Netanyahu calls on American Jews to stand ‘together with us’ to stop Iran deal

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Netanyahu speaking to the General Assembly

Netanyahu speaking to the General Assembly of the Jewish Federations of North America

The largest American Jewish organization, the Jewish Federations, is having its annual conference in Israel this year. Netanyahu addressed the group tonight and said they had a responsibility to stop the deal that global leaders are trying to reach with Iran.

“That’s what I expect from every one of you, and I know it’s achievable.”

Netanyahu said the task was urgent in the light of the Holocaust. When we were silent in the face of genocide. And that Jews haven’t come through 4 millennia “to have the likes of the ayatollahs threaten our life.” A collective us, the Jews.

American Jews have a historical obligation to stand with Israel, he reminded the American Jews. “The purpose of the Jewish state is to enable Jews to defend themselves. This is something that we could not do before we had the Jewish state.”

Netanyahu also said that Iran was threatening the U.S., but that was later.

Excerpts of his speech:

That’s a bad deal. It’s a dangerous deal because it keeps Iran as a nuclear threshold nation and it may very well bring about a situation where the sanctions are dissolved or collapsed. It’s a bad and dangerous deal that deals with the thing that affects our survival. And when it comes to the question of Jewish survival and the survival of the Jewish state, I will not be silenced, ever. Not on my watch.

When the Jewish people were silent on matters relating to our survival, you know what happened. This is different. We are the Jewish state. We are charged with defending ourselves and we are charged with speaking up. And it is time now to speak up – all of us. All of us have to stand up now and be counted.
I can think of nothing that is as important and as crucial. We shall continue to work with the rest of the world, and it’s good that we have now a few days because this is not only in the interest of Israel; this is in the interest of the entire world. … it is possible right now, given the precariousness and vulnerability of the Iranian economy, to press forward the demand for Iran to dismantle its nuclear bomb-making capacity. That’s what I expect from every one of you, and I know it’s achievable. And it’s important.

I know that there have been many times that we have stood together. You have stood together with us. In any case, you know that the idea of the Jewish state and the purpose of the Jewish state is to enable Jews to defend themselves. This is something that we could not do before we had the Jewish state. But we can do it now and we shall always, always defend ourselves and defend our state.

I heard the learned commentaries of experts who explained to us that Israel cannot defend itself. They must know something I don’t know. This is our purpose. This is our goal. This is our way of assuring our destiny. And we have not come nearly four millennia in our odyssey over time, from the time that Abraham set foot in this country to the present, to have the likes of the ayatollahs threaten our life. We will always defend ourselves and our state.

Netanyahu also said that the Palestinians are balking on key terms of a peace deal. Recognizing Israel as a Jewish state, accepting an Israeli military presence in the West Bank, giving up Jerusalem. “[The conflict] was and still is about the Jewish state. They have to recognize the Jewish state,” he said of Palestinians.

He seemed a little defensive, selling all that to the Americans. And this ending had an authoritarian ring to it, “the inner strength” bit, and him being king of the Jewish people:

When I think of the challenges that the Jewish people have undergone, challenges that no nation has undergone, no people have undergone, and we’ve been able to overcome them over nearly 4,000 years – challenges to our physical survival, challenges to our spiritual survival and cohesion. I know that we have that inner strength to guarantee the Jewish future. I know it and you know it; together we’re going to achieve exactly that – to defend and secure the Jewish people and the one and only Jewish state. I say that here in our eternal capital, Jerusalem, and I know, I know that you stand with me.

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  1. piotr
    November 10, 2013, 10:56 pm

    This is from Op-Ed in ynetnews:

    “This is a double failure. Netanyahu, as prime minister, invested more than NIS 10 billion (about $3 billion) in building infrastructure for an attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities. Some said the goal was to convey to the Americans to “try to stop us,” and make them take action themselves. In any event, nothing came out of it. Washington was undeterred by the Israeli prime minister’s threats and led an approach advancing a diplomatic solution.”

    The article started from a depiction of Netanyahu being so angry after meeting with Kerry that photo-op had to be cancelled. In general, my impression is that Israelis do not understand what is happening. In a nutshell, nothing would satisfy them short of attacking Iran, but they just cannot comprehend that USA would do it except that it cannot. Russia and China have a veto power in case of a state that has direct overland connections to both. You can lobby 100 years, you can get support from 100 Senators, but you cannot convince USA to do something impossible.

    However, Israelis firmly believe that USA can do everything, so to achieve something it is sufficient to be “persuasive” in DC.. Netanyahu apparently spend 10 billion shekels for a set of toys and he cannot convince Obama to be allowed to play with them. And now he is blamed for not being sufficiently persuasive. Some people think that Avigdor Lieberman can make Israeli foreign policy worse. I do not think so.

    • RoHa
      November 10, 2013, 11:10 pm

      “cannot convince USA to do something impossible”

      Even if you try really, really, hard?

      “Some people think that Avigdor Lieberman can make Israeli foreign policy worse. I do not think so.”

      But I bet he will try really, really, hard to do so.

  2. RoHa
    November 10, 2013, 11:08 pm

    “The purpose of the Jewish state is to enable Jews to defend themselves. This is something that we could not do before we had the Jewish state.”

    Eh? When Australian Jews joined (and, in the case of Monash, led) the Australian Army, they were defending Australian Jews. When British Jews joined the British Army, they were defending British Jews. Likewise for Canadian and US Jews.

    And this happened before there was a Jewish state.

    • Philip Weiss
      November 11, 2013, 12:14 am

      Monash was also defending Aussies, no? And American Jews were defending Americans

      • RoHa
        November 11, 2013, 1:54 am

        “Monash was also defending Aussies, no? And American Jews were defending Americans”

        Yes. And when Australian/American Jews were defending Australians/Americans, they were defending the Jews who were included in the Australian/American populations. So it is not true that Jews could not defend Jews.

      • bilal a
        November 11, 2013, 9:01 am

        aussies and americans defending what exactly?

        sheesh, Joseph Stalin was our main ally, the psychopath churchill our second.

      • RoHa
        November 11, 2013, 6:54 pm

        “Joseph Stalin was our main ally, the psychopath churchill our second.”

        No, F. D. Roosevelt was our main ally. Menzies, Fadden, Curtin, Forde and Chiffley were Britain’s allies, but on 8 December 1941 Japan attacked Hong Kong and Malaya, and Australia’s attention turned to the Pacific theatre. FDR became our main ally. Churchill was our second ally, and Stalin the third.
        Stalin was Churchill’s main ally in terms of the effect he had, although Churchill regarded FDR as his main ally.

      • braciole
        November 11, 2013, 9:08 am

        And Imperial Germany was about to launch a massive sea-borne invasion of Australia? He was defending Britain and the Kaiser was not on a genocidal rampage AFAIK. A lot of Jews fought with pride for Germany in that war.

        Netanyahu really is an ungrateful f**k – what about the 383,800 British nationals who died in WW2 defending British Jews among other things, or the 416,800 American nationals who died in WW2 defending American Jews among other things. And let’s not forget the twenty nine million Soviets who died defending Soviet Jewry among other things. Or was it not a war that concerned the Jews? <snark>BTW, with that number of dead, the Soviets were entitled to the odd subsequent pogrom given what the Zionists have done with only six million dead</snark>.

        Netanyahu really is an ungrateful stupid f**k – if all Jews settled in Israel/Palestine and displaced the last Palestinians, it would be every rabid anti-Semites wet dream if he or she had a handful of thermonuclear devices. At the moment, any anti-Semite chasing the “Final Solution” with thermonuclear weapons would have to nuke the United States, Russia, the United Kingdom and France first. Not exactly a winning proposition.

      • RoHa
        November 12, 2013, 6:00 am

        “And Imperial Germany was about to launch a massive sea-borne invasion of Australia?”

        On the whole, Australians did think that defending Britain was, somehow, defending Australia. There is wonderful scene in the film Gallipoli in which Archy Hamilton tries to explain this to a camel driver he meets in a particularly desolate part of the outback.

        Archy Hamilton: We don’t stop them there, they could end up here.

        Camel Driver: [Slowly looks around at the desert] And they’re welcome to it.

      • RoHa
        November 12, 2013, 6:08 am

        But really, braciole, it isn’t fair to mention the millions of non-Jews who died defending (among other things) Jews, even though they included Muslims, Hindus, and Sikhs. Remember, the message is that no-one did anything about the Nazis.

    • yonah fredman
      November 11, 2013, 1:22 am

      Roha, It is clear what Netanyahu was referring to: Jewish inability to defend themselves in Europe from 1939 to 1945.
      This memory may be something that I have been forbidden by you, Roha, to mention, but when you pretend that Aussie Jews and British Jews and Canadian Jews is sufficient precedent or contradiction to not mention the real fact that Netanyahu is alluding to, then you are dealing in a type of obfuscation.
      (I can concede the fact that 68 years have passed since that catastrophe and that a new frame of mind may be called for. But when you offer no direct contradiction to Netanyahu’s allusion and merely play games with Aussie Jews, you are not preparing for a new state of mind, but playing games. Yes, most Jews today live in a situation comparable to the Aussie, Brit and Canadian Jews, so there is relevance to the history. But no, you cannot demand silence vis a vis the genocide and then offer your partial history and consider the conversation closed.)

      • Abdul-Rahman
        November 11, 2013, 1:41 am

        In response to “yonah”; disgusting, cynical and pathetic Zionist attempts to manipulate certain atrocities from the atrocity filled WW2 era, certainly is something that has been shown to have no bounds. This disgusting “trend” has of course already been talked about in-depth link to normanfinkelstein.com

        Some of this disgusting Zionist propaganda also has included, absurd/slightly humorous attempts to label Jews who oppose Zionist criminality as supposed “self-hating Jews”; when the sordid history of the Zionism movement during WW2 apparently is completely unknown to said Zionist propagandists (or they just willfully ignore it) link to youtube.com

        In the end this is all fairly ironic as the Zionist movement (while liking to try to misuse the memory of WW2 era atrocities for modern propaganda of theirs, see Finkelstein’s analysis there again) actually in many ways doesn’t like to use this “argument” in relation to Zionist colonialism both yesterday and today. They much prefer the mythology (or supposed “Biblical”) angle.

        link to mondoweiss.net

        As the Zionists themselves have stated:

        “‘In Cairo, Obama was asking the Arab world to feel sorry for the Jews,’ he said, ‘and by doing so, he inadvertently played into the hands of those whose response is, ‘Well, if there was a Holocaust, let the Germans pay for it, not the Arabs. That’s a reasonable response if you don’t believe that Jews are from here.’”

      • RoHa
        November 11, 2013, 1:48 am

        “It is clear what Netanyahu was referring to: Jewish inability to defend themselves in Europe from 1939 to 1945.”

        Not clear to me. He does not, in the excerpt given, mention those dates, or that location, or restrict his comments to European Jews. He does invoke Abraham and 4000 years, which suggests he is making a more general claim.

      • Hostage
        November 11, 2013, 2:02 am

        It is clear what Netanyahu was referring to: Jewish inability to defend themselves in Europe from 1939 to 1945.

        It’s pretty clear that Netanyahu has been threatening to bomb Iranian nuclear facilities and has been killing Iranian civilian scientists and physicists. The P5 are demanding on his behalf that work on a nuclear power plant be halted, even though it’s perfectly legal for Iran to have those according to the NPT and IAEA Charter. It’s also perfectly clear that the Ayatollahs don’t even present a threat to their own Iranian Jewish community. If its 1939 again, then Netanyahu is the one who is acting like a Nazi and trying to intimidate the rest of the world in the process.

      • tree
        November 11, 2013, 3:29 am

        Oh course the irony in the speech is that, despite Netanyahu’s insistence that Jews “having a state” in Israel is what has made them able to defend themselves, he is pleading with American Jews to help defend Israel. Apparently he doesn’t really believe that the State of Israel is up to the job on its own and needs to rely on outsiders to protect it. The State of Israel spends much more time and effort exhorting foreign Jews (and non-Jews as well) to defend the State than it does protecting foreign Jews (or even Israeli Jews for that matter).

      • Elliot
        November 11, 2013, 7:34 am

        That’s so true.

      • seafoid
        November 11, 2013, 4:07 am

        Walter Arlen was 18 on Kristallnacht. He was interviewed recently in the FT.
        It’s hard listening to Netanyahu not to think that Hitler’s work continues.

        link to ft.com

        “I am not a religious Jew, my family were not religious Jews. But I feel that I am a representation of the Jewish spirit, whatever that might be. To me, it is honesty, rectitude, intellectual achievement”

      • Ellen
        November 11, 2013, 6:21 am

        yonah, and the Polish, Ukrainian, political undesirables, “liberal” professors, loud mouthed Bavarians who removed the Nazi flag from Churches, The Roma population’s, etc. on and on…inability to defend themselves against the onslaught of total faschism.

        A national state structure is not what protects anyone. Nationalistic ideas are a slippery slope of destruction. History tells the tale over and over.

      • yonah fredman
        November 11, 2013, 7:29 am

        Ellen- I don’t think nationalism is the cure for everything nor is it the best thing since sliced bread. What role nationalism should play in the Jewish future is an interesting question. I certainly don’t think that the weakness of nationalism in the face of the Nazi onslaught is sufficient to prove that nationalism should not be pursued in the specific case of the Jews. Certainly the Jews living in Israel believe that the army is the only thing standing between them and exile or minority status and a leader in the vein of Assad or Morsi. I am capable of imagining a future without a Jewish army and without a state, although I do not think that future is near. If you wish to convince me or people like me that there is no need for a Jewish state or a Jewish army, you will have to do more than to denigrate the capacities of nationalism in defending various populations from the Nazis in WWII.

        On a different note. Please don’t pretend that nationalism is over. It is not. Are Egyptians nationalist? Are Syrians nationalist? But let’s skip the middle east for the moment. Are the Chinese nationalist? Are the Russians nationalist? Nationalism, for good or ill, is alive and kicking and pretending that your negative attitude towards nationalism is shared by the rest of the world is either an intentional falsehood or a delusion. Don’t confuse your hopes with reality.

      • Ellen
        November 11, 2013, 7:38 am

        yonah, Huh?

        Projection much? With the lecture on my confusing “hopes,” my “pretend (ing) that nationalism is over,” blah blah. Who said those things? You.

        Whatever.

      • American
        November 11, 2013, 9:55 am

        “If you wish to convince me or people like me that there is no need for a Jewish state or a Jewish army, you will have to do more than to denigrate the capacities of nationalism in defending various populations from the Nazis in WWII.”…yonah

        Reality—>12 Million Jews in a world of 7.8 Billion non Jews.
        And a tiny Jewish State and Jewish Army that has done nothing but create enemies and be a constant problem for the rest of the world.
        Neither a Jewish State nor a Jewish Army will save you if you cant understand and accept that you can be both safe and Jewish –*If*—- you fit in with the rest of the world, not reject, challenge and demand all the world conform to the demands of the Zionist cult and it’s delusions.
        You were home free after WWII—-you went the wrong way with Zionism and Israel.

      • Walid
        November 11, 2013, 10:40 am

        “Jews living in Israel believe that the army is the only thing standing between them and exile or minority status and a leader in the vein of Assad or Morsi. ”

        Yonah, are you at a loss to name a couple of Jewish guys to act as role models of bad guys in your little story? Your inglorious army has been led by a succession of terrorist chiefs that in comparison to them, Assad and Morsi are like choir boys. If there is one thing I would name that would be the most probable cause of the Zionist state’s coming demise, it’s your vicious, perverted and cowardly army.

  3. Krauss
    November 10, 2013, 11:38 pm

    And this ending had an authoritarian ring to it, “the inner strength” bit, and him being king of the Jewish people

    I think you’re projecting things you want to believe about him onto that quote. I wouldn’t deny that he has all those qualities but that quote is less about him and more about communal cohesion. It’s a good quote.

    My critique is his usual blending of Iran and the Holocaust. He’s equating staying silent during the Holocaust with Iran getting nuclear capability. The Israeli intelligence establishment does not believe Iran will use their nukes. They go further than that, though, they outright reject Bibi’s attempt to paint the regime as an ‘existantial threat’. It’s a power struggle, which everyone knows. With Bibi to keep invoking the Holocaust in a geopolitcal power struggle, he cheapens the memory and commodifies it.

    • seafoid
      November 11, 2013, 4:19 am

      Krauss

      He blends Israel and the Holocaust because that is the culture they built. It’s not like there is any senior politician in Zionism who would leave it out and focus on something normal like childcare or how to improve vocational training.

      Here are the 5 top topics under the heading “Israel news” on Ha’aretz right now

      link to haaretz.com

      “GA 2013
      Kristallnacht
      Iran nuclear
      Lieberman trial
      Peace process ”

      Shufti baqa

      • Elliot
        November 11, 2013, 7:05 am

        This year’s Kristalnacht anniversary could not have come at a better time for Netanyahu. Bibi owns the Holocaust. Without the Nazis, what meaning would there be to Netanyahu’s transnational “Jewish people”? The Nazis took Frenchmen and Germans, who had nothing in common except that they each had a Jewish grandparent, and put them together in a concentration camp. They revived the idea of “the Jew” and left American Jews with Jewish guilt.
        Netanyahu is running with it. Problem is, he’s missed the boat. The Israeli, Zionist manipulation of the Holocaust as a political force is over.
        Ask Angela Merkel.

      • Walid
        November 11, 2013, 10:44 am

        “Ask Angela Merkel.”

        In what ways has Merkel changed lately? I missed it.

      • Elliot
        November 11, 2013, 12:12 pm

        @ Walkd,
        I googled “merkel and netanyahu” and got news reports from 2011 and 2012 (sorry, having trouble posting the links) in which it was public knowledge that she slammed Netanyahu over his handling of the Palestinians and Iran.

      • Walid
        November 11, 2013, 1:07 pm

        Thanks, Elliot, I asked because she always appeared as the most loyal friend of Israel, forever looking like she’s carrying the whole weight of the German guilt on her shoulders and forever looking for ways to repay Germany other than with the 6 free submarines, last year there was a widening on the limit Germany would pay to survivors of labour camps that will cost an aditional $500 million. I have a problem seeing her as anything else than a close friend of Israel.

      • Elliot
        November 11, 2013, 2:11 pm

        @walid -
        Surely, there’s no problem in Germany paying reparations for the Holocaust? The are many survivors in Israel, so that makes sense.
        It used to be the case that Israeli PMs could pick up the phone and guilt Germany into silence. Netanyahu was shocked the first time Merkel told him to shove off.

      • Ecru
        November 11, 2013, 2:46 pm

        @ Elliot

        Surely, there’s no problem in Germany paying reparations for the Holocaust?

        Paying reparations to the victims is one thing but why pay money to Israel? Amongst other things it’s not as if Israel’s ever paid reparations to the victims of the Nakba.

      • Walid
        November 11, 2013, 3:31 pm

        “@walid -
        Surely, there’s no problem in Germany paying reparations for the Holocaust? ”

        Of course there isn’t, Elliot; the problem is with all these billions from the Germans and the Swiss that would have supposedly gone to the desrving survivors ending up going to the state of Israel while there were survivors in Israel and elsewhere languishing in poverty and getting almost nothing from the reparations monies. Last year in January, there was report in which it was stated that a quarter of surviving holocaust victims in Israel are living in poverty; where are all those billions going and how are Merkel’s submarines benefitting the holocaust survivors? From Haarertz last year:

        “One-fourth of Israeli Holocaust survivors are poor, foundation says
        87 percent of Holocaust survivors who request financial aid live on less than NIS 5,000 a month, while 58 percent live on NIS 3,000 or less;

        By Jonathan Lis | Jan. 25, 2012 | 1:58 AM | 32

        Every fourth Holocaust survivor in Israel is poor, and one-third live alone – a few sobering statistics on International Holocaust Remembrance Day.

        According to the Foundation for the Benefit of Holocaust Victims in Israel, 87 percent of Holocaust survivors who request financial aid live on less than NIS 5,000 a month, while 58 percent live on NIS 3,000 or less. Meanwhile, 70 percent of survivors who turn to the foundation cannot afford dental care, and 18 percent need financial aid to pay for eyeglasses.

        According to the foundation, 10,000 Holocaust survivors in Israel have no family, and more than one-third live alone, half of them widows or widowers. Many survivors with relatives say their families are not in contact with them.

        In the past year, 12,800 Holocaust survivors died. Two-thirds of survivors are over 80; 40 percent are over 86. This year the population of survivors who need nursing care rose 12 percent.

        Of the 200,000 survivors living in Israel today, 70 percent are women. Of all survivors, 123,000 have received help from the foundation at some point, and more than half the 56,275 survivors who received assistance in 2012 live in the country’s outskirts.”

        link to haaretz.com

        Other Holocaust stories and links in Haaretz article:
        Israel is waiting for its Holocaust survivors to die
        By Amos Rubin | Feb. 6, 2013 | 4:12 AM | 9

        A survivor’s plea to the state: Stop humiliating us
        By Orly Vilnai | Feb. 19, 2013 | 7:39 PM

        92% of Israeli Holocaust survivors say country doesn’t allocate enough funds for them
        By Talila Nesher | Apr. 3, 2013 | 2:31 PM | 10

        Israeli researchers discover silver lining to Holocaust trauma
        By Dan Even | Apr. 7, 2013 | 4:44 PM | 6

        Israel to transfer NIS 400m to Holocaust survivors over four years
        By Jonathan Lis and Talila Nesher
        Apr. 8, 2013 | 5:17 PM | 1

      • Elliot
        November 11, 2013, 3:51 pm

        @walid, as you cite, this is well known stuff.
        You can hardly fault the germans for not fighting israeli corruption.
        Anyway, this new german resolve in standing up to Netanyahu’s guilt trips and not allowing themselves to be browbeaten into holocaust guilt is commendable. And if Germany can’t be guilted into backing Netanyahu, who can?

      • Walid
        November 11, 2013, 4:03 pm

        Elliot, I’m happy to hear Germany is finally standing up to Netanyahu and no longer intimidated by the past.

      • seafoid
        November 11, 2013, 4:21 pm

        The Germans have done enough. They paid billions in reparations and gave the bots enough cover at EU level. Israel never paid a cent to the Palestinians, the Lebanese, the Jordanians, the Syrians or the Egyptians.

        Zionism doesn’t do responsibility or gratefulness and that’s a basic diplomatic survival thing. I bet most diplomats privately hate them.

        Merkel let Greece swing- she’s no softie either. She could bring the Bild Zeitung around on Israel if required too.

      • Walid
        November 11, 2013, 4:47 pm

        After the Swiss banks, there is talk about going after the insurance companies and they are now on the case of the French railways, the “Société Nationale des Chemins de fer Français” since last year because during the war, the company had obeyed the Nazi’s orders to transport 77,000 French Jews to the camps and was paid for it. Now the American “lobby” is getting involved by passing an act in the Senate that would allow Holocaust survivors to claim against the French Railways:

        “Holocaust Survivors Applaud Senate Re-Introduction of Holocaust Rail Justice Act

        August 6, 2013

        Bi-Partisan Senators Back Bill Aiding Justice for Holocaust Survivors

        July 31, 2013

        The Coalition for Holocaust Rail Justice – a coalition of Holocaust survivors, family members, historians and volunteers — today applauded Senator Charles Schumer and colleagues from both parties for re-introducing the Holocaust Rail Justice Act in the U.S. Senate. The legislation would provide Holocaust survivors a forum to bring claims against the French rail company, Société Nationale des Chemins de Fer Français (SNCF) for the commission of war crimes by permitting jurisdiction in U.S. courts.

        “The Holocaust Rail Justice Act would finally enable survivors and family members to hold this French rail company accountable in a court of law for sending thousands to their death during World War II, and allow survivors and family members an opportunity for justice,” Schumer said in a press release announcing the Senate reintroduction.

        SNCF transported tens of thousands of Jews and other so-called undesirables toward death camps during World War II. The company, which was paid per head and per kilometer for these transports, has never paid reparations or been held accountable for its actions. Today, SNCF and its American subsidiaries are seeking lucrative, taxpayer-funded rail contracts in the United States.

        “It has been more than 70 years since the first SNCF transports from Drancy toward Nazi death camps, yet I still remember the haunting night I jumped from an SNCF train bound for Auschwitz as if it was yesterday,” said Leo Bretholz, a Baltimore resident who is one of roughly 650 SNCF victims seeking justice from the French rail company for its role in the Holocaust. “While SNCF works to whitewash its image with its public relations spin campaign, my fellow survivors and I will continue to tell the story and fight for justice.”

        link to holocaustrailvictims.org

        French Railways is currently bidding on a TGV line for Florida and another for California and American lawmakers have threatened it that if it doesn’t go along with the holocaust reparations, it will be taken out of the bidding for the 2 proposed rail lines.

      • American
        November 11, 2013, 4:56 pm

        says:
        November 11, 2013 at 2:11 pm

        @walid -
        Surely, there’s no problem in Germany paying reparations for the Holocaust? The are many survivors in Israel, so that makes sense.
        >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

        Actually there is a problem.
        It is this, there were only 50,000 some actual holocaust/camp survivors at the end of the war. (re US gov. Allies, Red Cross, H-Mus. stats)
        The Jews that Israel now calls survivors were ‘displaced persons’ not actual camp survivors.
        So what wrong with paying all the ‘displaced’ Jews?
        Nothing except they were 10-20% of all the displaced war victims and none of the other displaced victims got paid anything by Germany.
        Israel’s definition of holocaust survivor is any Jews who were living in or ‘left’ any country occupied the Germans during WWII.
        Now they have gone further than that and have demanded compensation for Jews that lived in any country not even occupied and not even in the war that had any restrictions on Jews at all.
        I dont know how many billions have been collected from Germany and everyone else by the zionist but its more than enough for every real holocaust survivor to have lived in comfort the rest of their days, so you have to ask —where has all the money gone?
        Its a Zionist con game.

      • Elliot
        November 11, 2013, 11:16 pm

        I dont know how many billions have been collected from Germany and everyone else by the zionist but its more than enough for every real holocaust survivor to have lived in comfort the rest of their days

        I don’t know either. I do know a Holocaust survivor who collects a monthly pension from the Austrian government. Very appropriate.

      • yonah fredman
        November 11, 2013, 11:54 pm

        American- I have not done research on Holocaust reparations, but I do know that I had relatives murdered by the Nazis invading the Soviet Union and I had relatives who were forced to flee Europe due to the invasion of Belgium and France and nobody received a dime from Germany for those murders and that dislocation and based upon that lack of compensation, I find your (enough money for) “every real holocaust survivor to have lived in comfort the rest of their days” as ignorant and offensive.

      • RoHa
        November 12, 2013, 1:34 am

        “based upon that lack of compensation, I find your (enough money for) “every real holocaust survivor to have lived in comfort the rest of their days” as ignorant and offensive.”

        Why? American is saying that the money which should have come to them was ripped off by the Israeli government or some such.
        He might be wrong about that, but, if you haven’t done the research to prove it, I don’t see how you can call him ignorant.
        And what is offensive about saying that your relatives were denied their due by the Zionists?

      • Walid
        November 12, 2013, 2:11 am

        “I find your (enough money for) “every real holocaust survivor to have lived in comfort the rest of their days” as ignorant and offensive.”

        Yonah, offensive is Israel collecting reparations monies on the backs of the survivors and using it not to give a better life to those very survivors that deserve it but to advance the Zionist agenda of bringing more Jews to Israel such as using the monies to build apartment buildings for new arrivals from Brooklyn and elsewhere while leaving survivors to languish in poverty in Israel and elsewhere, or sweeping under the rug the scandal in the misappropriation of the reparations monies collected by the managers of the fund while holocaust survivors have to practically beg the Israeli government to raise the stipend they are getting.

        Nobody here, not American or myself have said or implied that holocaust victims don’t deserve every dollar coming to them and I’m sure they will never receive enough for what was done to them. What is being discussed is simply Israel’s misuse of the reparations money; a book was written about it.

  4. Hostage
    November 10, 2013, 11:46 pm

    I find it odd that they’ve convened the General Assembly of the Jewish Federations of North America half-way around the world in a Southwest Asian city. What’s even worse is that this tax exempt boondoggle isn’t being used for social welfare or social service, but rather to promote the very narrow-minded interests of a foreign power.

    • jon s
      November 11, 2013, 1:02 am

      Every five years the GA is convened in Jerusalem.

      • Hostage
        November 11, 2013, 1:52 am

        Every five years the GA is convened in Jerusalem.

        They should stay at home and tend to their own business and not be stirring up conflicts between foreign powers. If they can’t, then let them apply for tax exempt status there and let them stay in Israel.

  5. tear-stained uzi
    November 11, 2013, 12:22 am

    I know that we have that inner strength to guarantee the [White Christian] future. I know it and you know it; together we’re going to achieve exactly that – to defend and secure the [White Christian] people and the one and only [White Christian] state. I say that here in our eternal capital, [Birmingham], and I know, I know that you stand with me.

    ~ David Duke of the Desert

  6. seafoid
    November 11, 2013, 12:50 am

    “Jews haven’t come through 4 millennia “to have the likes of the ayatollahs threaten our life.” ”

    I dunno either if they came through 4 millennia to be led by a used car salesman with paranoid schizophrenia.

  7. seafoid
    November 11, 2013, 1:01 am

    “it is possible right now, given the precariousness and vulnerability of the Iranian economy, to press forward the demand for Iran to dismantle its nuclear bomb-making capacity. That’s what I expect from every one of you, and I know it’s achievable. And it’s important.”

    I can’t believe there aren’t snippets like this linking Bibi and his people to Iraq. Or is it just that they weren’t forced to be so open 10 years ago?

  8. ToivoS
    November 11, 2013, 1:01 am

    Many of us have felt for some time that Netanyahu is losing touch with reality. This speech is too much. If he believes he can dictate US policy towards Iran by appealing directly to American Jews in this way then I do think he has lost touch with reality. On the other hand, maybe it is I that has lost touch with reality and Netanyahy can can give orders to American Jews who will mobilize to thwart the policies of the elected President of the United States.

    Maybe Netanyahu has a better understanding of US politics than I do. Whoever is right he has certainly thrown down the gauntlet and challenged every American who cares about American national interest to rise up and take him and his agents on in direct political struggle.

    What can we do? Well the obvious is to contact our House Representative and Senators and let them know what we think. That is our usual reaction. Somehow we should do more.

    Perhaps we should inform our friends and colleagues about Netanyahu’s actual order to his American supporters and ask them if they agree that a foreign nation should actively advocate resistance to the policies of an American president. There is a precedent for this. The Soviet Union tried to convince American communists to resist US foreign policy after WWII. We all know how that turned out. Somehow I think the Israelis will lose big time in this debate.

    My suggestion in the above paragraph has ugly implications. I know I would have trouble raising these issues but it does seem that Israel is forcing this discussion.

    • seafoid
      November 11, 2013, 4:21 am

      “Many of us have felt for some time that Netanyahu is losing touch with reality”.

      Netanyahu thinks he knows where the American political g-spot is.
      It’s actually the prostrate but he doesn’t realize.

      • bintbiba
        November 11, 2013, 8:22 am

        Clever, clever, seafoid!!
        You always bring a chuckle …along with words of wisdom.

  9. yonah fredman
    November 11, 2013, 1:05 am

    Unfortunately I do not have the time or the patience to research what would be a reasonable compromise with the Iranians. It is feasible that leaving Iran as a nuclear threshold nation is not a good idea. It is feasible that it is the only real deal in town. The population of the US after the debacle of Iraq (or semi debacle) and frustration abroad and a weak economy at home is turning inward at least to the point that saber rattling is not consistent with the will of the people. If leaving Iran as nuclear threshold is the only deal in town, the American people would say, take the deal and I do not think that supporters of Israel can really say that this confrontation with Iran needs to continue for the sake of the United States and since the interests of America are not contradicted by the deal, there is no ground to oppose the deal, unless one has done sufficient research and can justify the need to rein in Iran to the extent that Netanyahu has in mind.

    • Djinn
      November 11, 2013, 1:31 am

      Don’t need to do much research to follow the logic that if Iran, a country that may at some point in the future be nuclear armed but has not attacked anyone in hundreds of years, needs to be reined in, then surely a nation that absolutely IS nuclear armed, has invaded ALL of its neighbours and is currently occupying some as well, should p’raps be reined in too.

  10. talknic
    November 11, 2013, 1:23 am

    Poor Mr Netanyahu. He really has lost the plot

    ” the demand for Iran to dismantle its nuclear bomb-making capacity. “

    What nuclear bomb-making capacity? Accusations based on speculation treated as fact are not evidence of anything … except perhaps insanity

  11. Ecru
    November 11, 2013, 1:50 am

    Is this idiot intent on laying the groundwork for massive upsurge in antisemitism* and another holocaust or what?

    One more war in the Middle East and it’s quite likely Jews will NOT be safe outside Israel because they’ll ALL be tarred with the warmonger brush, deserved or not. Maybe that’s what he wants, Jews having to flee to Israel. Staving off that “demographic threat.” Zionists after all do have form for attacking their own for some perceived benefit to the Judenreich.

    * The real stuff not the fantasy the ADL and now the JPL are on about.

  12. amigo
    November 11, 2013, 5:24 am

    Netanyahu calls on American Citizens to help him commit WAR CRIMES.

    To you American citizens I say !!!!! Resist this war monger,s genocidal dreams.

    Save Israel and forget about The Greater Israel.

    Or better still, fight for a Democratic State with equality and justice for all.

    Not just Jews.

    You have a say.Use it properly.

  13. Justpassingby
    November 11, 2013, 6:04 am

    So netanyahu say jews in america put Israel before America?

    Israel raise antisemitism..again.

  14. Shmuel
    November 11, 2013, 6:16 am

    When the Jewish people were silent on matters relating to our survival, you know what happened…. We are charged with defending ourselves and we are charged with speaking up. And it is time now to speak up – all of us. All of us have to stand up now and be counted. I can think of nothing that is as important and as crucial … it is possible right now, given the precariousness and vulnerability of the Iranian economy, to press forward the demand for Iran to dismantle its nuclear bomb-making capacity. That’s what I expect from every one of you, and I know it’s achievable. And it’s important.

    John of Giscala said something similar, and “you know what happened”:

    But for John, he was very little concerned for those whom he had left behind him, but went about among all the people, and persuaded them to go to war, by the hopes he gave them. He affirmed that the affairs of the Romans were in a weak condition, and extolled his own power. He also jested upon the ignorance of the unskillful, as if those Romans, although they should take to themselves wings, could never fly over the wall of Jerusalem, who found such great difficulties in taking the villages of Galilee, and had broken their engines of war against their walls.
    link to perseus.tufts.edu

    • Ellen
      November 11, 2013, 6:32 am

      thank you Shmuel. We know what happened. And it is fair to say that Israel’s leader will also be a tragic footnote in history.

      Right now I think most American Jews who are aware of Netanyahu’s speech over the weekend are cringing. It is an embarrasement and not being covered in the US press.

      • Elliot
        November 11, 2013, 6:37 am

        Ellen, I find that encouraging. Netanyahu calls the Jews to war. Problem is, nobody knows about it. He just can’t get the American media to get the message out to the Jews.

      • American
        November 11, 2013, 9:16 am

        Elliot says:
        November 11, 2013 at 6:37 am

        Ellen, I find that encouraging. Netanyahu calls the Jews to war. Problem is, nobody knows about it. He just can’t get the American media to get the message out to the Jews.>>>>>>>

        Hadnt thought about that –but the I-First msm media is between a rock and hard place on this arent they?
        Broadcasting Netanyahu’s call to war to US Jews would not go over well with the general US public and put Jews on the spot.
        On the other hand if the msm was broadcasting this it could be good—US Jews hearing it might get really, really ticked off at the Zio’s trying to pit them against the US government and it could be the spark for them to tear down the unelected world wide Zio Jewish ‘leadership’.

    • Philip Weiss
      November 11, 2013, 8:57 am

      I didn’t know who John of Giscala was till you put this up, Shmuel. Thanks for great intervention

  15. Shingo
    November 11, 2013, 6:49 am

    Netanyahu also said that Iran was threatening the U.S., but that was later.

    As with Iran’s so alleged nukes, Israel’s intelligence community disagrees with him.

    Israeli Intelligence Sources Contradict Bibi, Congress on Iran
    link to lobelog.com

  16. Truthbug
    November 11, 2013, 7:33 am

    This speech by this hysterical Jew typically taps into a cultural PTSD of Judaism, and of course, the question remains whether the Western Jewish community can see this fellow Jew as hysterical and whether this cultural PTSD is still strong enough to dominate their thinking.

    • Citizen
      November 11, 2013, 8:26 am

      @ Truthbug
      There’s the other side of Netanyahu’s emotional appeal to American Jews, his war against assimilation, at what use to be praised as an American value, “the melting pot.” link to jpost.com

      He has effectively declared a mythic state of war on Iran and Intermarriage. In his eyes nobody is an individual, nor to be treated as such. He asks all jews to pledge Eternal war against Holocaust and Silent Holocaust, the enemy outside, the enemy within…

  17. Ramzi Jaber
    November 11, 2013, 8:37 am

    Nutnyahoo unhinged, gone off the rails so I couldn’t resist this with thanks to Randy Bachman ;-))

    He’s come undone
    He didn’t mind what he was headed for
    And when USA found what he was headed for
    It was too late

    He’s come undone
    He found a mountain that was far too high
    And when he found out he couldn’t fly
    It was too late

    It’s too late
    He’s gone too far
    He’s lost the Jews
    He’s come undone

    He preached truth
    But all he gave was lies
    Came the time to realize
    But it was too late

    Too many Palestinians and not enough settlers to steal
    Too many Iranians and not enough planes to attack
    Too many Moslems and not enough missiles to bomb
    Too many anti-Semites to fight and not enough time

    It’s too late
    He’s gone too far
    He’s lost the Jews
    He’s come undone

    USA it was too late!

  18. just
    November 11, 2013, 9:23 am

    A madman exhibiting his fist and frown, exhorting people to fight forever.

    I find the blue and white banner behind this warmonger a complete oxymoron and joke.

    What “place for dialogue and debate”? And who is he to say:

    ““That’s what I expect from every one of you, and I know it’s achievable.””

    He has no right to “expect” anything from anyone– nothing but derision. He hurts Israel and Jews every single day while he is busy doing his utmost to oppress/ kill/ and steal from the indigenous Palestinians.

    • Walid
      November 11, 2013, 11:21 am

      “I find the blue and white banner behind this warmonger a complete oxymoron.”

      Just, if you’d look up “pomegranate” that’s also on that blue and white banner, you’d find a very interesting article on the symbolism of this fruit, especially to Jews:

      link to en.wikipedia.org

  19. seafoid
    November 11, 2013, 9:33 am

    I wish I were Jewish.
    I wish I could go to the GA and play this to Netanyahu

    link to youtube.com

    and get the whole joint singing “I don’t want you to love me”

  20. Ludwig
    November 11, 2013, 1:30 pm

    Amazing speech. Very powerful. Great logic. Please watch.

    • Shingo
      November 11, 2013, 5:15 pm

      I agree Ludwig. An amazing example if someone having a psychotic mental breakdown on camera.

      Please watch.

    • Talkback
      November 12, 2013, 5:32 pm

      Ludwig says: “Amazing speech. Very powerful. Great logic. Please watch.”

      Another Hasbara fake testimonial. LOL.

  21. justicewillprevail
    November 11, 2013, 7:04 pm

    Delusional, demagogic, despotic, a danger to himself and to others. This man should be put under psychiatric watch immediately.

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