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Annie Robbins
Annie Robbins is Editor at Large for Mondoweiss, a mother, a human rights activist and a ceramic artist. She lives in the SF bay area. Follow her on Twitter @anniefofani
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it's gone viral, this is the top story googling news for israel. from AP
link to winnipeg.ctv.ca
"Tamari and Doughman's cases were first reported on the left-wing blog Mondoweiss."
If ...If ...which is why...they were anti-Israel activists ...they were prominent... cover up
yawn spin rinse repeat
anytime john. i recall only one time an entire thread disappeared. long time ago pre moderation. it was kinda funny too. rachel lost her bearings and let it all hang out. when i awoke in the morning the conversation was gone.
john, are you talking about this comment?
link to mondoweiss.net
also, are you aware you can click on a persons name and it pulls up their archives? that is how i found your comment responding to fred. the two threads were one day apart and both relating to the same topic so it is understandable there may have been some confusion.
and when dealing with customs inspectors in israel, don't be arab. TWA, Traveling While Arab.
it is so shameful the holyland is under the jurisdiction of this horrendous apartheid government. how different things might have been had jerusalem been under the jurisdiction of the UN. shame shame shame.
The Secretary and the Prime Minister are fully on board with the notion that the US Ambassador to Israel and the Israeli Ambassador to the US should be the same person.
excuse me? do you have any supporting links? i'd love to read them.
not sure if i agree with this definition HB. where did it come from?
perhaps you misunderstood me oleg. my comment was not directed at the deportation.
oh, thanks inanna. for some reason i thought i recalled something she had said about that. wrt her children. my mistake.
me too Inanna,but from a certain perspective, it couldn't have happened to a 'better' person. this reminds of of Roqayah Chamseddine's father Joseph and IHOP. they picked on the wrong person. i hope this gets lots and lots of attention. already this post has gotten almost 200 shares, the attention of the state department and hopefully the attention of the White House. she's either not a radical, or she's the new face of radicalism, a hardworking peace loving activist wife and mother. she's an american and she's being ignored because she's palestinian. we need to throw a fit. this is an unfair and discriminatory response from our embassy.
an excellent example of noura erakat's Constructing the Prototypical Terrorist in America: Arab, Muslim, and Palestinian.
link to mondoweiss.net
she was looking for them to stop Israel from deporting her
she may have been looking for more than that!
The last name “Tamari” is also a Jewish name.
avi, it is my understanding her husband is jewish. although it could be her maiden name. i never inquired.
Sandra Tamari is a stellar person, absolutely stellar.
Palestinians were the restaurant cooks, the dishwashers, the janitors and construction workers for Israelis.
not in perpetuity. otherwise there never would have been the great book robbery.
"They are black, they have diseases"
link to haaretz.com
At one point of the demonstration, the protesters attacked Hananya Vanda, an Israeli citizen of Ethiopian origin who they mistakenly identified as an immigrant. After they realized Vanda is Jewish, the protesters said that they did not mean to attack him.
Israel was the one on the “attack”, sure thing again
israel had just kidnapped 2 brothers from gaza the week before. they perpetually hold people in 'administrative detention' which is essentially kidnapping them. israel is always on the attack. hezbollah was trying to hold some of their soldiers to trade which they have done in the past. israel knew this. israel wanted to get their war on, they had been planning it. this has already been revealed, just as they planned the gaza massacre. so we are all hip to this hasbara you've got running here. the poor israel is the victim routine and they just had to get their war on. phff.
what a sad sad story. what an incredible film.
this was an exceptional evening at Sha’ar Zahav. everything and everyone was buzzing with anticipation,there was a swelling of good vibes in the synagogue. i loved being there. we started with a song in yiddish. they passed out a flyer with the words in yiddish and english but we sang in yiddish and it's not so easy to read! but the chorus of our voices was loud and clear oy! oy! oy! it was fun and with a beautiful spirit. all the presenters were very moving, very unique in their own way. it was a wonderful evening and there was a place for everyone to participate. when it was over no one left, everyone mingled around.
the library's loss was congregation Sha’ar Zahav's gain. and my gain. thank you rae and thanks to all the people who kept this going. what a shame for some members of the local community to be attempting to ostracize such an amazing person as rae. she is a leader and it is them who will be left behind by their outrageous divide. there was a lot of community in that synagogue and a lot of history was shared.
you pick great excerpts, kate too. when i read your comment....i was reminded of what i had just read. each and everyone of these stories there is so much more. and of course we do become desensitized because if we did not we would go insane. culmatively it is overwhelming.
and sometimes it does just get to me. often it does.
you said it RoHa!
i am definitely going to see this film.
thank you Abdeen Jabara.
;)
so what? if they did they would still not accept the tickets.
i agree they do make the point dbroncos. notice how oleg bailed on the conversation as soon as i asked him to show us this alleged 'debate' in american foreign policy over i/p. silence. they all know there will be hell to pay if they do not fall in line.
here's more from the jta link
and who wrote the 'capabilities' legislation? this is the israeli government position and who is it that pressures our gov to adopt the israeli position:
The moves in Congress aim to bring the United States closer to Israel’s red line?
The moves OF THE LOBBY aim to bring the United States closer to Israel’s red line. that is what they are there for, to bring the US government in line with what israel wants. obviously!
and the closing is quite apt:
"Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) thanked those who attended, and in a sly reference to the heavy Jewish representation in the Democratic caucus -- 13 of 53 members -- he added, “I’d especially like to thank my gentile colleagues for being here.”"
yeah, how nice of the gentiles to show up, although it's completely unnecessary.
so again, and do not pretend like you do not understand me. what debate?
if Israel were dictating american policy there wouldn’t be any
kind of debate over I/P
what debate? there is no debate in congress. none, or maybe you missed the 29 standing ovations and the 0-100 aipac supporting iran sanctions bill.
Annie you are talking to me now not your mythical hasbarists.
i noticed you copy pasted a sentence of mine and evaded addressing my point. you hardly need to copy/paste my statement to claim you are not a hasbarist. so back to the point, you come here and essentially claim phil has no right to an opinion but you do, based on Until such a time that a Jew makes Alia this place is eventually not his in any meaningful sense.
iow, make alia or stfu. isn't that your pt? yet you reserve the right for yourself to come on an american site and spread your opinion. you are being hypocritical.
lost you after that since i never said all those things that you attribute to me.
yada yada yada, you said this: not all Jews live here or have citizenship that gives them legitimacy to try and dictate Israeli policy
too confusing for you? what debate? there is no debate in congress. the lobby dictates american foreign policy.
link to jta.org
that would be the legislation written by aipac, the legislation obama warned against passing because it went too far. these are dem congress people, who voted against the advise of their own president to kowtow to the lobby.
it goes on and on, so WHAT debate. please link.
Annie i am expressing my own opinion here take it or leave it.
oleg, phil is expressing his own opinion here take it or leave it. harbaristas have no problem touting the 'state of the jews' when they want all the american jews to stand behind them and when one doesn't it's all of a sudden 'get off my turf'
not all Jews live here or have citizenship that gives them legitimacy to try and dictate Israeli policy
when israel stops dictating american policy via their lobby i might take your concerns more seriously. but they do not. they are busy force-feeding legislation down the throats of the american public, most recently thru a man who had suffered a debilitating stroke..and his primary concern appears to be stripping palestinian refugees of their rights. he could have a lobotomy and they'd be highjacking his role in the senate.
i've had it with this hands off israel attitude. as long as the state of israel is using the american jewish community to prop up the apartheid state it is my business and it is phil's business too. so your bloviations about 'move here or shut up' is just diversionary troll like behavior designed to highjack the comment section. AGAIN.
what are you doing here? your role is completely hypocritical. this is an american site. by your own standards your voice doesn't belong. move here if you want a say!
He is talking about political structures that indeed exist, for now at least. And why is it so important, the fact the AIPAC is pro Israeli lobby is not
exactly news.
because it impacts the legislation our congress deals with daily. because aipac writes legislation and everyone knows it. because everyone knows it that is no reason to be silent. it very much is 'exactly news'. it is a massive power structure impacting our foreign policy and it's awful and ugly.
it’s not yours until you live here
do you have a link to support this? i keep reading about israel being the jewish state. if there's a link saying it is only the state of jews who live in israel let me see it.
very powerful phil
thank you allison. i visited the tunnels once.had the opportunity to go down but i declined.
it's infuriating, the humiliation israel demands of palestinians.
I’m an American..... but I could be mistaken...I don’t know why you have to hate Israel, but you do...I believe I have pointed this out to you before, but I could be mistaken..I’m an American..I don’t know why you, I don’t know why you, I don’t know why you.. I could be mistaken you have to hate Israel..
Why would you stay in a place where your true worth can’t be recognized?
he's a glutton for punishment! can't you tell?
your argument would sound less desperate if you didn't rely on the hate crutch. accusing ones advisory of hatred is a staple for hasbarists.
no one knows what resides in another, so when you say..i don't know..i just know..it sounds childish. it's a threadjack accusation.
really interesting seafoid. as it turns out this reviewer was a member of the audience (Teaching Associate in Shakespeare and Early Modern Drama at the University of Nottingham and a reviewer of Shakespearean theatre for several academic journals).not a protestor for either side, nor a supporter of the boycott, a witness:
time magazine follows on the nyt article
link to techland.time.com
and here's another
Confirmed: US and Israel created Stuxnet, lost control of it
link to arstechnica.com
They are blissfully sitting on the sidelines growing their economy while they watch Israel bleed us to death in the ME.
exactly.
here is a video from Symantec Corp that describes how the virus works:
link to symantec.com
link to youtube.com!
the nyt article cited Symantec Corp
and here is a link to Symantec's 'white paper' W32.Stuxnet Dossier: link to symantec.com
a child is not culpable because he may grow up to be in a threat...this is crazy talk. adults perhaps,but not the kids. so i think it's much less than 95%.
ps, per your email, the idea i would be 'frightened' by this comment of yours and therefore it would be 'held back' is absurd.
winnie, the only reason i am taking the time to respond to this comment is because it was so important to you, you evidently felt the need to send it to my inbox.
your long response illustrates one of the characteristics of discussions on Mondoweiss: the reluctance to evaluate sources by quality, and the propensity to evaluate them by content.
what are you talking about? i did not, then nor now evaluate the information,nor do i intend to as i explained earlier ("it is unlikely i would ever take a position on how this event occurred for i do not have any background or understanding of science."). i didn't even open your 'godlike' links, if that why you accuse us of "reluctant to evaluate a source by quality".
you're diverting. you'd rather talk about your own links than the msm ones i linked to.
a set of crackpot websites versus the mainstream media about what Stuxnet did or didn’t do: who knows? They’re all equally on the internet so how are we to tell?
but you are the one who linked to the crackpot websites. i only have so many hrs in the day, excuse me for ignoring them.
if it supports an Israeli narrative it must be hasbara, being disseminated by “ziobots”; if it damns Israel, there can be no doubt it’s simple self evident truth.
i get it. you'd rather make a point no one is arguing than address anything i said. i responded to your statement i placed in italics at the beginning of the exchange, that is all. i used easily accessible msm websites available on a simple google search to show you that just because you'd never heard of something means..nothing. it's not an argument.
next you reference my 'position', then my alleged 'support for narrative'.
go find someone else to discuss this with, i have no position on this topic nor am i qualified to have a position.
goodbye.
btw, i found the examiner link by opening the first video in the search which posted the link below it. iow, i didn't have to look far. look at the time stamps on your comment and mine, that is how long it took me to find this. sowhen you say I never read anywhere, basically it means you have not ever searched. it took less than 5 minutes and another 5 minutes to document my brief search.
my position? what position? i am not a scientific person nor do i have an opinion regarding what happened nor have i ever researched it since the event until this little search. a lot of the commentary i have encountered about the event in the past i glossed over as i do most scientific information.
i was inspired by your comment so i did a quick google search.
btw, when researching the holocaust one can always find questionable websites, but i don't have the time or interest in checking them out. examples from godlikeproductions are not evidence credible sources do not exist. not sure what your point is with those links.
my point was, and is, that just because you have never read anywhere that stuxnet had any sort of capabillity to effect functioning reactors at all does not mean information is not out there and it took me all of a few minutes to find it, the very first time i ever looked.
i do not take positions on huge catastrophic events with a 5 minute search, nor do use websites of a dubious nature. it is unlikely i would ever take a position on how this event occurred for i do not have any background or understanding of science.
but again, my point is, apparently this is a topic that is debated amongst professionals (as i discovered opening the link to moret's bio) which i found out a few minutes ago, thanks to your comment. i don't think i even would have bothered looking in response to C&D's 'rumor' comment. apparently it is more than a rumor, and cbs's link was right at the top! hardly a source for conspiracy theories.
I never read anywhere that stuxnet had any sort of capabillity to effect functioning reactors at all.
try googling Stuxnet virus nuclear reactors
link to cbsnews.com
In all the endless verbiage about it, this claim was naver made.
try googling Fukushima Stuxnet virus
link to examiner.com
the video interview with Leuren Moret is available at the link
Now I am having to refind everything
you could start with your own comments..Searching for: loan guarantees (8 results found)
link to mondoweiss.net
;)
american, we were just talking about this on another thread. here's tree
link to mondoweiss.net
The word “first” refers to both sequence and priority. “Israel-firster” goes to the priority meaning
sequence is often, largely, a statement on priority. and israel firster can mean sequence. it simply means putting israel first.
Advising the Israel government before advising the US government goes to the sequence meaning, which may or may not have anything to do with the priorities.
can you give me an example of how US officials 'advising' israelis prior to advising the US gov does not indicate prioritizing israel?
also, excellent comment denis!
thanks lysias, your references are always awesome.
misspoke? how could he misspeak using a term no one ever uses? are we being introduced to new phraseology via the president?
gruesome. someone put that there and someone, the president, should apologize and retract.
sweet..a current 6 page smear job on kirk. this is right up my alley. skewer him.
don't yell at me. No, the Act requires only registration it's still not 'free', in the sense foreign agents cannot come to this country representing a foreign government and have your free speech protected without a process. free means free.
they are dumping tons of money to fight the 'deligitimazation' all over this country, college campuses etc. these are not individuals, this is the gov. and they are not doing it for purely commercial nature or solely of a religious, scholastic, academic, scientific or fine arts nature.
i'm done discussing this with you.
Anyone, including foreigners have the right of free speech in America.
not everyone. some have to register (and there is probably a fee). Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA) requires "public disclosure by persons engaging in propaganda activities and other activities for or on behalf of foreign governments, foreign political parties, and other foreign principals.”
newclench "here I was thinking that Israel uses cultural activities to promote itself as something other than a ‘normal’ nation"
you'd be wrong. the overriding theme is 'share our values', they promote themselves as being normal. that's what anti normalization is all about. not letting israel get away with promoting itself as normal because it is an anti democratic apartheid oppressive state.
not sure what the laws are in the UK. as i recall, in the US, representative of foreign governments are not afforded free speech in public places. not sure if this applies in this circumstance.
so are you just shooting from the hip when you say Of course performing a play is an exercise of free speech. or did you read it somewhere?
can the government of china send performers to this country and demand a platform on the pretense of free speech?
makes the day taste like tears
i know, that is why i called it bittersweet. according to ma'an his thesis was " on the socio-economic factors that affect the choice of degree subject for undergraduate students." i can imagine how it would be very difficult to study in your chosen field knowing you may never have the opportunity to practice in that field. but they keep moving forward. i was amazed at how educated (how many degrees) so many of the palestinians i met had, in both gaza and the WB. certainly more educated than myself and much more drive.
are you the Karen DeVito from the Canadian Boat to Gaza?
diana, i actually used a derivative of that word in the last sentence in my post. it didn't quite make it thru the editorial process. (can you hear the big sucking sound between 'this' and 'military'?)
just sayin', we think alike.
hey refaat, if not for your tweet i may have missed this amazing story. thank you once again.
thanks abu malia. i cried while i was drafting it, absorbing his mother's words.
also visualizing her driving to work, furious and with intent. contacting the school..all of these things while comprehending her son in jail..for no reason. possibly being tortured.
Why Annie, are you saying Citizen is prevaricating or embroidering?
i just reviewed what he wrote. i was originally reading off your comment.
citizen, did people really spit at you?
the left hates the smell of the working class and the poor more than they hate the wars those same working class and poor go and fight.
whoa, that's a pretty intense statement. a lot of the working classisleft. at least where i live.
What the hell is your game, gazacalling?
oh god open the floodgates why don't you mooser, what are you thinking?
Got a cite for that?
no,thereis not one photo or journalistic citing from the time. it was a cooked up propaganda thing. it's been researched.
i missed you mrw (can't say how much..too embarrassing)
the neocon 'new' map gives it a big chunk of iran. it looks like it absorbs the iranian cities of zanjan and rashat.
link to globalresearch.ca
thanks. i was completely out of the loop in 89. no tv, no news. in mommy bliss.
thank you marc,i linked to porter's excellent article (last link in the main text "Who was behind the Delhi bombing?") but had not heard of the second quoted paragraph. was that from this msm article? i had not heard of it before, thanks.
link to chron.com
yes, i have read all about that. here is the 2004 story in the guardian:
link to guardian.co.uk
new zealand passports are coveted by mossad.
and that's only midway thru! not only that, it's challenging finding all that's been written about it (there was more available last year). when i googled "israeli 5 passports" the first post that popped up had a really offensive title..clearly we are not supposed to be exploring why mossad agents need all these extra passports.
ha! i am really glad i wrote this prior to b's publication (granted it wasn't published for a few hrs later) and before i read it. he's so righton.
at the very least the bbc mentioned the source was funded by NED, who openingly admits
They are so inept and transparent they can’t even cook up a credible conspiracy
maybe they assume we'll think 'that is so outlandish it simply must be true!'
nothing surprises me about wapo, they are so in the bag.
"Neocons in Washington Post: Military strike on Iran would ‘calm nerves in the region’
link to mondoweiss.net
Silencers? Seriously?
LOL, my sentiments exactly.
i urge people to open the link to "the US National Endowment for Democracy " and scroll down to "Covert embedded reporters", "Meddling in Syria", and "Meddling in Egypt".
above board? i don't think so.
Uri blau should have stayed in europe.
Is he really saying what I think he is saying. Would Palestinians have a more credible military option if they resort to “Terrorism”.
any option used by a palestinian would be considered terrorism by those who do not recognize their right to bear arms or defend themselves. so there is no 'terrorism aside' for people who think this way. these is simply no military option palestinians could employ that would not be defined as terrorism.
if the target is israeli or jewish, it's always called terrorism.
Was this right or was this wrong
in the words of daniel pipes: the holocaust happened; time to get real.
link to mondoweiss.net
it is because the landowners say they can’t, not because the government or someone unconnected with the transaction says they can’t.
oh, you can't just make crap up. this is documented. the neighborhood committees had jnf reps on them.
It relies on the US primarily for diplomatic support.
you mean like the diplomacy we're carrying out w/iran to protect israel.
hahahahaha
There was a bill a while ago that would have allowed communities to say “no Arabs” or for that matter allow Arab communities to say “no Jews”. But that was voted down.
instead they approved the neighborhood commitiees who provide the same function, sans the messy sounding legislation. no dif.
you mean pre may 14th 48. that was the day the israelis changed the name of the war, thereby claiming the ongoing violence was initiated by the neighboring states, after they had already expelled hundreds of thousands of palestinians.
sorry for being repetitive.
cut to the chase oleg, Palestinian rights end where Jewish claim to rights begin eh.
there is no recognized right of self determination where it strips another of their human rights.
is that what gilad was referencing ? 'zero weight of
Jewish historythe holocaust is added to the equation, the formula, of how and what balance means.'you think the holocaust doesn't get enough attention in the balance of things in palestine? and how is it the holocaust justifies the nakba?
you're using the holocaust like a get of of jail free card.
neta! after reading trees link went on youtube and searched for you and watched an interview and everything i could find. thank you so much for all you do! i hope to meet you someday. perhaps when i visit ramallah.
;)
i don't know how i missed that video before. perhaps i just skipped over it. he's the most extreme kind of radical. driving fear in to people that they will all be killed by choosing any other option but his hideous declarations.
thank you so much for the link and the quote tree.
Here i am stuck in the middle with you :)
hardly, you're free to leave anytime. and there is nothing 'in the middle' about your postings. cheerio.
just realized you may have mistook my meaning, which was my reaction to lovely just lovely, not really...very lovely.
but it certainly has a lot of truth in it.
Israelis are either greedy or paranoid or both driven by guilt and fear they murder the Palestinians and steal their land to build.....Lovely just lovely
not really lovely.
heartwarming article Neta, thanks you so much. i have a question for you. you said I first started visiting the occupied Palestinian Territories I was, like most Israelis, terrified of Arabs. It took me years to chip my way through this fear.
how did you happen to start visiting the oPT if you were terrified of the people? did you know in your mind there was another, better way and for this reason you pushed beyond your fears? or was there something else motivating your visits, a job or something that took you there?
Jews of Palestine were also indigenous
yeah, they were. and i never implied otherwise, or meant to. the jewish zionist colonialists however, weren't.
bk, Jews- don’t belong in Palestine?
to be frank, i don't think zionists belong there. if individual jews comes to palestine the way many did, out of some religious calling or lived there the way many did for centuries along with all the others then i have no problem with this, for i do not believe land is racist.
but i do not think there is a valid claim for a political movement to exist on land divorced and against the indigenous people. it is difficult to rationalize or except the idea of a political stance that requires ethnic cleansing. so i would advocate zionists go somewhere else. but i don't think anyone should have to leave the land if they believe in equal rights freedom and equality for all. i don't care if they are chinese.
as for sharon, he is a war criminal so i do not recognize his rights..i would be more inclined to side with the families of victims of his crimes. why should they have to live for generations with his corpse buried on their land? drop him off in the middle of the sea why don't you, along with binny. nobody concerned themselves with burying him where he was born. i don't care how his parents got to palestine, or why (as i pertains to his burial).
Why are Sharon’s parents land thieves for buying part of a collective in 1916?
by 48 there was something like 6-7% of the land purchased in this way. certainly in 1916 it is much less. is there a reason you want to focus on the people who purchased the 6-7% rather than the other 95% of the land that was stolen?
People are different across the world they don’t think alike and they don’t reason alike......utterly and clearly illogical that goes against the survival of the Assad regime
ok, then explain to me why you think it might be more logical for assad to do it than the 'free syrian army' or AQ?
the articles already point to a very good reason why this massacre aligns with the goals of the 'rebels'..in that they have no use for a ceasefire. they do not want things to stabalize until they are in power. they have already used the excuse of this massacre to claim they do not want a part of the ceasefire.
so what reasons might you think of as logical as that? or are you saying it is utterly and clearly illogical that goes against the survival of the 'free syrian army'?
not really following your logic oleg? how does massacring civilians make retribution for Syrian rebels allegedly carrying out this unconfirmed action.
plus, it doesn't address my question. can’t figure out why syria would agree to UN observers and then carry out a big massacre.
maybe your logic is impaired.
NO these Black Africans (either migrant workers or Black Libyans themselves) were not supposed “mercenaries” for Gaddafi that claim was refuted even by anti-Gaddafi Western organizations like Amnesty International and Human Rights
Abdul-Rahman, have you watched the humanitarian war? Amnesty International's credibility is in the tank as far as i am concerned.
link to laguerrehumanitaire.fr
The public announcement reflects ambiguity, retractability, plausible deniability as to confirmed sources, in an effort to postpone immediate and decisive action.
sammy, the public announcements also reflect deceit. or do you think using a photo from iraq 03 was merely a glitch/oversite?
again:
link to telegraph.co.uk
thanks avi, i should have remembered that. susie abulhawa explained that to me once, we were discussing a character in a play..someone had named a child abdul and she informed me that would be unlikely for the same reason.
abdul, yeah read about bbc deceit w/iraq 03 photo here: link to moonofalabama.org
rws, re your link...
"United Nations observers have confirmed that dozens of men, women, and children were killed and hundreds more wounded in a vicious assault that involved a regime artillery and tank barrage on a residential neighborhood.
notice how it stops short of saying the regime did it? iow, they confirmed (and i read this elsewhere) the artillery was of the same as the regimes. this was before the AP/ UN update saying they didn't know who did it.
b, @MOA:
back you your link:
'after reports' of an artillery bombardment by Assad, is not quite the same as saying 'after the UN reported' an artillery bombardment by Assad.
everything stops a little short of saying the UN said the regime did it.
which included reference to UN attributing responsibility for the massacre to the Syrian gvt..
rws, not sure if we read it the same way:
i first read about it here: link to moonofalabama.org
i have not opened the links to look at the photos. i just cannot. it is too heinous a crime. inconceivable cold blooded murder.
my first comment by the bbc..about them calling the UN while it was going on..if that is true why would the monitors stay away? i am completely not understanding that. but the UN has not confirmed that either so perhaps it is not true. the implications, if the syrian gov carried it out, and the UN was alerted and did not show up..is sever. any outcome has sever implications. i am not even in complete trust of the UN after what happened in libya.
these are desperate alarming measures to carry this out in the midst of UN observers during a ceasefire. huge international attention. horrid implications because it means it will go on and on. intentional killing/slaughter of children is always inexcusable regardless of the circumstance.
Not Homs this time, Hula.
you're right. whoever named the video made a mistake and i repeated it. the voiceover and text says hula and the date indicates it was today.
of course both sides will deny doing it.
iow, you have figured it out? please explain.