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Western diplomat: Netanyahu ‘out of step’ with the mood of detente toward Iran

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Reuters reports on Netanyahu’s failure to churn up momentum towards war with Iran. If anything he is losing ground as hopes for a diplomatic detente has taken over.

Reuters:

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said this week that Iran’s new president was a “wolf in sheep’s clothing”, but he himself looked increasingly like a lone wolf as his allies seek to bring Tehran into the fold.

After years of worrying about Iran’s disputed nuclear ambitions, Netanyahu took to the stage at the U.N. General Assembly on Tuesday and made his most explicit threat yet to attack the Islamic republic unless it ends its atomic program.

However, his warning carried less weight than in previous years, with only a dwindling band of diplomats and experts convinced that Israel might unleash its warplanes, especially at a time of warming ties between Iran and the rest of the world.

One Western diplomat involved in Iranian nuclear diplomacy described Netanyahu as “out of step” with the mood of detente and a former senior U.S. official cautioned that Israel would be unlikely to secure all its demands in any negotiations.

Israeli officials haver responded in their typical understated diplomatic manner:

Netanyahu’s message, a senior Israeli official said, was that world powers should “cut the crap” – see through what Israel regards as Iranian deception. That reflects the prime minister’s concern that there could be a swift easing of sanctions before Iran dismantles any nuclear infrastructure.

Not a member of the international negotiating team, the Israeli leader nonetheless laid out his conditions for a deal, including shutting down all Iranian uranium enrichment facilities and shipping out all its stocks of fissile material.

Such a comprehensive nuclear rollback looks highly unlikely, meaning Netanyahu will have to calibrate his expectations.

“Negotiating means there will have to be some give on both sides,” said Gary Samore, until recently the top nuclear proliferation expert on Obama’s national security staff.

“I think it’s unlikely that we are in a position to dictate to the Iranians that they have to meet all of our demands.”

Additionally, Israel may find itself on the sidelines if a deal is reached between the P5+1, five permanent U.N. Security Council members plus Germany, who will meet with Iran later this month in Geneva:

However, a diplomat from one of the P5+1 countries directly involved in the negotiations with Tehran stressed that while Israel’s view was important, it did not have power of veto.

“Israel will not be in the room if and when a deal is done,” said the diplomat, who declined to be named. “We take Israeli concerns very seriously. But I have a feeling that Netanyahu is slightly out of step with other nations at the moment.”

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  1. Justpassingby
    Justpassingby
    October 4, 2013, 12:01 pm

    Failure? Update yourself.
    Netanyahu have already managed to reverse the possible opening of doors between Iran and the US.

    Just take this:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/03/us-iran-suckers_n_4038550.html

    • Shingo
      Shingo
      October 5, 2013, 12:07 am

      Netanyahu have already managed to reverse the possible opening of doors between Iran and the US.

      Don’t take that article at face value Justpassingby. Huffington Post look like they took a very selective editorial slant from that press conference.

      Press TV took a very different slant and reported what Huffington Post left out.

      Kerry, Hagel rebuff Israel pressure over Iran
      http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/10/03/327337/us-rebuffs-israels-pressure-over-iran/

      This is given further weight by this interesting report, which suggest that Obama return to rhetoric about everything being on the table was a face saving measure for Netenyahu, but that behind closed doors, he told Netenyahu to forget about military attack or even scuttling diplomacy.

      Op-Ed: Dempsey’s Bombshell: No US Attack on Iran, Ever
      http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/13652#.Ukt_ZoZmiHa

  2. amigo
    amigo
    October 4, 2013, 12:16 pm

    “Israel will not be in the room if and when a deal is done,” said the diplomat, who declined to be named.”

    Oh happy days.

    Finally something might be achieved without the whinger there to slow the process down.,

    • seafoid
      seafoid
      October 5, 2013, 6:08 am

      Israel looks very like the Swiss banks. Previously hugely influential overleveraged marginal player . But the Yanks decide they need a new way forward and the marginal players are sidelined.

  3. HarryLaw
    HarryLaw
    October 4, 2013, 12:34 pm

    “However, a diplomat from one of the P5+1 countries directly involved in the negotiations with Tehran stressed that while Israel’s view was important, it did not have power of veto”. He obviously does not know the power of the lobby, Israel is the spectre at the feast, together with Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states opposing Iran’s nuclear program and the rabid right wing in US politics wanting even more sanctions, I don’t think a deal is possible.

    • Justpassingby
      Justpassingby
      October 4, 2013, 2:28 pm

      Its about Israel, not gulf states.

      • Citizen
        Citizen
        October 5, 2013, 6:54 am

        @ Justpassingby
        No, it’s about Israel, and therefore its US enabler, and the Gulf states and Saudi Arabia are partners in this US enablement; they have the oil and they harbor many US military assets, assets there, surrounding Iran, threatening Iran by their mere presence.

  4. FreddyV
    FreddyV
    October 4, 2013, 1:01 pm

    Out of step?

    In the famous words of Erin Brockovitch:

    “That’s all you got, lady. Two wrong feet in f—ing ugly shoes.”

  5. pabelmont
    pabelmont
    October 4, 2013, 1:13 pm

    Let’s hope that P5+1 (or anyone else) [1] leaves Israel VISIBLY in the cold and [2] does not suffer any sort of blowback for doing so.

    That way the world leaders will learn and will also demonstrate to the public and the press that Israel’s noisiness is just the blather of a rather unimportant spoiled brat used to getting its way, but will henceforward be ignored when it is badly behaved.

    LATER maybe bad behavior will will punishment, but let’s take one thing at a time.

  6. October 5, 2013, 2:10 am

    Iranians chanted “Death to America” and burned the U.S. flag after weekly prayers in Tehran on Friday despite their new president’s outreach to the West and promises of moderation and easing of tensions with the outside world.
    http://bigstory.ap.org/article/iranians-still-chant-against-us-after-prayers
    The chant was then repeated several times by a group of worshippers who rallied after the ceremony, burning the American and Israeli flags, as they do almost every week.

  7. Nevada Ned
    Nevada Ned
    October 5, 2013, 2:40 am

    One important fact is being overlooked: from 1953 to 1979, Iran was ruled by the Shah, a US-backed dictator. The Shah was installed in 1953 by the CIA in Operation Ajax. In 1953, the Shah overthrew in a military coup a democratic Iranian government that had dared to nationalize the oil industry.
    The US wants regime change, overthrowing the current Iranian government and replacing it with something more malleable to the US.
    The US blockade of Iran’s economy is intended to cause economic hardship, leading to regime change.

    Is there any precedent for this? Yes there is. In Chile, the US strategy led to a very bloody 1973 military coup, in which US-based dictator Augusto Pinochet overthrew democratic socialist Salvador Allende.
    In Cuba, the US blockade has continued since 1960, causing real damage to the Cuba economy but failing in its goal of regime change.

    I would not be surprised if the US proposes a deal in which the US would lift part of the blockade in return for Iran giving up its right to refine uranium. Iran wants and needs to have the entire blockade stopped. If that fails, maybe Iran could increase trade with China, evading the blockade.

  8. amigo
    amigo
    October 5, 2013, 10:39 am

    OT but of interest.

    “Israel has decided to run for a rotating seat on the United Nations Security Council, but faces an uphill battle due to the antipathy of many member states.” Mark Weiss IT.

    Best of luck getting 128 nations to vote for the occupation Nation.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/middle-east/israel-to-run-for-seat-on-un-security-council-1.1550944

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