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In latest pander to Israel lobby, Clinton smears Max Blumenthal’s criticism of Wiesel as ‘hateful’

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The Clinton campaign has reached a new low: slamming Max Blumenthal because he has dared to criticize Elie Wiesel for Wiesel’s vicious comments about Palestinians and support for the Iraq war.

“Secretary Clinton emphatically rejects these offensive, hateful, and patently absurd statements about Elie Wiesel,” Jake Sullivan, senior policy advisor to Hillary Clinton, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee said in a statement to The Jerusalem Post.

Sullivan released the statement following a Post report from earlier this week on anti-Israel activists who attempted to vilify Wiesel after his death.

“She believes they are wrong in all senses of the term. She believes that Max Blumenthal and others should cease and desist in making them,” Sullivan said.

People should be reading Max Blumenthal’s wonderful takedown of Elie Wiesel at Alternet, which begins with what an inspiration Night was to him as a boy (as it was for me too), before retailing Wiesel’s repeated moral failures, including vigorously supporting the Iraq war and opposing the Iran deal, refusing to criticize Israel ever, while promoting religious nationalist settlers’ expansion in Jerusalem. As Blumenthal promotes the piece on twitter, “How Elie Wiesel used his aura to shield militarists like Hillary Clinton, George W. Bush and Netanyahu.”

Blumenthal rightly defines the struggle here as one between neoliberal elites and marginalized supporters of Palestinians.

With Wiesel’s death, the elites who relied on him for moral cover leapt at the opportunity to claim his legacy. Meanwhile, the teachings and testimonies of Holocaust survivors who insisted on applying the lessons of the genocide universally—including to Palestinians—remained confined to the margins.

That is the battle that is playing out in the Democratic Party platform fight where the Bernie Sanders forces have been crushed. It is the battle playing out in Clinton’s aggressive courtship of neoconservative hawks and her repeated hammering of the only nonviolent movement to put pressure on Israel, Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions. It is playing out also in the claim that Trump’s campaign used a Jewish star to brand Clinton as corrupt and thereby issue a dogwhistle to anti-Semites (I agree with the guy who fired me, Jared Kushner, that Trump doesn’t hate Jews).

Alan Dershowitz said on CNN (thx to Jewish Insider) that Trump is appealing to anti-Semites the same way that Bernie Sanders was appealing to “the anti-Israel left:”

I think he and Bernie Sanders have in common – they are not bigots, personally. But they don’t want to lose the vote, in his case of the hard right, and Bernie Sanders didn’t want to lose the vote to the hard anti-Israel left, so they both, kind of, pandered and let things go

Dershowitz, a Clinton supporter, is clearly right, that a good part of the progressive community in the United States now defines Israel/Palestine as a central issue to them. Sanders hardly pandered to us — he opposed BDS — but he surely moved left to capture our support. We have actual political clout, and Bernie Sanders was able to build a campaign with us because he had escaped the financial clutches of the elitist Israel lobby by raising money at $27 a pop.

Clinton can’t escape those financial clutches. And she thinks she can only gain politically from smearing Max Blumenthal. She is saying, Let the Sanders hard-core stay home or vote for Jill Stein, I don’t need them. But this political season isn’t over yet; the Palestinian-solidarity community is having more mainstream impact than even I imagined a year ago with my rose-colored glasses.

And: isn’t becoming president by marrying neoconservatism the definition of a deal with the devil? What does that do to U.S. foreign policy? Is that why she sought power? Is Hillary Clinton even in touch with her soul?

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  1. just
    just
    July 6, 2016, 1:07 pm

    “And: isn’t becoming president by marrying neoconservatism the definition of a deal with the devil? What does that do to U.S. foreign policy? Is that why she sought power? Is Hillary Clinton even in touch with her soul?”

    1) yes. I believe that Hillary has always been a neocon though.
    2) she’s a neocon hawk. Same as Albright et al.
    3) ???

    (I wonder what Sidney has to say about his clear- thinking son.)

    • Mooser
      Mooser
      July 6, 2016, 2:08 pm

      “3) ???”

      That she always falls in line with, and can’t directly oppose powerful men? Even Repubs, as I remember.

  2. Ossinev
    Ossinev
    July 6, 2016, 1:52 pm

    “Is Hillary Clinton even in touch with her soul?”

    I’m not a US citizen but from what I know, have seen and continue to read about IMHO she appears to be on the verge of becoming the most openly bent and bought President in the modern history of America ?

    It seems to me that she sold her “soul” a long time ago.

    • Marnie
      Marnie
      July 6, 2016, 11:57 pm

      “Is Hillary Clinton even in touch with her soul?”

      Like Tommy Johnson from ‘O Brother Where Art Thou’, who sold his sold to the Devil so he could play the guitar, she sold hers to play with the ‘boys’ and be president of their club.

    • RoHa
      RoHa
      July 7, 2016, 12:04 am

      If she ever had one.

      • BethlehemOlivesRedeem
        BethlehemOlivesRedeem
        July 7, 2016, 2:40 pm

        She has always belonged to the Israel lobby. After all, who instituted the Israel’s strategic Trojan Horse policy of the “Oslo Accords” but her man Bill?

  3. spokelse
    spokelse
    July 6, 2016, 2:05 pm

    isn’t it ever thus? Max is a clear and consistent voice that counters the dominant establishment narrative. It is maddening, per the usual, but expected.

  4. MaxNarr
    MaxNarr
    July 6, 2016, 2:12 pm

    Did it ever occur to you that Max Blumenthal is an antisemite annd his comments are hateful and wrong?

    • annie
      annie
      July 6, 2016, 2:19 pm

      no, it has not. as far as popular opinion is concerned — max blumenthal is one of the most influential jews in the world, and he’s young. that’s just something people will have to accept.

      • aloeste
        aloeste
        July 6, 2016, 2:27 pm

        no surprise there

      • wondering jew
        wondering jew
        July 6, 2016, 3:41 pm

        Max blumenthal is one of the most influential jews in the world. Ha! He has name recognition in the single digits. this is nonsense.

      • oldgeezer
        oldgeezer
        July 6, 2016, 4:08 pm

        @yonah

        He has enough name recognition that he was singled out by name in a statement by a presidential candidate.

        You underestimate his name recognition by a quite a few orders of magnitude.

      • Mr.T
        Mr.T
        July 6, 2016, 4:09 pm

        Well, sure, he doesn’t have the name recognition of a Yonah Fredman, but who does???

      • wondering jew
        wondering jew
        July 6, 2016, 5:00 pm

        you might have a crystal ball and a pulse on the future of the american people, but at this moment in time, despite the clinton condemnation, max blumenthal’s name means nothing to at least 92% of American voters, (eligible voters, those over 18 and I include all illegal aliens as Americans as well, so not even eligible voters, merely residents of America over the age of 18) and I’d bet closer to 94% of Americans would not be able to identify the name.

      • annie
        annie
        July 6, 2016, 5:31 pm

        yonah, popular opinion is frequently not driven by name recognition. a person doesn’t have to know who max is or know his name for his ideas to gain traction. it’s the ideas/message that spread — that’s what’s important. many of the most popular ideas that spread through society that in turn influence society are coined by people whose name 99% of the people will never know. and do you know why they won’t know, because it isn’t important. it’s the ideas that are important — ideas influence society.

        and when an important person says Stop, don’t listen to him, it is human instinct to want to hear what ideas are being silenced and to ask why.

      • just
        just
        July 6, 2016, 5:27 pm

        Lots of voters recognize his name. It’s awesome that the NYT assiduously avoids his voice because it becomes more important every single day to those devoted to and hungry for truth and justice while the NYT and other MSM continue to pander to the failed & fairy tale past. Voters also recognize the name of Sidney Blumenthal.

        (I’d hazard a guess that your “crystal ball” is cracked)

      • wondering jew
        wondering jew
        July 6, 2016, 5:49 pm

        annie- well, then in terms of ideas, you are also talking about the future and not the present, because consciousness of Israel’s oppression of the Palestinians is not a front burner issue for 93% of Americans or residents in America at this point of time. You are being a cheerleader regarding the future rather than an analyst of july 2016 america.

      • annie
        annie
        July 6, 2016, 6:07 pm

        no, i am talking about the present. although the media and governments are primarily (almost exclusively) controlled by adults, the youth drives social change.

        unless you’re in the thick of it, often (generally speaking) you can’t see the movement of social change and popular opinion until it’s too late. like crab grass it moves and spreads below the surface — and then a rain comes and everything seems to sprout over night. but make no mistake, this is happening now — you just can’t see it. this is why there’s such a huge legislative and media push against it, and why all these radical slogans and memes about bds being anti semitic etc etc are being promoted. they are trying to get ahead of the game. but what you don’t see (because it’s being suppressed) is the growth itself (like watching your own hair grow or watching a flower open).

        anyway, we won’t see outcome for a few years, but it’s spreading fast right now. that’s my analysis.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        July 6, 2016, 7:41 pm

        “Max blumenthal is one of the most influential jews in the world. Ha! He has name recognition in the single digits. this is nonsense.”

        And having dealt with Max Blumenthal’s popularity, “Yonah” will now go on to prove that Max Blumenthal doesn’t even really exist!

      • RoHa
        RoHa
        July 7, 2016, 12:07 am

        Influential he may be, but I have to agree with Yonah that most of the world has never heard of him. MW is the only place I ever see his name.

      • silamcuz
        silamcuz
        July 7, 2016, 8:08 am

        Roha

        Max is a highly respected and well-known figure in the activist sphere and within the international socialist and left-wing communities. His views through his many writings are celebrated and revered because of his consistent calls for justice for the oppressed all over the world, as well as unapologetically challenging the status quo and the mainstream media narratives of domestic and global issues.

        I believe for anyone interested in peace and justice to claim they do not know of Max, its says more about them than Max himself.

      • RoHa
        RoHa
        July 7, 2016, 9:59 pm

        Everything you and Annie say about him may well be true.

        But I never see him interviewed or see his name mentioned or his views referred to on Australian or British TV news or current affairs programmes. I do not see his name mentioned in the English language newspapers and web sites I read. (Nor do I see reference to him on those I read in other languages.) Perhaps I have missed the references.

        If major English language sources do not mention a US-based English-language writer, I doubt that his name is widely known in the rest of the world.

      • klm90046
        klm90046
        July 8, 2016, 3:28 pm

        Max Blumenthal is not running for president, so he does not require THAT kind of name recognition. He is well known in the corridors of power, and that’s what matters where policy is formulated. The vast majority of people have never heard of Elie Wiesel, so if you think his biased views don’t count, you’d be wrong.

    • Mooser
      Mooser
      July 6, 2016, 2:36 pm

      “Did it ever occur to you that Max Blumenthal is an antisemite annd his comments are hateful and wrong?”

      “MaxNarr”, this is shocking! How could Max Blumenthal (MAX BLUMENTHAL!! fer gawd’s sakes) be “an antisemite”? He’s Jewish!

      How on earth, why on earth, does a Jewish person become an antisemite? Does this happen often? What could cause this terrible transformation? Please explain.

      • WH
        WH
        July 7, 2016, 2:38 am

        I’ve noticed that Israel’s defenders increasingly no longer bother with the label ‘self-hating Jew’, they just call Jewish critics of Israel anti-Semites as well. The term is really losing its potency (though I guess Corbyn wouldn’t agree at the moment).

      • bryan
        bryan
        July 7, 2016, 6:09 am

        It’s very simple Mooser: I think you will find that Max is using the label “anti-Semite” not in its original form (hostile to Jews) but in its modern form (in favour of human rights, peace, justice. democracy and accountability and hostile to hypocrisy, incitement, corruption, torture, assassination and double standards ).

      • BethlehemOlivesRedeem
        BethlehemOlivesRedeem
        July 7, 2016, 2:47 pm

        anti-semite is the “N word” racist Zionists are reduced to for lack of rational grounds for their blatant spurious supremacism posing as intelligent 21st century discourse defending the “only democracy in the Middle East”.

        hey, as an aside, mondoweiss editors or webmaster, would you please leave off imposing a spell-check function in these letters. When I write the word “anti-semite” I don’t want your machine correcting me by replacing the lower-case “s” with a capital “S”. thank YOU.

      • annie
        annie
        July 7, 2016, 3:07 pm

        bethlehemolivesrede, i have never heard of an automatic function that replaces letters. maybe it’s something you inadvertently turned on. if i spell a word wrong i get a red line under it but it doesn’t auto correct — ever. i’ve fixed commenters spelling in the past (if they write ‘i can’t helb it, i might change helb to help) but not capitalization or anything. so if there’s a spell check it’s not imposed, it’s activated (by you) somehow. good luck.

      • oldgeezer
        oldgeezer
        July 7, 2016, 4:27 pm

        @BethlehemOlivesRedeem

        My android tablet used to do that too. Just turn it off as Annie says. It doesn’t happen on other operating systems/hardware I use.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        July 7, 2016, 5:34 pm

        “I don’t want your machine correcting me by”

        Use the “add to dictionary” tab, and enter it as a correct spelling for you.

      • jd65
        jd65
        July 7, 2016, 6:30 pm

        @ WH: “they just call Jewish critics of Israel anti-Semites as well. The term is really losing its potency…” Yes. And it’s a dangerous thing for it to become meaningless or co-opted as some sort of twisted badge of honor due to it’s being distorted and misappropriated. This phenomenon is due, mainly, to Israel’s policies and actions.

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus
        July 7, 2016, 10:29 pm

        jd65,

        “Antisemitism” as a word has never been anything but a scoundrel’s tool. It cannot ever have been a thought-through, legitimate term:

        – if it were reserved for enmity/ discrimination as a group towards people who just happened to be “Jewish” (as seen by the caller), why is it the only word of its kind? Where are the little parcelled domains of antitalianism, antigermanism, antisinism, antinipponism, etc? These are very real, too. Why can all national/ethnic/racial/etc birth characters content themselves with denouncing generic “racism”, only just this one minuscule tribe not? What is the intention?

        – if it includes (as used by Zionists, other Jewish nationalists and the religious) opposition to a given religion, it may be describing something that, while possibly illogical and distasteful, i.e. discriminating against one given religion instead of religion in general, is surely not illegitimate! Take another example: if the newly minted “anti-islamists” were not tarring everyone with a Middle Eastern etc. origin, no matter if Christian or atheist, with the “Islamic” brush, they might well defend that they are only objecting to the Islamic religion/religious people on the grounds that that particular religion is different than the others.

        If the users of the “antisemitism” word, from the hardline Zionists all the way to some of the most valuable antizionists, ever thought before using it, they would have been unable to apply it to anyone born “Jewish” according to their own definition. But they do. Can anyone believe that those antizionists who call 100% pure wool Israeli-born-and-bred Atzmon “antisemite” use the word to express racism?

        Of course there are racists and intolerance against people “born Jewish” has been part of the mainly European persecutions of different minorities. Racists whose antipathy is limited to only one single type of “other” may conceivably exist but I never met such an animal –racists are by definition intolerant of anyone unlike their precious selves. Would appreciate any sightings of such monoculture obsession.

        I propose to leave the bastard word to the Zionists.

    • Mr.T
      Mr.T
      July 6, 2016, 4:08 pm

      “Did it ever occur to you that Max Blumenthal is an antisemite annd his comments are hateful and wrong?”

      Since those statements are false, why would it?

    • JWalters
      JWalters
      July 6, 2016, 5:59 pm

      MaxNarr, Just wondering, do you believe Jews are entitled to take over the land of Palestine because the Torah says God gave Jews that land?

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        July 6, 2016, 6:52 pm

        “MaxNarr, Just wondering, do you believe Jews are entitled to take over the land of Palestine because the Torah says God gave Jews that land?”

        Oh no, it’s not because of that.
        It’s a much more down-to-earth reason. There are at least 200 million Zionist Jews, (possibly up to 2 billion according to some estimates!) who will inevitably have to have all of Palestine. That is simply an irresistible human mass.

      • MaxNarr
        MaxNarr
        July 7, 2016, 2:57 am

        JWalters, I am more inclined to base Jewish rights on historical and legal facts.

      • Shingo
        Shingo
        July 7, 2016, 7:07 am

        I am more inclined to base Jewish rights on historical and legal facts.

        Rubbish. There are no “Jewish rights” based on “historical and legal facts”.

      • Mr.T
        Mr.T
        July 7, 2016, 12:00 pm

        “Jewish rights on historical and legal facts.”

        LOL. Well, there was a no-account backwater hill people who were constantly getting their asses kicked by the important nations of the time: the Egyptians, Greeks, Babylonians, Persians, Assyrians, Romans, Arabs, etc. They did managed to cobble together a state for about 15 minutes, a few thousand years ago, until they were yet again overrun by their military betters. There things stood for a few thousand years until the Zionist project was illegally inflicted on Palestine. Not much to base anything on.

      • eljay
        eljay
        July 7, 2016, 12:32 pm

        || MaxNarr: … I am more inclined to base Jewish rights on historical and legal facts.

        On Zio-supremacist “facts”, maybe, but not on actual facts.

      • JWalters
        JWalters
        July 7, 2016, 7:54 pm

        MaxNarr,

        “JWalters, I am more inclined to base Jewish rights on historical and legal facts.”

        What specific historical and legal facts do you have in mind? (That’s a very vague statement as is.)

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        July 8, 2016, 2:18 pm

        “What specific historical and legal facts do you have in mind?”

        The 200 million Zionist Jews who want to live there, and as many as 2 billion Jewish Zionists supporting them.

        When you look at it that way, it’s simply the right of history, one of the great migrations of history. Something that makes laws, not follows them! Right “MaxNarr”?

    • Marnie
      Marnie
      July 7, 2016, 12:00 am

      What a silly question, and his comments are honest, they may hurt some (like you for instance), but the truth usually does hurt for people living a lie.

      MaxNarr June 6, 2016 at 9:03 pm with 27 replies As I mentioned previously, we have declared an all out war on BDS. This is only the beginning. – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/profile/maxnarr/#sthash.bMrUrr4H.dpuf

      How’s that working out for you btw?

      • MaxNarr
        MaxNarr
        July 7, 2016, 10:00 am

        Hi Marnie, our war on BDS is working out quite well. I think the evidence speaks for itself.

      • Marnie
        Marnie
        July 7, 2016, 12:05 pm

        It sure does “MaxNarr”

        Reuters
        Business | Mon Jul 4, 2016 2:59am EDT
        Bank of Israel buying ‘hundreds of millions’ of dollars: sources

        JERUSALEM | By Steven Scheer

        The Bank of Israel bought “hundreds of millions” of dollars of foreign currency on Monday, dealers said, after the shekel ILS= continued to strengthen for a fifth straight session.

        One dealer at an Israeli bank said the central bank started buying at a dollar-shekel rate of around 3.84. The exchange rate, which quickly moved to 3.85, had weakened to 3.90 on June 27 in the wake of the Brexit vote.

        The central bank declined to comment.

        Its move came after financial newspaper TheMarker reported that the bank’s intervention policy had come under fire by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s chief economics advisor, Avi Simhon, who was quoted as saying that intervention was tantamount to a protective tariff that raises prices for consumers by deterring import competition.

        He argued, according to TheMarker, that only exporters are harmed by an appreciating shekel and they would be able to absorb a 10 percent appreciation of the currency.

        A spokesman for the prime minister’s office could not immediately comment.

        The Bank of Israel has been buying dollars since 2008, boosting its foreign currency reserves by some $70 billion to $96.5 billion. Its policy is aimed at protecting exports, which comprise about 31 percent of economic activity.

        “The Bank of Israel’s position … has not changed,” the central said on Monday. “The hardship facing Israel’s exports industries cannot be ignored, especially given its importance to growth and productivity in Israel.”

        Policy decisions, it added, are made by the four-member Monetary Policy Committee.

        The dealer said it was likely the Bank of Israel intervened to ease market concerns about a change of policy.

        Bank of Israel Governor Karnit Flug told reporters last week that intervention was an “integral part of monetary policy” since it has prevented further appreciation. She noted that most central banks are adopting very accommodative policies that are acting to weaken their currency.

        “This situation may lead to an erosion of profitability among many businesses in Israel to an extent that will not allow them to survive this period,” Flug said.

      • eljay
        eljay
        July 7, 2016, 12:33 pm

        || MaxNarr: … our war on BDS is working out quite well. I think the evidence speaks for itself. ||

        Yup, evidence shows that the religion-supremacist “Jewish State” is well on its way to lasting a Thousand Years.

    • CigarGod
      CigarGod
      July 7, 2016, 9:25 am

      Don’t you mean to say: There has never been a person named Max Blumenthal?

      • jd65
        jd65
        July 7, 2016, 6:34 pm

        LMAO :)

    • Misterioso
      Misterioso
      July 7, 2016, 12:31 pm

      In the end, Zionism will cease to exist because, like all fascistic/racist ideologies, it contains the seeds of its own demise.

      Please watch this just released video – 9 minutes, 26 seconds in length

      Shymaa’s story from GAZA – “We Are the Ones”

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B8w_kdNr24

      Published on Jun 30, 2016

      Shymaa, a 4 yr old girl, laid in a comma in a GAZA hospital during the summer of 2014. She recovered only to learn that her entire family was murdered during an Israeli bombing. Her story sparked the 2 Unite All benefit album with 30 world famed musicians like Peter Gabriel, Roger Waters, Stewart Copeland, Philip Lawrence (Bruno Mars) and the Love All Love Wins / UDHR (Universal Declaration of Human Rights) movement.

      • just
        just
        July 7, 2016, 2:04 pm

        Thank you so very much Misterioso.

        Beautiful.

    • amigo
      amigo
      July 7, 2016, 4:26 pm

      “Did it ever occur to you that Max Blumenthal is an antisemite annd his comments are hateful and wrong?”Max Nurd

      No .

    • Talkback
      Talkback
      July 8, 2016, 2:30 am

      MaxNarr: “Did it ever occur to you that Max Blumenthal is an antisemite annd his comments are hateful and wrong?”

      Did it ever occor to you that you sound like an antisemite who calls anyone he hates a “Jew”?

    • Froggy
      Froggy
      July 17, 2016, 5:42 pm

      Most people who read MW don’t have the habit of labelling people who tell the truth as ‘liars’.

  5. annie
    annie
    July 6, 2016, 2:36 pm

    i think this is great news and here’s why:

    She believes that Max Blumenthal and others should cease and desist

    leave wiesel alone!!!! no, we won’t leave him alone. between now and the end of time every single time someone mentions him or writes about him the truth about his duplicity, his hypocrisy, his unrighteousness, will be glaringly there in the reactions to him up on that pedestal they’ve prepared for him. it won’t be some squeaky fringe doing it either — we are mainstream.

    so say it louder hillary, say it louder israel looby, scream to bloody murder to leave him alone, and we will be right there to tell you why we will not be silent and why. and that discussion will move into the classrooms and into the media and into the history books right where it belongs.

    wiesel is damaged goods. period. that cannot be erased.

    and people will judge max by his own words.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7qQ6_RV4VQ

    we’re beyond her command, the old road is rapidly agin’

    • just
      just
      July 6, 2016, 4:28 pm

      “we’re beyond her command, the old road is rapidly agin’ ”

      well said, Annie. The new road is paved with informed people devoted to justice.

      ““She believes they are wrong in all senses of the term. She believes that Max Blumenthal and others should cease and desist in making them,” Sullivan said. ”

      Did this bunch ever hear of freedom of speech or thought? Is there anything not Zionist that they CAN tolerate, much less embrace?

      “cease and desist” are fighting words, really. A litigious threat. Poor choice, Jake and Hill~ or didja really mean that? Hmm?

      (btw, I have a hard time reconciling my ‘beliefs’ with her ‘beliefs’ or her actions, so I don’t really give a hoot.)

    • JWalters
      JWalters
      July 6, 2016, 5:47 pm

      Come Senators, Congressmen please heed the call,
      don’t stand in the doorway, don’t block up the hall.

    • annie
      annie
      July 6, 2016, 6:16 pm

      writers and critics who prophesy with your pen
      keep your eyes wide the chance won’t come again
      don’t speak too soon for the wheel’s still in spin
      there’s no tellin’ who that it’s namin’
      For the loser now will be later to win…

      • just
        just
        July 6, 2016, 6:17 pm

        Come mothers and fathers throughout the land
        And don’t criticize what you can’t understand
        Your sons and your daughters are beyond your command
        Your old road is rapidly agin’
        Please get out of the new one if you can’t lend your hand

        (thanks, annie!)

      • annie
        annie
        July 6, 2016, 6:31 pm

        thanks just!!!

        and this:

        The new road is paved with informed people devoted to justice.

        totally!

      • Marnie
        Marnie
        July 7, 2016, 12:14 am

        I’d wager HRC used to sing that song back in the day, consider herself a ‘liberal’ with a keen sense of justice, just like Bob himself. But when so many millions are demanding justice for Palestine, they both support the racist zionist state. HRC is just a politician so her treachery is that of the war hawk that she is, but Bob Dylan, like Elie Weisel, is a phony.

        I’m just at odds with the man who wrote ‘The times they are a changin’ and ‘The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll’ to the man he is today. Same quandry with Weisel.

        ‘In the courtroom of honor, the judge pounded his gavel
        To show that all’s equal and that the courts are on the level
        And that the strings in the books ain’t pulled and persuaded
        And that even the nobles get properly handled
        Once that the cops have chased after and caught ’em
        And that the ladder of law has no top and no bottom
        Stared at the person who killed for no reason
        Who just happened to be feelin’ that way without warnin’
        And he spoke through his cloak, most deep and distinguished
        And handed out strongly, for penalty and repentance
        William Zanzinger with a six-month sentence
        Oh, but you who philosophize disgrace and criticize all fears
        Bury the rag deep in your face
        For now’s the time for your tears’

    • WH
      WH
      July 7, 2016, 2:42 am

      ‘between now and the end of time every single time someone mentions him or writes about him the truth about his duplicity, his hypocrisy, his unrighteousness, will be glaringly there in the reactions to him up on that pedestal they’ve prepared for him.’ I wonder – don’t you think the apparently more universal content of a book like ‘Night’ will outlast his politicking once he’s been away from the public stage a few years? I would guess that most of the people who became fans of the book early in life didn’t really follow his hypocritical positions.

      • Pixel
        Pixel
        July 7, 2016, 11:36 pm

        Seriously, I think a lot of people are just Holocausted-out.

        For young people, it’s not even on their radar.

  6. JWalters
    JWalters
    July 6, 2016, 5:43 pm

    “a good part of the progressive community in the United States now defines Israel/Palestine as a central issue to them.”

    It’s a central issue because it’s a central factor in a strategy of creating perpetual, extremely expensive war profits, hiding behind archaic religious beliefs and the tragedy of WWII.

    For readers who have not yet seen these –
    The coverup of Israeli crimes going back to 1948.
    http://mondoweiss.net/2016/03/a-history-of-silencing-israeli-army-whistleblowers-from-1948-until-today/
    The profitable Israeli global war industry.
    http://mondoweiss.net/2015/10/because-global-supplier/
    Hillary’s tight ties to the Israeli-Neocon war machine.
    https://consortiumnews.com/2016/07/02/how-hillary-clinton-ignores-peace/
    How it got started, online in “War Profiteers and the Roots of the War on Terror”.

    If you think you’re safe from Israel because you’re not Muslim, you are wrong. They will send your families in brigades to die in manufactured wars.

  7. genesto
    genesto
    July 6, 2016, 7:45 pm

    Can’t lose what you’ve long since sold off – for corporate, Neocon and Israel lobby money by the multi-millions! They call Trump the Deal-maker, but HRC has been hollowed out spiritually from all of the deals she has made over the last 30+ years to attain her vast wealth and power.

    Trump would certainly challenge Bush as the worst President of all times. But HRC, with her blind ambition, lust for war and dangerously poor judgement, might not be far behind.

    What a nightmare we all face in this upcoming election!

  8. Kay24
    Kay24
    July 6, 2016, 7:54 pm

    Clinton has to work hard for the shekels thrown her way to win the Presidency. So throwing the Palestinians under the bus, and stifling free speech when it comes to any criticism of Israel and its devoted like Wiesel, is all part of what she must do in return for those shekels and zionist support. Sadly she must dance to tune of the zionists, and taking aim at Max Blumenthal, the son of one her close associates, is part of the orders she must follow. It is pathetic to watch an American leader pretending to forget that we are supposed to have freedom of speech in this country and make a fool of herself.

    • genesto
      genesto
      July 7, 2016, 11:46 am

      Bernie has proven that you DON’T have to grovel and beg for money from these despicable characters. However, you do have to have integrity and an ability to inspire the masses. Too bad, Hillary!

      • Kay24
        Kay24
        July 7, 2016, 3:43 pm

        Bernie tried hard to bring some sanity to our political system, but unfortunately did not have the support and exposure by the establishment and the media. So it will always be that our politicians and future Presidents will sleep with the Devil, serve the Devil, and the American people will only be important when an election comes around.

  9. ckg
    ckg
    July 6, 2016, 8:34 pm

    Hang in there, Max. History will be on your side, not hers. (Given Iraq and Libya, she is behind at the start.)

  10. sulai
    sulai
    July 6, 2016, 8:56 pm

    Hats off to Max for his article and who knows, maybe Hillary is doing him a favor by pointing at him and his article. Negative attention will bring more people to pay attention to what he has to say…

    • jd65
      jd65
      July 6, 2016, 11:56 pm

      Bingo, sulai. We should be thanking Hillary for having her minion state that nonsense about Max.

      And, yeah, the entire piece by Max is very good. It’s very measured and necessary.

    • Pixel
      Pixel
      July 7, 2016, 11:44 pm
  11. lonely rico
    lonely rico
    July 6, 2016, 9:19 pm

    … isn’t becoming president by marrying neoconservatism the definition of a deal with the devil? What does that do to U.S. foreign policy? Is that why she sought power?

    Interesting take by James Petras on Clinton, her misdeeds during her time as US Secretary of State, and the implications if she is elected POTUS –

    http://www.ifamericansknew.org/us_ints/clintonspy.html

  12. xanadou
    xanadou
    July 6, 2016, 9:50 pm

    “Truth and Fiction in Ellie Wiesel’s Night: Is Frey or Wiesel the Bigger Moral Poseur?”
    Alexander Cockburn’s 2006 Counterpunch article:
    http://www.counterpunch.org/2006/04/01/truth-and-fiction-in-elie-wiesel-s-night-is-frey-or-wiesel-the-bigger-moral-poseur/

    Considering that that he had to devote his entire life exclusively to this one subject, without giving any thought to the repeated incidents of genocide post-WW2, to be considered relevant, I expect that Wiesel and his controversial book will be forgotten quite quickly.

  13. tokyobk
    tokyobk
    July 6, 2016, 10:08 pm

    Max’s Wiesel piece is like you say fair and accurate. Wiesel was. thankfully, an amazing force in placing the horror of the Holocaust into everyday consciousness.

    Wiesel fell very far short of any universal application to this and, indeed, became ever closer to retrograde nationalism in Israel.

    Max B can provoke, but the idea that he is an antisemtie is too stupid to seriously debate.

    The Trump tweet was either careless and/or a dogwhistle. You may be right, probably are, that he is not an anti-semite, but that is not the problem with the tweet. His son in law sidesteps the problem that he is feeding a nasty pack. The evidence it was a whistle? The dogs came running. When the image was changed to a circle (evidence in itself) there was a second round of tweets decrying the power that could effect such a change.

    Trump actually insisted his clubs be integrated and lifted longstanding bans on Jews and blacks. I don’t see any other evidence that he is an antisemite at all (I have long been surprised that anyone here thinks he won’t be a yuge friend of Israel) and I think the racism he flirts with is largely schtick.

    That’s bad enough though.

  14. Michael Lesher
    Michael Lesher
    July 6, 2016, 10:36 pm

    Wiesel’s shameless apologetics for Israel have been catalogued for years by Norman Finkelstein and others; Max Blumenthal simply offered an accurate summary. (Wiesel’s suggestion in 2014 that Gazans were deliberately sacrificing their children to Israeli shells may have represented a new low even for Wiesel.)

    I’d just like to add that Wiesel was also guilty of denaturing the moral lessons of the Nazi genocide. He insisted on the uniqueness of Jewish suffering, lobbying against recognition of the Armenian genocide, for instance, and opposed all efforts to compare other instances of bigotry or mass murder to the history of Hitler’s Final Solution — except, as in the Balkans, when it suited the interest of his powerful friends. This amounts to a disastrous legacy, quite apart from his flacking for Israeli violence and apartheid. Wiesel stood near the head of a long line of pro-American opportunists who have cynically invoked the “memory” of the holocaust against official enemies of the U.S. — Iran, Saddam Hussein’s Iraq, Palestinians — while promoting amnesia wherever the perpetrators of similar crimes have had American support. In other words, he manipulated the historic crime of which he was a putative spokesman in a way diametrically opposed to the methods of true moralists, who are concerned first of all with wrongs their influence might help to restrain. My only consolation is the likelihood that his memory will be short-lived.

  15. Qualtrough
    Qualtrough
    July 7, 2016, 12:11 am

    I was just thinking that we should give Hillary credit for not calling Max an anti-semite, when here comes Mr. Narr to do just that! Stupid comments like yours do more harm than good for your cause Mr. Narr, so please keep ’em coming!

    • hank
      hank
      July 7, 2016, 6:45 pm

      I’m normally reluctant to impute any particular significance to surnames , but Mr. Narr’s is too delicious to overlook. Its literal meaning, in both Yiddish and German: “Fool.”

      • Qualtrough
        Qualtrough
        July 7, 2016, 11:23 pm

        hank – If the shoe fits, wear it. Thanks for letting us know. How about Hopfmi? I know what it means, but not which language it comes from.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        July 8, 2016, 2:24 pm

        “Its literal meaning, in both Yiddish and German: “Fool.””

        Don’t kid yourself. He is not a fool. “MaxNarr” is a brilliant Zionist-parody. Pitch perfect, and with an amazing economy of words.

        He is obviously a person that has a amazing ability to write “in character” and is motivated by a deep disgust for Zionism, and a particular kind of Zionist.
        And the way “MaxNarr” makes every word both fit the protocol and twist the knife is genius.

  16. JLewisDickerson
    JLewisDickerson
    July 7, 2016, 2:34 am

    RE: “Is Hillary Clinton even in touch with her soul?” ~ Phil’s question

    MY ANSWER: Unless there’s a new model out I’m not familiar with, I don’t believe cyborgs even have souls.
    Lucky bastards!
    I guess that’s why they’re so damn “sneaky”.

    P.S. Now, this is the real thing, not a cyborg. She’s got soul.
    And, she ain’t sneaky, y’all! I can tell.

  17. David44
    David44
    July 7, 2016, 9:50 am

    I’m not sure I’d go nearly as far as “one of the most influential Jews in the world” (sorry, Annie, but I can think of many candidates who, for good or ill, have far greater influence). But I’m also doubtful that it’s true that one would never see his name outside Mondoweiss, or that he has low name-recognition among the wider public. I ran a quick Google search, which showed that in the last couple of days his name has appeared in headlines in Haaretz, the Jerusalem Post, Breitbart, Arutz Sheva, the Washington Times, the Forward, the Jewish Week …

    There are a couple of interesting aspects to this. One is that his name is in the headlines, which implies that the headline writers expect prior recognition on the part of a good proportion of their readership. The second is that the bulk of these places which assume name-recognition are right-wing sources. In other words, the people who have heard of Max Blumenthal are not primarily those who share his politics, but those who are strongly opposed to him, and who treat him as a symbol of much of what they detest and despise about the anti-Zionist left. Make of that what you will.

    • annie
      annie
      July 7, 2016, 3:27 pm

      hi david, i totally agree there are many many more jews in the world with far greater influence than max blumenthal! however, i prefaced that quote you picked up w/ “as far as popular opinion is concerned” which changes the meaning quite a lot actually.

      as an extreme example consider a country with a dictator who controls the masses. needless to say, if this dictator rules with an iron fist and tortured people and started wars and such he would (likely) have far more influence than any one else in the country as would his 5 or 6 or ten administrators. however, as far as popular opinion is concerned wrt the masses —- A 27-year-old man protesting unemployment by setting himself on fire (even if no one remembers his name) could have more influence (regarding popular opinion) than that dictator.

      think about it.

      In other words, the people who have heard of Max Blumenthal are not primarily those who share his politics, but those who are strongly opposed to him

      ok, now you’ve entered a chicken vs egg theory. one could argue the only reason there’s strong opposition towards him is because he has so much influence on popular opinion (or they believe he has).

      iow, he’s effective. there are many people on this planet who share max’s views. many. so why do they target max? why not me? my opinions are not that different than his. why does he pack auditoriums on college campuses? is he a pied piper stealing all their children’s minds? think about it? no one would give a hoot about max blumenthal’s tweets if he were not influential. there wouldn’t BE articles about his opinion on wiesel if he were not influential.

      the reputation of wiesel is highly coveted real estate on social media and elsewhere including the msm. they want NO competition over his legacy and reputation. and yet they risk this reputation by writing glaring headlines about an opposing narrative/legacy essentially offering it a bullhorn? why would they even do that? it makes no sense whatsoever unless they considered him a threat.

      think about it. he’s a threat that’s why they do it, and he’s a threat because he’s smart, thorough, concise, charismatic, popular, a great speaker, daring and COMPELLING and irreverent to authority.

      he’s a thought leader and they are scared of him.

  18. John Salisbury
    John Salisbury
    July 7, 2016, 9:46 pm

    She HAS to say this. So sad.

    The more important question is whether she has any concept, ANY, of the moral universe.

  19. Pixel
    Pixel
    July 7, 2016, 11:55 pm

    Snakes in Suits: When Psychopaths Go to Work

    Snake in a Pantsuit: When a Psychopath Runs for President

  20. Lillian Rosengarten
    Lillian Rosengarten
    July 9, 2016, 11:47 pm

    Max’s article is courageous,as is his steadfast opposition to the brutal occupation and destruction of Palestinian lives. He and those who resist are heroes while HRC and all who have failed to respond to Palestinian suffering are cowards as well as dishonest. Adoration of Ellie Wiesel is like praying to a false god. Who can know why he opposed so vehemently human rights abuses and failed to speak out for the suffering of Palestinians. He had no courage and failed us all as does HRC’s blind allegiance to a brutal regime.

    • echinococcus
      echinococcus
      July 10, 2016, 12:12 am

      “Who can know why he opposed so vehemently human rights abuses and failed to speak out for the suffering of Palestinians”

      Obvious, my dear Watson: 1) bronze-age tribalism, leading to the idea of a non-existent “peoplehood”, leading to romantic Blut-und-Boden German nationalism with no Blut and even less Boden, 2) more importantly, lotsa moolah, 3) even more importantly, a criminal disposition.

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