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Israeli journalist who called for unspeakable acts against Ahed Tamimi tries, and fails, to backpedal

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Prominent Israeli journalist Ben Caspit caused international furor last week, when he wrote in his Maariv article that “in the case of the girls, we should exact a price at some other opportunity, in the dark, without witnesses and cameras”.

Caspit has certainly felt the heat in response to his insidious suggestions, and probably began fearing not only for his reputation, but possibly for his job, which besides Maariv also includes the respected Al-Monitor. Israeli activist Ofer Neiman tweeted: “He can’t have it both ways– writing for a liberal peace-oriented outlet and inciting rape/murder/violence.”

Caspit’s article was in Hebrew, but now he is trying to backpedal and ‘clarify’ in English – in a Jerusalem Post article from yesterday.

Caspit titles his piece “Fighting a shaming campaign with the truth”, framing himself as a victim who has simply been misunderstood. He describes his ‘ordeal’:

“Within hours you discover that you’ve turned into Public Enemy No. 1, a modern day pariah; a man who calls for the rape of young girls and destruction of families; a contemporary Nazi. A rare combination of circumstances, a phrase taken out of context, an inaccurate translation and a great deal of evil intention have planted in your keyboard things you never said, and in your brain, things you never thought. All that is left it to chase after the eternal wind in the cyber willows.”

I am proud to say I am one of those who have publicly and critically referred to his first article, though not the first. The critical and most egregious sentence mentioned above, had appeared in mainstream media a day later – for example AP and CBS. The translation was accurate and furthermore, in my article, I provided a greater context than was available otherwise, precisely in order to relate to Caspit’s greater message of incitement, and how that phrase played into it.

The other quote, which Caspit does not refer to at all in his ‘clarification’, is this, as I had written:

“There is no stomach which does not turn when witnessing this clip”, Caspit says, referring to Zionist stomachs, that is.  “I, for example, if I were to encounter that situation, I would have long ago been in detention until end of procedures”. In other words, Caspit is saying he would run amok on the girls to a degree that would get him arrested. That’s what he’s indirectly suggesting would be ‘normal’, because he would do it…

You see, Caspit’s unspecified suggestion for a “price” to be “exacted”, is conditioned by his incitement mentioned here. We don’t know the details of the actions which Caspit imagines would get him arrested. And do we even want to know them? If Caspit suggests he would do those unspeakable actions in the daytime, even if there were cameras filming – what are we to think of the things he, or the others influenced by his suggestions, might do in the dark?

Caspit seeks to portray himself as a ‘man of peace’, who couldn’t possibly suggest that such insidious things be done to Palestinian girls:

“No one bothers to ask him/herself whether or not you’ve devoted your entire career to the peace cause, supported and continue to support the peace agreements and proposals, support the establishment of a Palestinian state alongside Israel, see the settlements an enterprise that has caused more harm than good and is considered in Netanyahu’s office as one of the right’s greatest media enemies”, he bemoans.

In other words, Caspit is trying to point out that all these “leftist” points should count, and that if they were counted, they would ostensibly outweigh any ‘misunderstanding’ of his text. Yet as I have pointed out earlier this month, an Israeli ‘leftist’ general, interviewed extensively on the same Maariv, was calling for ‘tearing the Palestinians apart’ and ‘tossing them across the Jordan’. Being an Israeli leftist proves nothing of the kind that Caspit seeks to prove.

Caspit reduces the whole filmed episode of the soldiers occupying the Tamimi lawn to a “meeting”:

“What’s this all about?”, he asks. “A meeting between two IDF soldiers and the Tamimi family from the village of Nabi Saleh that was leaked to thee Israeli media last Monday”, he answers himself.

One is almost persuaded to think that the Tamimis sat at their kitchen table with two IDF soldiers, perhaps discussing politics and daily trivia. But no, this was not it at all. As Ahed’s father, Bassem, wrote in his excellent piece in Newsweek two days ago,

“Less than half an hour earlier, a soldier shot Ahed’s 14-year-old cousin in the face at close distance with a rubber coated steel bullet, causing severe injuries and leaving him in a coma. Then, two soldiers had jumped the wall of our backyard and forced their way on to our property when Ahed confronted them in an effort to make them leave.”

For Caspit, the video of Ahed slapping the soldier was infuriating: “The video made every Israeli’s blood boil, regardless of his/her political inclinations”, he writes. But this is not true. I am an Israeli, and it was not the video itself that caused my blood to boil. Rather, it was the madness and incitement sweeping across Israeli society, leadership and media – including, in particular, Caspit’s vile incitement.

Caspit is arguably more dangerous than the rightists who regularly bark racist statements against Palestinians (like for example lawmaker Oren Hazan, Likud, who yesterday got on an ICRC bus of Palestinian family relatives from Gaza traveling to an Israeli prison, calling their children “dogs”). It’s precisely because Caspit wears the cloak of a respectable, leftist journalist, that such suggestions coming from him can carry weight also for those ‘peaceniks’ (whose blood nonetheless boils when 16-year-old girls provoke them…)

Caspit tries to argue that actually, he wasn’t inciting at all, quite the opposite, as it were. He claims that the essence of his article was hailing ‘restraint’:

‘In the article itself, I praised the IDF soldiers, for their “superhuman restraint” against Palestinian provocation’, he writes.

There is of course no provocation whatsoever in all this, from the soldiers, in Caspit’s rendering (let us also put aside the seldom mentioned slap from the Israeli soldier which hit Ahed 5 seconds before she slapped him). Anyway, in Caspit’s original Maariv article, he wasn’t actually hailing their restraint for itself, but rather for its PR value:

“Sometimes also restraint is power, and in the case before us, the combatants are worthy of a medal of honor, not reprimand. To keep one’s restraint in this impossible situation is far more difficult than applying force, especially when the bitter enemy in front of you is three girls who do everything to get beaten up, knowing fully well that any laying of a hand by armed combatants upon supposedly innocent girls will serve as a deadly propaganda weapon in the endless war fought for hearts on social media”, he wrote last week (as I had also quoted in my earlier piece).

Caspit is bewildered as to how people (of the “social media masses”) could possibly have misunderstood him so badly:

“Where, then, did the social media masses find the story, according to which I had proposed that the IDF should rape Ahed Tamimi under the cover of darkness? Where did the Satanic plan – accredited to me – to make Palestinian families disappear or to carry terrible crimes on them in the dark come from?”, he asks.

Well, I for one did not say that Caspit necessarily suggested that the girls would be raped. But his suggestion, with its insidious language (paired with the above mentioned additional incitement), certainly left a huge open space for creeps and their wild imagination. On this I wrote:

These are not just words. It’s like when last year, an Israeli former chief educator suggested in a Sheldon Adelson paper that Sweden’s Foreign Minister Margot Wallström might get the ‘Bernadotte treatment’ (assassination), for daring to suggest that Israel might be applying a policy of extrajudicial assassinations. The author, Zvi Zameret, later said that he didn’t actually suggest her assassination. Just like Caspit was not actually saying Ahed Tamimi should be beaten or raped. The details of the crime can be left to the wild imagination of those perpetrating it, “in the dark, without witnesses and cameras”.

Caspit suggests that all this “misunderstanding” came exclusively from non-Israelis:

“No one in Israel understood my article in this light because it was read in the right context – regarding the argument over the timing of Ahed Tamimi’s arrest”, he writes.

Whoa. I’m an Israeli. I understood it “in this light” (or rather darkness). Ofer Neiman, who by the way recently started a petition to hold Caspit to Press Council discipline, has certainly understood it “in this light”. Shani Litman asks today in Haaretz (Hebrew):

“Did the hand of Ben Caspit tremble when he wrote these lines? In polished, clerk-like language, and without saying anything explicitly, the prominent journalist Ben Caspit managed to write a sentence which in its entirety is a threat of chilling violence against the young Tamimi women.”

Litman additionally quotes Caspit who wrote that “the IDF has sufficient capabilities, creativity and means to create such inputs, without paying an exorbitant public price”, and Litman then asks:

“Did the editor hesitate when they read this sentence, the thickness of the words “girls”, “in the dark, without witness and cameras” and “creativity”, and feel totally comfortable with it? How is it possible that no one stopped for a moment to digest these words, that no one’s stomach turned?”, Litman writes (echoing Caspit who wrote that “there is no stomach which does not turn when witnessing this clip”).

These are Israeli people, folks. We’re not that stupid. And Caspit, in his desperate attempt to backpedal, is providing an even more pathetic article, which suggests that its just the goyim who didn’t understand Israeli jargon. So take it from us, the ‘other’ Israelis – you didn’t really misunderstand him. He is now trying to convince us that his whole suggestion was just about timing – arrest them in the night, rather than in the day, as it were (and remember, no cameras, and be creative). Nothing to look at folks, move quietly on.

No, there’s a lot to look at here, and Caspit should be doing a major soul-searching, rather than investing time in such tiring self-apologia.

Towards the end of his Jerusalem Post article, Caspit shows his ‘reasonable’ and ‘merciful’ face concerning Ahed Tamimi:

“As this article is being written, it has been announced that Ahad Tamimi’s custody has been extended by four days. Just as I had originally thought that it was best to arrest her quietly, I now believe that it is unnecessary to keep her for so long in custody.”

So now Caspit is complaining that Ahed is being treated too harshly! Crocodile tears? The system is simply being ‘creative’ – isn’t that what Caspit was suggesting? Ahed Tamimi has been carried around to various prison facilities, put in cold cells, and not even allowed a change of clothes at least in her first 6 days of detention. Israeli-Palestinian lawmaker Ahmad Tibi tweeted yesterday (Hebrew):

‘Ahed Tamimi aged 16 is detained for 6 days and despite the decision of the court President to provide her clothes, this has not been done. “The system” is exacting revenge’. 

That ‘revenge’ is the ‘price’ that the system is now ‘exacting’ upon Ahed Tamimi and her family. It is happening in the darkness of cold cells, where there are no cameras or witnesses. And Ben Caspit has been a part of the incitement leading to all this.

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  1. John O
    John O
    December 26, 2017, 1:15 pm

    I’m a retired editor (of educational books and, more recently, websites) and a former member, and junior officer, of the UK’s National Union of Journalists.

    I have one word for Cesspit – BULLSHIT (or its British equivalent, BOLLOCKS).

    Caspit is claiming that his words were taken out of context, which, if true, is an admission of incompetence. Did he not think, before putting modish opposable thumb to keyboard, what was the editorial line of the publication for which he was writing? What were the likely opinions of that publication’s readership? Is he admitting that he just strung some sentences together, hoping a sub-editor would hack them into a coherent argument? Did he not read what he had written and stop to think about whether he had made his arguments clearly and concisely? Did he not draft and rework his article?

    As I said – BULLSHIT.

    • annie
      annie
      December 26, 2017, 1:49 pm

      exactly! “girls, exact a price …. in the dark, without witnesses”

      please. everyone knows what the implication of that is. if he was talking about your sister or daughter…

      • catalan
        catalan
        December 26, 2017, 1:55 pm

        “please. everyone knows what the implication of that is. if he was talking about your sister or daughter…”
        You stated that she will be shortly released without punishment due to “global pressure”. So why worry? I trust you and am waiting for the release.

      • annie
        annie
        December 26, 2017, 2:32 pm

        So why worry?

        did you read the article? the context being the journalist’s job and reputation and the mind set of those who read his words and think they are acceptable discourse. i do think she will be released relatively shortly and not spend decades behind bars for this alleged infraction (which as i recall was your claim along with making this situation all our fault/responsibility — your typical attempts of diversion/guilt tripping). and i did not say she’d be released without punishment.try to stay on topic.

      • annie
        annie
        December 26, 2017, 2:13 pm

        and what is this:

        To keep one’s restraint in this impossible situation is far more difficult than applying force, especially when the bitter enemy in front of you is three girls

        only a readership who has completely normalized this justification of oppressor vs oppressed occupation mentality could view this situation, of completely militarized and armed soldiers facing slapping teenage girls, as “impossible”. impossible is when your life is threatened. impossible is facing an armed bitter enemy with the opportunity to physical harm you, kidnap you, overpower you — not merely with an opportunity to embarrass or shame you.

        for any mature person, fully armed, it doesn’t take “restraint” not to lash out and exact revenge on an unarmed teen. it’s just common sense.

      • catalan
        catalan
        December 26, 2017, 2:48 pm

        “i do think she will be released relatively shortly and not spend decades behind bars for this alleged infraction”
        That’s some good news around the holidays. I am relieved, for her parents’ sake. Good to see that BDS is paying off.

      • Jonathan Ofir
        Jonathan Ofir
        December 26, 2017, 2:57 pm

        Annie, “To keep one’s restraint in this impossible situation is far more difficult than applying force, especially when the bitter enemy in front of you is three girls”…

        Let’s look at that video – at 0:59, after some light pushes from Ahed, the soldier slaps her, hard. Ahed starts screaming and 5 seconds later manages to slap him. It’s not really ‘restraint’ from the soldier. But this fact is, as I mention, seldom mentioned. It is completely absent in renderings of Israeli media, including Caspit. Not to mention the whole paradigm of occupation – the violence just preceding the event, the fact that the soldiers are not merely an occupation force – but literally occupying the family’s yard. When all of these things are absent from the paradigm, all that is left is ‘unreasonable violence’ – from the occupied.

        As you write, “for any mature person, fully armed, it doesn’t take “restraint” not to lash out and exact revenge on an unarmed teen. it’s just common sense.”

        It’s not really that hard to exercise such supposed ‘restraint’. You’re armed to the teeth, protected all over. All you have to fear is your ego being hurt. And that’s what happened to Israel, collectively.

        https://www.facebook.com/ShehabAgency.MainPage/videos/2240962579279483/?hc_location=ufi

      • annie
        annie
        December 26, 2017, 4:05 pm

        It is completely absent in renderings of Israeli media, including Caspit. Not to mention the whole paradigm of occupation

        what i find astounding is the dearth of msm articles about this event that either fail to mention, or mention at the very end of the coverage, that this took place right after her younger brother was shot in the head. can’t recall which article i read (maybe her father’s) stating the bullet entered his mouth and lodged into his brain, and how soldiers then entered the tamimi property by climbing over the fence. i would be livid if that was my brother. i would be going out of my mind.

        it is as if they think palestinians have no normal emotions. can you imagine if a palestinian entered a settlement after shooting an israeli child, or a settler child, in the head? the people showing restraint here, are without a doubt the tamimi’s. because under similar circumstances, with the perps reversed, a settler family would have greeted the palestinians not by slapping them, but by killing them.

        thanks for your excellent coverage jonathan.

      • Jon66
        Jon66
        December 26, 2017, 7:31 pm

        Annie,
        According to Al Jazeera, “their 15-year-old cousin Mohammad .”
        http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/12/ahed-nariman-tamimi-detentions-extended-171225212559689.html

      • annie
        annie
        December 26, 2017, 9:31 pm

        thanks jon, but your assessment is actually incorrect. first off, it was 16 paragraphs down. 2nd, it wasn’t “according to AJ”. here’s what they wrote:

        According to Bassem, Ahed and Nour were attempting to push the soldiers away from their home in the video after their 15-year-old cousin Mohammad was struck point-blank in the face with a rubber bullet, which left him in a coma for 72 hours.

      • Jon66
        Jon66
        December 27, 2017, 12:34 am

        Annie,
        I’m unclear what the paragraph location has to do with the familial relationship.

      • annie
        annie
        January 14, 2018, 12:19 am

        I’m unclear what the paragraph location has to do with the familial relationship.

        jon, sorry for the late response . for your review, i stated “what i find astounding is the dearth of msm articles about this event that either fail to mention, or mention at the very end of the coverage,

        the location of the information in the article — in this case — 16 paragraphs down, is called burying the context (or burying the lede). lots of people do not read that far down. and if you do not get the significance of her relation being shot directly prior to the slap, so be it. did you read “Liberal Zionists can’t talk about the shooting of Mohammed Tamimi” http://mondoweiss.net/2018/01/shooting-caused-soldier/

    • Marnie
      Marnie
      December 27, 2017, 2:58 am

      Poor Mr. Caspit (look at his picture, he’s so humble, humane, probably calls himself ‘liberal’ when no one’s looking; like in the dark, I assume). Here he tries to persuade to the english speakers out there that he’s been framed, maligned by jew haters, misunderstood and he is, of course, the REAL VICTIM here, not Ahed Tamimi (she’s just an actress after all, not even real if you believe Michael Oren), who sits in jail surrounded by israeli criminals and separate from mother and cousin. Yes of course, it’s the zionist who is being victimized here.

  2. Ossinev
    Ossinev
    December 26, 2017, 2:35 pm

    “As this article is being written, it has been announced that Ahad Tamimi’s custody has been extended by four days. Just as I had originally thought that it was best to arrest her quietly, I now believe that it is unnecessary to keep her for so long in custody.”

    Well perhaps just one more night ?

  3. JLewisDickerson
    JLewisDickerson
    December 26, 2017, 2:41 pm

    RE: For Caspit, the video of Ahed slapping the soldier was infuriating: “The video made every Israeli’s blood boil, regardless of his/her political inclinations”, he writes. ~ Ofir

    MY COMMENT: I just wonder. If it was Ahed slapping a female Israeli soldier, would it be so “infuriating”? I suspect not. I suspect that what Israeli men find “infuriating” (from Latin in furia “in a fury”) is that a video is on the internet showing a young woman slapping a male Israeli soldier, the symbol of the NEW “not gonna take any sh#t” Jewish Israeli male (that some young Jewish women in the U.S. seem to worship/idolize, based upon what I have seen on the internet).

    • Mooser
      Mooser
      December 26, 2017, 5:03 pm

      “not gonna take any sh#t” Jewish Israeli male (that some young Jewish women in the U.S. seem to worship/idolize, based upon what I have seen on the internet).

      Gosh, must not be enough of those to go around, based on the out-marriage rate.

    • JLewisDickerson
      JLewisDickerson
      December 28, 2017, 10:35 am

      [Disclaimer: After spending a lot of time on this, I now feel like I’m pontificating on a subject I don’t really know much about. In reality (I hope), I’m just trying to figure out why I have a strong suspicion that Ahed’s gender is a significant factor to consider when trying to understand exactly what has so “infuriated” the Israelis. Are they particularly irked by assertive Palestinian women? (I suspect a sizable number of them are.)]

      MY COMMENT: Thinking about this further, and having done a bit of rudimentary research, I don’t think the incident would have been nearly so “infuriating” to the Israelis if Ahed had been seen as ‘hitting’ or ‘smacking’ the soldier, rather than ‘slapping’ him. There’s something about a male being slapped by a woman. . . It’s like a very demonstrative form of her saying “How dare you!” (or to onlookers, “How dare he!”) For males, these are often “fightin’ words”)]
      Also, most men do not want to slap back because slapping is not seen as manly [as opposed to giving someone a good pistol-whippin’ (Ray Liotta Mafia GIF)].
      Lastly, the slap (as opposed to something like a punch) generally carries with it a subliminal reminder that it is being delivered by a woman, and this can temporarily incapacitate a young man (if he has been taught that a man is not supposed to hit a woman) until he is able to gather his wits.

      WIKIPEDIA ~ https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bitch_slap
      . . . The term [i.e., ‘bitch slap’] has different connotations for different speakers; it is often used to refer to an especially strong or completely unexpected slap, but some speakers consider bitch slap to refer only to a weak slap (expressing mild contempt, as though the person being slapped is too weak to be given a strong slap). This would distinguish it from the stronger pimp slap.
      Due to the inclusion of the word bitch, this term is often considered misogynistic. . .

      WIKIPEDIA ~ https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pimp_slap#Usage_notes
      For some English speakers, there is a distinction between a pimp slap and a bitch slap, in which a pimp slap is backhanded (delivered with the back of the hand), while a bitch slap is openhanded (delivered with the palm of the hand). For most speakers, however, the two terms are synonymous, referring equally to either kind of slap. . .
      [You might also see a ‘backhanded bitch slap’ or a ‘backhanded pimp slap’ referred to. ~ J.L.D.]

      MY COMMENT: Note that the two most common types of slaps have names with negative connotations. One is a particular type of woman (i.e., a ‘bitch’) that might be described (mostly by males) as being anything from vindictive/vengeful to aggressive — or merely assertive (e.g., she stands her ground, she stands up for herself). Of course, it is more often just used in anger (mostly by men, often of the more misogynistic ilk) simply as a pejorative.
      The other connotation is that of particular type of male, namely a “pimp”. Most men have no problem with slapping being associated with that kind of reviled male. Just as long as the ‘average Joes’ aren’t implicated.

  4. Danaa
    Danaa
    December 26, 2017, 6:19 pm

    I suspect people who read Hebrew, like Jonathan, have had more than a belly-full of the vile things being said on Israeli media outlets and social media. To most israelis Caspit’s suggestion of “things that can be done in the dark” is definitely tame, and many unabashedlty connect the dots in their own postings to their circles of similarly minded “friends’ and spell out those “things done in the night”.

    I keep thinking that someone(s) could do a great service to the world by offering weekly collections of the translated pieces from the great minds of Israeli FB, Twitter and Walla users. Lets just say that calling palestinians “dogs” and “worms” is the least of the names they get called (no insult meant for dogs or worms in this context, of course). I reckon that such an exercise will go long ways towards helping the Israelis to “clean-up” their language, at least in public, after a few weeks. For those israelis who relish shooting out their vilest “feelings” into the ether space, the effort it’d take to keep one’s language under control would by itself be a fine punishment.

    • Marnie
      Marnie
      December 27, 2017, 3:05 am

      Yep, they definitely have to put a silencer on their dog whistles so nobody can figure out what they mean. That’s going to be extremely difficult as israelis have no idea what nuance is. Ha!

  5. RoHa
    RoHa
    December 26, 2017, 7:00 pm

    Exactly what crime has she been arrested for?

    Arson?
    Barratry?
    Failure to abate a smoky chimney?
    Fraud?
    Obstruction of a police officer in the performance of his duty?
    GBH?
    Sale of spirituous liquors without a licence?
    Shooting the King’s deer?

    Does anyone know?

    • Mayhem
      Mayhem
      December 27, 2017, 9:16 pm

      Shit stirrer.

      • annie
        annie
        December 27, 2017, 9:55 pm

        cat calls kettle!

      • RoHa
        RoHa
        December 27, 2017, 11:08 pm

        “Cat calls kettle”
        ???

        Is this some garbled version of the pot calling the kettle black?

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        December 28, 2017, 7:54 pm

        “Is this some garbled version…”

        No, “Annie” is referring to the story of the cat which called the kettle.

        He was calling them home across the sands of Derry, as I recall.

      • annie
        annie
        December 29, 2017, 12:28 am
      • RoHa
        RoHa
        December 29, 2017, 8:04 am

        Thanks, Annie. I’ve never heard that version. It assumes the cat is black.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        December 29, 2017, 1:03 pm

        It went against my populist grain, but we ended up buying a pure copper tea-kettle. It was expensive, but it stopped all the meowing and ethnic slurs around the stove-top.

        btw: Sorry, should be “sands of Dee” ( maybe I can beat RoHa at correcting me)

        ‘O MARY, go and call the kettle home,
        And call the kettle home,
        And call the kettle home,
        Across the sands o’ Dee;’

      • Mayhem
        Mayhem
        December 29, 2017, 5:27 pm

        A Little Village in the Hills, and the Monsters it Spawns
        How a Family Became a Propaganda Machine
        Adeh Tamimi, a child exploited as a political weapon, indoctrinated from birth by a family with close links to terrorism. Her father banned from entering Australia earlier this year.

      • annie
        annie
        December 29, 2017, 6:13 pm

        i feel bad for the roth’s. i don’t think anyone gets over losing a child. but 25 years later, their persistent anger at the villagers of nabi saleh knows no bounds. and to think how horrendous they would feel if, like palestinians, the casualties of their children had been ten fold. they make claims like “Or to say it another way: they are entitled to kill the Israelis and have done so again and again, but it’s not effective” when they paraphrase bassem tamimi “He and everyone else I spoke with in the village insisted they had the right to armed resistance; they just don’t think it works.””

        the thing is, they do have a right to armed resistance.

        a child exploited as a political weapon, indoctrinated from birth by a family with close links to terrorism.

        you should be ashamed mayhem.

        My daughter has spent her whole life under the heavy shadow of the Israeli prison — from my lengthy incarcerations throughout her childhood, to the repeated arrests of her mother, brother and friends, to the covert-overt threat implied by your soldiers’ ongoing presence in our lives. So her own arrest was just a matter of time. An inevitable tragedy waiting to happen.

        https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.831873

        when a child grows up with night raids and tear gas and death, who are you to claim they are indoctrinated from birth by their family? this reminds me:

      • oldgeezer
        oldgeezer
        December 29, 2017, 9:48 pm

        @Mayhem

        Your crap article lost me fairly early. Israelis are not innocent victims. They have been, are still in the process, stealing the land that was inhabited by other people for centuries. Even if I grant you (and I don’t) that you have some historical right to that land from a couple of thousands of years ago you still don’t have the right to merely dispossess the current inhabitants. They do have the right to fight you and since you’ve forced them to rely on older means and not modern weapons with a functioning military the blood is solely on your hands.

        Israel is an outlaw state. It’s genocide and ethnic cleansing is a stain upon human history. I feel sorry for the parents. I can only imagine. No one should ever have to deal with the loss of a child. I feel no sympathy for the state and it’s supporters who wish to use that to support further evil acts. No sympathy for those who pretend that they are hurt by the death when they ignore others. Pure evil. The likes we haven’t seen in quite a few decades.But every bit as evil.

      • Mayhem
        Mayhem
        December 30, 2017, 7:06 am

        @Robbins, the ‘armed resistance’ which you justify without hesitation (even rock-throwing) has gone way beyond expressions of discontentment over ‘occupation’. It generally operates under the premise of wanting to dismantle Israel as the nation state of the Jewish people.

        Gone too far to the point that the actions are counter-productive, mostly because they stimulate (actively stimulate, maybe even intentionally stimulate) the fear of “what will they do if they are in power?”

        The significance of assiduously moral forms of resistance, non-violent in the meaning of non-harming not just in range of tactic, is that the actions stimulate admiration, rather than generating rational fear.

        Ahed Tamimi has crossed a line. The option is certainly there for those who choose to go beyond the limits. However there is ultimately no impunity for those who look to practise ‘armed resistance’ and cause harm.

      • annie
        annie
        December 30, 2017, 11:00 am

        The significance of assiduously moral forms of resistance, non-violent in the meaning of non-harming not just in range of tactic, is that the actions stimulate admiration, rather than generating rational fear.

        Ahed Tamimi has crossed a line.

        iow, you rationally fear ahmed tamimi? yeah, most israelis fear her — understandably. she’s scary!

      • Talkback
        Talkback
        December 30, 2017, 1:20 pm

        Mayhem: “Ahed Tamimi has crossed a line.”

        Mayhem, you disgust me. You really do. The terrorist thugs of your Apartheid Junta which keep the Palestinians under more than half a century under brutal occupation have not crossed the line. But she did. For slapping a terrorist thug after another one shot her relative into the face.

        Expect more hatred. You utterly deserve nothing less.

      • eljay
        eljay
        December 30, 2017, 3:24 pm

        || Mayhem: … Gone too far to the point that the actions are counter-productive, mostly because they stimulate (actively stimulate, maybe even intentionally stimulate) the fear of “what will they do if they are in power?”

        The significance of assiduously moral forms of resistance, non-violent in the meaning of non-harming not just in range of tactic, is that the actions stimulate admiration, rather than generating rational fear. … ||

        The victim chained in the basement has gone too far. She used to just scream and cry, but recently she started slapping and punching the rapist and that stimulates (actively stimulates, maybe even intentionally stimulates) fear of “what will she do if she is liberated?”

        She should have stuck to assiduously moral forms of resistance like screaming and crying. Those actions stimulated admiration – rather than fear – in the rapist.

    • Talkback
      Talkback
      December 28, 2017, 4:30 am

      Defending her home against the terrorist wing of the Zionist Apartheid Junta.

      • Mayhem
        Mayhem
        December 30, 2017, 5:18 pm

        Hate speech.

      • Talkback
        Talkback
        December 31, 2017, 5:33 am

        Mayhem: “Hate speech.”

        Which part? Defending her home? Terrorist wing? Or Zionist Apartheid Junta?

        Everybody should know by now that the establishment of “Israel” was a Jewish terrorist coup d’etat and that Nonjews were expelled and denationalized to achieve and maintain Jewish domination which amounts to full bore Apartheid.

        And I’m not expecting a rational counter argument from a Zionist walnut.

  6. eljay
    eljay
    December 26, 2017, 9:20 pm

    … Caspit is bewildered as to how people (of the “social media masses”) could possibly have misunderstood him so badly …

    According to a Google translation of the original article:

    … In the case of the girls, the price should be collected on another occasion, in the dark, without witnesses and cameras.

    The Tamimi family needs to learn the hard way that such systematic provocations against IDF soldiers will cost them dearly …

    If someone were to publicly suggest that Mr. Caspit needed to “learn the hard way” that his behaviour was unacceptable and that a “price should be collected” from him “in the dark, without witnesses and cameras”, he’d have no problem “misunderstanding” the comment to be a threat of violence against him.

    But because he made the threat, he’s a “victim”. When, really, he’s just an asshole.

    • Marnie
      Marnie
      December 27, 2017, 3:08 am

      Hi eljay, I didn’t read all the comments before I wrote caspit is the ‘real victim’ here.

      • eljay
        eljay
        December 27, 2017, 7:10 am

        || Marnie: Hi eljay, I didn’t read all the comments before I wrote caspit is the ‘real victim’ here. ||

        No worries. It’s not bewildering to me that we’d arrive at the same conclusion about Mr. Caspit. :-)

  7. JWalters
    JWalters
    December 27, 2017, 12:19 am

    Thanks for this absolutely brilliant article. You nail it on issue after issue. Caspit’s pathetic lying is thoroughly documented, on top of his barbaric threats, which were clearly threats of rape.

    This reminds me of those passages in the Talmud which essentially say that the Ten Commandments need only be applied to fellow Jews. Gentiles can be cheated and killed as necessary because they are lesser beings, more like animals than true humans. This is because the Gentile has an animal soul, while a Jew has an additional, superior soul. Reform Judaism has specifically rejected this view, but many in the Orthodox Jewish community believe it.

    Israelis’ rage at a young girl slapping an Israeli soldier is clearly rage at the disrespect, which can only be disrespect for the status of the Israeli, plausibly for the status of the Israeli as a superior being, and thereby an affront to God, sacrilege.

    Caspit’s deep well of anger suggests a deep unresolved trauma. And childhood trauma is one way of getting obedience and compliance from people, children and the adults they become. Is Caspit’s readiness to sadistically traumatize a 16 year old girl a result of a childhood trauma he suffered?

    Is Caspit from an Orthodox community? A Jewish caretaker at an Orthodox temple recently wrote an article on the high incidence of child rape by rabbis in his temple. He walked in on a rabbi raping a young boy and rescued the boy. The rabbi said, “How dare you interrupt me!” The caretaker then talked to a number of people in the community, and found out this was widespread, and carefully hushed up. He estimated that 50% or more of the boys at this temple were raped. He heard the phrase “rite of passage” used.
    “The Child-Rape Assembly Line”
    https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/qbe8bp/the-child-rape-assembly-line-0000141-v20n11

    This raises the possibility that the boiling political and religious feelings of the Orthodox Jewish community (who make up most of the ferocious “settlers” and political leadership), in part reflects anger and fear rooted in personal childhood traumas.

    • Mooser
      Mooser
      December 27, 2017, 4:56 pm

      ,” in part reflects anger and fear rooted in personal childhood traumas.”

      It’s about time somebody besides Jewish mothers got the blame for psycho-sexual trauma in the Jewish male. Always thought that was a bum rap.

    • lonely rico
      lonely rico
      December 27, 2017, 5:26 pm

      Caspit’s deep well of anger

      From the Israeli cesspit I guess.

  8. inbound39
    inbound39
    December 27, 2017, 1:25 am

    I find Caspit repulsive.I find Zionism repulsive also

    • Citizen
      Citizen
      December 27, 2017, 4:51 am

      Trump’s Zionist US ambassador to Israel recently declared nobody should use the term “occupation.” This was not deemed worthy of a comment or two where most of the US pubic get there news: cable TV news/infotainment shows.

      • montereypinegreen
        montereypinegreen
        January 7, 2018, 8:01 pm

        Israel is trying to wriggle out from the implications of the international laws against OCCUPATION, which are clear and unequivocal in their support of the rights of people under Occupation. By trying to end the use of the word, “Occupation,” Israel’s minister wants to push just a little further past the boundaries of illegal settlements and all the other Israeli abuses, and to create just a few more “facts on the ground.”

      • Bumblebye
        Bumblebye
        January 7, 2018, 8:54 pm

        The word they’re replacing it with is ‘control’. I learned this from bbc radio. ‘Occupation’ was mentioned during a brief and uncomfortable discussion of Lorde’s decision. After the newsbreak the presenter had to issue a ‘correction’ – he supposedly should have referred to ‘controlled’ territory. Zioclaws tearing up the dictionary!

  9. Ossinev
    Ossinev
    December 27, 2017, 7:52 am

    I may have missed something but I can`t find any Yahoo comments on Ahed – you know the sort of thing = eg inspired by Iran. Surprising because Herr Lieberman,Gruppenfuhrer Bennett, ridiculous Regev etc are out there calling for her to be jailed for life in solitary (with or without night time re-education visits) etc and he is usually scrambling like hell to keep up with their brand of Fascism. Please don`t tell me he has given up the chase. It has been such a hoot listening to the scripted crap he spews.

  10. Ossinev
    Ossinev
    December 27, 2017, 10:01 am

    Gideon Levy ( one of the few remaining lights within Israel) neatly sums up the quandary which Ahed represents for the most moral and their unbelievably moral political leaders:
    http://normanfinkelstein.com/2017/12/22/intifada-of-slappings/

    “Last Tuesday, Israel Defense Forces soldiers shot Hamed al-Masri, 15, in the head, wounding the unarmed boy from Salfit severely. On Friday, soldiers shot the unarmed Mohammed Tamimi, also 15, in the head, wounding the Nabi Saleh boy severely. Also on Friday, soldiers killed Ibrahim Abu Thuraya, a double amputee, shooting him in the head, too. On the same day Ahed Tamimi, 16, stood in the courtyard of her home with her girlfriend and slapped an IDF officer who had invaded her home.

    Israel woke from its slumber angry: How dare she. The three victims of the barbaric shooting didn’t interest Israelis, and the media didn’t even bother to report on them. But the slap (and kick) by Tamimi provoked rage. How dare she slap an IDF soldier? A soldier whose friends slap, beat, abduct and of course shoot Palestinians almost every day.

    She really has chutzpah, Tamimi. She broke the rules. Slapping is permitted only by soldiers. She is the real provocation, not the soldier who invaded her house. She, who had three close relatives killed by the occupation, whose parents have been detained countless times and whose father was sentenced to four months in prison for participating in a demonstration at the entrance to a grocery store – she dared to resist a soldier. Palestinian chutzpah. Tamimi was supposed to fall in love with the soldier who invaded her house, to toss rice at him, but, ingrate that she is, she rewarded him with a slap. It’s all because of the “incitement.” Otherwise she certainly wouldn’t hate her conqueror.

    But there are other sources of the unbridled lust for revenge against Tamimi. (Education Minister Naftali Bennett: “She should finish her life in prison.”) The girl from Nabi Saleh shattered several myths for Israelis. Worst of all, she dared to damage the Israeli myth of masculinity. Suddenly it turns out that the heroic soldier, who watches over us day and night with daring and courage, is being pitted against a girl with empty hands. What’s going to happen to our machismo, which Tamimi shattered so easily, and our testosterone?

    Suddenly Israelis saw the cruel, dangerous enemy they are confronting: a curly-haired 16-year-old girl. All the demonization and dehumanization in the sycophantic media were shattered at once when confronted by a girl in a blue sweater.

    Israelis lost their heads. This is not what they were told. They’re used to hearing about terrorists and terror and murderous behavior. It’s hard to accuse Ahed Tamimi of all that; she didn’t even have scissors in her hands. Where’s the Palestinian cruelty? Where’s the danger? Where’s the evil? You could lose your mind. Suddenly all the cards were reshuffled: For one rare moment the enemy looked so human. Of course you can rely on Israel’s machinery of propaganda and brainwashing, which are so efficient, to assassinate Tamimi’s character soon enough. She too will be labeled a cruel terrorist who was born to kill; it will be said she has no justifiable motives and that there’s no context for her behavior.

    Ahed Tamimi is a heroine, a Palestinian heroine. She succeeded in driving Israelis crazy. What will the military correspondents and right-wing inciters and security experts say? Why good are 8200, Oketz, Duvdevan, Kfir and all these other special units if at the end of the day the IDF is confronting a helpless civilian population that is tired of the occupation, embodied by a girl with a kaffiyeh on her shoulder?

    If only there were many more like her. Maybe girls like her will be able to shake Israelis up. Maybe the intifada of slappings will succeed where all other methods of resistance, violent and non-violent, have failed.

    Meanwhile Israel has reacted the only way it knows how: a nighttime abduction from her home and detention with her mother. But in his heart of hearts, every decent Israeli likely knows not only who is right and who isn’t, but also who is strong and who is weak. The soldier armed from head to toe who invades a house that doesn’t belong to him, or the unarmed girl defending her home and her lost honor with her bare hands, with a slap?”

  11. Vera Gottlieb
    Vera Gottlieb
    December 27, 2017, 12:23 pm

    Castrate him! This should keep his mind on his own private parts.

  12. Misterioso
    Misterioso
    December 27, 2017, 12:39 pm

    Some good news:

    1.
    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.831456?utm_content=%2Fisrael-news%2F1.831456&utm_medium=email&utm_source=smartfocus&utm_campaign=newsletter-daily
    “Philippines Says Not Moving Its Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem
    Foreign Minister denies reports it is among ten countries planning to transfer embassies
    Haaretz and DPA. Dec 27, 2017, Haaretz.

    2.
    https://www.rt.com/news/414345-friedman-occupation-west-bank/
    “State Dept. rejects US envoy proposal to stop calling West Bank occupied” – report
    27 Dec. 2017

  13. December 27, 2017, 12:58 pm

    “Within hours you discover that you’ve turned into Public Enemy No. 1, a modern day pariah; a man who calls for the rape of young girls and destruction of families; a contemporary Nazi. A rare combination of circumstances, a phrase taken out of context, an inaccurate translation and a great deal of evil intention have planted in your keyboard things you never said, and in your brain, things you never thought. All that is left it (is) to chase after the eternal wind in the cyber willows.”

    Am I wrong or does this not sound like something that would be said by reporters/commemtators that cover the plight of the Palestinians – say by someone like Steven Salaita who are routinely villafied, misquoted, taken out of context and sidelined by Zionists and their MSM lackeys.

    The poor “liberal ” Zionist caspit is now claiming (insincerely) to be the subject of the same distortions he routinely partakes in as a bigot for Israel. It is impossible, IMHO, to be a Zionist and not distort and mislead. The shock of it for caspit must be unbearable – at least I hope so.

  14. Maghlawatan
    Maghlawatan
    December 27, 2017, 1:35 pm

    Cesspit wrote in Hebrew where Palestinians are vermin. It was picked up in English where they are human.

    • Danaa
      Danaa
      December 29, 2017, 3:26 pm

      Excellent point. That’s typically how it is. In Hebrew palestinians are a low form of “human”. But if you dare expose the Hebrew lingua cesspool of racism, then you are at fault for causing trauma.

      • Maghlawatan
        Maghlawatan
        December 30, 2017, 6:00 am

        Hebrew is a huge driver of the system. Nobody else speaks it.

  15. Arby
    Arby
    December 27, 2017, 4:47 pm

    “the combatants are worthy of a medal of honor, not reprimand” – Ben Caspit

    I think they are worthy of, at a minimum, equally well armed opponents. Otherwise, What do members of a terrorist organization merit?

  16. Arby
    Arby
    December 27, 2017, 5:01 pm

    “No one in Israel understood my article in this light because it was read in the right context” – Ben Caspit

    ‘No one in ruined Israel’ understood Caspit’s article as being evil because to evil people, evil is good. Duh!

    There are those in Israel who aren’t mentally and spiritually ruined. Leaving out very young children, it is my understanding – from much reading – that most Israelis support their fascist, violent, godless government. I do find it interesting that there are Israelis, certain orthodox Jews, who do not support their government precisely because it is violent and a human rights violator. I have no use for their religion, but good for them. We will all be corrected, eventually. Better to be corrected on small matters than large.

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