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Update: The State Department has sharply criticized the Israeli handling of the Tariq Abu Khdeir case. Spokesperson John Kirby:

We were disappointed to learn that the Israeli police officer who severely beat American teenager Tariq Abu Khdeir in July of 2014 was spared prison time by an Israeli court yesterday. Given the clear evidence captured on videotape of the excessive use of force, it is difficult to see how this sentence would promote full accountability for the actions of the police officer in this case. We understand there is a possibility for the Israeli state prosecutor to appeal the decision, and we’re going to continue to follow that closely, as you might expect.

I’ll just state again, the safety, security, and protection of American citizens overseas is of paramount importance for this Administration, and we have demonstrated repeatedly – we’ve demonstrated that repeatedly in cases all over the globe.

Original post:

In a mockery of justice, an Israeli border police officer who assaulted 15-year-old Palestinian-American Tariq Abu Khdeir following the kidnapping and torching-murder of his cousin, Mohammed Abu Khdeir, 16, in Occupied East Jerusalem in July 2014, has been sentenced to a mere 45 days of community service. Zip, that’s it.

The anonymous officer, whose identity has been protected by the state, stomped on Abu Khdeir’s back and beat him so relentlessly he lost consciousness. The officer was convicted of assault and battery in Jerusalem Magistrates’ Court and granted a “suspended term of four months in prison“. The judge wrote in the verdict that the state prosecution has not presented a case with similar circumstances that resulted in the defendant “behind bars“.

Here is a statement from the family of Tariq Abu Khdeir:

“To hear that the officer responsible for the inhumane beating of our young son, Tariq, was only sentenced to one-and-a-half months of community service is a shameful slap on the wrist and sends the wrong message that Israel tolerates the violent, extrajudicial beating of children. We continue to demand that justice be served, for the officers that participated in his cruel beating to be held accountable in a transparent manner, and for assurances that such treatment of Palestinian minors by Israeli forces will end.”

Statement from Ahmad Tibi, a member of the Israeli Knesset:

There can be no doubt that if PA police had beaten bloody a Jewish child that Israel would have prosecuted them to the full extent of the law — if they weren’t killed on the spot. The fact that the officers who beat Tariq Abu Khdeir so brutally aren’t serving serious prison time highlights the two-tier nature of Israel’s justice system.  This miscarriage of justice is precisely why Palestinians are taking to the streets in yet another wave of anger for freedom and equal human rights.  We are fed up with what was recognized as apartheid in South Africa and Jim Crow in the American South but is business as usual for Israel’s many trade partners. We have had enough deaths and injuries in the Abu Khdeir family, the Nawara family, and the Dawabsheh family. We insist on immediate change to protect the lives of Palestinian children.  This flagrant racism must end.

Naturally, after Abu Khdeir’s assault the U.S. State Department expressed “deep concern” on behalf of an American citizen. It strongly condemned the use of excessive force and said it was “profoundly troubled” by the case. And that the U.S. government was “shocked” to learn that 15 year old Abu Khdeir was severely beaten while in police custody. The State Department called for an investigation. At that time, Abu Khdeir’s mother, Suha Abu Khdeir, said if her son wasn’t a US citizen he’d be “just pushed to the side like a dog. .. left to rot in jail.”

It is startling to think that the U.S. government was shocked by the treatment. According to the human rights group Yesh Din in a report, “Criminal Accountability of Israeli Security forces”:

Most cases of violent crimes against Palestinians not only go unpunished – but often are completely ignored by the authorities. This is a blatant violation of the human rights of Palestinian civilians living in the West Bank and of Israel’s duties under International Humanitarian Law.

Even when criminal investigations against soldiers accused of such offences are opened, they almost always fail…..approximately 94 percent of criminal investigations launched by the IDF against soldiers suspected of criminal violent activity against Palestinians and their property are closed without any indictments. In the rare cases that indictments are served, conviction leads to very light sentencing.

Tariq Abu Khdeir’s beating took place at a time when anger spilled out into streets all over Palestine following his cousin Mohammed’s lynching. Israeli forces responded with tear gas and rubber bullets, and some live ammunition. Israeli forces surrounded the neighborhood of Shufat in occupied East Jerusalem from which Mohammed had been abducted. And just hours before the earliest tweets of Tariq Abu Khdeir abduction surfaced, our Ramallah correspondent Allison Deger quoted Mohammed Abu Khdeir’s uncle, Walid Abu Khdeir, as saying the Israel police had virtually accused family members of the killing, when police asked the family to “get the boys for questioning.” The uncle responded: “We refused this. If you want them come and capture them.”

Tariq, one of the last people to see his cousin alive, was abducted shortly thereafter.

Tariq Abu Khdeir said he was just standing there watching the protests of his cousin’s murder when police ambushed and attacked him, beating him unconscious. He was then held in custody for three days, part of that time chained to a hospital bed, part at the Russian Compound being interrogated. And finally after a hearing, at which he was barred from returning to his home in the U.S., his family had to pay an 800 dollar fine for his release. Tariq remained in occupied East Jerusalem sentenced to 9 days of house arrest.

The Abu Khdeir home following vandalism by the Israeli police. (Photo provided by Hassan Shibly) - See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2014/07/relatives-apparent-revenge#sthash.Tpiu4bdG.dpuf

The Abu Khdeir home following vandalism by the Israeli police. (Photo provided by Hassan Shibly)

When Tariq was finally able to return to his home in Florida, the Israeli police exacted a price from his relatives by raiding the family home in Occupied East Jerusalem, arresting Abu Khdeir’s uncle and cousins without charges, and ransacking their property.

Had a video of the assault not emerged and gone viral on social media, his trauma, no different from countless other assaults/tortures/crimes carried out routinely by Israeli forces against Palestinian children, would have gone unnoticed.

Nine months later, all charges against Tariq were dropped; as he said, it was a “make-believe case.” And here we are 16 months later and the assaulting officer can just walk away from this. Brad Parker, Attorney and International Advocacy officer for Defense for Children International – Palestine,  said the conviction “must be understood within the context of an Israeli judicial system where impunity reigns … impunity is the norm for Israeli forces.” Parker said, via Institute for Middle East Understanding (IMEU):

Israel claims to open investigations into incidents involving injury and violence against Palestinian children, but indictments are incredibly rare and impunity is the norm for Israeli forces. When compared to the brutal use of excessive force employed against an incapacitated fifteen-year-old boy, most should agree that this is an incredibly light sentence. It is troubling that Tariq Abu Khdeir, who was cleared of any wrongdoing, possibly spent more time in detention than the unnamed officer convicted of brutally assaulting him.”

To add insult to the injury and injustice, the New York Times today concluded its account of the case, saying, “The Israeli authorities said that Tariq was masked and holding a wooden slingshot when the officer chased him.” Really? But all charges against him were dropped. There was no case.

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  1. ckg
    ckg
    November 19, 2015, 1:51 pm

    Thanks Annie.

    Most of the news articles today about this today, including the NYT, use photos of Tariq that were taken over a week after the brutal beating, when the physical damage to Tariq’s face was mostly healed.

    • annie
      annie
      November 19, 2015, 2:41 pm

      ckg, on the night of july 3rd i intercepted tweets from his family, this was before i knew he was related to Mohammed or that he was american. i tacked them onto the base of an article we published on july 4th here http://mondoweiss.net/2014/07/please-pray-palestine

      the tweet time stamps “3 july 2014”. i retweeted them at the time. this was before it was any kind of a big story. i went back to those original tweets. they were the first documentation of what had happened to him, before his mom was even able to see him. truly tragic. i grabbed the photo for this article right off the original tweet from Sophia Abu khdeir: https://twitter.com/SophiKader/status/484884235312844803?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

      • ckg
        ckg
        November 19, 2015, 3:20 pm

        Annie, Since the twitter photo should be public domain, I think the NYT should have used it instead of the week-later one that made the injuries look minor.

        In the comment section of your embedded 2014 post, Tariq’s cousin Fatina confirmed his U.S. citizenship. Via twitter Matt Lee was notified and he raised it at the next State Dept daily briefing.

      • annie
        annie
        November 19, 2015, 3:47 pm

        yes, and the last tweet in the post (from Zak Abukhdair ) said he was a US citizen too (which i may have added on).

        we had many articles about this attack as story unfolded, over 10 i am fairly certain (beginning here: http://mondoweiss.net/2014/07/page/12 ). the next article was also published in july 4 , the same day but after the video came out:

        http://mondoweiss.net/2014/07/israeli-brutally-palestinian

        you can see it was updated. originally i drafted it as soon as IMEMC posted the video and then added EI’s link.

        then on the 5th we published adam’s follow up http://mondoweiss.net/2014/07/immediate-release-arbitrary

        later allison wrote a more comprehensive article and alex interviewed him at his home in florida. phil mostly covered the msm response — which there was a lot of over time.

      • Kathleen
        Kathleen
        November 19, 2015, 9:30 pm

        Go Annie

        Is anyone aware if this Israeli sentencing was mentioned in the State Dept briefing?

        And people wonder why Palestinians hate the Israeli apartheid government and its enforcers. Sickening

      • annie
        annie
        November 19, 2015, 10:03 pm

        yes it was kathleen, see ckg’s comment at the bottom of the thread

  2. Ossinev
    Ossinev
    November 19, 2015, 2:11 pm

    Long time known fact – Zionist Israel as a society has become a spineless hypocritical piece of s..t. It will be interesting to see in the response from American mainstream politicians and MSM if they continue to be the same or will they have the courage to stand up to Zionist money for once and say “wait a minute – a 15 year old innocent American citizen is savagely beaten up for no reason by an Israeli Border Police Officer and our ” greatest friend and ally ” sentences the officer to 45 days community service !!! ”

    Initial NYT article does not bode well and surprise surprise no comments section.
    No other American MSM articles to be found.
    No US State Department comment as yet – perhaps the MSM are waiting for this before commenting. If in all likelihood it will be the usual expression of ” concern ” I expect they will be back on the normal Zio beat outlining the extaordinary “terror” threat the victimised Israeli people have faced since the dawn of mankind etc etc etc.

    An American administration with anywhere near a proper set of “cojones ” would be down on Nitay and his acolytes like a ton of bricks over this one.

    • RoHa
      RoHa
      November 19, 2015, 6:39 pm

      “a 15 year old innocent American citizen”

      No-one called “Tariq Abu Khdeir” can be innocent or a real American. Especially not if he’s hanging around East Jerusalem.

      Be grateful the State Department paid any attention at all.

  3. hophmi
    hophmi
    November 19, 2015, 2:13 pm

    How much time did the officers in the Garner and Brown cases get?

    “Even when criminal investigations against soldiers accused of such offences are opened, they almost always fail…..approximately 94 percent of criminal investigations launched by the IDF against soldiers suspected of criminal violent activity against Palestinians and their property are closed without any indictments. ”

    What percentage of investigations into American police officers are closed without indictment? How about investigations in to US Army personnel?

    • annie
      annie
      November 19, 2015, 2:25 pm

      hops, did you open the embed to the judges statements? it’s in hebrew but you can use google translate.

      she had never heard of a similar circumstance in israel where an officer spent time behind bars. that cannot be said for our justice system no matter how unjust it is. the 2 are not comparable.

      find me one incident, out of all the examples of palestinian children being tortured and abused by Israeli forces (there are some resources at this link that might be illuminating http://mondoweiss.net/2014/01/palestinian-children-freezing ), where any officer or israeli security agent was sentenced to prison and served that sentence.

    • amigo
      amigo
      November 19, 2015, 3:04 pm

      “What percentage of investigations into American police officers are closed without indictment? How about investigations in to US Army personnel?” hopmi

      Wtf does that have to do with police officers (members on an occupying force) running riot on a daily basis and never paying a price higher than a slap on the wrist and then , only when they are caught on camera.

      You complained about someone calling you drunk just yesterday.That,s no surprise , given some of the irrelevant nonsense you post here.That level of mindless trollop can only be explained by the over use of some form of mind altering drug.

      • Maximus Decimus Meridius
        Maximus Decimus Meridius
        November 19, 2015, 3:17 pm

        “@amigo

        “the over use of some form of mind altering drug.”

        That’ll be the ziocaine.

        It’s powerful stuff. At least that’s what I’m told.

      • amigo
        amigo
        November 19, 2015, 6:49 pm

        ““the over use of some form of mind altering drug.”

        “That’ll be the ziocaine.

        It’s powerful stuff. At least that’s what I’m told.”.

        Mind Altering Drug. short version = MAD.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius
      Maximus Decimus Meridius
      November 19, 2015, 3:11 pm

      Hophmi,

      You really are running out of steam here. You know as well as we do that if the roles were reversed – ie if the perpetrator was Palestinian and the victim Jewish – he would have been shot on the spot if possible and if not, his entire village, would have been surrounded and put under curfew, and he (as well as other members of his family) would likely have been shot in ‘clashes’ with the occcupation forces, or at best he’d have been dragged away to never be seen again. Then, his family home would have been demolished.

      But you know all this. Don’t you?

      BTW can you tell us what happened to those arsonists who wiped out almost an entire Palestinian family this summer? Is the same ‘justice’ system which instantly ‘knows’ where to find Palestinian attackers still unable to track down these Jewish terrorists?

    • talknic
      talknic
      November 19, 2015, 3:41 pm

      Ziowhataboutery 101 Alert!

      hophmi “How much time did the officers in the Garner and Brown cases get?”

      AMAZING! It would have prevented the IDF from behaving the way it does? Is that what you mean?

      BTW The blowback from someone who wasn’t occupied all their lives wasn’t very nice https://www.google.com.au/search?q=NYPD%20officers%20executed%20Garner%20and%20Brown

      “What percentage of investigations into American police officers are closed without indictment?”

      Were there more convictions it would somehow change IDF behaviour? WOW! What an interesting theory.

      “How about investigations in to US Army personnel?”

      What a good idea. Then Israel will suddenly end the occupation as required by International Law and the UN Charter … right?

      • inbound39
        inbound39
        November 20, 2015, 12:35 am

        Hophmi the token Hasbarite tosses more nonsense around …..and quick as a flash achieves nothing.

    • Talkback
      Talkback
      November 19, 2015, 4:37 pm

      Hophmi “How much time did the officers in the Garner and Brown cases get?”

      How many children does the only Apartheid state in the milky way hold in adminstrative detention without any charge or trial? How many of them are Jewish?

    • diasp0ra
      diasp0ra
      November 19, 2015, 7:34 pm

      @Hophmi

      Do you ever get tired of deflection and whataboutery?

      Do you ever stop rationalizing why this is okay?

    • Marnie
      Marnie
      November 19, 2015, 11:56 pm

      “What percentage of investigations into American police officers are closed without indictment? How about investigations in to US Army personnel?”

      Find out and report back. It’s not anyone’s job here to do that? This site is about the middle east, in particular the zionist state. You guys are hysterical! Every article is given the old “What aboutery” treatment. Asinine and infantile.Yet, you received a measured response from Annie. There’s no shame in your game.

      • David44
        David44
        November 23, 2015, 10:30 am

        Since Hophmi seems unlikely to answer your challenge, let me do it for him. The issue was addressed a little while ago by FiveThirtyEight (http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/allegations-of-police-misconduct-rarely-result-in-charges/), and it shows that in the period studied, there were more than 8300 accusations of police misconduct in the US. Of those, 3238 – around 38% – resulted in charges against the officers. That compares with around 6% in Israel, according to the figures given by Yesh Din. Moreover, of those who were charged, 33% were convicted and 12% received prison terms – something which, according to the information here, hardly ever happens in Israel.

        So Hophmi’s “whataboutery” fails even on its own terms. The US is hardly aggressive about charging and convicting officers (note that the FiveThirtyEight article is headlined “Allegations Of Police Misconduct Rarely Result In Charges”), but even in the US, it happens around 6 times as often as it does in Israel.

  4. ritzl
    ritzl
    November 19, 2015, 3:32 pm

    The judge wrote in the verdict that the state prosecution has not presented a case with similar circumstances that resulted in the defendant “behind bars“.

    Wow. What an astounding circularity.

    You were caught on video murdering a Palestinian, but since no one has been sentenced to prison for murdering a Palestinian it’s community service for you buddy!

    The selectivity gaming possibilities are limitless (Just append a day of the week for starters. Then there’s night or day, rain or shine, solo or as a group, a dog barked in the distance, etc., etc., etc., ad nauseam ….

    Israel is one very messed up country.

    Sickening.

    And at the rate Israel-ification of “western” law enforcement is proceeding, is this what we all have to look forward to in our own countries? It’s pretty clear it’s happening in the US (unless you’re a black cop that kills a white kid, that is – but that too may arguably be another sign of this creeping sickness from abroad)

    Don’t get me started on Abu Khdeir’s cringer of a congresswoman: Kathy Castor.

    http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/florida-congresswoman-sides-israeli-police-over-her-own-brutalized-teenage

    Hi everyone! :)

    Thanks Annie for following up on this.

    • annie
      annie
      November 19, 2015, 3:53 pm

      ritzl, that was actually the very last sentence i added to the article. when it was waiting for publication our trustie awesome israeli contact ofer sent the ynet link. i informed him i had already written about it (wrote it yesterday mostly), that it would be published soon but none the less i opened his link (hebrew) and read it via google translate and what do you know there was that sentence. i was just floored!!!!

      gee, since we’ve yet to imprison a security officer for assaulting a palestinian why start now? lol, you can’t make this stuff up.

      • ritzl
        ritzl
        November 19, 2015, 4:26 pm

        Glad you included it! It hyper-illustrates the glaring distinctions and discriminators between Israel where they simply and unashamedly and repeatedly just make stuff up to suit the moment (judicially AND legislatively), and other “western democracies” which, however vestigially, operate under an actual system of written laws and/or structured precedent.

        Israel couldn’t be any more different.

        Thanks again.

      • annie
        annie
        November 19, 2015, 4:56 pm

        my pleasure ritzl

  5. DaBakr
    DaBakr
    November 19, 2015, 5:22 pm

    while unlikely to change any minds on this blog the commenters should at least be aware that the above photo of Khadeir was filtered with the ‘fish eye’ lens to exaggerate the appearance of the boys lips bulging out and swollen. Why would the person who took the image need to exaggerate an obvious black eye and swollen spilt lip with a special fx lens? Its already bad enough without a lens filter and just makes some people question the motivation behind this addition to reality.

    • annie
      annie
      November 19, 2015, 7:16 pm

      is that your hunch? about the fish eye lens? because this looks very similar, just taken a few more feet away >> http://mondoweiss.net/2014/07/israeli-brutally-palestinian

      Why would the person who took the image need to exaggerate an obvious black eye and swollen spilt lip with a special fx lens?

      show me your source before we ponder your hypothetical assertions.

      • talknic
        talknic
        November 19, 2015, 9:28 pm

        No time to ponder. Get in on the ground level. INVEST HEAVILY in DaBakr’s radical & magical new revolutionary Ziofisheye fx lens that doesn’t distort the background.

      • annie
        annie
        November 19, 2015, 9:47 pm

        If you can not tell when…..bla bla bla

        so that would be a “no” you have no source. this is just your hunch because you know how to look at a grossly distorted and swollen face and determine it’s not a regular selfie close up. uh huh.

        the kid was beaten up at the russian compound too. it seems very strange you’re more concerned about covering up what happened to him that the fact a security officer beat the crap out if him.

        look on the bright side dabkr, the vast majority of kids who have the crap beat out of them by israel forces don’t have american parents who raise enough of a stink to have them transferred to a hospital in a timely fashion or have cell phones to document their swollen faces before they are released MONTHS down the road — when the swelling has gone down.

    • Mooser
      Mooser
      November 19, 2015, 7:24 pm

      “fish eye lens”
      Just more of that Zionist omniscience. They know everything. And we, of course “should at least be aware…” Hoo-boy. Speaking of “making things up”

    • oldgeezer
      oldgeezer
      November 19, 2015, 7:40 pm

      @dabakr

      Have you been an apologist for the beating and abuse of children all of your life or only since taking on your zionist mantel? Are a practitioner as well?

    • eljay
      eljay
      November 19, 2015, 8:17 pm

      || DaBakr: while unlikely to change any minds on this blog the commenters should at least be aware that the above photo of Khadeir was filtered with the ‘fish eye’ lens to exaggerate the appearance of the boys lips bulging out and swollen. … ||

      Is it a regular fish-eye lens, or a special “Pallywood” lens? Regardless, do you have any actual proof that the photo was filtered through a fish-eye lens?

      Were these photos also filtered through that lens?

    • talknic
      talknic
      November 19, 2015, 8:41 pm

      @ DaBakr ” the commenters should at least be aware that the above photo of Khadeir was filtered with the ‘fish eye’ lens to exaggerate the appearance of the boys lips bulging out and swollen”

      Interesting theory. Problem: the background shows no fisheye effect. A new Israeli invention perhaps? WOW!!

      “Why would the person who took the image need to exaggerate an obvious black eye and swollen spilt lip with a special fx lens?”

      A special Israeli invented Ziofisheye fx lens that doesn’t distort the background. Exciting stuff!!

      ” Its already bad enough without a lens filter and just makes some people question the motivation behind this addition to reality”

      Interesting theory you have about “reality”. Know where can one buy such a lens?

      Oh … BTW why are Israel’s apologists so &*&^% stupid?

      Oh look another photo taken with the magical Israeli invented Ziofisheye lens https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrqXwDECYAASC-Q.jpg

    • Marnie
      Marnie
      November 19, 2015, 11:58 pm

      See my post to Hophmi above.

      There are people who claimed the photos of the gassed Jews in Europe weren’t Jews but the victims of the Holodomer more than 10 years earlier.

      What could be the possible reason you all go to such lengths to minimize, deny and excuse the horrors that the zionist state inflicts on non-Jews?

    • echinococcus
      echinococcus
      November 20, 2015, 3:24 am

      Obviously you never got a proper beating, which is surprising to say the least; otherwise you’d know that this here is an already healing face, that there is no need for a fish-eye, and that you should go buy at least
      one milligram of human self-respect before blurting nonsense about fish-eyes to a lot of people here who know a lot more about photography than you.

    • Talkback
      Talkback
      November 20, 2015, 5:09 am

      DaBakr :”while unlikely to change any minds on this blog”

      How about using the DaBakr mind distortion fx (“FUBAR Zionist” edition)?

      • DaBakr
        DaBakr
        November 20, 2015, 3:35 pm

        very easy to come off sounding snarky and intelligent. So easily accomplished when all of my responses and answers to your hyper-asinine charges and ‘questions’ were moderated out of existence. What childish nonsense that mod interprets this as nakba denial. i never claimed the kid wasn’t beat but its still no excuse to ignore a standard filter effect from a simple phone camera app in just about every smartphone sold. Too bad. I took the time to respond to each and every one of you dopes personally including the foolish far-fetched MW funny man. Its so easy to turn the truth on its head commenting in your own little reality-free bubble.

      • annie
        annie
        November 20, 2015, 4:02 pm

        DaBakr, it wasn’t nakba denial it was various combinations of “your an idiot.. If you can’t tell what a wide angle-call it a CONVEX filter…”

        or “your an idiot.. if you don’t like fish-eye..”

        or “are you people cranky.”

        or “If you can not tell when a fish-eye filter…then I cannot help you”

        on and on and on, multiple comments saying the same thing. find one of your elderofzion blogspots or camera, or pal watch or any number of sites alleging to bust ‘pallywood’ to write a blog post about it if you think you’re so right. then link to it. if it’s so “obvious” why hasn’t anyone published that allegation and put their name behind that claim? but if you think we’re obligated to let you spam this thread with nothing more than the same insulting allegations over and over, you’d be wrong.

        and we’re not obligated to print downright lies like “Israel maintained near 100% Muslim safety” at holy sites (arguably a form of nakba denial in and of itself). not when people are detained, beat up and killed trying to get to it or around them. seriously. i’m disappearing this shortly, i just wanted you to know why those comments are not getting thru. spamming. you got to say it several (many) times so you’ve not being denied an opportunity to express what clueless lo-tec idiots you think we are.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        November 20, 2015, 4:50 pm

        “…then I cannot help you”

        Just who on earth do you think you are helping, “Dabakr”? I’ve often wondered.

      • oldgeezer
        oldgeezer
        November 20, 2015, 5:00 pm

        @dabakr

        I second annie’s comment wrt to providing some analysis to back your claim. Perhaps detailed analysis from the elder site…. you know like his expert analysis like the one he provided which proved that the two kids killed by sniper fire outside of ofer prison couldnt have been shot. It will be elightening to the world particularly the arresting Israeli authorities.

        The reality free zone is in your head. Tossing out spurious unsubstantiated allegations is neither fact nor analysis.

        Still supporting the abuse of children i take it?

      • talknic
        talknic
        November 20, 2015, 6:38 pm

        @ DaBakr “i never claimed the kid wasn’t beat but its still no excuse to ignore a standard filter effect from a simple phone camera app in just about every smartphone sold” all of which distort the background too, unlike the photo above.

        ” Its so easy to turn the truth on its head commenting in your own little reality-free bubble”

        Especially if you’re an idiot for Israel overdosed on Ziocrap

      • RoHa
        RoHa
        November 20, 2015, 8:13 pm

        “i never claimed the kid wasn’t beat”

        I should hope not. He may be a lot younger than Ginsberg and Kerouac, but there is no reason why he can’t follow their lead.

        I hope you aren’t claiming he wasn’t beaten, either.

      • eljay
        eljay
        November 20, 2015, 10:50 pm

        || DaBakr: … i never claimed the kid wasn’t beat but its still no excuse to ignore a standard filter effect from a simple phone camera app in just about every smartphone sold. … ||

        I’m willing to believe you if you can provide any evidence that the photo was filtered.

        Regarding these photos, which show a similar degree of damage to the boy’s face: Were they also filtered using a “standard filter effect”?

      • Talkback
        Talkback
        November 21, 2015, 6:16 am

        Annie @ DeBakr: “if it’s so “obvious” why hasn’t anyone published that allegation and put their name behind that claim?”

        What a lo-tec question, Annie. Never noticed the “putz syndrome” which makes a heavy user of the Hasbara app believe that’s not him living in a “little reality-free bubble”?

      • DaBakr
        DaBakr
        November 21, 2015, 8:35 pm

        @annie

        [..]
        I am in actuality, not against that charges were filed against the police. Of course it wasn’t a harsh enough sentence for Israel-haters. But it is no different from excessive police brutality in any state or nation anywhere. excessive is excessive as in not necessary. Khadeir should not have any of those wounds- exaggerated or not.

      • annie
        annie
        November 21, 2015, 8:55 pm

        But it is no different from excessive police brutality in any state or nation anywhere.

        that’s not true. The judge wrote in the verdict that she (i think it was a she) was not familiar with the state prosecution EVER presenting a case with similar circumstances that resulted in the defendant imprisoned. what does that tell you? there’s a big difference between excessive police brutality occurring in other states — and others NEVER imprisoning police for excessive force against an ethnic group continually targeted by the state. that certainly cannot be said for the U.S.

        Khadeir should not have any of those wounds- exaggerated or not.

        we agree on that, thank you.

  6. ckg
    ckg
    November 19, 2015, 6:15 pm

    From this afternoon’s State briefing:

    QUESTION: And then a sentence was delivered for an Israeli policeman, who a year ago was seen on video beating an American citizen, American dual-national.

    MR KIRBY: Right.

    QUESTION: I think he got six weeks of community service. Do you feel this is adequate accountability?

    MR KIRBY: We were disappointed to learn that the Israeli police officer who severely beat American teenager Tariq Abu Khdeir in July of 2014 was spared prison time by an Israeli court yesterday. Given the clear evidence captured on videotape of the excessive use of force, it is difficult to see how this sentence would promote full accountability for the actions of the police officer in this case. We understand there is a possibility for the Israeli state prosecutor to appeal the decision, and we’re going to continue to follow that closely, as you might expect.

    I’ll just state again, the safety, security, and protection of American citizens overseas is of paramount importance for this Administration, and we have demonstrated repeatedly – we’ve demonstrated that repeatedly in cases all over the globe.

    QUESTION: Do you feel —

    QUESTION: John, do you have —

    QUESTION: Just one more on this. Do you feel that this somehow indicative, this sentence, or calls into question Israel’s overall commitment to holding accountable its government or military personnel who commit abuses?

    MR KIRBY: I don’t think we’re at a stage now to make a leap here in terms of trend analysis for this. We treat each of these incidents separately and uniquely, and I’ll let my comments stand.

    • RoHa
      RoHa
      November 19, 2015, 7:05 pm

      Mr. Kirby must spend hours practising in front of a mirror.

    • Kathleen
      Kathleen
      November 20, 2015, 7:26 am

      “trend analysis” Israel has and continues to commit thousands of crimes like this against Palestinians. Mr. Kirby knows this…If Tariq had not been an American citizen would have been swept under Israel’s bloody and deadly rug like all of their other human rights abuses.

      • Kathleen
        Kathleen
        November 20, 2015, 7:40 am

        …..

        The only reason this has gotten any attention is that Tariq is an American. Although that sure did not help Furkan Dogan. Colonel Ann Wright wrote then Secretary of State about Israel murdering Dogan on the Mavi Marmara. Don’t think Clinton ever responded to Wright’s concerns.

  7. ckg
    ckg
    November 20, 2015, 5:15 am

    Off topic. AP: Israel reports Pollard has been freed.

  8. Kathleen
    Kathleen
    November 20, 2015, 7:35 am

    Just read NYBloody Times piece. Said administration officials not willing to allow Pollard to go to Israel to live. Also mentions that intelligence officials still very pissed off about how Pollard’s crimes undermined U.S. National Security in huge ways.

    From what I have read in the past about this issue intelligence officials are rip roaring pissed about Pollards crimes and his release. Wonder if all of the sealed documents around this case will now be accessible? Pollard is released will the details of his crimes be released?

    • Kay24
      Kay24
      November 20, 2015, 7:58 am

      It is unbelievable how Israeli supporters show support for this traitor, and how indignant they are that the US did not release this man when they harassed us to do so (for many years), These people think they are special, and that their criminals should be treated like royalty, while little Palestinians kids are treated like sh*t when they throw stones or not. The double standards continue, and the US government keeps tolerating this BS.

    • echinococcus
      echinococcus
      November 20, 2015, 8:05 am

      “Administration officials” will let him flee to the Zionist entity sure as hell. Only acceptable solution would be exchange against Vanunu.

    • ckg
      ckg
      November 20, 2015, 8:54 am

      NYT: If Mr. Pollard were allowed to go to Israel, where his case has been a cause célèbre for years, Mr. diGenova said there would be a “parade” and “events just rubbing it in the United States’ face.”

      He’ll get his parades here.

      • Kay24
        Kay24
        November 20, 2015, 9:48 am

        According to CNN he handed over SUITCASES of material to Israeli officials. He will not be allowed to go to his motherland for that parade, until he spends a few years on parole in NY.

        Some zionists call him a “HERO”

        He is nothing but is zionist scumbag who took advantage of the country he benefitted from.

        It is strange that the zionist supporters like Maher, Huckerbee, Wasserman Schultz, and so many others, do not mention this, refer to it, or condemn this, as they continue to do the good work for an alien nation.

  9. Kay24
    Kay24
    November 20, 2015, 7:35 am

    It is scary but this lunatic leads the idiot pack of Republicans. To think there are people out there who support him is unbelievable:

    TRUMP WANTS TO FORCE MUSLIMS TO CARRY SPECIAL ID’S LIKE THE NAZIS MADE THE JEWS DO.

    http://www.occupydemocrats.com/trump-lets-force-muslims-to-carry-special-ids-like-nazis-made-jews/

    What has the US become? I do not recognize it anymore.

    • Marnie
      Marnie
      November 21, 2015, 9:06 am

      @Kay24 –
      I agree. The US is looking more and more like the xenophobic, murderous country that US politicians are constantly screwing US citizens for. Damn zionists.

      • Kay24
        Kay24
        November 21, 2015, 2:25 pm

        If these were Jewish refugees, you can bet our congress and nasty leaders, would be jumping over each other trying to be the first to welcome them (while the Israeli lobbies twists their arms).
        This is nothing but racism at it’s worst, shown by those against these refugees, and the Islamaphobic Americans, who have been brainwashed by the media, and who have hatred for a religion they have no clue about.

  10. Ossinev
    Ossinev
    November 20, 2015, 8:01 am

    @kathleen
    Like you have just read what is a low key report until we get to the fruitcake stall at the end viz:
    ” On Friday morning, though, Ayelet Shaked, the hawkish Israeli justice minister, exulted on her Facebook page, “A free man!” over his photograph. She invoked a biblical verse, from the book of Jeremiah, that implied he should be allowed to emigrate to Israel.
    “We rejoice at the joy over the release of our brother Jonathan,” the post said. “Sons will yet return to their borders. And thy children shall return to their own border.”

    Nachman Shai, a lawmaker from the center-left Zionist Union who heads a Parliament caucus that pushed for Mr. Pollard’s release, wrote in a letter to Mr. Pollard that the group would “not cease its activity until we remove the limitations imposed upon you upon your release.

    “We continue to demand the removal of any restriction on your freedom of movement, communication, or other violation of your rights,” Mr. Shai wrote. “We will not rest until you are free to depart the United States for any destination of your choosing, first and foremost Israel.”

    No comments page as yet but I suspect that they would reflect what the bought and bent Israeli firsters in the US administration and elected bodies secretly fear about this little ticking time bomb – real loyal man on the street American firsters asking why are some of their so called compatriots lauding this money grabbing weasel traitor as a victim and worst case scenario if he does get to go back to his own border (FFS !) why are the leaders of our greatest ally and all of their chosen people treating him like the Pope. Which leads to why are we giving this s…ty little cult colony $3 billion + a year to piss in our faces.

  11. StanleyHeller
    StanleyHeller
    November 20, 2015, 9:03 am

    The trial of the 3 Israelis who burned his cousin Mohammed to death last had a session in June, 5 months ago. I cannot find any mention of the trial’s resumption or plans for the resumption of the trial. I assume the 3 are still in prison, but who knows?

    • annie
      annie
      November 20, 2015, 10:38 am

      stanley, i don’t think it was a trial, i think it was a hearing. and as far as i know no one has been no indictments. they changed the laws to allow administrative detention w/no trial and allegedly are holding some people. i have not really heard much about it tho so that might not be accurate. if you’ve read more please link.

    • a blah chick
      a blah chick
      November 20, 2015, 11:43 am

      So far as I know everyone’s still locked up. I suspect that is more for their protection. I can’t find any evidence that anything legal has happened since the summer. If it has been suspended then this is at least the second time this has happened. The first time was about a year ago and the issue was that Ben Yosef, the leader, wasn’t co-operating with his lawyers.

      My suspicion is that they are just stalling for time until the teens can be”quietly” released for time served and Ben Yosef sent to a mental institution. The date will no doubt coincide with the Pollard victory parade.

  12. StanleyHeller
    StanleyHeller
    November 20, 2015, 12:59 pm

    Here’s the last al-Jazeera report from July

    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/07/trial-abu-khdeir-killers-sham-family-150701075625547.html

    They call it a trial. I raise the issue whenever I can. Some friendly Israeli groups should raise it.

  13. Ossinev
    Ossinev
    November 20, 2015, 2:06 pm

    Latest news ref Pollard is that Alan Dershowitz – sorry give me a moment suppressing an involuntary wretch – has pitched in and may be representing the poor victimised American traitor ” viz ex today`s Jerusalem Post:
    ” Frankly, I think part of the reason they don’t want him to go to Israel is that they don’t want him to be a hero there or influence Israeli politics with his conservative views. It’s a political decision, and with him, it’s been about politics all along.” IMHO Rent a Leech whose brain is rarely in gear at the best of times has inadvertently nailed it. For the moment the Zios who actually control the US administration realise that to let the dear old lovable honorable all American Pollard go to his beloved Land of Creation would really upset the carefully nurtured and Zio drip fed cosy joe on the street American thinking about the greatest ally. Can you imagine the knicker twisting rationales which US MSM would have to invent to explain why an American traitor is being welomed as a “returning hero” with the full red carpet at BG , a kiss and a hug from Nitay and an adoring Israeli public scattering flowers at his feet all the way to the triumphant speech at the Knesset.

    He doesn`t look to be in good health poor thing. They must be fervently hoping that passes away peacefully in his sleep – oops I may have given them an idea.

    • RoHa
      RoHa
      November 20, 2015, 7:53 pm

      I would like to see Pollard go to Israel for that very reason.

      (I think you mean “involuntary retch”. Wretched though Dershowitz may be, I think it is entirely voluntary.)

  14. Ossinev
    Ossinev
    November 21, 2015, 7:42 am

    @RoHa
    Got me bang to rights on that one.In my defence it is difficult to concentrate on terminology when trying not to throw up. Anyway good news is that you have now flavoured the comments with an appropriate illustration of the Dershowitz “character” viz
    Wretch = A person regarded as base, mean, or despicable: “a stony adversary, an inhuman wretch” (Shakespeare).

    Ta very much

  15. Marnie
    Marnie
    November 21, 2015, 9:12 am

    I’m embarrassed for the US gov’t over this bitch slapping by the zionists WRT the traitor Pollard. Unbelievable. The reality is so crazy I feel at times like I’m having an incredibly long nightmare.

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