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The devastating earthquake in Nepal has provided Israel with an opportunity to demonstrate its prowess in saving lives. In a reversal of what it does in Gaza, Israel has rushed across a border to help people whose houses and lives have been devastated.

The Israeli effort showed up on BBC this morning– saving a woman who hadn’t gotten medical attention in four days. And Israeli army efforts have been on NPR too. I’m sure the Israeli army has shown up on the cables, helping; it usually does.

But if by any chance you missed the Israeli army on the media, you can always find it promoting itself on twitter. Two days ago Israeli Army spokesman Peter Lerner celebrated the birth of a boy at an Israeli field hospital in Nepal. And today the Israeli army celebrates the birth of a baby girl.

Israel’s Foreign Minister who in his day job has called for beheading Palestinians who are disloyal to Israel has pledged to rebuild an entire village in Nepal:

“After consulting with various departments in the Foreign Ministry, we decided to adopt a village in Nepal, to assist with its reconstruction and to do our utmost to help people who have really found themselves in a difficult situation,” [Israeli Foreign Minister Avigdor] Liberman told reporters in the ministry’s situation room.

The Israeli army, the IDF, is promoting its efforts in the country:

Stay up to date on our humanitarian mission in Nepal – Follow @IDFrescue

To which Tom Joad responded, “I’m more interested in your inhuman mission in #Palestine, but nice try”. And WFLang said:

you are the only country involved keeping up a running commentary on how great you are

A twitter feed called IDF Rescue is putting up lots of fotos of its efforts:

More than manpower – Search & Rescue teams are operating with their dogs to locate survivors in #Nepal

Though we’d never urge Israel not to carry out these helpful efforts, why is it patting itself on the back so much? Well because it has an international p.r. problem, it’s becoming isolated internationally. Think of it as “disaster-washing.” Really, it should extend the same compassion to the Palestinians under occupation and siege.

We have been cynical about these undertakings before, say when Israel went to help the Philippines after the typhoon in 2013. It’s hard not to be, when Israel promotes the hell out of these efforts. “Our commitment is not national – it’s universal,” the Israeli army said in a baldfaced lie then, taking a break from occupation.

The media could use a bit of this cynicism itself. NPR did a story on a gay Israeli couple who paid a Nepalese surrogate mother to carry their child. Surrogates for gay parents are not allowed in Israel. The story featured all Israel’s efforts to help Nepal:

Israel did indeed do a lot. It sent a field hospital and search and rescue teams to help overall rescue efforts. The government also sent helicopters to remote spots in Nepal to rescue stranded Israeli hikers. It has brought scores of Israelis home, including some two dozen babies born to surrogates.

Now pressure is building to bring surrogates who are still pregnant to Israel…

NPR revisted the surrogate story again a day later. It emphasized the control of marriage by rabbinical authorities inside Israel, but generally characterized Israel as a bustling democracy. Debra Kamin of Time Magazine said:

Like all good stories in Israel, it is a very fierce debate with very passionate views on both sides…. Surrogacy, like many things in Israel, including marriage and funeral rites, is controlled by the rabbinical courts. So even though Israel is a democracy, the Jewish rabbinical courts control parts of the life process.

In Haaretz, Asher Schechter points out that Israel is doing nothing to rebuild Gaza, large sections of which it demolished last summer with enormous loss of life, much worse than Nepal on a strict square-mile basis:

Israel’s effectiveness and empathy wins it new fans from all quarters.

But not if the disaster strikes 70 kilometers down the coast from Tel Aviv, and if Israel is its direct cause.

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  1. Bill in Maryland
    Bill in Maryland
    May 1, 2015, 11:01 am

    Thanks Phil. The tireless Israeli p.r. machine also managed to get a Washington Post reporter to write about the gay Israeli couple and Israel’s disaster relief efforts in a story that appeared today- link here.

  2. Froggy
    Froggy
    May 1, 2015, 11:01 am

    What about the surrogate mothers, the women who have just given birth? Are they just being left to cope as best they can without proper medical care?

    • eGuard
      eGuard
      May 1, 2015, 1:47 pm

      The Israeli surrogate-mother industry has moved from India to Nepal, recently. After the earthquake Israel send a 747 to export 15 such babies (making a ‘rescued’ total of 26). Some mothers could join, but they won’t enjoy a long stay in Israel of course. (Time)

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius
      Maximus Decimus Meridius
      May 1, 2015, 4:35 pm

      According to what I have read, yes.

  3. irishmoses
    irishmoses
    May 1, 2015, 11:12 am

    “Disaster Washing”?

    • Mooser
      Mooser
      May 1, 2015, 4:12 pm

      A whole cloth is not an easy thing to keep clean. Dry clean only, it shrinks badly each time it’s washed.

      • irishmoses
        irishmoses
        May 1, 2015, 10:29 pm

        Hmm, From what fabric would this whole cloth derive? Certainly not a natural or organic fabric. I suspect a fabrication.

  4. johneill
    johneill
    May 1, 2015, 11:20 am

    “So even though Israel is a democracy, the Jewish rabbinical courts control parts of the life process.” This describes similar democratic principles held by Iran. This describes theocracy.
    Otherwise, I don’t think it’s necessarily problematic that they extol their rescue efforts; it’s a little moral grandstanding that the IDF doesn’t get away with too often, so they take advantage.
    Over the summer I saw several stories in Nepali newspapers about agricultural technology workshops hosted in Israel for students and CEOs and etc. aimed at growing the subsistence-level farming in Nepal, but no doubt held on stolen land. They try to help – as long as those being helped don’t pose an ‘existential threat’. Promoting that help is a (kind of tasteless) distraction, but their hasbara needs to shift away from the Jew=good, Arab=bad that has done so much for growing BDS.
    That being said, any work to help rescue people, deliver necessities, and rebuild towns and villages should be embraced. If only anybody beyond the corrupt local government helped the thousands displaced by the nearly annual floods..

    • a blah chick
      a blah chick
      May 1, 2015, 3:09 pm

      I think we can stipulate the any help in these situations is good but Israel is not there to help, they are there to get good PR pictures. If they really wanted to help they would keep their people there for the long haul and not pull out after two weeks. Also if they REALLY cared about saving lives how about they lift the siege of Gaza. They did not need to fly thousands of miles to find a humanitarian disaster.

      • johneill
        johneill
        May 2, 2015, 2:07 am

        Rebuilding a village and searching for survivors isn’t help? I prefer not to be cynical in situations like this. Again, they’re terrible humanitarians at home, but still, for the moment, they are trying to help.

      • CigarGod
        CigarGod
        May 2, 2015, 9:49 am

        It isn’t cynicism. It is PR for the choir…and a thumb in the eye of critics.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius
      Maximus Decimus Meridius
      May 1, 2015, 4:37 pm

      Ask Nepalese hotel owners and tour bus operators what they think of Israeli tourists and their obnoxious, culturally insensitive behaviour.

  5. Steve Grover
    Steve Grover
    May 1, 2015, 11:25 am

    Oh Phil…your fans know the real reason for this “aid” is so the Zionist regime can occupy Nepal to force the women there to become surrogate mothers to make more Zionists. Because that is what Israel is. Its an occupier! Even the bathroom doors say occupied!

    • a blah chick
      a blah chick
      May 1, 2015, 11:59 am

      Instead of engaging in snark that falls flat how about explaining why Gay-friendly Israel won’t let these people hire surrogates in Israel.

    • John O
      John O
      May 1, 2015, 12:42 pm

      It’s not the aid, it’s the bragging. That, and the irony.

      • bintbiba
        bintbiba
        May 1, 2015, 1:14 pm

        They really take the for Prize for Total Subtlety !!

        Just like a sledgehammer !

    • eljay
      eljay
      May 1, 2015, 1:03 pm

      || Steve Grover: … Because that is what Israel is. Its an occupier! Even the bathroom doors say occupied! ||

      Yup, they stole it all and left the Palestinians without a pot to piss in.

      It never occurred to me to compare Israel to a malodorous WC. Interesting.

    • talknic
      talknic
      May 1, 2015, 1:13 pm

      Steve Grover ” the real reason for this “aid” is so the Zionist regime can occupy Nepal to force the women there to become surrogate mothers to make more Zionists. “

      If you say so. No one else has. Weird stuff!

      “Because that is what Israel is. Its an occupier! “

      That’s what the UNSC says in numerous UNSC resolutions affording Israel the opportunity (which Israel has ignored) to comply with the binding Law, UN Charter and relative conventions those resolutions emphasize and re-affirm.

      1. Reaffirms the overriding necessity to end the prolonged occupation of Arab territoriesoccupied by Israel since 1967, including Jerusalem;

      2. Strongly deplores the continued refusal of Israel, the occupying Power, to comply with the relevant resolutions of the Security Council and the General Assembly;

      3. Reconfirms that all legislative and administrative measures and actions taken byIsrael, the occupying Power, which purport to alter the character and status of the Holy City of Jerusalem have no legal validity and constitute a flagrant violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War and also constitute a serious obstruction to achieving a comprehensive, just and lasting peace in the Middle East;

      Which is BTW what Iran says http://wp.me/pDB7k-W8

    • Kris
      Kris
      May 1, 2015, 2:08 pm

      Maybe less is more, Steve Grover, especially when you’re talking about Israel’s “help” to disaster victims. Mum should be the word from hasbarists, because when people think about israel’s “help” to non-Jews, they can’t help thinking about Gaza, and also about the very poor country (Cuba) which is overwhelmingly more generous in helping the poor of the world than is Israel.

      Do you really want to remind people that Israel is self-aggrandizing and cheap? If you are religious, you might want to think about Israel in light of your faith.

      Here’s a little about Cuba’s aid to the earthquake victims in Haiti (oddly enough, all we heard about was Israel’s week or two of comparatively paltry aid):

      “Since the earthquake, we have treated 347,601 people and performed 8,870 surgeries. We have delivered 1,631 babies and vaccinated 74,493 people.

      “The post-earthquake work is very complex, with large numbers of injured people to treat. Rehabilitation services have been provided to 75,013 people. So far, 75 people have received prostheses to replace lost limbs. Psychosocial treatment is also needed for survivors. 116,000 children, for example, are receiving some form of psychosocial assistance.

      “Rodent and mosquito control in communities and in the survivor camps is an important part of our work, too.

      “The Brigade established 44 cholera treatment units (complete with testing laboratories) and 23 cholera treatment centers. Those numbers are today at 45 and two, respectively. We also have 46 cholera detection units in operation in communities.

      “Our total number of patients in the first year of the epidemic was 76,130. Thirty percent of those were under the age of 15. We suffered 272 deaths in the areas we were serving, but we are very proud to report that we have had no deaths in the past 267 days. Our mortality rate from cholera has declined to 0.36% per patient, compared to the country-wide rate of 1.41%.

      “RA: So give us a summary of Cuba’s medical presence in Haiti today.

      “JBE: At present we have 786 Cuban doctors and health workers in Haiti, and we are working with an additional 21 from Latin American countries. Since the earthquake, we have received U.S. $23 million in financial assistance from international donors.

      “We have 23 communal (provincial) hospitals in operation and ten comprehensive diagnostic centers (operated in cooperation with Venezuela). We have a total of 30 rehabilitation rooms. There are 28 active epidemiological surveillance and control programs (surveying for such threats as malaria and dengue). There are 12 health (family doctor) centers and we are planning to build a laboratory for producing prostheses and three electrotechnical workshops (for equipment maintenance and repair). Two Operation Miracle clinics are still in operation and we are providing technical advice as well as vaccines for vaccination programs.[2]

      “RA: Could you say a few words about your personal experiences?

      “JBE: I work at the field hospital in Leogane (west of Port au Prince, the epicenter of the earthquake). Our work is very complex. I would like to give you an idea of the scope and complexity of the treatment we provide to our patients.

      “We have to deliver medical services. We have treated some 48,00 patients and performed 500 surgeries and 150 deliveries.

      “We have fitted 70 amputees with prostheses. The patients require constant care and follow, including because as a child or adolescent grows, or as a wound heals from an amputation heals, the prosthesis is outgrown and must be replaced. So we must equip ourselves with the capacity to make new ones.

      “Children and new mothers require special care. We have a lot of activities to occupy the children and help to heal their psychological wounds.

      “Our work is performed in tents, so we must take special care to keep everything hygienic. (There is a very good hospital building in Leogane that is underutilized but we have been unable to come to an agreement to help open up the unused sections of the facility.)

      “Food and clean water must be supplied, not only for our hospital but also for the surrounding community, as needed. Everything we do we must insert training of student doctors or health workers. And we must conduct health promotion and education among the population we are serving.

      “So you see, these are very challenging conditions in which we are working.”

      https://fah451bks.wordpress.com/2014/07/18/cubas-health-care-miracle-in-haiti-one-of-the-worlds-best-kept-secrets-cuban-medical-aid-to-haiti-leadership-education-solidarity-struggle-serve-the-people/

      More good info about Cuba’s outstanding acts of charity and mercy in Haiti: https://books.google.com/books?id=jpth3rqbAXIC&pg=PA138&lpg=PA138&dq=cuban+medical+aid+to+haiti&source=bl&ots=F4z7NJIJnT&sig=tFdZsL6z3qJfrb4_kkYJKsTNcDo&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Xp0-VfSaJtGvogT63YHYCA&ved=0CFIQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=cuban%20medical%20aid%20to%20haiti&f=false

      • Marnie
        Marnie
        May 1, 2015, 2:21 pm

        And Cuba does this without billions of American dollars at their disposal or hasbarists working 24/7 to say how great they are.

    • Mooser
      Mooser
      May 1, 2015, 4:17 pm

      “the real reason for this “aid” is so”

      The word “aid” does not appear in the article.

    • bryan
      bryan
      May 2, 2015, 4:56 am

      How can this possibly create more Zionists? Israel is the state of the Jewish nation; the offspring of these Nepalese surrogates will be non-Jewish, and will surely simply accentuate the demographic time-bomb which will eventually destroy Zion?

  6. Maximus Decimus Meridius
    Maximus Decimus Meridius
    May 1, 2015, 4:35 pm

    ”Like all good stories in Israel, it is a very fierce debate with very passionate views on both sides…”

    This seems to be the standard hasbara response to anyone who points out the less than liberal aspects of Israeli society. I heard the same thing recently when someone mentioned the fact that ”secular” Israel does not recognise secular marriages. ”Oh, but you see these things are fiercely debated in the vibrant democracy that is Israel”. So what? Fact remains that any Israeli who wants a non-religious wedding has to go beyond Israel’s ‘borders’ to obtain it.

  7. Bornajoo
    Bornajoo
    May 1, 2015, 5:41 pm

    They show an utter lack of empathy, compassion and humanity for those they they brutalise, control and occupy at home. Yet they are going OTT on propaganda on the aid they are giving to Nepal.

    It’s a desperate attempt to create good PR and better their rapidly disintegrating image but it’s blatantly crude, pathetic and shallow

    Interestingly, quite a few serial killers/offenders pretend to be upstanding members of the community! In fact Alexei Sayle described israel as “the Jimmy Saville of the middle east”

    • lysias
      lysias
      May 1, 2015, 6:33 pm

      In fact Alexei Sayle described israel as “the Jimmy Saville of the middle east”

      The recently deceased Lord Brittan and the still very much alive Lord Janner , against both of whom there have been very credible accusations of pedophilia and worse, have been among the foremost defenders of Israel in the UK.

  8. just
    just
    May 1, 2015, 6:02 pm

    Israel- so good of you to travel thousands of miles to aid the Nepalese for a spell! Too bad that you can’t see over the Illegal Wall that you constructed and witness the misery and devastation that you caused, and continue to cause. With that in mind, this is as good a context as any to make folks aware of this piece by Sarah Irving @ EI today:

    “In 2003, young Palestinian artist Annemarie Jacir had spent years trying to trace a group of resistance filmmakers who, in the 1970s and early 1980s, had devoted their talents to their people’s struggle.

    Finally, during the 2003 “Dreams of a Nation” film festival in Palestine, she was able to bring together some of those directors and producers and their works. In the case of one 25-minute drama-documentary called They Do Not Exist, it was the film’s first ever screening in Palestine. It was also the first time its director, Mustafa Abu Ali, one of the founders of the PLO’s film unit, had seen his work in two decades.

    Now, the film has been made freely available in versions on YouTube or Vimeo.

    Abu Ali’s 1974 film depicts the final days of the Palestinian refugee camp of Nabatia, which was founded to house those fleeing the 1948 Nakba, or establishment of the State of Israel. The south Lebanon camp was destroyed by the Israelis in 1974. The surviving refugees were mostly moved to Ein al-Hilwe camp. …”

    Nothing has changed. It’s only gotten worse, if possible. It’s eerie and soul- searing and more.

  9. iResistDe4iAm
    iResistDe4iAm
    May 1, 2015, 11:59 pm

    Sadly, Nepal is the latest of many natural disasters, but Palestine is the world’s longest (67 years) Israeli-made UNNATURAL disaster.

    According to the United Nations, as of 4 August 2014, at least 122 families had lost three or more family members in the same incident since Israel began its July assault on Gaza.

    Entire Palestinian families have been WIPED OUT by Israel. Some examples:
    – 25 members of the Abu Jamea family, including 18 children.
    – 20 members of the Al-Najar family, including 11 children.
    – 18 members of the al-Batsh family, including 6 children.
    – 16 members of the Abu Amer family, including 4 children.
    – 16 members of the Abu Jabber family, including 4 children.
    – 13 members of the al-Agha family, including 4 children.
    – 11 members of the Balata family, including 4 children.
    – 11 members of the Hilo family (# of children not reported).
    – 10 members of the al-Ghoul family, including 3 children.
    – 10 members of the al-Astal family, including 3 children.
    – 10 members of the al-Qassas family, including 6 children.
    – at least 111 other families who lost 3-9 family members.
    http://imeu.org/article/israels-mass-killing-of-palestinian-families-in-gaza

    Gaza counts the cost of war: ‘Whole families smashed under the rubble’
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/15/-sp-gaza-counts-cost-of-war-whole-families-smashed-under-the-rubble

    Israeli forces displayed ‘callous indifference’ in deadly attacks on family homes in Gaza
    https://www.amnesty.org/en/articles/news/2014/11/israeli-forces-displayed-callous-indifference-deadly-attacks-family-homes-gaza/

  10. jon s
    jon s
    May 2, 2015, 3:18 am

    I suppose I shouldn’t be too surprised that noone here has a good word to say.

    Phil is nice enough to write: “Though we’d never urge Israel not to carry out these helpful efforts” …admitting, at least that Israeli aid is helpful.

    We are now one week after the quake:
    -IDF Medical Corps has a field hospital up and running, treating patients in Katmandu.
    When the team returns home the hospital won’t be dismantled, it will be left as a gift to the people of Nepal.
    -IDF Home Command has teams which participated in search and rescue missions.
    -Magen David Adom has a medical team operating there, in co-operation with the Red Cross.

    I heard somewhere that the Israeli aid mission is the biggest one there, but I don’t know if that’s true.

    Aside from that , Israeli insurance companies launched search-and-rescue missions , locating and rescuing stranded Israeli trekkers.

    • Walid
      Walid
      May 2, 2015, 3:42 am

      I suppose I shouldn’t be too surprised that noone here has a good word to say.” (jon s)

      The intention is not honourable, therefore no brownie points should be expected”

      “… But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth” (J-C)

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius
      Maximus Decimus Meridius
      May 2, 2015, 6:41 am

      A hasbara effort wouldn’t be complete without a ‘field hospital’.

      I remember literally every single hasbarist was droning on about how Israel had established a ‘field hospital’ on the ‘borders’ with Gaza during last summer’s massacre. As though treating a few carefully vetted Palestinians – probably collaborators and their families – somehow neutralised the horror. Can ‘jons’ tell us about the current status of said ‘field hospital’ or did it endure only as long as hasbara required it to endure?

      • a blah chick
        a blah chick
        May 2, 2015, 7:17 am

        The field hospital is gone. They took it down in August when the “ceasefire” went into effect.

        Interesting that hospital. There were stories that Israel pressured Palestinians to be treated there first before they could go on to Israel, that is the few that were treated in Israel. Some people refused to be treated there. When I googled “field hospital gaza Israel” one of the first stories was an article from Times of Israel, hardly a pro-Palestinisn rag, talking about how empty the hospital and how so few Palestinians went there. They blamed Hamas, of course. Another article I saw last summer said that in the 36 days the hospital was in operation they treated 51 patients.

        We don’t hear about that field hospital so I guess they didn’t get any good pictures.

      • jon s
        jon s
        May 2, 2015, 7:55 am

        Maximus,
        The Hamas terrorists didn’t allow their people to seek treatment at that field hospital.
        And when Israel wanted to treat some of the sick and wounded in Israeli hospitals, Hamas opened fire on the border-crossing and on the ambulances.

        Speaking of which, it’s not entirely true that there’s no rebuilding in Gaza.
        Hamas is rebuilding its rocket arsenal and tunnels. A question of priorities, I suppose.

        Sources:

        http://www.timesofisrael.com/iran-sent-hamas-tens-of-millions-to-rebuild-tunnels-report/

        http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/03/06/hamas-focuses-on-rebuilding-tunnels-as-gazans-suffer

      • Maximus Decimus Meridius
        Maximus Decimus Meridius
        May 2, 2015, 8:12 am

        Your sick joke of an ‘army’ bombed hospitals and rehabilitations centres.

        And now we’re supposed to praise them because they put up a few tents to make a Potemkin hospital?

        You must think the rest of the world is as hopelessly brainwashed as Israelis are.

      • Kris
        Kris
        May 2, 2015, 10:02 am

        @jon s: “The Hamas terrorists didn’t allow their people to seek treatment at that field hospital.”

        Maybe Palestinians have good reasons to refuse to be treated in IDF field hospitals, which are run by agents of Jewish Israeli state terrorism.

        Maybe they don’t want their organs to be harvested by the Israelis. Maybe they don’t want to be tortured, or forced to become collaborators.

        http://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/dec/21/israeli-pathologists-harvested-organs
        http://www.phr.org.il/default.asp?PageID=21
        http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/08/04/israel.informants/index.html?eref=rss_world

      • CigarGod
        CigarGod
        May 2, 2015, 11:34 am

        Can we get a Hamas rep to weigh in on this?
        I know they have a PIO.

      • Kris
        Kris
        May 2, 2015, 1:47 pm

        @CigarGod: “Can we get a Hamas rep to weigh in on this?”

        This is a great idea. Wish we could get the Hamas viewpoint on this many other issues, unadulterated by U.S. and Israeli spin.

    • oldgeezer
      oldgeezer
      May 2, 2015, 6:52 am

      @jon s
      “I heard somewhere that the Israeli aid mission is the biggest one there, but I don’t know if that’s true. ”

      I’ve read that too jon. According to the times of Israel that is the case. According to the same story Israel ranks on the list of countries giving aid to sustain relief efforts and provide ongoing emergency supplies in position # errr… Sorry my bad. It’s not on the list as it gave nothing.

      http://www.timesofisrael.com/israels-aid-team-to-nepal-larger-than-any-other-countrys/

      The story also points out that there are 2,000 Israelis in Nepal and added to that is it’s outsourced baby making factories. Such a large contingent doesn’t seem unusual in light of that.

      As for the donated field hospital a bunch of tents is such a gracious gift to the Nepalese people. Will they be leaving the equipment? Are they providing training to the local people and supplies to operate the equipment or will it be deployed as boat anchors?

      I’m late to the posts on this story as I didn’t see why any efforts should be denigrated really given the situation. As the story points out and, as your post confirms, the need for self aggrandizement is very great and that denigrates the efforts made more than anything else.

      They say charity begins at home. Next time try to slaughter a lot less women, children, babies, families, and innocent men amongst your neighbours.

      I will give credit where it is due. I don’t believe it was the idf but one of the private operations to rescue Israelis but nevertheless congrats on only killing one Nepalese citizen that I am aware off while rescuing Israelis and ignoring the needs, of the the local population, for emergency relief.

      • jon s
        jon s
        May 2, 2015, 3:48 pm

        Maximus,
        Please remember, next time you have the misfortune of being in a disaster zone, and in need of medical care, and the IDF mission arrives – to refuse to be treated.

        The IDF targetted facilities that were being used by the Hamas terrorists for military purposes.
        Shifa hospital ,the major Gaza hospital , was also being used (or abused…) by Hamas, but the IDF refrained from attacking it.

      • talknic
        talknic
        May 2, 2015, 6:12 pm

        @ jon s “The IDF targetted facilities that were being used by the Hamas terrorists for military purposes”

        According to Israeli propaganda anything is possible.

        Fact is, under the Laws of War, Art. 25., it’s illegal to bomb a town or village that’s un-protected. Israel NEEDS Hamas there to be able to slaughter disproportionately , despite the fact that Hamas hasn’t any weaponry capable of protecting Palestinians from Israel’s hi tech human slaughtering equipment.

        “Shifa hospital ,the major Gaza hospital , was also being used (or abused…) by Hamas”

        Sez who? jon s I’m guessing, so he can add that little extra bullsh*t ” but the IDF refrained from attacking it”

        MSF Strongly Condemns Attack on Al Shifa Hospital http://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/news-stories/press-release/gaza-msf-strongly-condemns-attack-al-shifa-hospital

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        May 7, 2015, 12:47 am

        “Please remember, next time you have the misfortune of being in a disaster zone, and in need of medical care, and the IDF mission arrives – to refuse to be treated.”

        “Jon s” why don’t you try remembering you are talking to other adults, many of them much smarter than you, and almost all more well-informed and better critical thinkers? Stop using the kind of crap you use on little kids. It would serve two purposes: You wouldn’t insult people quite so much, and you might stop making a fool of yourself.

    • Mooser
      Mooser
      May 2, 2015, 1:22 pm

      “Aside from that , Israeli insurance companies launched search-and-rescue missions”

      Always better to stem insurance fraud (My kid died in Nepal) before it’s attempted. Obviously, the insurance companies do not trust Israelis to report the deaths honestly.

      “Jon s” I don’t know what it’s going to take to convince you the average age of Mondo readers isn’t 9 to 12 years old.

      • oldgeezer
        oldgeezer
        May 3, 2015, 11:49 pm

        @Mooser

        Is that true about your kid? So sorry. I’ve buried two wives (a wife and fiance really) but not a child. That’s several order of magnitudes worse so I can’t even imagine. Sincere condolences from the heart.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        May 7, 2015, 1:08 am

        “Is that true about your kid?”

        No, it’s not true, “oldgeezer”. I apologize, too. That was some very lousy, hurried writing by me! I’m sorry it gave you that impression, and since I know your sympathy is quick, and genuine, I apologize for arousing it falsely, and causing you pain.

        So far, I’ve only had to bury parents and in-laws, and that’s bad enough. Sorry to hear about your losses, and I offer my sympathy. I’m hoping with all my heart my wife buries me, and I’ve asked her to quote Martin Luther King Jr. at my funeral. But the possibility (God, who knows?) it won’t work out like that even tho she is younger, tortures me. I don’t think I could stand it.

        The thought of her speaking the immortal words “Free at last, thank God Almighty, free at last!” as they lower Mooser into the cold, cold ground comforts me, tho.

      • oldgeezer
        oldgeezer
        May 7, 2015, 9:24 am

        @Mooser

        I’m glad to hear that. It would be horrific.

        Yes, I always believed the man should and (I) would go first. Seems like the natural order. While I don’t believe in a life after death, if I am wrong I am sure they are still shouting free at last haha.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        May 10, 2015, 12:00 am

        “While I don’t believe in a life after death,”

        Yes, my wife told me the other day that being married to me has changed her religious views considerably. She said she used to believe in Heaven but now she’s not sure if there is a life before death

    • kma
      kma
      May 3, 2015, 4:38 pm

      the ‘jon s’ response to the article is a perfect example of the point of the article.
      all the news says is that poor little Israel has to level buildings on top of thousands of civilians because it is so wonderful to do so, and that’s all you get on NPR, and hey, even NYT writers send their kids to get in on that action. what heroes!
      but the cameras won’t show that horror, in fact, they’ll be crushed, too. in contrast, Israel shoves its face in front of the lens even before it got together a trip to Nepal – I read the first one about their plans to go to Nepal!
      and now we hear that they have planted permanent hospitals there? amazing.

      the face of Israel in the media is ‘jon s’. reality is entirely different.

      • oldgeezer
        oldgeezer
        May 3, 2015, 11:48 pm

        @kma

        No not permanent hospitals. Field hospitals which are, by and large, tents. I doubt tent hospitals are frequently moved in the first instance as the cost of sanitizing and steralizing them would be prohibitive. There tends to be a lot of blood splatter around.

        jon never answered about the equipment and I don’t know the answer. I do know modern equipment is useless unless you have idle staff who know how to use it. Might make decent spares (or boat anchors) but that’s about it.

      • bintbiba
        bintbiba
        May 7, 2015, 4:22 am

        @ Mooser at 1:08am & oldgeezer at 11:49 pm

        Oooh the 2 of you !!! For once you brought tears . That is the most touching post .
        Amid the laughter and chuckling … you provide much humanism and empathy.

        And wisdom .

    • traintosiberia
      traintosiberia
      May 3, 2015, 9:48 pm

      Third world countries are the victims of various versions of an Argentinian situation.
      http://www.lobelog.com/following-the-money-the-new-anti-semitism/
      Haiti ,or Nepal are victim of natural disaster for they don’t have resources left usually due to the corruption ,IMF,WB,and the pressure of the individuals who profit personally from outside using the internal weakness of the countries,connection to the international financial organizations and sometimes using Uncle Sam’s judicial System .
      Argentina could end up like Nepal when faced with new natural calamities . Sure Israel and also Singer will send some volunteers to rescue the victims from under the rubble . Still ,even then it would constitue a great act .

      • jon s
        jon s
        May 4, 2015, 7:29 am

        old geezer, I didn’t reply because I don’t have additional information. What I heard was that the hospital, including equipment will be left as a gift.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        May 7, 2015, 1:18 am

        “What I heard was that…”

        Yes, but you never get anything right. Either you heard it wrong or you are twisting it in some way.

  11. CigarGod
    CigarGod
    May 2, 2015, 8:41 am

    Yeah, man.
    NPR is my pet peeve. Flat out propaganda all day long, every day. I abuse my radio every day.
    You could make a full time job out of calling them on it.

    • jon s
      jon s
      May 2, 2015, 3:52 pm

      Kris,
      Your ugly accusation of organ-harvesting is borrowed from the Anti-Semitic medieval blood libel.

      • Bumblebye
        Bumblebye
        May 2, 2015, 4:13 pm

        Bs jon.
        The accusation is founded on facts readily available for you to peruse at your leisure.

      • Bornajoo
        Bornajoo
        May 2, 2015, 4:18 pm

        “Kris,
        Your ugly accusation of organ-harvesting is borrowed from the Anti-Semitic medieval blood libel.”

        I have read several articles and seen quite a few documentaries about the business of international organ harvesting and guess what Jon S? Yes you guessed it, the Israelis are also world leaders in this field too. Do the research. And there are examples of rich Israeli Jews paying young Palestinians for their organs

        So you can add this to the wonderful list of Israeli achievements: mobile technology, irrigation techniques, intensive agricultural production, international organ trading, Mass murder of vulnerable innocent men women and children….i could go on.

        So Kris’ comment was far from anti semitic, it was eerily accurate. Anyway I know it won’t stop your deeply programmed brainwashed brain from continually defending the absolutely indefensible. But you never know, one day one of these truth seeds will take root in that hasbara filled brain of yours. Just a small crack is needed for some light to get in.

      • a blah chick
        a blah chick
        May 2, 2015, 4:19 pm

        Kris is more than likely referring to Dr Yehuda Hiss, who admits to harvesting organs for years without permission.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        May 7, 2015, 1:32 am

        “Your ugly accusation of organ-harvesting is borrowed from the Anti-Semitic medieval blood libel.”

        Yes, illegal organ-harvesting was a big problem in the Middle Ages, and people sometimes blamed Jews for it. Have to admit, those Middle Ages Jews sure had some advanced medical techniques, tho. Doing liver transfers in 1100AD!

        Wait a minute, what the hell am I doing? I’m throwing away a blanket immunity!
        I must be a fool!
        Think about it, is there a single thing, from murder to spitting on the sidewalk, Jews weren’t libeled with in the Middle ages? Why, the next time somebody presents me with a check of mine that bounced, I’ll just say “Your charge is borrowed from medieval fiduciary libels against the Jews! Begone, anti-Semite!”
        It should work for anything, wouldn’t you say, “Jon s”? It doesn’t matter one good goddam if the charge is true, not at all! All we have to do is maintain somebody once, somewhere, accused a Jew of that out of anti-Semitism, and boom investigation over, indictment quashed, mistrial declared, case dismissed!
        Wow, now I can do anything I want! What could go wrong? Never realized how clever you Israeli guys are. Thanks.

  12. Landie_C
    Landie_C
    May 2, 2015, 12:20 pm

    Here’s a thought.

    Why doesn’t Israel deport all those African asylum seekers, now languishing in its detention facilities, to Nepal? Maybe that way they will finally get the due process they’re entitled to under international law.

    • bintbiba
      bintbiba
      May 2, 2015, 5:34 pm

      @Bornajoo +1 ,

      “Just a small crack is needed for some light to get in” ” yes sirree ! Methinks does ring a bell !!

  13. a blah chick
    a blah chick
    May 2, 2015, 2:47 pm

    Considering how many hospitals and clinics Israel bombed into rubble the hasbarists here do not have a leg to stand on. There is eyewitness testimony to Israel targeting ambulances, fire fighters even a poor girl in her wheelchair, yet they insist that the Gaza field hospital was set up to treat the poor injured Palestinians (that they injured) and they could have treated more but the evil Hamas dudes wouldn’t let them go there. They massacred hundreds in Shujaiiya and other neighborhoods proving that they were not concerned with how many civilians they killed, and yet I’m to believe they wanted to treat them?

    IMO the field hospital was set up for two reasons: a) to provide nice pictures of the IDF birthing babies b) to recruit or touch bass with local spies.

    • irishmoses
      irishmoses
      May 2, 2015, 8:24 pm

      A Blah Chick said, “b) to recruit or touch bass with local spies.”

      I don’t know, sounds kind of fishy to me. Must be some sort of spy recognition signal, instead of a hand-slappping high five, you give them a more subtle slapping of the day’s catch.

  14. Bornajoo
    Bornajoo
    May 2, 2015, 3:21 pm

    Gideon Levy’s take on this:

    “By Gideon Levy
    Published 02:22 30.04.15

    The uniform is the same uniform. It’s the uniform whose wearers blew up hundreds of homes and schools and clinics in Gaza last summer. It’s the uniform whose wearers periodically shoot teenagers and children throwing stones and peaceful demonstrators in the West Bank. It’s the uniform that every night invades homes and brutally pulls people out of bed, often for needless and politically motivated arrests. It’s the uniform that blocks people’s freedom of movement in their own land. It’s the uniform that’s been abusing an entire people for decades.

    Now its wearers are saving lives for the cameras. The evil army in Palestine has become the salvation army in Nepal.

    The Israeli rescuers in Nepal are certainly infused with good intentions. The reserve soldiers among them told of dropping everything to join the effort. They are definitely good people who enlisted to help Israelis and Nepalese. It’s very moving to see a preemie being carried to safety by an IDF soldier.

    But we cannot forget that wearing that same uniform, the IDF kills babies by the dozens; a B’tselem report released last week listed 13 instances in which homes were blown up in Gaza, killing 31 babies and 39 children. He who did this to dozens of babies needs an intolerable measure of chutzpah to dare be photographed with a baby rescued from an earthquake and to boast of his humanitarianism.

    Because after all, boasting is the name of the game. That’s a fact. Let’s show ourselves, and particularly the rest of the world, how wonderful we are, how the IDF is really the absolutely most moral army in the world.

    “Have you seen any Iranian rescue planes?” asked a propagandist in disguise yesterday. “A model state,” “The beautiful Israel,” “The Israeli flag among the ruins,” “The pride.” “Our delegation of ministering angels represents the universal values of our people and our country,” the president said. “These are the true faces of Israel – a country prepared to assist at any distance at such moments,” the prime minister said.

    Ministering angels? The country’s true face? Perhaps. But that angelic face also has a dark, satanic side, one that kills babies, not only saves them. When that’s the case, one cannot speak of “universal values.” One cannot speak of values at all. There is simply no right to do so. To see Avigdor Lieberman, the bully who preaches at every turn to bomb, shell and destroy, speak of humanitarianism?

    There are countries that aren’t providing as much generous aid as Israel, but there isn’t a single country behaving with such hypocrisy – killing in Gaza, saving in Nepal, and presenting itself as Mother Teresa. There is no other country that so exploits every opportunity to propagandize and shower itself with syrupy, embarrassing self-adulation ad nauseam.

    Babies die in the child warehouses at the Tel Aviv central bus station not from some force majeure, but because of a cruel immigration policy. The IDF isn’t saving those babies. There was an earthquake in Gaza during Operation Protective Edge; the rubble has not been cleared to this day, and most of those who lost their homes remain homeless. No one has visited Gaza recently without being shocked to their very core. And that earthquake was manmade; it was the work of the IDF, the same IDF that’s in Nepal.

    Israel doesn’t have to go all the way to Kathmandu to save lives; it would be enough to lift the siege it imposes an hour’s drive from Tel Aviv and let Gaza be rebuilt. It would be enough to allow the 2 million people who live there a bit of freedom. It would enough to decide that during the next attack, which is inevitable, the IDF will act differently. That the same IDF now engaged in rescue will not commit more war crimes. That it will uphold international law, and perhaps even those “universal values” Israel is gloating about now. That the same IDF now hugging babies will not bomb homes with babies inside them.

    But all this is of course much harder than sending a 747 to Kathmandu and setting up the largest possible, best-equipped field hospital in front of the accompanying army of reporters, and applauding the beautiful, virtuous, moral Israel.”

    • bintbiba
      bintbiba
      May 2, 2015, 3:39 pm

      Many, many thank you’s , Bornajoo , for this Article. Gideon Levy writes with such power and passion . Always a Hero to us !!

      May he stay safe and able to continue writing his Fury , Truth and Universal Values to power !

    • just
      just
      May 2, 2015, 3:48 pm

      Thanks for posting that, Bornajoo. He gets it, and says it better than anyone I know, imho. When I read it before and now…

      He writes it in a way that punches one’s already aware gut, head, and heart ’til one’s eyes stream. I wish some Zionists/Israelis/blind supporters of the regime could see it.

  15. CigarGod
    CigarGod
    May 2, 2015, 3:27 pm

    I think there is a button to go to English, but it’s not working for me.

    http://hamas.ps/ar/

    • jon s
      jon s
      May 2, 2015, 3:58 pm

      “Let’s get a Hamas rep…”

      Contrary to what Cigargod and Kris think, this is a VERY bad idea.

      I’m not a legal expert, but as far as I know, Hamas is an illegal terrorist organization, under US law.
      Posting their official communiques and propaganda here could have serious implications.

      • Bornajoo
        Bornajoo
        May 2, 2015, 4:03 pm

        “I’m not a legal expert, but as far as I know, Hamas is an illegal terrorist organization, under US law. Posting their official communiques and propaganda here could have serious implications.”

        Dear Jon s. I can concur that you definitely are NOT a legal expert. There are many ways to describe you but legal expert ISN’T one of them

      • CigarGod
        CigarGod
        May 2, 2015, 4:07 pm

        Well, did Jimmy Carter meet with Mishal, as a private citizen?

      • talknic
        talknic
        May 2, 2015, 5:45 pm

        @ jon s

        “I’m not a legal expert, but as far as I know, Hamas is an illegal terrorist organization, under US law.
        Posting their official communiques and propaganda here could have serious implications.”

        So how do you know about their official communiques and propaganda? I guess it must be OK to post it on pro-Israeli propaganda sites

      • Kris
        Kris
        May 2, 2015, 5:45 pm

        @jon s: “Contrary to what Cigargod and Kris think, this is a VERY bad idea.”

        Uh, huh. Terrible mistake to discover exactly what Hamas says. It’s much better to let the U.S. and Israel tell us what Hamas supposedly says. They wouldn’t lie to us, would they?

        @jon s: “I’m not a legal expert, but as far as I know, Hamas is an illegal terrorist organization, under US law.”

        Well, I’m not a logician, but as far as I know, the truth of a statement doesn’t depend on who is making it. Why shouldn’t we know exactly what Hamas is saying, unadulterated and unspun? Do you support censorship?

        As a history teacher, jon-s, you must know that Nelson Mandela was on the U.S. terrorist list. Not because he was actually a “terrorist,” but because the U.S. thought Mandela was too close to the communists. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2013/12/07/why-nelson-mandela-was-on-a-terrorism-watch-list-in-2008/

        Maybe you’re thinking of recent persecutions/prosecutions by the U.S. of supposed “terrorists,” generally Muslims, like Dr. Sami al-Arian? http://www.democracynow.org/2015/2/6/exclusive_deported_palestinian_scholar_sami_al and are afraid that the editors and readers of mondoweiss will be in danger from our free-speech-loving government?

      • Landie_C
        Landie_C
        May 2, 2015, 6:31 pm

        As opposed to a “legal terrorist organization”? Are you by any chance referring to state terror committed in Gaza?

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        May 3, 2015, 6:39 pm

        “There are many ways to describe you….”

        “Jon s” I’m sorry to say, is the kind of guy my Orthodox relatives would look at and mutter “That one, he’s eine kleine nachtmusik , all right.”

      • Sibiriak
        Sibiriak
        May 5, 2015, 9:25 am

        “Carter, who cancelled a planned visit to Gaza on this trip, said Saturday he “deplored” criminal acts by members of Hamas, but said he was looking to support moderate members of the group, which he said wasn’t a terrorist organization.

        “I don’t believe that he’s a terrorist. He’s strongly in favor of the peace process,” Carter said of Hamas politburo chief Khaled Mashaal. ”

        http://www.timesofisrael.com/carter-says-hamas-leader-committed-to-peace-netanyahu-not/

  16. jon s
    jon s
    May 2, 2015, 5:09 pm

    Bornajoo, I’m not what I’m not, but I seem to recall that people have been prosecuted in the US for providing assistance to Hamas.

    Whatever the legal implications, I think that Mondoweiss is crossing a line here, in posting a link to the Hamas website.
    Would it be ok to post a link to Al Qaeda? ISIS? How about the KKK?The Aryan Brotherhood?

    • Bornajoo
      Bornajoo
      May 2, 2015, 5:27 pm

      “Whatever the legal implications, I think that Mondoweiss is crossing a line here, in posting a link to the Hamas website. Would it be ok to post a link to Al Qaeda? ISIS? How about the KKK?The Aryan Brotherhood?”

      And just how many times have you zionists posted full block quotes and links to the Hamas Charter? One of your favourite propaganda tools to justify the continuing brutal occupation and crimes against humanity.

      Hamas is no worse than the Israeli regime. One man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter

      • CigarGod
        CigarGod
        May 2, 2015, 6:49 pm

        Exactly!
        Only 30 of the worlds 100 nations classify Hamas thus, anyway. Interestingly…they are all white and western (except Japan). That should rock a little bit of your brainwashing…jon s.

      • jon s
        jon s
        May 4, 2015, 7:25 am

        There’s a difference between quoting Hamas documents and statements- which I’ve done myself- and inviting a Hamas spokesperson to use this blog as a platform.

      • CigarGod
        CigarGod
        May 4, 2015, 9:14 am

        What’s the “difference”?

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus
        May 4, 2015, 11:38 am

        jon s,

        There’s a difference between quoting Hamas documents and statements- which I’ve done myself- and inviting a Hamas spokesperson to use this blog as a platform

        You, an official propaganda agent and apologist for invasion, mass murder, genocidal practices and international terrorism, are being given unlimited use of this blog as a propaganda platform even though you don’t contribute to its purpose, to say the least. Now you have the crust to ask that a blog whose purpose is to support Palestinian resistance be closed to the resistance itself.
        Typically Zionist shamelessness and pushiness to a degree not experienced anywhere else, called chutzpah –only notable cultural contribution of the Zionist invasion.

    • CigarGod
      CigarGod
      May 2, 2015, 6:46 pm

      Hell, yes jon s!
      Do you think you can get better information from second hand or propaganda sources???
      What are you afraid of?
      It is just information.
      With it…you can maybe do a little better at determining your future…than a little frightened forest creature. Hell, I’ll take odds on a forest creature over a brainwashed zionist.

    • Mooser
      Mooser
      May 3, 2015, 6:43 pm

      “I think that Mondoweiss is crossing a line here, in posting a link to the Hamas website.”

      Nobody except you “Jon s” says that Mondo does that or is going to do it. But now it’s become a fact? “is crossing a line”? Well, well, put it on Mondo’s ‘permanent record’!

      My, oh my, I can just imagine what it’s like to have you for a teacher.

      • CigarGod
        CigarGod
        May 3, 2015, 10:41 pm

        Jon s is probably telling all his friends that cigargod is Mondoweiss.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        May 7, 2015, 1:46 am

        “Jon s is probably telling all his friends that cigargod is Mondoweiss.”

        “Jon s” dreams, fantasizes about snitching Mondo out to the Feds. He’s a “classic Left” Zionist.

  17. talknic
    talknic
    May 2, 2015, 5:21 pm

    @ jon s ” I think that Mondoweiss is crossing a line here, in posting a link to the Hamas website.
    Would it be ok to post a link to Al Qaeda? ISIS? How about the KKK?The Aryan Brotherhood? …”

    … Israel? UNSC Resolution 476 is one of at least EIGHT reminders of UNSC Res 252
    252 (1968) of 21 May 1968, 267 (1969) of 3 July 1969, 271 (1969) of 15 September 1969, 298 (1971) of 25 September 1971, 446 (1979) of 22 March 1979, 452 (1979) 20 July 1979, 465 (1980) of 1 March 1980, 476 June 30 1980 and 478 August 20 1980. None of which have anything to do with race or religion. They’re based on the UN Charter, International Law and the GC’s, all of which Israel obliged itself to uphold. Alas it hasn’t.

    • jon s
      jon s
      May 5, 2015, 4:41 am

      echinococcus,
      We’re talking about Hamas , a vicious, murderous, terrorist organization, with a genocidal agenda.
      And I’m not an “official” anything.

      • Bornajoo
        Bornajoo
        May 5, 2015, 4:44 am

        “………. , a vicious, murderous, terrorist organization, with a genocidal agenda.” (Jon S)

        How strange. that describes the Israeli regime perfectly

      • jon s
        jon s
        May 5, 2015, 5:31 am

        Giving Hamas a platform on Mondoweiss could lead to more of this perception:

        http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/05/04/mondoweiss-is-a-hate-site/

      • CigarGod
        CigarGod
        May 5, 2015, 8:27 am

        Why are you so afraid, jon s?
        Is it because You don’t have the ability to discuss facts that a Hamas rep might present?
        Better to not allow inconvenient conversations, right?

      • eljay
        eljay
        May 5, 2015, 7:19 am

        || jon s: echinococcus, We’re talking about Hamas , a vicious, murderous, terrorist organization, with a genocidal agenda. ||

        Hamas sounds a lot like Israel minus:
        – the colonialism and expansionism;
        – the 60+ years of (war) crimes; and
        – the refusal to honour obligations under international law.

      • just
        just
        May 5, 2015, 8:52 am

        Bingo, Bornajoo!

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        May 7, 2015, 1:51 am

        “Giving Hamas a platform on Mondoweiss could lead to more of this perception:”

        ROTFLMSJAO!! And he links to “The Volokh Conspiracy”!! Bernstein’s article on why Mondo is a “hate site”! The one Phil remarked on.

        Oh yessiree bob, we are getting an education in “classic Left Zionism” from “Jon s”. Oh yes, “Jon s” is “liberal Zionism” all the way!

  18. David Doppler
    David Doppler
    May 3, 2015, 12:57 pm

    O/T, the important news from Israel that isn’t being covered in the US (including here on MW) concerns the coalition building going on, which Netanyahu has until Wednesday to complete, or risk having President Rivlin invite Herzog to make a go of it. I’ve found the comments posted on this article in JPost to be valuable in exposing the various perspectives of the many factions (what I assume is primarily a Tel Aviv perspective). http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/Deri-vows-no-compromise-to-form-coalition-400888

    The overarching context is that Netanyahu decided in December to dissolve early his broad-based coalition by firing Livni and Lapid, in favor of an opportunity to build a more purely right-wing government. The tactic may have backfired, because the Centrist Zionist Union and the Herzog part have declined to discuss joining, and the election tended to rearrange votes within larger factional divides, rather than show major movement on the right-left axis. Likud improved its showing, but at the expense of the farther right parties, while the Arabs and the Zionist Union also made major gains.

    Netanyahu (Likud 30) has now struck “deals” (nothing’s final until all coalition partners sign onto the same deal) with Kahlon (Kulanu 10, a former Likud faction focused on improving economic issues for the Middle Class), with Shas (7) and UTJ (6, and with Shas, the religious parties) , and he needs his far-right wingers (BY Bennett 8, YB Lieberman 7) to join, with much-diminished role, which they are being offered on a take-it-or-leave-it-basis, and with which they are none too happy. This will get him a 67-53 majority that re-incorporates the religious parties expelled to form his last government, and who are expected to demand repeal of recent laws forcing the Haredi to serve in the IDF, and reducing their public dole, issues that Bennett of Bayit Yehudi fought hard for in the last coalition’s brief tenure. Bennett is being forced to take less authority and eat crow on a core issue for him, he who lectured the Saban Conference about the only important thing being the strength of the Leader’s Spine. If forced to choose between Shas and Bayit Yehudi – Bennett vs Deri – Netanyahu would have a one vote majority 61-59 with Bennett, Shas without BY would result in only 60 votes, but Shas’s Deri is here asserting no compromise; Shas has a history of being part of every coalition, except the last). Without both, a one vote majority would be very unstable, with every coalition partner having effective veto power over every issue. If Netanyahu goes back to the well of Kulanu to ask for more authority to redistribute, he risks losing that essential piece. If he’s forced to concede more authority tentatively assigned to Likud, he’s giving up Likud’s just spoils, earned with Netanyahu’s election day appeals to right-wingers everywhere.

    The comments in JPost express many different perspectives on each of the factions, the risks inherent in any deal, and the many issues (other than how to treat Palestinians, which doesn’t seem to come up) that occupy its readers’ attention, as the deadline looms. Fascinating stuff, worthy of greater attention here.

    • Bornajoo
      Bornajoo
      May 4, 2015, 12:56 pm

      Interesting stuff DD!

      The latest news is that Lieberman has resigned as Foreign Minister and has declared that he or his party will not join a Netanyahu government.

      Where does this leave Netanyahu and the numbers he needs to form a coalition? Can he still do it?

  19. amigo
    amigo
    May 4, 2015, 6:38 am

    Netanyahu has been claiming that the Idfr,s proving humanitarian aid to Nepal represents the real face of Israel

    Netanyahu to Nepal rescue team: This is the real face of Israel.

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4650889,00.html

    .I beg to differ .

    ” Clashes erupted in Tel Aviv’s Rabin Square on Sunday as thousands of people gathered to protest police brutality toward Israeli Jews of Ethiopian descent.

    Dozens of people were injured, many of them police officers. Police made 43 arrests. Later, police stated that 56 police officers were lightly wounded in the protest, and one was moderately wounded.

    Police fired stun grenades and tear gas while some protesters tried to break into the Tel Aviv City Hall, located at the square. Other protesters hurled rocks, planks and plastic and glass bottles at police. ” Haaretz

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/israel/1.654728#

    That is the real face of Israel.Btw, where are the tanks and live ammo .When will the houses of these Jews be demolished.Will the idfr,s spray skunk juice on the homes and schools of these protesters.

  20. Abdul-Rahman
    Abdul-Rahman
    May 5, 2015, 1:14 pm

    It seems articles this, along with the Twitter posts of people who promote justice like Max Blumenthal, Kenneth Roth, and many others: have hit a nerve with the hasbara crew. As today ‘Bloomberg’ has an article up to “defend” Israel’s attempts to once again exploit another natural disaster; as Gaza still lays in ruins from the IDF’s serial criminal activities there. I wasn’t surprised to see Michael Bloomberg’s rag having this, as Bloomberg himself is a tireless Zionist hatemonger of course.

    One of the best responses to these attempts at “bluewashing”, as writer Benjamin Doherty has labeled it, was done by Israeli doctor Yoel Donchin back in 2010. This site covered Dr. Donchin’s statements back then on the disaster in Haiti, and the hasbara gang’s attempts to exploit that disaster for PR propaganda, in the article “Port-au-Hasbara”. Richard Silverstein’s wonderful blog also covered Donchin’s statements.

    Donchin, who once worked on these Israeli teams, gave a very thoughtful analysis discussing just how cynical Israeli regime propaganda gets when it comes to these PR/hasbara “operations”. Including Donchin’s own personal anecdotes of seeing medical equipment being removed from a plane, to allow more IDF press crews and their cameras on board. As Max Blumenthal said it appears that natural disasters around the world, to exploit, can’t come often enough for Israel’s right wing government. And as someone, possibly Dr. Donchin, said: no country does so little, but yet makes so much noise about it.

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