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Grindr in Hebron: A dispatch from the last debate

Over the years, I have experienced a barrage of attacks from a virtual who’s who of pro-Israel activists and intellectuals. Yet none of my assailants have ever accepted an invitation to engage with me in a public conversation. The most notable example of the phenomenon was provided in recent months by Eric Alterman, who attacked me in nine separate posts on the Nation website but vehemently refused to debate me, though he solicited a $10,000 fee to do so under the table.

Max Blumenthal speaking in Culver City, CA, November 4, 2013. (Photo: Jimmy Janszen)
Max Blumenthal speaking in Culver City, CA, November 4, 2013. (Photo: Jimmy Janszen)

Alterman was not alone. The Nation Institute invited Peter Beinart to engage with me in a moderated discussion in October in New York City at the opening event of my book tour, but Beinart refused without explanation. Gershom Gorenberg, the liberal Zionist author and journalist who has scathingly attacked my work, refused an invitation from the journalist Robert Wright to engage with me in a discussion on the online debating site, Bloggingheads. So did Eli Lake, the passionately neoconservative correspondent who busies himself during lunch breaks and throughout the workday by lobbying insults at me on Twitter. They were cowed, and understandably so.

It is increasingly clear that the struggle over the future of Israel-Palestine will be decided through a conflict between Zionists and anti-Zionists, with Jews and Arabs aligned on both sides of the divide. However, American Zionists have stringently avoided sharing any intellectual space with their real adversaries. Beinart was eager to debate Alan Dershowitz; Jeremy Ben Ami has jousted with Bill Kristol; and Daniel Gordis argued the merits of boycotting settlements with Lara Friedman. But few of these figures have ever dared to expose their ideas to the interrogation of a Palestinian or an anti-Zionist Jew. Instead, liberal and Likudnik Zionists stage one mock debate after another, aiming to conceal their fundamentally anti-Palestinian ideological alignment behind a smokescreen of rancorous dispute.

When Zionists debate, they do so over the only issue over which they disagree: Which size cage should Palestinians inhabit?

Last week, I announced plans to appear at an Israel Apartheid Week event at Boston University alongside Sa’ed Atshan, a Palestinian-American Postdoctoral Fellow in International Studies at Brown University. Hours after the announcement, I received an message on Twitter from Richard Landes that offered a unique opportunity: he wanted to debate me.

Landes is a professor of history at Boston University with a specialization in millennialism. Despite his lack of academic credentials on Israel-Palestine and the Middle East, he has made a name for himself on the rightward edge of the pro-Israel advocacy world by denying Israeli human rights crimes – he has branded images of Palestinian victimhood as examples of “Pallywood.” Through his involvement in front groups like Scholars for Peace in the Middle East, Landes has received substantial support from big pro-Israel donors like the Fairbrook Foundation and from the right-wing Koch Brothers.

I accepted Landes’ invitation primarily because I reasoned that exposing his reactionary line of thinking would be productive for a university audience. Since Atshan was to join me as a debating partner, Landes invited a former South Sudanese refugee named Simon Deng to round out the field. Deng is trained as a lifeguard, not an academic or journalist, and works on the beaches of Coney Island, not the Middle East. But his sectarian views on Arabs and Muslims attracted the attention and support of Charles Jacobs, the David Project founder who has called Europeans “neopagans” and described mosques as “victory markers.” Thanks to Jacobs and his allies, Deng has been junketed around the world to counter Palestine solidarity events, denigrating Muslims and “so-called Palestinian refugees” while arguing that accusations that Israel practices of apartheid are insulting to Africans like him.

The debate proceeded almost exactly as I expected it would. With the discussion framed around the topic of Palestinian resistance, Landes spent much of his time blaming Palestinians for their own suffering, accusing children of faking injuries and arguing that their resistance to Zionism was a ploy designed to distract from the cultural failings of the Arab world. His rhetoric echoed an op-ed he published in the Wall Street Journal in which he argued that Palestinians enjoyed higher standards of living in areas settled by Jews like Jerusalem and the occupied West Bank than in areas like Gaza that were exclusively Palestinian. As devoid of context and nakedly colonialist as the claim might have been, it mirrored Beinart’s argument in his book, The Crisis of Zionism, that the advancement of Zionism in historic Palestine had cured Palestinians of their illiteracy (p. 15). Indeed, right-wing Israel advocates like Landes were not unique in their celebration of Zionism as a mission civilisatrise.

Atshan and I spent much of our time outlining the myriad obstacles Palestinians faced in their struggle for basic rights, from military occupation to a regime of legal apartheid to the crusade of intellectual suppression and intimidation guided by Israel advocates like Charles Jacobs, who was seated in the audience. With Washington closed off to anyone to the left of AIPAC, I argued, the only available recourse was a campaign of massive external pressure against Israel organized among global civil society, with BDS as its central tactic.

Deng did not attempt to counter any of our points. Instead, he spent much of his time rambling about the misdeeds and devious machinations of Muslims and Arabs. As soon as his turn for a rebuttal arrived, Landes reverted to type, branding me a “Jewish supremacist” because I held “the Jews” to unfairly high standards. Landes later turned to the crowd and proclaimed, “The Palestinians are ginned up on jihad.” The audience was practically rolling in the aisles, but they were not laughing with him.

Next, Landes homed in on Atshan, who happens to be gay, opening up a line of homophobic bullying. Landes told Atshan that because of his “gender choices” he could not safely travel to the Islamist-ruled Gaza Strip. Not only had Landes suggested that homosexuality was a choice, recycling a myth more familiar to the tongue talking bigots of the Christian Right than the obsessively pinkwashing Israel lobby, he had inadvertently invoked the specter of anti-gay violence against Atshan. On a college campus in a cosmopolitan urban center, this was not exactly a winning argument.

During the debate’s question and answer session, a gay pro-Israel student activist named Raphael Fils picked up where Landes left off. Fils, a founder of the Safe Hillel movement, recounted a tour he took to Hebron, an occupied city in the West Bank plagued by a suffocating regime of settler terror and army repression, and complained to Atshan about the greatest horror he witnessed there: When he logged onto Grindr, a popular geosocial hook-up application for gay and bisexual men, he could not find any available men.

“What’s up with that?” Fils asked Atshan in a deadly serious tone.

Atshan was stunned. He asked Fils why the only thing that outraged him during his visit to Hebron was the absence of Grindr dates. Then he launched into a devastating explanation of how sexual colonialism had been deployed to silence and denigrate Palestinians, branding them as culturally inferior in order to justify their continued occupation. Though words can hardly convey the power of Atshan’s response, unfortunately, I have not been able secure permission from the event’s planners to release video of the debate.

At this point in the debate, Landes, Deng, and their supporters in the audience seemed utterly demoralized. With the event drawing to a close, one of Landes’ supporters rose from the crowd to deliver a barely coherent tirade about Hajj Al-Amin Husseini, the long-dead Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, and his ties to Nazi Germany during World War Two. Minutes later, as Atshan and I left the stage, we found ourselves momentarily surrounded by a cast of geriatric Zionists demanding to know how we could overlook the Palestinians’ direct involvement in the Holocaust.

“They Palestinians aren’t the new Nazis,” one of them barked at me, “they’re the old Nazis!”

The rhetoric from the other side had rapidly degenerated from ahistorical to bigoted to bizarre to downright beserk. It had become painfully clear that this was all Zionists had left. No wonder events like our debate were so rare, and why they will become increasingly so.

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Well done, Max. The consequences of Zionism, which are thoroughly detailed in your book, are irrefutable, which is of course why so many of them refuse to debate publicly about the hideous vindictive, sadistic practices of the occupation. Instead, all they can offer is myths, lies and incitement – which betrays the weakness of their case. No wonder they are so threatened by a simple exposure of the truth. Their goal in the US has always been to control the narrative, deciding who gets to speak and write about the subject, so I am not in the least surprised that they try to ostracise you, whilst predictably smearing and lying about you from the comfort of their gated community. The problem with that is that they have no idea of how the debate has changed, and how attitudes have shifted away from the uncritical acceptance of their lazy ritualised dogma, which looks more and more exposed each time they wheel it out. Keep it up.

Excellent article. However, as a gay man, I would just like to comment that the idea that homosexuality is a choice is not necessarily “a myth more familiar to the tongue talking bigots of the Christian Right than the obsessively pinkwashing Israel lobby.” There’s an ongoing debate about this. I’d like to think that even if it were nothing more than a simple individual choice to live my life as a gay man, I’d still be entitled to that right. My freedom to live my life as I want should not depend on my being “born this way.”

When people don’t have justice on their side they will resort to personal attacks, twisting the truth and even projection. His calling you a Jewish Supremacist takes the cake. It’s Israel’s Jewish supremacy laws, about 50 of them, that are part of the crux of the Israeli state’s problem. These folks don’t see that by liberating Palestinians, they would be liberating Jewish Israelis too.

No Grindr dates in Hebron — that’s a new one to add to the list of grievances of oppressed Jewish Israelis in the Holy Land. God gave them the land AND the option to have a gay date WHENEVER AND WHEREVER THEY WANT. Seriously… what is up with that? Step it up, men of Hebron!

Wouldn’t the most likely answer for no Grindr dates in Hebron be that the population:

a) is too damn broke to have smart phones (is Grindr iOS only?) Note that I sort of doubt this.
b) is too religious/oppressive to publicly broadcast a homosexual “hookup” culture? Note that I sort of don’t doubt this. Particularly in light of the famous friendliness of Israel, and Tel Aviv in particular, to the LGBT community, especially in comparison to neighboring states.

C) Directly to Mr. Blumenthal, I’m curious if you’d answer a few of questions.

1) Do you think that the refusal to debate you is due to the controversial nature of your writing and a lack of desire to give it greater publicity? It’s indisputable that Peter Beinart is a bigger name than you are.

Please note that I am strongly opposed to censorship and do believe that more prominent and moderate Zionists (who are more representative of the Zionist body politic) should engage you in debate. My belief in this follows from Herzog/Toynbee.

2) Noting the language you used in this article. The Guardian has written about the necessity of sachel in reporting on matters concerning Zionism and Jewry: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2011/nov/06/averting-accusations-of-antisemitism-guardian?commentpage=1

In both this post and your other writings, you make a point of using notably controversial language. I’m curious if you’d like to address the idea that there is a significant problem relating to the potential use of loaded language.

An example: “With Washington closed off to anyone to the left of AIPAC, I argued, the only available recourse was a campaign of massive external pressure against Israel organized among global civil society, with BDS as its central tactic.”

This would appear to me to be, dovishly, something in line with the Walt/Mearsheimer (how about that Gilad Atzmon?) hypothesis. However, as has been written about quite a bit, a very significant percentage of official Washington – including the President – is explicitly to the left of AIPAC while still remaining Zionist in its proclivities. What say you about J Street? And what of the potential to read that sentence as something much darker?

Further you mentioned “the obsessively pinkwashing Israel lobby”. I’m curious as to what you mean by this. Is there anything wrong with Zionists who highlight Tel Aviv’s LGBT community as evidence of tolerance within Israel proper? Particularly as contrasted towards prevailing attitudes towards homosexuals throughout the rest of the region. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_by_country_or_territory#Middle_East (please also note the disparity between the Gaza and the West Bank.)

http://www.buzzfeed.com/saeedjones/76-countries-where-anti-gay-laws-are-as-bad-as-or-worse-than (yeah, it’s Buzzfeed, but it’s also well sourced.)

One other bit: “Landes homed in on Atshan, who happens to be gay, “… you might want to listen to an old George Carlin bit about this.

3) “When Zionists debate, they do so over the only issue over which they disagree: Which size cage should Palestinians inhabit?”

As a liberal Zionist who strongly supports the 2SS and the right of the Palestinian people to a sovereign nation state and self-determination, I’m curious as to what you mean by this. I don’t think that’s a fair characterization of my views, or those of most American Democrats, or the Israeli center or left.

Thanks for your time.