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Epic battle looms over accused anti-Semite entering White House, and ‘NYT’ graywashes the moment

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The lead story in the New York Times today is on Donald Trump’s two administrative appointments, including Stephen Bannon as a top counselor. The article is a graywash of the Bannon choice. Not a whitewash; a graywash. The first reference to Bannon says that he is a “rightwing media provocateur,” making him sound roguish instead of dangerous.

It’s not until the 19th paragraph that the paper gets into in-depth criticism of Bannon himself, quoting the Anti-Defamation League.

 Mr. Bannon’s appointment on Sunday set off a fierce response on Twitter and in Washington. The Anti-Defamation League issued a scathing statement calling him “hostile to core American values.”

“It is a sad day when a man who presided over the premier website of the ‘alt-right’ — a loose-knit group of white nationalists and unabashed anti-Semites and racists — is slated to be a senior staff member in the ‘people’s house,’” the statement said.

The Times‘s minimization of these charges may be an unconscious effort to normalize Bannon. It’s a graywash.

By contrast, a Haaretz article about Bannon by Chemi Shalev is not a graywash. Right in the headline it accurately calls Bannon an “accused anti-Semite.” Shalev writes, “American Jews have transformed virtually overnight from insiders to outsiders; the appointment of ex-Breitbart CEO Steve Bannon, an accused anti-Semite, as chief strategist, is bound to exacerbate the tensions.”

The article gives a shocking but true statement of Bannon’s political character:

He is considered the standard bearer for the racist, anti-immigrant alt-right movement and has been accused of harboring anti-Semitic sentiments himself.

An entirely fair summary. And nothing remotely like that is in the Times piece until deep into the article. What’s more, in the next paragraph, Shalev does not let Donald Trump off the anti-Semitic hook either:

Trump has repeatedly and unapologetically disseminated white supremacist tweets. His campaign has used anti-Semitic symbols that Trump has failed to disown even when advised of their offensive content. He has distanced himself from his neo-Nazi supporters only under duress. And under his wings, America has seen an unprecedented outburst of blunt and naked hatred of Jews, which has only gotten worse since his election.

That sentence should be in the New York Times.

The campaign to resist the Bannon appointment should be an epic battle, which will set a precedent for the next months and years. If Trump successfully installs this man in the White House, an alt right accused anti-Semite, things will be very bad for America, and for the actual lives of our people.

The shock that many Jews are experiencing is partly of the making of the Jewish establishment. This graywash in the Times and lack of sufficient alert to what looks like a sudden danger is due in part to the misuse of the term “anti-Semitism.” For years now, pro-Israel Jews slandered Jews and anyone else who fought for Palestinian human rights, contending day in and day out that any criticism of Israel was anti-Semitism. But Trump is not anti-Israel! Therefore he gets cover for an appointment that actually elevates anti-Semitism. Ben Kunkel observes sharply:

Remember that many at the leading Israel lobby AIPAC cheered Trump when he addressed their conference last spring. And now those same followers have to swallow their own medicine. Reports a television producer:

But will AIPAC say anything publicly? Unlikely. The AIPAC policy is to ensure that there is “no daylight” between the US government and the Israeli government, and with Trump being such an unknown, it would be a huge political misstep for the lead Israel lobby organization to criticize Trump at first breath. It needs Trump too much.

Does AIPAC care more about Israel than it does about the rights of Jewish Americans in their own country?

Update:

Neither AIPAC nor the American Jewish Committee (“the leading global Jewish advocacy organization” which “works to enhance the well-being of the Jewish people and to advance human rights and democratic values for all.”) will be making a statement on Bannon:

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  1. CigarGod
    CigarGod
    November 14, 2016, 11:35 am

    As long as both (all) sides keep their Fear Machines well-oiled and fueled, they should be able to tack into whichever way the wind blows.

  2. Jackdaw
    Jackdaw
    November 14, 2016, 1:02 pm

    So Trump is hiring a guy who hates Trump’s (jewish) daughter, Ivanka, and Trump’s new (jewish) grandchild.

    Possible. But not very likely.

    • wondering jew
      wondering jew
      November 14, 2016, 1:56 pm

      So what did you think of the yellen-soros commercial?

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus
        November 14, 2016, 3:12 pm

        It was mercilessly factual. Can’t imagine what objection you might have to it. Are you perhaps a loyal Fed employee or a Soros NGO muckamuck?

      • Bandolero
        Bandolero
        November 14, 2016, 5:36 pm

        Yonah

        I’ld take the commercial as a “mission statement” of the Trump movement, especially the following words: “we will take this country back.” I think it’s a power struggle.

        http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/09/07/has-israel-effectively-colonized-the-united-states/

        Currently it looks like Israel and her lobby rule the USA, but Trump is the figure head of an insurgent movement that wants the country back from Israeli colonialisation. I think that’s the central mission of the Trump presidency.

        I can’t see what’s wrong with that and I don’t think anybody except Israel-firsters will be against that. But I agree it will be a messy process, because Israeli colonialisation of the USA has feeded many ugly sentiments, including racism. And that Israel bills itself as “the jewish state” does will likely make that US liberation struggle even more messy, because it adds a sectarian element – anti-semitism – to the US liberation struggle. But their is likely an added benefit: when the US people will have won their liberation struggle,for example the racist zionist apartheid regime in western asia will likely collapse, too.

    • Mooser
      Mooser
      November 14, 2016, 2:09 pm

      “Possible. But not very likely.”

      “Jackdaw” even tho there are non-Jews listening, we must face the fact that not all Jews are good Jews. Maybe Trump, and Bannon like the good Jews and don’t like the bad ones.
      And that shows they really like us, and want the good Jews to be respected. Anything wrong with that? It’s just like anybody else, you like the good ones, and don’t like the bad ones.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        November 14, 2016, 3:11 pm

        Ah, it’s good to see the ADL understands that principle. The bad ones must be called out, for the sake of the good ones.

        “Republican Jewish Coalition Warns ADL In ‘Compromising Position’ On Trump”.

      • annie
        annie
        November 14, 2016, 3:25 pm

        mooser, remember when the gop had to turn off the comments on the live feed during their convention. the comments coming in were disgustingly anti semitic and racist. totally vile. it didn’t get a lot of press as i recall, but it definitely happened. i read a bunch of them before they were turned off.

      • Yakov Hirsch
        Yakov Hirsch
        November 14, 2016, 4:39 pm

        Mooser November 14, 2016, 2:09 pm
        “Possible. But not very likely.”

        “Jackdaw” even tho there are non-Jews listening, we must face the fact that not all Jews are good Jews. Maybe Trump, and Bannon like the good Jews and don’t like the bad ones.
        And that shows they really like us, and want the good Jews to be respected. Anything wrong with that? It’s just like anybody else, you like the good ones, and don’t like the bad ones.

        Mooser. Very well done.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        November 14, 2016, 7:16 pm

        “the comments coming in were disgustingly anti semitic and racist”

        Were any of them anti-Zionist? That’s what counts!

        It’s the difference between pointing out the African American crime in the US and making fun of tribespeople in Africa.

    • kalithea
      kalithea
      November 14, 2016, 9:01 pm

      Oh lord, I can’t believe I’m agreeing with this….whatever. But I am.

    • silamcuz
      silamcuz
      November 15, 2016, 12:45 am

      Mooser

      t’s the difference between pointing out the African American crime in the US and making fun of tribespeople in Africa.

      Both are racist, only one is more overt than the other. Educate yourself.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        November 15, 2016, 11:19 am

        “Both are racist, only one is more overt than the other.”

        No! Why, I thought they were at the opposite ends of the racism scale.

        “Silamcuz”, as a former pre-med student, I would advise you to buy some vitamins.
        You may be suffering from irony-poor blood.

    • Citizen
      Citizen
      November 15, 2016, 3:50 am

      Yes, very unlikely, even more so since both of his adult sons have Jewish wives, and his other daughter is dating a Jew.

  3. Mooser
    Mooser
    November 14, 2016, 1:06 pm

    Let’s all get this straight. Exposing the machinations and influence of certain groups in turning America into a liberal hell-hole is not antisemitism, it is simply a discussion of the facts. There can’t be a discussion of how we got here without exposing the facts, and Bannon knows ’em.

    Antisemitism is being against Israel. That’s actually being against real Jews and our rights.

    That’ll be the line. And as the article points out, if Americans have any trouble distinguishing between the two, there are watchdog Jewish organizations ready to help guide them.

    • John Smithson
      John Smithson
      November 14, 2016, 5:06 pm

      “Antisemitism is being against Israel. That’s actually being against real Jews and our rights.”

      Right – it’s all turned on it’s head. As for the first paragraph – something along those lines has been a concern of mine since 9/11 when I first started reading about Israel/Palestine. There have indeed been folks influencing things in US policy, and not always in a way perfectly in line with the interests of the US and instead perhaps more in the interest of another nation. Which is very risky business indeed. I’ve always been hoping to get the IP problem resolved peaceably, but seems the pro-Israeli types just keep upping the ante and stretching the rubber band ever more. My hope and prayer is that cooler heads will prevail but we’ll have to see how this plays out.

      A frank discussion about IP and who’s been doing what to influence our leadership here in the US will not reflect well upon Jewish folks in the US – that is an uncomfortable, but unavoidable fact.

      I would also submit that simply being unwilling to kiss certain butts does NOT make one an anti-Semite either. Being singularly pro-US is NOT anti-Semitic. Might not support Israel either – that doesn’t make you an anti-Semite either.

      But who knows how definitions will be twisted in this new era we’re entering…

    • Citizen
      Citizen
      November 15, 2016, 4:02 am

      @ Mooser
      It’s actually in the GOP platform

    • November 15, 2016, 9:39 am

      I believe you are correct “mooser.” I remember when the guy who replaced Jon Stewart on the Daily Show (don’t get cable), virtually the next day, as I recall, there was the warning shot across his bow — an article in the NY Times critical of jokes he made against women and Jews. Well obviously women were the beard there, the Times was warning against jokes about Jews/Israel. And that’s mostly what’s going on here, I think. Can you imagine Trump actually saying something along the lines of, “We cannot continue to support — financially, politically, and morally — what the entire world, what all international law, regards as an illegal occupation of Palestinian land. It’s simply not fair, and it’s un-American.” Can you imagine the response?? A ha!! We told you! So he’ll never say that — Steve Bannon or no Steve Bannon.

      And P.S. to James North: could you please remove those parenthesis from your name? It looks silly, and you’re not.

  4. michelle
    michelle
    November 14, 2016, 1:16 pm

    .
    being as it doesn’t take much to be labeled anti whatever in this country
    let’s see what passes for anti whatever in the kingdom of Trump
    let’s see where his lines are drawn
    .
    instead more of the same
    crystal balls out everyone
    shall we run a poll
    that worked so well for Hillary Wawa Clinton
    .
    can you feel the pull
    Israel is calling its people home
    be safe come home be safe come home
    as if ….
    .
    G-d Bless
    .

  5. wondering jew
    wondering jew
    November 14, 2016, 1:55 pm

    Has an aide that doesn’t need senate approval ever been nixed based on outside pressure? Not in my memory. To fight trump over this appointment seems foolish, so the nyt shies away. Chemi shalev is free to speak from the heart. The ny times has to be ready for battles it can win and must win.

    • James North
      James North
      November 14, 2016, 2:54 pm

      Why fight over the appointment of Chancellor Hitler? He does have widespread German support. And there are only 3 Nazi Cabinet ministers — safely outnumbered by sound, intelligent German conservatives.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        November 14, 2016, 3:01 pm

        “Why fight over the appointment of…”

        And he has vowed to facilitate Jewish emigration to Palestine from Germany, and to move the Embassy to Jerusalem.

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus
        November 14, 2016, 3:09 pm

        Mooser,

        That article is sci-fi, while we do hear of a lot of them promising to move to English-speaking Canada, or Germany or other peachy places in Europe. We still have to hear of any Jewish people moving to the Zionist entity where they will face a Trump-squared regime.

      • Jackdaw
        Jackdaw
        November 14, 2016, 3:49 pm

        @North

        Via New York Times.

        “But people close to Mr. Bannon came to his defense. Joel B. Pollak, an author and editor at Breitbart, called him an “American patriot who also defends Israel and has deep empathy for the Jewish people.”

        http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/15/us/politics/donald-trump-presidency.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=a-lede-package-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

      • James North
        James North
        November 14, 2016, 3:51 pm

        So one Joel B. Pollak is right and the entire Anti-Defamation League is wrong about Bannon’s anti-Semitism? Mooser is going to make chopped liver out of your contention.

      • wondering jew
        wondering jew
        November 14, 2016, 3:50 pm

        James- I will reassess my comment, but skip the hitler stuff, please.

      • wondering jew
        wondering jew
        November 14, 2016, 3:53 pm

        James- brass tacks. Are we / you going to defeat this non cabinet appointment?

        My answer is no. I can’t see it. Show me how? Cite history.

      • annie
        annie
        November 14, 2016, 10:01 pm

        Are we / you going to defeat this non cabinet appointment?

        you ask a non related question

        My answer is no.

        you answer it

        I can’t see it.

        you argue against your opponents imaginary opposite conclusion.

        Show me how?

        you request someone argue against your position.

        Cite history.

        you request historical evidence of an allegation no one made. that said, it’s a far cry from the chuck hagel treatment. they pretend to be concerned about anti semitism so they can wield it as a menacing weapon against critics of israel. that’s all it means to them, they don’t care about anti semitism if the bigot has pro israel bonafides. that’s all. just pointing of the hypocrisy of expecting everyone to moan and grown about anti semitism when they could care less if one (anti semite) is in the white house if it furthers their colonizing of palestine. pff.

      • Keith
        Keith
        November 14, 2016, 7:01 pm

        JAMES NORTH- “Why fight over the appointment of Chancellor Hitler?”

        This comment is so far over the top that you should feel embarrassed to make it. But yes, you are quite correct to oppose the appointment of Hitler as Chancellor. Better late than never.

      • Keith
        Keith
        November 14, 2016, 7:04 pm

        JAMES NORTH- “So one Joel B. Pollak is right and the entire Anti-Defamation League is wrong about Bannon’s anti-Semitism?”

        The Anti-Defamation League is primarily an organization dedicated to increasing Jewish power which refers to anyone that gets in their way as an anti-Semite. Perhaps you should have been at least as concerned about the number of Jewish Zionists in the Obama administration than with one Trump advisor that the ADL labels anti-Semitic. And what will this advisor do? Sit in some office and write memos? God forbid! Are you sensing a pogrom in your future? Do you feel that Zionist Jews have too little power in Washington? Why not just let AIPAC and the ADL submit a list of names for Trump to choose from? Would that make you feel better? Good grief.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        November 14, 2016, 7:19 pm

        “My answer is no. I can’t see it. Show me how? Cite history.”

        “Yonah” why do you come here to argue with yourself? Couldn’t you do that more conveniently without the rest of us butting in?

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        November 14, 2016, 7:39 pm

        “Joel B. Pollak, an author and editor at Breitbart, called him an “American patriot who also defends Israel and has deep empathy for the Jewish people.”

        That’s QEDing them, Jackdaw! How could somebody who “defends Israel and has a deep empathy for the Jews” (according to Joel Pollack) be an anti-semite? Impossible!

        Of course, Jackdaw, you do acknowledge Bannon’s right, nay, his obligation to warn America about the Jewish secular humanists, and the Judeo-Bolshevik Commissariat, do you?

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        November 14, 2016, 7:57 pm

        “James- I will reassess my comment, but skip the hitler stuff, please.” “Yonah Fredman”

        “yonah fredman” word search”*hitler*” returns 90+ hits in your archive.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        November 14, 2016, 7:58 pm

        Keith, don’t worry, the Republican Jewish Committee has warned the ADL they have “compromised” themselves with their criticism of Trump.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        November 14, 2016, 8:53 pm

        James North, I’m afraid your link only confirms “Yonah’s” sanguine attitude. After all, the headline says:
        “White nationalists see advocate in Steve Bannon who will hold Trump to his campaign promises”

        See, it say “white nationalists”. How does that exclude Jews?

      • kalithea
        kalithea
        November 14, 2016, 9:04 pm

        Without realizing it, you’re playing right into the Zionist narrative.

      • kalithea
        kalithea
        November 14, 2016, 11:59 pm

        @echino

        We still have to hear of any Jewish people moving to the Zionist entity where they will face a Trump-squared regime.

        The smart Jews stay put; the dumb ones are squatting all over Palestine, Israel to them, that’s why Israel’s moving ever closer to the extreme right. So I guess when the day that all Christian Zionists dream of, comes; the rest of them can be reassured that all the smart ones were spared. Hopefully for us, they won’t get anymore bright ideas on how to get rid of their less desirable counterparts.

      • November 15, 2016, 12:07 pm

        James North — if you are really using the ADL to support your case, then you, uh, lost. (What’s next? Calling someone a Holocaust denier??)

        To paraphrase Bob Dole, speaking of a colleague advocating for legislation on the Senate floor: “I wish he’d shut up. Some of us are still for this bill.”

    • wondering jew
      wondering jew
      November 15, 2016, 2:44 am

      The nyt is covering the story rather than leading an anti bannon movement. Aipac has only one issue. American Jewish committee is wrong for passing up the chance to comment.
      Steve bannon and the alt right are new to me. The evidence against him is not very substantial, but I consider David duke’s support for trump to be a very black mark against trump and though it is feasible that those who oppose various federal and nonprofit activities in society might pick yellen and soros purely on the merits of their contribution or damage to society and they are targets irregardless of their roots. Anything is possible, but I ain’t buying.

      There are half a dozen issues that are arguable regarding illegal immigration, Muslim immigration, and other issues and reasonable people can disagree. But my sense is that these are not reasonable people, these are ideologues, nationalists, that is white nationalists. I accept that I don’t yet know enough about Steve bannon, but he looks like pat buchanan, that is kkk with a high IQ.

      Some jews and most scientists (as if race is a science), consider most ashkenazi jews as whites. Traditionally white nationalists do not consider jews as whites. (Tradition!)

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        November 15, 2016, 12:07 pm

        Some jews and most scientists (as if race is a science), consider most ashkenazi jews as whites.

        And when you’ve got science (and “some Jews”?) on your side, you win! Jewish whiteness is as scientifically undeniable as climate change! As undeniable a fact as, as, well, “blackness” is, right “Yonah”?

        And thus we will always be afforded our whiteness! Whew, “Yonah”, we dodged a bullet there.

    • wondering jew
      wondering jew
      November 16, 2016, 1:02 am

      I don’t think bannon is hitler, nor is trump hitler, but they are both dangerous men and because some advocates for israel are so blind as to see nothing else but building settlements is indicative that not only their American politics is messed up, but their middle eastern politics as well.
      Mayors have informed trump not to start trouble. Trump wants to succeed, and sometimes to succeed is helped by trouble and sometimes success is defined as avoiding trouble and we don’t know how this will work. Very unpredictable.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        November 17, 2016, 5:36 pm

        “I don’t think bannon is hitler, nor is trump hitler, but…”

        …but I know he’s still out there!

  6. echinococcus
    echinococcus
    November 14, 2016, 1:55 pm

    So, between his pandering to AIPAC, his converted daughter and hard Zionist in-laws and a supposed antisemite joining his group, what is the final effect?

    • John O
      John O
      November 14, 2016, 2:43 pm

      A masterstroke by a totally cynical, manipulative sociopath. Nobody knows where they stand. One week they’ll be kissed; next week they’ll be slapped. Anyone who – like me – has had to deal with workplace bullies will recognise the situation.

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus
        November 14, 2016, 3:18 pm

        Exactly! Until anything happens, there is no way of figuring out which way it’s blowing and he’ll keep it that way as long as possible.
        So the idea would be to prepare for the worst but avoid going half-cocked –there can of course be worse than the current Zionist-guided administration, but no guarantee at all that it won’t. It might even get a little better re relations with Zionism.
        “Antisemitism” –whatever that is, and true or false, is not a significant element in evaluation here.

      • John Smithson
        John Smithson
        November 14, 2016, 6:40 pm

        He didn’t make a fortune in real estate being predictable and easy to outmaneuver.

        Can we just sit tight and wait a little before wetting our pants and crying wolf and that the sky has fallen already?

        Am I the only one here that is willing to keep an open mind and see what ACTUALLY GETS PROPOSED let alone DONE before judging the whole administration as totally racist, bigoted, anti-Semites?

        Being more pro-American than pro-Israel or pro-ANYTHING ELSE is a plus in my book, so I’m willing to wait and see. As for those who think the Administration will be super pro-Israel, I’m guessing they will be in for a surprise, but maybe it’ll be me surprised…

        But can we wait a bit and see before we assume????

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        November 14, 2016, 7:41 pm

        “He didn’t make a fortune in real estate being predictable and easy to outmaneuver.”

        Uh, he didn’t make a fortune in real estate. He went bankrupt five times, and “parked” the debt. Perverted a tax break meant for middle class home-owners and avoided taxes for 20 years. All marks of real financial patriotism, no doubt. And his unprecedented opacity on his finances bodes well, you feel?

      • John Smithson
        John Smithson
        November 14, 2016, 8:55 pm

        Mooser –

        Have you bought and sold or managed commercial real estate? I have, and successfully so far. It’s a tough business. Not that it’s full of ethical people who don’t pull all kinds of morally and legally questionable stuff. But someone who’s been at it as long as he has will be a tough seasoned negotiator who, we can only hope, will use whatever skill he has to advance the interests of the US.

        Can we stop with the Hitler hysterics and wait and see what comes?

        He most definitely did make a fortune, and maybe lost it, then made another and lost it, but nearly all business people who take actual risks will fail quite often before succeeding and then maybe failing again. We actually NEED people to take those risks, that’s how new things get done. He’s no saint, but let’s respect that at least he’s been in the fray and may bring some REAL CHANGE.

        God forbid we should keep an open mind Mooser. TIME will tell and nothing else.

      • RoHa
        RoHa
        November 14, 2016, 11:36 pm

        “God forbid we should keep an open mind Mooser. TIME will tell and nothing else.”

        Certainly not Newsweek.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        November 15, 2016, 12:11 pm

        “God forbid we should keep an open mind Mooser.”

        You are right. I forgot that Trump is sui generis has no history, and emerged spotless from the sea for the election.

    • JWalters
      JWalters
      November 14, 2016, 7:43 pm

      A well put question. Perhaps it means that the Jewish community will not be seen as the monolith claimed by the Zionists. As Mooser points out above, every group has both good and bad members.

      Obviously the situation is complex, and Trump is threading a multi-dimensional needle. He wanted the GOP nomination, and he strategically went for their voting base. The GOP has been cultivating bigotry for years, including Islamophobia on behalf of Israel, so there were a lot of bigots in that base. Now it appears he is trying to cool that bigotry down.

      While the “poorly educated” segment of that base has bigots, it also has a lot of people who are not captives of the oligarchy media. Those people are willing to look at the LIBOR international banking conspiracy and not be shamed by the oligarchy into avoiding the word “conspiracy”. They are willing to keep Wall Street’s Great Recession heist on the radar, and call that a “conspiracy” too. They are willing to accept the overwhelming evidence that 9/11 was an inside job, banned from the oligarchy media. They are willing to be un-bullied by bullsh*t accusations of “anti-Semitism”.

      Many sober people see promise in some of Trump’s statements about foreign policy, particularly statements resisting the establishment’s grip. An excellent analysis from this perspective is in “The Establishment Strikes Back” at
      https://consortiumnews.com/2016/11/13/21557/

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        November 14, 2016, 8:22 pm

        “seen as the monolith claimed by the Zionists. As Mooser points out above, every group has both good and bad members.”

        That’s right.
        Honest hardworking, authentic Zionist and Orthodox Jews with conservative values- very good!
        Multicultural, leftist, secular, financially manipulative, non-observant Jews who push birth-control and “progressive education” on our kids- bad, very bad!

        I see you have figured it out, Walters.

    • John Smithson
      John Smithson
      November 14, 2016, 8:58 pm

      “So, between his pandering to AIPAC, his converted daughter and hard Zionist in-laws and a supposed antisemite joining his group, what is the final effect?”

      Maybe he’s Jew-Neutral and Israel-Neutral.

      Maybe he’ll just make decisions without thinking either favorably or unfavorably towards Jews and Israel.

      Maybe he’ll make decisions solely based on his perception of what is in the interest of the United States.

      Would that really be so bad?

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus
        November 15, 2016, 12:34 am

        Smithson,

        There’s been a moment, in the first months of the campaign, when Trump gave the appearance of just that: Zionism-neutral. It didn’t last long. The signals we get since then are rather something like a mix of no-holds pandering, attack on Iran and vague indications of wanting negotiations with… the PA, again. So yes, I would very much hope for a Zionism-neutral Trump and hope that the unexpected happens against all probabilities –he’s in fact the biggest flake on the scene up to now so anything remains possible even if not probable.

    • kalithea
      kalithea
      November 14, 2016, 9:06 pm

      You ask a very perceptive question which I hope to answer soon below.

  7. Mooser
    Mooser
    November 14, 2016, 2:06 pm

    “can you feel the pull Israel is calling its people home be safe come home be safe come home as if …”

    I have no doubt we’ll be seeing “I’m- so-scared-of-Trump-and-antisemitism-I’m-moving-to-Israel” soon, if not already.

    How could AIPAC object to that?

    • kalithea
      kalithea
      November 14, 2016, 9:11 pm

      That’s not it, but it’s something to do with fear and war.

  8. lyn117
    lyn117
    November 14, 2016, 5:03 pm

    Lest we forget, early in the nazi era, Zionist groups had an alliance of sorts with them, to assist them in forcing German Jews from Germany. Wasn’t that journalist happy to get anti-semitic outpouring? (http://mondoweiss.net/2016/10/personally-outpouring-journalist/) During the nazi era anti-semitism really helped the Zionists towards their goal of getting Israel founded. Now it validates (for them) Israel’s existence.

    • Mooser
      Mooser
      November 14, 2016, 7:45 pm

      “Lest we forget, early in the nazi era, Zionist groups had an alliance of sorts with them, to assist them in forcing German Jews from Germany.”

      If there is one thing us Jews can count on, it’s Jewish religio-political leadership in crisis.

  9. lysias
    lysias
    November 14, 2016, 6:50 pm

    It is hard to believe that somebody like Trump who has made his Jewish son-in-law one of his chief advisers could be seriously anti-Semitic.

    • kalithea
      kalithea
      November 14, 2016, 9:12 pm

      Ding!

    • Mooser
      Mooser
      November 14, 2016, 10:04 pm

      “It is hard to believe that somebody like Trump who has made his Jewish son-in-law one of his chief advisers could be seriously anti-Semitic.”

      And if the Jews have harmed America with their multiculturalism and manipulations of financial systems, it would completely unethical for the Trump administration to let us off the hook for the sake of his Jewish son-in-law.
      Trump couldn’t do that, everybody would notice.
      We can’t overlook harm to America just to try and avoid spurious accusations of anti-semitism, or coddle a Jewish son-in-law.

      • Citizen
        Citizen
        November 15, 2016, 4:34 am

        Why would he select John Bolton for anything?

    • Marnie
      Marnie
      November 15, 2016, 6:08 am

      Does anyone believe that trump is going to run the show? I think he’s the front man for this circus with his appointments doing all the heavy lifting, just like the way he ‘builds’ things. donald trump jr is a psycho. Bannon. and the cherry on top would be john bolton?

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        November 15, 2016, 12:00 pm

        “donald trump jr is a psycho”

        I do believe Trump is arranging security clearances for his kids right about now.

  10. Frankie P
    Frankie P
    November 14, 2016, 7:08 pm

    James North fails to understand that “accused anti-semite” means absolutely nothing. Jimmy Carter is an accused anti-semite for writing Palestine: Peace not Apartheid. Mearsheimer and Walt: accused anti-semites for writing what is now viewed as accurate analysis. Alison Weir: accused anti-semite. The knee-jerk dirty brush of “anti-semite” for any analysis, factual or not, that does not sit well with organized Zionism or anti-Zionist Zionism (Weir) has made “accused anti-semite” a badge of honor. Now let’s sing the chorus of my new hit song.

    If they say it’s anti-semitism, but you know it’s the truth, what you gonna do?
    Chorus of voices: I’m gonna tell the truth.
    If they say it’s racism, but you know it’s the truth, what you gonna do?
    Chorus of voices: I’m gonna tell the truth.
    If they say it’s homophobia, but you know it’s the truth, what you gonna do?
    Chorus of voices: I’m gonna tell the truth.

    Frankie P

    • Mooser
      Mooser
      November 14, 2016, 7:52 pm

      @”Frankie P” that was hilarious. I can see I’m not the only one who get’s the joke. I nearly had an aneurysm at:

      “James North fails to understand that “accused anti-semite” (Steve Bannon) means absolutely nothing. Jimmy Carter is an accused anti-semite for writing Palestine: Peace not Apartheid.”

      The parallel is exact!

    • JWalters
      JWalters
      November 14, 2016, 7:59 pm

      An excellent (short) list of Zionist thought-police hit-jobs. Some accusations of anti-Semitism are, as you say, badges of honor.

  11. Keith
    Keith
    November 14, 2016, 7:18 pm

    JAMES NORTH- “Shalev writes, “American Jews have transformed virtually overnight from insiders to outsiders….”

    That’s the real concern, isn’t it? This is all about power, charges of anti-Semitism a weapon.

    • Mooser
      Mooser
      November 14, 2016, 8:30 pm

      “Shalev writes, “American Jews have transformed virtually overnight from insiders to outsiders….”

      Uh-oh, that’s how a social panic starts. People do the weirdest, strangest, sometimes very self-destructive things when social panic getsa holt of ’em.

      • Citizen
        Citizen
        November 15, 2016, 4:37 am

        @ Mooser
        U mean like…Trump’s fans? Of course, that took awhile, wasn’t “virtually overnight,” was it?

  12. a blah chick
    a blah chick
    November 14, 2016, 7:23 pm

    So actual anti Semite is about to have an office in the White House and the Zionist have nothing to say. Meanwhile BDS people get raked over the coals.

    Like us lefties Jewish America needs to clean house and get rid of these fake “leaders.”

    • kalithea
      kalithea
      November 14, 2016, 9:16 pm

      So actual anti Semite is about to have an office in the White House and the Zionist have nothing to say.

      Zionist strategy has been anti-Semitic from day one.

      • Citizen
        Citizen
        November 15, 2016, 4:39 am

        Yeah, Sabras!

  13. Frankie P
    Frankie P
    November 14, 2016, 7:45 pm

    James North should be deeply embarrassed about this piece, in which he shirks the responsibilities of a journalist in the same way that Rolling Stone did in their debacle rape case.

    Let me offer an aside. I cannot type the url “www.mondoweiss.net” and get into the site. I get some kind of weird error message. I have to go to my yahoo browser and type in “mondoweiss website”. The third link I get when I do so says “Mondoweiss is a hate site” from the Washington Post. There you have it. An “accused hate site”. Fortunately, I have some critical thinking skills and am able to make decisions for myself regarding what constitutes “a hate site”, “hate”, “hatred”, etc. I am willing to look at the piece and decide, based on study, information and experience, what is a “hate site”. If I were a journalist with a desire to report and persuade readers, I would offer a strong rebuttal to the writer of a piece called “Mondoweiss is a hate site”, and I would include in the piece both the content of the writer’s accusation and my rebuttal.

    James North goes heavy on the “accused anti-semite” in this piece, repeated ad nauseum, but he never says what Bannon’s “accused anti-semitism” consists of. Why does the ADL call him an anti-semite? Should we not be presented with this information in the article? Or does the ADL’s labeling suffice for (((James North))). Who made James North the arbiter on anti-semitism, accused or otherwise?

    Note this framing: (((North))): The article gives a shocking but true statement of Bannon’s political character: (Haaretz Chemi Shalev): “He is considered the standard bearer for the racist, anti-immigrant alt-right movement and has been accused of harboring anti-Semitic sentiments himself.” (((North))): An entirely fair summary.

    Now back it up North!! Why is it an entirely fair summary? Why is Bannon an anti-semite? What is Bannon’s political character? You’ve supported the statement, now give us some persuasive information that backs it up!

    What passes for journalism these days. You guys are now taking a page from the mainstream media, creating stories. Congratulations!

    Frankie P

    • Mooser
      Mooser
      November 14, 2016, 8:26 pm

      “You guys are now taking a page from the mainstream media, creating stories.”

      And all of this before Steve Bannon has ever opened his mouth, or given anybody a single clue to the way he thinks about it!

    • John Smithson
      John Smithson
      November 14, 2016, 9:03 pm

      What say you North?

      • Citizen
        Citizen
        November 15, 2016, 5:03 am

        He says: To add an ‘echo’ to your name in solidarity, go to your profile page, click ‘Edit Profile’ and simply type the brackets in around your name.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        November 15, 2016, 11:33 am

        ” click ‘Edit Profile’ and simply type the brackets in around your name.”

        And you, too, can stand in loco parentheses!

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus
        November 15, 2016, 11:50 am

        In solidarity with whom, exactly? Would be nice to know.

  14. Rusty Pipes
    Rusty Pipes
    November 14, 2016, 8:40 pm

    Breitbart might more accurately be characterized as a white separatist site, home to about four overlapping communities (one of which, the “1488ers” AKA neo-Nazis, have anti-Semitism as part of their ideology):

    what, according to Breitbart, does the alt-right want? The agenda is frankly segregationist: “They want to build their homogeneous communities,” after “liberals” allow

    conservative areas of their countries to reject the status quo on race, immigration and gender…. They want their own communities, populated by their own people and governed by their own values.

    And if they don’t get their way? “The risk otherwise is that the 1488ers start persuading people that their solution to natural conservatives’ problems is the only viable one.” The 1488ers—you know, the real racists.

    So, Trump is getting voices in his administration who represent constituencies that support white supremacy and separatists in America. As long as he supports Jewish supremacy and separatists in Israel, the Israel Lobby is not calling him an anti-Semite.

  15. kalithea
    kalithea
    November 14, 2016, 10:34 pm

    It’s odd, isn’t it, all this hyped up anti-Semitism? Yesterday, Huffpo had a big bold headline reading something like: Anti-Semite in the White House, something to that effect and so-called intelligent Democrats there were hyper-ventilating over the Jew-hater and potential threat to Jews.

    And some of you here actually believe that thousands of Jews are gonna flee to Israel when they have it so cushy right here where they are in the U.S.? That’s a laugh too!

    So then, what’s wrong with this picture? Zionists being such a conniving lot, you have to dig a little deeper to get the answer.

    The first leader Trump speaks to on winning the election is his good friend Netanyahu. Trump’s in-laws are Zionists and his daughter converted.

    Trump has two advisers that should make everyone’s skin crawl: Zionist James Woolsey and Neocon ret. Lt. Gen. Mike Flynn. These two goons are dead set on bombing Iran and so is Netanyahu.

    Woolsey tried to fabricate intelligence that Saddam Hussein masterminded 9/11 as a casus belli for the Iraq invasion. He’s one of the Zionists who fabricated intelligence to sell that war to Americans grieving over 9/11. That’s how sick and devious he is and now he’s one of Trump’s top senior advisors! Hello? – major red flag.

    Unfortunately for him, Americans are sick and very weary of war. But start crying anti-Semitism threat from ever internet news headline and every mainstream news outlet and American concern rises for Jews and in consequence the Jewish State.

    Meanwhile Latinos and Blacks, the real endangered species in America under a Trump Presidency get put on the back burner of concern, because we can’t have that narrative distracting from what’s on the Zionist agenda. So what if expanding minorities are going to be suppressed under a Trump administration, when Jews are in trouble. The question is: what trouble are they facing? Bannon? Ha! That’s a laugh!

    So fast forward, a short while into his Presidency; Trump tears up the Iran deal and Netanyahu comes out defending the man who put the Jew-hater in the White House as a true friend of Israel and Jews, and warns that if something isn’t done about Iran, Jews will again be wiped away from the face of the earth et voila! You have a radical change in policy and potential war with Iran made palatable to a concerned American public blinded by media warnings and punditry fear-mongering anti-Semitism.

    The Zionist media started this and you’re running with their fake narrative playing right into the hands of Zionist war-mongers. You know somewhere there’s a Zionist think-tank hoping you take this viral. So forget Latinos and Blacks, the real demographics in trouble under Trump and his side-kick Bannon. Let’s get all concerned over this fake anti-Semitism, play into this hype narrative, and help them prepare a war with Iran, and make Trump the savior of the Jews and the Jewish State.

    That’s why AIPAC is “neutral” on the subject of Bannon. They know something you don’t.

    But will AIPAC say anything publicly? Unlikely. The AIPAC policy is to ensure that there is “no daylight” between the US government and the Israeli government, and with Trump being such an unknown.

    Unknown to AIPAC? Not since Woolsey became Trump’s chief national security adviser, and nothing happens without a nod from Bannon, CEO.

  16. Qualtrough
    Qualtrough
    November 14, 2016, 10:50 pm

    Not at all a fan of either Bannon or Trump, but since when is Mondoweiss taking the ADL’s word on what constitutes anti-semitism? The author doesn’t mention it, but the key charges relate to a claim made by Bannon’s wife during an ugly divorce process. She said that in choosing a school for their child Bannon wondered why there were so many Jewish books in the library and a few other similar observations. In the event they ended up choosing that school, so strong was his anti-semitism. Reading between the lines, it sounds like the major issue is that he may be one of those rare people who don’t ask ‘how high?’ when Zionists ask him to jump.

    • Citizen
      Citizen
      November 15, 2016, 5:10 am

      According to his former wife, Bannon also told her he didn’t want his girls to attend a school with lots of Jewish kids in it because he didn’t want his kids to become “whiney brats.” Bannon has denied all of his former’s wife’s court paper claims on this subject. She said, he said. I wouldn’t trust any alleged facts in any divorce or family court case.

  17. Sibiriak
    Sibiriak
    November 15, 2016, 1:25 am

    Epic battle looms over accused anti-Semite….

    ———————-

    The accusations:

    [Bannon, 62, a former naval officer and Goldman Sachs banker] […]encouraged Trump to paint rival Hillary Clinton as part of a global conspiracy made up of the political, financial and media elite, a message that many felt carried antisemitic overtones. [emphasis added

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/14/steve-bannon-white-house-racism-fear

    Because Jews are over-represented in key institutions of global power (finance, media etc.), it can be said to be anti-Semitic (anti-Jewish) to critique those institutions.

    And then there’s the smoking gun:

    The ex-wife of Donald Trump’s new campaign chief executive Steve Bannon claims Bannon made anti-Semitic comments while the couple fought over which private school to send their daughters to nearly a decade ago.

    The allegations — which came to light amid scrutiny over the appointment of Breitbart News head Bannon to Trump campaign CEO —were made in a sworn declaration by the ex-wife in a 2007 court filing.

    The court declaration was filed in the midst of a contentious divorce battle between them that lasted 10 years. The divorce was initiated in 1997, but disagreements over schooling choices for the couple’s twin girls brought them back to court a decade later.

    […] The court declaration from the ex-wife outlined three separate anti-Semitic remarks that Bannon allegedly made as she toured some of the most elite private schools in the Los Angeles area for their daughters.

    At one, Westland School, Bannon’s ex-wife said he “asked the director why there were so many Chanukah books in the library.”

    Then after the couple toured Willows Community School, she said he “asked me if it bothered me that the school used to be in a Temple. I said no and asked why he asked . . . he did not respond.”

    Regarding another academy, The Archer School for Girls, the ex-wife claimed Bannon “went on to say the biggest problem he had with Archer is the number of Jews that attend. He said that he doesn’t like Jews and that he doesn’t like the way they raise their kids to be ‘whiney brats’ and that he didn’t want the girls going to school with Jews.”

    Ultimately they decided to send their daughters to Archer — but only after a prickly email exchange between the couple, which was also included in the documents.

    NBC News made multiple attempts to reach the ex-wife, but was unsuccessful.

    Preate denied the claims about Archer in an email to NBC News on Friday.

    “At the time, Mr. Bannon never said anything like that and proudly sent the girls to Archer for their middle school and high school educations,” Preate said.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/trump-campaign-ceo-steve-bannon-accused-anti-semitic-remarks-ex-n638731

  18. Marnie
    Marnie
    November 15, 2016, 6:45 am

    I’m weary of the cries of antisemitism. It seems like there are too many things going on that we can’t see. It serves zionism very well when Jews are afraid; they have someplace to run to.

    Why does antisemitism always have top billing over racism? Where can people of color run to when they are threatened, harrassed, assaulted? There’s been more acts of racism than antisemitism, but antisemitism is the only thing talked about. The FBI knows all about Richard Spencer and the KKK, but they do nothing, water it down, call them white supremacists and meanwhile BLM movement is considered terrorist. Only in america.

    Petition to recognize Black Lives Matter as a terrorist … – We the People
    https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/…/formally-recognize-black-lives-matter-terrorist-organi…

  19. hophmi
    hophmi
    November 15, 2016, 9:08 am

    AJC didn’t comment on Steve Bannon because non-partisanship is a very big deal for AJC, and they worry about their 501c3 status more than most organizations do. You can rest assured that virtually everyone at AJC is freaked out by Bannon and Trump and the rejection of pluralism going on in Western polities.

    AJC did something much more powerful to respond to Trump’s election. They formed a Muslim-Jewish Advisory Group with the Islamic Society of North America, an unprecedented and important alliance between mainstream Muslim and mainstream Jewish organizations.

    http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/ajc-and-isna-launch-muslim-jewish-advisory-council-300362171.html

    • annie
      annie
      November 15, 2016, 11:23 am

      AJC didn’t comment on Steve Bannon because non-partisanship is a very big deal for AJC

      yeah, it’s such a big deal if the right wing jewish groups balk about it they fall in line. and then many articles are written about it. and note the ‘signaling’ :

      Joining other groups and individuals opposing Chuck Hagel as secretary of defense, the generally liberal American Jewish Committee (among the older and better known Jewish organizations) has signaled it opposes the potential nomination. Executive director David Harris e-mails me the following:

      The first AJC encounter with Sen. Hagel I recall was when we sought his support, in 1999, for a Senate letter to then Russian President Boris Yeltsin urging action against rising anti-Semitism. We were unsuccessful. On June 20, 1999, we published the letter as a full-page ad in The New York Times with 99 Senate signatories. Only Sen. Hagel’s name was absent.

      Our concern then has only grown since, as we have witnessed his stance on a range of core U.S. national security priorities.

      What is striking is that the opposition to him today is being labeled as “neocon,” when a number of his documented positions, in fact, have been contrary to the Obama Administration’s to date — on Iran sanctions, on a credible military option against Iran, on Hezbollah as a terrorist group, on the special nature of the US-Israel relationship, etc.

      Against that backdrop, what message would the President be sending if he opted to go ahead with such a nomination?

      what it comes down to is support for israel. if someone is deemed pro israel enough it’s swished under the rug. if not they get this treatment:

      http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/08/20/chuck-hagel-and-the-israel-lobby.html

      Schumer later said that Hagel had “tears in his eyes” as he apologized for the offensive caused by the “Jewish lobby” comment. Four days later the nominee met with four top Jewish organizational leaders, ADL’s Foxman, AJC’s Harris, Howard Kohr of AIPAC and Malcolm Hoenlein, executive vice-chairman of the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations. They walked out with mixed reactions, a participant said.

      will bannon have to prostrate in front of the lobby with tears in his eyes only to then to be walked out on “with mixed reactions”. no, he won’t.

    • Mooser
      Mooser
      November 16, 2016, 11:21 am

      “Whatever. You obviously didn’t read what I wrote.”

      “Hophmi”, I rather doubt anybody subjected themselves to that.

  20. Vera Gottlieb
    Vera Gottlieb
    November 15, 2016, 11:29 am

    Batten down the hatches…very rough waters ahead! Could Trump’s regime be the catalyst for the next American Revolution???

  21. kalithea
    kalithea
    November 15, 2016, 12:25 pm

    If Bannon is a white supremacist and I don’t deny he is, he’s an equal opportunity offender and much more so with minority demographics, black and latino, that threaten the conservative wing and his wish to push the country further right.

    Now, this anti-Semitism hype is just that, hype, and feeds into a Zionist narrative that we should not be enabling, so my advice is: move along; nothing to see here.

    Don’t feed Zionism.

    • Mooser
      Mooser
      November 15, 2016, 1:37 pm

      “Now, this anti-Semitism hype is just that, hype,”

      Exactly “Kalithea”! I am dead certain that if the state the US is in domestically had a lot to do with Repubs. grip of Governships and state houses of representatives, and the aftermath of the Wars on Iraq had much to do with our international situation, Bannon would say so, and not blame Jews. It just wouldn’t make any sense.

  22. Maghlawatan
    Maghlawatan
    November 15, 2016, 2:40 pm

    1. Finkelstein was wrong about antisemitism
    2 For the ADL this is the boy who cried Wolf
    3. The court play of AIPAC is so clear. Embrace the dictator. I presume it was the same in the 40s. Rumkowski
    4. Bannon is a Nazi
    5. Beinart Says send the Nazis the Torah. Send it to the settlers.
    6. This is several crises at once
    7. The Mossad will kill Hezb people. Have they the balls to take out US Nazis?
    8 Hezb and Hamas are decent compared to the Breitbart crowd
    9 What a clusterf#ck

  23. Maghlawatan
    Maghlawatan
    November 15, 2016, 4:45 pm

    Jacob Kornbluh ‏@jacobkornbluh 2 h

    Inbox: Steve Bannon to attend @ZOA_National’s annual gala in NY on Sunday.

    • Mooser
      Mooser
      November 15, 2016, 6:32 pm

      “Inbox: Steve Bannon to attend @ZOA_National’s annual gala in NY on Sunday.”

      Well, that should squelch all that antisemitism nonsense. And Bannon and the ZOA can get together on who the real antisemites are.

      • kalithea
        kalithea
        November 15, 2016, 7:28 pm

        Why am I not surprised he’s attending ZOA’s gala? It’s natural for a white supremacist to gravitate to the leading supremacist ideology in this 21st century, Zionism. They’ll surely exchange ideas on how to suppress and oppress and in some cases ethnically cleanse expanding minority demographics: in the U.S., latinos, Muslims and blacks and in Israel, Palestinians (Arab Muslims) and black refugees. Oh, if only one could be a fly on the wall with a microscopic tape-recorder!

  24. Maghlawatan
    Maghlawatan
    November 15, 2016, 5:28 pm

    http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.753318

    But we’re seeing anti-Semitism mainstreamed in a way it’s never been before, and it is emerging out of the American and global right. Groups like the ADL — which depend on institutional connections and political access as their lifeblood — showed immense bravery in standing up to the soon-to-be president when others wouldn’t. They’ll need more courage still as bigotry and hatred penetrate the mainstream, forcing them to confront brokers of power who — unlike the Obama administration or the Democratic establishment — have not demonstrated themselves willing to listen to Jewish challenges without recrimination or reprisal. And it will take yet more bravery to finally cut loose those Jewish organizations who prioritize extreme political ideologies over basic principles of Jewish — and human — equality.

  25. DaBakr
    DaBakr
    November 15, 2016, 7:48 pm

    Of course (((((north)))))) bases a lot of his premises integrity on chemi shaliv article in hrrtz. forget the fact he is an hysterical idiot for thinking he understands the what’s and why’s of American Jews and what dangers they supposedly face. does he understand the kind of Jews who support mw and jvp or sjp and bds? of course he does, this is his core audience except for the few 1000 left-wing israelis who still read this dying rag. Other then the far left ny /la elitist Jews I don’t think shaliv knows squat about the ‘pulse’ of us Jewry. Wait a couple months after the hysteria dies down and usa will be left with the same bloodthirsty hard left ‘peace and love and justice for all’ activists who basically cry for the head of anybody not toting their left wing politically correct line, from so-called liberal a Zionists to center right republicans. not many groups are as intolerant of opposing views then the hard left except for possibly the aryan nations, SPLC, David duke and other fringe right operations.

    If bannon is a jew hater then so is beinart. In fact I would say that beinart is more’dangerous’ for Jews then the head of brietbart.

    • DaBakr
      DaBakr
      November 15, 2016, 8:44 pm

      Edit: the southern poverty law center being a hard left organization not that or matters in terms of intolerance and crying “fascists, racists, islamaphobia, etc.” The fact that the adl is harping on bannons supposed jew-hating shows how knee-jerk politically correct they have become as well.

      P’s. Because many mw commenters have problems recognizing true jew hating versus vulgar language they should understand that david duke admires zionists very much but thinks jews are mud people who should go back to Israel. Angry Arab khalil laughs at accusations of jew hating yet he believes that Jews have absolutely no right to any piece of land in Israel except as a protected minority of the majority population of muslims. Not sure what that makes him but it is certain that no support for a nation for Jews will not endear him to approx 90% of the world’s Jews. MxB and pw are probably guilty neurotic self hating Jews who use progressive ideology and in mx’s case, bogus reporting to pretend they are concerned for the state of modern jewry and that Israel is the enemy of that.
      Bannon, he made some alleged comments (said by an ex wife I contentious divorce) about ‘rich Jews raising their kids to be spoiled or whiny brats’ . He is also close friend’s with some of the most right wing pro zionist jews who write for brietbart regularly. He supports views that a majority of Jews support from hard right to center-left. The left to hard left are pushing the anti semitic mantra harder then anyone. Picked up by the blasé NYT? of course. Did they’whitewash’ bannon ? Hardly. He probably pulls a he’ll of a lot of readers away from the times. Why would they support him?

    • kalithea
      kalithea
      November 15, 2016, 9:29 pm

      except for the few 1000 left-wing israelis who still read this dying rag.

      If that’s the case then you must be a carrion insect on a feeding frenzy cause you just can’t get enough!

    • talknic
      talknic
      November 15, 2016, 9:32 pm

      @ DaBakr November 15, 2016, 7:48 pm

      Did you have anything relevant to say?

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        November 16, 2016, 11:27 am

        “Did you have anything relevant to say?”

        It’s sorta creepy. “Dabakr” goes off into these long mutters. Standing against a wall, looking daggers at everybody, his hand working furiously in his pocket, and muttering. Scary.
        I’m staying near the door, he might go off.

  26. Stogumber
    Stogumber
    November 17, 2016, 1:27 am

    Isn’t this “Steve Bannon” hype mostly an attempt to bully Trump for to get a compensatory pro-Jewish action: namely, abolishing the Iran Deal as quickly as possible?

  27. BillHaywood96
    BillHaywood96
    November 17, 2016, 2:13 pm

    Not challenging his awfulness, but how solid is the antisemitism evidence? All I’ve seen is that his ex-wife reports derogatory comments about a daycare center, and Brannon published a David Horowitz piece that was ostracizing someone from Judaism with the “Renegade Jew” line.

    If that’s all there is, then Brannon’s antisemitism is mostly echo chamber. I mean, is he really playing the role of an active anti-Semite, or is that just a private sentiment that he might have?

    Now his racism, that is well demonstrated in Breitbart content, but let’s be fact-based.

    • John Smithson
      John Smithson
      November 17, 2016, 10:53 pm

      Billy –

      I’m with you on this one. Haven’t heard any real evidence of this Bannon guys anti-Semitism but for his wife’s divorce testimony.

      Having been branded an anti-Semite myself for taking umbrage with Israeli government policies I am a bit tender on the topic.

      Mr North – anything you want to add to the ‘Bannon is an anti-semite’ evidence – other than that someone else says he is?

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus
        November 18, 2016, 4:42 pm

        While we’re at it. Mr. North, would you care to first define exactly what you mean, before slinging accusations of “antisemitism”? Just so we understand what you are saying? Thanks.

  28. Qualtrough
    Qualtrough
    November 18, 2016, 3:37 am

    What say you now Mr. North?

    We are not aware of any anti-Semitic statements from Bannon.

    “While there is a long fact pattern of evidence that Breitbart served as a platform for a wide range of bigotry and there is some controversy related to statements from Mr. Bannon’s divorce proceedings in 2007, we are not aware of any anti-Semitic statements made by Bannon himself. In fact, Jewish employees of Breitbart have challenged the characterization of him and defended him from charges of anti-Semitism. Some have pointed out that Breitbart Jerusalem was launched during his tenure. ”

    http://www.adl.org/sp/stephen-bannon-backgrounder/bannon-backgrounder.html

    • Mooser
      Mooser
      November 18, 2016, 12:11 pm

      … we are not aware of any anti-Semitic statements made by Bannon himself. In fact, Jewish employees of Breitbart have challenged the characterization of him and defended him from charges of anti-Semitism. Some have pointed out that Breitbart Jerusalem was launched during his tenure. ”

      Yeah “North”! How could anybody who does so much for Zionism be anti-Semitic? Huh? Bannon wants to help Jews be safe, and get all they’re entitled to. You call that antisemitism?

  29. wallace
    wallace
    November 18, 2016, 2:48 pm

    Trump and Hillary are owned by the same people. All the handwringing about Trump by the so-called “Establishment” is just for show. His election bolsters the narrative that the USA is deeply – almost evenly – divided by so-called “progressives” and their so-called knuckle-dragging counterparts.

    George Soros can pay for some riots. The Banksters can plunge us into a depression. Trump’s so-called racist supporters will find free speech about the Establishment outlawed – as it is in much of Europe – and martial law will be declared.

    Don’t worry, Trump is their man and will deliver for them.

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