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  • Jordanian-Palestinian resolution to the UN Security Council gives US and Israel wiggle room
    • Before pointing to the Americans, one should point to the Arabs and to the Palestinian leaders themselves; Palestinian people appear to be comatose to be taking all this crap happening to them time after time. If Palestinians want their freedom, they are going to have to fight for it.

    • Until such time when Abbas & Company will ride into the sunset, Israel will continue getting exactly what it wants. Abunimah is right that this resolution being proposed will set the Palestinians much further back. According to the Palestinian Papers, Palestinians living inside Israel proper have already been sold down the river by the Company; with this resolution, those stateless ones yearning for a return are also being sold.

  • U.S. seeks to counter Palestinian UN resolution with alternative offer, says French diplomat
    • The US carries a big stick at the UN. The weak link in this story is Jordan that remains a state by the grace of US and Saudia aid, its exports of potash don't cover the rent; it's grandstanding at the UNSC on behalf of Palestine is of little consequence and intended for domestic consumption. Venezuela would be replacing it in the same capacity and efficiency. Until there are elections in Palestine, nothing is going to change and the US, Israel and Abbas know it and none of them is going to allow it. There are 36 members out of a total 84 members of Palestine's Parliament in Israeli jails now with 2/3 of them in administrative detention without any charges against them. It doesn't appear to be distrssing Abbas in any way.

    • The US will not allow any unilateral resolution or action against Israel. In plain English, it wants the Palestinians to go on negotiating with the Israelis until they have no more land left to negotiate about; other than running interference for Israel, the US has nothing to offer.

      BTW, thanks for the "edit" function.

  • Palestinian UN effort seeks to set 'terms of reference' for negotiations and promote shift away from US leadership
    • "Washington has been adamant that no unilateral steps can be made by either party and have rejected pre-conditions on peace talks other than basing a final agreement on UN resolution 242 alone, which calls for Israeli troops to withdrawal from territories occupied in June 1967. "

      Washington made an exception to its adamancy rule in 2005 when Israel unilaterally withdrew from Gaza despite clear warnings against doing it by the Europeans and the Palestinians themselves. Exactly what had been predicted would happen by the unilateral withdrawal actually happened as it was the begining of the siege and for having done that, the US branded Sharon with the tag of "Man of Peace". The US is now saying the Palestinians cannot go to the UN with a unilateral proposal to have Israel withdraw in 2 years. Sharon's decision in consultation with the US without any involvement of the UN was taken less than a year before its actual implementation. Now the Palestinians is going to the UN and offering to wait 2 years. What's Israel's problem with that?

  • US feels the heat on Palestine vote at UN
    • " The Israeli public, due to elect a new Israeli government in three months’ time...,"

      What better reason to keep the issue on the back burner until then? And then another 3 months for the new government to get its bearings, and so on, and so on.

    • "What does that mean, anyway?"

      Just, it means that the US is threatening to veto unless the language is watered down to the point of making the resolution inconsequential.

  • 'NYT' writer takes Salaita's side, saying U of Illinois violated 'intellectual and academic freedom'
  • PA to seek UN Security Council resolution giving Israel two years to end the occupation
    • On the subject of any UNSC resolution concerning Israel, we hve to acount for Israel's overall disregard of any such resolution; In 1978, the UNSC that included the consent of the US, passed Res 425 ordering Israel out of Lebanon. Israel's reaction to this was to give it the finger and the 7th Cavalry was never sent in to enforce the resolution during Israel's occupation that in spite of Res 425, went on to to maintain its vile occupation of South Lebanon for 22 years until Hizbullah succeeded in kicking its ass out of Lebanon in May 2000. All this to say that it's a foregone conclusion that Israel will not be bound by any UN resolution, Security Council's or General Assembly's and this futile UN-resolution talk is essentially worth chickenshit.

      Notwithstanding any resolution that would be passed, there is already talk of "watering down" the language that is being pushed by the US to make any deal palpable by Israel. It's the same bullshit talk that was used by the US and Israel back at the creation of Israel during which Israel succeeded in getting inserted weasel words that on the surface appeared relatively harmless but the ended up serving Israel's vile interests in refusing to abide by UN resolutions to both get out of lands it had overran and to let the Palestinians return to their land. This sneaky ambiguity deliberately created by Israel has effectively kept the Palestinians refugees. Today, we're back talking about the insertion of new weasel words that would allow Israel to maintain its occupation for ever and ever until the last Palestinian has been removed from the land.

      It's worth mentioning the words of Edward Said that said in so many other words that during the final Oslo negotiations and signing, the illustrious Palestinian team of Arafat, Abbas, Shaath, Abed Rabbo and a few others with exception to the late Arafat, all of which are still currently negotiating with Israel, did not have a single lawyer present with them while Israel's team had superbly efficient negotiating lawyers with it at all times looking out for its interests. And we saw the results of what this Palestinian team obtained with Oslo and today the same team is involved in supposedly final negotiations.

      In short, the way it's going, the Palestinians with the currently ledership and the indifference of the Arabs are doomed. No matter what chickenshit of a UN resolution does come out of this charade, all Israel to perpetuate the occupaton and go from one extension to the 2 year deal to another would only need a little bomb going off in downtown TA or a repeat incident of the death of the 3 teens, to be choreographed by Israel, of course, as usual.

  • Caroline Glick melts down with European diplomats
    • I wasn't knocking him, just, I agree his voice is very nice. I was critical of the choice of songs Platinum is picking for him.

    • Annie, the guy is certainly no "old blue -eyes" and will never be; with that song, he's become just another one of Lebanon's 5 dozen ho-hum singers competing in a non-existing market. His talent and super major appeal was in his rah rah rah patriotic Palestinian songs that got everyone, Palestinian and other Arabs all stirred up. This song is to put them back to sleep. Platinum Records is steering him in the wrong direction.

  • As Kerry and UN press on occupation, Netanyahu sees a 'diplomatic assault'
    • From Yahoo News:

      "... A number of Australian Muslim groups condemned the hostage-taking in a joint statement and said the flag's inscription was a "testimony of faith that has been misappropriated by misguided individuals."

      In a show of solidarity, many Australians offered on Twitter to accompany people dressed in Muslim clothes who were afraid of a backlash from the cafe siege. The hashtag #IllRideWithYou was used more than 90,000 times by late Monday evening."

      link to news.yahoo.com

    • "... I wonder if...."

      Eljay, their desire to please the US by their dealing with Israel is stronger than their fear of terrorism at home. Same goes for Palau and Micronesia

    • MHughes, the hostage-taker is not an Islamist in the terrorist sense of the word. He's an Iranian-born lone gunman with deep religious convictions with a police record currently out on bail. After police took control of the situation, the gunman admitted to have placed 3 bombs in various locations of Sydney and police is now looking for them.

  • Israeli extremists charged in arson of Jewish-Arab school wanted to 'raise intermarriage issue to top of agenda'
    • Seafoid, muffins are good but contain as many calories as a hamburger. My favourite is the toasted English muffin, which is tastier and at half the calories.

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    • Mooser, you're less than an hour away from real beer across the border. Amigo probably hasn't tasted a Molson.

    • Yes, just, the 3 assholes appear to be enjoyng themselves. The policemen too. A good picture of of the hell to where the Jewish state is heading.

  • Why Israel's Jewish nationality bill is a big deal
    • ISIS too pretends it's inspired by Moslem Sharia law when it goes around beheading innocent people. I'm not vaunting it or pushing it, Orriyia, but recalling how the Zionists love to knock the Arab and Muslim states that do have it and they seem to be heading down the ISIS road in more ways than you think. Israel uses more sophisticated weapons to do it. Too much of any religion is not a very good thing.

    • "Hebrew law: Jewish law shall serve as a source of inspiration for the Knesset."

      Would that make it a Jewish shariah law?

  • Liberal Zionists seek to strip Naftali Bennett of freedom to travel in hope of saving two-state solution
    • Thanks for the albawaba link, just, it got me to the actual article. Before it disappears again, a few excerpts from it:

      "A singer who became the first Palestinian to win Arab Idol after witnessing 'hell on earth' at a Gaza refugee camp where he grew up has made an impassioned plea for Israel to stop killing innocent civilians.

      Mohammed Assaf told MailOnline how he witnessed countless deaths at the hands of Israeli forces after moving to the Khan Younis refugee Camp in Gaza when he was just four.

      Khan Younis has been the scene of some of the most brutal Israeli massacres. Most of those who end up there have had their homes reduced to rubble and Mr Assaf saw harrowing parallels over the summer when nearly 2,200 Gazans were killed, including 513 children.

      Last year, Mr Assaf risked everything by travelling to Egypt to audition for the Middle East's version of Pop Idol which he went on to win. He has since gone on to perform dozens of sell-out concerts all over the world from America to Australia.

      In an exclusive interview with MailOnline in London, Mr Assaf told how he often relives the horrors of his childhood after making several trips to Gaza this year to deliver aid in his role as UN Goodwill Ambassador for Palestine.

      He said: 'The overwhelming majority of the Palestinians killed were innocent civilians. It's harrowing to see this level of suffering among my people.

      'Thousands more were wounded and nearly half a million people were made homeless - and I know exactly how that feels.

      'When bombs and bullets are pouring down on defenceless communities, and there is absolutely nowhere to run, then it is like absolute hell on earth.

      'It is an unimaginably frightening situation and I went through it regularly during Israeli attacks while I was growing up. I saw the lives of families and friends destroyed in seconds.'

      Concentrating on Israel's campaign in Gaza this summer, a new report by human rights group Amnesty International pointed to Israeli ‘war crimes’ carried out with ‘a callous indifference to the carnage caused’.

      Israel, which lost five of its own civilians and 66 soldiers in the conflict, claimed it was responding to 'terrorist rocket fire', according to government spokesmen.

      The 24-year-old is known as the 'Voice of Gaza' after winning the show to become a global superstar last year.

      ... Mr Assaf said he particularly wanted to visit London after the British parliament last month voted to recognise Palestine as an independent state.

      'It was a hugely important step and one which added to the great hope all Palestinians share,' he said before a concert in Westminster Central Hall, across the road from the House of Commons last Friday night.

      'I have to admit, I feel immensely proud to be here. The symbolic vote was won by a landslide majority, showing that the will is here in Britain to allow us peace.

      'Now there needs to be official recognition of the Palestinian state. This is particularly relevant for the UK, given its historical responsibility for starting the Arab-Israeli conflict in the first place.

      ... 'All Palestinians want is freedom', said Assaf. 'This is our fundamental right. It's about time we were allowed to join the rest of humanity.

      'Israel has illegally grabbed almost eighty per cent of our land, and we are the only people in the 21st century to be colonised and to be forced to live under military occupation.'

      ... 'After everything I had been through – the wars, the oppression and apartheid, the suffering, the humiliation of day-to-day military occupation – I could not believe that I had won Arab Idol, and am still overwhelmed by what has happened since.'

      Assaf still regularly returns to Gaza. His last visits there were during and since the recent carnage, delivering aid as UN Goodwill Ambassador for Palestine.

      He went to numerous hospitals, saying: 'It's harrowing to see this level of suffering among my people'.

      A particularly poignant visit was to the Shujaiya district of Gaza where, on July 20, 100 people were killed by a combined Israeli bombardment by F-16 jets, tanks and mortars.

      'But we are a very resilient people and we stick together,' Assaf said.

      Assaf was also in London for a private charity event organised by UNRWA, the relief agency, to raise money for the reconstruction of Gaza.

      A newly digitised archive photograph of a Palestinian family fleeing the city of Khan Younis in 1948 sold for £3,000.

      'I have hugely positive plans for my home,' Assaf said. 'They include setting up an Arts Centre for young musicians, writers and actors, which would be paid for by Palestinian Americans'.

      However, Assaf warned that it would take years for blockaded Gaza to get over the latest aerial, naval and ground bombardment by the Israelis.

      They deployed one hundred times more destructive power in 2014 than they did in offensives in 2006, 2008 and 2012 combined.

      Some 1,000 tons of unexploded munitions remain on the ground in Gaza.

      'The use of immense firepower was terrifying and it left an entire community in chaos,' said Assaf.

      'Nobody can get over all that death and suffering, and many want to leave the Gaza Strip because there is no hope.

      'The Israeli government currently just offers more aggression and misery – it reacts to any opposition by destroying everything it can. This achieves nothing except for further violence.'

      Daily Mail
      © Associated Newspapers Ltd.

      Full article:

      link to albawaba.com

    • The Palestinian-Israeli, Haitham Khalaily will probably not return home, Israeli authorities have said that on their return from the enemy country (Lebanon), he and the other Palestinian-Israeli contestant, Manal Moussa will be arrested. They made it to Lebanon by way of passes given to them by the PA to travel from Jordan to Lebanon. Now that they are famous, they will get work all over the Middle East, the US and Australia.

    • ... and the Arab Idol for 2014 is the Syrian contestant, Hazem Cherif.

    • The Palestinian singer is definitely the better singer of the remaining 3 and definitely the favourite of the judges, but the results supposedly will be determined by people phoning in. It's looking like they will be giving it to the Syrian singer. I'm rooting for the Palestinian.

  • Israeli government attempts to shut down Nakba film festival in Tel Aviv
    • how factual or useful do you think their “memory” of the Holocaust is?

      Of no consequence how factual, after over 300 movies and documentaries covering the subject and dozens of museums opened to commemorate it, it realy doesn't matter. Despite all of these, the single word "nakba" remains a dirty one and dangerous too.

      When you mentioned Norman, the first thing that popped into my head was Bates Motel.

    • In an update to the Maan News article, it now seems that the hitchhiker is not the guilty one but another Palestinian man standing next to him as the car with the Israeli family stopped to pick them up. That's when the new guy in the story threw something at the family members and on the hitchhiker before he was shot. The assailant supposedly has a record of mental illness:

      "... A Palestinian man standing next to the hitchhiker threw acid at both him and the family when the car stopped, it said.

      Initially the army said the attacker was a hitchhiker but later revised its statement.

      Israeli news site Ynet said three young children aged 8-10 suffered light burn wounds and a 40-year-old man suffered burns to his face and eyes.

      Another Israeli civilian shot the suspect in the leg as he fled, the Israeli spokeswoman added.

      The suspect was identified as Jamal Abd al-Majid Ghayatha, 45, from the village of Nahalin.

      Palestinian residents said he was mentally unstable and had received treatment at a mental health clinic in Bethlehem. He had been arrested before, they added."

      link to maannews.net

    • Bad news coming out of the West Bank this afternoon. It was reported that a Palestinian hitch-hiker that had been given a ride by an Israeli family threw something at them possibly acid injuring lightly the parents and the 4 kids. The Palestinian was shot in the leg while trying to run away at a checkpoint. If true, that would be a very ugly incident by a Palestinian.

    • Speaking of remembering, trouble coming up in amigo-land; from Rehmat's Blog"

      "Ireland: Israel ban at Holocaust memorial
      Posted on December 12, 2014

      The organized Jewry in both Ireland and Britain is furious over the organizers’ ban on mentioning state of Israel by name during the upcoming annual Holocaust memorial ceremony in Dublin next month.

      The trustees of Holocaust Education Trust Ireland (HETI), host of the country’s main event has ordered the management not to refer to the Zionist entity by “Jewish or State of Israel”.

      Yanky Fachler, the organizer of the event objected to ban – and as result was fired by HETI management for the next 12 years.

      The Irish president, prime minister and other senior officials have attended and addressed the ceremony over the years, and this year Irish President Michael Higgins will be in attendance, as will the Israeli ambassador to Ireland. The event is held on the Sunday closest to United Nations International Holocaust Memorial Day.

      I must admit that HETI ruling crosses the “red line”, as what’s the use celebrating Holocaust memorial day without being used to propagate Israeli lies and self pity.

      Chief Rabbi of the Orthodox Jewish Community in Austria, Moishe Arye Friedman says that the “Zionist regime is using the Holocaust concept as a tool and weapon to silence people.”

      In September 2014, Art Spiegelman , the famous American Jewish comic book artist and promoter of Holocaust, agreed with Friedman and said: “Israel is like some badly battered child with PTSD who has grown up to batter others.”

      Ireland is home to 1,000 Jews. Israel’s sixth president Chaim Herzog, was son of Belfast’s chief rabbi Isaac Herzog, who acted as Ashkenazi chief rabbi of the Zionist entity until his death in 1959."

      link to rehmat1.com

    • Israel is built on a lie and the nakba is a reminder of this lie, but I don't think that Zionists are as distressed with the memory of the nakba, since their memory of the holocaust overrides it, as they are of the associated word "return" that scares the hell out of them. Bravo and a big thank you to the Jewish guys at Zochrot for keeping both the memory of the nakba and the prospect of the return alive.

  • PA considers ‘re-defining security coordination’ with Israel in wake of Palestinian govt minister death
    • Seafoid, the people on the streets of the WB and Gaza are calling for an intifada; the only ones that appears to be bucking it are Abbas & Associates. This will become clear Sunday when Abbas will be giving peace and the Israelis "one more chance". By peace, I mean peace for the Israelis and for that he will be called a true statesman by Kerry.

    • "Abbas has been pressured not just by the US but also the EU, Netanyahu and al-Sisi."

      One can always rationalize Abbas' inactions. Things are always happening to him. If it's not the US puling the chair out from under him, it's Israel or Hamas moving the earth from under his feet..What he has made happen?

    • "Their aim is simply to incite."

      Wake up, Mayhem, those officials are on your side and the people there don't need to be incited. You probably haven't heard that despite what the officials want, the people are against the long term gas deal with the Zionists.

    • Starting to see it now and where it's headed. It will be centered around the conflicting medical reports out of the Palestinian side saying it was outright murder and out of the Israeli side saying it was simply a heart attack. This controversy should be enough to trigger a joint commission to look into what actually caused the man's death, with results to come out in about 18 months so until then would Palestinians please crawl back into their cages. Abbas will surely promise doom and gloom to fall on Israel if the commission concludes it was murder. If the Godstone Report about the over 1000 dead Gazans was thrown in the trash bin and if the latest killing of over 2000 Palestinians is already forgotten, what's to expect from a report on the death of one man?

    • Since there is no edit button on the horizon, I have to start wearing my glasses. Sorry for the messy typos.

    • Here we go again, the rabbit being pulled out of the hat right on cue: Abbas has postponned the scheduled Friday evening meeting that was intended to formally announce the end of the sercurity arrangements with the bad guys until Sunday. This will undoubtedly have the double effect of letting Palestinians passions cool off and to give Israel the opportunity to present Abbas with some face-saving gimmick or other to force the Palestinians back into their cage. Maybe Israel could release a few prisoners or some other jest to buy the peace. The postponement coupled with Shaath's long-distance announcements is a dead giveaway. Kerry must have whispered sweet nothings in Abbas' ears, or maybe Neranyahu threatened to turn off all of the Palestinians' lights and phone lines.

  • We're all anti-American now
    • "Putin has done a masterful job so far in dealing with US/NATO aggression in view of his relatively weak position. "

      Keith, Putin made a fundamental mistake that others before him tried and ended up in big trouble. Saddam, Gadaffi, Chavez, the Iranians; it was moving away from the petro-dollar. Nobody does it or even hints at trying to do it stays alive. Now he's doing it in his mega deals with China and India; it's only a matter of time. The US threw Ukraine at him to soften him up. With his breakeven at over $100, $65/barrel is knocking the wind out of his sails. Nobody messes with the US.

    • "The US is poised to impose sanctions on Venezuela over the sometimes-violent suppression of anti-government protests which racked the country earlier this year. "

      Just, it's neither the hypocrisy nor the suppression of anti-government protests that have anything to do with it, there are similar abuses eleswhere, especially in Arab states where the US turns a blind eye because it's in its interest to do so. Likewise, the US is helping the Ukrainians with their "democracy".

    • "Why do people line up to come to this country?"

      Friedman's timing for coming out with this is shitty, but other than that, it is a fact. In spite of its warts, just about everywhere, people are actually lined up to try to get into the US. Same with Canada, Australia and most European countries.

    • I know you're not anti-American, just, and I'm sure neither is Phil. The term is being used here as a figure of speech to denote your distress.

    • "Oh I am proud to be a Canadian" (Oldgeezer)

      Me too.

    • Oldgeezer, some of that history was glorious and some of it a little less and this could be said about most countries. Despite a few road bumps along the way such as with renditions and the Royal Vic story, until a few years back, Canada's name was among the cleanest in the world. Even today, compared to other Western countries, it's still up there among the best.

    • "I’ve been ashamed for so long…"

      Wrong emotion, just, you've done nothing to be ashamed of. You'd be right to say that you're angry with what's been happening around you because you have no control over it, but shame has nothing to do with it.

      John Douglas in his reply to you started off on the right foot when he said that he's done nothing to be ashamed of, but in midstream he took off on something or other about it being wrong to have any sense of pride in one's country, which is also wrong.

      I'm not an American and I surely feel no shame whatever for what America is doing, but I am critical of some of its actions although not to the point of considering myself anti--American as most Americans are expressing themselves absurdly here. This torture shit is bad news, but in honesty, how many other countries are not into some form or degree of torture? It doesn't make it right, but it's there in all its ugliness everywhere.

    • "There were several meetings amongst the intelligence services professionals at which this turning point was analyzed, one in Montreal I believe where the parties discussed the value of sensory deprivation techniques -"

      That was nothing in comparison to what the CIA did in Montreal in the late 50s and early 60s in the name of fighting the Cold War. At the McGill teaching hospital, The Royal Victoria's Allan Memorial Institute, the CIA with the knowledge of the Canadian Government conducted a series of tests on the effect of LSD as a potential truth serum on mentally handicapped patients without the patients' permission or that of their legal guardians; the testing on vulnerable, trusting hospital patients were transformed into virtual vegetables through doses of "electroconvulsive therapy" 30-40 times more powerful than usual, sensory deprivation, hallucinogenic and paralytic drugs, and other psychological and physical tortures.

      Similar testing was being conducted in the US that included testing on children as young as 8 years old. Legal action was taken by patients in the US and Canada against both governments but both got away by paying token amounts.

      Full story for those interested:

      link to ctka.net

    • "Shame on us, America, and that we paid other nations to help us stoop to such horrible crimes"

      Over 50 countries participated directly or indirectly in America's torture program and one of them was Canada, but at least it ended up apologizing for it and paying damages. The Canadian federal police force (the Mounties) snitched to the Americans about a Syrian-Canadian being an al-qaeda agent. The US arrested him at JFK and sent him to Syria under its renditions program.The Syrians kept him locked up at Damascus notorious torture facility known as the "Palestine Branch" for over a year to be tortured. Syria finally admitted that the Canadian was not guilty and released him.

      On his returnto Canada, he sued the Canadian government, the US, Jordanian and Syrian ones for wrongful detention and torture. Only Canada came clean. Prime Minister Harper issued a formal apology to the man and his government settled out of court by paying the victim $11.5 million. The federal police commissioner resigned as a result of the force's (RCMP) blunder.

      Full story on the Syrian Canadian, Maher Arar:

      link to en.wikipedia.org

  • 'Suicide Drones' and the Spoils of War: Israeli arms manufacturers look to cash in on the war in Gaza
    • Drone and other arms testing for both the US and Israel was done in good part in south Lebanon on human targets until 2000 when the Israelis were kicked out. It picked up again in 2006 in Lebanon with the war and in Gaza.

      From the Guardian in 2006 discussing Israel's use of DIME bombs:

      "Doctors in Gaza have reported previously unseen injuries from Israeli weapons that cause severe burning and deep internal wounds often resulting in amputations or death.
      The injuries were first seen in July, when the Israeli military launched a series of operations in Gaza following the capture of an Israeli soldier by Palestinian militants.

      Doctors said that, unlike traditional combat injuries from shells or bullets, there were no large shrapnel pieces found in the patients' bodies and there appeared to be a "dusting" on severely damaged internal organs.

      "Bodies arrived severely fragmented, melted and disfigured," said Jumaa Saqa'a, a doctor at Shifa hospital, the main casualty hospital in Gaza City. "We found internal burning of organs, while externally there were minute pieces of shrapnel. When we opened many of the injured people we found dusting on the internal organs."...

      full article:

      link to theguardian.com

  • Palestinian minister dies after Israeli army assault during olive tree planting ceremony in West Bank village
    • "Time to insert the UN blue hats. Israel cannot be trusted."

      The ones that know it most are the blue hats themselves; over 150 have been deliberately targeted and killed by Israel since they started their patrols in 1978, with apologies every time of course. BTW, the blue hat-peacekeepers concept was a Canadian one that was instituted after the Suez war of 56 on Egypt by France, Britain and Israel, That year, Lester B Pearson, Canada's PM that came out with the concept won the Nobel Peace Prize.

    • NickJOCW, in time, ISIS will ask Israel to convert or else. That will be Israel's rude awakening. The crazies of ISIS don't have friends and don't want any either. For now, Israel's field hospital on the Golan and the tent city within Israel, probably for R&R, along with drone reconnaissance and training is what ISIS is now getting out Israel. What Israel is getting in return is an element that's keeping the Arab states in a state of chaos.

    • Seafoid, all day long a parade of Palestinian notables from ALL parties were calling for ICC action and to suspend cooperation with Israel. I'm holding my breath till tomorrow evening to see what rabbit Abbas will pull out of the hat this time.

    • "Birds of a feather?"

      Not at all, but they are riding the same bus for a small stretch of the way and helping each other in the process. That bus has other riders on it, some of them from Western countries and some from Arab ones. ISIS didn't just grow spontaneously under a cabbage leaf, it was nurtured along. People are starting to wonder how is it that the official armed opposition in Syria after having just received $400 million in equipment from the US has suddely become equipment-poor, with no more Western supporters and has become an inconsequential force while Syria's al-Nusra (ISIS) has flourished into a fully equipped and funded military force.

    • OT; for those ISIS watchers, this terrorist empire that now controls a territory that contains 9 million people has announced 3 new franchises in North Africa. Allegiance was pledged to it by Ansar al-Sharia in Derna (population 150,000) in east Libya, by Jound al-Khalifah in Algeria and Ansar Beit al-Maqdis in Egypt. With its oil producing wells and a happy client base in Europe that's enjoying its ridiculously low bargain-basement oil prices, it can go on existing for decades.

    • Just, sad to have to remember that in the event that the Palestinians decide to cut off relations, Israel currently has control over just about all the electricity, the telecommunications and the water being supplied to the Palestinians in Gaza and on the WB. We were discussing a few days back Bennett's threats and the ways an insane Israel could become super nasty.

    • Seafoid, it's highly doubtful that the Palestnians would actually take such drastic steps; I suspect this is more of Abbas' usual posturing and threats. Suspending security cooperation and coordination is almost the flushing of Oslo down the drain and the end of Israel's 44-year joy ride. Israel is being given 24 hours to come up with a plausible gimmick that would put the Palestinians back in the cage.

    • Just, the thanks are due to the writer of this important article, Asaad Abu-Khalil, a born Shia from a prominent political family in Lebanon's deep south ( I think he claimed somewhere to have dropped religion). He is interviewed often on major Arabic and Western media as a savy political scientist.

    • Saeb Erekat just announced that the Palestinian National Council has decided to follow a 6-step program that includes going to the UN, to the ICC. nd to stop all security cooperation with Israel. The only thing remaining to be decided is the timing sequence for the implementation of these measures such as deciding whether to go first to the UN and then to the ICC or to go to both simultaneously; the formal announcement and the sequence will be announced tomorrow everning.

    • "Amos Oz, Israel’s most celebrated writer, refers to his country’s extremists as “Hezbollah in a skullcap. "

      JLD, off on a tangent, this most celebrated writer that doesn't hav a clue what Hizbullah is about masquerading as a "compromiser" was in fact a warmonger favourable to the 2006 war on Lebanon and the 2009 war on Gaza. In 2010, Assad Abu Khalil had a long piece on him in al-Akhbar after Lebanon crossed over to the wild side by publishing this Israeli's autobiography in Arabic in Beirut:

      "Amos Oz: Arab Liberal Love for Israel.
      They want to make of Amos Oz a friend of the Arabs, by force. They want to crown him a king of peace. Those who included a secret clause about normalization with Israel in the Thomas Friedman-Abdullah initiative, they rush to try and vainly influence the political culture of the Arab world. Al-Saud liberal princes enthusiastically promote Amos Oz and his counterparts. They believe him to be a symbol of the “Israeli peace” camp. They try to convince the Arab people of the rightness of Zionism in their midst. That is their desire.

      Amos Oz is a lie. And this lie is a part of a bigger lie about the “Israeli peace camp”. The lie was invented by Arafat's team (led by Mahmoud Abbas at the time) in the seventies to justify the scrambling behind the freak of a Palestinian mini-nation, surrender to the enemy and to toss the arms very far away. Israeli commentator Gideon Levy exposed them recently in “Haaretz” when he said: “The Israeli peace camp didn't die. It was never born in the first place”. There is no Israeli peace camp. All of this was a fabricated propaganda by normalization Arabs to convince the Arab people that they need to stop the resistance. And Amos Oz is dear to the heart of Western liberals. They honour him sometimes too much for his own liking. He roams and moans in front of an audience that observes the movement of his eyelids. He mentions the Holocaust in a sentence and the Palestinian “terrorism” in the next one.

      I saw Amos Oz in 1992 in America. I was at the beginning of my teaching career at “Colorado College”. Oz was invited to deliver a public lecture. They came from all over the state to see him. Liberals flocked in the hundreds. I sat in an unobtrusive back seat and I could hear their moaning, and I felt the pain: I could almost hear the audience reach their climax. How grave my exile felt on that long day. I remember that only one British student understood my suffering. She sat next to me and said sympathetically even before Oz started talking: “What’s wrong? I read the expressions of your face”. I said: “If Mahmoud Darwish came to this university, none of these people would show up”. She said: “Don’t be unfair to me”. I was unfair to that student. Then Oz proceeded with a speech that he never tires of repeating in his articles and lectures. I grew more annoyed. I felt suffocated. I remember I kept reciting to myself what poems I memorized about Palestine: even that annoying poem of “Al-Akhtal As-Sagheer” (“The desert came alive complaining its nakedness, then we engulfed it with roar and smoke”, while the Arab armies were reluctant to fight, or were shooting at each other). Amos Oz captured the neediness of the audience. I almost burst. He bragged that he was never non-violent, and that he was proud of his fighting in the army of the enemy in the different wars. And then he invoked the Holocaust (as the Zionists always do and as does Ahmadinejad) in his speech, and he spoke of the signs of the collapse of the Nazi society, and how it started with the abuse of the language. They applauded him long in a standing ovation.
      Then came my turn, or rather, I stole a turn. I stood up and faced the audience, not him (in my unequivocal commitment to boycotting the enemy), without an invitation from anyone, except from Iyad Noureddine Al-Moudawwar, my martyr and my comrade. I said:...

      ... Since the nineties, the Al-Saud media have been adopting the logic of surrender to Israel through the exaggeration of the size (although I do not acknowledge its existence) of the so-called peace camp. “Al-Hayat” newspaper and others published praises for Shimon Peres, and the victory of the Labor in the elections became a realization of the promise and an achievement of victory. Ibrahim Al-Arees (who a year ago considered that the “Initiative” between King Abdullah for interfaith dialogue and between Shimon Peres is the greatest initiative in the history of mankind) called on “Al-Jazeera” and Arab media in general to host Amos Oz, because of his positive positions (in his opinion). The release of the book ”A Tale of Love and Darkness” was an opportunity to unleash a Saudi media campaign to urge Arabs to fall in deep love and affection with Amos Oz and other Zionists (Saudi and Hariri media started talking about pressure on Netanyahu from the “right” in his government, and that the Likud has become a middle or left in the Arab media criteria, which deals with «Kadima» as if it belongs to the far left). “The New York Times” published a long article on the Arabic version of the book, and included quotes of Abdo Wazen and bleak comments from Oz, in which he called the Arabs to accept Israel as a “refugee camp”, just like the Palestinian camps. This idiotic analogy wants us to believe that a state which has received more than one hundred billion dollars in American aid since the sixties only, which has a huge arsenal of weapons of mass destruction, which bombed during its history Tunisia, Sudan, Egypt, Lebanon, Palestine, Jordan, Syria and Iraq, which invaded the Arab countries surrounding Palestine, is comparable to the camp of Sabra and Shatila. Amos Oz preached to the Arabs, and they listened diligently...

      ... These Arab liberals (the code name for the horns of Al-Saud, Al Al-Hariri and Al-Nahyan), what do they want? Their shamelessness has no limits. They want the Palestinian people to deduct about 78% of the precious land of Palestine for the Zionist movement, and then demand that people bow to the boots of the occupation army. And then they ask them to read the writings of the Zionists of the usurping entity. Ah, how the words of the “wooden language” sound like music to my ears, and how ecstatic they make me feel! Then, we ask Abdo Wazen and others, why do they stress the need of the Palestinian people to read Israeli writings? Why not ask Arabs to read African or Latin literature, for example? Political objective is obvious from their words that are drowned in the ink of normalization of the initiative of King Abdullah to bow to Israel. Elias Khoury believes that translating Hebrew literature into Arabic is a “necessity” and that “in order to connect at a deep human level”! An urgent need? Why? ..."

      Full article:

      link to angryarab.blogspot.com

  • 'Our Liberation Will Not Be Complete Until Everyone’s Is': A report from the American Anthropological Association boycott debate
    • Kerry's been busy on the phone all afternoon starting with a call to Abbas to not do anything rash and then to other foreign ministers of Arab states to ask them to lean on Abbas to prevent him from doing anything.

    • Seafoid, I'm just as distressed by Kerry's comment as by the death of Abou Ein; I've had a suspicion from way back that it would be only a question of time before the bretheren would sell the Palestinians down the river.

    • Palestinians are all talking about the ICC. Abbas can no longer stall. There are hints about an intifada. Kerry's Sunday remarks about Arab states willing to work with Israel against terrorism worked against the Palestinians.

    • Video in Arabic from RT about the event that started out as the peaceful and simple planting of olive saplings:

      link to youtube.com

      Palestinians are being asked to demonstrate in the streets.

    • Things are starting to boil on the WB and in Gaza. This is a first for Palestinians to have one of their ministers killed in broad daylight. The Palestinian National Council is demanding this be taken to the UN and to the ICC today. Abbas is saying he will not remain quiet about this, whatever that means. Hamas is asking for all security cooperation with the Israelis to stop.

    • The man was killed for wanting to plant olive trees. This is Israel.

    • PA Minister without portfolio, Ziad Abou Ein at a demostration this morning to plant olive trees was beaten over the chest with rifle buts by the Israeli soldiers just died on his way to hospital.

      Abbas back to making speeches this morning about what happening an still refusing to take this or anything else to the ICC

  • The Israel of your dreams has turned into a nightmare: A letter to Jewish students
    • "I fear that in the US, many parents are teaching their children that hating immigrants, others, and especially Muslims is a- ok because they believe it."

      Just, hard to tell who this phobia is actually aimed at; it could be simple anti-black racism since a quarter of al American Muslims are black while these represent about 5% of all blacks. A substantial percentage of America's penal population is black and many of those are Muslims, commonly called Black Muslims. Here's a part of an article from an American Islamic publication discussing the black element in the context of Ferguson:

      "... Ferguson is our issue because, before Muslim-America was “Arab” or “South Asian,” it was Black. Enslaved Muslims constructed the first mosques, observed the inaugural Ramadans, and paved the streets and roads we drive atop today.

      Although our segregated masjids won’t reveal it, Black Muslims comprise the biggest segment of the Muslim American population. More than one-fourth of Muslims in the United States today are Black. While disoriented as an “Arab religion” in America, there are far more Black Muslims than Arab American Muslims. Black Muslims also outnumber South Asian Muslims, and rank as the fastest growing demographic of the faith’s domestic population. Muslims aren’t the “New Blacks,” as many pundits stated after 9/11. Muslims have always been Black.

      Ferguson is our issue because Muslim-America has not learned from its political blunders. Before 9/11, when racial profiling was a Black and Latino issue, few if any Muslim-American leaders or organizations spoke against it. Self-interest, combined with ethnocentrism and anti-Black racism, persuaded us to deny solidarity meetings with MALDEF, the NAACP, and pioneer opponents of profiling. Our seat at that table, until 9/11, was empty. We believed then that “profiling is not our issue,” until the two planes collided into the World Trade Center.

      While Muslim Americans may have forgotten, Black and Latino Americans remember our void at the table. And more vividly, our rush to it following 9/11 when PATRIOT and FISA snuck into our homes, communities, and institutions.

      Ferguson is our issue because the same structures that ruthlessly enforce anti-Black racism also execute and endorse Islamophobia. Long before Muslims bodies were monitored for fear of violence, subversion, and security, these tropes drove the systematic surveillance of Black bodies.

      Black Muslims, who sit at the intersection of anti-Black racism and Islamophobia, endure compounded mistreatment from the state and private citizens. And most damagingly, remain largely excluded from the Muslim American civil rights and advocacy organizations responsible for retrenching racism and religious animus within our communities.

      Ferguson is our issue because during 9/11 and the Boston Bombings, the crises of yesterday and those that are certain to unfold tomorrow, the state’s and society’s fury will again shift in our direction. For those Muslim Americans who turn away from the struggle in Ferguson; argue that, “structural racism is a farce,” “Black on Black crime is the real problem;” or that the “grand jury decision was fair and not driven by racism,” I ask that you apply this mythical reckoning to your own circumstance when the heat and hate is pointed in your direction. Because it surely will, and this shortsighted analysis will not only turn away those allies you deride today, but also expose your self-serving hypocrisy.

      Ferguson is our issue because we have failed our faith, falling short of its unequivocal commitment to racial tolerance and justice. Our missteps are many, and mistakes too numerous to list. Ferguson offers an opportunity to rebuild, and construct that missing pillar of cross-racial commitment that will make us worthy of our faith, and – one day – trustworthy to our Black brothers and sisters."

      link to theislamicmonthly.com

  • Saban confronts Bennett: 'Are you willing to cut commercial ties with Europe?'
    • Great rules, amigo, you could add to them the one about breaking the Palestinians' legs and knees so they would never play again. Looks like FIFA swallowed that one too and nothing became of what Israel did to young Palestinian footballers.

    • Annie, I think Abu Dhabi is trying to best Doha's Museum of Islamic Art that's also built on a small island and designed by the great American architect I.M. Pei (then aged 91)that also designed the pyramid in front of the Louvre. The Doha museum is great with its super simple and uncluttered Arabic lines. I've been to the one in Doha and from the animation of the one to be built in Abu Dhabi, I think Doha's is going to be hard to beat.

    • "... Men with four wives."

      What's Hophmi's complaint about men with 4 wives? Didn't the 12 tribes issue from Jacob's 4 wives?

    • "The UAE and Abu Dhabi were sandboxes in 1972. Non-existent, basically." (MRW)

      Big changes since back then. Dubai is all about smoke and mirrors, which Abu Dhabi ends up paying for anyway, but the real substance is found in Abu Dhabi. Among its current mega projects, it's having the Guggenheim Foundation build an $800 million museum designed by Frank Gehry that also designed the one in Bilbao. Museums-wise, Guggenheim has come a long way since Frank Lloyd Wright's basic marshmallow on 5th Ave.

    • Just, something else Kerry mentioned on Sunday night to the enlightened Zionists, he said that Arab states are willing to enter into a joint pact with Israel to take on ISIS. This comes at the heels of news last week on Silverstein's blog that the UAE government has contracted with an Israeli company to provide security systems for it.

      Where does that leave the Palestinians? It's looking more and more that the Palestinian cause as far as the Arabs are concerned is toast. Nonetheless, it is a perplexing proposal; how can states allegedly financing ISIS enter into a pact to fight ISIS with a state that is helping ISIS in Syria and Iraq and that's opened a field hospital for it on the Golan and a small tent city inside Israel? Twilight Zone stuff.

    • Bennett is the Israeli version of ISIS; if Netanyahu can say that Hamas is ISIS, then I can say that Bennett is ISIS.

      About the faux-Moslem version of ISIS, last week ISIS came upon 4 kids all under the age of 15 and asked them to convert to Islam. The kids refused by the ISIS guys asked them again to profess their faith in Islam. The kids again refused, answering "we love Jesus". The 4 kids were beheaded.

      link to myocn.net

      Right up the air in the same class as Bennett.

    • "What did Assad stand to gain?"

      Absolutely nothing, lysias, Hariri with the help of his poodle Chirac, was keeping the dogs away from Assad. The biggest loser with Hariri's death was in fact Assad. It's said that to trigger the start of the "New Middle East", a Pearl Harbor event was needed and that event became Hariri. The following year was the failed July Israeli war on Hizbullah as a prelude to hitting Iran.The Syrians were not bright enough nor possessed the sophistication to have pulled it off in any event; it appears to have been a collective effort of several countries, as demonstrated by the half-dozen countries that categorically refused to help with the investigation, such as the US with an AWAC and Israel with a drone in the sky over Beirut at the time of the blast, Germany that produced the super-sophisticated explosive, the UAE where the rigged truck was purchased, and so on.

    • "The point is not whether Israel can actually do those things with the electronics,"

      Mooser, nothing has to be done, it's about planned obsolesence.

    • "Russia can’t control Ukraine and it has a much bigger army and more fearsome weapons than Israel. "

      Seafoid, it's the $65/barrel that's going to hurt Russia. Arabs too can play dirty and they can afford the losses to help their uncle Sam, especially that it also targets Iran.

    • Remember those hundreds of Israeli kids-tourists that end up opening temporary kiosks in shopping malls to sell Israeli cosmetics? And now they want to do away with visas for Israelis?

    • I meant "it wasn't actual Israelis doing the work"

      Where is the damned edit function?

    • "Here I’ll repeat my story about the several Israeli employees who were caught spying at the big telecom I worked for years ago. "

      It happened in Lebanon a few years back, Horizontal, only it was actual Israelis doing the work deep within the country's largest cell provider but Lebanese employees that had been hired by Israel to set up back doors accessible to Israel. With these systems in place, Israel manipulated phone company records to frame 5 Hizbullah members in the International Tribunal for the Hariri assassination that the court is using a circumstantial evidence to indict the 5 while it has been proven that Israel mucked around with the cell companies' records to create this bogus evidence.

      Also for the International Tribunal's ongoing investigative work, it has asked that the Lebanese government provide all records of its civil registers, academic records of all students, all motor vehicles registrations. These were all uploaded to computers to be sent to the Tribunal in The Hague, but rather than be taken by the UN to Beirut's International airport to be flown to the Hague, they were trucked about 100 miles overland from Beirut to Tel Aviv to be flown to The Hague. The very long arm of Israel.

    • It's not just about the stents, we are discussing them because blabbermouth did, it's about influence and control. What about almost every American police force having been "trained" in Israel on something or other. As far as I'm concerned, these policemen have been inculcated with the Zionist mentality, including choke holds and rubber bullets have become ticking time bombs. You also have several major international airports being manned by Israeli security staff and most of the equipment of major phone companies in the US are are being monitored by Israeli companies. Last week, Silverstein had an article up on an Israeli company hired to set up $300 million's worth of securty equipment and systems for the UAE government; it can't get more absurd than that.

      I'm not saying that Israel simply has to press a button as the idiot is insinuating, but I'm saying that Israel's long tentacles are already stretched all over the West and it can do a lot of harm if wants. Whether it's stupid enough to pull such a stunt is another story. How many Congress people does Israel NOT control?

    • I wouldn't take him too lightly, amigo, he's right about the stents and chips and a few thousand other gizmos that Israel has planted all over the world. These crazies can do a lot of damage if they decide to play dirty against the West. Lately, they have been planting such mines in Arab countries too.

  • Mamdani's 'holistic' challenge: Anti-Zionists must persuade Jews they can only be safe by dismantling the Jewish state
    • What increased immigration? Israel has an annual migration deficit of 7,000 people with the largest incoming group from France (thanks to a lot of spooking antisemitic activity fanned by the Criff) of 2000 people a year, which is nothing to brag about.

    • I get the feeling that Marwan Barghouti would be a clone of Arafat, but I could be mistaken.

    • Thanks, W.Jones.

    • W.Jones, what roles would you see Palestinians playing in a one-state?

    • Before Buttu was fired by Abbas at the express request of one of the PA's British benefactors, she was an official spokesperson for the Palestinians along with partner Michael Tarazi, also fired by Abbas for being too efficient in presenting the Palestinians' point of view on Western media. The Canadian Diana and the American Michael both extremely eloquent in English were nonstop on American networks explaing what was happening to the Palestinians and scorring points everytime, especially in debates with Zonists. There were so good that they had to be fired, leaving the task of speaking for the Palestinians to a mumbling, babbling and stuttering spokesman.

    • "... Diana Buttu have op-ed pieces published by NYT today. "

      In a nutshell, she's saying that in the upcoming elections, all of Israel's political parties are the same shit; Despite promises to the contrary, they'd all continue stealing the land and oppressing the Palestinians.

    • "A corollary of Mamdani’s thesis is that there must be a credible government in waiting, ready to oversee the transition from ethnocracy to non-ethnocratic democracy. Otherwise, the dominant ethnic group will not be persuaded that there is an alternative to continuing ethnocratic rule. " (George Smith)

      A worthy observation. Did not exist in the days of Arafat and the gang and even less today with Abbas with the same gang, which plays perfectly into the Zionists' hands. Even worse, is some Palestinian concept that their salvation would come with Marwan Barghouti, which would be more of the same. Palestinians are a very long way off from having their ANC or any other form of government in waiting.

  • Israel has no answer to BDS, Barghouti tells packed hall at Columbia
    • "Very boring lot."

      I'll venture a guess that it must have been an international teachers'convention. If you wanted to see sparks fly, you should have gone to a nurses one.

    • "The romance you have with Islam is kind of funny Annie. ( DoubleStandard)

      A very ignorant comment.

    • Of course, Just, Netanyahu is the friend of ISIS; remember his visit to a "rebel" field hoispital Israel had set up on the Golan? Birds of a feather.

    • Today, Israel's air force gave another helping hand to ISIS by attacking Syrian positions close to Damascus airport and a village near the Lebanese border. Both areas hit are considered safe areas under the control of the Syrian Government. Israeli jets buzzed the sky over Lebanon all afternoon on their way to hit Syrian positions. Israel gave the usual reason for the attack saying it was intercepting Syrian shipments of arms to Hizbullah.

    • Here’s a picture that may make people feel unwell: “Bennett at Saban Forum... :

      Talhami missing from Saban's groupie photo.

      -

    • Horizontal, speaking about the "Link", Sir George Williams University, that later became part of Concordia University had been the site of of another student riot in 1969 provoked by accusations of unfair grading of Carribean students. It resulted in the thrashing of the university's main computer room on the 9th floor of the Henry F. Hall Building. The event had been preceded by the university's paper that was then called "The Georgian" that had been given over for one issue to the Carribean students that turned it into a "Black Georgian". It would be great if today the paper would be turned over to the Palestinians for a "Palestinian Link" issue.

      link to cbc.ca

    • Bravo to your gf's daughter, Horizontal. Concordia left a very bad taste in Netanyahu's mouth in 2002, and so did the rest of Canada wherever he went that year. The riots at Concordia prevented Netanyahu from showing up to give a speech there.

      From BBC News in 2002:

      "10 September, 2002,

      Canada protests stop Netanyahu speech
      Protesters hurl rocks after breaking a window at Concordia University in Montreal
      Police dispersed the crowd with pepper spray.

      About 200 pro-Palestinian protesters have clashed with police in the Canadian city of Montreal, prompting officials to cancel a planned speech by former Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu.

      Before Mr Netanyahu arrived, demonstrators packed the hall at Concordia University where he was to speak - tossing chairs at police, who used pepper spray to clear the room.

      Binyamin Netanyahu speaks to reporters in Montreal
      Netanyahu called the protesters 'zealots'
      University officials then announced that the event had been cancelled because of security concerns. Five demonstrators were arrested and a window was smashed.

      More protests were scheduled for his appearance on Tuesday in Toronto and Mr Netanyahu said he planned to raise the Montreal demonstration in talks with the Canadian Prime Minister, Jean Chretien.

      Mr Netanyahu accused the protesters of being against democracy and in favour of terrorism.

      "They're supporting Saddam Hussein, they're supporting [Yasser] Arafat, they're supporting [Osama] Bin Laden," Mr Netanyahu said.

      A crowd of mostly pro-Palestinian protesters also shouted slogans outside a theatre in Winnipeg, where Mr Netanyahu, who was Israel's prime minister from 1996 to 1999, gave a speech later on Monday.

      At the Montreal protest, some demonstrators accused Mr Netanyahu of being a "war criminal".

      Protesters clash with police in Montreal
      Some protesters called Mr Netanyahu a 'war criminal'
      "There's no free speech for hate speech," said protester David Battistuzzi, 24, a former Concordia University student.

      "This man said in 1989 Israel should have taken advantage of the Tiananmen Square massacre to expel the Palestinians from Israel.

      "He's a violent man... this man is a war criminal."

      The university was embroiled in controversy last autumn over a student publication containing pro-Palestinian views that critics said promoted violence.

      link to news.bbc.co.uk

  • In major shift, one third of Americans want US to push for one-state outcome in Israel/Palestine
    • "I can’t wait until Palestinians have equal access to the courts, and bureaucracy can start suing, charging, and finally getting some of their stuff back, and finally getting some accountability."

      Don't hold your breath, Mooser, Abbas had promised he's do it by the end of last month. Now he's promising to do it before the end of this month. You'll probably hear of another end-of-the-month promise in January, and in February and so on until the cows come home.

      Even better, in anticipation of a failure to pass for the resolution setting a deadline of November 2016 for Israel to decamp out of the territories, which the UNSC surely will reject, Abbas plans on going to the ICC. That will show them.

      If it's a forgone conclusion that the US will veto the resolution, why not go directly to the ICC? Loking like the Palestinians are still not seriously considering doing anything.

    • ".... well, it’s not reported much for sure. but that doesn’t necessarily mean people are not aware of it. i remember the big protests last summer and they hardly ever hit the press.'

      Annie, the point Horizontal didn't raise was about the ongoing silence about the Palestinians' right of return. Israel doesn't wasnt to hear anything about it, the Palestinian leadership have just about flushed it down the drain (Jazeera Papers), and the rest of the Arabs in general can't be bothered sticking up for it. The only 2 countries that ever raise the issue are those with hundreds of thousands of Palestinian refugees on their hands, Syria, which has its hands full these days, and Lebanon that no one listens to. This involves about a million refugees that nobody wants with another half million in Jordan. There are no Palestinians in refugee camps in other Arab countries.

    • "The only solution which is both morally sound and politically possible (just barely…) is two states. It’s the only path towards peace. "

      Of course it is, or rather it was, Jon, but Israel walked away from this logical solution a long time ago. The Arabs that included Palestine made such an offer to Israel in 2002 and again in 2004. Israel answered with an increased settlements expansiion program.

    • Foresomenteneikona, I'm not familiar with Talhimi and his work, my harsh comments were of the poll that came across as an encrypted message favouring the Zionist enterprise. Being associated with a Saban outfit didn't help to soften my views of it. I have the same reservations about whatever that comes out of Brookings' branch office in Doha, Qatar; a couple of years or so back, the Doha director was a guest speaker at the Herzliya annual gathering of vultures. Talhimi being associated with such people from near and far puts him in league with the bad guys as far as I'm concerned.

      I'd be grateful to hear Ramzi's reaction to the poll. If he tells me I'm wrong, I'll shut up.

    • "... the state of Israel is living on borrowed time."

      I think it knows it and it's simply stalling for time until it can start producing enough water to meet its needs, which is about 10 years away. Until then, it cannot afford the luxury of giving up close to over 3/4 of its water which it's now stealing from the Palestinians in good part.

    • "1S1P1V"

      I fully agree, although I have no voice in the matter. The only way to reach that goal is for BDS to chart a new course to go after Israel proper rather than just its settlements.

    • Thanks for taking the time to read through it and commenting on it, ritzl, for a while I felt like a "voice in the wilderness". I found a 50-minute interview of Telhami that recounts how he grew up as a Christian in 1950s Israel in a Haifa suburb and the way he recounts it, it was all sugar'n'spice living under the Zio regime, so he's not your run-of-the-mill anti-Zionist activist. Some of it has to have rubbed-off.

    • "However, 64% of the poll’s participants expressed that they did not want Washington to take a position partial to either side in particular. "

      That's a sleazy way of saying Americans polled don't object to the US letting Israel run amok as far as the Palestinians are concerned. That poll is full of smoke signals saying much differently what the poll is supposedly telling us about the Palestinians finding a little more sympathy with the Americans. Phil here made a summary of the polls summary and the actual results when reviewed question by question asked and how it was answerd are not at all favourable to the Palestinians, as far as those hand-picked 1008 interviewees are concerned.

      The title is saying that 1/3 are for a one-state; what do the other 2/3 say? That poll is a Zionist torpedo.

    • "In major shift, one third of Americans want US to push for one-state outcome in Israel/Palestine"

      Rirzl, on reading beyond the title, I'd say that the majority of those 1008 polled that were hand-picked by the pollsters had a pro-Israel leaning. The general thrust of the poll appears intended to show that the Americans would favor a US veto against Palestinian statehood and similar positions if asked to side with either the Palestinians or Israel on various issues.

      The difference of opinion shown between Democrats and Republicans in this poll is nothing less than a smoke screen. Telhemi is an Israeli Palestinian and the Center for Middle East Policy that's behind this poll is generously funded by Cheryl and Haim Saban.

      Reading through the short poll and the overall generalization to each question will show you where this poll is heading. As a rule, pro-Palestinian issues are not published in the US, so this one was suspect from the start, especially coming from a Saban-related group.

  • Islamophobia reigns in Newsweek comment section-- 'Towel head camel humpers'
    • Oldgeezer, except for redneck areas, until 911 Arabs living north of the 38th never had any problems although you have a point about how Arabs were always portrayed by Hollywood. Things started deteriorating seriously after 911 and with the inflow of North-African immigrants with their demands for separate schools and so on and making overall assholes of themselves.

    • Amigo, I wasn't exactly right either, I believed he was a Jew that converted to Catholicism but on checking back, it turned out the other way around. He was a Roman Catholic that became a Jew. I stand corrected too.

    • What is different in Dean Obeidallah's milking of Michel Brown's story to highlight Palestinians' woes from the Zionists milking the holocaust at every opportunity? I don't agree with these parallel gimmicks.

    • "Probably because not that many people know what an ISIS flag looks like. "

      Probably, but could also be indicative of how much the students follow international news. The ISIS flag was prominently displayed at the executions of American journalists Foley and Sotloff. They recognized the Israeli flag from the never-ending spoon feeding on American TV of poor Israel under the threat of Hamas' mighty rockets that also displayed the kiling of so many civilians in Gaza.

    • Amigo, I'm not better informed about them than you are. I try to stay away from Jews discussing Jewishness among themselves to avoid getting a bloodied nose; I don't believe in their exceptionalism as much as they do, especially when they argue against it, which in fact confirm it.

      Getting back to Yaakov that I remember well from Haaretz 2006, from one of his posts on YNet in 2008, he claims to be a Roman Catholic that became a Jew and so calls himself a Roman Catholic Jew. One of his few posts opn the same day in 2008:

      " 79. As a Roman Catholic Jew I am supporting this idea.

      When I served as a missionary in Israel (12 years) I encountered lots of those phony evangelicals who claim they are true Christians. This is`not rtue because they even don't worship Mary..

      As to Jews I was really sad because they don't agree to convert at all. Even when I converted to Judaism and started to claim I am Jewish and speak Hebrew they never believed me and refused to hear about our Christ. This is the reason I am quite pessimistic, but effort must be made nevertheless.

      aakov Sullivan , NYC (09.17.08)"

      link to ynetnews.com

    • Just, I don't remember it being rampant before 911. It was there of course, like so many other phobias, but it really took off with 911 and Bush claiming Americans were hated for their freedom.

    • Amigo, if I'm not mistaken from a while back at Haaretz, , I think Yaakov is a convert to Christianity.

  • AIPAC seeks to blow up negotiations between Iran and US
    • "he movie Argo was a fascinating story..."

      Yes, Shingo, if you put it into the category of fiction. The movie is yet another Zionist attempt to demonize Iran. The rescue of the 6 American hostages was a totally Canadian operation led by the then Canadian Ambassador in Teheran, Ken Taylor who was the actual hero in this story. Here he clears up a couple of points "diplomatically" to save American face (he now lives in NYC) after the movie won the award.

      From the Toronto Globe and Mail:

      Ken Taylor sets the record straight about Argo’s take on the ‘Canadian Caper’
      SIMON HOUPT
      The Globe and Mail
      Published Monday, Feb. 25 2013, 6:05 PM EST

      There was no life-or-death interrogation at the departure gate. No anti-authority bravery by a lone-wolf CIA agent. And Canadian wannabe heroes didn’t try to grab a spotlight that properly belonged to the U.S. intelligence service.

      In the wake of Sunday night’s win by Ben Affleck’s Argo for best-picture Oscar in a ceremony viewed by more than 39 million Americans, the man who served as Canada’s ambassador to Iran during the 1979 U.S. hostage crisis says he has accepted Hollywood’s penchant for poetic licence, especially now that key figures are vouching for the importance of the Canadian contribution to the rescue mission.

      Video: So what's wrong with the Oscars show?
      Still, Ken Taylor would like to set the historical record straight about what happened after the U.S. embassy was overrun by militants on Nov. 4, 1979, and six Americans found safe haven in a pair of official Canadian residences.

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      Argo says: Tony Mendez was a CIA agent who single-handedly dreamed up the cockamamie rescue scenario that would see him fly into Tehran, prep the six Americans with the cover story that they were actually a Canadian film crew in the country to scout locations for a science-fiction film, and then thread the needle by spiriting them out from under the watchful eye of the trigger-happy Iranian Revolutionary Guard.

      Taylor says: While the CIA did finally settle on the Hollywood cover idea, Taylor intended for the six Americans to leave on their own as part of a wave of Canadians departing in the normal course of international travel. “I was cutting back the staff,” he recalls. “[The Americans] would just be Canadians going through, some on business, some going back after temporarily serving at the embassy.” Sometime before the date of departure, the CIA decided it wanted to send in two agents to travel with the escapees. “Tony and one other officer came in, then went out. I think they were at the airport and monitored their [departure]. Because there was no interrogation at the airport.”

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      Argo says: Travel documents were skillfully, single-handedly forged and doctored by Tony Mendez.

      Taylor says: “The documentation was totally prepared in Ottawa.” That included passports, business cards, credit cards and other ephemera (receipts from restaurants in Toronto, Montreal etc.) that would help establish the legitimacy of the six Americans as a Canadian film crew. After one Farsi-speaking member of Taylor’s staff discovered an error in the documents, more passports were issued by Ottawa and couriered via diplomatic pouch to Tehran.

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      Argo says: Filmmakers built up the tension by having (the fictional) Ken Taylor inform Tony Mendez that Ottawa had given orders for the embassy to be closed, which would have left the house guests with nowhere to go.

      Taylor says: “It’s inconceivable that Canada would have closed the embassy while U.S. diplomats were still there. It wouldn’t even have occurred to us.”

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      On Monday, Taylor said he was mollified by former U.S. president Jimmy Carter telling CNN’s Piers Morgan last week that the film greatly exaggerated the CIA’s role and underplayed the Canadians’ contributions. “When a U.S. citizen makes that case, it really has an authenticity to it, and a disinterest,” said Taylor. “He’s just clarifying those first three months.”

      Still, at least one participant in Argo remains aggrieved: After the ceremony, the Iranian wire service Mehr News suggested first lady Michelle Obama awarding Argo the best-picture Oscar proved there was a conspiracy between the White House and Hollywood to make Iran look bad. “As further proof of this purported conspiracy,” reported Variety, “Mehr claimed that most movie critics preferred Lincoln.”

      link to theglobeandmail.com

  • Elbit Systems loses key Brazil deal over Palestine protests
    • Elbit losing out on a joint deal of $17 million is not a big victory and almost as absurd as the divestment from it of a couple of millions by the Norwegian sovereign fund a few years back. At the time, Elbit's annual report indicated it had back orders of several billions, which made the amount of the divestment almost a joke; at the time, the Norwegians maintained about $500 million in investments in various other Israeli companies.

      Among its various contracts, it's currently building integrated fixed towers ($145 MM) on an apartheid wall in Arizona for the US to keep the Mexicans out.

      Over at Richard Silverstein, he's discussing an alleged $300 MM deal between an Israeli security firm and the UAE. This bit of news dilutes whatever gains from the $17 MM story.

      BDS has to stop pussyfooting around the settlements issue and go after companies with investments in Israel proper.

  • Israel has always been crazy
  • UN commemorates Palestine's long journey
    • Israel gets its day at the UN with full coverage on January 27th each year. It's supposed to be a day also for the gypsies, the homosexuals and the handicapped that were horribly treated during the war, but Israel always ends up stealing the show.

      At last year's Palestinian day at the UN, Mohammed Assaf sang for the small crowd gathered there.

      For this year's January 27th event, President Obama released a statement, that was about Israel, Israel and Israel. Not a word about the gypsies, the homosexuals or the mentally and physically handicapped that were killed or tortured by the Nazis, or even the Armenians, the Rwandans and so on:

      President Obama: "Statement by the President on International Holocaust Remembrance Day

      Each year on this day the world comes together to commemorate a barbaric crime unique in human history. We recall six million Jews and millions of other innocent victims who were murdered in Nazi death camps. We mourn lives cut short and communities torn apart.

      Yet even on a day of solemn remembrance, there is room for hope. For January 27th is also the day Auschwitz was liberated 69 years ago. The noble acts of courage performed by liberators, rescuers, and the Righteous Among Nations remind us that we are never powerless. In our lives, we always have choices. In our time, this means choosing to confront bigotry and hatred in all of its forms, especially anti-Semitism. It means condemning any attempts to deny the occurrence of the Holocaust. It means doing our part to ensure that survivors receive some measure of justice and the support they need to live out their lives in dignity.

      On this International Holocaust Remembrance Day, Michelle and I join the American people and our friends in the State of Israel and around the world as we reaffirm our obligation not just to bear witness, but to act. May God bless the memory of the millions, and may God grant us the strength and courage to make real our solemn vow: Never forget. Never again. "

      link to whitehouse.gov

    • I don't think it has to do with butt-kissing, oldgeezer, it's mostly about his religious convictions, the second coming and so on, so he's very sincere in his devotion of Israel. He took Canada off the list of UNRWA donors and chose instead to send a contribution directly to the PA to fund some of its activities. This somehow doesn't make much sense.

  • Pssst! Is Israel going crazy?
    • From someone that should know, from Carmi Gillon at Arutz Sheva:

      Former Shin Bet Chief Slams Netanyahu as 'Egomaniac'

      Former Israel Security Agency chief Carmi Gillon attends leftist protest, says Israel led "by a bunch of pyromaniacs".

      First Publish: 11/30/2014, 3:20 AM

      Former Israel Security Agency (Shin Bet) chief Carmi Gillon on Saturday night launched a scathing attack on Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu and the Israeli government.

      "Israel is headed today by a bunch of pyromaniacs and is being led by an egomaniac to its final destruction," said Gillon, who spoke at a demonstration by leftists protesting against the Jewish State Law outside the Prime Minister’s residence in Jerusalem.

      “The Jewish State Law will eat the body of the entire nation like a cancer. The continuation of the radical and messianist policy on the Temple Mount will bring about a Gog and Magog war against the Jewish people," he added.

      link to israelnationalnews.com

      Feiglin's response: Gillon Should Sit at Home and Shut Up

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