inconsistent with your agenda and

        IL, we absolutely covered the fogel family. perhaps you have a reading comprehension problem or do not realize this article referenced recent killings, it’s topic is not crimes in SA or sexual crimes. i specifically asked you if you had an interest in MW covering pedophilia and you ignored me. wonder why? i don’t.

        furthermore i already addressed your hypothetical “If this woman was aiding and abetting men who were throwing Molotov cocktails?” here:link to mondoweiss.net

        AGAIN, you ignore the response. clearly, according to Maj. Gen. Nitzan Alon’s assessment,who just happens to be head of the Israel Defense Force’s Central Command she was unarmed. which you would know if bothered to open the thread or maybe you do know and you’re just spamming the thread. if fogel the new pizza? you know very well this has nothing to do with unprovoked attacks on unarmed civilians. move along and quit spamming a week old thread over diverting issues already addressed and ignored by you.

      • sardelapasti
        February 5, 2013, 2:29 pm

        IL###: When one invades and starts a war of aggression and doesn’t stop it, as the Zionist entity is doing, inviting more illegal immigration means inviting them all as cannon fodder and live shields. One doesn’t invite people to an official war zone if not explicitly in order to risk their lives; one doesn’t emigrate to a war zone if not with the explicit consent to incur the risks of war. Period. So stop that whinging or move back.
        Besides, settlers are doubly illegal by invading outside armistice lines, so their civilian status is questionable at best. In fact, they are not civilians as defined by the Resistance during WWII.

  14. piotr
    February 5, 2013, 4:03 pm

    “If this woman was aiding and abetting men who were throwing Molotov cocktails at shoulders, her killing was justified regardless of whether she herself was or was not armed.”

    And since we here are also aiding and abetting, please kill us all! IL1948, are you out of your meds?

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