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  • 'Children killed in their sleep': Israeli artillery fire hits UN school, killing at least 20
    • Shajaiyah street massacre of a few hours back is up to 17 dead and 200 injured. Blood and body parts all over the place.

    • The first big massacre at a UN compound at Qana was in 1996 when Shimon Peres had it shelled killing over 100 civilians huddled there in what they thought was a safe shelter.

    • BTW, those 16 dead in the massacre that just happened on Shujaiah did so during the cease fire. In the first 10 minutes of the cease-fire, Israel killed 4 people.

    • The Iranian that issued the threat was Qassem Suleimani, the commander of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard's Quds Force.

    • A new massacre happened half an hour ago, 16 dead in a shelling of a heavily trafficked street of Shujaiah. Being shown on Mayadeen now, with bodies strewn all over the ground.

      Iran has threatened to do something about Gaza.

  • As night follows the day, deaths of 10 Israeli soldiers lead to deaths of 30 Palestinian civilians
    • Sorry, just, it happens to me every time Gaza gets savagely attacked by Israel. It almost gets me back to smoking.

    • Just the song is somewhat disappointing of Assaf, he could have said more, raising of heads and dignity won't buy the Palestinians a cup of coffee. He pussy-foots with his rah rah song but doesn't actually say much beyond raising heads and a passing remark about stones. His family being fervent pro-Fatah and his main sponsor, the Saudi media and recording conglomerate may have had something to do with it.

      In contrast, you have the Gaza song released last week by the Lebanese Julia Boutros (her mother is Armenian-Palestinian) that doesn't mince her words about what the Palestinians should do. Al-Mayadeen has been playing it hourly since its release:

    • The newest massacre at dawn today: UNRWA's Abu Hussein school in Jabalia where 20 of those that had taken refuge were slaughtered and tens of others seriously injured. Israel's reputed economy of scale in action.

  • Israel advocates are in a battle with US media
    • Could be they were growing the funny stuff on Patmos; no other reasonable explanation for all these hallucinations.

  • Photos: Across the U.S., thousands continue to march in solidarity with Gaza (Updated)
    • Good to hear, Henry, I've had my authentic one for a couple of decades. Diehard Zionists get visibly upset when they see one up close. It's surprising Israelis haven't claimed it as part of their patrimony.

    • Harry that ban will now multiply anti-Jewish actions in France many times. The French don't tolerate any messing around with their freedoms and with this restriction, BDS France is going to have a picnic.

    • Great photos, Henry, thanks. Can't help wondering and hoping all those keffiyeh scarves that everyone is wearing have been produced in Palestine to help its economy and not in China that doesn't really need any help.

  • Israeli embassy puts Mona Lisa in a hijab -- 'Israel now, Paris next'
    • The movement is obviously odious today and has been so for a very long time, but I'm still curious to know if it started out that way or if it became what it is today somewhere along the way.

    • "Communautarisme is a stigmata, meant to attack ethnic minorities when they start to form a “community” (supposedly alien from the wonderful values of the french republic that every white french person respects)." (french_jew)

      You're right french_jew, getting the Jews to move away from anti-republican communautarisme is what Clermont-Tonnerre intended 225 years ago when he declared to the constituent assembly, "Il faut tout refuser aux Juifs comme nation; il faut tout leur accorder comme individus; il faut qui'ils soient citoyens." In short, Jews had to get on the republican bus by putting France first, which they did for a long while but today, Jews are trying to wield over France the same influence they have over the US but the French aren't swallowing as easily as the Americans. CRIF has reduced French Jews back to being a nation by putting Israel first and French nationalists can't be blamed for giving French Jews a bad time. The blame rests on Israel.

    • From al-Ahram:

      "8 Palestinian children among 10 dead as Israel hits Gaza refugee camp

      At least eight children were among 10 people killed at a Gaza City refugee camp, medics said, with witnesses saying several missiles were fired from an F16.
      But the Israeli army categorically denied any attack on the camp, accusing Palestinian militants of firing rockets at Israel which apparently misfired.

      Emergency services spokesman Ashraf al-Qudra said 10 people had been killed, among them eight children who had been playing in the beachfront Shati refugee camp.

      He said another 46 were injured, among them many children.

      Local residents told AFP that several missiles were fired at a tuktuk motorised rickshaw near a children's playground.

      "An F16 fired five rockets at a street in Shati camp where children were playing, killing some of them and injuring many more," one told AFP.

    • Haaretz:

      LIVE UPDATES: Five IDF soldiers killed in Gaza and on border

      Netanyahu: Gaza operation won't end until tunnels destroyed; rocket alerts on Lebanon border; five Israelis killed by Gaza mortar fire; rocket barrage fired at north; Palestinians: Three killed in IDF strike on Gaza hospital.

    • eljay, I'm sure that's the intent. These creeps have been talking of repeating the evil of the Dahieh carpet bombing in which they had used bunker busters. I suspect starting tonight that's what they intend doing over the whole area that borders on Israel. So far they are about 300 meters inside Gaza and will surely expand that distance after they carpet bomb it.

    • Kassam said it was shelling an army compound.

    • amigo, was listening to it live on Arabic Jazeera with simultaneous translation to Arabic.

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      Gantz looked like a bus had run over him.

    • I missed Netanyahu's opening statement. Yaalon is now announcing massive blows starting tonight and over the coming days by shelling and bombing from the air, land and sea. He is saying words of encouragement to all the injured in Israel and that Israel is not going to stop until Hamas is totally defeated and asks Israel's civilian population for its support.

      Now Gantz is talking and elaborating on destroying the tunnels and that the IDF will be doing everything possible to protect its citizens. Civilians are asked to move away from border areas. A few more days are needed to complete the job

    • Israel has acknowledged 4 dead but the Kassam Brigade is insisting that Israel is fudging the numbers as it should be 6.

      Israel's channel 10 saying that the IDF will be expanding its Gaza operation tonight.

    • New massacre by Israel: 10 children dead and 40 injured in a park of a refugee camp west Gaza by shelling.

      Today is supposed to be the happiest day of the year for Muslim children and a day to visit graves of relatives. Both are being shelled.

    • From Haaretz"

      "LIVE UPDATES: At least four Israelis killed by Gaza mortar fire; rocket barrage fired at north"

    • Nothing really wrong seeing a Mona Lisa in a hijab. Last year I saw a poster one in a popular market in Doha and it was more than just a hijab; Mona Lisa also had the face mask that showed only her eyes. I would have bought it but I wasn't in the mood to carry it all evening, so I passed on it. Nothing at all offensive but rather funny. The only ugly thing about this silly Zionist campaign is that it aims to spook Europeans that in time they will be forced to wear the hijab. Cheap propaganda.

    • It's being reported that 6 settlers died and 10 injured by howitzer fire at Eshkol.

  • How many would be alive today if Obama had not quashed Goldstone Report?
    • "I’m a veritable aficionado, and I’d still turn down the offer."

      I know you are and I can't really fault you for not getting into it, it would make you lose respect for the justice system because it is so politicized. In its first 4 years, the tribunal was adamant that Syria was behind the assassination and set about trying to build a case to prove it. At the end of 4 years, it admitted it had nothing on Syria and was back to starting from scratch. After the first year, witnesses that eventually proved to be perjurers had testified that 4 Lebanese generals had been involved. The generals were imprisoned for 4 years without being formally charged and tried and held simply on suspicion. After the witnesses were found to be frauds, the generals were released. It was then decided that Hizbullah had something to do with the assassination so a case was developed on that basis and now there are 4 or 5 accused Hizbullah members indicted based on the cell phone records that it has already been established were tampered with by Israel. The tribunal will run around in circles at the Hague for another 15 years or so at a cost of about $50 million per year.

    • "International Criminal Court: 12 Years, $1 Billion, 2 Convictions” (Hostage)

      If you're into international criminal court charades, look into the UN's Special Tribunal for Lebanon for the Hariri assassination. Almost 10 years after it has been unconstitutionally set up on a moonless night and to date having cost about $500 million (half paid by the UN and half by Lebanon), resignations of 2 dozen judges and prosecutors, erroneous imprisonments based on false witnesses' testimonies that it can't prosecute and other wall-to-wall irregularities such as not being accountable to any outside body and another one being that it has an indefinite time limit, all it has come up with so far is a flimsy indictment of 4 people on circumstantial evidence comprised of cellular phone call records that appear to have been doctored by Israel. At the rate it's going, it will surpass the 12 years, $1 billion record easily but will come up with zero convictions.

      A short summary from a couple of years back:

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  • Gaza-- and 'Guernica'
    • "the Koran recognizes the original gift of the land to the Children of Israel."

      Yonah, quoting the Quran about Jewish ownership of the land isn't any more intelligent than quoting the Bible. You should know that much in the Quran is sourced from the Bible anyway; it's the compounding of folklore. At one time, Muslims prayed with the Jews to Jerusalem and observed Yom Kippur with them too, but these don't validate the Jews' claim to the land either.

    • I'm dying to know how Allison made it in; that in itself must have been an adventure, especially that there is no safe place from the shelling and bombing anywhere in Gaza and even medical help being prevented from crossing into Gaza. One Egyptian official in a TV interview said that the actual Rafah closing was happening on the Gaza side by Hamas and not by the Egyptians, but he looked like he was lying through his teeth.

    • How did Allison get in???????

  • Attacks on demonstrators in Rome
    • On another occasion, that slimeball also said Gazans should be put on a special low-calorie diet that would starve them but not enough to let them die. BTW, that guy with the nice thoughts towards Palestinians is today legal consultant to the Palestinian posh real estate $1 billion real estate development "Rawabi", a joint enterprise of Palestinian al-Masri and the Qatari "Diar" Developer.

      Another Zionist slimeball, Martin Kramer was peddling Gunnar Heinsohn’s rule of thumb that says that when 30 percent or more of the total male population is between 15-29 (fighting age), violence ensues, which is the case in most Arab countries and more specifically because the average age in Gaza is closer to 17 to remedy this anomaly, Kramer proposed (to the vultures at Herzliya) that international pro-natal subsidies to Gaza should be stopped that would curtail birthrates from having "superfluous young men" grow to become terrorists. Another Zionist starver of people that would nip them in the womb. Zionists have a fixation about starving Palestinians. Sick, sick, sick mentality.

      Martin Kramer at the 2010 Herzliya conference; he stops beating about the bush and gets into the meat about starving pregnant Gaza women around the 3 minute mark of the 6-minute video.

  • Kerry is off the Israel bandwagon
    • seafoid, Guardian article talks about the fun and games days ahead with ISIS controlling Syria's and Iraq's water supply, but those games have already started with Turkey having already reduced the flow to these 2 countries; from al-Akhbar May 30th:

      "... By: Suhaib Anjarini
      Published Friday, May 30, 2014
      The Turkish government recently cut off the flow of the Euphrates River, threatening primarily Syria but also Iraq with a major water crisis. Al-Akhbar found out that the water level in Lake Assad has dropped by about six meters, leaving millions of Syrians without drinking water.

      Two weeks ago, the Turkish government once again intervened in the Syrian crisis. This time was different from anything it had attempted before and the repercussions of which may bring unprecedented catastrophes onto both Iraq and Syria.

      Violating international norms, the Turkish government recently cut off the water supply of the Euphrates River completely. In fact, Ankara began to gradually reduce pumping Euphrates water about a month and half ago, then cut if off completely two weeks ago, according to information received by Al-Akhbar.

      A source who spoke on the condition of anonymity revealed that water levels in the Lake Assad (a man-made water reservoir on the Euphrates) recently dropped by six meters from its normal levels (which means losing millions of cubic meters of water). The source warned that “a further drop of one additional meter would put the dam out of service.”

      “We should cut off or reduce the water output of the dam, until the original problem regarding the blockage of the water supply is fixed,” the source explained.

      The Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) controlling the region the dam is located in did not suspend the water output. Employees of the General Institution of the Euphrates Dam are running the lake under the supervision of al-Qaeda linked ISIS, but they don’t have the authority to take serious decisions, such as reducing the water output. In addition, such a step is a mere attempt to ease the situation, and it will lose its efficacy if the water supply isn’t restored to the dam by Turkey.

      The tragic repercussions of the new Turkish assault began to reveal themselves when water levels dropped in al-Khafsa in Aleppo’s eastern countryside (where a water pumping station from Lake Assad is located to pump water through water channels to Aleppo and its countryside).

      The reservoirs are expected to run out of water completely by tonight or tomorrow morning at the latest.Meanwhile, water supplies in auxiliary reservoirs in al-Khafsa are close to being depleted and the reservoirs are expected to run out of water completely by tonight or tomorrow morning at the latest. This threatens to leave seven million Syrians without access to water. Also, Tishrin Dam stopped receiving any water which blocked its electricity generating turbines, decreasing the power supply in Aleppo and its countryside, further intensifying the already severe imbalance in the power supply..."

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    • Inanna, Hollis must be a another believer that Israel is the navel of the universe. When she says that the Palestinians' defenders are more anti-Israel, she is talking a cheap shot at Iran. Regime-wise, I don't see any other defenders than Syria as all the rest don't appear overly anxious to see the birth of a Palestinian country. Today, you can see more of the real Palestine in Gaza than anywhere else, and just about all the neighbouring Arab regimes are against it.

    • It's already too late, seafoid, not only for Israel but to many other countries including some powerful ones in the West. ISIS is growing by the day. The Guardian article doesn't take into account the nurturing of the frankenstein Islamist monster by the US that was initially created by the British. The links between ISIS, the US and the Gulf powers were not covered.

      An essay here 3 years ago by Nu'man Abd al-Wahid details the use of Islam as a tool of subversion first by the British and then by the Americans that are still using it today.

      In a nutshell, Nu'man Abd al-Wahid says that the use of Islam as a tool of subversion began with the British helping Abd al-Aziz Ibn Saud and his fanatical Islamic Wahhabi allies capture Riyadh in 1902 and later to fight the Ottomans in 1915. They also did it in Egypt in the 1940s by funding Hasan al-Banna's Muslim Brotherhood to keep Muslims busy fighting among themselves and that the British likewise promoted Mohamed Ali Jinnah's Muslim League in India to keep Gandhi's India in a state of imbalance.

      After the British dropped the use of the Islam card at the start of the 50s, the US picked it up to use it in its conflict with communism inheriting from the British all three strands of Islamism, the Egyptian, Saudi and Indian using it first in the Eisenhower Doctrine, in various upheavals and later with the anti-Soviet mujahedeen and subsequently the Taliban, to the phony Arab Spring revolutions of Tunisia, Egypt and Libya and what we are still seeing of its use in Iraq, Syria and elsewhere. It will eventually turn on the US, Saudi and Israel and bite them in the ass.

      Nu'man Abd al-Wahid's essay on Mondoweiss "British colonial strategy and the 9/11 blowback"

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  • Destruction of Gaza's children is something 'every one of us must confront' -- Jon Snow
    • Great video. Good thing it was in Canada otherwise those sweet kids could have been hurt.

    • "... the Hamas’ leaders live in bomb shelters and abroad in opulent mansions of luxury."

      There's a massive Zionist/Egyptian/Saudi campaign since a week to disparage the Hamas leadership that describes their millions and billions as well as their opulent lifestyles. While some of this information is probably true, it's odd that there isn't a single word being said about the financial situation and lifestyle of the leadership of the Palestinian Authority on the West Bank. Do you have anything to say about them, Norman?

    • "MJ Rosenberg tweets "I'm proud to be a Jew, proud of our history and culture, but Israel's war on children makes me deeply ashamed."

      So contradictory, Rosenberg should make up his mind. He's in the same perplexing situation as Mahane.

  • In Photos: Worldwide protest against Israeli attack on Gaza (Updated)
    • On Palestine, Arabs talk a lot but actually do very little.

    • Henry, thanks for the note on Arabs participating and actually leading elsewhere; it gives a small boost to my faith. Sorry I hadn't seen it before.

    • Kids were not swimming but playing soccer on the beach.

    • News now showing live pictures of the children on the beach, some with missing arms, others with missing legs, A very sad sight.

      If this is Israel's idea of spooking the Gazans into submitting, they're mistaken. Gazans are becoming more determined with each massacre.

    • 3 missiles just aimed directly at a group of children swimming on the beach. 4 children dead so far all aged less than 10 and all from the same family of fishermen that live on the beach . Israel specializes in killing children, A couple of days back, Israel hit a home for the handicapped. Wicked people.

    • Spring, India is far away and with the Modi connection, you can almost understand it but how do you explain the same thing happening to Palestinians at the hand of Palestinian police? From AIC:

      "The Palestinian Authority prevents people from expressing their anger at the occupation, so the centers of struggle moved to areas where the PA has no influence: Jerusalem, within Israel and the West Bank's Area C.

      Clashes between Palestinians and Israeli security forces erupted across the West Bank, Jerusalem and within Israel following the abduction and assassination of Mohammed Abu Khdeir, constructing a new and volatile political reality.
      Abu Khdeir was abducted at dawn on July 2. The 17-year was forced into a car, taken to a nearby forest and burned to death by Jewish Israelis.

      Clashes erupted the same day at 8am, when police attempted to forcibly disperse concerned neighbors who came to visit the family as they heard news of the abduction.

      Since then the situation has evolved to appear like the possible beginning of a third intifada, accompanied by an Israeli military offensive against the Gaza Strip. In the West Bank, the Palestinian police retreated from the main roads and other areas of friction and confrontation. In the past the police used to prevent such confrontations.
      The second intifada began in Jerusalem's al-Aqsa mosque, and later spread to the West Bank and Gaza Strip. The second Intifada did not address the question of the Palestinian Authority, which then was led by Yasser Arafat, who succeeded in maintaining national unity and avoiding the trap of internal confrontations, as pushed by Israel.

      he situation is different now, after Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas clearly stated he won't allow "a third intifada." His directives are applied by the Palestinian security services, leading to escalating tensions between the Palestinian government and Palestinian people."

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    • Harry, I trust you didn't believe a word of what Erekat supposedly said.

    • Remember the Israelis picnicking at Sderot to watch the Cast Lead phosphorus show over Gaza in 2009:

      Israelis were back at it last Wednesday; from the NYT with photos:


      July 14, 2014

      Last Wednesday night, as he stood on a hilltop outside the Israeli town of Sderot and watched the bombardment of Gaza on the plain below, a Danish newspaper reporter snapped an iPhone photo of about a dozen locals who cheered on their military from plastic chairs while eating popcorn.

      Allan Sørensen, a veteran Middle East correspondent for Denmark’s Kristeligt Dagblad, then uploaded the image to Twitter with a sardonic caption that described the macabre scene as “Sderot cinema.”

      The image of the Israeli spectators was taken after 9 p.m. local time on Wednesday, the reporter said, about the same time that what was intended to be a “precision strike” from Israel’s military killed at least eight of their Palestinian neighbors, seated in similar plastic chairs at a beachside cafe in Gaza, waiting to watch the World Cup semifinal between Argentina and the Netherlands.

      As his image reverberated around the social network, where it was shared more than 10,000 times, the reporter was surprised by the response. It was, he said in a telephone interview from Israel, “nothing new.” Similar scenes, of Israeli spectators gathered on the high ground above Gaza to view the destruction below, were documented in a Times of London article and a video report from Denmark’s TV2 during Operation Cast Lead in 2009.

      Explaining that he has also previously witnessed Palestinians cheering news of bombings that killed Israelis, Mr. Sørensen said that, in a war, “this is what happens.” Civilians and fighters on both sides, he said, “go through a process of dehumanizing the enemy.”

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    • Harry, Hizbullah's threat to shut down Israeli shipping should Israeli blockade Lebanon again is not dependent on 1-man submarines but more on shore to ship cruise missiles that Hizbullah has in its arsenal. It's the C802 that was used to cripple the Israeli frigate INS Hanit in the 2006 war that has a range of over 500 miles and cruises at 5 meters above the sea surface.

    • Jon, why would Palestinian sympathizers chose the day of the Gaza demonstrations from all other days to make trouble at the synagogue? Israel has a long history of planting people to make trouble.

      The demonstration by about 6,000 pro-Gaza activists was made up mostly of women. Nothing happened throughout the 4.2 km march from Barbés to Place de la Bastille until it arrived at the end at the Bastille and young men started scuffling with the police and breaking storefront windows. They could have started from when the march began. The whole thing smells very fishy and Israeli.

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    • "... Also the tastiest falafel in the world, which I ate in a little jewish-owned restaurant"

      Best I've had were in an Iranian-owned restaurant that had just the right spicy bite to them and crunchy-crispy. Those I tried in a few Israeli-owned joints were tasteless, soggy and served in Greek flatbread pita that tasted like cardboard.

    • Must have been very very hard for Israel to do, but it has finally admitted that it has downed a Gazan drone over Isdoud. Israel that's built on a myth tries to keep all such news from its people. Maybe Israel broke its own rule this time to justify an even more vicious onslaught on Gaza ahead. It has already admitted to having 4 of its navy's Shatayet commandos injured in the failed seaborne mission to infiltrate Gaza, but has yet to admit to having lost a couple of Humvees to Hamas' anti-tank missiles a few days ago.

      No matter if the missiles run out or what's left of them is discovered and destroyed by Israel, Hamas now possesses the know-how to mass-produce them in the future as they have been doing in the last 2 years and they continue to do during the ongoing war now. It seems they learned how to make drones from studying children's toy model planes.

      Now all Netanyahu talks about is putting an end to the Gaza missiles. He's not talking much about anything else these days such as the need of Abbas to break the PN's relation with Hamas.

    • "... that Gazan militant should know just how much support Hezbollah, Syria and Iran have been giving them for years."

      A note for those believing to know all about the sectarian strife that separates Muslims, here are Hisbullah, the Syrian (regime) and Iran that are all Shia helping Gaza in spite of Hamas being 112% Sunni. Ironically, it's the other Sunni (only 100%) countries like Egypt, Jordan and those 130% Sunni Gulfies (except for Qatar) that are against Hamas and would like to see it ride into the sunset.

    • Mahane, it would have been helpful to have provided a mini translation of what the video is about. For someone that doesn't understand the language, it's just a bunch of ranting Arabs, which is probably what was behind your posting of it. For someone that is fluent in Arabic such as yourself, it couldn't have taken more than a minute.

      The people in the video were expressing their solidarity with the resistance in Hamas and cheering the launching of all the missiles that are giving them hope for the future. The greater good of those hundreds of missiles is not so much in having made nervous wrecks of Israelis, but in having lit a spark of hope in Palestinians.

    • American, if you look close enough, you'd see which parties are actually working in the shadows to fuel ISIS. It has become somewhat of a Murder Inc. arm of the central Sunni mafia.

      The Syrian "moderate"rebels for whom Obama has been campaigning to give the $500 million in arms and that had already received their second shipment of American anti-tank missiles have defected and sworn allegiance to ISIS that's already reaping millions from the sale of the Syrian oil, most probably to Turkey, and reaping other millions from the Kurds in royalty fees for the oil transiting in their held Iraqi territories to the terminal at Ceyhan, Turkey to be shipped to Israel and the US. For some reason, the US is allowing this to happen while it immediately jumped all over the Libyan rebels when they seized and tried to sell the oil in Libya.

    • A call for a massive demonstration to gather at Cairo's Journalists' Syndicate Center yesterday yielded only a few hundred participants. The only strong Egyptian voice to speak against the aggression was Coptic Pope Tawadros II that expressed solidarity with the Gazans. The photo above of the demo in Lebanon was in Saida led by a Nasserite group where a few hundred including Palestinians from the camps held a small rally for the usual speeches.

    • Kay, about that medical help, Shifa Hospital that has been treating mostly all of the 1300 injured and storing the dead is almost down to no supplies at all. During Cast Lead, there were long lines of medical teams and trailer trucks with medical supplies and even a Qatari mobile surgical hospital parked for weeks on the Egyptian side of Rafah border waiting for Egypt to open the gates. Made one think back to how the Israelis had held down the Palestinian refugees at Sabra-Shatila in 82 while the Lebanese militia butchered them. This time around, there is nothing out there at Rafah, Egypt parked and ready to roll in. The UAE sent in a small team of 15 medics and they brought with them some medicines.

      While the Saudi medical aid is welcomed, it brings to mind the Israeli doctrine of "starving the Gazans but not letting them die". Meaningful Saudi aid would be a simple phone call to Sisi, who just received billions in aid from Saudia, to open the Rafah gates and to keep them open.

      Half the ambulances in Gaza have become inoperable for lack of fuel and 70% of Gaza is without electricity, running water and an operating sanitary drainage system. A couple of days back, Israel tanks shelled fuel reservoirs and set them on fire. That Saudi help will mostly allow Israel to prolong the agony.

    • "... for instance Abbas refuses to formally sign up to the ICC and thereby gain standing,"

      In the absence of such signing up to these necessary conventions, you have no other choice but to agree with what Ramzi is pushing. It's bad enough that the WB is occupied and the Palestinians are not free to move around in it, in the case of Gaza is much worse as it's under an inhuman siege that has it locked tight on all sides since 9 years, especially by Egypt.

    • A cease-fire would advantage mostly Israel at this point, this is why the big scramble by all of Israel's friends to stop the Gaza missiles. Nobody is talking about the Israeli bombings though. It's missiles, missiles, missiles to make you feel sorry for Israel and to discount the horrors caused by the Israeli bombings.

      Yesterday Maariv reported that it was the very first time that Israel actually calls on the US to get a cease-fire in place. Usually it's the US that calls on Israel to stop its attacks.

      In short, eventhough Israel is killing Gazans and maiming many, it's desperate to get a cease-fire because Israelis can't take it anymore because they're not used to be the ones dodging the missiles.

      Gaza should hold on until the siege is lifted and not fall under Arab pressure to stop. Everything else is detail.

    • 6,000 demonstrators in front of Israeli Embassy in London. Another demonstration is scheduled for Tuesday and another massive one at the embassy next Saturday.

    • Shingo, Abbas called in Blair to fix things for Gaza. Take it from there. BTW, Sisi also hired Blair to help him manage the billions in funding coming to Egypt. The man must have some talent we can't recognize.

      Keep in mind that most Arab countries are anti-Brotherhood and for all intents and purposes, Hamas people are considered by near and and by far as Brothers. Only Qatar is pro-Brothers but it has had to soft-pedal that picture of itself lately to fall back into the good graces of other Arabs.

      UAE has sent into Gaza 15 medics with a bit of medicine.

    • Israel Channel 2 relayed Reuters report on rocket that fell on Israeli Air Force base near Beit Shemesh.

    • No, Kay, I hadn't seen that one but I'm a big fan of Galloway. He has a bi-weekly program on al-Mayadeen TV. Here is a short clip of him teaching some Arabs a thing on two about what they are doing wrong; the students ask their question in Arabic and he answers in English.:

    • amigo, Annie's and the others' in in the "ABOUT" section at the top of the page.

    • In one of the massacres of last night an F16 dropped one bomb on the house of the family al-Batch. The total family of 18, aged from the father that is 50 to the youngest aged 2, totally wiped out with most reduced to small pieces of skin. The blast was so powerful that it almost destroyed the totality of all surrounding buildings of the neighbours causing serious injuries to 45 neighbours, some of which are surely to die from their injuries.

    • Thanks, Annie.

      I don't know if I should be embarrassed or angry at the Arab non-showing in all these demonstrations. I heard one Gazan militant on TV saying that they didn't need the Arabs' arms, their fighters or their money. They just want the Arabs to stand with them in the same way the Americans, the French, The Brits, the Germans and every other country having come out in support of Israel in the shit they are doing. It's embarrassing and hurtful that Israeli ambassadors are sitting in Amman and Cairo while the slaughter is ongoing without being expelled..

  • Pro-Israel Facebook page is titled, 'Death to Dianna Buttu'
    • I've heard lots of "death to Israel" but have yet to hear a single "death to Jews" or "death to Israelis". The ill-wishes are aimed at the Israeli regime but not at the Israeli or Jewish people.

  • The killing fields
    • Like Abbas, a fair-weather friend wanting to ride the wave now that Hamas is scoring points all over the West Bank. Ashrawi just got on and Abed-Rabbo can't be too far behind.

    • It is very sad and depressing, Kay, but I somehow can't stop thinking of one Israeli in particular that posts with us here all the time that must be feeling really bad for what Israel is doing and he can't do anything more about it than we can. I can feel his sorrow even though he remains respectfully silent while we chatter away our frustration.

    • Disturbing article over at Silverstein's; something about Israel having killed one of its own to prevent his capture, as it had done once before during Cast Lead.

      Israel Murders IDF Soldier to Prevent His Capture
      by Richard Silverstein on July 26, 2014

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  • Oren's charge that networks showcase Palestinian dead at behest of Hamas is 'obscene' -- Penhaul
    • Just, but the Zionists were around and had their eyes on Palestine long before the Holocaust, or are you saying the Holocaust was the turning point for Zionism?

    • "It’s just not coherent any more ..."

      Was coherent at one point of time and if so, what time was that? What Zionism has become is amply evident from my pro-Palestinian viewpoint but what is not is how it started. Was it as a benevolent movement that changed course along the way or was it evil from the start?

    • Just, a very thin line separates those here that are pro-Palestinian from those that are anti-Zionist. I think of myself as being pro-Palestinian rather than anti-Zionist but I feel that most Jews here are anti-Zionist much more than pro-Palestinian.

    • Same no-article for me, only the headline and the comments.

    • Applying what it viciously calls the "Dahiya Doctrine" to Gaza is a piece of cake for Israel. It gets to test all kinds of new weapons on human guinea pigs and besides, all the fuel used and the munitions dumped on Gaza are free since the tab for both is picked up by the US.

  • Raising money for Israelis being bombed in hospitals and schools, NY synagogue has not one breath for Palestinian dead
    • "Israel bonds were exempted because it was believed that the intent of the lower interest payment was not tax avoidance. :

      Don't kid yourself, it's simply because it's Israel. Do you think Bulgarian bonds are US tax-exempt?

    • jon66, for the benefit of Kay that is concerned with not having any of her tax dollars heading towards Israel, you forgot to mention that by exception, the US (and Canada) grant a tax deduction for the purchase of Israel bonds, as it does on donations for all registered Israel charities. A few years back, the amount of Israel bonds purchased annually in the US totaled $500 million with an equal amount going to Israeli charities. So how much is involved by way of tax deductions on those Israel bond purchases and charity donations to Israel that Kay is inadvertently seeing being given up for the benefit of Israel? As far as lost income from taxes are involved, these are effectively donations.

  • PLO official Hanan Ashrawi: Israel's assault on Gaza is 'state terrorism' and should be referred to the International Criminal Court
    • "Or was the election and subsequent attempted overthrow merely two individual steps in the never ending process of keeping the Palestinian people in turmoil and therefore not ready for statehood and not a partner for peace."

      OG, Israel always needs to have a rogue present in the picture; I still remember back then how Abbas and the rest of the Fatah rogues didn't want elections held because they weren't ready for them and neither did Hamas who were sure to lose, but Bush insisted on having them held. Now I can see that the insistence had to be due either to what you mentioned or simply because it was sure Israel could and rig the elections to ensure a win for Fatah.

      To everyone's surprise especially Hamas, the 2006 outcome gave 74 seats to Hamas to Fatah's 45 because Palestinians wanted to get rid of the corrupt Fatah and that's when the US and Israel began their plan to get rid Hamas and haven't stopped since.

    • Just, the list is long but simply start with the police force that's there to look out for Israel first. For the current mini insurrection in progress on the WB, the young lads are having to fight their way through the Palestinian police blockades to reach the Israeli soldiers on which they could throw their stones. I don't have any super formula on what should be done because if I did, I'd be president somewhere and I'm not. The man has walked away from too many opportunities to do something positive for his people. Tonight, there's a whole lot of foreign ministers meeting in Paris to discuss the fate of the Palestinians, and there isn't a single Palestinian person among them. The Israelis and the Egyptians got together and came out with an Egyptian cease-fire plan on which no Palestinian was consulted and Abbas agreed with. The list can go on for ever.

    • Justpassingby, Hostage definitely knows his history and nobody can best him on it here; but he's got a soft spot for Abbas and feels that the man should be given a break because things keep happening to him. And on that, he is 100% correct, as his man never makes anything happen. There's the rub.

    • Abierno, don't be so hasty in discounting the Vanity Fair article simply because Hostage ridiculed it; it was cited a source document only 4 days ago by the Daily Kos. In a nutshell, it reiterated what was in the Jazeera article you linked to via AI.

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      I didn't refer to that article to give anyone the giggles but simply to add that the Jazeera/AI piece on Dahlan and the overall corruption of the PA had been also discussed in the Vanity Fair piece. Ridiculing the article by referring to its "stovepiping" facts does not negate the 2000 Egyptian automatic rifles and ammunition that the US had stockpiled under the trusteeship of Dahlan for a planned overthrow of Hamas that nipped it in the bud when they received advance notice of it in a leaked article in the "al-Majd " Jordanian newspaper.

    • Very interesting and spooky Abierno; story picks up where the Vanity Fair one ended. Not any wonder that Bush referred to him as "our man".

      I still can't figure out how he convinced Hamas to release the 40 captured UAE spies that had entered Gaza masquerading as medics a couple of weeks back or so and even let them return home.

    • "Hostage was very knowledgeable about our topics on MW and fun to talk with. "

      W. Jones, he sure is, beyond any doubt and he has my full admiration and respect for his knowledge. But he doesn't let anyone anywhere close to criticizing or attacking Abbas. Now I have to go straight to Abierno's AI link to read it.

    • "How can you “make” the ICC do its job when the prosecutor doesn’t want to?"

      You probably can't; that's what I meant about the big stick. Not to hit anyone over the head with it but to stick it in the spokes.

    • W.Jones, I'm not debating whether or not the Palestinians would get anything out of the ICC, there's a good chance they wouldn't not because of some technicality but simply because the US carries a very big stick; my problem with Abbas is for refusing to go to it, and for running interference for Israel since Oslo. But I'm sure he'd never lost any sleep over it since I'm not even Palestinian. I'll just wait for Hostage to come back to tell me that the US' big stick has nothing to do with the ICC because of such and such provision.

    • "yet here we are back to square one because Abbas will not sign up. I do wish Hostage would comment on this.

      Harry, all Abbas' apologist would answer to your question is to call you names because you still haven't grasped his 22 explanations on why Abbas has his hands tied behind his back in this sad train of events and to do otherwise such as going forward with the signing up would only raise the wrath of the Americans that would cut the Palestinians' allowance and cause them to starve. It's so simple and obvious, as Hostage explained it over and over and over; why can't you get it, or are you deliberately playing at not understanding, as he would ask?

  • Which crowded cities can you fire into?
    • Agreed, tree, the ethnic cleansing is a totally different chapter; now I understand better what you were driving at. The good Palestinians versus the bad ones came from a Zionist perspective but in actuality, this too was prevalent among Palestinians themselves and among Arab leaders that were amenable to having a Jewish state in Palestine as seen with the Faisal-Weizmann aborted deal and the various failed attempts between the Saudis and the Zionists to actually transfer out Upper Galilee Palestinians first to Syria to the arid Iraqi border and on another occasion to Iraq and bring in Iraqi Jews to replace them. Palestine Papers showed a bit of it and the PA's subservience to Israel is another.

      Sorry I took off on a tangent from what you were conveying, but I felt it opportune to mention that the Arabs too had had a hand in the Zionist effort you described.

    • Tree, skeletons aren't only in Zionist closets; the history of the sale of land to Zionists by absentee land owners, although not substantial in the overall picture, is seldom discussed by Arabs as it's also a skeleton in the Arabs' closet. Arab land owners sold at absurdly high prices which the Zionists were happy to pay, took the money and fled the country unless they were already living outside like in Beirut, Cairo and Damascus, and later to cover their tracks on the immoral land sale to the Zionists, claimed that the Zionists had stolen their lands. When the Zionists showed up on their newly legally acquired land and kicked out the peasant tenants that had not been told about the sale, these too innocently claimed their land was stolen from them by the Zionists. But again, these legal transfers of land to the Zionists while minimal in comparison to the total land actually stolen by the Zionists were nonetheless legal. A while back, Azmi Beshara wrote an article "Our Fathers on the Take" in which he described how between 1920 and 1948, 54 prominent Palestinian families while campaigning against sales of land to Zionists actually sold land themselves to the Zionists. Sale of Palestinian lands to Jews started slowly as far back as 1860 but really picked up after 1920 under the British Mandate.

  • Photo: Message on Israeli shell headed to Gaza, 'Thats for canceling the Backstreet Boys, you scum!'
  • 'Israel is wrong by any moral standard' -- Robinson says, as US media pile up
    • iResist, A follow up to your story on TGIA's blog:

      "Thursday, July 24, 2014
      Israel bans radio broadcast that named children killed in Gaza

      A Palestinian man takes a wounded boy to hospital following an Israeli strike
      A radio broadcast that announced the names of some of the children killed during the Israeli offensive in the Gaza Strip has been banned in Israel. Human rights group B’Tselem was told by the Israel Broadcasting Authority that the broadcast was “politically controversial” and has already had an appeal against the ruling rejected. “Is it controversial that the children [aren’t] alive? That they’re children? That those are their names? These are facts that we wish to bring to the public’s knowledge,’ B’Tselem said.
      Read more

      Posted by thankgodimatheist at 5:45 AM

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  • Hamas mimics Hezbollah tactics, and no one will have stability till blockade is lifted
    • The punishment consisted of being put in the doghouse for a month. Saudia, that all gulf states are under its influence recalled its ambassador from Doha and Bahrain and the UAE immediately did likewise although Kuwait and Oman also agreed with Saudia's move, did not go as far as pulling their ambassadors. Inter-Gulf commercial and other dealings were put in jeopardy and there was talk of an impending thread to blockade shipments to Qatar that got everyone there nervous for a while. This was done under the pretense that Qatar was not abiding by GCC security arrangements and was by its actions putting the security of all Gulf states at risk.

      In plain English, al-Jazeera, which is 100% owned by the State of Qatar and staffed almost fully by Brotherhood members, was still backing Morsi and the Brothers in Egypt and thereby pissing off al-Sisi and his Gulf sponsors that are avidly anti-Brotherhood and was not responding to the Gulf countries' request to lay off Egypt.

      It seems that after a month, things were finally worked out between Qatar and those boycotting it and Qatar resolved to show its goodwill (as crazy as it sounds), to open (still hasn't) a second all-news satellite channel that would be anti-Brotherhood out of London devoted to counter and compete with its own Al-Jazeera's pro-Brotherhood station. In other words, Saudia is the big boss and nobody should forget it.

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    • Shingo, in the ongoing conflict between the full Wahhabi Salafists and the mild Wahhabi Brothers, Gaza is being made to pay. It has become obvious that there is some bond between the ultra-Wahhabi ISIS and Egypt, Israel and the Gulf states excluding the milder Wahhabi Qatar. Al-Jazeera TV that is in full pro-Gaza campaign mode is running at cross-purposes with the rest of the Gulf and it's only a matter of time before Qatar gets punished for it again as what happened last string when all the Gulf states pulled their ambassadors from Doha because of its backing of Morsi. None had complained when Al-Jazeera dutifully campaigned against Zine al Abiddine, Gaddafi, Mubarak and Assad but when it continued backing Morsi and the Brotherhood, it fell from grace and now it's backing the Brothers in Gaza is bound to get it into more trouble with the rest of the Gulf..

    • He berated Arab leaders that he said were surely phoning Netanyahu non-stop to eliminate the Gaza resistance in the same way they were phoning Olmert to finish off Hizbullah back in 2006. He said these Arabs should be ashamed to use their satellites to broadcast messages endorsing the Zionist killing of children in Gaza. Nasrallah said these monarchies have mortgaged their thrones for the welfare of the Zionists. He reminded how Benny Gantz had declared on taking over as Chief of Staff that Israel could now defeat Hizbullah in 24 hours and Gaza in 12 hours and how after 18 days, Israel is still not succeeding and that's why it's taking out its frustration on the children of Gaza.

      After the lesson learned in Lebanon, Israel has now set a very low objective in Gaza which is to take out the tunnels, which it can walk away from without much embarrassment.

      Nasrallah said that what we are seeing in Gaza today is a repeat of 2006 and the war on Lebanon. In Lebanon, the excuse was the 2 captured soldiers and in Gaza, it was the 3 teenagers on which Israel launched a war without knowing who was behind the abduction. At least in Lebanon, it was known who had taken the 2 soldiers. He found it odd that Israel isn't at all talking about the captured soldier anymore.

      He was apprehensive about ISIS destroying churches and mosques that could lead to the Zionists destroying the al-Aqsa.

    • What he dropped at the end of his talk was a promise that Hizbullah will stand with the resistance in Gaza as full partners in the struggle as a victory for the resistance there is a victory for Hizbullah and will step in in whatever ways it feels it can be of help. In short he said that the resistance in Gaza is winning.

    • Nasrallah in person for Yom al-Quds speech that just started.

    • Great summary, Taxi. Are you as hopeful as I am that that El Cid is going to drop a big announcement about Gaza this afternoon?

    • Inanna, there's no rocket science to Israeli intelligence, it's comprised of 2 main elements, which are sex and collaborators. It's as good and as efficient as much as Israel's targeted victims of their spying can't keep it in their pants and as much of a collaborator network that can be set up.

      When Oslo was signed, there was something or other about Palestinians granting immunity to tens of dozens of Palestinian collaborators that had been on Israel's payroll, so as you could see from the current bombing campaign of civilian targets for lack of military ones, Hamas appears to have done a good job of weeding out the spies in its ranks. I read or heard somewhere that this was the first and most important lesson given to them by Hizbullah.

      Last year, Hamas did another sweep and another major spring cleanup of collaborators in its midst and this has surely prevented Israeli from reaching its arms caches.

      From the Guardian, last year:

      "Hamas promises amnesty to Palestinian collaborators spying for Israel
      Islamist group says any informers who hand themselves in to authorities by 11 April will not be interrogated or imprisoned

      Phoebe Greenwood in Tel Aviv and Hazem Balousha in Gaza City, Wednesday 13 March 2013 18.14 GMT

      Hamas has launched a campaign to convince Palestinians who collaborate with Israel to turn themselves in, offering promises of impunity and financial rewards.

      The Islamist group claims to have obtained a list of Palestinian informers in Gaza, which it has run since 2007. The territory's interior ministry held a press conference in Gaza City to announce that anyone on this list of collaborators who hands themselves in to the authorities by 11 April will not be interrogated or imprisoned. It also offered a monthly salary to the informer's families.

      Muhammed Lafi, an official with the internal security service, told reporters: "This campaign against collaborators isn't purely a security campaign, as it also has a social element. We do not discriminate between them according to their political affiliation, and we will provide them with information to make sure they can make right their mistakes and thus protect resistance fighters."

      While this is not the first time Hamas has offered amnesty in return for information from Israeli informers, this is its largest-scale campaign to date.

      ... The exact number is impossible to determine, but rights groups estimate there are hundreds of Palestinians who have been coerced or have volunteered to spy for Israel from Gaza. Hamas has issued more than 30 death sentences to suspected spies since it took over the Gaza Strip in 2007."

      Full article:

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    • Jon Snow is a fascinating journalist. That Yigal guy looks like a clone of all Israeli spokespersons with their sad eyes and phony sorry look on their faces.

    • Military censor has allowed Israeli press to publish last night's death in Gaza of an army reservist. Who said they didn't have freedom of the press?

    • It's confusing, seafood, I would have thought that Palestinians would be more popular among Democrats. Why the Republican dislike of Israel?

    • Surprising news about the new ISIS Caliph: he was made in the USA, the UK and of course, Israel. And Mahane gets offended when I say that ISIS is Israel's pal. Surprising because the news was released in a very pro-US Bahrain publication:

      "... Baghdadi 'Mossad trained'
      Posted on » Tuesday, July 15, 2014

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      WASHINGTON: The former employee at US National Security Agency (NSA), Edward Snowden, has revealed that the British and American intelligence and the Mossad worked together to create the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS).

      Snowden said intelligence services of three countries created a terrorist organisation that is able to attract all extremists of the world to one place, using a strategy called "the hornet's nest".

      NSA documents refer to recent implementation of the hornet's nest to protect the Zionist entity by creating religious and Islamic slogans.

      According to documents released by Snowden, "The only solution for the protection of the Jewish state "is to create an enemy near its borders".

      Leaks revealed that ISIS leader and cleric Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi took intensive military training for a whole year in the hands of Mossad, besides courses in theology and the art of speech.."

  • Israeli forces shell UN school where displaced Palestinians gathered, killing at least 9
    • Mahane, you put yourself in that position when you declared your pride in Israel in the middle of a discussion about the Israeli raids on WB homes; Arab countries too are known to have done some nasty things but you won't hear me going around bragging that I'm proud of them.

      "MahaneYehude1 July 1, 2014 at 1:26 pm with 24 replies

      Yes, Sir!!! In this hard day I proud to be Israeli. I proud that my government and my army did all efforts to bring their sons back home (unfortunately, this time, the bodies), I proud that my government cared even one soldier captured in Gaza for years, I proud my government did all efforts to bring back home bodies of three soldiers, one of them Muslim, from Lebanon back home, I proud my government put billions of dollars building shelters and develops equipments to protect its citizen, I proud in an open and democratic society, I proud, Amigo, I proud...

      I love you Israel, I love you IDF, I love you the people of Israel.

      Regards, my friend."

    • You should be hearing something in Nasrallah's speech for the annual Yom al-Quds (Jerusalem Day) tomorrow as it's the last Friday of Ramadan. He's been holding back but I think his patience is about to snap; he talks about moral responsibilities all the time, especially towards Palestinians, so I don't think he'll be making a routine speech.

    • 17 dead and over 100 injured at the UNRWA school where people had taken refuge.

      In today's massacre, Israel scored over 70 dead.

      Today's main dish: Flechette bombs that spray darts over a wide area to hit the most in concentrations of people. Should make Mahane very proud. A very sad sight to see on TV all the injured and dead people being brought to the hospital. The Saudi news channel "al-Arabia" is interviewing Syrian soaps stars on how they are doing their filming during the current insurrection.

  • Palestinians build tunnel to attack Israeli kindergarten, Netanyahu says
    • "I can’t believe for a second this is what the organization intended from the start."

      oldgeezer, even from its start and long before there was a Foxman, there's a long track record of devious acts in the dark side of the ADL; from a Mondoweiss thread 4 years back that included some poetry in the comments by Mooser.

      "... While the ADL’s public face was that of an organization determined to rid the country of neo-Nazis and skinheads, its raison d’etre in the absence of any serious threats of anti-semitism, was not defense of Jews, per se, but defense of Israel and the intimidation and public humiliation of its critics. While that invariably gained the ADL headlines, what was hidden from the public was of equal importance. The ADL, by the late 1980s had begun one of the largest private spying operations in the United States, a fact that was discovered by the San Francisco police in 1992 when it raided the ADL office after discovering that it had been working with a rogue SF cop, Tom Gerard, who had been providing the organization with personal non-public information about a host of American citizens, but, in particular, those supporting the Palestinian cause and opposing South African apartheid."

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  • 'Slate' blames Birthright for indoctrinating American Jew who was killed fighting for Israel
    • Yesterday, I saw a news clip of him leaving the hospital all smiles and walking out. He had also been injured at Bint Jbail in Lebanon 2006.

  • Israel's 'defeat'
    • This morning, a 2-month old baby died of suffocation from some shit or other dropped by Israel.

    • With 7 on the "very seriously injured" list. Probably Israeli jargon to mean these are already dead but will be declared so over a period of several days to break the news softly to Israelis.

    • seafoid, I agree as the BG closure has put a permanent dent in tourism and the only way out of this mess to get the Jewish tourists back is to make an all out peace with the Palestinians.

      What are all the stranded tourist in Israel to do? I heard about hundreds of Israelis stranded in Turkey.

      From Haaretz today:

      "Thousands stranded in Israel by canceled flights desperately try to get out
      Passengers are not eligible for compensation for canceled flights or hotel expenses.
      By Judy Maltz | Jul. 23, 2014 | 5:19 PM

      A departure flight board displays various canceled and delayed flights in Ben Gurion Airport.
      A departure flight board displays various canceled and delayed flights in Israel's Ben Gurion International airport. Comments (0)

      Israeli travel agents were inundated today with desperate phone calls from tourists stranded in the country and Israelis stuck overseas after most international airlines announced on Tuesday that they were temporarily suspending flights to Ben-Gurion International Airport."

      “The whole industry is on the verge of a nervous breakdown,” said the manager of a big travel agency in Tel Aviv, who asked that he not be quoted by name."

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    • Just, a bigger WOW are the 12 Hercules military transport planes given to Israel that came with the 1973 Yom Kippur airlift of munitions and a couple of Boeings. As of last April, the US began deliveries of a new batch of Super Hercules transport so Israel is going to end up with a fleet of at least 24 Hercules transports. The odd thing about all of this is that Israel is only 170 miles long. What are all those military transports for, if Israel's only a defense force?

      As to those 44 pre or post Cast Lead containers (they started arriving at Ashdod in March 2009, There's an agreement between the US and Israel whereby the US stockpiles munitions in Israel but Israel is given a blanket approval to use whatever it needs from them to defend itself. That's a polite way of stating that the US pays for all the bombs and missiles that Israel dumps on other people for its wars.

    • More important than the suspended flights into TA, we're not hearing this time anything about the airlifting of munitions between the US and Israel as is the custom whenever Israel decides to start massively bombing its neighbours.

      There were the airlifts of 1967 and those of 1973 that were publicized. We didn't hear much about those of Lebanon 82 but there had to be an American airlift, there always is. We had the airlift for the 2006 war on Lebanon that caused a big stink in the UK because of its laws against using its airports for this purpose and there was the huge transfer of arms in 45 containers that left the USA by ship in anticipation of the 2008-2009 war on Gaza. The worst of it is that Israel doesn't pay for these munitions dumped on Israel's neighbours.

    • Arab pro-Gaza news stations have been saying something about an F16 having beeen hit. Not necessarily downed but simply hit along with about a dozen tanks and troop carriers. Time will tell if there's any meat to the F16 claim. Major difference between Hizbullah 2006 and Hamas & friends 2014 is that Hizbullah had a camera crew taping every operation and every Merkava that was immobilized as well as the cruise missile hit on the Israeli frigate "Hanit" that was 10km out to sea on live television.

  • The deafening silence around the Hamas proposal for a 10-year truce
    • seafood, it's hoped that the Palestinians aren't going to sing that 2000-year song for just as long. Current Palestinians in the former Palestine have either been or will be ghettoized with not much worrying being done about them, those naturalized in Western countries are comfortable where they are and the only real pressure coming is from those in the camps of Syria, Lebanon and Jordan but these aren't allowed to raise their voices. Who's to fuss about the refugees when the Arabs themselves aren't bothering?

    • Shingo, a 10-year hudna serves to let Israel, the Palestinians and the rest of Arabs keep the right of return issue under the rug as by 10 years from now, about 95% of 1948 refugees will have died. For years now, all talk is centered on the siege, on checkpoints, on 67 lines with and without swaps, but never about the return of Palestinians. Israel has succeeded in messing up the Arabs' heads so much with other issues that the return has practically become a dead one.

    • "Meanwhile, Kerry and el- Sisi and most probably Blair are in Egypt discussing the future of the Palestinian people! "

      Just, the Arabs have been doing it to the Palestinians since 1920 and they haven't stopped. The Egyptian cease-fire plan was drafted in Israel by Blair, handed over to Sisi to adopt it and Abbas agreed to it with none of these parties having discussed a word of it with the Gazans. The West and the Gulf are all for the Egyptian plan, which is just short of a Gaza surrender and return to the status quo.

  • Arab reporters come under attack from Israelis
    • "... Air Jordan..."

      Of course; it goes without saying.

    • "Is there any word on whether or not HB intends to get involved?"

      dbroncos, not a word other than for Nasrallah's statement that they stand by the Palestinian resistance and that Gaza must not fall, which could mean nothing other than moral support. But if the massacres don't stop, it will reach a point where I think something could happen.

    • "Walid I thought Dahlan was living in UAE? Did he relocate?"

      My mistake, Sumud, I have my villains and villainous countries all mixed up. My scorecard is filled up with so many corrections and changes.

    • After having spent 5 days flying back and forth between Arab capitals on the cease-fire project, a discouraged and dejected Abbas returned to Ramallah feeling most of his friends had betrayed him and the Palestinians. He convened a meeting of his council and spoke of taking the Palestinian problem to the UN to ask for its protection of the people. he finished his meeting with Quranic verses that could be interpreted as a call to an intifada.

    • I don't know about that one, Maximus, but I know a few Arab states joined the gang-bang on Gadaffi under the guise of an Arab spring. From there, the traveling road show moved to Syria.

      Odd that leader of Hamas, Mashaal, lives in Doha as does the leader of the Fatah group that tried to oust Hamas from power in 2005, Dahlan. Odd that Dahlan was able to pull strings in Gaza to get Hamas to allow the 40 spies to leave Gaza. Twilight Zone stuff.

    • Canadian and Dutch airlines got on the no-fly-to-TA list.

    • The Jazeera/ UAE/Lieberman story is starting to come into focus with the story of the 40 thieves. Just missing an Ali Baba.

    • Hope you're right, Maximus.

    • Emir of Qatar just arrived in Saudia. Looks like big daddy is upset.

    • Kay, there has to be something big brewing. Dozens of missiles fell on TA and the airport and other than for some disruptions there didn't appear to be any major physical damage. Could be that Israel and the US are planning something really big, which could have an effect on the airport, or that they got wind of something planned by the resistance that involves the airport. Either way, it's not a good sign. There's another party in the area that can hit anything in TA with accuracy.

    • Jazeera and its owner, the State of Qatar also under attack from the UAE after it aired a report about Lieberman having visited the UAE to discuss the attacks on Gaza. He probably did. UAE is asking for an apology. This may also have something to do with Lieberman's anti Jazeera outburst that went as far as accusing Qatar of supporting ME terrorism. The Arabs are still punishing Qatar for backing Morsi.

      BTW, Air France, Lufthansa, and the Scandinavians also suspended flights to TA. Not a good sign.

  • Finally, Israel is alienating the US mainstream media
    • Kerry just held a press conference in Cairo which began with his declaration that Israel has a right to defend itself and stopped short of calling Hamas a terrorist organization. All he had to say was that the Egyptian proposal remains unchanged, which involves a cease-fire to be followed by talks between Israel and the Palestinians and a relaxation of the Rafah shutdown. A total waste of time. Both Al-Jazeera and al-Mayaden cut short their coverage because the more he spoke, the more he added insult to the Palestinians' injuries but the Saudi al Arabia covered Kerry's talk in full.

      Elsewhere, a rumble is brewing between Qatar and the UAE after the UAE accused Al-Jazeera of misrepresenting it. Al-Ahram wrote:

      "... UAE State Minister for Foreign Affairs Anwar Gargash demanded an "official apology" from Doha-based Al-Jazeera for publishing news stating that a meeting had taken place between foreign ministers of the UAE and Israel, local media said Monday.

      The website of Al-Jazeera Mubashar Misr, reported on Saturday that UAE Foreign Minister Sheikh Abdullah bin Zayed al-Nahayan had met with his Israeli counterpart Avigdor Lieberman and proposed "financing" the Israeli "agression" against Gaza "on the condition that Hamas would be completely eliminated."

      Al-Jazeera was quoting a website named "Arabi21", which in turn said it was quoting Israel's Channel 2.

      Local Emirati media reported that Channel 2 has denied it had published such information.

      On his Twitter account, Sheikh Abdullah wrote that "I have chosen not to respond" to such claims.

      Local media has also slammed a campaign by Qatari Tweeters accusing members of the Emirati Red Crescent mission in Gaza of being "spies" for Israel.

      Columnist Mohammed al-Hammadi criticised Qatar's "incitement against the United Arab Emirates" in an article on Abu Dhabi daily, Al-Ittihad.

      "Qatar will be held responsible for endangering the lives of the Emirati Red Crescent team due to its direct incitement against them," he wrote.

      Qatar is a staunch supporter of the Muslim Brotherhood, viewed by most conservative monarchies of the Gulf as a threat to their grip on power because of its grass-roots political advocacy and calls for Islamic governance."

    • For what's it's worth in the field of useless information, the Druze commander of the Golani brigade that was seriously injured in Gaza by Hamas was also injured 8 years ago in Bint Jbail, Lebanon by Hizbullah. Unlucky guy.

    • "Where are you getting this information from Walid?"

      Sumud, live coverage from al-Jazeera and al Arabia that have journalists inside Israel monitoring army press releases and Israeli media and al-Mayadeen that has journalists on the West Bank and Gaza, all of them Hebrew-speaking. Watching all 3 and CNN that's running with about 5 or 6 dead Israeli soldiers..

      Al-Jazeera offices in Gaza just took a direct hit from an Apache and it was definitely a targeted hit. Minimal damage, but the office's staff of 30 all standing on the sidewalk just in case there's another hit. Israeli press has been bitching that Al-Jazeera is broadcasting in a way that's encouraging Hamas. That, combined with Lieberman's threat could have something to do with the attack on Al-Jazeera. The station's Jerusalem bureau chief called the government to ask about the attack and was told they are aware of it and "will investigate".

    • Israeli Army now saying that a couple of days back when it lost 7 soldiers, only 6 bodies were recovered and the 7 th could be the corpse of the soldier that Hamas is claiming to have captured. Guess until Hamas proves that it has the live prisoner, Israel may be right unless Israel is baiting Hamas to say if it's got a live prisoner or a dead corpse.

    • Israeli Army admitted to having a "missing" soldier since 2 days.

    • "No one outside the cult is fooled by this, talknic."

      Sounds like a confession of sorts, hophmi, glad to see you've come clean and accepted that your Zionism is a cult.

    • Mahane, Israel has now admitted to 29 deaths, it still has 21 more to admit to. In time the number of declared dead will increase and Israel will simply say that the additional deaths were results of seriously injured soldiers having died. Usual Israeli lying.

    • Thanks, Shingo.

    • If the Lieberman gets his way, Israel would see its several trade and commercial offices in Doha shut down in retaliation. I wouldn't be surprised if Brookings got the boot too. Israel has much more to lose by pissing off the Qataris.

    • Mahane, you may be right in what you say about the longer time frame that Israel needs to ascertain deaths, but regrettably because of Israel's past record of lying about its dead, it cannot be given the benefit of the doubt.

      It brings to mind Israel's botched raid at Mansouriyeh, Lebanon in 1997 when Hizbullah was waiting for them in ambush after having hacked into drone transmissions, which resulted in the 12 servicemen of Shetayet getting killed. Israel at the time told the relatives of the 12 dead Israelis that they had died during a military exercise. The truth came out only 13 years later in 2010 when Hizbullah released videotapes of the hacked video transmissions and actual videotape of the landing and the ambush. Last we heard about Israel's lying on this matter was that the relatives of 12 killed servicemen had sued the Israeli government for having lied to them.

      Getting back to the current war on Gaza, after it will be over, you will be discovering that the number of actual Israeli deaths is closer to 50.

    • Word starting to leak out about a long term hudna with international guarantees of which the jihad group is refusing to allow any American involvement in it.

    • Maximus, it's no longer just a matter of cease-fire no matter who calls it and who accepts it. Israel's Channel 10 is sending up smoke signals that Israel may be willing to relax some crossing points. The people of Gaza don't want any relaxing but the total lifting of the siege. Tonight, word came out of Doha that Abbas and Meshaal agreed on something or other. That doesn't sound very good for the Palestinians because Abbas has been campaigning for a cease-fire to Israel's advantage. Hopefully Abbas changed his position and decided to side with Gaza.

  • Video: A beautiful brother went looking for his family in the death zone (Updated)
  • Massacre in Gaza: At least 60 killed in Shuja'iyeh, over 60,000 in UN shelters
    • Good video, seafoid, it showed me that the spokeswoman in it was Miri Eisen that I had previously identified as Miri Regev; my mistake.

    • 13 Golanis (I understood the 13th fell to friendly fire) must have really shaken up the already weak Israeli confidence. Same thing had happened to the Golanis in Bint Jbail and Maroun al-Ras. Another tank taken out this morning by the Kassam Brigade in which 5 IDF soldiers were killed. Those Golanis are not up to the image created of them. Marches by Israeli mothers to get their boys out of Gaza should be starting soon.

    • Israel this morning reported 5 of its dead in 2 separate attacks on them. Also admitted to using 6 flechette bombs. These are used to kill as many people as possible in areas of heavy concentration of people.

      "Small" phosphorus bombs being dropped on peripheral areas of Gaza this morning. These are legally being used to light the sky or to create a smoke screen.

      Shifa Hospital reporting treating people hit with DIME munitions.

    • Good news or bad news? Nasrallah has declared he stands with Hamas; does that mean just spiritually or all the way?

    • Maximus, expect Israel to now carpet-bomb a couple of neighbourhoods, just to get it out of their system. They coined the term "Dahieh Doctrine" back in 2006 and they've had ants in their pants since then to repeat it on the Palestinians. Now's their opportunity.

    • "decision had been taken"

      Is this some kind of palace revolt while Abbas and his group are away trying to remove Netanyahu's chestnuts from the fire?

    • Haaretz today:

      "Thirteen Israeli soldiers were killed on Sunday in several incidents across the Gaza Strip, bringing to a total 18 troop fatalities in less than two days.

      The IDF spokesman released a statement confirming that during fighting, 13 soldiers in the Golani Brigade were killed. Two of the soldiers were U.S. citizens, the IDF confirmed.

      "The IDF is currently completing the identification process; when the process is completed, and with the families' approval, the names of the fatalities will be released," the statement said.

      In one incident in the Tufah neighborhood north of Shujaiyeh, Golani troops fell into an ambush in which an RPG was fired at their APC, killing seven and severly wounding two. Senior IDF officers criticized the use of the aging APC, built in the 1960s. In another incident, three soldiers were killed, including two officers in the battalion. Three more soldiers were killed in another gun battle nearby.

      In another incident, an anti-tank rocket was fired at a building in Shujaiyeh where troops were staying, killing three and wounding many more.

      Six Golani soldiers were wounded in another incident, when a grenade exploded near their positions. Army officials do not know whether the grenade was thrown by army troops and wounded the soldiers afterward, or thrown at the troops by armed Palestinians. In yet another incident, several soldiers suffered from smoke inhalation.

      Five soldiers were killed on Saturday: First Sergeant Eitan Barak, 20, of Herzliya; Major Amotz Greenberg, 45 of Hod HaSharon; Sergeant Adar Bersano,20, of Nahariya; Second Lieutenant Bar Rahav, 21 of Ramat Yishai; and Sergeant Bnaya Rubel, 20 of Holon."

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      Not mentioned in the Haaretz article are the 89 IDF soldiers injured in Touffah today.

    • A few minutes ago, al-Mayadeen called Erekat in Doha to ask him for his reaction to the capture of the IDF soldier. There was silence after the journalist's question and it appeared as if the line went dead. Guess that could be interpreted as a "no comment".

      Elsewhere, celebrations under way all over the West Bank including Jerusalem and in Arab towns in Israel.

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