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No laughing matter, here...considering this maroon Joe Pitts, with his Masters in Education, & former teacher has served for EIGHT TERMS, no teaparty newcomer.
I'd suggest he be put in stocks in front of the Capitol Bldg -the only suitable public response to such ignorance.
He sits on the Energy and Commerce committee and its Environment & Economy subcomm and Chairs the Energy Health subcommittee (think Keystone XL). THIS explains a lot about US policy and the folks in PA's 16th district who elected him 8 times. His twitter: repjoepitts his office # 202-225 2411; district office (Lancaster: 717-393-0667).
RoHa...
100% true...real learning is for there for all who want it to fill in the years of manipulative lies....
We learn from each other, from blessed erudite associates...
pls forgive my negs. Just tired.
There should be no diminished effort, because Palestine is waiting!....
-- heart felt respects to Hostage...and you RoHa & Annie, citizen, Sumud, Cliff, Sean and many others who steadfastly come teach share.
blessings all.
Hostage......and I believe that as long as informed well intentioned people continue to try to reason with hophmi.....we are all become "hostages". He enjoys jousting with people he perceives as anti Semites. The great unwashed Un-chosen. His arrogance is his Wall, his protective ghetto....all he needs is his handy dandy hasbaRat guidebook and voila, he's ready to put in a few hours as the local zionist golem.
He is a text book example discussed in Wandering Who? category #3: "those who put their Jewish-ness over and above all of their other traits."...it is "the key element and the fundamental characteristic of one's being. Any other quality is secondary."
He cannot be just another ordinary citizen. He lives as a professional Zionist.
Consider his dismissal of Dr. Israel Shahak as a classic symptom.
Shahak should be remembered, respected and honored for the human mensch he was and his contributions to civil society.
There used to be a time when Jews respected menschen.
I still remember some of my elders who were kind gentle decent people.
If you review Shahak's early life during WW2 you would think that with all the edifices, memorials, tributes, museums and paeans to the shoah that such a man as Shahak would be revered for his humanity and his successes no less than his actual survival; that is the conundrum...the mystery--worship the (Golden calf) of holocaust but dismiss the message of survivors. Use the holocaust as a weapon and the word anti Semitic as a guillotine, and denigrate those who refuse to play "chosen".
Dear Hostage ... hophmi is a dead end.
There is nothing you can say that will bring him back to the "living".
I guess folks keep trying to reach him, reason with him, believing he's another human being but he is really a golem, a zionist automaton.
Left to his own devices with no one to hate or fight with, he might just
long for his own lost humanity...one can hope.
I'm checking out of this...i salute all you good people for trying but like a vampire needs blood he needs your passion against injustice.
Just dont play with vampires or golem.
before any eruptions over the anti Israel anti semitic screed I just posted above by hophmi or any other hasbaRat....this is to inform readers that those words are not my own but were published in an opinion column in Haaretz today. As Kathleen wrote....better late than never.
But never in the NYT/WP/LAT/NBC/CNN/ABC/ad nauseum.
---- No hasbara effort can deny what is happening to Israel. It is becoming more and more of an ethnocentric, contrarian religious community with a shortening fuse and no tolerance or patience for any scrap of criticism or independent thought that doesn't line up with the most extreme marker on the right.
Israel is perceived as a brutal state living in well-fanned hysteria and existential anxiety, which sees any political process as a conspiracy, any move on the ground as a justification for war and any criticism as an anti-Semitic campaign.
---- anything that in some way benefits the Palestinians is perceived as a threat... Any act of protest is considered an "airlift" by the Luftwaffe or a terrifying "flotilla" in the style of the Spanish armada, and every foreign observer is perceived as an enemy requiring an "operation" and a "confrontation." How does neurotic sensitivity like this accord with the apparent readiness for eternal war? Perhaps the psychiatrist of "The Big Brother" reality show has answers.
---Israel appears enclosed in a bizarre egocentric bubble: -instead of a sense of strength and some calm, fears are seething and jumpiness and violence are bubbling over.
Israel just seems to be waiting in ambush for any threat or criticism of it so it can pounce on its critics and then wait for the next provocation.
----This dissonant bubble - perhaps produced by the prime minister's personality and his leadership - cannot continue to exist in the long run. One day it will crack and break open: with a bang or a whimper, from within or without.
But - paraphrase Netanyahu's remarks: "If we discount the Arabs, the ultra-Orthodox, the Palestinians, Gush Dan, the demonstrators, the left, the center, Haaretz, The New York Times, Channel 10, Europe, Asia, Africa, U.S. President Barack Obama, the present and the future - our situation has never been better."
(more later).....
hophmi
I've been reading your 1-man response to the (mondo) world over the last few hours, taking in yr comments, one by one, slur by slur, and I finally relented ...perhaps because of your last breach of reality - a bridge too far... -aside from the arrogance of your approach to each and every person who has stepped forward...like a little emporer...Off with their head...its irrelevent! he doesn't count because....I say so! discard !! etc etc
it was stunning to see a my small collection of yr negatives.
here's a short list:
"Forget about quoting Shahak. He’s not remotely credible.."
"I won’t accept a single cite from that book without independent verification. It’s not remotely a credible source."
"The book’s author is a Palestinian diplomat, not a scholar or historian.."
"The fact that you would rely on a book like this for anything is telling. But never mind."
"I’m amazed that you would continue to quote from a book that accuses the Jews of starting World War II."
.."the Federation letter does not say anything like that. It encourages people to contact CBS ....blah blah blah.."
"The clear assumption here that Jews direct and influence the reportage of news at these places. Is this Stormfront.com? Rense?"
BUT the last one....
"i wont dignify yr nonsense about how jews are pushing us toward war in Iran or yr nonsense about ringleaders for a war that was overwhelmingly supported by the American people when it started."
Forget Dr Israel Shahak...dismissing of anyone/everyone--
-- except those You decree as 'worthy'....and who would that include? Wolfowitz? Perle? Feith? Wurmser? Abrams? ......Forget the Yinon plan of 1982 which BEGAT the PNAC/New Pearl Harbor thrust for a war...against the whole list in Yinon's Greater Eretz plan to divide & conquer the entire region to maintain Israeli hegemony...
It was the Neocons in Bush regime who pushed for war against IRAQ....(they tried to convince Clinton to sign off on PNAC letter but he rejected it)...who knows what goes on behind the scenes------
-- but your failure to at least acknowledge that it is the Israeli govt, I.E. yes, Jews... big jewish zionist donors like Sheldon Adelson funding those who 'stand with Israel' despite that it in no way serves US /American best interests....
Jewish Netanyahoo has been pushing for war and using all his influence in Congress, which is considerable, to push the 'threat' to Israel to "allow" Iran to go nuclear.
It aint the Hari Krishna that incessantly talk about "The Threat" and "narrow window" ..and all the other rot that goes along with "The Threat". Bibi is the THREAT ...and that is way most global polls seem to interpret how the world views these ceaseless calls by Zionist Jews for more war, with Uncle Sam doing the heavy lifting....essentially a call for armageddon ...as if....he didn't know how that would play with CUFI and Hagee's crowd. It's taken years but the efforts and sacrifices of persistent activists who see the reality/truth of the "Jewish demockracy"....I think the hasbara machine like the sorcerer's apprentice run amuck....Enough.
Sumud..
You are most welcome!...
I'd bet many have seen that (horrific) Simon/Alpert/CBS report about the 2 teen shepherd lads being kicked & beaten w/ stones...but with years of numerous / increasingly vile examples of (IDF/border police) abject brutality many viewers have buried images in the memory hole.
Chris' statement about lack of familiarity with Bob Simon- nudged recall of that 20 + year old CBS clip.....
Thank you for the acknowledgement, 'steadfastly' !!
Chris O....you mentioned not being familiar with Bob Simon, oddly enough you added .."like Mafia tactics....they come after you....they'll break your legs..."
so I HAD to share this short item which I viewed in late 2000 that discussed (peace-maker?) Yitzhak Rabin's policy of "break their bones" actually take place. The thing that kept me glued was the familiar face/voice of CBS reporter Bob Simon on the scene. I was surprised when I googled to locate a reference to it this morning and found this: link to haaretz.com
Most older/experienced international news journalists know the reality, but are prevented from showing it, and absolutley Bob Simon is one who truly knows.
Also I had to "cheekily" add that I'd not "tarnish" the Mafia, who at least had a specific street 'code of honor' which rarely intentionally harmed children or teenagers or other innocent bystanders unlike
the thuggish hoodlums who carried out sadistic abuse by IDF or border police brutality, literally, on thousands of innocents annually.
From haaretz piece here's the money quote:
"In February 1988 CBS cameraman Moshe Alpert filmed four soldiers carrying out Yitzhak Rabin's "break their bones" order against two Palestinian teens. Their bones didn't shatter, but Israel's self-image and its international image did. Now, years later, one of the victims speaks out."
CBS Jerusalem correspondent Bob Simon did the voice over and transmitted Alpert's footage to the United States.
URL: link to haaretz.com
I was remembering back- perhaps 15 yrs ago or so, to a used bookstore with a relative, asking her if she'd read the book I was pointing to by Chomsky. To which without hesitation she immediately explained he was anti-Semitic. She is one of those I now think of as a gate-keeper. I remember pulling my hand back from that book in slow-motion, wondering how she knew, as she wasn't a particularly committed Jew or Zionist and not a dedicated history/non-fiction reader as I was, yet I deferred to her age and determined "knowing" rejection. I remember that as the moment I decided that never again would I ask but that I would begin my reading program of writers so identified to learn for myself. The memory is shameful to me now as I was the reader and a librarian connected to libraries for decades.
But that was long before the 2000 intifada, and long before I'd begun to fill in the blanks...the 'missing history' which became easier to learn about and eventually more available thanks to the internet, where I was sent a book lists of titles unknown to me, obscured by time or 'disappeared'.
That memory returns each time I read these on-going debates.
There was a deeply buried sense that if one raises certain questions related to issues of Jewish identity and Jewishness one is labeled pariah, self hater and betrayer to the Tribe as I am in my own family of origin.
However, something deeper is beginning, which has its roots in the rich intellectual soil where Gilad courageously plants his questions, challenges, doubts, internal struggles for public consumption.
He stirs the pot much to our good fortune, to have his provocative voice in our midst in these very dark times.
The biggest problem however, remains intractable...as long as people are willing to take the A-Train...( "A" train that toots "Atzmon" the "A"nti-Semite) ...without having READ 'Wandering Who' for themselves.
It's Ironic, actually that many jump on that 'hate Atzmon train' without someone else's PRE-DIGESTED interpretation of what Atzmon "really" is saying.
So many 'progressives' available to explain what Gilad's real intent and meaning.
That is not okay.
Digging deep putting his own internal dialog in print takes courage, ability and an abiding sense of wanting to create a more just & honest world.
To not be the carrier of mythology, hasbara, propaganda, indoctrination or well intentioned (or not) brain-washing.
Whether we were born in Israel or elsewhere, many were so indoctrinated but now want to purge ourselves of the lies and myths and get to the "other side" in order move forward, CHOOSING a braver new world minus the old familiar victim mentality.
My indoctrination took place in North America but never did I hear the words, Palestinian, occupation, or transfer until 2000.
That was when I chose my own "new beginning" tentatively at first, trying to gather reading material to study after being given a specific list of 9 titles thanks to an online discussion group I found that year of informed people, who were mentors to 'new-comers' at the start of the latest American anti Zionist movement.
It took me almost 2 years to find those powerful "disappeared" titles and the beginning of my sense of outrage/rage at having believed so many half truths and outright lies as propagated for decades with little to no counter argument or even discussion. To question was to be disloyal.
As time went on there was no diminishment of my sense of being betrayed.
Now looking back it seems as if I am remembering another person who had internalized so many fallacies, so many spinning versions of what used to be a simple identity....Judaism as a humanistic religion based on the pursuit of Justice and concern for the Other...who could hate such special people who have been persecuted ?
I'd hoped that the progressive progressives would be the first to want to read the shared inner dialogs that Atzmon has placed in front of us; Read them FIRST-hand not second or third hand from the ever present 'other' who knows more -- who protect us from Atzmon's self hating professions -- and thus spare us from truly looking into the Mirror.
With the sole hyper-power in lock step with the neocon plan which was spawned from Oded Yinon's 1982 WZO Kivunim Jnl's - expansion plan for greater Eretz Yisroel to fulfill this divide/destroy all of Israel's enemy/neighboring states....this 'debate' that arises whenever Gilad tours North America to play his soaring magnificent saxophone/clarinet Jazz ...is wasteful, shameful and pure folly.
The old doomsday clock on the wall tells us that we are only minutes from a nightmare scenario that has at its heart, a vast nation that has mistakenly embraced felonious lies as "gospel" and reject again another prophet. I think of him as an exJew, expat Israeli British Pied Piper prophet.
Get a copy of Wandering Who and read it for yourself. Now.
There isn't a minute more to waste.
As Eldridge said: if You ain't part of the Solution you are part of the Problem and Palestinians are waiting.
There are no defenseless shtetls and Cossacks in Florida, New York, New Jersey, etc.....where many of these Jews, committing these ruthless acts, are from. Just sayin'.
There are few ways that can reach into peoples' minds and hearts as deeply & profoundly as through cinema....the above youtubes describe Hebron as it is now, after decades of militarization & zealot occupiers in its heart...as a ghost-town where its (majority) population of Palestinians, cannot walk, shop or play with any sense of safety or security; even on the UN road (Shuhada Street) which US taxpayers funded, which - sad to say- is the least of the trouble for those who live in that negatively charged environment.
Ali Abunimah posted mention about a movie, which wrapped up filming in Hebron in June ; This film tells the story of 3 boys, Christian Jewish and Muslim, 3 friends who grew up in Hebron prior to the 1st Intifada. It is a story that must be told so I hope that you will visit the trailer and that you will share it and do whatever you can to get this film completed-- here's the link:
link to electronicintifada.net
No it is not "easy"...but there has to be a desire....a human curiosity despite the programming and brainwashing we all have experienced in this country. When there is discussion of suffering and oppression how can one turn away without at LEAST TRYING to learn more. There is really no good excuse for those who choose to remain ignorant.
Shunning? not good, but frankly it seems to be more from the perspective of those who hold the state of israel higher than they do their friendships or the idea of compassionate humanity. having received the most hateful propaganda from AISH Ha'Torah thru my only older sister during the blitzkrieg of Gaza...a simple example...no one in my entire family finds it odd to shun me for merely asking questions a dozen years ago or more.Since being relieved of the burden of trying to reason with such "idolizers" I long ago turned my focus to learning all that I missed over the decades of my own ignorance and thanks to the Internet meeting up with wonderful folks who helped me learn and in turn, to share and do all I could to distribute information....debate when I could....support all writers and speakers with courage and work to overcome the WALL of protectionism for all things zionist/israel/etc. It is no kindness to ignore the elephant in the living room....imo. Israel is nothing more than the golden calf anew.
First I want to publicly THANK Joe Meadors for his latest participation as a member of this year's Flotilla to Gaza; for Stepping forward once again-- in the same area that your ship, USS Liberty, was so brutally & intentionally targeted in a sustained, hours long, daytime attack by an "ally", Israel.
I would venture to say that Joe, just as the other surviving "band of brothers' from that brutal attack will live the rest of their lives with the memories of it etched in their brains. Those memories/details will ALWAYS outweigh the intensely politicized handwringing faux "investigations" which served only to hide / cover up the Truth as all know, including the HasbaRATS who continually serve their 'Ministry of Truth where as Orwell wrote: 'ignorance is strength'.
The details of that attack will also be remembered by the participating pilots, machine-gunners, napalm droppers, & torpedo-ists of the israeli war machine, especially including the lone pilot who refused to follow his illegal order to attack a clearly identified ally (US) who instead returned to base where he was arrested.
As a previous poster noted Rick Perry will never miss a beat praising the Israeli military, despite these survivors. He is just one more failed pol in a failed state in a failing national govt --especially when it comes to dealing with the Truth about the zionist state.
My heartfelt SALUTE to you Joe Meadors & the crew of the USS Liberty for your many sacrifices.
/just another US Vet.
actually I am opposed to mandatory circumcision....I think it's barbaric to do such a thing to an infant...welcome to the world CLIP. It's wrong imo.
so, what happened to the mohel jokes?? .....wait no longer....here's a quicky:
Q: Hear about the enterprising rabbi that's offering circumcision via the Internet?
A: The service is called E-MOIL.
Polly...interesting response you wrote....and your belief that COMPROMISE would make your support for Israel ABSOLUTE if they'd only compromise....but then you gunked it up with: "this wouldn't appease the Palestinians, of course, but it would be the first REAL attempt to show that Israel does not have a hidden agenda to grab the lot.".....you wrote.
Just HOW do you know what "the Palestinians" want? How did you come to that belief? ......as well as knowing so sincerely what or what not Israel might have as a "hidden agenda"...to grab it all. Your statement that compromise would not appease The Palestinians just LEAPED off the page.....seems presumptuous at the the very least..
I think that most who follow news about the M/E in US msm even knowledgeable folks are often caught short when trying understand "why is Hamas so violent?"...because there rarely if ever is any full blown news report that provides CONTEXT...so here's a link to someone who has beautifully and comprehensively done just that...on their blog showing the lead up to the latest Israeli military assault on Gaza...it did not begin yesterday...please check out what lead up to it here:
link to
with great appreciation to Alison Weir et al.
As Operation Scorching Summer by IDF in Gaza continues with mention on any news wires...we continue to discuss/debate what Judge Goldstone "really" meant when he appeared to backtrack in his oped in WP last Sunday. Next time, and there will be a next...they'll just hire someone more "flexible" than Goldstone was....since he really did not rescind his report...he only seemed to regret...but not retract. That's why the law suit, I guess.
(speaking of Goldstone)... from JTA :
link to jta.org
Rice: Goldstone report should simply ‘disappear’
April 7, 2011
WASHINGTON (JTA) -- Susan Rice, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, says the Goldstone report is probably beyond fixing and should simply disappear.
Rice, speaking to a hearing Thursday of the U.S. House of Representatives Foreign Affairs Committee, was reacting to congressional calls on Richard Goldstone to amend the 2009 report on the Gaza War that was based on an investigation of a panel convened by the U.N. Human Rights Council.
The panel, chaired by Goldstone, concluded that Israel had targeted civilians as a matter of policy. Goldstone, a former South African judge, recently withdrew that conclusion.
"I'm not sure it can be amended," Rice said of the report. "What we want to see is for it to disappear and no longer be a subject of discussion and debate in the Human Rights Council or the General Assembly or beyond."
Rice has led the effort to stymie the advance of the report through the U.N. system.
He's at Stanford.....the bloke's brain has been "Hoover-ized"....(vacuumed clean of any conscience) ......Ullman...Rice..Pipes Zelnick..Rumsfeld......who else?
thanks MRW...
trying to make sense out the news today REQUIRES having sense of sanity? humor?
For instance... just got a clip from YNET news in which Rabbi Dov Lior, a "senior authority on Jewish law in the Religious Zionism movement, asserted that a Jewish woman should never get pregnant using sperm donated by a non-Jewish man – even if it is the last option available. ....because it inevitably leads to negative traits & BARBARISM.
What's so bad about being a barber?
BTW, correction on that Disneyland theme park....its opening in 2013 not 2014.
I did some digging on the 'net yesterday because of rumors were popping up about Jarad Loughner's possible Jewishkeit & the fact that Congresswoman Giffords attended the same synagogue as Jarad Loughner's mother (Amy Joanne Totman-Loughner) in Tucson.
Were we not living in 'stranger-than-fiction-times' where reality stands on its head in MSM media, (especially as concerns Palestine, Zionism, IDF etc) a psychopathic assassin's 'religious affiliation' should not matter in the least, BUT w/ US in its latest phase of 'hate the other' scapegoat (Islamophobia) ---
for that reason & general curiosity I stumbled on an old (1999) Jewish Journal report about Dylan Klebold another mentally imbalanced young male shooter of the infamous Columbine killings. Dylan's grandfather was a significant Ohio Jewish philanthropist (Milton Yassanoff). The article had brief mention of Dylan performing the "feer kashas/4 questions" Passover which was followed with a Lutheran burial after his suicide.
As for Palin--no doubt she'll experience a public excoriation over her use of the (verboten) term "blood libel" as Jim Holstun mentioned above.
If one listens to Foxman & his associates certain terms "must not be spoken" less we confirm their claims of "anti Semites" &/or "self hating" status --such as:
i.e..organ theft/ sales...holocaust...genocide...victimhood.....'disputed not occupied'...god gave it to Jews......blood libel....existential threat... demographic threat....right to exist.... jewish democracy. Perhaps Foxman will arrange with his lawyers to put a "C" (copyright) next to the terms that we must not speak aloud?
It all seems to fit the latest "zionists gone wild" item---a new Disneyland is planned to open in Haifa 2014 ...no doubt Blackwater will be managing their 'security'. oy vey.
NO I am NOT making that up. (today's Tablet Magazine).
A powerful teaching tool...this street theater...bringing awareness of the ongoing seige in an immediate way to passers by. Bravo to the folks in Boston BDS for sharing this effort...may it be picked up far and wide.! the location, Copley Square has much foot traffic of all types, tourists, business people and students... Well done!
Let us see if SEATTLE organizers get to practice "free speech" ....on their city buses addressing Israeli violence?....since Tel Aviv decides what Washington can say, will they also determine what Seattle or any of the other grassroots efforts across America gets to say?. Go Vote at Seattle news Poll ...
link to king5.com
Since Witty raised the specter of Benny Morris in a discussion about Ilan Pappe's US book tour: It's impossible not to reflect on Witty's preference in interpreting their conclusions. Both historians dug into Israeli archives but arrived at distinctly different conclusions; Pappe acknowledged ethnic cleansing had taken place while Morris complained that cleansing of Palestinians had not gone far enough. Not FAR ENOUGH. ?
But Witty's quibbling about the term "colonialist"?
-Colonialist = "the policy or practice of acquiring full or partial political control over another country, occupying it with settlers, and exploiting it economically."
Rejecting Zionist "colonialism" in the face of 'expropriation' of tens of
thousands of stolen dunam and tens of thousands of dead, mutilated and imprisoned indigenous after 6 decades ?
You're rearranging deck chairs on a sinking ship, Richard.
ditto ditto ditto Chu, Amar, Colin, et al......all one needs do is notice the free pollard closing ...before a wave of anger blended into a feeling of nausea...that
only a fool or a traitor would write such b.s. I'll attribute that statement to sheer ignorance as the rest of that post suggests. pollard traitor to his homeland of the US, who sold thousands of Top Secret docs THOUSANDS to Israel and elsewhere revealed exactly what he was worth...not conscience, not concern about warfare or human suffering but about narcissism, long held fantasies about himself as a mossad and he found his price. Too bad his fixer an israeli military officer, was never extradited to face charges. Shut off the US tax payer spigot to that law breaking brutal apartheid govt. end the $10Million/daily dole.
Interesting to learn that fundie psychos find no limits to giving vent to examples of their hateful creativity.....as folks like me are no longer merely pro-Palestinian, anti-zionist, self hating terrorist sympathizers....but a new pejorative epithet has been offered me....that I'm merely an "Alibi" joo.
there was one more thing I neglected to say in a previous post ...when the discussion was characterizing Hamas as terrorist....the latest parallel to that has gotten lost in the shuffle but I do want to mention...the ugly way that IHH has been characterized generally. They are the single largest humanitarian relief orgn/first responders to disasters which is religiously based in Turkey...they are used to bringing humanitarian volunteers, doctors and other relief/aid workers to disaster sites as they did to Haiti etc....but because they are Muslim charitable the immediate response is to make them bad guys. I am hoping that someone can offer more info than I now have on their relief efforts...which are most often done without FANFARE and TRUMPETs like well, for instance the Israeli 'teams' that arrived to Haiti with scripts in hand and major PR campaign blazing. Now they are using the word 'terrorist' for IHH as easily as batting an eye. Its a damn shame no one insists they show PROOF or shut up..! Because they 'met' with the host authority on gaza previously doesn't make them 'terrorists' any more than zionists who repeat the "Chamassss is terrorist" makes it so. No since they are fighting for their lives there against the ? 4th mightiest military in the world...idf. Just sayin.
Richard Parker...since you've got a list started...I wanted to add another assassination or two- Lord Moyne..and his aides in Cairo...by 2 young Sternists working for Shamir, who were caught, tried and hanged..but perhaps - if not more revealing was the fact that their bodies were eventually exchanged by Egyptian officials & the Zionist govt buried those two murderers in a cemetery reserved for statesmen, leaders and heroes on Mt Herzl a number of years later.
thanks Annie...I noted that short cut when I went searching for the Gaza Bombshell again....but then I had "issues"..thinking that the documentation doesn't firmly serve as 'evidence' but rather notes could be from/by any person....and the other larger reason was because even tho' it is a LONG article...its so packed with background and character development/events that I just chose to not point readers to the abbreviated. So I am grateful to you for pointing it out...so that folks have a choice. Better abbreviated than not at all. It's a librarian-ish quirk of mine.
lysias....thanks for bringing up McGeough.....wondering how many watched/listened to Cultures of Resistance video of events on the Marmara? I thought a STUNNING bit of info came FROM Paul McGeough and Kate Gerahty his journo partner on ship...when they stated that prior to their $60-80,000/worth of camera equipment was taken, the boarding Commandos stated to both Paul and Kate that "we know exactly who you are.." and spoken with clear crisp Aussie Accents according to Paul. Wondering if their faces /bios were also in Commandos 3 ring binder booklet of key Flotilla passengers...a guide to who to kill???. that film was to be presented to UN body at press conference last week but have heard nothing about 'outcome' as yet... anyone ?
One of the best articles to ever be published in US msm appeared in VANITY FAIR April 2008 issue, entitled: The Gaza Bombshell by D. Rose...a long rich article that explains CLEARLY how current status was arrived at...link to vanityfair.com
And though it is a good background to current situation, it by NO means gives Americans adequate background on how completely wretched things have been in Palestine for many decades. As someone above said ....know the Israelis by their actions....and as a former mossad agent wrote famously you shall know them by DECEPTION....saying one thing to the world/US and quite another there. They are in descent....a paranoid, savage state in descent.
Whatever Khaled Maaschal says will be doubted, denied or rejected.. Its not as if he has the power to do anything except try to reach the American people "UNFILTERED" which remains a near impossibility. He was nearly murdered on the street by Mossad as has nearly every Palestinian leader, thinker, writer, intellect for decades. That he lives and reaches as many as he currently does is a tribute to his brilliance....and to the enormous injustices endured by Palestinians since pre-48.
Everyone who desires freedom cannot be incarcerated or murdered....even tho' Israel has attempted to do just that. The TRUTH is coming out...even in dribs and drabs...to finally expose who wants to (and actually has) pushed whom into the sea. (See Yaffa, 1948 for example.)
leaves me with a sense of hope for future...of course, not soon enough, but such a valued piece of writing...thanks Phil for sharing...while my thoughts had drifted to the 9 dead injured this morning....and the next ship due to port in a few hours...CHANGE cannot come soon enough for those who have been suffering whilst the hasbaRAT machine worked overtime to demonize, dehumanize --surely a sign of their growing desperation--and why Norm Finkelstein has repeatedly stated the 'lunatic' state is about run its course. All I can add is AMEN. about time. There are critical issues ahead...rebuilding the homes and lives of the devastated in Gaza, seeing the blockade lifted, ending the bloody goddam eternal occupation and good riddence to Apartheid...Putting a note on my calendar that by end of this Ramadan all the above should be completed. Lives depend upon it. thanks again, Phil...breath taking was the analogy!
Thanks Phil for posting Kattan's excerpt a timely review of the forgotten, lost, denied, rejected details. thanks also for adding yet another valued title on the period--what would I do without my daily essential dose of Mondo? cheers!
Ahoy Citizen!...yes...I just received an email from MV Rachel Corrie that they are at high sea on their way and due to meet up with the other ships soon. There is a stirring, moving youtube that Greta sent along with the message I received only minutes ago --here's the youtube...in Ireland...
link to youtube.com
and while the NYRBks was siding with the lobby for a change....ahem....the Sunday NYTimes book section published another swat at Tariq Ramadan using the same old empty rhetorical smackdown that has been passed around and getting a lot of communal use.....the same diatribes, claims and rants that Professor Ramadan is talking in tongues and abjures saying what he really means.....and of course that Professor Ramadan failed to properly select his grandfather, his grandfather's associates & dad. What else is left? of course....dont forget 'he's antiSemitic'!...digging back in his 2003 writings complaining that he "angrily attacked....Jewish intellectuals....for supporting Israel and Zionism". this is anti Semitic? I've been doing that since 2003 myself and I'm a Jew. So what? Oh the real pivotal giveaway was that some of the people he 'charged' weren't actually Jewish. And he did it "Openly"!!! has the scholar no shame?? Well, that did it...I immediately went to purchase Ramadan's "What I believe" before they burn his books..