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Blumenthal talks ‘Goliath: Life and Loathing in Greater Israel’ on Democracy Now!

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Max Blumenthal’s new book Goliath: Life and Loathing in Greater Israel came out earlier this week, and he was on Democracy Now! this morning to discuss the four years of reporting from Israel/Palestine that went into the book.

Blumenthal explains how the occupation is moving back over the green line and how racism is a unifying force in Israeli society. Blumenthal says, “I was most surprised at the banality of the racism and violence that I witnessed and how it’s so widely tolerated because it’s so common . . . And I’m most surprised that this it hasn’t made its way to the American public … that’s why I set out to do this endeavour, this journalistic endeavor, to paint this intimate portrait of Israeli society for Americans who don’t see what it really is.”

If you’re in Philadelphia you can see Blumenthal speak about his book with Ian Lustick at the University of Pennsylvania on October 17.

Update: A second part of Blumenthal’s interview was just posted by Democracy Now!

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  1. amigo on October 4, 2013, 12:39 pm


    If this was shown to dick and Jane , The zionist entity would not last p—–g time.

    This book is a must have.It gets right inside the nub of the problem.Zionist racism and criminality.

    Thanks you Mr Blumenthal.

    • ivri on October 4, 2013, 3:22 pm

      ‘If it was shown to Dick and Jane”
      Dick and Jane are busy watching how minorities all around the region are persecuted in an abhorrent manner and they also see the unimaginable cruelty in Syria and beforehand Iraq and turmoil elsewhere. The inevitable result of that is that all conflicts that involve Arabs are now seen by the American public in a different light – a category of its own.

      • annie on October 4, 2013, 3:48 pm

        lol, did you listen to pt 2 of the interview? your response fits perfectly w/the explanation max gave for how the conflicts in the region serve netanyahu interests and how he uses them for israel hasbara. thanks for such a clear example.

      • ivri on October 4, 2013, 4:34 pm

        Annie: It may also serve Israeli Hasbara, but is that not a real contradiction – it may still be valid on its own. My feeling is that what has been going on for so long in the region as well as outside it (e.g. prominently Sep 11) is dominating the mindset of the American public as far as the region goes. This does not vindicate unsavory opinions by some Israelis (after 65 years of quite dreadful conflict it is not entirely surprising that it happens) but it makes that much less relevant in the eyes of people who are already themselves wary about the Arab scene

      • annie on October 5, 2013, 12:04 am

        My feeling is that what has been going on for so long in the region as well as outside it (e.g. prominently Sep 11) is dominating the mindset of the American public

        well that’s certainly the hope. it sounds like something thought up out of a think tank. seamlessly actually. neat lil package w/bow.

        but, i think it’s israel seen in a different light lately. hypocritical

      • Kathleen on October 5, 2013, 10:49 am

        “Israel seen in a different light lately” For decades little to no information got out about what was really going on in the Israeli Palestinian conflict. For those of us who had become aware of the serious human rights abuses and the constant breaking of international laws and UN resolutions through the efforts and speaking out of Vanessa Redgrave, Edward Said, Carter later Art Gish, Fiinkelstein others who were willing to call human rights abuses human rights abuses some took to the halls of congress, streets etc over these issues. Millions were aware and chose to stay silent for different reasons. Millions were not aware due to the gatekeepers in the U.S. MSM’s serious and effective gate keeping. The internet opened up the issue with a flood of relevant and factual information. Now that we have some sites completely dedicated to exposing the facts on the ground like Mondoweiss, the BDS movement etc more and more people are being exposed to those facts.

      • Ron Edwards on October 5, 2013, 11:39 am

        I was interested in your first post, but this one went off the rails. It’s full of wonk BS alert terms, like “the region.” This is State Dept speak abetting the belief that anywhere people have names starting with “al-” are somehow one big thing in a single location. It’s a weird mirror of their long-held and still-persistent terror of Nasserism.

        I thought that perhaps you were articulating that view in part to critique it, but then all those other phrasings crowded in: “unsavory” (instead of say, evil and intolerable), “some Israelis” (you mean it’s entire power structure, infrastructure, and consistent international relations?), and the exculpatory parenthesis reeking of villa-in-the-jungle.

        Do Americans think of some mash-up of Arab/Muslim/terrorist in an uncritical way? Yes, partly due to baked-in, Cold War tropes (themselves lifted from the Brit version of the Crusades), and partly due to dedicated propaganda. Your post makes sense to me to that point. Regarding any and all of the implications of the terms you used in that second post, I do not. It’s hard to tell whether that means I’m disagreeing with *you,* because I don’t know if your use of the word “feel” is about Americans’ views (and you disagree) or if you are expressing your own feelings in those sentences.

    • Justpassingby on October 4, 2013, 3:57 pm

      Exactly or just take this clip by Max Blumenthal when he approach pro-israel extremists on the street!

      Feeling the Hate in New York

      If Dick and Jane only knew..

  2. David Doppler on October 4, 2013, 12:43 pm

    Great interview, Max. And great publicity for your book, and negative publicity for the NYTimes and its taboos. The Times that put the face of the racist South on its front page with those grinning, tobacco-chewing deputies enjoying their day in court – will it someday print images of Israeli racists, similarly smug in their cruel narrow-mindedness? Will it take a stand against racism and inhumanity? It will take that and more and many years to unseat such a corrupt but pervasive culture.

  3. Obsidian on October 4, 2013, 1:08 pm

    Max. This generation of internet addicts have the attention span of gnats.

    No one is going to buy your book, much less read it.

    • talknic on October 4, 2013, 2:07 pm

      @ Obsidian “No one is going to buy your book, much less read it”

      Max’s last book sold well over a million copies… are you published much yourself?

    • Cliff on October 4, 2013, 2:41 pm

      Whatever you say Jewish colonist.

      Max earns a living speaking truth to power. You are a fake and a thief.

    • seafoid on October 4, 2013, 2:56 pm

      Dream on, habibi. Racism hasn’t trended on twitter since 1962. Jewish racism has all the sex appeal of athlete’s foot.

    • Woody Tanaka on October 4, 2013, 3:03 pm

      “No one is going to buy your book, much less read it.”

      For that comment, I’m going to go buy it today. I was going to wait, but just to spite you, zio, I’m buying it now.

    • amigo on October 4, 2013, 3:06 pm

      “No one is going to buy your book, much less read it.”obsidious

      I intend to buy 10 and gladly give away for free.

      A way of funding the end of zionism.Now, that has to be a very profitable investment.

      Bet you a “Gnats” breakfast you are too cowardly to read it.

    • piotr on October 4, 2013, 3:48 pm

      Obsidian, do not worry. For pea-brains with nano-second attention span we have a helpful synopsis here. I think that we already have seen many bits reported in the book in nice short passages.

      That said, I find it indeed rather strange that “Goliath” has no e-book edition. As books are edited as computer files, converting to e-book format is not hard, while many younger people refuse to buy books on paper. Nevertheless, many of them read and the trade in e-books is quite brisk. One addictive feature is that you get a book after a single click, very good for a series where a volume ends with a cliff-hanger.

      • Abierno on October 4, 2013, 4:06 pm

        A kindle edition exists on amazon

      • piotr on October 4, 2013, 4:12 pm

        Correction: NOOK Book $27.99 This is not your old good parchment anymore.

        Ha! Max is ahead of the curve indeed. This is what you can buy as an e-book for “Republican Gomorrha” for modest $6.99:

        This ebook consists of a summary of the ideas, viewpoints and facts presented by Max Blumenthal in his book “Republican Gomorrah: Inside the Movement that Shattered the Party”. This summary offers a concise overview of the entire book in less than 30 minutes reading time. However this work does not replace in any case Max Blumenthal’s book.

      • lysias on October 4, 2013, 6:44 pm

        I just bought the Kindle version.

    • Justpassingby on October 4, 2013, 3:52 pm

      Thanks, now I will definately buy the book.

    • marc b. on October 4, 2013, 4:54 pm

      put in an order for a copy for my local library. ‘way to go obsidious!’ *high five*

    • Ellen on October 6, 2013, 4:48 pm

      Obsidian, No one is going to buy your book, much less read it. Blumenthal’s book just reached the No. 1 best seller in it’s category (society, social violence) and the first print hardback editions are sold out.

      It is doing so well, an audio edition has just been released. At this rate it has a very fair shot at reaching the NY Times best seller list.

  4. pabelmont on October 4, 2013, 1:21 pm

    Happily, saying that Israeli Jewish society is violently racist (which I believe to be true) is not antisemitic even if saying that Jewish society as a whole is violently racist (which I do not believe to be true) might be antisemitic (even if true !!).

    The problem is getting American Jews comfortable enough with serious criticism of Israel to LISTEN TO and, later, to AGREE WITH, Blumenthal’s thesis. What would be especially helpful would be an ORGANIZED CABAL OF JEWISH NOTABLES (such as Fein, Beinart, Phil, Avishai, and many Israelis) who would [1] agree with the diagnosis [2] make a prognosis of the disease untreated and [3] propose a remedy. Roughly, say, “Israel is going down the tubes and American Jewry and others should act while there is still something of value in Israel (as many of them would see it) to be saved.”

    • lysias on October 4, 2013, 6:46 pm

      I think the argument to make to them is that the Jews of Israel still have time to face no worse a fate than that of the whites of South Africa, if they make a deal in time.

      If they don’t, they will share the fate of the pieds noirs European settlers in Algeria.

  5. Woody Tanaka on October 4, 2013, 1:58 pm


    Obama’s become the “Bibi sitter.” LOL!!

  6. Kathleen on October 4, 2013, 2:09 pm

    Go Max. Great interview. You can pack a lot of important information in to such a short time in such a clear, concrete way. But the racism that Max talks about being common in Israeli society is not new Edward Said wrote about this racismin clear concrete ways in his books and where ever he was lined up to speak decades agi. This common racism in Israeli society is not a new phenomena. But it is also so great to witness relatively new and extremely effective participation in this growing awareness.

    As Max pointed out this information is not in the New York Times not on so called liberal outlets like Rachel Maddow or Al Sharptons etc programs. But with Max,s efforts, Mondoweiss, Democracy Now, many other blogs and all of the decades long and concerted efforts or Edward Said, Ilan Pappe, Carter, CPT members like Art Gish and now for the last five or so years Max Blumenthal the truth keeps making cracks in that massive wall of silence.

    Last night here in Boulder went and heard the Palestinian rap group Dam on Univ of Colorado’s campus. They were amazing and the footage of the racism and violence towards Palestinians that they had behind them as they rapped was so effective.

    Wish Medea Benajman and the Code Pink crew would have them to the next Move over Aipac conference and protest.

    Great interview Max…will be reading your book. You are doing such amazing and brutally honest reporting with important images and interviews

    • piotr on October 4, 2013, 4:06 pm

      I think that between 200 and 100 years ago racism was a norm in “Western” thinking, with few non-racist oddballs here and there. However, in the last 50 years in most societies racism is receding. And Israel is a notable exception here. Defenders cite Zimbabwe where Shona majority is treating Ndebele quite shabbily, and surely one could compile a list of countries with virulent ethnic conflicts and shabby treatment of people, but surely enough we do not extol Zimbabwe as our “most valuable ally”.

      I am wondering if the support for Israel is linked with the fact that while racism is kind of forbidden in USA (open expression easily leads to severe troubles), the support of Israel, warts and all (especially the warts!) is a way to engage in racism in a safe, vicarious fashion.

      • Kathleen on October 4, 2013, 6:54 pm

        piotr this is one of the big reasons that the U.S. should be dividing a clear line between the racism we allegedly will not accept in our own society yet support racism that Israel practices and essentially by economically, politically supporting what they do. And we do practice this same kind of racism by turning Iraqi’s and others into easily dismissed collateral damage via our unnecessary wars and other brutality (torture, drones) It is this massive moral contradiction that people around the world are witness to and object to. And one of the big reasons for the hate directed towards the U.S.

      • Bandolero on October 4, 2013, 11:14 pm


        I feel like I heard that argument already a couple of years before, but then it was pronounced a bit more forceful:

        Anti-Semitism was primarily – you need not mistake or deny other moments that resonate more or less – religious hatred, and the emancipation of the Jews and their intrusion into economic life also made the economic side of Jew-hatred emerge much stronger. But the anti-Semitism of today is racial hatred! And that means a complete re-evaluation and a huge uptrend. Religious and economic anti-Semitism are more superficial nature, they are the nature and the perception of action, not the person. The racial anti-Semitism, however, is against the human person itself. It turned a forceful opposition, in which both sides seek to convince by arguments , into ​​an anti-Semitism of contempt of inferior Jews and preaches complete separation from him in all areas of culture and social life. With what success is known! If the “racial” moment has acquired a meaning in which nothing counts of everything else, merits, virtues, striving and disposition, if the Jew is outlawed, if you want to depress him into a pariah position, so it is a success, the national belief, the chauvinistic racial madness of our times, has won in diligent work.

        And this chauvinist, national racist madness is the theoretical basis, the spiritual soil of Zionism! That’s where it borrowed the specific features of it’s being and it’s effectiveness! Even the utterance of this undeniable and undisputed fact contains the most damning criticism of this pseudo messianic movement. With all clarity the consequences must be imagined of what it must mean for the nature and manifestations of Zionism that it grew up on the same marsh soil as the racial anti-Semitism, this scourge, which we Jews are suffering under so horrible. And it’s always the same water, may it now be called Aryan anti-Semitic, or may it now be colored Jewish-national that comes from the same poisoned wells, and no staining of the world can make it a healthy drink.

        If you stand on the position that the national hate speech and racial anti-Semitism is a crime against culture – and who would not – you must also condemn it’s brother in Jewish garb, the national Zionism, because it’s results will be as pernicious as those.

        Source: Schriften zur Aufklärung über den Zionismus, N° 2 „Der Zionismus, seine Theorien, Aussichten und Wirkungen“, Herausgegeben vom Antizionistischen Komitee Berlin 1913, a booklet which had no author named, but was written by Felix Goldmann, a prominent liberal German rabbi and fighter against racism and anti-Semitism. (Translation from German my own)

    • seafoid on October 4, 2013, 5:35 pm

      I think it’s very interesting that Blumenthal followed up his book on the GOP with a book on Zionism. They both operate in parallel universes to reality. There is no GOP global climate meltdown and there are no human rights in Zionism. And money drives the 2 ideologies. The truth is like garlic to a vampire. Rigid ideological discipline. Only sociopathic bastards rise to the top and so on.

    • Ron Edwards on October 4, 2013, 5:49 pm

      Dam is fantastic music.

    • lysias on October 4, 2013, 6:54 pm

      It’s not just the truth about Israel that they hide. I’m just now reading Into the Nightmare: My Search for the Killers of President John F. Kennedy and Officer J. D. Tippit, by film historian Joseph McBride. McBride, who comes from a family of journalists and who himself started out as a journalist, complains about how the corporate media have hidden the truth about the JFK assassination, and continue to do so, even as we approach the 50th anniversary of that awful event.

  7. Cliff on October 4, 2013, 2:46 pm

    Max is what Chomsky, referring to a young Finkelstein, would call – an honest intellectual.

    No wonder the Zio-cultists hate him so much.

    • Justpassingby on October 4, 2013, 3:54 pm

      Exactly what I think of Max, a young Finkelstein!

      Intellectual+great sense of dry humor!

  8. dbroncos on October 4, 2013, 3:05 pm

    Great interview! Amy Goodman and Juan Gonzalez seem taken aback by Blumenthal’s confident, unapologetic candor. When he finishes answering their questions and looks back at them they seem momentarily mesmerized and tongue tied by his commentary – obviously they’re more accostomed to hearing a different sort of language used to describe Isreal. Way to go Max! and good for Goodman and Gonzalez for having him on.

    • seafoid on October 4, 2013, 4:01 pm

      Blumenthal knows Israel quite well and he dispenses with the notion of balance. There is no point in mentioning the west quds gay pride parade to balance the racism because racism is a fairly ugly pig and lipstick would be superfluous. There was a haaretz editorial the other day that hoped that Israel would do the decent thing and call off the plans for a national park on the edge of the ej suburb of issawiya . The idea is to deny the palestinians the right to use their own land. I don’t know why ha’aretz editorial writers bother. Israel decided on nihilism a very long time. [email protected]#$ what the goys think.

      Yesha was built thus. Put the best brains on the project, unlimited budgets, remould the legal system, build the education system around it. Legalise brutality and theft, train the kids to defend the project. Humans can’t work in such a system without internalising its dystopian values. The wonder is that so many Americans still believe in israel.

      Blumenthal is just a perceptive tourist from planet reality visiting the jewish disneyland.

    • Philip Munger on October 5, 2013, 12:56 am

      I didn’t get that from the interview, but I’ll watch it again. Max has been on DN before, more than once. More like they realize that theirs is one of the first interviews of Max, as his book tour begins, and they were pausing a bit long, seeking to get the next question both clear, and taking advantage of what Max was saying.

      I closely watched media response to Max’s Republican Gomorrah, when he toured that, in the fall of 2009. American media finds it almost impossible to confront fundamentalist ideologies, unless they are based on some element of Islam. Max’s first book showed how deeply fundamentalist Christians with anti-democratic ideas have embedded into GOP structures. Interviewers accused him of making too much about a small fringe, even as their stations (in 2009) covered Tea Party conventions attended by less people than one finds at PTA meetings.

      The media will have a more difficult time digesting Goliath. I’m reading it now. It is jam-packed with detail, sometimes rich with Max’s wit. Many very short chapters, with each glimpsing at another facet of how truly weird or worse Israel has always been, yet with a trajectory showing how quickly it is all going over several cliffs – ethical, religious, moral, economic, and so on.

      I wrote a diary about this same DN segment today for firedoglake.

      I’ll be hosting Max at a firedoglake Book Salon, on November 2nd. Come join us.

  9. Shingo on October 4, 2013, 6:56 pm

    I can’t wait for MY1 to chime in here and tell us how none of the people he knows in Israel agree with any of these positions outlines in the polls cited by Max.

    • MahaneYehude1 on October 5, 2013, 2:48 am


      I know at least one Palestinian that disagrees with one of Blumenthal’s arguments:

      Max Blumenthal (3:40)
      “…Majority of Jewish Israeli are against massive pull-out….”

      President M. Abbas Abu-Mazen (UNGA):
      “I am confident that the Israeli people want peace, and that its majority supports a two-State solution.”

      Shingo, I remember that in the 1970’s the majority of Jewish Israelis were against Israeli withdrawal from the Sinai desert. When President Saddat of Egypt visited Israel as part of his peace mission, those Israelis went out to the streets, waving the flags of Israel and Egypt and sang “Peace, Peace”. Will we see them do it again with Israel and Palestine flags? Let it be…

  10. bintbiba on October 4, 2013, 7:07 pm

    ….buying the book now!

    • Shingo on October 4, 2013, 7:16 pm

      You’re a braver man than I am BintBiba.

      Having just watched this interview with Max, I don’t know how I could get through it without becoming ill.

      • Cliff on October 5, 2013, 12:37 am

        Same here.

        I bought it anyway to show support and because Max’s previous book, Republican Gomorrah, was excellent.

        He’s just a good writer.

        But I feel like I know this issue inside/out and it’s tough to read even more stuff about how the Palestinians are getting screwed over.

      • Kathleen on October 5, 2013, 11:02 am

        “but I feel like I know this issue inside/out” Yes so many of us here do. For decades many of us have been meeting with congressional members,lobbying, putting together panel discussions etc. But the huge difference over the last five or so years is so many more Jewish individuals have finally gotten involved with this issue. Medea Benjaman, Phil, Naomi Klein, Max, Beinart. This is the big change and an incredible one at that

  11. Ludwig on October 4, 2013, 8:23 pm

    As long as he is staying in Israel and supporting the economy it’s fine with me.

  12. Rusty Pipes on October 4, 2013, 8:31 pm

    The local independent liberal-Zionist bookstore did not carry the Mearshimer/Walt or Jimmy Carter books when they were published. I’ll have to check there to see whether they are stocking this latest one by Blumenthal. After Max’s interview on Democracy Now, I doubt I’ll be the first person to enquire today.

    • Kathleen on October 5, 2013, 10:56 am

      “liberal Zionist” So absurd

      Thanks for pointing this out. Let us know if they are going to carry Max’s book

      I’ll be inquiring at the Boulder Book Store. Will make a request that they have him as a guest speaker. They have at least 10 speakers a month. Hope other folks will ask their local bookstores to have Max come speak. Will be interesting to hear responses.

  13. bilal a on October 5, 2013, 12:50 am

    Israeli and American cultural degeneration in a time of terrorist threats and global war is perhaps somewhat in line with human history, if not human ethics, however how much of the war threat was actually simulated, eg. Terror leader al Alwaki was apparently a US asset prior to his departure to Yemen, a chronic customer of street prostitutes, hardly the MO of a religious cleric looking to seek favor with divinity through calls to Jihad, but what if those calls were made on behalf of a less heavenly power? This clearly is in sync with the federal framing of Dr. al timimi, as Jonathan Turley is arguing:

    Feds cagey on early Anwar Al-Awlaki ties

    FBI trailed Al-Awlaki to hookers, NPR, Bertucci’s

    Defense in treason case seeks info on al-Awlaki

  14. ziusudra on October 5, 2013, 3:55 am

    Very frank, informative & alarming.
    Thanks & kudos to Mr. Max Blumenthal,
    who has a beautiful name to suit his personage:
    Maximum Flower Valley.

  15. on October 5, 2013, 6:37 am

    Every modern democratic country has innumerable negative aspects in the ways it manages its problems. One can write a book on every such aspect of every country.

    Israel is even more complicated. Very young democracy, founded by comers from East Europe and Arab countries – not exactly perfect school for how democracies function. An almost non stop military confrontations with neighbors (never mind at the moment by whose fault). Large groups of refugees coming from very different cultures, mixing with the older existing population, competing for jobs, budgets… Probbaly like New York in 20ties of the last century.

    And then recent suicide bombing and tremendous disappointments with the Oslo process. Can you imagine taking polls in England about their attitude towards Germans say couple of years after WW2? And declaring this racism. That is in a nutshell what Blumenthal is doing. This is so incredibly superficial. On the same level as his earlier remarks that in Ramallah market he can see mostly Israeli products. This is economy, stupid.

    But it is also total dishonesty of his like the story (also repeated in another report of tovarisch Weiss) of Bedouin shabby “favelas” in Negev. Sure this is a huge problem which government treated poorly. Typical cases which democracies don’t know what to do. But on the social and economic level! By no means ethnic or racism. So – be honest and explain all the issues involved. And the difficulties of the solution. And impossibility to continue. And the blunders of government bodies. It is disgusting what Blumenthal et al are doing in this case.

    • Shingo on October 5, 2013, 9:30 am

      Every modern democratic country has innumerable negative aspects in the ways it manages its problems.

      Every one of them, except Israel, rejects apartheid, ethnic cleansing, land theft and home demolitions are legitimate.

      Israel is not complicated, it’s just a pariah state. Defenders of Apartheid South Africa used to say it was complicated, until it wasn’t.

      And the non stop ethnic cleansing, land theft, home demolitions and mass murder for 65 years. Can you imagine taking polls in Nazi Germany about their attitude towards Jews during WW2? That is in a nutshell what Blumenthal is doing and more credit to him, because that was racism and racism is the cornerstone of Israel today.

      The stop military confrontations with neighbors are a result of Israel’s land theft and expansionism.

      Israel is a rogue, apartheid, racist, fascist state not because it needs to be, but because it chooses to be.

      It is disgusting what Blumenthal is having to report. What Blumenthal is doing is service to humanity and deserves to he honored.

    • Bumblebye on October 5, 2013, 9:47 am

      Israel is an ETHnocracy, not a DEMocracy, as you state, set up by a bunch of foreigners for themselves – not to include the indigenous, most of whom they ethnically cleansed. It’s also an ethnocracy because it enshrines in law favoritism to the invader group, and enshrines in law discrimination against the remains of the indigenous within the internationally accepted borders. Since ’67 it shamelessly extends representation to the invader group illegally settling in the stolen lands, while denying it outright to the majority indigenous. Where fault lies is not an irrelevance, its supremely important. It is at your feet, and the feet of your family, and your neighbors- 100%. You elect the people who carry out the wishes of you and your invading ethnic group, your government is made up of ethnic supremacists who care not a whit for human rights or indeed for the opinion of the rest of the world as you gleefully humiliate, rob, steal, maim and kill in the name of your continuously invading ethnic group.

    • Woody Tanaka on October 5, 2013, 10:02 am


      You sound just like one of the racists during the Jim Crow era in the south. “It’s complex and those Jews and carpetbaggers from the north don’t understand our way of life. The problem isn’t the way we treat our [n-word deletd] btt with the people complaining about it.”

    • amigo on October 5, 2013, 10:10 am

      “Very young democracy, ” levit

      Do please pull the other leg.

    • Bumblebye on October 5, 2013, 10:33 am

      To call out Max on “dishonesty” over the Negev villages is is beyond bass ackwards! Most of these a) are on land owned by their populations, tho the Israeli state has decided to ignore or dispossess them, and b) existed before ’48. For the seven decades of the existence of your ugly racist state, they have been denied connection to water and power, they have been denied building permits for infrastructure such as roads, schools, clinics, as well as for their homes, which are then deemed illegal by your racist state, which you support, whose racist governments you elect.

    • eljay on October 5, 2013, 10:52 am

      >> Israel is even more complicated. Very young democracy, founded by comers from East Europe and Arab countries …

      It’s even more complicated than that. Israel was founded by supremacist Jews who employed terrorism and ethnic cleansing to establish an oppressive, colonialist, expansionist and supremacist “Jewish State” in Palestine. The establishment of this supremacist state was followed by a 60+ years, ON-GOING and offensive (i.e., not defensive) campaign of aggression, oppression, theft, colonization, destruction, torture and murder.

      >> … – not exactly perfect school for how democracies function.

      No kidding.

      >> An almost non stop military confrontations with neighbors (never mind at the moment by whose fault).

      That is a tremendously amusing comment.

      Rapist: Ever since I chained that woman up in by basement, it’s been non-stop confrontations! Never mind at the moment by whose fault…

    • Ron Edwards on October 5, 2013, 11:46 am

      “It’s complicated!!” Except, it is not complicated.

    • Bumblebye on October 5, 2013, 11:47 am

      IOW, the deliberately racist policies of the invader’s government are MEANT to have an impact and cause huge problems (favelas?!) on the ground, and to INCREASE the invader population’s racism, as well as causing severe hardship at the “social and economic level” to the indigenous population.

    • Abierno on October 5, 2013, 2:12 pm

      The Prawer plan to ethnically cleanse the Bedouins from their property in order to
      build jewish only villages is “poor treatment?” But Israel has always respected documented property rights of the non jewish muslims, christians, druze, bedouin?
      Israel is/has not sought to ehnically cleanse Jerusalem, Judea, Samaria? There is only one set of laws/courts throughout Israel, the occupied territories, the settlements? As a card carrying Druid, with “lefty” tendencies seeking to reach my teaching position in Ramallah, I can pass through Ben Gurion with the same ease as the jewish family who sat next to me on the flight? Or do all young democracies have these problems? Do any democracies – young or old have these problems?
      Do they conduct their foregn policy with assassinations? nuclear blackmail? Allude
      to massacres of occupied, confined muslims as mowing the grass? Please let me know.

  16. seafoid on October 5, 2013, 7:08 am

    I was listening to Kinky Friedman’s song ” they ain’t makin’ Jews like Jesus anymore ” and there is one very interesting line in it

    “He says, “I ain’t a racist but Aristitle Onassis is one Greek we don’t need
    And them niggers, Jews and Sigma Nus, all they ever do is breed.
    And wops ‘n micks ‘n slopes ‘n spics ‘n spooks are on my list
    And there’s one little heeb from the heart of Texas — is there anyone I missed?”

    Well, I hits him with everything I had right square between the eyes.
    I says, “I’m gonna gitcha, you son of a bitch ya, for spoutin’ that pack of lies.
    If there’s one thing I can’t abide, it’s an ethnocentric racist;
    Now you take back that thing you said ’bout Aristitle Onassis.””

    I’d love to hear Max Blumenthal play that in Tel Aviv and see what the reaction was

  17. on October 5, 2013, 10:15 am

    Everyone who lived in many countries (lived, not came as a tourist) knows this phenomenon. Unless you’ve come for very positive ideological reasons, during the first years you face all the unpleasant sides of the life in the new country and you loaf them to such a great emotional extent that you project this on the character of the entire country. Moreover, you feel thrilled to tell this to anybody who is ready (and is not) to listen and to convince him how bad it is. Want some examples.

    Not for foreigners kindergartens in Belmont MA, teachers’ violence in a primary school in Brookline MA, slums and open racism in Roxbury MA, aggressive anti-Semitism and open Nazi support by high school kids in Santa Barbara CA, fears to be attacked when walking to the parking garage in the evenings on the MIT campus, crime war zone with mounted police on streets after 4pm in downtown shopping district in Seattle. Enough?

    German aggressiveness on autobahns or at cashiers counters at supermarkets. What Germans say privately about their new compatriots from former East Germany. French working habits. French organic intolerance of foreigners. Trying to find on Yom Kippur the central synagogue in Paris which looks like a secret massively protected military installation.. Warnings in London not to get into Muslim neighbourhoods wearing yarmulka.

    These are just few things. And what you read in newspapers or see on TV! Unbearable conditions of seasonal Hispanic workers on US farms, generals sending empty military cargo planes to bring over gulf clubs which they forgot in Chicago, the incredible cases of corruption in Senate and Congress, the WALL along the border in Mexico and manhunting there. The ways Germans treat Turks (second and third generation). Or Brits relate to frogs, sorry French.. Etc, etc
    So Blumenthal, in his immature superficiality and personal dishonesty turns all these emotions and aspects of living in a different country into a book hoping to ride the wave of anti-Israel emotions which are now celebrated and repeated and celebrated again by the ultra-left in Israel, Europe and US and on this blog.

    • Shingo on October 7, 2013, 4:41 pm

      Unless you’ve come for very positive ideological reasons, during the first years you face all the unpleasant sides of the life in the new country and you loaf them to such a great emotional extent that you project this on the character of the entire country.

      In other words, it is a hostile, racist, and vile place that takes a lot of getting used to.

  18. Citizen on October 6, 2013, 5:39 am

    It’s always interesting to check out the unofficial Rules Of Engagement of the IDF, the “most moral army in the world.” Looks like some rabbis and lots of settlers took a page from Himmler regarding why it’s a Jewish Soldier’s duty to kill goy babies and children:

    (How to Kill Goyim and Influence People: Life and Loathing in Greater Israel
    A controversial, racist book sparked a national uproar in Israel.
    October 1, 2013
    This is an excerpt fromGoliath: Life and Loathing in Greater Israel by Max Blumenthal (Nation Books, 2013).

    Meanwhile American politicians keep telling Dick and Jane that America and Israel have the same Judeo-Christian values. Or, as Bibi Netanyahu put it while in the (98% goy) USA not so long ago, “We are one, we are the same.”

  19. Citizen on October 6, 2013, 6:22 am

    Interesting to read the reviews of Max’s new book on Amazon, including those from Pamela Olson and MJ Rosenberg:

    If you also read the comments to those reviews, you will see that one of the reviewers, “Kitchen Magic,” is a pristine hasbara bot. In some cases he tries to drown out the positive comments by simply hitting the repeat button on his stupid and useless one-liner at least a dozen times.

  20. Ecru on October 6, 2013, 10:41 am

    You just have to read some of the comments from the usual pro-Israel crowd here in Mondoweiss and it’s easy to see how deeply bigotry underpins Zionism, the Zionist world-view and Israel.

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