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BREAKING: By two votes, 333 to 331, the Presbyterian Church of the USA voted tonight not to adopt a motion to divest from 3 companies doing business in the Israeli occupation.

The church’s General Assembly voted instead to adopt a minority report that calls for investment in the occupied Palestinian territories. This proposal was approved by a 369-290 vote.

The are other overtures regarding Israel/Palestine that will be considered tomorrow, including a call to boycott Israeli settlement goods.

The Israel/Palestine Mission Network (IPMN) of the Presbyterian Church (USA) issued the following statement:

The Israel/Palestine Mission Network (IPMN) of the Presbyterian Church (USA) is disappointed to announce that today the plenary session of the 220th General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church (USA) failed to support a motion to divest church holdings from three companies (Caterpillar, Hewlett-Packard, and Motorola Solutions) that profit from non-peaceful pursuits in the occupied Palestinian territories.

“It appears that church commissioners were swayed by a fear that divestment would cause irreparable harm to Jewish-Christian relations,” said Rev. Katherine Cunningham, IPMN Vice-Moderator. “In reality, the divestment motion was supported by a broad alliance of Jews, Christians, and others who believe that nonviolent means such as divestment are an effective way to pressure the Israeli government into abiding by international law and respecting Palestinian human rights.”

In failing to pass the motion, church commissioners disregarded many years of diligent work by the Committee on Mission Responsibility Through Investment (MRTI), which recommended divestment after making repeated, fruitless attempts at constructive engagement with the companies in question, as well as an overwhelming vote in support of divestment earlier this week by the General Assembly’s Committee on Middle East and Peacemaking Issues.

Despite today’s outcome, the Israel/Palestine Mission Network of the Presbyterian Church (USA) will continue its efforts to alleviate the suffering of Palestinians and to help bring peace and justice to Israelis and Palestinians alike.

This afternoon promises a defining moment in Pittsburgh, when the US Presbyterian Church’s General Assembly votes on whether to divest from three companies that do business in the Israeli occupation. Here are updates via Twitter and we’re liveblogging the assembly, keeping you updated on developments.


(8:30 PM EST) Ellison says dialogue has hit roadblocks: Brian Ellison, the Executive Director-elect of the Covenant Network of Presbyterians, just wrapped up his remarks to the general assembly. A theme that ran through them: all three companies–HP, Caterpillar and Motorola–have not engaged in substantive dialogue with the church. Ellison was also quite clear on how the three companies’ products are used destructively by the Israeli army.

(7:47 PM EST) Committee on Middle East Peacemaking plenary resumes. Divestment will be voted on in this session. Moderator Joe Baca opens the discussion, “What we offer to this general assembly… is that relationships will not be broken, but that nations will be healed.”

(5:20 PM EST) Anti-Defamation League calls JVP involvement in divestment resolution ‘disturbing’: Jewish Voice for Peace is doing something right. The ADL attacks the organization in a blog post today, calling it “disturbing” that JVP has “aggressively lobbied” for divestment. An excerpt:

It is clear that JVP believes it has a very critical role to play in the domestic anti-Israel agenda: JVP promotes itself as representing the views of American Jews and can be seen as trying to provide cover against claims that the Presbyterian divestment initiatives are anti-Semitic. Nobody should be fooled. JVP is a fringe organization with its own anti-Israel agenda.

(4:25 PM EST) Divestment bashing bands together pro-Israel groups Earlier this week the Jewish Chronicle reported pro-Israel mainstream institutions thanked the Presbyterian Church for their anti-divestment united front, including the American Jewish Committee, the Jewish Council for Public Affairs and their BDS bashing project, the Israel Action Network:

‘Our shared goal is furthering peace, and we believe that the divestment initiative does not further peace because it is a judgment, an oversimplification, against one side in the conflict,’ Rabbi Noam Marans, director of interreligious and intergroup relations at the American Jewish Committee, told the committee. ‘That is how most American Jews understand this initiative and they hope the church will join with the many in the American Jewish community who believe that the only path to peace is a return to negotiations without preconditions, so the conflict can be resolved mutually by the parties to the conflict. That will happen not by outside judgments, such as divestment, but rather by a renewed commitment to peace by Israelis and Palestinians, and, indeed, through the historic interfaith connection and dialogue between Presbyterians and Jews which I — we all — cherish.’

Read more: A letter signed by 1,500 rabbis, representing a range of political and denominational affiliations, urging the church to reject the divestment resolutions, was sent to the PC (USA) prior to the General Assembly. Likewise, the Jewish Council for Public Affairs and the Israel Action Network amassed signatures of over 22,000 Jews to a ‘Letter of Hope,’ also urging the church to reject divestment.

Rabbi Alvin K. Berkun, a past president of the Conservative movement’s Rabbinical Assembly, and rabbi emeritus of Pittsburgh’s Tree of Life Congregation, also addressed the committee, pointing out the significance in having the Jewish community so united on any given issue.

‘I want to thank you,’ he told the Presbyterian committee members. ‘Every two years, you bring the Jewish community together.’

(3:40 PM EST) Anti-divestment rabbi upsets delegates: A rabbi advocating against the measure to divest at the Presbyterian church upset some delegates at an interfaith “greeting” this morning. While a small group of people applauded the rabbi’s remarks, a divestment activist told me that people were upset about an interfaith service being used to push an agenda. Brian Ellison, Executive Director-elect of the Covenant Network of Presbyterians, tweeted earlier today:


(3:15 PM EST) Plitnick on Americans for Peace Now: ‘Wrong’ on Divestment Mitchell Plitnick, former Director of the US Office of B’Tselem, has a strong post on why the liberal Zionist group Americans for Peace Now’s opposition to divestment is wrong. An excerpt:

The most important point that APN gets wrong here is their characterization of PC(USA)’s initiative. It specifically distinguishes between Israel and the West Bank and clearly targets corporations for doing business which helps sustain Israel’s “objectionable” policies, not for doing business with Israel. The published rationale for the resolution, which can be seen here, explains precisely why Hewlett-Packard, Motorola Solutions and Caterpillar have been chosen for divestment, and those rationales are all isolated to the occupation.

(3:10 PM EST) More from WAPO: Israel lobby keeps the church invested in occupation In addition to Rev. Gradye Parsons’ op-ed, today the Washington Post also hinted at the strong-arm rhetoric of the pro-Israel lobby in this AP wire article:

The Rev. Walt Davis, of the Israel Palestine Mission Network, a pro-Palestinian Presbyterian group, argued the denomination would have divested years ago from the companies under church’s own socially responsible investment guidelines ‘were it not for the Israel lobby.’

‘They said first that it’s anti-Semitic, then that it’s anti-Israel, then that it delegitimizes Israel. It’s none of those,’ Davis said. ‘It’’s us being true to our values.’

(2:50 PM EST) There are other relevant overtures being considered at the Presbyterian General Assembly today as well. In addition to voting on whether to divest from Caterpillar, Motorola Solutions and Hewlett-Packard, the Presbyterians will also be voting on whether to boycott settlement goods. Anna Baltzer sent a report from the Committee 15 proceedings on Tuesday:

When an overture on boycotting Ahava and Hadiklaim (two settlement products) came to the floor, the committee immediately amended it to be even stronger — to boycott *all* Israeli products coming from settlements! Then, they replaced language condemning the production and sale of settlement products to “Call[ing] upon all nations to prohibit the import of products made by enterprises in Israeli settlements on Palestinian land” and promptly passed it!

You can see the amended overture here.

(2:15 PM EST) Just alerted that the divestment discussion has been pushed back from 3:00 PM to 4:00 PM. This can push the vote to 6:30, or later after the dinner break.

(1:43 PM EST) On Tuesday The Rev. Gradye Parsons, the stated clerk of the Presbyterian General Assembly, explained the church’s divestment process, and thinking, in a guest blog post for the Washington Post:

This week, the denomination is holding its 220th General Assembly in Pittsburgh. The General Assembly will vote on a recommendation by its committee for socially responsible investment (MRTI) to divest of its stock in three companies “until they have ceased profiting from non-peaceful activities in Israel-Palestine.”

In 2006, the 217th General Assembly approved a statement urging the “…financial investments of the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.), as they pertain to Israel, Gaza, East Jerusalem, and the West Bank, be invested in only peaceful pursuits.” The assembly has identified specific practices that it deems to be roadblocks to a just peace in Israel-Palestine.

Companies are asked to “refrain from allowing their products or services to support:” violent acts by Israelis or Palestinians; construction and maintenance of settlements or Israeli-only roads in occupied Palestinian territory; the military occupation of Palestinian territory by Israel; and construction of the Separation Barrier beyond the 1967 “Green Line” to include Palestinian land.

After initially identifying five corporations involved in the above practices and six years of corporate engagement and dialogue, the MRTI has recommended divesting from three of the companies that we believe profit from non-peaceful activities – Caterpillar, Motorola Solutions, and Hewlett-Packard.

The Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.)’s investing agencies hold stock in companies that do business in Israel and Palestine, including for example Intel, Oracle, Coca-Cola, Procter & Gamble, IBM, Microsoft, McDonald’s and American Express. The MRTI’s dialogue has been focused, as the General Assembly has repeatedly directed, on companies it feels are engaged, in particular, in roadblocks to peace, profiting from non-peaceful pursuits in Israel-Palestine. Therefore, the General Assembly is not, nor has it ever been, asked to divest from all companies doing business in Israel and/or Palestine.

The recommendation to divest comes out of a strong faithfulness to the principles of socially responsible investing and a deep commitment to peace and security for both Israelis and Palestinians alike.

(1:30 PM EST) Retweet from Rae Abileah of Rabbi David Mivasair on the staunch position of liberal Zionists against any divestment from companies profiting from the occupation:


(12:03 PM EST), Israeli feminist organization comes out in support: Jewish Voice for Peace, which has been hard at work organizing around the Presbyterian divestment vote, posts this message of support from the Israeli organization Coalition of Women for Peace:

We at the Coalition of Women for Peace, Israeli citizens who are Muslim, Christian and Jewish grassroots activists, would like to thank you for considering your investments in companies that are part of the Israeli occupation industry. We express our support for the recommendation of the committee for socially responsible investment (MRTI) to divest from three companies and hope that this recommendation will be adopted by the Presbyterian Church General Assembly.

CWP began researching the economy of the occupation in an effort to uncover less known economic mechanisms and interests that sustain it. Our findings confirm the involvement of companies and investors in illegal policies, including violations of international law and specifically human rights violations.

The vote today will send a strong message against investment in the settlement industry, the security apparatus and the exploitation of labor and natural resources in the Occupied Palestinian Territories. CWP and other Israeli organizations are determined to continue our work despite tremendous pressure from the government and the right wing to stop our activities. Your vote for divestment today is an important contribution to our struggle, and to the cause of peace and a just resolution of the conflict.

JVP also has an important petition supporting divestment and encouraging Presbyterians to “vote your conscience on divestment from corporations profiting from the Occupation.”

The schedule for today, from Sydney Levy of Jewish Voice for Peace:

The report of the Middle East Peacemaking Committee–including overtures on divestment, boycotts, Iran, and Syria–will start at 3 pm EDT.
The main items will be:
15-11 ( (divestment, which passed committee 36 yes, 11 no, 1 abstain)
15-10 ( (engagement, which passed committee 36 yes, 8 no, 1 abstain)
15-02 ( (boycott settlement goods, which passed committee 36 yes, 6 no, 1 abstain)
Note that 15-11 comes also with a ‘minority report’ (against divestment, signed by 6 of the 8 Commissioners who voted no on 15-11). Commissioners will have to choose between the majority report (for divestment) and the minority report (against divestment).
Note that 15-10 was originally an anti-divestment overture which called for investment in Palestine instead of divestment. The overture is no longer against divestment (because the Committee voted to divest AND engage rather than engage BUT NOT divest), but the non-binding rationale for the overture remains as originally written (against divestment). For that reason, the overture comes with amended text at the top explaining that the will of the Committee is to be for divestment.

‘Misguided by Palestinian Christians’ Excellent coverage in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette of the strains in the committee discussion Tuesday that voted to send the resolution to the general assembly. Note the warnings from Jewish orgs of rupturing relations. Also, note the rabbi’s claim that “Palestinian Christians” are misguiding the Presybterians…

To fellow committee members, Simone Adams of Atlanta recounted crying at the foot of a cross during a visit to Terezin Concentration Camp in the Czech Republic last year. She said the visit made her question what cruelty had allowed the Holocaust to pass and how Jews could now inflict suffering on their Palestinian neighbors.

“How could someone who has been through something like that in any way or form try even in the slightest way to put somebody else through that?” she asked.

Opponents of divestment said that such a step would rupture close relations with American Jews and asked that the church continue to engage with the companies in question.

“For Jewish people, for hundreds of years economic leverage has been used against them,” said Kenneth Page of Grand Canyon Presbytery. “If we do this it will break relations.”

Rabbi Alvin Berkun, rabbi emeritus of Tree of Life Congregation in Squirrel Hill, expressed dismay that the committee had ignored outreach from Jewish congregations largely united against divestment.

“They’ve allowed themselves to be misguided by Palestinian Christians,” he said.

Rae Abileah of Jewish Voice for Peace voiced concern that pressure from Jewish leaders would convince Presbyterians not to follow their conscience in the plenary session vote, but said she was heartened that the church was taking steps to bring its investments into line with its values.

“It aligned the words of the church which opposes illegal occupation with the actions of the church,” she said.

‘Momentous stand’ A good piece at a Presbyterian publication, “Long simmering divestment issue may come to a boil at 220th GA:”

For eight years, while some other denominations have brought divestment to an up-or-down vote, the PC(USA) has pondered it and prodded companies to prevent non-peaceful uses of their wares.

Now those charged with shaping proposals on the issue are asking the 220th General Assembly to take a momentous stand — one likely to elicit passionate responses within the church, in the Middle East and among the Jewish and Palestinian communities in the United States….

Brian Ellison, a pastor from Kansas City, Mo., who chairs the MRTI, has stressed the limited nature of the divestment proposal.

We are not recommending a boycott of Israel” or any divestment step that goes beyond the three targeted companies, Ellison said in February.

Some Christian leaders have called for aggressive use of divestment against Israel. Anglican Archbishop Desmond Tutu has said divestment had a big impact on apartheid South Africa and could have a similar decisive effect in Israel-Palestine.

So far, the PC(USA)’s approach to divestment has remained cautious and incremental.

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34 Responses

  1. CloakAndDagger
    CloakAndDagger on July 5, 2012, 10:15 am

    If they pull this off, it would start the snowball rolling down the hill. It would be huge!

  2. Krauss
    Krauss on July 5, 2012, 4:20 pm

    I am holding my breath. I think there’s a tremendous amount of behind-the-scenes pressure. Even JStreet(AIPAC lite) is furious. Wasps tend to be nice people but they are often spineless and wimpy. Talking about the WASP Establishment now, not the general population.

    Still, holding my breath.

    In the meantime, I did watch some of the videos from Shimon Peres’ Presidential Conference. It was surreal, one of the panels. It was about borders, I think. You had a guy from WINEP(AIPAC’s research outfit). He was completely torn down. You could see the despair and the fear in his eyes. He basically went in the room and said, defensively “look I’m not trying to propagate anything but a 2SS is possible. He was met with stonewalled silence. Then everyone from Naftali Bennet(Bibi’s former chief of staff) to Caroline Glick went up and roused the crowd how they will never even cease one inch of the land.

    It was ironic that Israel is in a place where even AIPAC’s top people are pleading with them to at least consider peace, but even this is too much. And those AIPAC people are so scared, they don’t want to pressure Israel one bit. It never occured to me before but it just may be so that even AIPAC are afraid of the irrationality and the militarism of Israel, just that they are guilt-tripped into silence.

    For me at least, it was a watershed moment. Now even AIPAC are brushed aside. And what he proposed wasn’t very radical. He proposed retaining about 80 % of the settlers and just taking the 20 % of the most far-flung places back. And even THAT was too much for the crowd and the other panelists.

    The term ‘the 2SS is dead’ is something I’ve been saying a lot, on an abstract level but it really hit home to me, on an emotional and instinctual level, when I watched that spectacle. It’s simply impossible. There’s not even a scintilla of doubt now. It’s democracy or Apartheid now. That’s more clear than ever before. When even AIPAC are reduced into doves – and brushed aside and rejected – you know the jig is up.

    • dimadok
      dimadok on July 5, 2012, 8:03 pm

      Did you also watched Saeb Erekat speaking there?

      • seafoid
        seafoid on July 6, 2012, 2:22 am


        Krauss is watching cancer overwhelm a 64 year old he has known most of his life and you are making jokes about the lunch in the hospital. Have some respect.

    • Sumud
      Sumud on July 6, 2012, 1:21 am

      It’s democracy or Apartheid now.

      It’s apartheid until democracy. Apartheid is now.

      Kraus do you have a link to some footage of Peres’ conference?

    • seafoid
      seafoid on July 6, 2012, 5:16 am

      “it just may be so that even AIPAC are afraid of the irrationality and the militarism of Israel”

      David Tzohar said…
      The legalistic ruminations of Talia Sasson and lehavdil {WADR)judge Edmond Levi are totally irrelevant. The Divine imperative of the return of Am Yisrael to Eretz Yisrael is all that counts.

  3. ritzl
    ritzl on July 5, 2012, 8:04 pm

    There’s a tiredness in their voices. I hope it’s a “really really tried everything” tiredness, rather than a “cowed” tiredness.

    And the Palestinian rep to GA220 couldn’t get an entry visa into the US. WTF! How damning. The PCUSA should vote for divestment just on that.

  4. dbroncos
    dbroncos on July 5, 2012, 8:05 pm

    “For Jewish people, for hundreds of years economic leverage has been used against them,” said Kenneth Page of Grand Canyon Presbytery.

    Just as economic leverage has been used against all manor of nations and peoples since time immemorial.

    • seafoid
      seafoid on July 6, 2012, 3:46 am

      Caterpillar shares are going nowhere

      Divestment votes are brand toxic. The boxwallahs at Caterpillar will be watching twitter and the net to see how much traction this story has. They’ll compare the value of the Caterpillar brand to the revenue that comes from the Israeli subsidiary and they’ll consider whether Israel makes a contribution to the company’s growth or the effect it has on slowing growth. Caterpillar’s raison d’etre is eternal growth, not Erez Israel Hashlemah.

      Next year’s AGM will see this issue debated. It’s a total waste of company time.

      Caterpillar will eventually dump Israel. That is the way capitalism works. Shareholders come before settlers every time.

  5. ritzl
    ritzl on July 5, 2012, 8:14 pm

    Are the Commissioners the vote to watch?

    Thanks for this Mondo Staff. Pretty cool.

    • adamhorowitz
      adamhorowitz on July 5, 2012, 8:31 pm

      Yes, it is the commissioner vote that counts. The first vote is an advisory vote from constituencies that aren’t necessarily reflected in church leadership (ie youth).

  6. ritzl
    ritzl on July 5, 2012, 8:21 pm

    Ellison is from Kansas. The heartland is becoming aware.

    A very stepped and on-point presentation.

    • seafoid
      seafoid on July 6, 2012, 2:25 am

      “The heartland is becoming aware”

      It’s going to start coming up in presidential election campaigns.
      The universities will become no go areas for the bots..
      When people lose their fear systems break down.

  7. Scott
    Scott on July 5, 2012, 10:10 pm

    They need to get spit at more in Jerusalem.

  8. talknic
    talknic on July 5, 2012, 10:26 pm

    Oh well, at least its had a profile in the limelight. drip drip

    • CloakAndDagger
      CloakAndDagger on July 5, 2012, 10:39 pm

      Oh this was much more than drip drip – only two votes short. The walls are about to fall.

      • ritzl
        ritzl on July 5, 2012, 10:50 pm

        Agree C&D, and with a very factual, rational, public debate that a lot of these folks are going to take back home.

      • seafoid
        seafoid on July 6, 2012, 2:18 am

        And it’s happening in the open where the bots are not comfortable at all. Michael
        Oren must be on tranquillisers.

        Israel is being attacked in broad daylight. The nukes are useless.

  9. dbroncos
    dbroncos on July 5, 2012, 10:36 pm

    Zionists win again. Resentment builds…

    • CloakAndDagger
      CloakAndDagger on July 5, 2012, 10:56 pm

      They won this battle – barely. They just lost the war.

    • American
      American on July 5, 2012, 11:30 pm

      I hope there is report on how many ‘dual citizens” in Israel vote in the US election.
      I think headlines saying Mitt won by 100,000 or so votes and the vote tally showed Americans voted mostly for Obama and the Israeli vote was responsible for electing for Mitt would be just what we need.
      Wouldn’t it be great for Americans to see that a foreign country elected their President?
      Yep, I think that would cause some BDS.

      Mitt who? Republican Jewish operatives Ari Fleischer and Matt Brooks headed to Israel

      By Ami Eden · July 4, 2012

      Forget the old Jews in Palm Beach who voted for Pat Buchanan by accident. This year it could be absentee ballots from Israel that make the difference.

      At least that’s what the Republican Jewish Coalition is thinking… its executive director, Matt Brooks, and big-name cheerleader, former White House press secretary Ari Fleischer, will be in Israel next week to sign up expats to vote:

      “If you look at the numbers, there is a significant opportunity out there for the Republicans to mine a number of votes,” Brooks said, noting that Americans in Israel tend to favor Mitt Romney, the GOP presidential candidate, over President Obama, in contrast to United States, where Jews tend to favor Democrats. “If this election is going to be as close as people think it is, and with the support Romney is getting in Israel, being able to turn out American voters, especially from battleground states, could be critical.”

      An RJC release said the tour, from July 9-13 “will include media events, town hall meetings with U.S. citizens living abroad, and meetings with leading bloggers and social media activists on Facebook, Twitter, and other platforms who are expert in communicating directly with potential voters.”

      “It’s a long flight, but when you think about Israel being home to 150,000 American voters, it’s also the equivalent of visiting Dayton, Ohio or Ft. Lauderdale, Fla. to get out the message,” Fleischer said in the statement. “In this election, every vote is going to be important.”

    • seafoid
      seafoid on July 6, 2012, 1:32 am

      333 to 331 is not winning. A 333 to 331 vote in favour of a CEO’s pay means the CEO has to resign.

      333 to 331 means the argument has been lost.

      Grassroots action is going to bring Israel down. People are waking up to the lies and the cruelty. the Governments will eventualy have no choice but to follow the people.

      • CloakAndDagger
        CloakAndDagger on July 6, 2012, 10:28 am

        Yes agreed. And 2 abstained – out of fear? Add those on the plus column if they overcome their fear and its a dead heat.

  10. Basilio
    Basilio on July 5, 2012, 10:51 pm

    Well, I wasn’t expecting divestment, so the fact that they came close to divestment was positive. I understand that Caterpillar doesn’t make Israel do what it’s doing, but it should not have its products used to ethnic cleanse the Palestinians. Too many people feel they don’t want to divest because they’re dealing with a Jewish state, and they think it would offend too many Jews. Well, not all Jews are the same and are of one mind just like the Muslim state of Sudan is so different than the one in the United Arab Emirates or Jordan. People need to take a stronger stand against the occupation. I hope the church will do that.

  11. seafoid
    seafoid on July 6, 2012, 3:35 am

    Rev Walt Davis nails it

    “‘They said first that it’s anti-Semitic, then that it’s anti-Israel, then that it delegitimizes Israel. It’s none of those,’ Davis said. ‘It’’s us being true to our values.”‘

    The devil is never in the detail. The devil is always in the design. Zionism is not built on values.

  12. Ellen
    Ellen on July 6, 2012, 3:45 am

    But the Church DID vote for a policy of investment in support of peace in Israel and the Palestinian territories, which passed 369-290 with eight abstentions.

    Wouldn’t the execution of that policy at least exclude any investment that aids in any way the ongoing occupation and repression of a people. This amounts to disinvestment.

    As for the nefarious and disengenous argument against supporting the Church’s initiative because it “could” damage relationships between the Church and Jews/Israel? Isn’t the occupation and associated crimes already doing that? And isn’t that the same logic of say….we should not say bad things or prosecute crimes of XYZ because it will ruin relationships and standing. People will not like them anymore!

    Think the Catholic Church, Penn State. It was exactly that kind of twisted and immoral thinking that……

  13. Eva Smagacz
    Eva Smagacz on July 6, 2012, 4:14 am

    Very good reporting from New York Times:
    Surprisingly factual and even handed, without tendentious headline AND appearing in a paper version.
    Boycott and Divestment is entering the mainstream. It takes 10 percent of people in the population to be on board for the subject to enter “everybody knows” category.

  14. RoHa
    RoHa on July 6, 2012, 5:43 am

    “a fear that divestment would cause irreparable harm to Jewish-Christian relations”

    1. If maintaining Jewish-Christian relations means any sort of support for Israel, then maintaining Jewish-Christian relations means support for evil. Do the Prebs really want to support evil in order to be friendly with Jews?

    2. What value do good Jewish-Christian relations have, anyway?

  15. seafoid
    seafoid on July 6, 2012, 8:15 am

    “If maintaining Jewish-Christian relations means any sort of support for Israel, then maintaining Jewish-Christian relations means support for evil”

    That is the money shot

  16. Kathleen
    Kathleen on July 6, 2012, 10:03 am

    As a young Methodist woman said when they rolled over to the I lobby pressure. Let’s stop hiding behind “pretty words” 2 votes. The Presbyterians roll over to apartheid. Too bad

    Thanks Mondo team for covering.

    Keep pushing folks..

    • seafoid
      seafoid on July 6, 2012, 11:29 am

      They didn’t really roll over, Kathleen. Some people still think “the Jews wouldn’t do that”. The next year will be chock full of atrocities and cruelty and when the summer comes around again the vote will be won.

      Keep up the good work.

  17. chinese box
    chinese box on July 6, 2012, 10:40 am

    This sucks, but at least it only lost by two votes (after extensive lobbying, apparently). Sooner or later BDS will have a victory.

  18. American
    American on July 6, 2012, 10:59 am

    This is so Orwellian I can’t get over it.
    Disinvesting from companies that sell equipment to Israel for bulldozing people and destroying their homes in a Illegal Occupation…is going to offend The Jews.
    So what does this say to the world about the Jews?
    What is the world suppose to think now about the Jews?
    That no crime or immorality in the world can be condemned if it’s the Jews doing it?
    Do the people using the offend the Jews tactic have the slightest idea what they are saying really means and what they are setting up The Jews for? That to bring Israel and it’s enablers to account the world is going have to bust thru the Jews.
    Totally FUBAR.

  19. CloakAndDagger
    CloakAndDagger on July 6, 2012, 1:20 pm

    A meaningless observation: 333 against + 331 for + 2 abstain = 666

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