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Friday was another deadly bloody day in Palestine. Israeli forces killed four Palestinians, two in Hebron and two outside illegal Israeli settlements near Ramallah. The third to die was Abed Rahman Barghouthi, 26, killed at the entrance of the Palestinian village of Aboud, adjacent to the settlement of Halamish. Witnesses told Ma’an News Barghouthi was an American citizen who “recently arrived back from the US to get married, after getting engaged five months previously.”

Update: A relative of Barghouthi in the United States tells Allison Deger that the victim was not a citizen, though he has many American connections. “My cousin is the martyr Abd el Rahman Barghouti. His sister was married to my brother for 10 years and I’m related to him from both sides of my family. Mondoweiss is reporting him as purportedly an American citizen, but only his sister is. His mother and father both hold resident alien cards. And his other brother is in Canada.”

Barghouthi was given a military funeral which set off from the Palestine Medical Complex in Ramallah. Thousands of Palestinian mourners attended his funeral procession in Aboud on Saturday afternoon.

Military funeral of Abdel Rahman Barghouti, 27 Photo: Alaa Mpharjh

Military funeral of Abdel Rahman Barghouti, 27, in Palestine Medical Complex Ramallah, Photo: Alaa Mpharjh

Israel alleged Barghouthi was killed for stabbing a soldier. The Times of Israel reported, “The attack occurred during a security check, when the assailant exited his vehicle and stabbed the soldier in the neck.” Israeli sources say the unnamed soldier was evacuated to Sheba Medical Center, Tel Hashomer, and is suffering from moderate to serious wounds in his upper body. But residents tell an altogether different story and circumstances surrounding the event seem unusual.

Palestinian News and Information Agency WAFA, reports that witnesses say, “Israeli forces killed Abdul-Rahman in ‘cold-blood’, after being stopped at the village entrance”. According to witnesses, soldiers had exited the scene after killing Barghouthi to get military reinforcements, during which time, “Barghouthi’s body was taken from the scene by a Palestinian vehicle before soldiers attempted to follow the vehicle, while targeting it with shots.” The Jewish Press put it this way: “Arabs stole” Barghouthi’s body.

After the extrajudicial execution Israeli forces fired live bullets, stun grenades and tear gas towards young Palestinians who flocked to the location he was killed. 

Palestinian News and Information Agency WAFA:

He was dropped off by a public taxi near the village entrance, where clashes were taking place between local youths and Israeli forces.

“Israeli forces killed Abdul-Rahman in ‘cold-blood’, after being stopped at the village entrance,’ said Husni al-Barghouthi, Abdel al-Rahman’s uncle, who refuted the Israeli allegations, confirming that soldiers ‘planted a knife beside his body.’

‘al-Barghothi was ordered by soldiers to show his identity card, when soldiers opened fire at him, hitting him in the neck and head with over six bullets, causing his immediate death,’ he added.

Witnesses added that the soldiers ran away to a nearby military outpost before other military reinforcements were brought to the scene.

Al-Barghouthi’s body was taken from the scene by a Palestinian vehicle before soldiers attempted to follow the vehicle, while targeting it with shots.

Al-Barghouthi’s body was then taken to a Salfit hospital before being transferred into Palestine Medical Complex in Ramallah.

Following the alleged stabbing attack, Israeli forces cordoned Aboud village off, closing the main entrance of Aboud village and preventing all residents from exiting or entering the village through the main street.

Reportedly, another witness claimed that a soldier grabbed the soldier who shot Barghouthi and took him behind her house, and subsequently, he became the Israeli victim. Israeli press said the soldier was “lightly injured.”

Something doesn’t add up. If Palestinians were able to evacuate Barghouthi’s body it means the soldiers had abandoned the immediate vicinity. Had a wounded soldier accompanied the Israeli soldiers to a nearby military outpost for reinforcements why didn’t ambulances pick him up at the outpost instead of Aboud, as documented? Had a wounded soldier remained at the scene he would not have been left alone, so where were they when Barghouthi’s body was evacuated?

Al Quds reported The Palestinian Health Ministry said Barghouthi arrived at Salfit Hospital, and the governor of Salfit ordered Palestinian authorities to guard the hospital “to prevent the storming of the occupation forces and the abduction of his body.”*

Here is a brief video of the funeral procession in the village of Aboud, where Barghouthi was born.

Barghouthi was engaged to be married. His fiancee said she was talking to him on the phone when suddenly disconnected. She called back minutes later and was informed he had been killed.

Clashes broke out with Israeli forces in the village of Aboud following Barghouthi’s  funeral.

Abed Rahman Barghouthi - Photo: Ma'an News

Abed Rahman Barghouthi, a Palestinian with U.S. citizenship – Photo: Ma’an News

Since the beginning of October, Israeli forces have killed 114 Palestinians— and 19 Israelis have died in that period. The Israeli army is reportedly holding the bodies of 40 Palestinians killed by Israeli forces in the West Bank (including East Jerusalem) and refusing to return them to Palestinians. Residents of Jabal Mukaber neighborhood in East Jerusalem demonstrated for the release of Palestinians’ bodies yesterday, December 4th:

Palestinians from the East Jerusalem neighbourhood of Jabal Mukaber clash with Israeli forces following a demonstration calling for the return of the bodies of killed Palestinians. Dec. 04, 2015. Photo by Mahfouz Abu Turk

Palestinians from the East Jerusalem neighbourhood of Jabal Mukaber clash with Israeli forces following a demonstration calling for the return of the bodies of killed Palestinians. Dec. 04, 2015. Photo by Mahfouz Abu Turk

And speaking of the village of Aboud: Israel dynamited the ancient 6th century Byzantine church St Barbara of Aboud on May 31, 2002, a rare relic of Christian past of the Holy Land. The Israeli military claimed that they were unaware of the church’s significance and demolished it by mistake.

Annie Robbins

Annie Robbins is Editor at Large for Mondoweiss, a human rights activist and a ceramic artist. She lives in the SF bay area. Follow her on Twitter @anniefofani

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  1. annie on December 6, 2015, 12:58 pm

    i would appreciate it if someone who spoke arabic could translate the 4th and 5th paragraphs in this embed (as it appears here in the article). the google translation was a tad sketchy, therefor i did not blockquote it.

    Reportedly, another witness claimed that a soldier grabbed the soldier who shot Barghouthi and took him behind her house, and subsequently, he became the Israeli victim.

    http://www.raya.ps/ar/news/927439.html

    • diasp0ra on December 6, 2015, 1:34 pm

      @Annie

      “An eyewitness tells “Raya” the details of the execution of the Martyr Abdul Rahman: ‘I saw a number of soldiers calling [him] and asking for his identification card. When he reached in his pants pocket to retrieve it they opened fire on him and he fell bloodily to the ground.’

      She added: ‘After that, a soldier approached his colleague who had opened fire and took him behind our house, and it seemed like he asked him to lay on the ground as he poured on his neck some substance with a color similar to the color of blood. He then dropped a knife near the body of the Martyr’.”

      Edit: Annie, in the future if you need any confirmation of something being said or even a translation, don’t hesitate to ask. You have my email, I’m always more than happy to help.

      • annie on December 6, 2015, 2:14 pm

        thank you diasp0ra. very much appreciated and i’ll contact you next time.

      • just on December 6, 2015, 2:19 pm

        Thanks so much, diasp0ra. You are gracious and a wonderful asset to MW. Your voice is important to me.

        I reckon that the mouthpieces of the WH and State Dept will be asked a question or two since Abdul Rahman Barghouthi was a US citizen, and they will mumble the usual propaganda and bs.

        Wonder if Mr. Obama will comment on state- sponsored Israeli terrorism in his speech tonite from the Oval Office.

        wrt “The Jewish Press put it this way: “Arabs stole” Barghouthi’s body.”

        Israel stole his life.

        RIP young and beautiful Palestinian- American man.

  2. cbrace on December 6, 2015, 1:12 pm

    Unbearably sad. What more can one say?

  3. amigo on December 6, 2015, 1:38 pm

    It would appear that the London bobbies know more about arresting knife wielding suspects without having to shoot them , than their counterparts in zioland.

    “A stabbing at a Tube station in east London is being treated as a “terrorist incident”, the Met Police has said.

    Police were called to reports of people being attacked at Leytonstone around 19:00 GMT on Saturday. The knifeman reportedly shouted “this is for Syria”.

    A man was arrested after being Tasered by police. One man suffered serious knife injuries while two others received minor injuries.

    Metropolitan Police counter-terrorism detectives are investigating the case.

    Downing Street said it was monitoring the situation closely.

    The Met said the suspect was reportedly threatening other people with a knife.”

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-35018789

    • bryan on December 6, 2015, 2:01 pm

      Amigo – any competent security force has multiple ways of disarming even lightly armed attackers or undesired protesters. Tasers and even police truncheons often are all that is required in the UK: in this case an armed response unit was called but stayed in the background since its intervention was not required. Even relatively violent demonstrations are often resisted with nothing more lethal than plastic shields and water cannon: one wonders why Israel has such double standards on police activity compared with the rest of the civilised world (P.S. the USA is not within that zone, since a cowboy culture has proliferated there for centuries).

      • annie on December 6, 2015, 2:19 pm

        i read a haaretz article yesterday, just a wrap up of the latest killings. everyone was like shot and killed shot and killed shot and killed. it’s policy now. it’s just shooting people like dogs. not allowing them a voice. we have no idea if the so called perps were even up to anything.

        and this video, you can see the soldier tossing the knife on the ground. i don’t believe israel, i have no idea how many of these so called attacks are attacks or fake.

      • amigo on December 6, 2015, 2:38 pm

        “one wonders why Israel has such double standards on police activity compared with the rest of the civilised world” bryan ,

        These murders have a dual purpose. First they dilute the demographic problem , however s;lowly, and secondly they will eventually gain the response Israel seeks which is resistance on a much larger scale that will afford Israel the opportunity to claim victim status under which they can murder in far greater numbers and continue the goal of a greater Israel.

        Israel is not a civilised nation by any standard.

        That has been the case for decades .

      • Eva Smagacz on December 6, 2015, 3:47 pm

        Water cannon can only be used in UK in Northern Ireland. It cannot be legally used in mainland UK.

      • bryan on December 7, 2015, 3:01 am

        Thanks for the correction Eva, but my further question would be can water-cannon be legally used in Israel as an alternative to Skunk water, tear-gas, stun-grenades, rubber bullets and live ammunition? Might not be practical everywhere but surely in urban areas where hordes of crazed hooligans maraud chanting “Death to Arabs” it would be an excellent and relatively humane way of restoring order?

    • Kay24 on December 6, 2015, 2:35 pm

      The mere fact that Israeli citizens are treated differently, given lenient sentences, and not shot dead like these poor Palestinians, show that these apartheid policies from a fascist state, are not only brutal, but they justify unnecessary deaths of what must be many innocent people by lies, and ugly attempts to demonize these poor kids. The US are enablers to these human rights abuses, and the rest of the world does nothing. It seems Palestinian lives are cheap.

    • John O on December 6, 2015, 6:13 pm

      @amigo

      Lots of footage shot by bystanders, including a segment where someone clearly says to the attacker, “You ain’t no Muslim, bruv.” This has hit the social media – and the MSM – bigtime here in the UK:

      http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/dec/06/youaintnomuslimbruv-leytonstone-paris-hashtag

      • amigo on December 8, 2015, 2:13 pm

        Thanks for that John O.Too bad the naysayers wont open your link.

  4. Ossinev on December 6, 2015, 2:53 pm

    @Annie
    “we have no idea if the so called perps were even up to anything.”

    Simples. They were up to being Palestinian in the Promised Land.

  5. a blah chick on December 6, 2015, 3:20 pm

    “She added: ‘After that, a soldier approached his colleague who had opened fire and took him behind our house, and it seemed like he asked him to lay on the ground as he poured on his neck some substance with a color similar to the color of blood. He then dropped a knife near the body of the Martyr’.”

    Wow, one wonders why they even bother with production values, are the brass getting cold feet over the carnage?

    Annie, concerning the video of the girl at the checkpoint the hasbarists are saying that the soldier found the knife in her backpack. Now let me get this straight, a soldier confiscates a weapon from a potential assassin and then THROWS IT DOWN AT HER FEET where she can pick it up and stab him in the femoral artery?

    Israel has got to have some of the stupidest soldiers on the planet

    • annie on December 6, 2015, 3:32 pm

      i’m not sure how much weight to put on “as he poured on his neck some substance with a color similar to the color of blood.” but i wonder about this wound. it doesn’t make sense he’d travel from his fiancee’s house to his aunts for lunch and stop off to stab a soldier on the way. doesn’t add up.

      • italian ex-pat on December 6, 2015, 6:32 pm

        I agree, Annie. It doesn’t add up. And not just in this case. I could almost believe the Israeli narrative the first couple of times it happened, although shooting dead someone who just pulled a knife on a fully armed soldier seems like over reaction, to put it mildly. But now it’s happening every day, and the result is always the same, the attacker dead and the victim ‘slightly’ injured, or not at all.
        How stupid are we supposed to think these would-be assassins are, who attack a fully weaponized, combat trained soldier, armed with . . . a kitchen knife? They must have gotten the message by now: just show a knife, you are dead. Do they all have a death wish, is this a new way of committing suicide? If the point is to die a martyr, why not strap yourself with explosives and take a few of the enemy down with you?
        The only other answer is that these attacks are a lie, a made up excuse to pump a Palestinian youth full of bullets. In which case, someone ought to tell them the excuse is lame, and also getting old; time to come up with something more believable to feed to the media.

      • annie on December 6, 2015, 6:53 pm

        i think there is a plan in place to normalize (and justify of course) this mass killing of palestinians on even another level. first the mowing the lawn and now the individual blades of grass. no questions asked, no trial, no imprisonment, no nothing. just kill kill kill. where are the governments of the world telling them to stop? instead, they send their police there to get trained to do they same and israel markets itself as security experts? it really doesn’t take an expert to pump a person with lead.

      • just on December 6, 2015, 7:13 pm

        To your point, Annie:

        “Israeli air force strikes targets in Gaza”

        http://www.haaretz.com/misc/breakingnews

        Q: WHY?

        A: Because that’s what Israel does.

      • oldgeezer on December 6, 2015, 11:38 pm

        @annie

        Given the conference called for and hosted by the GoI last May there is every reason to think that normalization and even attempts of codify mass killings is in the works. The main complaint by israel leading to the conference was how international law stood in the way of israel doing what it wanted because of it’s focus on civilians.

        Israelis are a barbaric murderous society. One can only hope the decent minority can win out. And that we get our politicians to serve us instead of zionist bag holders.

      • Marnie on December 7, 2015, 6:02 am

        @Annie “i think there is a plan in place to normalize (and justify of course) this mass killing of palestinians on even another level. first the mowing the lawn and now the individual blades of grass. no questions asked, no trial, no imprisonment, no nothing. just kill kill kill.”

        Annie I think you just hit the nail on the head. Hopefully this will not be coming to a country near and dear to you, but the fascists see it as a win-win situation I’m sure. It’s probably seen as sound economics, court costs saved and no jail terms = more money. That’s what makes za vorld go round. Would probably be applauded by all republicans running for president. The world is in a heap of trouble.

      • annie on December 7, 2015, 6:17 am

        it’s already come to a country near and dear to me.

  6. Herchel on December 6, 2015, 5:10 pm

    All 14 victims killed on cold blood in California were also American citizens. Of course that story doesn’t coalesce with your narative so it was unworthy of a similar article.

    In another shoking turn of events, the male terrorist was vehemently anti-Israel according to his own father. But I’m sure that inconvenient fact will not deter you from continuing to propagate myth that Israel does not face violent savagery by its detractors.

    http://m.jpost.com/Middle-East/ISIS-Threat/My-son-was-obsessed-with-Israel-says-father-of-San-Bernadino-shooter-436454#article=10374NTNBNDgwQjE4QTBEQTBFMEE3MTA4NEI1NUY0QTI2MEM=

    • annie on December 6, 2015, 6:11 pm

      yes herchel, yonah has already informed us of this (mischaracterized) article (and i referenced it here http://mondoweiss.net/2015/12/elliott-abrams-palestine#comment-813811 ). however, being staunchly against israel doesn’t mean one has “violent savagery”. your attempt to drag San Bernardino into this article is noted. and this is not a “shoking turn of events”. after all, the majority of the world is pissed at israel right now, or didn’t you know it was one of the least liked countries in the world?

      also, jposts headline appears to be a lie. the italiam article does not use any term like “obsessed” quoting the father.

    • bryan on December 7, 2015, 11:42 am

      Spot on Herchel – you are right there is a link between violence in Palestine and a small number of incidents of violence that occur in the USA, France and elsewhere. Shall we try and quantify what’s going on? Perhaps you can enlighten us: how many killed in Palestine this year? How many were non-Jews and how many were killed by Israeli Jews? How many have been killed in America this year? How many were killed were by non-Americans, or Muslim Americans? I’m sure the answer to those questions would be absolutely gob-smackingly eye-opening, if you would be so gracious as to assemble the statistics for us. Please respond.

      • bryan on December 7, 2015, 11:44 am

        Please respond -your answer might cast some light on why Israel is so intensely disliked around the world, totally irrespective of what posters on Mondoweiss and human rights groups have to say.

    • eljay on December 7, 2015, 12:19 pm

      || Herchel: All 14 victims killed on cold blood in California were also American citizens. … In another shoking turn of events, the male terrorist was vehemently anti-Israel according to his own father. … ||

      Your argument appears to be this:
      – A serial rapist exists.
      – Someone is pissed off about this, so he kills a few random people.
      – Conclusion: The rapist is justified to continue raping women.

      What happened in California was a terrible crime for which the perpetrators should have been brought to justice and held accountable for their actions.

      What happened in California does not justify the existence of an oppressive, colonialist, expansionist, (war) criminal and religion-supremacist “Jewish State” in Palestine.

    • talknic on December 7, 2015, 6:05 pm

      @ Herchel “All 14 victims killed on cold blood in California were also American citizens. Of course that story doesn’t coalesce with your narative so it was unworthy of a similar article.”

      California is now in the Middle East? WOW!!

    • talknic on December 9, 2015, 6:14 am

      Why is it Israel’s apologist supporters seem to be absolute morons?

      @ Herchel December 6, 2015, 5:10 pm

      “All 14 victims killed on cold blood in California were also American citizens. Of course that story doesn’t coalesce with your narative so it was unworthy of a similar article.”

      “Hatred of Israel was reported motive for CA attack, but US press politely ignores the story”

      http://mondoweiss.net/2015/12/reported-politely-ignores

  7. Herchel on December 6, 2015, 6:21 pm

    didn’t you know it was one of the least liked countries in the world?
    —-

    How proud you must be to be a part of the misinformation apparatus that has contributed to that! Not surprising given the fact that one in four people in the world are muslim and they have been immigrating to western Europe in record numbers. Besides, I didn’t realize that standing up for the just thing means rooting for the winner of the popularity contest.

    being staunchly against israel doesn’t mean one has “violent savagery”

    Yes, I’m sure it was an isolated coincidence that this mass killer of innocent people and manufacturer of pipe bombs and adherent to the religion of peace harbored hatred for Israel and Jews.

    • annie on December 7, 2015, 12:19 am

      actually, it’s the truth more than any misinformation contributing to israel downhill trajectory. truth like mowing the lawn. but i am proud of the work i do — yes.

      Not surprising given the fact that one in four people in the world are muslim and they have been immigrating to western Europe in record numbers.

      according to the bbc poll the least popular are Israel, North Korea, Pakistan and Iran. http://www.haaretz.com/world-news/bbc-poll-israel-among-world-s-least-popular-nations-1.525890 so if your theory were correct why would pakistan and iran be on that list? lots of muslims in both those countries.

      harbored hatred for Israel and Jews

      what evidence do you have either of the killers harbored a hatred for jews? you sound bitter and grasping for straws. you said i “propagate myth that Israel does not face violent savagery by its detractors. “

      there’s no myth, 99.9% of israel’s detractors (the global majority) israel does not face “violent savagery” from. not even isis is going after israel. you want to see violent savagery just look at the occupation. israel reaps what it sows — deservedly, and then cowardly whines about rocks and pocket knives and then hasbrats like you try to usurp collective sympathy from domestic attacks in southern california. it’s mentally deranged. this was not a synagogue or kosher grocery, it was a christmas party and a workplace. israel faces a threat because of it’s occupation, not because palestinians are muslims or christians. it’s the zionism stupid. not because they’re jews. like oldgeezer said, israel is a barbaric murderous society. that’s why people don’t like them (however i do have friends there i like — a lot).

      and please use the reply function [s]. don’t start another subthread. or if you do and it gets deleted try posting again under an old one.

    • Marnie on December 7, 2015, 6:10 am

      As long as you pretend the zionist state is the victim here, you’ll never be free. That you can come to these pages and look at these photographs and still claim its the Israeli Jews that are the victims is incomprehensible. You must be suicidal.

  8. niass2 on December 6, 2015, 11:36 pm

    herchel, interesting I just had lunch for hanukah with my father in law, a staunchly pro isreali American, who will kill for Isreal. he said many things that would upset you, and that as far as he can tell israel is committing suicide. he uses the Apartheid term daily without hesitating. So, you are in the minority, sorry about that, but even many highly educated American lovers of israel and Judaism with some sense can clearly see how this ends, i.e. by kicking the Zio Crazies to the Curb with our extensive cash donations and by showing them to be just like the south africans. Thus, yes, this will soon be over. Jews like me will win, and the Zio Crazies will be sent away to where the belong, in a museum somewhere. Yes he has a LOT of money. . That’s what he said today. And I am sure he is more Pro Israel than you, forcing his daughter in law into their army etc. People like u just don’t know anyone, except some haters and rabbis who should be wearing white sheets.. We are Doctors, not white supremacists, not schoolyard bullies from south boston, not reflexive savages. People like you destroy my beloved religion daily. Go beat up some other ethnic group, and leave us normal Jews and the Palestinians alone for once. He said he sees people like you at temple. he says they are always the same ones with the family issues, that we wont get into, like divorces, alcoholism, hanging out with fundamentalist christians and other stuff. The anti zio Jews he knows are all fun happy people, and he talked about the difference all day today., and how uncomfortable he feels around some of his colleagues who are now clinically gonzo. So… see ya. so glad not to be like you, defender of the undefensable, did something happen to you, or you just have no compassion, no understanding of anything except your abyynnormal savage perception of what to say about Isreals crazy and atrocious behavior. Netanyahu’s behavior this past year has been so normal, wouldnt u agree>? Since you are so sure you are right and everyone else is wrong, you should have no issues anymore. See ya on tour someday. When your standing in the pouring rain. In the meantime go sell your wares. Maybe someone will buy some.

  9. Kay24 on December 7, 2015, 6:32 am

    Now we can anticipate Congress threatening to cut off aid to Israel, for killing a US citizen, since we know just how stern Congress can be with Israel whenever it acts like an out of control rogue nation, that consistently disregards international laws and acts like vicious killers…..nah no way.

  10. just on December 7, 2015, 6:47 am

    Sickening:

    “An Israeli military court in the West Bank sentenced Palestinian legislator Khalida Jarrar to 15 months in jail on Monday in the wake of a plea bargain between the military prosecutor and her defense lawyers. Jarrar was charged with security-related offenses.

    The court also handed her a 10-month suspended sentence and fined her 10,000 shekels ($2,600).

    According to the plea bargain, Jarrar’s indictment was amended so that she was convicted on one count of belonging to an illegal organization and another of incitement. She is a member of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine. The court noted that Jarrar was not being tried for being a member of the Palestinian parliament but rather for her activity in the PFLP.

    Jarrar’s attorney, Mahmoud Hassan from the “Admir” legal center, said that she only agreed to the plea deal because she doesn’t trust the court. “She doesn’t expect [to receive] any justice from the court of the occupation, especially when the prosecution says that she will be held under an administrative detention order should” the court order her release, he said.

    Jarrar, a mother of two, was arrested from her West Bank home on April 2, in what her husband said was a pre-dawn raid by dozens of masked Israeli soldiers who climbed over courtyard walls and broke down the door. She has been charged with inciting to violence and with membership in the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, a small leftist PLO faction banned by Israel.

    “The decision of the occupation authorities to jail a member of parliament because of her political stance, and after eight months of administrative detention, proves that the Israeli government is bent on aggravating the escalation,” MK Aida Touma-Suliman (Joint List) said. “This government has nothing to offer but scaring Israelis and oppressing and disinheriting Palestinians.”

     Jarrar, said MK Touma-Suliman, is a woman who fights for peace, the legitimate rights of her people, which is under occupation, justice, democracy and equality for women in her society. She added that Jarrar belongs in the legislature, not in jail.” …

    read more: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.690481

    She’s obviously correct not to trust anything that is Israel. Israel does not do justice, peace, truth, good, or moral. When will Americans of all stripes see this?

    • Citizen on December 7, 2015, 8:31 am

      They won’t because the US main news-infotainment media is essentially an Israeli house organ.

    • Kay24 on December 7, 2015, 8:32 am

      So much for the only “democracy” in the Middle East. Wow, what a beacon of shining light.

      Israel tries hard to give the world such a wonderful image, but the truth is ugly, violent, vicious, unfair, and just a false front zio style.

      • on December 7, 2015, 10:06 am

        Not really, Israels seem pretty content with its ill reputation in the Middle East and Europe. It only tries to put on a democratic oasis in the desert facade to Americans, particularly white Americans who in my opinion has been told worst lies. For example, their leaders and government telling them that they are superior beings due to their lack of melanin, and its okay for them to kill and maim and steal and occupy land because of it. Unlike Israel, the government have been lying to the white Americans for over 500 years and is still insisting on their lies. Given this fact, I honestly don’t see whats the big deal with Israel’s comparatively harmless lies to white Americans.

  11. Michael Rabb on December 7, 2015, 10:53 am

    Rashid Khalidi, Brokers of Deceit: https://books.google.com/books?id=LHYPnxwPnlwC&pg=RA1-PT103&lpg=RA1-PT103&dq=Doing+any+of+these+things+of+course+would+require+numerous+prerequisites+that+today+do+not+exist,+from+a+unified+Palestinian+leadership+to+a+Palestinian+national+consensus+on+how+to+proceed.&source=bl&ots=vvEj6TLzgT&sig=NHLVhTNPs3drTHAHk166vOsHpWQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjR8tjHwMrJAhVU_mMKHfYKAXIQ6AEIHTAA#v=onepage&q=Doing%20any%20of%20these%20things%20of%20course%20would%20require%20numerous%20prerequisites%20that%20today%20do%20not%20exist%2C%20from%20a%20unified%20Palestinian%20leadership%20to%20a%20Palestinian%20national%20consensus%20on%20how%20to%20proceed.&f=false

    the only remaining option for the Palestinians would be a unified demand for full, equal democratic rights in a single state in all of Palestine/Israel. Doing any of these things of course would require numerous prerequisites that today do not exist, from a unified Palestinian leadership to a Palestinian national consensus on how to proceed. These will not be easy to achieve, given how invested so many actors are in Palestinian weakness and disunity. They would also require uncommon courage in the face of the furious resistance to be expected from the two main pillars, and the sole beneficiaries, of the status quo: the United States and Israel.

    If they fail to do these things, or to take similarly radical steps, however, the Palestinians cannot complain about American bias, Israeli oppression, the two-facedness of the Arab regimes, or international indifference, real although all these phenomena are. If the Palestinians do not help themselves, and transform that part of reality which is largely in their own power, nothing can begin to change in their situation, nor can anyone be expected to act on their behalf. Self-reliance of this sort is the essential first step, the sine qua non, required to change the pernicious status quo under which the Palestinian people have suffered for so many years.

  12. lysias on December 7, 2015, 11:51 am

    A U.S. airstrike is said by the Syrian government to have killed three Syrian soldiers Sunday night.

    U.S. denies Syrian accusations that its warplanes hit a Syrian base.

    Who to believe? Well, we know the Pentagon lies. And who else would have conducted this bombing?

    This shows how things can go wrong in the Coalition’s bombing offensive. What if it had been Russians who were killed?

  13. MaxNarr on December 7, 2015, 2:13 pm

    Please show one piece of evidence an IDF soldier has ever planted a knife on a terrorist.

    • annie on December 7, 2015, 2:51 pm

    • MaxNarr on December 7, 2015, 3:07 pm

      He recovers the knife from her at 1:28 and throws it to safety so she may not harm him or anyone else as intended.

      • annie on December 7, 2015, 4:37 pm

        neither of them are in lens view at 1:28. your hypothesis aside, there’s no evidence she was holding a knife.

      • MaxNarr on December 7, 2015, 4:59 pm

        Annie, you have no evidence the knife was planted. Please provide clear evidence. Why does the camera pan right and leave her out of view at the very moment she is perpetrating the attack? Seems quite odd.

      • annie on December 7, 2015, 5:40 pm

        max, you have no evidence he “recovers” a knife from her. at 1:27 you can see another soldier enter into the screen from the right. there is a man standing in the way of the person with the camera (who is in a vehicle at a checkpoint) and the girl who you cannot see. it appears as tho when the other soldiers enters into view the camera briefly moves to center him in the camera and then pans back. it’s interesting you would choose this one brief second (1:28) when the camera pans to claim she was attacking him and he was taking knife from the girl. and this alleged scenario is not at all reflected in the steps of the other soldier who is just sauntering by calm as ever.

        whereas, it is abundantly clear the soldier places a knife on the ground. that is not in dispute. why would he place the knife on the ground? what logic?

  14. just on December 7, 2015, 7:28 pm

    Shooting innocent Palestinians is a- ok, but this is not. The much vaunted morality of the IOF is at risk!

    “Two Israeli Soldiers Allegedly Shoot Animals on Leave; Army Police Launches Investigation

    Soldiers, who may face charges of animal cruelty and illegal use of firearms, were suspended from active duty.

    Two Israeli army soldiers may face charges of animal cruelty and illegal use of firearms, after they allegedly shot at animals while on leave. Army Police has opened an investigation into the matter, and the soldiers were suspended from active duty pending the completion…

    The IDF Spokesperson’s Unit said that “this is a serious incident which doesn’t accord with what’s expected out of IDF soldiers.”

    Israeli soldiers were jailed in the past for animal cruelty. In 2012, a soldier who poured boiling water on a stray cat was sentenced for 30 days in prison and five months probation. He also received a fine and was demoted.”

    read more: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.690617?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

    Nah, it’s expected that they murder and maim Palestinians, not dogs and cats. And please don’t make me laugh with the “illegal use of firearms” schtick!!!

  15. Qualtrough on December 7, 2015, 11:04 pm

    Annie, regarding the knife planting incident. Who are you going to believe, MaxNarr or your lying eyes?

    • MaxNarr on December 8, 2015, 12:44 am

      Qualtrough, the blood libel that Jewish soldiers plant knives to frame Arabs is a lie.

      It is an invention from those who believe Jewish blood is cheap and it’s ok to stab Jews. time and time again users on this website @talknic and others have said it’s A-OK to stab so called “settlers” in Jerusalem and Judea.

      So make up your mind, either you think it’s fine to murder Jews by knife attack because you believe them to be illegal in the Land, or, those evil Jews are just framing Arabs.

      • annie on December 8, 2015, 9:06 am

        the blood libel that Jewish soldiers

        more moral army drivel? uh huh. the same army that lays in wait and sadistically hunts children like animals (remembering Yusef Shawamreh). this “blood libel” talk doesn’t phase me, for the most part it’s over wrought, over used, and propaganda.

      • eljay on December 8, 2015, 9:22 am

        || MaxNarr: Qualtrough, the blood libel that Jewish soldiers plant knives … ||

        Israeli soldiers. Why do you continue to anti-Semitically conflate Israel with Jews and Jews with Israel? Why do you hate Jews so much?

        || … It is an invention from those who believe Jewish blood is cheap … ||

        It’s not nearly as cheap as the non-Jewish blood you hateful and immoral Zio-supremacists have been gleefully shedding for almost 70 years.

      • oldgeezer on December 8, 2015, 10:19 am

        @max

        Blood libel my a**. In the first instance we are not talking about Jewish soldiers but the idf. Not all idf members are Jewish. In the second instance, regardless of this moral army crap, individuals in the idf have murdered people in cold blood so planting evidence is hardly out of bounds.

        It is not ok to kill innocents. It is not okbto summarily execute innocents or the guilty. It is not ok to plant evidence. Jews are not evil but that doesn’t preclude the fact that some can be just as some people of any faith can be.

      • talknic on December 8, 2015, 10:45 am

        @ MaxNarr “@talknic and others have said it’s A-OK to stab so called “settlers” in Jerusalem and Judea”

        Quote me … thx

      • Mooser on December 8, 2015, 12:13 pm

        “So make up your mind, either you think it’s fine to murder Jews by knife attack”

        You know, “MaxNarr”, I live in the US, and maybe you could answer a question about Palestine for me. Where are all the Palestinian’s guns?
        They don’t even seem to have the normal amount everybody needs for personal protection, you know, like in the US. What happened? Don’t they have a 2nd Amendment?

        I mean, gosh, from the fact that they can’t even get their hands on proper firearms, I might suspect they are a very peaceful people, not accustomed at all to personal or organized violence.

      • Mooser on December 8, 2015, 12:39 pm

        ” the blood libel that Jewish soldiers plant knives to frame Arabs is a lie.”

        “MaxNarr” stop blaming the Jews. When they win a victory, they are glorious Israelis.
        When they do something (or are suspected of doing something) wrong, all of a sudden they are “Jewish soldiers”.
        Stop blaming the Jews.
        Zionists do that constantly. They blame Judaism, the Jews, or the Jewish condition for everything they do.

  16. Ossinev on December 8, 2015, 6:43 am

    @MaxNarr
    “He recovers the knife from her at 1:28 and throws it to safety so she may not harm him or anyone else as intended.”

    “Throws the knife to safety” “Throws the knife to safety” “Throws the knife to safety”. No I just can`t register this one. I keep imagining all these IDF “situation” briefings where a camp 6 foot tall 15 stone Sergeant wearing a pink kippah is demonstrating how to delicately pick up a knife and “throw it to safety”.

    Have you considered a career in comedy writing.

    • diasp0ra on December 8, 2015, 10:16 am

      @Ossinev

      IDF military protocol:

      “Quick! Having disarmed this dangerous teenager, drop the knife right next to her where she can easily pick it up again!”

      How stupid do they think we are?

  17. talknic on December 8, 2015, 11:09 am

    @MaxNarr “He recovers the knife from her at 1:28 and throws it to safety so she may not harm him or anyone else as intended.”

    WOW. Max can see what happens off camera. That’s amazing!!

    Seems odd tho that @ 1:32 the guy in the light coloured shirt, who was extremely close to the girl, quickly backs off when the soldier suddenly brandishes a previously unseen knife.

    @ 1:33 he throws the knife to the ground IN FRONT OF HER then makes her pick it up, despite her obvious protestations.

    I wonder why he wanted her to pick the knife up if as you magically witnessed he’d just taken it away from her?

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