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Last night Israel launched a massive blow against Shuja’iya, a Palestinian neighborhood to the east of Gaza City, killing 63 people, among them 17 children. The graphic below appeared on Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s twitter feed today, offering supposed evidence that rockets were harbored in houses and mosques in the neighborhood:

Take a look inside: #Hamas uses Shuja’iya as a fortress for its weapons. #ProtectiveEdge #IsraelUnderFire pic.twitter.com/XUnZ56cGwE

Inside Shuja'iya

Inside Shuja’iya

This level of “proof” would be comical if used to settle an argument over trivia. It is actually being used to justify the killing of hundreds of Palestinian civilians, including four little boys who were playing soccer on the beach.

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James North is a Mondoweiss Editor-at-Large, and has reported from Africa, Latin America, and Asia for four decades. He lives in New York City.

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  1. can of worms on July 20, 2014, 3:32 pm

    I am coming to understand that stupidity is their best weapon. Because they know it is impossible to war with stupidity. It is a plot to completely destroy intellectual standards.

    • Donald on July 20, 2014, 3:42 pm

      “It is a plot to completely destroy intellectual standards.”

      Based on what I’ve seen in pro-Israel comments at the NYT, or in NYT editorials, or anywhere where people defend Israel’s actions, it’s working.

      • Shingo on July 21, 2014, 2:09 am

        Do you have a link Donald?

      • Donald on July 21, 2014, 8:39 am

        I won’t link–I’m going offline in a minute– but go to the comment sections after almost any recent NYT article on the I/P conflict, or after an editorial or opinion piece. The comments are full of idiots who parrot hasbara. Not everyone–there are sensible people too, but the number of idiots is very high. Even some clearly well-meaning people often buy into the narrative that “Hamas provoked this”. Some say that Israel has made mistakes, even bad ones, and should stop treating Palestinians so badly, but still say that Israel should clear Hamas out. Many haven’t registered the existence of the blockade or the fact that all Gazans find it intolerable. At some point (maybe even now), the killing of Gazan civilians may cause Palestinians to reach a breaking point and be willing to settle for a ceasefire with the blockade in place (I’m speculating), but at least a few days ago that wasn’t the case. But the hasbara-influenced don’t register this. They only see Hamas’s guilt in this current mess.

        So some of it is semi-innocent ignorance and some of it is flat out racism. I say “semi-innocent” because the NYT actually has done a fairly decent job reporting the facts of Israeli brutality over the past few months if one reads closely. But when they summarize the facts they invariably claim that the current violence began with Hamas provocations–shootings by Israel in May, the arrests of Hamas members in the WB and the killings there are elided out– and as for the editorial writers, they are extremely slanted, not mentioning the Israeli violence during “ceasefires” and making excuses for the killing. So the average person who doesn’t follow the story closely could easily get the wrong impression. But there are also people who think “Hamas doesn’t care about its people” is the get out of jail free card for anything Israel does.

  2. a blah chick on July 20, 2014, 3:34 pm

    It is better drawn than that cartoon bomb, I’ll give him that.

    • Kay24 on July 20, 2014, 3:42 pm

      I agree blah chick, the Butcher of TelAviv has become a deceitful character, resorting to showing cartoon pictures to wage wars.

      • Marnie on July 21, 2014, 2:26 am

        Standard practice in time of war, to resort to cartoons when you don’t have proof.

        And people will exclaim this is true because “there’s a picture of it”!
        Sick.

  3. amigo on July 20, 2014, 3:38 pm

    “This level of proof which would be comical if used to settle an argument over trivia. It is actually being used to justify the killing of hundreds of civilians, including four little boys who were playing soccer on the beach.”

    Much the same as claiming that God gave them the Greater Israel.

    Wherever that is.

    I couldn,t find it on a map anywhere.

    “The two things God forgot to give zionists is a brain and modicum of humanity.

  4. amigo on July 20, 2014, 3:47 pm

    Just an observation!!.

    Wouldn’t,t the tunnel ceiling be much lower if they stored the “Rockettes” horizontally.

    Bringing them in and out would be much easier also.

    I guess nietanyahu was never a gunner.

    • a blah chick on July 20, 2014, 4:00 pm

      I’ve got another quibble. You see that bunker on the left, wouldn’t it make more sense to have the entrance at the top rather than on the side? The whole thing looks like the diagram of an ant colony.

      Methinks this was not drawn from life.

      • amigo on July 20, 2014, 4:26 pm

        ABC, Yeah and this from the people who gave us, cell phones/the internet and Soda stream.

    • serious freier on July 20, 2014, 5:45 pm

      That’s it!!! I’ve seen this before.

      I had an ant farm just like it when I was a kid, only there was a barn instead of a mosque.

    • Penfold on July 21, 2014, 1:19 am

      I also assume that you would also want the bunker on the right hand side as well to be closer to the launcher for ease of reloading alternatively the launcher should be on the left to utilise the elevator system.

      However I think the most startling revelation there is the size of some of those rockets I had no idea Hamas had ICBMs.

      Oh and where does the tunnel go that leads out the bottom?

  5. amigo on July 20, 2014, 3:58 pm

    Honestly , this diagram looks like the work of a child.

    Only problem , is this child has access to circa 300 nukes.

  6. DaBakr on July 20, 2014, 4:14 pm

    so other then the pathetic attempts to ridicule the graphics, start pointing the so-called ‘lies’ in the graphic. Or-is it the position of the Hamas propagandists here that as a ‘technicality’ a graphic can never be used as physical proof-even though there are just as many sources of video and photographs showing the same thing as the graphic including Hamas officials admitting to using any tactic they can to avoid a strike. An empty point to make.

    • amigo on July 20, 2014, 4:29 pm

      dabakr.

      Nothing wrong with using graphics but it is used here to justify genocide.

      Go back to your air head shelter.

    • John O on July 20, 2014, 4:48 pm

      Using graphics like these to illustrate (let alone justify) matters of life and death invites ridicule. Of course, if you can direct us to a photograph of a mosque in Gaza with a load of rockets stored (vertically) in an upper room, a guy with an AK47 on guard while other guys kneel in prayer, and some tunnels underneath with more rockets and guys with AK47s, then I’ll eat my words. Until then I’ll conclude that this cartoon is the sort of racist publication that can get you put in jail in civilized countries.

    • Justpassingby on July 20, 2014, 4:51 pm

      There are proof? Lol why then does israel show cartoons? What a joke!

    • Kay24 on July 20, 2014, 5:15 pm

      The majority in the world will not buy it. Bibi also had that wonderful presentation at the UN with the road runner bomb, which also backfired and made him look like goofy. Time he his team told him to quit, because this one is the one that led to the massacre in Gaza. Ugly.

      • Tuyzentfloot on July 20, 2014, 5:37 pm

        The majority in the world will not buy it.

        I disagree. I think a common reaction is that whatever Israel claims about Hamas is believed, but the main reaction currently is that Israel’s reaction is disproportionate.

        Still, emotionally the shift away from Israel could be much more thorough than the last time.

      • Kay24 on July 20, 2014, 7:55 pm

        Going by the fiasco with the cartoon bomb at the UN, no nation took him seriously, and the majority (maybe except for Micronesia) supports the US push for peace talks over attacking Iran, which Bibi was salivating for.
        Considering the reactions around the world, the peace protests, the intellects calling for an arms embargo on Israel, and calls for boycotts, the longer this war takes, the more the horrible news and pictures of little babies being blown up, and little boys being blown up, while playing soccer, the world is going to disbelieve the cartoons, and look negatively at the occupier.

      • piotr on July 21, 2014, 12:36 am

        Actually, it would be nice if a correspondent of Mondoweiss visited Palau, Marshall Islands etc. and collected opinions about Israel. 90% of their budget is decided by US Congress. I recall that once there was a budget stalemate, “government shutdown”, and on that occasion the islanders missed some UN vote important for Israel. No cash, no vote.

      • DaBakr on July 20, 2014, 5:51 pm

        @ky
        “the majority in the world will not buy it”…Fortunately, Israel doesn’t rely on ‘world public opinion’ in deciding how and when to go after a group that has stockpiled 1000s of missiles to fire at it indiscriminately.

        Also-so-called ‘world opinion’ counts for exactly …zero. World opinion usually favours results over the standard hysteria. And while you can accuse Israel of every immoral crime in the book there is nothing moral about a leadership choosing to spend its entire budget on building tunnels and smuggling in rockets instead of protecting their citizens first.

      • Kay24 on July 20, 2014, 7:57 pm

        I agree rogue states like Israel do not give a fig for world opinion, international laws, world condemnation, or refrain from resorting to brutality and massacres, because of it.

        Israel only cares for world opinion, when it has to look for aid, weapons, and support at the UN. Then the little parasite wants world love.

        So true.

      • eljay on July 20, 2014, 8:34 pm

        >> And while you can accuse Israel of every immoral crime in the book …

        No point in that. Instead, hold Israel accountable for every (war) crime it has committed and every (war) crime it continues to commit.

        >> … there is nothing moral about a leadership choosing to spend its entire budget on building tunnels and smuggling in rockets instead of protecting their citizens first.

        1. There is nothing moral about the leadership of a supremacist state choosing to maintain an occupation for over 60 years and to put its own citizens in harm’s way by settling them in occupied territories.

        2. If Hamas were to stop building tunnels and smuggling in rockets, how would the citizens of Gaza be better protected from Israel?

      • Marnie on July 21, 2014, 2:36 am

        No you’re dead wrong. UNFORTUNATELY, Israel doesn’t rely on “world public opinion”. If they did, there might actually be peace in this region. So I think israel does not rely on world opinion because they don’t want peace, only piece – a piece of this, a piece of that and if Palestinians die in the process, we’ll rub the holocaust in your face, even though you weren’t even born when it happened and agree that it was a terrible crime against humanity. The holocaust is not a rubber stamp for the actions of the so-called government of the “state” of israel! Zionism is straight out criminality.

    • on July 20, 2014, 5:43 pm

      Come on DeBakr. A little common sense. If Israel had “many sources of video and photographs showing the same thing as the graphic” you and I both know we would have been shown them. To present as proof a drawing is mind boggling.

      • DaBakr on July 20, 2014, 5:55 pm

        why would I waste time linking to the dozens of videos showing Hamas officials readily admitting to stockpiling missiles in and around civilian areas and videos showing the tunnels, missile launching rooms in houses, mosques and clinics? The standard answer here would alsways be -“its just the Zionist hasbarists doctoring a video” Go to Memri of you want to see what Arabs say about Jews, Hamas says about its missiles and what they tell their citizens to do to ‘resist’ the ‘zionist entity’. Memri is obviously too much video proof for you to take.

      • on July 20, 2014, 6:03 pm

        I see you are now changing your claim from Israel has “many sources of video and photographs showing the same thing as the graphic” to “..dozens of videos showing Hamas officials readily admitting to stockpiling missiles”.

        Can I assume you are now backing off on your original assertion?

      • amigo on July 20, 2014, 6:17 pm

        “Memri is obviously too much video proof for you to take.” dabakr

        “Middle East Media Research Institute
        Not-for-profit organization
        The Middle East Media Research Institute is a not for profit press monitoring organization with headquarters in Washington, D.C. MEMRI publishes and distributes free English language translations of … Wikipedia
        Founded: 1998
        Founders: Yigal Carmon, Meyrav Wurmser”

        Why not quote CAMERA and double down on the joke.

        “The standard answer here would alsways be -”its just the Zionist hasbarists doctoring a video” dabakr.

        Nah, zionists don,t doctor videos.How could anyone even suggest that.Dirty antisemites and Jew haters.

      • annie on July 20, 2014, 9:36 pm

        why would I waste time linking to the dozens of videos showing Hamas officials readily admitting to stockpiling missiles in and around civilian areas

        so that would be a no. you have nothing.

      • Qualtrough on July 20, 2014, 10:36 pm

        Where did members of European resistance groups hide their weapons and supplies during WWII? That’s a rhetorical question because it is well known that they hid them wherever they thought they might not be found, and that sometimes included churches, homes, schools, etc. Will you come out here and say that was wrong? If not, why not?

      • Talkback on July 21, 2014, 10:23 am

        Hey DaBkr, how would Israel deal with them, if they were Jewish?

      • Marnie on July 21, 2014, 2:39 am

        What’s worse is that the rest of the world isn’t demanding any proof and is apparently satisfied with cartoons. The WDM war cry for invading Iraq, which turned out to be an absolute false flag, has already been forgotten? What is being put in everyone’s drinking water? Soma?

    • Shingo on July 20, 2014, 10:16 pm

      Anyone can draw a graphic Dabakar. Do you remember those lovely illustrations leading up the Iraq war if mobile chem weapons labs?
      http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Powell_UN_Iraq_presentation,_alleged_Mobile_Production_Facilities.jpg

      There was one problem. They didn’t exist.

      And do you remember the illustrations if the elaborate underground Bin Laden underground fortress replete with truck lifts and loading docks? The one that Rmmy told us there were many of?
      http://www.infotextmanuscripts.org/bin-ladens-cave.gif

      Didn’t exist either.

      Not did Bibbi’s hand drawn cartoon bomb.

      This one looks no more credible.

      • piotr on July 21, 2014, 12:43 am

        I would say that the artwork is much better than in “Spy vs spy” that inspired the cartoon presented in UN. On the other hand, I could draw like that too, and in my entire elementary school carrier I never got more than C in art. In particular, this is not drawn at all, just a collection of downloaded “art” pasted in.

    • Mooser on July 22, 2014, 11:34 am

      DaBakr, how can the Rockettes perform in a low tunnel? Israel must rescue the Rockettes!

  7. Justpassingby on July 20, 2014, 4:50 pm

    IDF soldier caught by palestinians just reported.

  8. Tuyzentfloot on July 20, 2014, 4:57 pm

    There’s a whole series of them, Neve Gordon and Nicola Perugini have an article about it at http://antiwar.com/blog/2014/07/20/on-human-shielding-in-gaza/.
    I think it could be effective , not just by itself but because it works on a familiar theme. I imagine that the human shields theme can be successful in turning black into white. You bomb a school and the public’s reaction is to ‘ooh those nasty Hamasians who use a school as human shield.’ Nuanced commentators will offer a balanced view with on the one hand Hamas using human shields with Israel grossly overreacting, a kind of thinking that I think manages to be wrong on too many counts.

  9. Jon66 on July 20, 2014, 5:52 pm

    There was a report last week fron UNWRA that they had found missles hidden inside a school which they asked Hamas to move.

    • amigo on July 20, 2014, 6:20 pm

      “There was a report last week fron UNWRA” jon 66

      We all know those people at UNWRA are liars.

      Right jon 66.

    • just on July 20, 2014, 6:26 pm

      Where does Israel hide their massive arsenals of WMDs, tanks, aircraft, drones, missiles, and other war making junk?

      Nukes?

    • Tuyzentfloot on July 20, 2014, 6:35 pm

      Yes, the UNRWA statement is here : http://www.unrwa.org/newsroom/press-releases/unrwa-strongly-condemns-placement-rockets-school .

      Now if you have a one time statement from UNRWA that this is the first time they find rockets in one of their vacant schools, what does this say about the general practices of Hamas – assuming the rockets were placed there by Hamas people?

      It says that this instance was an exception. Now the human shields issue covers a whole spectrum from ‘doing everything to put civilians at risk’ to ‘going out of your way to avoid putting civilians at risk’. From the Goldstone report about operation Cast Lead it was clear that Hamas does not try to increase the risk for civilians of Gaza.

      [edit] and look here, Ali Abunimah has done a thorough job http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/isolated-weapons-find-vacant-unrwa-school-cannot-justify-israels-gaza-slaughter
      During Cast Lead there was huge damage to schools, and no cases of Hamas using them as weapons caches.

    • Shingo on July 20, 2014, 10:19 pm

      There was a report last week fron UNWRA that they had found missles hidden inside a school which they asked Hamas to move.

      Old story. The school was empty/abandoned and UNWRA said it was the first time it has ever happened.

  10. RoHa on July 20, 2014, 7:34 pm

    I’m not convinced.
    That graphic does not show the Hamas super-computer which develops evil plots. It does not show the pipe organ at which the leader of Hamas sits and plays (rather discordantly) Bach’s Toccata and Fugue in D minor*, to the accompaniment of his own manic laughter.

    Without those details, how can we believe such an incomplete picture?

    (*BWV 565)

    • philweiss on July 20, 2014, 9:08 pm

      Flashin the ivories there!

      • just on July 20, 2014, 9:34 pm

        Many thanks for that.

      • Walid on July 21, 2014, 1:29 am

        Just, if you liked that, you’d like even more the historic recording of it by Albert Schweitzer in 1935 or the more upbeat jazzy version by the Jacques Loussier trio in 1959 on piano:

      • W.Jones on July 21, 2014, 1:25 am

        Excellent music.

      • Walid on July 21, 2014, 1:49 am

        and if you like circus acts; a little more fun than Tom Hanks doing chopsticks:

      • Mooser on July 22, 2014, 11:39 am
      • Mooser on July 22, 2014, 11:48 am

        A “toccata” you want? Here you go, and may it bring you much nachos

        Yes, there is no bass player, that’s the organist, in real time.

  11. concernedhuman on July 20, 2014, 9:07 pm

    That is SOLID evidence, if presented at ICC nutinyhaoo can get Hamas hanged.

    IDF are as dumb as hasbara .

    The International Community should ask for a swift investigation in to bombings of homes in gaza by a independent team.

    • Kay24 on July 21, 2014, 9:41 am

      I agree hasbarats are dumb, that is why they have to be paid, to spew propaganda drilled into their brains, so that they can, without any deep thought spew it in website, and get their behinds kicked when commenters bring the real facts out, with links to the truth. They then resort to personal attacks, that makes THEM look vicious and wrong. They only feel at home in their own right wing, hate filled websites, where like minded brainless minions agree to everything they say, and that is based in racism and hatred for those who are not their own.

  12. michelle on July 20, 2014, 10:19 pm

    .
    looks like an ACME poster

    as to the hospital bombing
    in the Israel eye it might have
    looked like a place for shield production
    ….
    there once was an elephant and an ant
    the ant steped on the elephants toe
    the elephant said with tears in his eyes
    why don’t you pick on someone your size
    .
    boom boom
    ain’t it great to be crazy
    boom boom
    ain’t it great to be crazy
    silly and foolish all day long
    boom boom
    ain’t it great to be crazy ….
    .
    these ‘silly stories’ couldn’t be ‘sold’
    to children, would that the children should lead
    .
    if our leaders sought the councel of their young
    there would be no injustice there would be no wars
    .
    G-d Bless
    .

  13. Bumblebye on July 20, 2014, 10:39 pm

    UNSC meeting in closed session right now on the Gaza assault.

    • W.Jones on July 21, 2014, 1:29 am

      China’s speech was good. You can see the UNSC meeting of July 18-19 online.

  14. Accentitude on July 21, 2014, 6:59 am

    There’s something not right about that illustration. Where are the minarets that transform into missile silos?

  15. realtruth on July 21, 2014, 7:37 am

    [Palestinian rocket attacks on Israel], widely condemned for targeting civilians, have been described as terrorism by United Nations, European Union and Israeli officials, and are defined as war crimes by human rights groups Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch.

    The attacks have been condemned as war crimes, both because they usually target civilians and because the weapons’ inaccuracy would disproportionately endanger civilians even if military targets were chosen. Human Rights Watch has also condemned the attackers for firing from near residential structures, thus putting Gazan civilians at unnecessary risk. According to Israeli human rights group B’Tselem, Palestinian organizations that fire Qassam rockets openly declare that they intend to strike, among other targets, Israeli civilians. Attacks aimed at civilians are immoral and illegal, and the intentional killing of civilians is a grave breach under the Fourth Geneva Convention, a war crime, and cannot be justified, whatever the circumstances. Furthermore, Qassam rockets are themselves illegal, even when aimed at military objects, because the rockets are so imprecise and endanger civilians in the area from which the rockets are fired as well as where they land, thus violating two fundamental principles of the laws of war: distinction and proportionality.
    Gaza summer camps teach kids to fire rockets
    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3575660,00.html

    • Shingo on July 21, 2014, 9:07 am

      [Palestinian rocket attacks on Israel], widely condemned for targeting civilians, have been described as terrorism by United Nations, European Union and Israeli officials, and are defined as war crimes by human rights groups Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch.

      Sorry, but you can’t claim they are targeting civilians while admitting the rockets cannot be targeted.

      Human Rights Watch has also condemned the attackers for firing from near residential structures, thus putting Gazan civilians at unnecessary risk.

      Finkelstein has attacked hypocrisy for describing ISrael’s attacks on civilians as collective punishment while singling out ineffectual Hamas rocket attacks as war crimes.

      Attacks aimed at civilians are immoral and illegal, and the intentional killing of civilians is a grave breach under the Fourth Geneva Convention, a war crime, and cannot be justified, whatever the circumstances.

      ISrael is in far graver breach of this than Hamas, especially given they have actually killed hundreds of civilians

      Furthermore, Qassam rockets are themselves illegal, even when aimed at military objects, because the rockets are so imprecise and endanger civilians in the area from which the rockets are fired as well as where they land, thus violating two fundamental principles of the laws of war: distinction and proportionality.

      That’s complete rubbish. There is no requirement for any ordinance to be precise. If that were true, then cluster munitions and land mines would be illegal.

      According to Israeli human rights group B’Tselem, Palestinian organizations that fire Qassam rockets openly declare that they intend to strike, among other targets, Israeli civilians.

      As do Israelis. In fact, Naftali Bennet openly admits the Israelis are unleashing a genocide on the Palestinians, but blames the victims.
      http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7760/1663/1600/kids_racism.0.jpg

      I suspect we will not be seeing you again Hasbara nut job.

      Gaza summer camps teach kids to fire rockets

      Israel summer camps teach kids to drop bombs on other children.
      http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7760/1663/1600/kids_racism.0.jpg

      • Kris on July 21, 2014, 11:32 am

        @Shingo, “I suspect we will not be seeing you again Hasbara nut job.”

        Since this was realtruth’s first and only comment here, you are probably right. These Hasbara people are having to spread themselves pretty thin.”

      • Shingo on July 21, 2014, 5:46 pm

        Another one time troll has pooped up with the name TruthSeeker420 and will probably never be again heard from either.

        I guess the previous 419 versions still had bugs.

      • CloakAndDagger on July 21, 2014, 6:00 pm

        Some of these are software generated posts from megaphone (I call these megaphonies).

      • Mooser on July 22, 2014, 11:44 am

        “I guess the previous 419 versions still had bugs.”

        For some reason not fully understood by me, “420” seems to refer to pot smoking.

  16. amigo on July 21, 2014, 9:38 am

    AJ Reporting that Al Aqsa Hospital hit and told to evacuate everybody.

    Spinmeister Regev gets a good grilling from Sami at AJ.

    Hanan Ashrawi puts forward the Palestinian case, very eloquently and precisely.

    Israel is gone completely insane.

    Where is Abass.

    Why is he not on a plane to the ICC with the necessary documents to have these war criminals charged and tried.

    Oddly enough , the same actions are being carried out in Donesk.The Ukranian Army is telling separatists to get out of the city or they will be attacked.

    “He/she who waits also serves”.

    In the rogue state,s case they also die.

    • just on July 21, 2014, 10:00 am

      How in the world can they keep getting away with hitting hospitals???

      “The Ministry of Health said the army fired missiles into the Al-Aqsa Hospital, in Central Gaza, killing four Palestinians, and injuring 40 others. Ambulances also came under direct Israeli fire while trying to move patients to Shifa medical center.”

      http://www.imemc.org/article/68555

      How can any single Israeli or hasbarist or US person defend this?

      • Shingo on July 21, 2014, 10:11 am

        How can any single Israeli or hasbarist or US person defend this?

        With this crap.

        A senior IDF officer reports that “terrorists” in Gaza are transporting themselves around Gaza via ambulances with children in them, to avoid being targeted by the IDF. (source Jewish Press)

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