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‘NYT’ columnist says Hillary Clinton is not pro-Israel enough!

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The New York Times continues to indulge the most right-wing and Israel-narcissistic views in its opinion columns. Here is regular contributor Shmuel Rosner, a rightwing Israeli, holding out the hope that a president Donald Trump would be more friendly to Israel than Barack Obama.

In “Can Israel Handle a President Trump?” Rosner says Hillary Clinton is wobbly on Israel:

Hillary Clinton[‘s] history of thorny relations with Israel’s prime minister began in the mid-1990s, when her husband clashed with the first Netanyahu government, and continued through her tenure as Mr. Obama’s secretary of state….

From a President Clinton, Israel’s hawkish government would come under more of the same pressure it received from the Obama administration.

What is he talking about? Hillary Clinton has been more pro-Israel than any other candidate besides Marco Rubio. She brags that she was born within months of the Jewish state and vows to take the relationship “to the next level.” She wants to fight BDS and have PM Benjamin Netanyahu to the White House in her first month. That’s not good enough for Shmuel Rosner, though!

And the narcissism! Does the Times run op-eds that have their heads so deeply immured in a foreign country’s interests when that country is Myanmar or France or Turkey? Would any other foreign columnist feel so empowered to voice such undiplomatic views as these in an American newspaper?  Rosner:

Israel depends on an America that asserts itself abroad. Israel needs bipartisan support. It needs stable, predictable American foreign policy. It desires candidates who sing Israel’s praises as often and as loudly as they can. Mr. Trump, who looks poised to capture the Republican Party’s nomination, offers Israel none of those. Mr. Netanyahu has every reason to be concerned and disappointed by what the American political system has produced this election cycle…

Israel’s government hoped a new president would restore a more traditional definition of friendship — one based on mutual trust and support.

America readers, do you really give a f***** f*** what Netanyahu wants?

Thanks to Donald Johnson.

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  1. amigo
    March 16, 2016, 2:32 pm

    Why doesn,t someone ask these ingrates to make a list that lay,s out exactly what the US needs to do to make them happy and then make that list available to every American through Mass Media , (includes the NYT(, so Dick and Jane will be aware of just how much their leaders in Tel Aviv demand of them.

    I am not an American , but if we had traitors like that in Ireland , they would find themselves on a fast boat to their beloved Israel with a free one way ticket.Are Americans insane or just plain naive.

    • MRW
      March 16, 2016, 3:13 pm

      Both. Combination of both.

    • Marnie
      March 17, 2016, 2:00 am

      My guess is that it’s just too hard to come up with a specific list when the demands by the israelis change as frequently as a multiple personality disordered person’s mood ring. It’s probably best to continue to tell Americans they’re f&[email protected]#d, but they’ll all go to heaven for supporting israel.

    • Lillian Rosengarten
      March 17, 2016, 10:35 am

      Disgusting and I am disgusted with the NYTimes

  2. eljay
    March 16, 2016, 2:41 pm

    Zio-supremacists here at MW are happy to tell you that Israel doesn’t need America. Apparently Mr. Rosner didn’t get their memo.

    • Krauss
      March 16, 2016, 10:56 pm


      Remember Ya’alon just a few days ago begging about “moral support”(and more cash, of course)?

      For all the talk about how Israel supposedly ‘doesn’t need’ America, its highest officials and hasbara journalists constantly reference the need for support.
      We were told just a few years ago how India and China represent a new chapter in Israeli diplomatic relations.

      I said back then: Israel has no choice but America because neither India nor China are stupid enough to have a “special relationship” with an isolated Apartheid state, which is an outcome from a alien interest lobby, the Israel lobby.

      Its all bluster. Without America, Israel is worth shit.

      • Misterioso
        March 17, 2016, 12:30 pm


        Well and truly stated!

        Also, in 20-25 years, there will be about 3 billion Muslims worldwide, about 600 million Arabs, including around 10 million Palestinians between the River and the Sea, as well as about 150 million Iranians and 150 million Turks.

        Can there be any doubt as to where the long term geopolitical and economic interests of the world, especially the U.S., lie? Certainly not with racist/rogue/pariah Israel. The handwriting is on the wall.

  3. MRW
    March 16, 2016, 3:48 pm

    ‘NYT’ columnist says Hillary Clinton is not pro-Israel enough!

    I guess these einsteins haven’t figured out what happened, or is happening, in the US. and they’re counting on what the senior GOP official said, “We choose the nominee, not the voters.” Guess they haven’t factored in a reaction.

    I said over five years ago here, America’s support for Israel is 3,000 miles wide and an inch deep, if that.

    Support for Israel is, among the hoi polloi who are not religious fanatics, in the same category as liking Levalor® Blinds, or thinking increasing ‘curb appeal’ helps get a better price for your house. . . . something you heard on TV and presented as a good idea.

    But I guess we wait until we hear from DT at AIPAC. If he has the balls to stick to his guns from before, we can expect more entertaining fireworks from out-of-touch Israeli-Americans who think their country matters more to Americans than America’s own sons and daughters and grandkids who need jobs and charity to start at home.

    • Mooser
      March 16, 2016, 4:13 pm

      “But I guess we wait until we hear from DT at AIPAC. If he has the balls to stick to his guns from before…”

      Holey Mole’ could that really be what Trump is going to AIPAC to do? To let ’em have it, let ’em know that “making America great again” does not include slavishly following and lavishly equipping Israel? Right to their faces!
      That would be a pretty exciting AIPAC convention.

    • El Cazador
      March 17, 2016, 9:49 am

      Please do not insult the great Albert Einstein by association to zionists of the worst kind, the very inhuman kind, as he was totally AGAINST the creation of Israel under a zionist political party that he called «Nazi and fascist», as a start in his famous December 4, 1948 letter to the New York Times (most certainly refused to be published in 2016 by the same «famous» newspaper, quite possibly owned by zionists and/or pro-zionists…), a letter cosigned by 26 other Jews, all NYC intellectuals, doctors, scientists… He was asking the then US president not to meet with Menachem Begin, the head of the Tnuat Haherut zionist party, and not to support the creation of Israel.


      Among the most disturbing political phenomena of our times is the emergence in the newly created state of Israel of the “Freedom Party” (Tnuat Haherut), a political party closely akin in its organization, methods, political philosophy and social appeal to the Nazi and Fascist parties. It was formed out of the membership and following of the former Irgun Zvai Leumi, a terrorist, right-wing, chauvinist organization in Palestine.

      «The current visit of Menachem Begin, leader of this party, to the United States is obviously calculated to give the impression of American support for his party in the coming Israeli elections, and to cement political ties with conservative Zionist elements in the United States. Several Americans of national repute have lent their names to welcome his visit. It is inconceivable that those who oppose fascism throughout the world, if correctly informed as to Mr. Begin’s political record and perspectives, could add their names and support to the movement he represents.»

      Einstein’s co-signed letter here:

      • jon s
        March 18, 2016, 10:36 am

        El Cazador, we’ve been over this before:

        The letter shows that Einstein opposed Begin’s brand of right-wing Zionism , not Zionism in total.

        Regarding Einstein’s zionism:

        It’s well known that after the death of President Haim Weizmann, Prime Minister Ben Gurion offered Einstein the Presidency. Do you think that BG would have made the offer to a person whose Zionism was in doubt?

        Einstein willed his personal papers and archive to the Hebrew University in Jerusalem:

      • Mooser
        March 18, 2016, 12:10 pm

        “Jon s” don’t you know that when you’ve been reduced to irrelevancies, maybe it’s time to quit?

        What the hell is Einstein supposed to prove? Ended up living in Cambridge Mass. didn’t he.

  4. Steve Grover
    March 16, 2016, 3:56 pm

    I hate to be like eljay and repeat myself over and over again, so instead, go to the link.

    • eljay
      March 16, 2016, 6:20 pm

      || Steve Grover: I hate to be like eljay and repeat myself over and over again … ||

      You do repeat yourself over and over again but – obviously and thankfully – we’re not at all alike:
      – I advocate the universal and consistent application of justice, accountability and equality.
      – You’re a hateful and immoral Zio-supremacist hypocrite who fancies himself a master of “zingers”.

      But you already knew that. :-P

  5. David Doppler
    March 16, 2016, 5:07 pm

    Which astounds more: The author’s hubris? Or the editor’s acquiescence?

  6. surewin
    March 16, 2016, 5:11 pm

    “Rosner says Hillary Clinton is wobbly on Israel.”

    I think he’s more or less correct. MJ Rosenberg has told us that the Clintons can’t stand Netanyahu, and I think that’s true, for obvious reasons going back to the 1990s. If Hillary becomes President, we can be fairly sure that her intentions will have been clarified to the people who have the power to indict her in the meantime. Those people are determined to uphold the agreement with Iran, to continue pushing for a resolution of the Palestinian conflict, probably to prevent Syria from becoming a failed state, and perhaps to wind down the chaos in Ukraine. Among other things. I don’t think her campaign rhetoric is really congruent with what she would do if elected.

  7. Kay24
    March 16, 2016, 8:55 pm

    They want it ALL, don’t they.? Nothing satisfies these ingrates. They try to extract every last drop of blood from everyone, make them feel obligated into doing their bidding because they are entitled to it. No wonder Israel is one of the most disliked nations in the world.

    Who the heck is this man to speculate exactly how much support any American leader must give this greedy nation? We never see articles like this from our true allies. These parasites have our leaders jumping over hoops for them, putting Israel before their own country, and it is STILL NOT ENOUGH? Shame on the New York Times for being Israel’s propaganda tool. I have never seen other journalists criticizing our officials, and saying they are not loyal enough to an alien nation.
    Only Israel’s American slaves do so.

  8. Qualtrough
    March 16, 2016, 10:46 pm

    If the choice is between Hillary and Donald God help us. I have a feeling that Trump is soon going to get the same message that H. Ross Perot did and drop out, so hopefully there may be a less insane Republican running against Clinton.

    • MRW
      March 17, 2016, 5:02 am

      I have a feeling that Trump is soon going to get the same message that H. Ross Perot did and drop out

      Your feeling is wrong, imo. Ain’t gonna’ happen.

    • Mary T
      March 17, 2016, 8:45 pm

      What is “the same message that H. Ross Perot did”? I’m afraid I missed the memo on that.

  9. klm90046
    March 17, 2016, 1:33 am

    What do you expect from the US Edition of the Jerusalem Post? Not much better than from the Knesset on the Hill.

    • El Cazador
      March 17, 2016, 10:00 am

      Pretty good associations… But I can’t laugh with such serious reality exposed.

  10. Marnie
    March 17, 2016, 2:01 am

    Mr. Phil Weiss –

    Best wishes for tomorrow!

  11. Ossinev
    March 17, 2016, 6:36 am

    “Israel depends on an America that asserts itself abroad. Israel needs bipartisan support. It needs stable, predictable American foreign policy. It desires candidates who sing Israel’s praises as often and as loudly as they can”
    = Israel needs more and more Jewish Americans to put the needs and interests of Israel before the needs and interests of America. Oh and as for all you fruitcake Evangelical Goys who back us keep up the pressure – you too should continue to put the needs and interests of Israel before the needs and interests of America.Oh and Messrs Adelson,Saban and all those wonderful co Elders keep that Israel first money flowing we really do love and appreciate what you are doing for Israel your country.

  12. Kathleen
    March 17, 2016, 11:16 am

    “America readers, do you really give a f***** f*** what Netanyahu wants? -” You know many of the NYBloodyTimes readers do…care

    FF one of my favorite curse terms…what a concept.

  13. Rusty Pipes
    March 17, 2016, 12:54 pm

    Unsurprisingly, conservative Israelis prefer neo-con Republicans to neo-lib hawkish Democrats. I’m surprised that Rosner didn’t complain that Hillary gave a grieving widow, Suha Arafat, a hug.

    Even though they love Republicans, especially Republicans who claim to love Israel, Trumpr is making them nervous, not only because he’s dropped the scary term, “neutral,” but because he is not telegraphing his negotiating strategy. There is still some hope for them that the neocon Cruz could win on a second ballot at the convention — even though mainstream Republicans find Cruz really dislikeable.

  14. James Canning
    March 17, 2016, 1:05 pm

    More rubbish from Shmuel Rosner. Rosner’s apparent belief that it is a good thing for Israel, to oppress the Palestinians with endless occupation etc etc etc is simply dead wrong.

  15. Boomer
    March 18, 2016, 6:39 am

    The fix is in. NYT reports:

    “In unusually candid remarks, President Obama privately told a group of Democratic donors last Friday that Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont was nearing the point at which his campaign against Hillary Clinton would end, and that the party must soon come together to back her.”

    Further evidence that the fix is in: Juan Cole features a report about how NYT revised a positive article about Sanders by adding some critical paragraphs after it was published, without indication of the revision:

    What are the odds that any federal employee other than Mrs. Clinton would be able to set up a private email server for official business (national security business at that), decide years later what records to turn over to the government, and not be prosecuted? What are the odds that Mrs. Clinton will be prosecuted?

    • Marnie
      March 18, 2016, 6:53 am

      Which begs the question, at least for me, who is in charge over there? Bernie is getting the heave-ho and let’s all stand behind HRC? The US was taken over years ago, by whom, not sure, but presidents can’t do anything but lip service. Someone said somewhere that the last american president who thought he could do something got his brains blown out in Dallas. And most americans are too worried about feeding their families, taking care of elderly parents or their own bad health to pay much attention to the fact that they are nothing but peasants, voting is a joke and the whole thing is a game set up by someone to give people the crazy idea that their vote means something.

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