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Thousands of Christian Evangelists attend a parade in the center of Jerusalem, marking the Jewish holiday of Sukkot or the Feast of the Tabernacles. Oct 04, 2012. (Photo: Miriam Alster/Flash90)

Thousands of Christian Evangelists attend a parade in the center of Jerusalem, marking the Jewish holiday of Sukkot or the Feast of the Tabernacles. Oct 04, 2012. (Photo: Miriam Alster/Flash90)

He didn’t answer me when I asked him if he thought it would rain. It was morning, about a week ago, and under gray clouds journalist Max Blumenthal and I were heading to Jerusalem. The night before seated at a humid Ramallah patio after a flash rainstorm, the kind that spears diagonally and inverts umbrellas, we had heard a rumor about how Israel engineers early fall precipitation. Here’s how it goes: at the close of each summer Israel shoots silver iodide into the sky. Then it rains. It’s called cloud seeding, and most airports do it, but to keep skies clear. But according to West Bank popular gossip the purpose of Israel’s fall cloud seeding is spiritual rejuvenation to mark the High Holiday season for the Jewish population—a man-made blessing.

I’ve actually heard this cloud-seeding rumor before, last October. In fact, for me hearing it again over coffee and arak marked the end of a warm evenings and a return to wind, sweaters and a very cold house.

“I’m not a conspiracy theorist,” laughed a twenty-something Palestinian who in our show of hands voted that the downpour was chemically induced. But the table was split. All the Palestinians except one agreed Israel was responsible for the rain while the foreigners were doubtful. Our debate had a voracity usually reserved for matters like reality television, or how the conflict will end; everyone has an opinion, but nothing seemed viable. Max and I chalked the rumor up to an extension of the all-powerful feeling Israel holds for those it occupies. Israel constructs absurd conditions in the West Bank—the wall, checkpoints, and an endless sea “temporary closures”—not to mention much more mundane annoyances like traffic jams because of settler road repairs. In the urban reprieve of Ramallah, ATMs regularly run out of cash, electricity and water get shut off, and burning trash—the official waste removal system of the de facto capital—can spread into inner city fires within minutes. So why can’t Israel engineer the weather too?

Because it was Max’s last day in the country before departing to New York by way of Jordan, we wanted to report on one more Sukkot-inspired provocation before he left. We had read about an evangelical Christian parade, the largest street event of the year, and a settler march through the Muslim Quarter of the Old City. But first, Max needed cash, and that unfolded a series of hiccups that ultimately kept us from finding the 60,000-strong celebration.

So what was intended to be a day of reporting on Sukkot ended as a day of running around Jerusalem, blocked from reaching each of our destinations because of holiday-related closures.

Our first detour was to a hotel to use an ATM and then exchange money at the front desk. But the hotel, though hailed as the only four-star accommodations in the West Bank, was out of the Jordanian currency. So we hoofed uphill to a money exchange store where Max could get both Shekels and Dinars to pay his exit/entrance fees at the border. Then we hopped into a taxi to Qalandia checkpoint, the main artery from the West Bank to Jerusalem. It was a ten-minute ride followed by a 20-meter walk to a bus stop. Then we got on the bus and rode another 20 meters, then off the bus to walk through the actual turn-stile crossing, then back on the bus for a 40-minute shuttle; one taxi, two buses, and one checkpoint.

Within an hour and a half we were in Jerusalem.

During the ride I thought of Tel Aviv. A few days before, I was also in transit to Jerusalem, but from the coastal city. Just over 60 kilometers, that trip was around three times the distance, but during off-peak traffic it is only 45 minutes. Oh the ease of Tel Aviv when flatted to a pros and cons list next to Ramallah, its proximate bubble comparison. Both cities are canals of reality-denial, but no matter how many conferences and artists residencies from the avant garde of Berlin, Ramallah is still occupied, while Tel Aviv has an airport, and the kind of blight and poverty that has come to typify modern, industrialized centers.

It is only by Tel Aviv’s central bus station where each street block has at least one homeless refugee sleeping in alcove that I feel like I’m back in the West. Otherwise the city is a series of contradictions. As +972 Magazine’s Noam Sheizaf pointed out to me a few weeks before, Tel Aviv was built on top of three Palestinian villages while most West Bank settlements were constructed on agricultural– therefore uninhabited– Palestinian land. And so Tel Aviv, which is viewed as the capital of the anti-occupation movement (though completely marginal, if not heretical inside the Israeli discourse), has an arguably more colonial history than Jewish expansion into the West Bank.

Once in Jerusalem, Max and I went to see my friend Jihad who owns a tee-shirt printing shop in the Muslim Quarter of the Old City. His store was featured on Al Jazeera because he screens both pro and anti-Obama tees. We stopped in to find out where the Christian parade was taking off from, what time the settlers would march, and to check the schedule for the buses Max needs to reach the Jordanian border.

Sometimes on Sukkot settlers march through the Muslim Quarter to reach the Western Wall. Sometimes this causes clashes. But Jihad said things were calm, and quiet on the business end. Tensions in Syria are keeping tourists away, he lamented. But we hit another setback. He also told us that the buses to the border only run until 1 pm so we had to phone a taxi for Max. To reach the border, it ended up costing him about 100 Shekels more leaving from Jerusalem than if he had left directly from Ramallah. We ordered the car, stashed Max’s suitcase in the back of Jihad’s shop and then took off for Ben Yehuda Street where we expected to find American and European conservative Christians having a holiday.

Exiting the Old City, we saw around thirty border police in semi-riot gear. But the on-edge, ready-to-go atmosphere is now typical for Jerusalem. Last week around 300 settlers stormed the al-Aqsa Mosque compound under IDF protection. During Jewish holidays it has become commonplace over the past few years for droves of hardliners to pray at the Muslim holy site—something that is illegal under Israeli law, but still occurs. Sometimes the religious-nationalists are even joined by members of Knesset, thereby giving an official sanction to a violation of Israel’s own policies.

Within 20 minutes we were on Ben Yehuda Street between tourists, Israeli security, and religious Jewish families with five or six kids in tow. But no Christian parade in sight. We asked a few police officers when the march was going to start. They told us it was in another part of town that was too far away for Max to get to before he needed to catch his taxi. Instead of reaching our destination we had set out for hours before, we said goodbye. Then I headed off to the American Consulate of Jerusalem and Max back to Jihad’s clothing store to get his luggage, then taxi, then bus, then another bus, then the border crossing and finally another taxi to Amman.

All the way the skies were golden. Not a seeable cloud in sight. But by the time I got to the concrete government compound, it was closed. I was delivering visa documents for an attorney who is working on an asylum case and needed some forms delivered that day. His office is in Tel Aviv and the only FedEx around is in the airport. It had seemed convenient for me to deliver the envelopes. But when I reached the building, the guards in front told me the consulate had closed early because of a security threat. They said there was a protest in the morning so the entire staff left early. The building was locked. I was told to come back the next day, but in the morning because the office would close early again. The staff was going to have a Sukkot party.

Twice defeated, I too headed back to Jihad’s store.

From the consulate I took a bus to the Mamilla mall, which is built on top of a former Palestinian cemetery. I needed to cross the outdoor shopping center to get back to the Old City. I decided to spear through the crowds, rather than around the mall, so I could avoid walking uphill. Inside the mall I saw a young woman playing John Lennon’s “Imagine” on saxophone. “…Imagine all the people, living life in peace. You hoo hoo hoo…” I sang along to myself, all the while thinking “she has no idea she’s standing on a cemetery.”

Yet as quick as the lyrics arrived, guilt set in. I don’t know this woman. Why do I feel the need to judge her? Can’t she just play her song? Or maybe I’m trying to make myself feel guilty, for narcissism is certainly an easier pill to swallow than thinking seriously about upturned graves and shopping malls. And it requires a certain amount of sensitivity that is becoming harder and harder to reach. So I recruited the Beatles’s chorus back into my head for another bar.

The mall’s exit dumped me at the Christian Quarter. I strolled to the corridor that leads to the Muslim Quarter, but was told that the road was closed. Like the American consulate, the street was shut down for security reasons. So I turned into an alley near the Latin Patriarch, a roundabout way to reach Jihad’s store. I felt like an Old City pro. I’m a pilot, I’m a navigator; I know where all the secret passage ways are!

“You may say that I’m a dreamer, but I’m not the only one…” danced around in my thoughts until I was back at Jihad’s store. Max was still there. He was discovering why Jihad’s shop is famous. We looked through the custom designs and got a kick out of the Carlos Latuff prints, most of which could not be worn on the streets of New York without eliciting a brutal big apple, big-attitude scolding. One shirt had an image of a soldier calling his mom from a pay phone, telling her about his great army work— next to a bloody Palestinian who’d been shot in the head. Not to exclude any potential customers, Jihad also has shirts like an army fatigued “Uzi does it,” and one with President Obama dressed as a Hasid, another with Obama dressed as Bin Laden.

At this point in the day the afternoon had passed without Max and me finding the Christian Zionist parade—or doing anything remotely useful with our time. Jihad said his taxi was waiting for him, but on a different street than where we expected to meet him because there were Sukkot road closures. As we exited the stone Mamluk-era walls of Jerusalem, more settlers piled into the Old City, but we only saw families so we decided it was unlikely that clashes would occur.

However, about an hour after we said goodbye for a second time that day, clashes started.

Out here sometimes you can stumble onto some great historical event, but more often than not I feel like I’m chasing something between long waits and re-routed commutes.

I went back to Ramallah, alone. The number 18 bus that runs from the promised Palestinian capital to the de-facto Palestinian capital took about an hour—about the same time as the commute from the internationally recognized capital of Israel, Tel Aviv, to Israel’s official capital of Israel, Jerusalem.

As soon as I passed Qalandia the heavens opened up. Rain ricocheted off of the abandoned cars and heaps of trash that blockade the entrance to the West Bank that seem to be replaced as soon as they are cleared. Note to Israelis: apparently it is dangerous to your lives to enter here, or so the red signs at the crossing say. “Welcome to the undivided capital of Israel,” I hummed to myself. Then I thought back to the cloud seeding conversation the day before. Two rains in one week seemed strange for this time of year, but then again what do I know? I’ve been here a year. It’s enough time to get intimate with the political dimension, but the weather still eludes me.

As the bus motored north of the checkpoint, the rain seemed to stop. I turned around and looked out the back window. It was still raining over Qalandia checkpoint, and the drops had a rhythm that seemed to sing, “I hope someday you’ll join us, and the wor-r-ld will live as one.” But it’s an old song and buskers at graveyards aside, old songs are mere clichés. I want a new song. I want courage.

On Sukkot, this city was shut down for Palestinians. And if it wasn’t shut down by the holiday, then it was shut down by Qalandia. Jerusalem was supposed to be the economic, social and religious center to Palestinian life. It’s not. Arab-Palestinian east Jerusalem today is a cluster of ghettoized neighborhoods. Places like Shuafat refugee camp are completely enclosed behind a massive checkpoint, a concrete wall, and a chain-linked fence. Palestinians have to present an ID to get in and out. It’s a disgusting form of segregation and the fact that this illogical imprisonment of a Jerusalem—not even West Bank—neighborhood is carried out under the pseudonym of “security” is even more preposterous than thinking Israel makes rain.

 

Allison Deger
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  1. Citizen
    Citizen
    October 3, 2013, 11:46 am

    So did the Christian Zionists ever have their big parade? Something a tad quid pro quo for their constant votes and hard-earned cash deposits to Israel? Or did the rain keep them away?

    • DICKERSON3870
      DICKERSON3870
      October 3, 2013, 7:47 pm

      ● PHOTO: Feast of Tabernacles march through Jerusalem – 2008

      ALSO SEE – “Feast of Tabernacles Conference: The Christian Zionists Lobby Has Returned”, By Tristan Sturm, PalestineChronicle.com, 8/23/13

      [EXCERPTS] Jerusalemites have no doubt witnessed an increased Christian Zionist presence on the streets in the last few days. Indeed, more than 6,000 Christian Zionists have returned to Israel for their annual “Feast of Tabernacles Conference.” This is the largest non-Jewish and non-Islamic conference in Jerusalem, and is organized by the International Christian Embassy in Jerusalem (ICEJ).
      These ICEJ Christian Zionists have descended upon Jerusalem from over 60 international states. They follow a foundationally American version of Pentecostalism and Evangelicalism, sects whose missionaries have penetrated the four corners of the Earth to become the fastest growing religious movement in the world.
      Many Palestinians are familiar with the Christian Zionists’ central prophecies: (1) an imminent return of Christ; (2) the war to end all wars at Tel Megiddo; and (3) the millennial reign of Christ from the Third Temple.
      However, these prophecies will only materialize if Israel’s borders expand to the biblical metes and bounds interpreted from Exodus 23:31—essentially engulfing Palestine and parts of Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Jordan, and Egypt. This cartographic violence runs roughly south to the river Nile and north-east to the Euphrates. Further, this prophetic expansion requires a population that is both ethnically and religiously Jewish.
      Such territorial, ethic, and religious requirements explain why Christian Zionists eagerly support the illegal settlement movement, the Jewish migration to Israel and Palestine, wars with Israel’s neighboring states, and the dispossession of Palestinian territory and in some cases genocide of Palestinians.
      Such Christian Fundamentalism, writes Slavoj Zizek—one of the world’s most famous popular philosophers today—is one of the two “principle dangers today,” the other being capitalism. And clearly these pilgrims are influential. Clearly these Christian Zionists are influential in Palestine and Israel both discursively and materially. . .
      . . . Representative of their support for Israel’s territorial expansion, each year pilgrims are taken to settlements like “the strategic Gilo Ridge… to hear about the siege of Jerusalem in 1948 through the eyes of an Israeli soldier who fought in the battle.” . . .
      . . . At the end of the trip, the Christian Zionist pilgrims on the fieldtrip were taken to the edge of Sderot to a landscape lookout near the Parash Hill. It was here the tour leader told us with resounding approval from the pilgrims that “Muslims are a people of death, and Jews and Christians are peoples of life.” Prior to this, the Mayor of Sderot met the group of some 50 Christian Zionists and exclaimed, quoting Defense Minister Ehud Barak, “the IDF is the most moral army.” . . .

      ENTIRE ARTICLE – http://www.palestinechronicle.com/feast-of-tabernacles-conference-the-christian-zionists-lobby-has-returned/#.Uk3_F4ash8E

  2. annie
    annie
    October 3, 2013, 12:47 pm

    i love your writing allison. really extraordinary.

    • just
      just
      October 3, 2013, 8:34 pm

      Totally agree, Annie. It is stunning, and thru her amazing eyes and ‘pen’ we see the truth.

      MW is laden with riches– truth and talent.

  3. Ludwig
    Ludwig
    October 3, 2013, 2:15 pm

    What is the problem with Christian Zionists marching? Be aware that sites that are holy to Jews are often closed on Muslim holy days. So why should not some Muslim sites be closed off on Jewish ones? It prevents friction.

  4. MahaneYehude1
    MahaneYehude1
    October 3, 2013, 2:49 pm

    It is the first time I hear that the parade is called “Evangelical Christian Parade”. The parade is called “Jerusalem Parade” and includes participants from Israeli organizations and institutions (Banks, police, hospitals, Jerusalem municipality etc.) and many guests from different countries including Evangelical Christians but also different churches and the Makuya’s members from Japan. This year the participants were from many countries like Australia, NZ, USA, HK, European countries, central and south American countries (hundreds from Brazil), japan and even from Nepal, China, Malaysia, Angola, Botswana, S. Korea and one from…Cambodia.

  5. October 3, 2013, 4:26 pm

    “During Jewish holidays it has become commonplace over the past few years for droves of hardliners to pray at the Muslim holy site—something that is illegal under Israeli law, but still occurs. Sometimes the religious-nationalists are even joined by members of Knesset, thereby giving an official sanction to a violation of Israel’s own policies.”

    I have already tried to post a comment about this but was blocked. I am trying again.

    1. .This Muslim holy site which this woman calls al Aqsa compound is officially called Temple Mount. Do you you know why it is “T E M P L E” ? Which Temple? This is the holiest place for Jews. Not the 3rd holiest.

    2. I am not religious person but it seems that the situation under which Jews cannot pray at their holiest place is not normal. Some arrangement must be found to accommodate them. Israel government gave up on this under the pressures of the Moslems but why the following very liberally looking declaration should be wrong
    “The Temple Mount should be a place where people of any religion can pray.” What is wrong with this. Read below to see what the real issue is.
    Why should one surrender to Islamic extremists?
    Here are the discussions of the appropriate Knesset committee on this issue.
    http://www.jpost.com/Diplomacy-and-Politics/Ministry-to-arrange-Jewish-prayer-on-Temple-Mount-312496
    MK Moshe Feiglin (Likud Beytenu), who has been voting against the coalition in response to recently being banned from visiting the Temple Mount by Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu, said the main issue is sovereignty over the Temple Mount.
    “The Wakf’s problem isn’t prayer, but the sovereign symbolism of prayer,” Feiglin explained. “As far as they are concerned, [Jewish prayer] eats away at the total Muslim rule over the Temple Mount.”
    According to MK Tamar Zandberg (Meretz – left wing liberal party which opposed the WB occupation), every person of any religion has the right to pray in the places he or she considers holy. Zandberg said she agrees with Feiglin that this is an issue of sovereignty, adding that Jews will only be able to pray in the places holy to them after the occupation ends and Jerusalem is divided.
    MK Ibrahim Sarsour (United Arab List-Ta’al) asked why Jews cannot pray somewhere other than at al-Aksa Mosque.
    “Jews in Israel need to understand that one day Jerusalem will return to Palestinians and Muslims,” Sarsour added. “The solution is to maintain the status quo.”
    MK Taleb Abu Arar (UALTa’al) said the issue is more religious than political, and echoed Sarsour’s call to continue the current situation.
    “It is a basic right of every Israeli citizen to go up to the Temple Mount,” Regev said, concluding the meeting. “The State of Israel must protect this right. Freedom of religion and worship are anchored in our basic laws, and as a sovereign state, we must protect them.”

    • Ludwig
      Ludwig
      October 3, 2013, 5:18 pm

      fnlevit,

      I really appreciate your comment. I would also add that the mosque is only a small section of the Temple Mount. Jews have the right to pray at our holiest spot without being attacked or molested in any way. Who in the world could dispute this?

      Ludwig

      • annie
        annie
        October 3, 2013, 10:19 pm

        i would dispute it. it is a sanctuary. sometimes when jews pray they do it very loudly with lots of loud stomping around. if they cannot respect it is a sanctuary and treat it as such they should not be there.

      • wondering jew
        wondering jew
        October 3, 2013, 10:53 pm

        annie robbins- What an ignorant statement! Sometimes Jews stomp loudly. Yes, this is the reason why Jews are not allowed to move their lips in private prayer when they visit the Temple Mount (Haram el Sharif). Not. That’s just a very stupid thing to say.

        There are reasons why Jewish prayer might be limited on the Mount. Primarily a legal one, because that part of Jerusalem is occupied territory and thus any visit of people that the occupied people object to, creates a tension in occupied territory and thus entangles occupier and occupied in increased tension. That’s a reason.

        But Jews stomp loudly sometimes? Please.

        (There are reasons to concede the mosques their primacy on the spot, as in: there are a billion plus Muslims and only less than 20 million Jews, so conceding the space to its victors from the 7th century, rather than claiming it by the victors from the 20th century (victors, maybe not, because the UN resolution 242 is the unspoken victor that has yet been recognized as such) is one way of avoiding world conflict.)

        But loud stomping is just bigoted silly stuff from one of MW’s contributors.

      • annie
        annie
        October 3, 2013, 10:55 pm

        what are you talking about? there were a whole bunch of them making a total rukus in there just last week. it was caught on video. there’s one gate controlled by israel and they let them in.

      • wondering jew
        wondering jew
        October 3, 2013, 11:06 pm

        annie- You’re confusing a protest against the current policy versus establishing a new policy. The protesters do as protesters do, make a ruckus. And sometimes Jews do stomp. but that is not why there is a prohibition by the wakf against Jews praying. It ain’t the stomping, sister!

      • annie
        annie
        October 3, 2013, 11:08 pm

        it’s a sanctuary and should be respected as such.

      • just
        just
        October 3, 2013, 11:09 pm

        Simple denial. There’s none so blind as those who will not see.

        Used to work– not so much anymore. :}

        It’s a far, far different exposure that Israel has right now. The Emperor Has No Clothes. Very welcome, indeed.

      • annie
        annie
        October 3, 2013, 11:12 pm

        yonah, i didn’t address jews praying respectfully. this is wrong:

        http://mondoweiss.net/2013/09/religious-storming-mainstream.html

      • ziusudra
        ziusudra
        October 4, 2013, 4:38 am

        Greetings yonah fredman,
        …. 20 mill. jews……
        . 5.9 mill in Zionistan,
        . 6.0 mill in the US,
        300K in France,
        15K in Iran,
        1 in China!
        Just where are these people living?
        Are you counting the Gravestones of World Jewry?
        ziusudra
        PS Hyperpole & disinformation on any given statistic,
        pathetic.

      • Sycamores
        Sycamores
        October 4, 2013, 8:50 am

        yonah

        these zealot low lifes are storming the Al Aqsa mosque not to pray but to provoke the Palestinians. internationally it is seen as an intentional provocation by Jewish hardliners.
        there is no confusion about this.
        if these hardliners carry on with this behaviour and if you think that this is ok i will leave you with this thought, remember how the second Intifada started back in September 2000. oh BTW it was also known Al Aqsa Intifada.

      • just
        just
        October 3, 2013, 10:38 pm

        Ludwig.

        Small section??????????? What are you spewing?

        Sick. Every single thing that you can spin mere cloth into Zionist gold is precious to you while denying any or all of Muslim/regional/ fairly modern history. Your “way back” machine is broken.

        You are practicing Apartheid right here. Yech.

      • Ludwig
        Ludwig
        October 3, 2013, 10:45 pm

        Look at an image of the temple mount. The Mosque is only a small section.

      • just
        just
        October 3, 2013, 10:47 pm

        You will never succeed in diminishing the indigenous Palestinians (Christian, Agnostic, Jewish, Muslim, whatever) nor the Muslims of the greater world or any of the other religious folks or anybody. We’re done with that. Now tell us all that you are better, more entitled, more better, more intelligent, etc. Seriously, it’s over.

        Deeds, dude. You and your leaders are failing.

        so sorry for you.

      • wondering jew
        wondering jew
        October 3, 2013, 11:02 pm

        just- Google temple mount and see how large Haram el Sharif is and what small percentage of the spot is used by the mosques. If Muslims and Jews cooperated, it would be easy to find a spot for Jews to pray (without stomping) on the Temple Mount. Obviously Muslims and Jews are not cooperating and the type of cooperation I am talking about has not yet ever taken place since the Arab conquest of the 7th century. The cooperation since that conquest has been, we (Muslims) get to build our mosques and pray up on the mount and you (defeated Jews) get to pray in a small alleyway near the mount. (Most Jews who are interested in asserting their right to pray up on the Mount are not interested in cooperation but in asserting their rights, so today’s lack of cooperation has many sources but for 1300 or so years, the lack of cooperation was based upon Muslim triumphalism.)

      • annie
        annie
        October 3, 2013, 11:13 pm

        the noble sanctuary is larger than the mosque. this is not solely about the mosque.

      • annie
        annie
        October 3, 2013, 11:16 pm

        cooperate? oh by all means give me an example of israelis cooperating!!

        If Muslims and Jews cooperated, it would be easy to find a spot for Jews to pray

        a spot? HA HA HA the greed of israel will not be forgotten! get out of the west bank, pull the settlements off palestininan land. the encroachments or your apartheid state are too much! talk about sharing after you’ve demonstrated you know how!

        why not start with the WATER! there are examples of israelis ‘sharing’ everywhere, and it’s disgusting! like the way you’ve ‘shared’ jerusalem? ‘oh just a spot for us to pray’. do you think we are idiots? do you think the world cannot see what greed and offense goes on in the holy land?

      • just
        just
        October 3, 2013, 11:28 pm

        So Muslims, who have a tiny place, should just give it up to the IOF and those that they protect at the far, far and away Temple while the IOF and Israel prevents them from praying or even looking upon the Mosque??? How in the hell is that even right? The Occupation and theft from the Palestinians has only become more despicable since forever in my lifetime.
        End the freaking Occupation! Why is that wherever Jews worship is more “sacred” than where everyone else does?

      • Woody Tanaka
        Woody Tanaka
        October 3, 2013, 11:36 pm

        “Look at an image of the temple mount. The Mosque is only a small section.”

        It’s all the al Haram ash Sharif. And who cares what percentage of it is covered by al Aqsa mosque. That does not mean that the rest can be stolen by the Jews from its Muslim owners.

        You have the Western Wall. Go pray there.

      • Woody Tanaka
        Woody Tanaka
        October 3, 2013, 11:41 pm

        “Google temple mount and see how large Haram el Sharif is and what small percentage of the spot is used by the mosques.”

        So what? Does that mean that the Jews can steal the remainder from its owners?

        “If Muslims and Jews cooperated, it would be easy to find a spot for Jews to pray (without stomping) on the Temple Mount. ”

        You have a spot. The Western Wall. Go pray there.

        And the israelis have held the Palestinians (both Muslims and Christians) as serfs in their own land, and acted as barbarically as the israelis have treated the Palestinians have some damned nerve calling on their victims to “cooperate.” How about get all of your god damned people back behind the green line first, if you want some god damned cooperation. The nerve of you is amazing.

      • ziusudra
        ziusudra
        October 4, 2013, 5:07 am

        Greetings Woody Tanaka,
        Yoooosh!O Genki desu ka?
        The Temple was destroyed by the Romans in 70AD.
        The Al Alsa Mosque goes up in 691AD.
        There was nothing there betw 70AD & 691AD.
        The Jews voluntarily starting migrating to Greece in 200BC.
        The Jews were a minority between betw. 200BC & 691AD.
        They continued leaving betw. 691AD & 1200AD under Islam.
        The Falesteeni had very Little contact with Jews betw. 456BC
        & 200BC. even less from 200BC & 1917AD!!!
        ziusudra

      • Woody Tanaka
        Woody Tanaka
        October 6, 2013, 10:26 pm

        “Genki desu ka?”

        Appreciate the effort , but I don’t speak anything but English with any fluency.

      • Light
        Light
        October 3, 2013, 10:52 pm

        Praying at Haram ash Sharif is not a right of Israelis or Jews. The site is not even in Israel. Israel might as well declare that Israelis have the right to pray at the Vatican.

      • just
        just
        October 3, 2013, 10:59 pm

        Yep.

        Zionists want all of the “non- chosen” people gone.

        They want all of the land, the water, the air, the sky and the region.

        (not gonna happen). Just as with these Zionists’ stupid and terrible comments, they’ve both tried to diminish the people who actually inhabited the land…………

        extreme HUBRIS.

      • Woody Tanaka
        Woody Tanaka
        October 3, 2013, 11:29 pm

        “Jews have the right to pray at our holiest spot without being attacked or molested in any way. Who in the world could dispute this?”

        I would. It’s the property of the Muslims. Maybe if the israeli Jews haven’t acted so barbarically against the native population, they might be willing to share. But when they offered to share Palestine in 1948, the Jews chose to ethnically clense the Palestinians. So they tell them “no thanks. We won’t fall for the israeli lies again.”

        You have the Western Wall. Go pray there.

    • Sycamores
      Sycamores
      October 3, 2013, 7:09 pm

      hold your horses! are you talking about the same miri regev

      that stated she is “HAPPY TO BE FASCIST” in an Israeli media exchange about the Israeli attacks on Gaza with Knesset Member Jamal Zahalkha (National Democratic Assembly). MK Regev, the former spokesperson for the Israeli army, added further that MK Zahalkha “hates the state of Israel.”

      MK Zahalka, for his part, told Regev that “I am a son of this land, you are an immigrant! I am enlightened and you are dark! I am for the Palestinian people but I am not a fascist. I am against harming innocent people.”

      and the same miri regev that said African migrants and refugees “ARE A CANCER IN OUR BODY.”

      really, you are going to use this woman to support your argument, good luck with that one.
      LOL!

    • Woody Tanaka
      Woody Tanaka
      October 3, 2013, 9:33 pm

      “This Muslim holy site which this woman calls al Aqsa compound is officially called Temple Mount. ”

      Nope. It’s al Haram ash Sharif.

      “Do you you know why it is “T E M P L E” ? Which Temple? ”

      Hasn’t been a temple for 2,000 years. It used to be the temple mount. It’s not anymore. Its the Muslims. You lost. You have the Western Wall. Go pray there.

      “Not the 3rd holiest. ”

      It could be the 3,000th and it wouldn’t matter. It’s al Aqsa and has been for 13oo years. You have the Western Wall. Go pray there.

      “Some arrangement must be found to accommodate them.”

      It’s not theirs. It’s belong to the Muslims. They are under no obligation to accommodate them. And why would they? israelis have demonstrated nothing but the fact that they will go out of there way to their extremists. Because “accommodate” will, in short order, turn into the Jews doing a Bamiyan Buddha job on these Muslim sites (which are treasures for all humanity) to replace it with Jewish exclusivism. No thanks.

      • just
        just
        October 3, 2013, 10:27 pm

        Exactly correct Woody. btw, the crazed Pakistani born Taliban destroyed those Buddhas — the very same ones that the Afghans had respected and preserved forever……………..it’s been a great and undeserved disgrace attributed to the Afghan people!

        fnlevit– the myths that you and your fellow zionists continue to spread are no longer believed by even the idiots on the planet.

        It’s all been thanks to the internet and to the voices finally being heard here, there and everywhere. Realize that in a desperate effort to combat the truth, Israel has battalions of hired propagandists.

        Be truthful for once– try it! You might not be paid– take a sip from the well of truth. The honor of your elite tribe might actually feel that their collective thirst might be satisfied.

  6. dbroncos
    dbroncos
    October 3, 2013, 10:25 pm

    Thanks, Allison. Great story.

    “Yet as quick as the lyrics arrived, guilt set in. I don’t know this woman. Why do I feel the need to judge her? Can’t she just play her song?”

    Didn’t Darwish lament feeling compelled to see the simple things in life as symbols rather than just as beautiful things in themselves – a tree, a cloud, a sunny day? One of the many vexing elements of I/P.

    Palestinian Heritage – Naseer Shamma
    The Bride – Algerian Berber Music
    Time Marches On – Lee “Scratch” Perry
    I Lost My Girl To An Argentina Cowboy – American Song Poem Anthology
    Crossover – EPDM

  7. Nevada Ned
    Nevada Ned
    October 4, 2013, 8:30 am

    Israel has an official list of 135 designated religious sites that receive special protection.
    Question:
    How many of those sites are Jewish sites?
    How many are Christian sites?
    How many are Moslem sites?
    Answer:
    Jewish: 135
    Christian: 0
    Moslem: 0

    Surprised? You shouldn’t be. Once you understand this, you’re on the way to understanding what Israel is up to: getting rid of the non-Jewish sites, and getting rid of the non-Jews.

  8. kayq
    kayq
    October 4, 2013, 8:59 am

    Thanks Allison. Brilliant as always. Also those evangelicals are loonies.

  9. mcohen
    mcohen
    October 5, 2013, 5:11 am

    Why would you build a mosque on top of the ruins of a jewish temple ?
    Surely the time would come when the shoe would be on other foot

    • annie
      annie
      October 6, 2013, 3:34 pm

      maybe they didn’t see any ruins when they built the mosque. it was centuries later right? no camera or videos.

    • Woody Tanaka
      Woody Tanaka
      October 6, 2013, 10:22 pm

      “Why would you build a mosque on top of the ruins of a jewish temple ?”

      Why did the israelis built a holocaust memorial on the ruins of a village they ethnically cleansed?

      They didn’t. They built it on a site where the Prophet reportedly took the Night Journey. The ruins were long gone by then.

      • MahaneYehude1
        MahaneYehude1
        October 7, 2013, 5:36 am

        Woody: Correct! The Muslims built the mosque in the place, according to Suni tradition, where the prophet Muhammad arrived in his night journey riding Al-Buraq. But, there are several Islamic Suni sources contain clues that the Muslims knew that the place had been the Jewish Temple in the past. Please, see my reply to Annie for more information and Islamic web sites links.

      • Woody Tanaka
        Woody Tanaka
        October 7, 2013, 6:40 am

        (As should be clear, the fire paragraph in my response was a rhetorical question; the second referred to the acts of the Muslims, and was not answering the rhetorical question about the israelis.)

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