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One of the most interesting results of Super Tuesday is that the anti-establishment candidate in the Republican race is soaring, Donald Trump, while the anti-establishment candidate on the Dem side is just sputtering along, Bernie Sanders. And while politics is a great mystery, one likely reason for Trump’s success is that he has taken on the establishment foreign policy in the Republican Party– neoconservatism, which gave us the Iraq war– while Sanders has largely laid off the establishment foreign policy in the Democratic Party, liberal interventionism, which also gave us the Iraq tragedy.

Trump’s critique has put him at war with the neoconservatives. Neoconservative godfather Bill Kristol is stunned that Trump may actually capture the support of Republican establishment figures. Lately he compared Trump to Hitler.

What’s depressing is how many conservatives are behaving like Austria.

Kristol used another Hitler metaphor, “appeasement,” in a piece bewailing Trump’s effect on the party:

it’s worth fighting to save a respectable political party, an admirable political movement, and a great country from a charlatan and a demagogue. There’s nothing inspiring about the appeasement of Donald Trump.

Some neocons are panicking or moving over to Hillary Clinton already. Kristol, of course, still holds out hope for Marco Rubio. As do many other neocons, Zaid Jilani reports at the Intercept:

In his quest to take up George W. Bush’s mantle, Rubio has arrayed a fleet of neoconservative funders, ranging from pro-Israel billionaire Paul Singer to Norman Braman, a billionaire auto dealer who funds Israeli settlements in the West Bank. His list of advisers is like a rolodex of Iraq War backers, ranging from Bush administration alumni Elliot Abrams and Stephen Hadley, to [Hillary Clinton supporter Robert] Kagan and serial war propagandist Bill Kristol.

But Rubio had a less-than-impressive night last night; and Scott McConnell at the American Conservative says that we may be witnessing an realignment, in which the neocons are purged from the Republican Party and they cross the aisle to the Dems in order to maintain their outsized influence.

The escalation of personal rhetoric has meant that there is now no chance that Rubio would be selected as Trump veep, which would be one way in which neoconservatives could enter the foreign-policy apparatus of the next administration. It has long been clear that Rubio represented the neoconservatives’ best chance for restoration: his campaign was overlaid with a kind of neocon signaling, from the core “New American Century” slogan (evocative of PNAC) to the prominence of certain advisors, to the hawkish positions on every conceivable foreign policy issue, to the the lockstep adherence to Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu’s positions…

If… the neoconservatives continue their migration towards Hillary, the end result will a race in which the Republican candidate is running to the left of the Democratic candidate, at least in terms of the social base of his coalition and on foreign policy. This would amount to a major realignment in American politics, certainly one more dramatic than anything we’ve seen in the postwar era.

Some say that the Rubio-Trump war has destroyed the Republican Party. Ben Sasse, Nebraska Senator, announced that he will go for a third party candidate:

If Donald Trump becomes the Republican nominee, my expectation is that I will look for some third candidate

The neoconservatives surely brought this destruction on the party by imposing a hawkish foreign policy on the Republican establishment. Kristol once bragged that he had purged the James Baker-Brent Scowcroft Realists from the party in the 1990s, but the lesson of Trump’s rise is that the Republican establishment then abandoned a truly conservative principle, don’t intervene; and GOP voters don’t like regime change. One response on twitter to Kristol:

Trump is karma coming back to kick neocons in the ass for the Iraq debacle

McConnell points out that the neoconservative rage at Chris Christie for backing Trump and thereby forgetting all his foreign policy coaching echoes the neocon exasperation at George W. Bush for forgetting some of his lines in his second term. “[T]he big shock to me has been that although the president said the words, he just did not absorb the ideas,” his former speechwriter David Frum wrote.

Many on the right are jubilant over the neoconservative panic. At antiwar.com, Justin Raimondo declares that Trump has killed neoconservatism inside the Republican Party and some day he might even indict neocons for war crimes. Raimondo ascribes Trump’s rise to a thoughtful populist movement. Even the evangelical Christians who are supposed to love Israel are going for Trump because they don’t like regime change.

Both Rubio and Cruz are attacking Trump for his declaration that he would be “evenhanded” when it comes to resolving the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. The neoconservative orthodoxy that insists on unconditional support for Israeli actions, no matter how vicious and cruel — and in spite of how inimical it is to American interests – is being successfully challenged by Trump. What has everyone surprised is that evangelical voters, who were supposed to be in Cruz’s camp, have been won over by Trump – and this in spite of his supposedly “anti-Israel” stance…

What really horrifies them, however, is Trump’s sharp critique of the Iraq war, which he calls “a complete disaster,” and his condemnation of George W. Bush’s legacy. He dared not only to question the dogma that “Bush kept us safe,” but he also targeted the neocons who surrounded him:

“They lied. They said there were weapons of mass destruction and there were none. And they knew there were none. There were no weapons of mass destruction.”

This is why the neocons are determined to destroy Trump. After all, if The Donald says he’s ready to prosecute Hillary over her emails, why wouldn’t he go after the neocons for lying us into war – for causing the death of many thousands under false pretenses? Trump can be vindictive – and this is one area where one can only hope that he lives up to his reputation.

Raimondo says that an Emergency Committee for Israel ad aimed at Trump because he loves dictators may only have driven voters to support Trump, because it reminds them that neoconservatives supported regime change in Iraq and in Syria and want another cold war with Russia. Here’s that ad.

 

Again, the chief contrast here is to the Democratic side.

Bernie Sanders opposed Hillary Clinton’s Iraq war vote energetically, but he has never tried to animate the base by extending his critique by stating, she’s never seen a regime change she didn’t like. While Trump has directly taken on the neoconservative donor base of the Republican establishment and called out Sheldon Adelson, Sanders has never that I’m aware of called out Adelson’s billionaire Democratic double, Haim Saban, who has committed Hillary Clinton to support Israel. Sanders obviously feels safe slamming Clinton for her friendship with 70s bad-guy Henry Kissinger; but he has never gone after her friendship with the universally-despised Benjamin Netanyahu. That would be one way to try and rally African-American support, but Sanders hasn’t gone there yet. Maybe he will take some anti-establishment cues from Donald Trump.

 

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  1. Theo
    Theo
    March 2, 2016, 12:44 pm

    Yes, I am also wondering about Bernie, does he want to win, or is this only a prearranged piece of theater? After the results of yesterday he either puts his candidacy into the second gear, or he will finish far behind as a second.
    He is fighting great odds. Hillary is a well known political figure since 30 years, and to be honest, I have never heard of Sanders until last year or so. He is a political unknown. In addition Hillary has the support of money magnates with billions to spend, Bernie cannot match that, and always money decides who will win. He must imitate Trump, tell the voters what Hillary did during the past decades and warn them what can we expect from her. In other words, no more gentleman and satin gloves.

    I remember what the democratic party was 60 years ago, when John Kennedy was getting ready for the presidency, and what it is today. According to Jill Steiner it became the property of big finance and war manufacturers, forgetting why it was grounded, to represent the working class, not the billionairs.
    Hillary is a bought and paid for zionist property of big business, and should she reach the WH, we can be sure to have another war against “terror”, because it is a great business for the banks and weapons manufacturers.

  2. Krauss
    Krauss
    March 2, 2016, 1:27 pm

    The definition of a RINO is Bill Kristol. Look at the unending rage of Jennifer Rubin towards Chris Christie (“He’s RUINED now! RUINED I tell you!”).

    Honestly, these people never cared for the Republican base or probably dont even have many Republican friends. They only joined the GOP because their primary loyalty is to Israel.

    That’s what Buchanan said (correctly) and got run out of the party mainstream in the 90s – with the help of liberal Zionists in the media.

    I’ve never cared for conservative social policies. I hate the reactionary stances of a Buchanan but if we are going to have a conservative opposition, at least let it be genuine. Let it be pro-America, in the sense that the people are primarily concerned with the welfare of the nation, not Israel. Let it be restrained, as genuine conservatism is and always will be.

    Neocons were always agents of Israel. There was never anything conservative about endless military interventions. That’s just the reality, there’s zero point whatsoever to sugarcoat that issue.

    You’d think from all the outrage in the media that they are half the party but this brouhaha exactly exposes their isolation. They are a small clique in the Beltway who have no connection to the GOP at all. They only exist in the media rags they’ve bought up like the Weekly Standard or in DC think tanks. That’s it.

    Their #1 candidate wasn’t Rubio. It was actually Graham. Rubio is a weak-sauce Lindsay Graham. Now he got butchered on Super Tuesday.

    Honestly, I can’t wait to see them being run out of the GOP. Remember, they would be demanding loyalty to the party if they were in control. Now they are asking for a debate. The assholes know the other side is far too gentle to be as ruthless as you should be with these vermin.

    • Mooser
      Mooser
      March 2, 2016, 7:59 pm

      ” Let it be restrained, as genuine conservatism is and always will be.”

      At the base of American conservatism is the desire and intent to overturn the civil-rights laws, and return America to a place where race and religious discrimination is legal.
      That, my friend, is the big freedom that conservatives say we are losing- the ‘freedom’ to discriminate.
      That’s been about the size of it for a half-century, of course, by now there’s layers of obfuscation.
      That hardly seems “restrained” to me.

    • lysias
      lysias
      March 3, 2016, 10:32 am

      The neocon media have made a big deal of the photos of Christie standing behind Trump in which he does not look too happy. They have not published the picture that was on the front page of the Daily Mail which shows Christie at the same press conference standing behind Trump and laughing and smiling, presumably over something Christie just said.

      • MRW
        MRW
        March 4, 2016, 3:59 am

        Reporters who cover Christie said today on NPR that it is his standard “standing behind someone” face, that they had seen it many times before.

  3. Steve Grover
    Steve Grover
    March 2, 2016, 1:28 pm

    Phil likes to stretch things a bit. Kristol made no comparison of Trump and Hitler. I think Phil just wishes he did. Netanyahu universally despised? Another Phil Weiss dream. Keep on dreaming!

    • US Citizen
      US Citizen
      March 2, 2016, 10:37 pm

      Yitzhak Rabin, Anwar Sadat, Mikhail Gorbachev, F.W. de Klerk, and many others came to recognize the new realities but Nuttinyahoo ? He is an aging out of touch has-been in 2016, the 21st century, still clinging to the idiot tenant that he and his failed, apartheid policies will prevail. Nutty was a mess the first time around and he has confirmed he has been a mess for the rest of his time in office.

      His vision of peace? Go back to his Newsweek interview April 20, 1998.
      “At the end of the final settlement, the Palestinians would have their own territory and the ability to govern themselves, but none of the powers that could threaten Israel.” Nothing, nothing has changed.

      He has painted himself and Israel into a corner, surrounded by states that loathe both of them. Their hubris, arrogance and sense of entitlement based on the ridiculous credo of “God’s chosen people”, has left them discredited, unmasked, de-legitimized, scorned, reduced to a diplomatic dwarf, maniacally messianic fanatics, laughed at and alienated from the rest of the international community. THAT will be his well deserved legacy. THAT is why he is despised.

      • Theo
        Theo
        March 3, 2016, 10:54 am

        Amen, brother, you hit the nail on the head. One must wonder, how could they fool so many so long!

      • eljay
        eljay
        March 3, 2016, 11:44 am

        || US Citizen: … Nutty was a mess the first time around and he has confirmed he has been a mess for the rest of his time in office. … He has painted himself and Israel into a corner, surrounded by states that loathe both of them. Their hubris, arrogance and sense of entitlement based on the ridiculous credo of “God’s chosen people”, has left them discredited, unmasked, de-legitimized, scorned, reduced to a diplomatic dwarf, maniacally messianic fanatics, laughed at and alienated from the rest of the international community. … ||

        It’s true that for decades Israel has been engaged in (war) crimes, land theft, occupation, colonialism, in-your-face supremacism, oppression, torture, murder, intransigence, belligerence.

        And it’s true that Israel incessantly – and anti-Semitically – conflates Israel with all Jews and all Jews with Israel.

        But Bibi’s got a plan: He’s going to build a fence around (Greater) Israel.

        And that will fix everything. It can’t possibly fail.

      • Steve Grover
        Steve Grover
        March 3, 2016, 11:59 am

        Eljay,
        Israel is already great. Greater is unnecessary hyperbole.

      • eljay
        eljay
        March 3, 2016, 12:36 pm

        || Steve Grover: Eljay, Israel is already great. … ||

        I agree that Israel is already a great evil.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        March 3, 2016, 7:14 pm

        “Israel is already great. Greater is unnecessary hyperbole.”

        Whoa! I love the way “Stevie” gets those zingers past the Mods! Why, I bet they don’t even know what hit ’em til they see it on the page.
        That’s some powerful stuff, “Steve”

  4. March 2, 2016, 1:31 pm

    Another article, after a whole pile of others before it, being pumped out by Phil in Trump’s favor. Whitewashing his rhetorics, sanitizing his campaign, and legitimizing his methods towards presidency. I sense it won’t be long before Phil finally drops his progressive leftist facade, throw his brown allies under the bus and embracing his true nature as a Trump supporter.

    • Krauss
      Krauss
      March 2, 2016, 2:05 pm

      Congratulations, you’ve outed yourself as an idiot on the internet.

      Phil isn’t interested in a clown like Trump. He’s interested in what Trump represents in terms of foreign policy shifts within the GOP and the American political scene. Therein lies the difference. You still don’t understand that. And judging from your steady output of low quality posts, you likely never will.

      • March 2, 2016, 3:16 pm

        Being seen an idiot, by a bunch of idiots in the internet is not really that bad of a thing. I don’t mind it at all.

        Anti establishment ideals have long existed within the American political scene across the left-right spectrum, there is no need to associate these sentiments to Trump specifically.

      • Eric
        Eric
        March 2, 2016, 3:50 pm

        Trump is not a clown. He’s become the people’s choice, and most assuredly the 2016 Republican nominee. Rubio, Cruz and the departed Jeb are much more clownish, taking orders from their Zionist cheque writing masters and embarrassing themselves with their subservient devotion to “the cause.” Trump is his own man, which America hasn’t had in the White House since Bush Sr.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        March 2, 2016, 3:57 pm

        “And judging from your steady output…”

        Don’t worry, “Krauss”. I think it’s been handled.

      • Theo
        Theo
        March 3, 2016, 11:05 am

        Eric

        “Trump ist his own man, what America did not have in the WH since Bush. Sr.”

        You went back in history a bit too short. The last independent president we had was John Kennedy, Johnson was already bought by the NWO. Do you remember the israeli attack on our SS. Liberty and how Johnson stopped any intervention by our air force? The planes were already in the air and were ordered back by Washington, leaving our sailors open to additional attacks.

        Trump is an agent provocateur, he really mixes up our stinking political establishment. Do we want him to be our next president, I am not so sure. On the other hand the congress can act as a controlling device if he goes berserk.

    • kalithea
      kalithea
      March 2, 2016, 2:30 pm

      You’re missing the forest for the trees.

    • echinococcus
      echinococcus
      March 2, 2016, 4:49 pm

      Can we finally stop that “progressive leftist” blah-blah that means strictly zilch even on a sunny day and, speaking of sunny, put it somewhere really dark, already?
      Trump is playing the fascist allright, but he already told the Zionist lobby that they cannot buy him. He also announced his intention to behave as an honest broker.
      Just there, he scr*ws over all your “progressive” and half-progressive and perhaps-progressive criminals and that’s it.
      The only common criterion on this site, I’ll trouble you, is support to Palestinian resistance and you are slowly but surely becoming a source of severe swelling. Which I suppose was your goal all along.

      • March 4, 2016, 11:56 am

        “The only common criterion on this site, I’ll trouble you, is support to Palestinian resistance ” – Echinnocous

        Are you a Palestinian? Who gave you the permission to co-opt the Palestinian struggle for liberty and self determination, as if you have some sort of divine obligation to help these poor brown folks due to your superior traits and higher culture? What are you trying to say, the new white men’s burden is to save these poor little brownies from the mean Jewish baddies?

        If so, then I would humbly request for you to go eat shit. Palestinians have been fighting for their rights for over 70 years, most of it with little outside recognition or help. They don’t need your patronizing sympathies nor your guilt ridden offer of support truly. If you want to support Palestinians, you do it on their terms otherwise you can shove your support somewhere warm.

        Last time I checked, Trump is physically threatening the well being of Palestinian-Americans through his incendiary rhetorics on Muslims and immigrants. He is empowering and mobilizing white supremacists who hate Palestinians as much as any Zionist would, if not more in a country where they are especially vulnerable. Seriously, how could someone claim to be supporting Palestinians who are majority Muslim, by praising Trump’s stance against purported Zionist influence?

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        March 4, 2016, 12:46 pm

        “If so, then I would humbly request for you to go eat shit.”

        So, who are you? You wanna tell people to “go eat shit”, why don’t you tell us what qualifies you to make these judgements.

        Nothing you say agrees with what real Palestinians say. You are doing nothing but trying to incite a racist response. You are so patently phony!

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus
        March 4, 2016, 1:00 pm

        I’m not “coopting” anything. I am visiting a site and commenting in it under the belief or illusion that the common topic that brings diverse people here is that of support to (or attack against) the Palestinian resistance.
        If there were no such basic incentive, of course I wouldn’t ever have any interest to be here reading the deranged gibberish you and several others have been posting all along.

      • Sibiriak
        Sibiriak
        March 4, 2016, 1:35 pm

        echinococcus: Trump is playing the fascist allright, but he already told the Zionist lobby that they cannot buy him.
        —————–

        Why would they need to buy him? He’s already said he’s 100% in favor of moving the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem. That’s a pretty good indication of where he stands, isn’t it?

        He also announced his intention to behave as an honest broker.

        Yeah, an “honest broker” in one more round of a completely fraudulent, Israel-controlled, Zionist-serving “peace process.” Hallelujah!

        All this “Trump cannot be bought!”-optimism reflects a (sometimes willful) blindness to how deeply-rooted Zionism is in the American elite, and a huge part of the populace as well.

        (Not to say that Trump might not be a lesser evil than H.C.)

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus
        March 4, 2016, 4:29 pm

        Sibiriak,

        I thought it was perfectly clear that this is all about the statements and the marketing of himself by Trump. No one can try to predict the action to follow, especially with such a master actor.
        And, looking at the marketing, it sure beats that of the two imperialist stooges for the Dims. Just the fact of his choosing this sort-of defiance of the lobby and the pronunciamiento concerning foreign policy makes him automatically the far better choice for lesser evilists (not my thing anyway.)
        It’s not, in fact it’s never about any substance or verifiable probabilities in re elections. Of course I agree with your comments re content.

      • March 6, 2016, 12:56 pm

        “I’m not “coopting” anything. I am visiting a site and commenting in it under the belief or illusion that the common topic that brings diverse people here is that of support to (or attack against) the Palestinian resistance” – Echinnnocus

        No, what you are doing is exercising your undue white male privilege and entitlement to patronizingly be concerned for the poor brown folks who don’t know any better. I have no idea why would some random person who has zero stake in either Palestine or Israel would do this, but I’m sure it’s for self-serving purposes more than anything. If you truly want to support Palestinians, you would allow them to lead their struggles, instead of trying to stand alongside them as if you have equal stakes to gain or lose through your support.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        March 6, 2016, 1:28 pm

        “No, what you are doing is exercising your undue white male privilege and entitlement” “rugal b”

        Nobody is asked anything, not a single goddam thing, about their “race” religion, extraction, place of birth, or ideology or world-view when registering for Mondo.
        All a person needs is a “handle” or name, and an e-mail address.

        If you want to write a long “profile” detailing all those things about yourself, “rugal b” at your archive, you go right ahead. That way people will know who they are dealing with. Or even whom they are dealing with. I will ask “RoHa” about that, count on it.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        March 6, 2016, 3:20 pm

        “I have no idea why would some random person who has zero stake in either Palestine or Israel would do this, but I’m sure it’s for self-serving purposes more than anything.” “rugal b”

        You, “rugal b” are a very, very cognizant person! You have formulated and expressed (even if rather inelegantly) the exact same question everybody is asking themselves about you! Sorry, pal, getting the answer by inference from your comments (meaning the comments would have to be taken seriously, as real) doesn’t work. You spin way, way too fast.

        Feel like answering it? Can you explain why not ever answering that question is supposed to add to your credibility. Thou art free, but others your questions must abide?

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        March 6, 2016, 3:39 pm

        “If you truly want to support Palestinians, you would allow them to lead their struggles, instead of trying to stand alongside them as if you have equal stakes to gain or lose through your support.”

        What a great idea! All the Palestinian-solidarity organizations should sign up to the struggle on a contingency basis! That way, they’ll have some skin in the game, you know? And the thought of the beautiful houses and land they will receive if the Palestinians are successful, will motivate the hell out of them.

        The only thing your comment lacks, “rugal b” is a link to all the Palestinian-solidarity organizations telling the rest of the world to leave them the hell alone to deal with the Zionists. Or setting the contingency rates.
        Hey, but who needs that when “rugal b” is speaking for them?

        “Seriously, how could someone claim to be supporting Palestinians who are majority Muslim, by praising Trump’s stance against purported Zionist influence?”

        I like that one. Makes me wanna sing. “To everything, spin, spin, spin, there is a season, spin, spin, spin, and always a time to leave Israel aloooooone!”

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        March 6, 2016, 3:55 pm

        And there’s no gender-discrimination in registering for Mondo, either.
        Just one question: “Sex?” And you can answer ‘yes’, or ‘no’.
        And edit the answer at any time, too.

      • tree
        tree
        March 6, 2016, 7:36 pm

        I’m quite sure that rugal b is a young white male.

        …and a troll with two purposes- create divisions between white and black supporters of Palestinian resistance (while at the same time promoting white Jewish support for Palestinian resistance as somehow more noble and sincere than non-Jewish white support)- and guilt non-Jewish whites into ignoring Palestine until every problem in the US is solved.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        March 6, 2016, 8:15 pm

        “…and a troll with two purposes-“

        Tree, he has made such desperate attempts to elicit racism. And it’s nice to see: he hardly gets a nibble here. (I guess I slipped a little when I challenged him about sunscreen, sorry. But I sun-burn easy, so it’s a sensitive subject)

      • Tchoupitoulas
        Tchoupitoulas
        March 7, 2016, 11:42 pm

        Who gave you the permission to co-opt the Palestinian struggle for liberty and self determination, as if you have some sort of divine obligation to help these poor brown folks due to your superior traits and higher culture? rugal_b

        There is some self-interest involved as well. We Americans do have “skin in the game.” Or have you forgotten, or did you never know, or are you in denial, that our support for Israel’s oppression of the Palestinians has resulted in terrorism here on American soil? There were the San Bernardino shooters, and there was…9/11.

        Did you ever read Osama bin Laden’s statement about why he did it? One of the big reasons was US support for Israeli aggression against Lebanese and Palestinian civilians. Here:

        I say to you, Allah knows that it had never occurred to us to strike the towers. But after it became unbearable and we witnessed the oppression and tyranny of the American/Israeli coalition against our people in Palestine and Lebanon, it came to my mind.

        The events that affected my soul in a direct way started in 1982 when America permitted the Israelis to invade Lebanon and the American Sixth Fleet helped them in that. This bombardment began and many were killed and injured and others were terrorised and displaced.

        I couldn’t forget those moving scenes, blood and severed limbs, women and children sprawled everywhere. Houses destroyed along with their occupants and high rises demolished over their residents, rockets raining down on our home without mercy.

        The situation was like a crocodile meeting a helpless child, powerless except for his screams. Does the crocodile understand a conversation that doesn’t include a weapon? And the whole world saw and heard but it didn’t respond. – Osama bin Laden

        I don’t see any upside to our “special relationship” with Israel. I see plenty of negatives though, terrorism being only one of them.

      • March 8, 2016, 3:45 am

        “Nobody is asked anything, not a single goddam thing, about their “race” religion, extraction, place of birth, or ideology or world-view when registering for Mondo.”- Mooser

        The thought and behavioral patterns of straight white males have been highly scrutinized, discussed and documented by those who in the social justice networks. As such, it is not hard at all to make an educated guess on the source of comments on the internet whether they’re from white individuals or not.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        March 8, 2016, 1:48 pm

        “The thought and behavioral patterns of straight white males have been highly scrutinized, discussed and documented by those who in the social justice networks. “

        1) That sentence either has one too few or one too many words in it. Which is it, “rugal b”?
        2) Either way, you are not fooling anybody. You’re gleaming from sea to shining sea, you are.

  5. Krauss
    Krauss
    March 2, 2016, 2:03 pm

    BTW, the neocon fallback plan to the democratic party is finished. Clinton is a tool of theirs, but she’s last on deck standing. Cory Booker was supposed to be their puppet but look at how he thumbed his nose at them during the Iran deal.

    Look where the liberal progressive base is. They HATE Israel.

    This is what makes me grin. These assholes have no way to turn over the long run. And it won’t be the GOP base which will deliver the final blow. The last knife in will be plunged by the liberal student base. These people have been educated on I/P. Many of them are students of color, like Mr. Bailey who was profiled on this site a few days ago.

    They’ve seen the real Israel. And unlike whimpy WASPs, they can’t be bullied into silence.

    • MRW
      MRW
      March 2, 2016, 3:34 pm

      Trump is karma coming back to kick neocons in the ass for the Iraq debacle

      True.

      But let me be more blunt: the American people are fed up with Israel dictating American foreign policy.

      Wanna’ know why Trump has arisen? Netanyahu’s hijacking of Congress in May 2011, and March, 2015. But it was the inopportune and contested March 2015 appearance that did it. The consequences of that March 2015 appearance have come home to roost. Trump announced his candidacy for the presidency three months later.

      But . . . no one was allowed to talk about it, right? (Except here.) Or the Izzy-Crazies will come out of the woodwork with accusations of anti-semitism, and ruin careers and livelihoods. Destroy patriotic Americans for speaking their minds? Don’t the Izzy-Crazies understand what they have done? The sight of 29 standing ovations, of Congress leaping to its feet to suck up to Jewish Donor money, pulsed a revulsion through this nation, and no one in the über world of NYC media understood it or were too afraid to acknowledge it because they didn’t want to wind up cashiered like Helen Thomas or the CNN guy.

      That suck-face behavior produced the Iraq War, allowed Goldman Sachs to escape its mis-behavior shorting the economy, Obama whitewashed it the instant he got into office, and yes, the country sees Goldman Sachs as ‘jewish bankers’. The Izzy-Crazies swing their dicks and piss on the American First Amendment, a religion in this country no matter what your political persuasion. The wars in Libya and Syria were neoconservative (Izzy-Crazy) constructs. The bullshit US position about Russia is a neoconservative (Izzy-Crazy) putsch.

      And Kristol wonders why Trump is ascendant? The missteps of the Israel-First crowd in DC and NYC are truly breathtaking. I’m debating whether to post this response because I don’t want to alert them.

      ============================
      Btw, OT. Listen to Stephen Cohen on his weekly appearance on the John Batchelor Show last night:
      https://audioboom.com/boos/4250231-war-parties-on-the-march-in-syrian-ceasefire-stephen-f-cohen-nyu-princeton-eastwestaccord-com?t=0

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus
        March 2, 2016, 6:36 pm

        Bravo, MRW! The way you put it, it’s absolutely compelling. This really gives us the measure of both Dem clowns –to forget about the others.

      • MRW
        MRW
        March 3, 2016, 12:26 am

        Thanks, echinococcus.

      • Sycamores
        Sycamores
        March 3, 2016, 11:46 am

        Hi MRW,

        Trump is playing the disenfranchised against corporate power. i don’t think American foreign policy towards Israel has much to do with it.

        interesting read from Chris Hedges

        The Revenge of the Lower Classes and the Rise of American Fascism

        College-educated elites, on behalf of corporations, carried out the savage neoliberal assault on the working poor. Now they are being made to pay. Their duplicity—embodied in politicians such as Bill and Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama—succeeded for decades. These elites, many from East Coast Ivy League schools, spoke the language of values—civility, inclusivity, a condemnation of overt racism and bigotry, a concern for the middle class—while thrusting a knife into the back of the underclass for their corporate masters. This game has ended.

        There are tens of millions of Americans, especially lower-class whites, rightfully enraged at what has been done to them, their families and their communities. They have risen up to reject the neoliberal policies and political correctness imposed on them by college-educated elites from both political parties: Lower-class whites are embracing an American fascism.

        http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_revenge_of_the_lower_classes_and_the_rise_of_american_fascism_20160302

      • MRW
        MRW
        March 4, 2016, 3:55 am

        @Sycamores,

        i don’t think American foreign policy towards Israel has much to do with it.

        But an attempt by a foreign country to control American foreign policy does. And the hoi polloi got a whole lot smarter in the last three years. Reading comments on disparate blogs all over the web and in online papers tells you that in an instant. Monster change, and some real rage there. Even the NYT now allows comments that knock Israel and her influence on American wars: Iraq, Libya, Syria, and the push for Iran. They were probably overwhelmed. I’m sure the NYT deletes the majority of comments that complain about Israel.

        Krauss is right.

        The last knife in will be plunged by the liberal student base. These people have been educated on I/P. . . . They’ve seen the real Israel. . . . they can’t be bullied into silence.

        These students are telling their parents too. There are going to be 96 million Millennials of voting age this November. When they wake up to their power, watch out.

    • Emory Riddle
      Emory Riddle
      March 2, 2016, 3:49 pm

      “The last knife in will be plunged by the liberal student base..”

      I wish I could believe that as it would be the desired outcome.

      But I suspect the blowback against the neocon/Israel uber alles crowd will come from the right with all the attendant racism and facility with violence. It will not be manageable. A move toward totalitarianism is certainly not inconceivable. And there will be violence. As the great Malcolm X said, “who ever heard of a non-violent revolution?”.

      And with these endless wars for Israel, theft of our national wealth by the oligarchs, assaults on free speech and privacy all tied to the Zionist agenda, a mainstream media and Justice system that are so corrupt they have become nothing but weapons to be used by the elites against everyone else, I got to say I am almost ready for it. Trump may be the catalyst.

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus
        March 2, 2016, 6:38 pm

        But I suspect the blowback against the neocon/Israel uber alles crowd will come from the right with all the attendant racism and facility with violence. It will not be manageable

        Not that it is very different right now, or more manageable.

    • MRW
      MRW
      March 2, 2016, 3:53 pm

      Oh . . . And Sanders not going after Clinton’s foreign policy actions are what sealed it for Sanders. The only job the Prez has is foreign policy. Clinton is in the tank for the neocons, and Sanders has failed to call her on it. He’s toast.

  6. Another Dave
    Another Dave
    March 2, 2016, 2:07 pm

    I’m still hoping that Drumpf’s campaign is the world’s biggest trolling operation. That the reason he’s acting and speaking like he is is that he wants to destroy the Republican party.

    I’m not surprised Kristol made the allegation (though he wasn’t quite as specific as he would be if Trump wasn’t a white American) everyone who opposes what he champions is another Hitler.

    I’m told that history repeats, first as tragedy then as farce. But the Yanks don’t do farce very well, do they?

    • kalithea
      kalithea
      March 2, 2016, 2:39 pm

      If there’s one thing that Trump understands well is that sometimes it’s not worth saving the rotting structure and the Republican party has rot everywhere. Trump knows when you have to tear down, destroy, and demolish in order to rebuild something solid.

    • echinococcus
      echinococcus
      March 2, 2016, 5:04 pm

      You defying us? Of course Farce Я us, man!
      We repeat them not once, not twice, but as many times as it takes until the buffoonery stinks to high heaven.

      • Another Dave
        Another Dave
        March 2, 2016, 5:31 pm

        The Royal Canadian Air Farce taught me what farce really was.

        I’ll say it until I’m blue in the face (which is rare these days thanks to the warmer winters); the southerners don’t do farce. :)

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus
        March 2, 2016, 5:48 pm

        Wrong, Canuck Dave. We don’t do humor. That’s very different.

    • MRW
      MRW
      March 2, 2016, 11:29 pm

      I think Trump is masterful. Two things.

      (1) Buzzfeed reported on an off-the-record recorded NYT editorial with Trump in December. The NYT won’t release it. Buzzfeed highlighted this about the contents of the recording,

      Gail Collins, one of the attendees at the meeting (which also included editor-in-chief Dean Baquet), floated a bit of speculation in her column:

      The most optimistic analysis of Trump as a presidential candidate is that he just doesn’t believe in positions, except the ones you adopt for strategic purposes when you’re making a deal.

      http://www.buzzfeed.com/bensmith/trump-tape#.fj6r7y8nr

      (2) Kent Clizbe, an ex-spy who outed Fox News’ Wayne Simmons in this week’s NYT Magazine, said this about his tradecraft.

      He [Kent] was sent to an island overseas, where he worked a day job unrelated to his real responsibilities. At night he recruited spies. His experiences in the Philippines, Malaysia and Saudi Arabia all came in handy.

      ‘‘You have to understand your target and immerse yourself in his or her culture and the context from which they come,’’ he said. ‘‘Do they have access to something of interest to you? Are they suitable to do what you want them to do? What are their motivations? What problems do they have that I can solve? Solve their problems, and they’ll become your best friend forever.’’

      From “The Plot to Take Down a Fox News Analyst” http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/06/magazine/the-plot-to-take-down-a-fox-news-analyst.html

      If anyone had read Trump’s “Art of The Deal” book, they would know his thoughts on strategy in deal-making. ;-)

      EDIT: I believe, and I have no data to back this up other than my observations, that Trump read the anger buried deep in the hoi polloi (manifesting as all sorts of ugly stuff, for sure, ugly to me at least) at the beginning of 2015–which included Netanyahu’s disgraceful and humiliating-to-us appearance before Congress–and knew how to rope ‘em.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        March 6, 2016, 8:20 pm

        Trump is Max Bialystock.

  7. echinococcus
    echinococcus
    March 2, 2016, 3:17 pm

    Kallithea,

    That’s all well; how about looking at the other, executive, wing of the dictatorship party, ie the “Democratic party”? What do you want to salvage?

    • kalithea
      kalithea
      March 2, 2016, 5:41 pm

      I guess I partially answered that question in my comment that was posted later below. I agree, there’s not much to salvage there either. As a matter of fact the Democratic Party is worse because the corruption and Zionist influence hides behind economic justice that never quite materializes as it should; while all the big money goes to defense spending, perpetual war and investing in foreign interests.

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus
        March 2, 2016, 5:49 pm

        Thank you, always a good idea to get first things first.

  8. a blah chick
    a blah chick
    March 2, 2016, 3:39 pm

    Is it wise to go by anything Kristol says. No one has a worse track record in prediction since Nostradamus.

  9. kalithea
    kalithea
    March 2, 2016, 4:10 pm

    Maybe Trump only represents the demolition derby, who knows? Maybe, he’ll leave the Republican Party in ruins as is necessary and someone else will come along and rebuild and that task will be out of Trump’s hands or maybe it’ll be him in charge; we’ll see how all this plays out.

    One thing’s for sure; the Republican Party deserves this pain and yesterday proved it’s coming whether they like it or not. I like the fact that Trump is the vehicle for the Republican Party’s destruction. It’s very fitting.

    Of course, the Democratic Party deserves the same thing; because this rigged American political colossus has two heads. Unfortunately, on the Democratic side, Hillary’s the gatekeeper, she’s the cracking dam holding back change and freedom from this stranglehold on Democracy. Sanders has so far shown himself too weak or lacking the will to take a sledgehammer to that damn, corrupt, Ziocon-infested establishment.

    It’s a dirty, messy job; Trump is proving that! Sanders would have it easy, since Trump has already paved the way with shock and awe. Even if Sanders does half of what Trump is doing; but with fact and precision exposes the corruption that Hillary is a part of; it’ll be enough to topple her as the sweetheart of Neo-conservatism.

    Bernie Sanders should be doing to the Democrats what Trump is doing to the Republican Party, separating the wheat from the chaff – exposing and shaming by forcing the party to take sides on the side of corruption or on the side of the will of the people.

    African Americans are doing a huge disservice to the Progressive Movement by standing in the way of change and freedom from the establishment by propping up the figurehead of establishment corruption; Hillary.

    If Republican Neo-conservatism continues to crumble, Hillary is the last great white hope for Neocon power. She represents right now the solid bastion of Neoconservative ideology and the champion for the cause of supremacist Zionism.

    This is what the black community is securing right now with their obstinate support for Hillary. They’re voting against their best interests.

  10. kalithea
    kalithea
    March 2, 2016, 6:52 pm

    All the pundits are saying how Bernie Sanders is making Hillary a better campaigner and a better candidate. That’s not what’s supposed to happen, Bernie!

    She should be flailing neck-deep in her exposed hypocrisy, on the defensive and looking very vulnerable. He’s supposed to make her look like a very bad candidate NOT a better candidate.

    He’s so afraid to damage the Democratic brand and yet he disassociated by sitting as an Independent all this time? For what!? Chris Hedges is sounding more and more right about Sanders. This is not a progressive purity test; this is demanding he not put finite limitations on how far he’ll take his supporters’ investment in him.

    Bernie should quit deluding himself. He’s not making a better candidate out of Hillary to carry his message forward. That message is silenced the moment she’s President! She’s only exploiting his campaign message to rob the enthusiasm that’s lacking on her side; to bring out more voters for herself in the election. It’s all politically motivated with her.

    Bernie must be forced to come out of the closet on foreign policy, the influence of the Lobby and the crimes of Zionism. Millions of people cannot continue to bankroll him unless he puts it ALL out there and stops pretending to be a candidate and starts becoming a serious candidate. His silence on these issue is deafening and practically immoral if not so.

    Listen to this discussion between Hedges and Nader.:

    Here’s what I would add to Nader’s closing comment: If Bernie doesn’t win; he should get Hillary to disavow her neoconservative foreign policy and disavow the Lobby’s influence along with her billionaire Zionist support.

    Now we all know she’s not going to do this, therefore, what he needs to do is release all his supporters and encourage them to vote for the Green Party in revolt. Sure it might put Trump in power; but Trump will make it anyway; let’s not kid ourselves. Hillary is hated by the Republican anti-establishment voter and that includes Independents more than by Democrat anti-establishment voters. No one trusts Hillary and for good reason.

    Bernie’s 75; he’s got nothing to lose making this argument against Hillary his last stand before he retires; if he doesn’t make it to the nomination. And he certainly won’t make it if everyone discovers the limits he’s putting on his campaign. He needs to take this all the way otherwise he will go down in shame for betraying millions of people who believed in him by literally handing their contributions to Hillary and her Neocon agenda.

  11. lysias
    lysias
    March 2, 2016, 7:10 pm

    Robert Kagan announced in an op ed in the Washington Post a couple of days ago that he has stopped being a Republican and that he will vote for Hillary.

  12. yourstruly
    yourstruly
    March 2, 2016, 7:27 pm

    excellent comments!

  13. wondering jew
    wondering jew
    March 2, 2016, 7:35 pm

    The idea that Bernie Sanders is sputtering because he is not more blatant in his opposition to Clinton on foreign policy is just plain false. Sanders is sputtering because blacks are voting for Hillary. Period. Black voters would not change allegiance based upon a Sanders foreign policy emphasis. Show one election where the black primary vote was tilted towards the dovish candidate. Propagating this falsehood is pure: we are interested in foreign policy and therefore that must be the source of the result. It is false. It is not journalism. It is wishful thinking.

    • Mooser
      Mooser
      March 2, 2016, 8:19 pm

      “Black voters would not change allegiance…”

      Whoa! Maybe there is something to all that “identity” changing “rugal b” talks about. “Yonah” seems to able to do it, and bring back the word from the “black voters”, why not me?

      “Propagating this falsehood is pure: we are interested in foreign policy…”

      You are lucky Dr. “RoHa” isn’t here, Yonah”. He would insist on an immediate colonoscopy.

    • kalithea
      kalithea
      March 2, 2016, 8:43 pm

      Black voters would not change allegiance based upon a Sanders foreign policy emphasis.

      Black voters are exploited by the Democratic Party for the longest time. They’re pandered to only during the elections and then they’re patronized the rest of the time. Black voters should know how much Zionist Hillary’s regime change wars have cost black voters – TRILLIONS of dollars that could be put to investing in programs that interest the black community. Instead blacks continue to suffer social and economic injustice. I’ll bet Israel gets more funding yearly with the 3.1 billion than the black community gets.

      Lemme tell you something; the poverty rate among blacks during the Obama Administration has increased almost 3%; right now it stands at 28.1%! So the Democrats have done squat to improve the quality of life for blacks! But Obama had no problem spending on Afghanistan, Libya and Syria and pouring billions into Hillary’s failed states foreign policy agenda that helped to create ISIS and hundreds of millions to sustain millions of refugees fleeing those senseless wars.

      So blacks have no interest in knowing that their tax dollars that could best be used to feed so many poor families and educate the young in their communities are instead being used to finance foreign military intervention and foreign interests, right? Think again!

      • wondering jew
        wondering jew
        March 2, 2016, 10:27 pm

        kalithea- I am not stating that a disregard of foreign policy is in the interest of the black community. I am asserting that their voting records in primaries reflects the ascendancy of other ideas or allegiances over and above the interests that you assert should be reflected in their votes. Should be and is are not the same, no matter how often you assert it or how many exclamation points you use. Think again.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        March 3, 2016, 2:14 am

        “I am asserting…”

        Yes, you are, and as usual, that’s f–k-all you are doing.
        For G-wd’s sake “Yonah” what do you think your ‘assertions’, with no links, with no cites on the motivations and choices of black voters are worth?
        Not to mention your disinterestedness and objectivity in the matter:

        “In the aftermath of the 67 war, two movements combined in the black community-1. the attempt to kick the Jews out of leadership positions and to take control over their own movement and 2. reaction to the Israeli victory in the war. Thus it is quite likely that Dr. King encountered some black person speaking out against the Zionists” “Yonah” – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/profile/wondering-jew/?keyword=black%25#sthash.ABwUXl7k.dpuf

        More assertions:

        “Kahane was a demagogue, no question and viewing him as a hero is, shall we say regressive, but despite the spottiness of his early career and the repugnance of his Israeli politics in his second career, he is a significant American Jewish icon. The JDL was born as a reaction to the New York City Jew hatred of the teachers’ strike of 1968 and thus the black versus Jewish antagonism was the crucible that gave birth to it “Yonah”- See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/profile/wondering-jew/?keyword=black%25#sthash.ABwUXl7k.dpuf

        ” the sixties also contained other important features: a. The black power movement when the blacks “asked” the Jews to step away and let the blacks control their own destiny. and b. the rejection of the idea of the melting pot and the embrace instead of ethnic identity.” “Yonah” – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/profile/wondering-jew/?keyword=black%25#sthash.ABwUXl7k.dpuf

        Whoo-boy.
        Yup, “Yonah” you are just the right guy to assert things about these things. Although it must’ve been pretty cool when Jews ran the Black Power outfits. Before they “asked” us to leave.

      • kalithea
        kalithea
        March 3, 2016, 3:21 am

        @yf

        Yeah-yeah; it’s real easy to brainwash the desperate and vulnerable with the promised land just to get the Zionist Candidate through. Now apparently evangelical Latinos are getting the Zionist work-around. All bases are covered. Then make them pay for the real agenda.

      • wondering jew
        wondering jew
        March 3, 2016, 3:18 pm

        i will not link: but i will assert specifics: blacks voted for RFK over Gene McCarthy in 68. blacks voted for Humphrey over McGovern in 72.

      • amigo
        amigo
        March 3, 2016, 5:08 pm

        “i will not link: but i will assert specifics:” Yonah Fredman.

        Judge to yonah!!.

        Councillor , do you have evidence to back up your assertion that your client is innocent.

        Yonah , I will not provide evidence but I will assert that my client is innocent.

        Judge !! , Oh well that,s alright then councilor , I guess your assertions are all the jury needs.

        QED.

        And you are a lawyer.

    • Rusty Pipes
      Rusty Pipes
      March 2, 2016, 10:46 pm

      Hillary is carrying older Black voters in the South because she has poured money into her ground game in those States, she locked up the Establishment Democrats early, she has worked her Black church network (and Black churches know how to get their members out to vote) and because a lot of old people rely more on their selective memories of the 90’s than on searching the internet for information.

      Every primary thusfar, MSM pundits have tried to claim that Bernie’s successes have been exaggerated and that Clinton’s are defining her as the inevitable nominee. It ain’t over yet.

    • Theo
      Theo
      March 3, 2016, 11:35 am

      The problem is that Bernie is a very bad salesman.
      If he wants people to listen to his program, he must create the need for the products he sells. He must ask the colored and other working classes if they like to earn minimum wages, visit schools where their children will not learn anything, wait for hours in emergency hospitals, etc? He must plant the seeds of a need and discontent, open their eyes, and then tell them what he will do for them. He also must make it very clear that Hillary is a politician bought by big finance and industry and she will never do what she promises.

  14. traintosiberia
    traintosiberia
    March 2, 2016, 11:31 pm

    Right now ,this moment on CNN a bunch of experts are in the middle of a firestorm debating Donald Trump’s silence and conversely disavowal on and of KKK.
    But then I heard from the lady defending Donald say this: ” Right now in America,the most persecuted group of people are the Jews”

    Before this segment,another guy debated with Mr Van Jones who was dropped by Obama for his comment on 911. This guy accused the reverend Right of being anti Semite.

  15. kalithea
    kalithea
    March 2, 2016, 11:46 pm

    Hillary’s still working the Obama Administration and preparing for her upcoming reign.

    http://www.thenation.com/article/the-syrian-cease-fire-is-under-attack-from-within-the-obama-administration/

    As documented by a two-part New York Times investigation, then Secretary of State Clinton played the leading role in the White House’s decision to topple Libyan leader Gaddafi in 2011, which led to a terrorist-ridden failed state and a growing bastion of the Islamic State today. Clinton’s campaign statements suggest that she does not support Kerry’s initiatives but instead a replication of the Libyan operation in order to remove Syrian President Assad—a version, it seems, of Carter’s “Plan B.”

    It’s not Carter’s “Plan B” by the way; it’s a Lobby-inspired Plan B that’s outlined here.:

    http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/view/the-battle-of-aleppo-is-the-center-of-the-syrian-chessboard

    Mearsheimer and Walt wrote of WINEP: (Washington Institute for Near East Policy)

    Although WINEP plays down its links to Israel and claims that it provides a ‘balanced and realistic’ perspective on Middle East issues, this is not the case. In fact, WINEP is funded and run by individuals who are deeply committed to advancing Israel’s agenda.

    Hillary Clinton is the heir to the Neocon (really Ziocon) throne and Plan B is no doubt the next stage of the wider diabolical Plan authored by Kristol and Kagan that has already created AQ, ISIS, failed states, millions of refugees and cost over a million lives to say the least. They give new meaning to the term war criminal.

    Like Colin Powell once stated in other words: There’s a revolving door at the Pentagon for Zionists.

    Zionists had it all mapped out from day one. Plan B, by the way, involves what could potentially be the destruction of Lebanon.

    • MRW
      MRW
      March 3, 2016, 12:01 pm

      You nail it, kalithea. And you’re pointing out exactly what Stephen Cohen says this week on his weekly Tuesday night radio appearance with John Batchelor. I link to it above but here it is again. You might enjoy it. If you don’t have the time, at least listen to the first 10 minutes.
      https://audioboom.com/boos/4250231-war-parties-on-the-march-in-syrian-ceasefire-stephen-f-cohen-nyu-princeton-eastwestaccord-com?t=0

      Cohen has a nice quiet lethal way of stripping the masks off Clinton, the MSM, and the neocons. At the end of one show in the last month, Cohen praised Trump as the only presidential candidate who understands the value of diplomacy in foreign affairs, and who understands the stakes with Russia that only a president can turn around (based on his constitutional job definition); he called the other candidates not ready for prime-time as president of the US. It sounded like an endorsement. It’s since been wiped and replaced with something else. Wouldn’t be too good for the husband of the publisher and managing editor of The Nation magazine to be heard backing Trump?

    • MRW
      MRW
      March 3, 2016, 12:28 pm

      kalithea, I apologize. You were of course saying what I just wrote to you. You quoted Cohen~!! You were miles ahead of me. I didn’t click on The Nation link until just now.

    • Sibiriak
      Sibiriak
      March 3, 2016, 10:43 pm

      Hillary Clinton will be good for women. Ask Berta Cáceres. But you can’t. She’s dead. Gunned down yesterday, March 2, at midnight, in her hometown of La Esperanza, Intibuca, in Honduras.

      Cáceres was a vocal and brave indigenous leader, an opponent of the 2009 Honduran coup that Hillary Clinton, as secretary of state, made possible.

      http://www.thenation.com/article/the-clinton-backed-honduran-regime-is-picking-off-indigenous-leaders/

  16. Bandolero
    Bandolero
    March 3, 2016, 6:13 am

    More Neocons say they’ll vote for Clinton: Neocons declare war on Trump

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/trump-clinton-neoconservatives-220151

    And 60 Israel firsters wrote an open letter saying effectively they don’t like Trump’s America first foreign policy:

    http://warontherocks.com/2016/03/open-letter-on-donald-trump-from-gop-national-security-leaders/

    Funny to see most of them soon on board of Hillary’s democratic Israel first ship.

  17. Kay24
    Kay24
    March 3, 2016, 7:31 am

    Kristol, is a zionist in American clothing. Obviously he is a staunch supporter of Hillary, and will try hard to make Drumpf look like Hitler, so that dear pro Israel Hillary can win and carry on doing the good work for her second love, Israel. Didn’t she say she was going to invite it’s warmongering leader as soon as she moves into the WH? The candidates are of low caliber, dishonest, racist, and divisive. I must look into Dr. Jill Stein’s credentials.

    • Theo
      Theo
      March 3, 2016, 11:39 am

      With Jill Stein you will waste your vote, the USA is just not ready for a third political party.

      • Kay24
        Kay24
        March 3, 2016, 1:34 pm

        I know fully well that Dr. Stein will never be President. All candidates are pro Israel, or have shown any desire to stop supporting that apartheid nation.

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus
        March 3, 2016, 2:59 pm

        Whatever you vote, nothing is likely to change anytime soon. So, if you believed the objective of voting third party this year is to immediately enjoy the miracle of all the doors opening and all the chains being broken, you’d be really too naive for words.
        On the other hand, voting on the basis not of the candidate’s program, but of the possibilities of placing one precise person on that imperial throne right now is downright criminal.

  18. hophmi
    hophmi
    March 3, 2016, 12:10 pm

    Oh please. Trump is capitalizing on cynicism that comes from gridlock in the American political system, which is the result of many things, including gerrymandering and political polarization, and he’s also benefitting from the fact that there are too many candidates.

    Almost none of this has to do with Iraq, which Bernie Sanders has certainly brought up, repeatedly. Trump is polling at about 35%, not 65%, and the rest of the vote is split between the remaining contenders.

    Your suggestion that Trump has “taken on the neoconservative donor base” of the Republican party (say the Jews, just be honest and say the Republican Jews, and stop hiding behind the euphemisms; everybody here knows what you mean), is a bunch of nonsense. He’s taken on the lobbyist funding, which he’s able to do because he’s a billionaire who’s basically self-financing. He’s never uttered the word neoconservative. He’s claimed to be the most pro-Israel of all of the candidates.

    What you’re seeing here, with your endorsement of Trump’s principles, and the love of some here for Trump’s nativism, is how, like Trump, the BDS movement attracts the antisemitic fascists in American society.

    • annie
      annie
      March 3, 2016, 2:12 pm

      Your suggestion that Trump has “taken on the neoconservative donor base” of the Republican party (say the Jews, just be honest and say the Republican Jews, and stop hiding behind the euphemisms; everybody here knows what you mean), is a bunch of nonsense.

      first of all, let’s review what phil wrote. re your interpretation of “Trump has “taken on the neoconservative donor base” of the Republican party “, let’s be clear what he wrote at the beginning:

      he has taken on the establishment foreign policy in the Republican Party– neoconservatism, which gave us the Iraq war

      so let’s look at what that means. https://books.google.com/books?id=-dRRubNfz2EC&pg=PA146&dq=%E2%80%9CNeocons%E2%80%9D+believe+that+the+United+States+should+not+be+ashamed&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj_lZrhnaXLAhVQwmMKHeWeCOcQ6AEIHTAA#v=onepage&q=%E2%80%9CNeocons%E2%80%9D%20believe%20that%20the%20United%20States%20should%20not%20be%20ashamed&f=false

      “Neocons” believe that the United States should not be ashamed to use its unrivaled power – forcefully if necessary – to promote its values around the world. Some even speak of the need to cultivate a US empire. Neoconservatives believe modern threats facing the US can no longer be reliably contained and therefore must be prevented, sometimes through preemptive military action.

      Most neocons believe that the US has allowed dangers to gather by not spending enough on defense and not confronting threats aggressively enough. One such threat, they contend, was Saddam Hussein and his pursuit of weapons of mass destruction. Since the 1991 Gulf War, neocons relentlessly advocated Mr. Hussein’s ouster.

      Most neocons share unwavering support for Israel, which they see as crucial to US military sufficiency in a volatile region. They also see Israel as a key outpost of democracy in a region ruled by despots. Believing that authoritarianism and theocracy have allowed anti-Americanism to flourish in the Middle East, neocons advocate the democratic transformation of the region, starting with Iraq. They also believe the US is unnecessarily hampered by multilateral institutions, which they do not trust to effectively neutralize threats to global security.

      this is a policy largely adopted by both parties but more so the gop. the meaning of phil’s statement, that trump has taken on the foreign policy in the gop of neoconservatism — which gave us the iraq war, is true. trump directly attached that foreign policy in the debate saying saddam was not a threat to the US, iraq had no wmd, and sometimes dictators were preferable (paraphrasing, frankly i can’t recall). so he took on the foreign policy that has been adopted. that is much different than saying , as you did, that trump taken on the donor base — jews.

      so you’re whole say the Jews, just be honest and say the Republican Jews, and stop hiding behind the euphemisms; everybody here knows what you mean is not fair because phil linked to his other article > http://mondoweiss.net/2015/12/trump-wasnt-semitic/ in the donor base passage:

      More important, this was a moment of truth-telling. The (mostly) men in that room are there because they’re wealthy and they’re shopping for pro-Israel candidates. I saw this same crowd at the King David Hotel in Jerusalem raising money for Mitt Romney in 2012. You didn’t get into the lunch by having good ideas. It was a $50,000-a-plate meal. Buying candidates for Israel is the name of the game. Foreign Policy wrote recently that big donors are making the pro-Israel issue the test of being Jewish– “In the Jewish community, the big donors have unnuanced views on Israel,” said one Jewish critic. Rabbi Steven Gutow of the Jewish Council on Public Affairs said a month ago that the Jewish community has given too much power to rightwing pro-Israel donors. “In our community, there is this strange hegemony of big donors demanding control of decisions.”

      Again: that’s the money Trump was addressing.

      so implying he wasn’t being honest or “hiding behind the euphemisms” is unfair, inaccurate and a bunch of crap.

      • MRW
        MRW
        March 3, 2016, 2:18 pm

        I second that, annie.

      • annie
        annie
        March 3, 2016, 2:21 pm

        thanks MRW, albeit, i did update the comment — likely while you are commenting. thought i should give you a heads up.

      • hophmi
        hophmi
        March 3, 2016, 4:10 pm

        It’s clearly what he’s talking about, Annie. But go ahead, play dumb, and act like this is only post that this site has ever written on this issue. Pat Buchanan, Phil’s old boss, used to play the same game. It’s no surprise that David Duke and Phil Weiss have positive things to say about Donald Trump.

      • MRW
        MRW
        March 4, 2016, 3:23 am

        Oh, hophmi, give it a rest with the cheesy conflation of Phil with David Duke.

        And “Pat Buchanan, Phil’s old boss?” Where and when?

      • hophmi
        hophmi
        March 4, 2016, 2:13 pm

        “Oh, hophmi, give it a rest with the cheesy conflation of Phil with David Duke.”

        Why? Their views on Jews in America are nearly identical. They even use a lot of the same language.

        “And “Pat Buchanan, Phil’s old boss?” Where and when?”

        Phil used to write for The American Conservative, which was founded by Buchanan.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        March 4, 2016, 4:30 pm

        “Why? Their views on Jews in America are nearly identical. They even use a lot of the same language.”

        Mein Gott! “Hophmi” is right! I checked.

      • gamal
        gamal
        March 6, 2016, 1:57 pm

        “They even use a lot of the same language.”

        according to Walter Benjamin about 40% of Rotwelsch was derived from Hebrew

        its on page 51, Rotwlesch, interesting…compounded, the robber band argot, no cowering in the Ghetto for these Jews.

        https://books.google.ie/books?id=zB3uqWdMXEAC&pg=PA51&lpg=PA51&dq=rotwelsch+walter+benjamin&source=bl&ots=PotkCsPQAy&sig=ml_-3XG6O0T7eOtvghS-1q5u7mg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjn2LPq3KzLAhXBew8KHeXTC2EQ6AEIITAB#v=onepage&q=rotwelsch%20walter%20benjamin&f=false

    • eljay
      eljay
      March 3, 2016, 2:27 pm

      || hophmi: … Your suggestion that Trump has “taken on the neoconservative donor base” of the Republican party (say the Jews, just be honest and say the Republican Jews, and stop hiding behind the euphemisms … ||

      What is it with you Zio-supremacists and your obsession with conflating things with Jews?

      Person: I went to the local deli today and…
      hophmi: Just be honest and say you went to the Jewish deli. Stop hiding behind the euphemisms.
      Person: Ummm…yeah. Anyway, I had this terrific bagel with…
      hophmi: Just be honest and say you had a Jewish bagel. Stop hiding behind the euphemisms.

  19. Tom Callaghan
    Tom Callaghan
    March 3, 2016, 9:04 pm

    Clear violation, by Kristol, of the well established rule that the first person to mention Hitler in an argument…loses.

    http://www.wednesdayswars.com

  20. traintosiberia
    traintosiberia
    March 3, 2016, 11:03 pm

    Neoocnservatives depend on the status of the memory of the people . They also portray themselves as innocent powerless do -gooders always ready to remind the Americans how gullible honest hardworking religious minded the average Americans are and always at risk of being taken advantage of by bad guys at home and abroad.
    But they always make emergency exception ( like the way Kristol is suggesting as reported in today’s NYT ) . They make emergency support available to Wahabis,ISIS,Al Nusra,Al Quida and they deplore Islamophobia . Those emergency measures have the potential of further future exploitation ( Kristol might say in 5 yrs time – we ,the Jewish neoocn supported Saudi , we deplored Islamophobia )
    The fanatic Wahabi Saudi becomes “moderate” . Saudi has to be defended because the Saudis hate Iran. (http://lobelog.com/trump-or-israel-who-is-more-friendly-to-dictators/)
    Now Trump has been called Islamophobe by the neocons. It is one of the 2 reasons they demand Trump be challenged by common Americans.
    Neocons are cleverly forgetting that they started the anti Arab,anti muslim ant Islam hatred in the public sphere and in official space. They continue to do same .

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/trump-clinton-neoconservatives-220151#ixzz41n333mG2

  21. MRW
    MRW
    March 4, 2016, 5:05 am

    Open Letter on Donald Trump from GOP National Security Leaders
    http://www.voltairenet.org/article190578.html
    Take a look at the signers.

    Donald Trump advised by General Flynn
    http://www.voltairenet.org/article190498.html

    According to Reuters [1], General Michael T. Flynn, former director of the DIA, is advising Donald Trump, the candidate, in international politics.

    Mr. Trump, known for his sensational statements, refrained from punchy statements on foreign policy issues. He described President Putin as a “very respected man “.

    In 2012, General Flynn tried opposing the White House proposal to play the Daesh card in Iraq and Syria. He was abruptly admitted into retirement in August, 2014. On December 10, 2015, he participated at the side of President Putin, in the celebrations of the anniversary of Russia Today.

    The rest is here: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-advisor-idUSMTZSAPEC2Q6G3JRH

  22. MRW
    MRW
    March 4, 2016, 7:54 am

    Trump’s Triumphs Demolish Netanyahu’s Fortress GOP Strategy By Chemi Shalev.
    The N.Y. tycoon is decimating the three legs of blanket Republican support for Israel: Evangelicals, Jews and interventionist hawks.
    http://www.haaretz.com/world-news/u-s-election-2016/1.706970

    • amigo
      amigo
      March 4, 2016, 10:13 am

      Apologies MRW , I posted that link on another thread before I noticed your post.

  23. russgreen
    russgreen
    March 4, 2016, 10:24 am

    Phil seems to be giving Trump more credit than he deserves and seems to be engaging in wishful thinking. Ascribing more virtue and better motives to Trump than he deserves.
    Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
    A loose cannon spinning around wildly and firing in all directions will sometimes hit a target we approve of.
    Trump is a broken clock and a loose cannon and is a dangerously ignorant and unprincipled man. It probably is a mistake to seem to be supporting him in any way.

    • Sibiriak
      Sibiriak
      March 4, 2016, 11:17 am

      Trump is a true American faux-Populist!

      —————–

      Senator Jeff Sessions:

      “I am thrilled today to offer my endorsement of Donald J. Trump for President. This election is our last chance to save U.S. sovereignty and to end the domination of the political establishment over the interests of working Americans.

      Trump alone has rejected the donor class, defending America’s jobs and wages from open borders, uncontrolled immigration and the massive Trans-Pacific Partnership that will cede U.S. authority to foreign powers.

      Trump’s trade and immigration plans will revitalize our shrinking middle class, keeping jobs and wealth and income inside the United States of America. Trump understands that a nation must always place the interests of its own people first.”

      We are nearing fast the point of no return. The people are hurting. Their wages are declining. Their schools are overburdened. Their hospitals are stretched past the breaking point. Crime is up, and community confidence is down. Americans of all backgrounds and ethnicities, immigrant and US-born, are crying out for leadership that puts their needs first, that takes care of those living and dreaming here today, leadership that understands that there is no constituency other than the American constituency. Mr. Trump is that leader.

      We are witnessing an incredible movement, arising from the people.

      The events of history have aligned to give the people this fleeting chance to bust up the oligarchy – to take back control from the ‘Masters of the Universe’ return it to the good and decent and patriotic citizens of the United States.”

      http://www.businessinsider.com/jeff-sessions-donald-trump-endorses-2016-2

    • March 7, 2016, 6:13 am

      “Phil seems to be giving Trump more credit than he deserves and seems to be engaging in wishful thinking. Ascribing more virtue and better motives to Trump than he deserves. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.” – Russ

      Exactly what I think as well. However, Phil does seem to possess some level of self-awareness, always being careful to shield his optimistic attitude towards Trump from being too overt. Not sure how effective he is though, I definitely sensed some sort of problematic idealization from Phil early on when he started covering Trump’s campaign.

      When I suggested his motivation for supporting Trump was due to deep-rooted hatred of Israel and its appropriation of Jewish identity, I was ganged up by his supporters here. Why else would a progressive Jewish-American (who is married to a non-Jew and is not part of any Jewish organisation afaik) be publishing positive articles of a hatemonger such as Trump? (I don’t believe in objectivity in journalism btw). Apart from the devious expectation that this hate monger will eventually channel his hatred towards the Israeli lobby among the other irellevant groups such as the Muslims and POCs? Phil is hoping for Trump to be a conduit of his own hatred, which would be the most convenient thing for him as he gets to attack the lobby without losing his progressive credentials.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        March 7, 2016, 11:27 am

        ” However, Phil does seem to possess some level of self-awareness”

        Oh, definitely. But I must admit, the spectacle created by a person who apparently possesses none is very interesting, amusing, but hardly worth saving. Wouldn’t you agree, “rugal b”

        “Why else would a progressive Jewish-American (who is married to a non-Jew and is not part of any Jewish organisation afaik)”

        ROTFLMASJAO! Whatsammatter, “rugal b” you got a problem with miscegenation? Jewish non-observance and out-marriage bother you a lot?

      • annie
        annie
        March 7, 2016, 12:00 pm

        When I suggested his motivation for supporting Trump was due to deep-rooted hatred of Israel and its appropriation of Jewish identity, I was ganged up by his supporters here….Phil is hoping for Trump to be a conduit of his own hatred

        still no archives for rugal b. stop lying. the entire exchange can be viewed here (scrolling up and down) http://mondoweiss.net/2016/02/repeating-neutrality-vow-on-israel-trump-surely-senses-shift-in-us-mood/#comment-826690

        you failed to produce even one example of phil’s so called support for trump (much less phil’s so called “hatred”). your entire diatribe was an inflammatory self-aggrandizing strawman based on — nothing. stop this. you’re spamming.

      • March 9, 2016, 3:10 am

        The basis of my accusation of Phil holding pro-Trump sentiments is based on the positivity of the articles he decides to publish wrt to Trump. Here are a summary of the articles published and my critical analysis of them :

        1. Trump wasn’t anti-Semitic (http://mondoweiss.net/2015/12/trump-wasnt-semitic/)

        In this article, Phil went totally out of his way to protect Trump and absolve him of the accusations that he was being anti-semitic based on what “lots of liberal writers are claiming”. A highly protective writing that guards Trump from the extremely harmful label of being an anti-semite. This is a form of positive endorsement.

        “Trump has expressed bigotry against Hispanics and Muslims, but he is surely immunized from bigotry in this case because he was describing a quality he values more than anything else, dealmaking. I don’t see how you can be anti-semitic if you’re praising a trait you love in yourself.” – Phil Weiss, from the same article.

        Yeah, according to Phil there are multiple distinct versions of bigotry, and in the case of Trump, he was ONLY being bigots against Hispanic and Muslims so it’s not fair to hate on him as if he is also bigoted towards Jews as well. Since he is CLEARLY isn’t, he is still a candidate worth our serious consideration. A positive endorsement on Trump’s commendable limited bigotry.

        “Though he loves Netanyahu, who can doubt that’s his real sentiment. What’s the source of his independence? Because he’s not looking for money, he’s not bought and paid for by the Israel lobby, as Tom Friedman once wrote about the Congress.” – Phill Weiss

        Another blatant positive endorsement on Trump’s immunity from Zionist control through the money politics of Israeli lobby. Since he is rich enough to not be easily swayed by financial gifts and donation. This statement absolves the personal responsibility and agency of the person receiving Zionist money, and shifts all the moral judgement on the lobby for paying money to gain favors. The person who receives the money and grants favors is seen as being lost, being controlled, being puppeted, all sentiments suggesting innocent soul corrupted by the Zionists.

        OVERALL SLANT OF ARTICLE : Highly positive towards Trump

        My question is why? Why present a sexist, racist hatemonger in a positive light, why expend your time and energy to do so, and spend valuable site bandwidth on such articles? For objectivity, fairness and holy pursuit of truth and justice?

        2. Trump’s refusal to name a ‘good guy and a bad guy’ in conflict is ‘anti-Israel,’ says Rubio (http://mondoweiss.net/2016/02/trumps-refusal-to-name-a-good-guy-and-a-bad-guy-in-conflict-is-anti-israel-says-rubio/)

        This article goes on to further establish Trump’s steadfastness against blindly following the status quo and supporting Israel as the default American position to take.

        “Trump also repeated his shocking declaration that he has to be neutral about the conflict because he has the ambition of negotiating a peace deal” – Phil Weiss

        Above is a positive endorsement on Trump’s rationality and ultimate goal in dealing with the conflict. Trump want peace in the Middle East, what a nice guy!

        Also, while he may be a shameless unapologetic racist towards the Muslims and Hispanics in America, he is pretty respectful of the similarly hued Palestinians, judging from the lack of hostility shown by him towards these group of brown folk.

        OVERALL SLANT OF ARTICLE : Positive towards Trump

        3. Trump repeats ‘neutrality’ vow on Israel, surely sensing shift in US opinion (http://mondoweiss.net/2016/02/repeating-neutrality-vow-on-israel-trump-surely-senses-shift-in-us-mood/)

        Another whole article written by Phil to educate the readers on MW about Trump’s galant stance of neutrality in the IP conflict. In the article, Phil writes, “Trump somewhat tempered his smear of Palestinians as the haters that he issued last week. And he sorta flicked off the fact that he endorsed Benjamin Netanyahu before the 2013 elections in Israel as a polite gesture. Message: that guy has nothing on me.”

        Wow, so brave, much strong, wow! The above is an highly positive endorsement of Trump’s quality of not rabidly hating on Palestinians for no reason, and not being under the thumbs of the Israeli lobby because that’s what Trump claim to be.

        “I throw in these stray facts to say that American public opinion is changing (as is Jewish opinion) and there is political hay to be made of the changes. Donald Trump surely senses this, in his populist campaign. And so he is preparing to run against Marco Rubio by saying that Rubio is Sheldon Adelson’s “perfect little puppet”, and preparing to set up a general election campaign against Hillary Clinton in which he can call out her beholdenness to the billionaire Haim Saban.”

        Yeah Trump is pretty smart, because compared to the rest of crooks running, he is the only one who listens to the voices of people. That’s how we know he is the real deal, our true leader because he hear our cries at night, and cries along with us in his penthouse apartment. Basically Phil is rehashing what most white supremacists say when asked why they support Trump which goes like this basically ; “Trump is the only one who is listening to us.”

        OVERALL SLANT OF ARTICLE : Highly positive towards Trump

        4. Trump calls out Clinton for her support for Israel’s separation wall (http://mondoweiss.net/2016/01/support-israels-separation/)

        A fairly bland article which pretty much tries to positively appraise Trump relative to Hillary wrt to the IP conflict. Boring read, but nevertheless an interesting decision for Phil to publish it..it shows his persistence in cleaning up Trump’s image after the mess being made by the mainstream liberal media. In the article, the author writes :

        “The tweet is also a reminder that people know what’s going on over there. Even Donald Trump. Public opinion is shifting. Even the most pessimistic person has to see that. People are aware of the apartheid conditions. And these questions are bound to be debated in the coming political cycle, no matter who the nominees are. Will Bernie Sanders have the guts to call Clinton out for her hypocrisy on this question?” – Phil or James North

        Again, the article tries to emphasize Trump’s ‘wokeness’ of the shifting public opinion, unlike Clinton or even possibly Bernie. A positive endorsement on Trump’s embracing the democratic philosophy of listening to the voices of the people. It even goes to praise Trump’s fearlessness in calling Clinton, which is another form of positive endorsement.

        OVERALL SLANT OF ARTICLE : Relatively positive towards Trump, compared to Clinton and Bernie

        5. As Trump takes on the neocons, Kristol likens him to Hitler (http://mondoweiss.net/2016/03/as-trump-takes-on-the-neocons-kristol-likens-him-to-hitler/)

        I would like to first focus on the title on the article itself. Neocons, who are the stereotypical baddies of the American political landscape are presented as the enemies of Trump which could only mean that Trump is one of the good guys fighting the good fight, not unlike MLK, Mandela, Arafat, JFK and many others before him. Kristol who is a fellow neocon, sensing Trump’s eventual victory, does exactly what a neocon would do to and tries to stop him using the much maligned Hitler card. Based on the title alone, this is an absolute positive endorsement of Trump by Phil Weiss.

        I see no point in trying to extract quotes from this particular article as it is entirely written to present Trump in the most positive, anti-establishment manner. It goes on and on about how Trump is the only one seeing the American people’s frustration and resentment of the establishment and intelligently shaping his campaign to exploit the circumstances in his favor.

        OVERALL SLANT OF ARTICLE : EXTREMELY positive towards Trump

        In summary, whilst Phil have not publicly published a direct statement of endorsement of Trump, it is clear that he is not against him being the president. An endorsement can lead to problematic baggage which may bring about undesirable consequences to the endorser long way down the road, a risk I am sure Phil is not man enough to bear. So he does the next best thing, write article after article that portrays Trump as a positive character for the presidency using languages that offer him plausible deniability of appearing to support Trump.

      • annie
        annie
        March 9, 2016, 3:27 am

        Another whole article written by Phil to educate the readers on MW about Trump’s galant stance of neutrality in the IP conflict. In the article, Phil writes, “Trump somewhat tempered his smear of Palestinians as the haters that he issued last week. And he sorta flicked off the fact that he endorsed Benjamin Netanyahu before the 2013 elections in Israel as a polite gesture. Message: that guy has nothing on me.”

        Wow, so brave, much strong, wow! The above is an highly positive endorsement of Trump’s quality of not rabidly hating on Palestinians

        this is as far as i got. i literally can’t make it thru more of your comment. thanks for spelling out for us (repeatedly) what constitutes an “endorsement” for you.

        no comment. other than — i can’t take this seriously.

      • March 9, 2016, 3:44 am

        Interesting response by Annie. Are you denying the positive sentiments on Trump being present in the articles listed?

      • annie
        annie
        March 9, 2016, 5:20 am

      • Sibiriak
        Sibiriak
        March 9, 2016, 7:13 am

        rugal_b_troll: . Are you denying the positive sentiments on Trump being present in the articles listed?

        —————————

        A few qualified “positive sentiments” do not constitute a “positive endorsement“.

        And repeating the phrase “positive endorsement ” over and over (eight times) doesn’t make it any less of a straw man.

      • March 9, 2016, 9:35 am

        @Sibiriak

        So how would you define endorsement? Why would Phil publish articles after articles filled with positive potrayal of Trump, if not to endorse him in some way? I’m pretty sure Phil isn’t spending the time and energy to produce his articles just for the purpose of being fair and balanced, covering both sides of the political spectrum. BS!

        I think the only reason Phil hasn’t come out to officially endorse Trump as his ideal candidate is because he doesn’t want to be labelled as a Trump supporter and be associated with all the negative judgements and stigma. Otherwise, he appears fairly happy with the prospect of a Trump presidency.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        March 9, 2016, 12:13 pm

        “The basis of my….”

        Uh, sorry “rugal b” that one is strictly: “tldr”. But it’ll stand as a high point in your archive.

        Okay, I’m a fool who needs an excuse not to do the housework, I scanned it. “rugal b”, you really should drink a few bottles of Geritol!
        Dude, you’ve got the worst case of irony-poor blood blood I’ve ever seen.
        Your reasoning and critical skills are, well, downright anemic.

      • annie
        annie
        March 9, 2016, 12:35 pm

        But it’ll stand as a high point in your archive.

        i just spit up on my keyboard again mooser. stop! stop1 stop! btw, did you happen to read chemi shalev’s excellent Trump’s Triumphs Demolish Netanyahu’s Fortress GOP Strategy? http://www.haaretz.com/world-news/u-s-election-2016/1.706970 just don’t share it w/rugal, by his standard he’d probably interpret it as shalev’s massive endorsement of trump —

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        March 9, 2016, 12:57 pm

        “Annie Robbins
        March 9, 2016, 5:20 am”

        That’s even better than a cuckoo-clock! I will consider it my birthday card. Thanks!

        BTW, have you looked, by the flickering unearthly light of the butter-lamps, in at the transcendental moderation suite high atop Mondo Towers? Maybe somebody has reached nirvana or left their body, discorporated.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        March 9, 2016, 6:56 pm

        “Phil is hoping for Trump to be a conduit of his own hatred, which would be the most convenient thing for him as he gets to attack the lobby without losing his progressive credentials.”

        Got it. Phil Weiss is Willy Wonka, and Trump is his Oompah-Loompah. We’ve seen this kind of thing before. Somebody is going up the pipe.

      • March 12, 2016, 12:33 am

        “Got it. Phil Weiss is Willy Wonka, and Trump is his Oompah-Loompah. We’ve seen this kind of thing before. Somebody is going up the pipe” – Mooser

        No. He is just a coward.

  24. traintosiberia
    traintosiberia
    March 4, 2016, 11:14 am

    http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2016/02/18/the-media-are-misleading-public-syria/8YB75otYirPzUCnlwaVtcK/story.html

    “This does not fit with Washington’s narrative. As a result, much of the American press is reporting the opposite of what is actually happening. Many news reports suggest that Aleppo has been a “liberated zone” for three years but is now being pulled back into misery.”

    If I were in Syria, I would notice the Hitleresque ambience all around Kristol and but see some hope for escape from misery in Trump’s mocking of the efforts of the Yoded Yinon PNAC Neo Con brigade to balkanize and fragment Syria and Iraq. .

    From same article ” Americans are said to be ignorant of the world. We are, but so are people in other countries. If people in Bhutan or Bolivia misunderstand Syria, however, that has no real effect. Our ignorance is more dangerous, because we act on it. The United States has the power to decree the death of nations. It can do so with popular support because many Americans — and many journalists — are content with the official story. In Syria, it is: “Fight Assad, Russia, and Iran! Join with our Turkish, Saudi, and Kurdish friends to support peace!” This is appallingly distant from reality. It is also likely to prolong the war and condemn more Syrians to suffering and death.”

    Our knowledge matters . So an indictment and imprisonment of the Ruthless charlatan like Kristol posing as informed unbiased pro American expert would go a long way in keeping the world safe against barbarism.

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