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Yesterday (Sunday), peace activist Ariel Gold was deported from Israel by the immigration authorities at Ben Gurion airport – despite having a visa for studies at the Hebrew University, issued by the Israeli Consulate in New York.

How could this be? This all circles around her support for civil and peaceful protest against Israeli policy, and her support for BDS, Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions, targeting Israel for its human rights violations. Gold is a leading member of the feminist peace activist group CODEPINK.

I was texting with Ariel already on her deportation flight back to US, and we then spoke on Messenger right as she landed. I will be providing excerpts from that further below, but first, the background of the case.

The current deportation was singularly a result of Israeli top ministerial intervention:

–        After several hours of interrogation at the airport, Minister of Public Security and Hasbara Gilad Erdan issued a ‘recommendation’ to the border authorities, wherein he wrote that “Gold has distributed videos on social networks, in which she harasses IDF soldiers and Border Police officers in Hebron, accusing the soldiers of apartheid and oppression, and that their actions do not conform to Jewish values”, that in connection with a campaign against Hewlett Packard, Gold is re-posting posts by the BDS movement “calling for a boycott of the company”, and that “Gold is not only an activist, but aggressively active in Israel and abroad.”

Interior Minister Aryeh Deri

–        Minister of Interior Aryeh Deri revoked her visa, saying: “I am again using my authority to prevent the entry into Israel of a woman who came to act against Israel and call for its boycott. This is a Jew who tried to abuse this fact. Those boycott activists must understand that the rules of the game have changed. We will no longer be allowed to enter the country to harm the state and its residents.”

–        Erdan added: “The policy I have set is clear: Whoever consistently acts to boycott Israel will not enter here. The rules have changed, and the State of Israel will not restrain itself against those who try to harm it.”

Gold says that the only reason cited for refusal of entry was that she “lied,” but Israeli authorities officials who spoke to her refused to say what she had lied about. “I didn’t lie and they wouldn’t explain what it was that I had lied about,” she said.

This whole charade has roots in an occurrence from about a year ago, where Ariel was assaulted by a settler in the occupied West Bank town of Al Khalil (Hebron). As I had reported in the coverage of that incident, officials from the Ministry of Public Security were already vowing then that Gold would not be allowed to enter Israel in the future due to her support for BDS. So upon exiting Israel last summer, Gold was asked to sign a form which was produced by the Population Authority, in which she declared that she would only enter Israel with an approved visa. Despite having issued the visa, Israel has now deported her.

Erdan’s claim that “Gold has distributed videos on social networks, in which she harasses IDF soldiers and Border Police officers in Hebron, accusing the soldiers of apartheid and oppression, and that their actions do not conform to Jewish values”, seems clearly to be based upon the Hebron encounter. Gold says she is “as certain as I can be” that this is the incident Erdan is referring to

So here is the double irony: Gold did not “harass IDF soldiers”. In fact, it was she herself who was being violently harassed by a settler woman as well as a child, and the soldiers stood by and did nothing. She was asking for protection in order to get to the bus at the other end of the street, which the settler was blocking, but the soldiers did not help. Ariel was not “accusing the soldiers of Apartheid and oppression” or that “their actions do not conform to Jewish values”. That part of the conversation was actually initiated by the soldiers, who were asking Gold where she comes from. Gold answers that she’s from New York, and tells details about her Jewish congregation. At this point, the soldier seems to be really surprised (Minute 16:20). “Oh, you’re Jewish?!”, he utters. Then, another soldier says “why are you going against the Jews?”, to which Ariel answers: “I am going with the Jews, I’m going with human rights and Jewish values, these are my Jewish values”.

“To protect killers??” another soldier asks. “To protect our souls, to be on the right side of history”, Gold answers. This is where the soldier provides a longer rendering about what “being Jewish” means:

“If they [Palestinians] have the chance to hurt me, they do this, ok? If I have the chance, and I had the chance, to hurt them, ok, and I didn’t do this, ok? I treat them as nice. If something’s not good, ok, always trying to be a good person, ok? You always trying to paint us like a bad man, or we did bad things, ok? But you talking bullshit, ok? Bullshit. You are a Jew, you need to stand with the Jews…”

Ariel Gold at the Western Wall, image from 2015.

That was pretty much the conversation. It was very far from “harassment” – it would actually be more logical to consider it harassment by the soldiers. And Gold was hardly accusatory. She is very mild in her suggestions, very personal. To consider such a conversation criminal would require a rather fascist mind.

It would also appear, that Erdan is applying a notion wherein the mere fact that Gold has distributed a recording of the incident and the conversation on social networks, is criminal in itself – because it supposedly makes the IDF look bad. This seems to be a rehearsal of the legislation promoted by Defense Minister Avigdor Lieberman, making it a crime punishable by 5 years prison to film soldiers with the purpose of “destabilizing IDF morale and the morale of Israeli citizens.”

So, here are parts of the interview with Ariel Gold, where we start with what happened last year:

JO: You actually managed, with the help of Rabbis for Human Rights, to get a restraint order [against Hebron settler Anat Cohen].

AG: Yes, I took her to court in Jerusalem, I filed for a restraining order, because she had physically assaulted me, and was granted the restraining order. She was not allowed to come near me, she was not allowed to be in any area where I was. And I also spoke with the soldiers afterwards, who had been there, when she assaulted me and had refused to intervene, and they told me that they had been punished for refusing to intervene – essentially for making the Israeli army look bad, and for refusing to protect a Jew, protect an American Jew. So they were forbidden from, I think it was for the rest of the duration that their unit was on duty there, they were forbidden from having coffee at her coffee shop – she used to give the soldiers free coffee. And they were told to not repeat such a thing [refuse to protect an American Jew].

JO: In the video you sent live at the time, it’s only after the violent assault itself, after about 16 minutes, you’re having this conversation with the soldiers, and it’s only then that they actually realize you’re Jewish.

AG: Yes, they realized I was Jewish, and they still refused to provide me any protection and stop the assault, and then they in fact detained me, and kicked me out of the Jewish section in Hebron, and told me that I would have to take the Palestinian bus into Jerusalem, where I was headed – I was headed to an appointment to meet with Rabbis for Human Rights at the time. So that was part of the court case as well, that they kicked me out of the area, which was considered, in Israeli, in their definitions of things, that they had put me in an unsafe circumstance by sending me into the Palestinian area.

JO: So that was on Shuhada Street?

AG: Yes.

JO: And so Anat Cohen, the settler who attacked you, she has this café there nearby, and the soldiers were simply punished by not being able to get free coffee at her café.

[Laughter]

AG: They were quite bothered by that punishment.

JO: It was basically said at the time by officials in Erdan’s Ministyr of Public Security, that you would be barred entry in the future.

AG: Yes, well, [they said] that for future entry I would need permission in advance. It specifically didn’t say ‘barring’.

JO: So you got this visa from the Israeli Consulate in New York, this student visa for your course at the Hebrew University…

AG: Yes, I followed all the procedures appropriately and accurately to apply for a visa, and got one – it was actually a one-year visa for multiple entries in and out of the country. So I had every reason to believe that I could enter the country.

I asked Ariel about her questionings at the Ben Gurion airport. She says there were three questionings. The first quite friendly, where they said she would likely get her entry pass in a moment. Then came the second and third rounds of questioning:

AG: Then I was pulled into a different office for another round of questioning. This questioning was quite angry, and they were yelling at me: ‘What organizations do you belong to, why are you here, what Palestinians do you know, who’s Issa Amro [Palestinian activist], how do you know him, why do you talk to him’… and just kind of on and on… they demanded to see my phone, look through my contacts, they wanted to look at my Facebook pages… and they sent me back out again. Finally, later, they called me back again, and this round they yelled at me that I lied, and [that I] know Palestinians, and finally said ‘you’re being deported’. Oh, and at one point in this round of questioning they started screaming at me ‘how do you have this visa? Where did you get this visa?’, and I said I got this visa from you. Through the proper channels, from your government, from the Consulate in New York City. Which made them unhappy. We now know that two ministers were heavily involved in getting that visa revoked.

JO: Did they give you any official document mentioning the reason for your deportation?

AG: Yes. Well, they verbally told me that the reason for my deportation was that I lied, which I had not done at any time, and [that it was because of] what happened last summer – that was the verbal reason. The paper says ‘immigration risk’.

JO: Immigration risk?

AG: Yes.

JO: So, the risk that you might want to stay, or something?…

AG: Uh, yep. Which is absurd in so may ways, beginning with their ‘Law of Return’, which says that all Jews are welcome there, to the fact that I was there for a specified purpose, had a return ticket, have children in the US, you know… so, ridiculous on all fronts.

Ariel Gold says that she will be trying to contest the decision with the help of an Israeli attorney. But she’s not very hopeful.

We had to joke a bit about all this:

JO: I’m happy they let you back into the US…

AG: I know, these days…

JO: Before you know it you’ll be stateless!

AG: Living in airports!

But more seriously:

JO: So what does this mean in terms of your plans now? Obviously you can’t do the course at the Hebrew University…

AG: Or visit any of my friends in Palestine, or support work on the ground taking place in Palestine for freedom and equality. I feel the sense of isolation, and a sense of strangling upon activists in Palestine. I mean, you can’t have people like me come in and visit and support. And I think that’s the real purpose of banning me in. Having the ban of the 20 organizations, it’s to isolate a movement and separate and divide, just like Israel does, separating Palestinians in the West Bank from Palestinians inside of 1948 [Israel ‘proper’], Palestinians in Gaza, and for many decades not letting Palestinians in the diaspora in. So this is the next level of isolation and divide for those struggling on the ground.

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  1. JLewisDickerson
    July 2, 2018, 10:19 am

    RE: “The current deportation was singularly a result of Israeli top ministerial intervention”

    MY COMMENT: I am reminded of what Goebbels allegedly told Fritz Lang.

    FROM WIKIPEDIA:
    Alleged Jewish ‘Honorary Aryans’
    For example, this status was offered to (and declined by) composer Emmerich Kálmán, who was a Hungarian national, but ethnically Jewish.[1] Film director Fritz Lang recalled that Joseph Goebbels had made a similar offer to him, saying, “Mr. Lang, we decide who is Jewish and who is not,” and prompting his departure for Paris; at least one biographer views the story as apocryphal.[2]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3AHonorary_Aryan

    • JLewisDickerson
      July 2, 2018, 10:42 am

      P.S.
      ALSO SEE:
      Fritz Lang
      From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ~ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritz_Lang

      (EXCERPTS) Friedrich Christian Anton “Fritz” Lang (December 5, 1890 – August 2, 1976) was an Austrian-German-American filmmaker, screenwriter, and occasional film producer and actor.[2] One of the best-known émigrés from Germany’s school of Expressionism, he was dubbed the “Master of Darkness” by the British Film Institute.[3]

      His most famous films include the groundbreaking futuristic Metropolis (1927) and the also influential M (1931), a film noir precursor that he made before he moved to the United States. . .

      . . . At the end of 1932, Lang started filming The Testament of Dr. Mabuse. Adolf Hitler came to power in January 1933, and by March 30, the new regime banned it as an incitement to public disorder. Testament is sometimes deemed an anti-Nazi film as Lang had put phrases used by the Nazis into the mouth of the title character.

      Lang was worried about the advent of the Nazi regime, partly because of his Jewish heritage,[13] whereas his wife and screenwriter Thea von Harbou had started to sympathize with the Nazis in the early 1930s and joined the NSDAP in 1940. They soon divorced. Lang’s fears would be realized following his departure from Austria, as under the Nuremberg Laws he would be identified as a Jew even though his mother was a converted Roman Catholic, and he was raised as such.

      Emigration
      According to Lang, propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels called Lang to his offices to inform him that The Testament of Dr Mabuse was being banned but that he was nevertheless so impressed by Lang’s abilities as a filmmaker (especially Metropolis), he was offering Lang a position as the head of German film studio UFA. Lang had stated that it was during this meeting that he had decided to leave for Paris – but that the banks had closed by the time the meeting was over. Lang has stated that he fled that very evening.[14][15][16] This statement has been found wrong after his passport of the time showed that he travelled a few times during 1933 to and from Germany,[17] where he got his divorce from Thea von Harbou, who stayed behind, late in 1933.[18]

      Lang finally left Berlin on 31 July 1933, four months after his meeting with Goebbels and supposed dramatic escape. He moved to Paris.[19]

      In Paris, Lang filmed a version of Ferenc Molnár’s Liliom, starring Charles Boyer. This was Lang’s only film in French (not counting the French version of Testament). He then went to the United States.[19] . . .

    • Rashers2
      July 3, 2018, 9:30 am

      Yes, Emmerich Kálmán indeed told the Nazis to put their “honorary Aryan” status where the sun didn’t shine, fled, as once before noted here, and his opus was condemned as “degenerate”. Kálmán seems to have been an artist of all-round good heart and principle: in 1928, amid pervasive economic deprivation following the collapse of the Austro-Hungarian Empire and the Austrian hyper-inflation, he composed an escapist extravaganza (and box office hit), „Die Herzogin von Chicago“, which called for no fewer than three musical ensembles (full orchestra, Gypsy orchestra and jazz band) and many score of choristers and dancers – de Mille’s proverbial “cast of thousands”. The huge scale of the production was designed in part to provide paid employment for the myriad out-of-work and often near-starving performing artists of post-Great War Vienna.
      Kálmán’s compatriot, Franz Lehár, was arguably less principled and accepted “honorary Aryan-ship” for wife Sophie, a Jewish convert to Catholicism. Given the climate of the times and that he did this to protect a woman he loved, it’s difficult to condemn him.
      One may only speculate on how Kálmán might have viewed ministers Deri and Erdan……

  2. American Perspective
    July 2, 2018, 12:46 pm

    Code Pink, the far-right Ba’athist group that Gold leads, is known for its advocacy of a race-pure Palestine. Just last week, Phil Weiss, the far-right Arab nationalist who runs this blog, argued that contemporary Polish Jewry is the epitome of Jewish existence in the world.

    So if a Ba’athist like Ariel is truly committed to the race-purity of Palestine, and is truly committed to an “authentic” Arab identity, then why doesn’t she study Judaism in Birobidzhan? The State of Palestine, which Code Pink celebrates as the only source of moral authority in the world, advocates that Ashkenazi Jews should live in Birobidzhan and that only Arab nationalists should attend school in Palestine.

    Like Paul Nehlen being married to a non-white, it seems very hypocritical for a far-right Arab nationalist like Ariel to want to study in Israel.

    • Mooser
      July 2, 2018, 1:47 pm

      .” Just last week, Phil Weiss, the far-right Arab nationalist who runs this blog,”

      You still haven’t read the “about page”, have you? I link it here for your convenience.

    • bcg
      July 2, 2018, 2:35 pm

      @American Perspective: “Code Pink, the far-right Ba’athist group that Gold leads…”

      What on earth are you talking about? This stuff is incoherent word salad.

      • lonely rico
        July 2, 2018, 5:09 pm

        > bcg

        incoherent word salad

        American Perspective doesn’t do coherence.

        Expect a salad of unwashed confused verbiage,
        Slathered with an dyspeptic dressing of racist hate vinaigrette.

      • eljay
        July 2, 2018, 6:22 pm

        || bcg: … What on earth are you talking about? This stuff is incoherent word salad. ||

        My guess is that after almost 3 weeks on MW he’s getting desperate to provoke the sort of reaction that would allow him to start slinging accusations of anti-Semitism and “Jew hatred”.

      • Misterioso
        July 3, 2018, 12:39 pm

        @beg

        With advocates like American Perspective, the entity known as “Israel” needs no critics.
        Indeed, he well serves the Palestinian cause.

      • American Perspective
        July 3, 2018, 1:33 pm

        I’m an American and a patriot. Why would I “advocate” for any country other than my own.

        But like all Americans, I find the far-right ideology of Arab nationalism to be vile, the cause of great suffering, and a terrible fit for Palestine. Muslims kill (and attempt to kill) us in large numbers in order to support the State of Palestine – just yesterday the Justice Department indicted an Arab nationalist who sought to blow up the Cleveland July 4th Celebrations for the State of Palestine.

        So as an American, I would likely nothing more than quietism in Palestine, which can only be achieved by surrender and de-Arabization. There is no other path to peace.

      • eljay
        July 3, 2018, 2:38 pm

        || American Perspective: I’m an American and a patriot. … ||

        And a Zionist.

        || … Why would I “advocate” for any country other than my own. … ||

        Because as a Zionist you believe in Jewish supremacism in/and a religion-supremacist “Jewish State” in as much as possible of Palestine.

      • Talkback
        July 3, 2018, 2:57 pm

        American Perspective: “So as an American, I would likely nothing more than quietism in Palestine, which can only be achieved by surrender and de-Arabization.”

        Yep. The Nazis thought the same about Jews. How far does your plan of de-Arabization go? Does it involve gas, too?

        American Perspective: “The State of Palestine, which Code Pink celebrates as the only source of moral authority in the world, advocates that Ashkenazi Jews should live in Birobidzhan and that only Arab nationalists should attend school in Palestine.”

        Yep. We allready established that you are a compulsive liar. Jews can stay in the State of Palestine, but not as Israelis.

      • echinococcus
        July 3, 2018, 6:17 pm

        Talkback,

        Jews can stay in the State of Palestine, but not as Israelis

        if authorized.

      • Talkback
        July 4, 2018, 9:24 am

        @ echi

        “Jews, to the extent they choose to stay and live in the state of Palestine, will enjoy those rights and certainly will not enjoy any less rights than Israeli Arabs enjoy now in the state of Israel,” Fayyad said in response to a question from former CIA director James Woolsey at the Aspen Institute’s Ideas Festival.
        https://www.haaretz.com/1.5073429

      • echinococcus
        July 4, 2018, 11:43 am

        Talkback

        You mean Fayyad, the ex “Prime Minister” of the “Palestinian” Authority?

        Sure, that’s some authority. Just as valid as Pétain, Tsolakoglou or Quisling giving authorization to Nazi Germans to stay. I’m so impressed.

        The only authority who can issue a valid authorization is a plebiscite of all the Palestinians, as heirs of those established before the explicitly announced colonial Zinvasion, anywhere in the world, in the absence of occupation or any other duress. Failing that, it will necessarily have to be left to Palestinian representatives once the invading Zionists are defeated, if and when.

        Meanwhile, there is no call to support the Zionist invaders (and/or their hired local agents) by issuing illegal staying permits on behalf of the unconsulted owners.

        [Also the idea that such a worthless concession to an enemy who never concedes anything, and wants everything anyway, is likely to get them to make concessions is plumb crazy.]

    • John O
      July 2, 2018, 4:09 pm

      Nurse! Quick! The screens. He’s done it again.

      • Rashers2
        July 4, 2018, 2:47 am

        And what, pray, is ” de-Arabization”, ‘American Perspective’? It sounds much like what’s been going on since the Zionist project first began to be implemented in Palestine…. MSM reports, btw, claim the Ohio would-be terrorist plotted for Al Qaeda, which is not exactly “the State of Palestine”.

      • Talkback
        July 4, 2018, 9:25 am

        De-Arabization is AP’s final solution for Nonjews in Palestine. He’s obsessed with nationalism and racial purity.

    • Cliff
      July 3, 2018, 10:21 am

      are you off your meds? get better talking points from your cult

    • Danaa
      July 3, 2018, 6:53 pm

      Far-Right? Ba’athist? what the heck are you even talking about?

      Ariel committed to “authentic Arab identity”? where’s that from?

      Honestly, AP, you have been consulting the wrong pages of your hasbara booklet. May be you thought Ariel Dore is a Christian Syrian perhaps?

      The only thing you didn’t call her yet is “Assadist”.

      I am kind of disappointed in you, American perspective. I had hopes for a higher caliber hasbaratist, and even mentioned (after some head scratching) an illustrious past commenter to these very pages, one Robert Werdine. It seems however, that a case of ADHD may have taken over you, recently. Previously, you did have flashes of coherence and showed evidence of at least some reading. But this? what, the meds wore out, or what?

      May be you thought that the Democratic and Green parties of the US are “far right”? perhaps you really meant “far left”? or may be you were under the impression that ba’atism is a movement by Jewish people in the US advocating pan-arabism in the Americas? just trying to give you a way out here…..

      Alas, poor Ariel Dore would be most surely surprised to find herself lumped with all these Ba’atists, Far rightists, ultra-nationalists and a panoply of Arab identity promoters.

      My advise to you: be careful how you read through these hasbara manuals. Some of them were written first from right to left, before a hapless translator made a bit of a hash out of it (this is known as “lost in translation”).. Also, you shouldn’t be skipping entire chapters. They didn’t tell you not to that in school?

      • echinococcus
        July 4, 2018, 1:49 am

        American Perspective is writing The Protocols of the Elders of Aqsâ.

    • Kratoklastes
      July 3, 2018, 8:18 pm

      ||”yesterday the Justice Department indicted an Arab nationalist who sought to blow up the Cleveland July 4th Celebrations for the State of Palestine.”

      Let’s add some salient facts and see how it scans…

      Yesterday the Justice Department indicted a semi-retarded black man from Cleveland (Demetrius Pitts) with no history of violence whatsoever, who had been talked into saying stupid shit during an FBI sting operation that was initiated after he (Pitts) wrote a Facebook comment in 2015.

      The last bit – that the US government will have clandestine agents sidle up to people and explicitly attempt to radicalise them – should worry anyone who has any empathy for dummies and the mentally ill.

      Let’s be really clear: almost every individual caught in one of these stings, is from the “short bus” end of the Bell Curve. And it’s not just because they’re overwhelmingly black and poor (although that doesn’t help, blackness and poverty being roughly-equal contributors to low IQ) – these are the cognitive dregs of a community whose average is a good 10 IQ points below the white median.

      So the model is: find someone who is absolutely obviously bereft of the cognitive chops to actually think through a plan, radicalise them further, help them formulate a plan… then to pull the rug out and pretend that the national-security-theatre alphabet-soup has ‘thwarted’ a genuine threat.

      Anyone who thinks that the Pitts case is an example of a genuine risk ameliorated, is almost as retarded as Pitts.

      • DaBakr
        July 6, 2018, 5:29 am

        @…

        Whee is evidence perp was “retarded” as you said? He thought Cleveland wasn’t enough families and wanted to plan the attack in Philadelphia later in the summer. So slow of wit.

  3. lenny
    July 2, 2018, 6:07 pm

    The picture of her at the wall says it all.

    • eljay
      July 3, 2018, 10:17 am

      || lenny: The picture of her at the wall says it all. ||

      “Pretty in Pink”. I agree.  :-)

  4. Steve Grover
    July 2, 2018, 7:45 pm

    lemme get this straight. Ariel Gold is a big shot at Code Pink. Ariel Gold and Code Pink calls for the academic, cultural and economic boycott of Israel. Still she wants to attend Hebrew University which is in Jerusalem, Israel which is the Capital of Israel. I guess the Universities in Israel must be so outstanding that a BDShole can’t find another college in the world to take classes. Maybe Israel, after throwing her out, will use her in promoting their Universities to the world? I hope so!

  5. jon s
    July 3, 2018, 6:35 am

    If it was up to me I would welcome bds activists with flowers and red-carpet, VIP, treatment. (But that’s just me…)
    The law against BDS is undemocratic and shameful. I suppose that I violate it every time that I express support for a boycott of the settlements…
    Nevertheless, it’s somewhat ironic that a boycott supporter complains about being blacklisted herself.

    • Cliff
      July 3, 2018, 10:22 am

      false equivocation

      dime a dozen Zionist argumentation

    • Mooser
      July 3, 2018, 1:25 pm

      “If it was up to me I would welcome bds activists with flowers and red-carpet, VIP, treatment. (But that’s just me…)”

      Yeah, but you have some absurd fantasy that everybody else is going to save Zionism from itself, and at their own expense.

      And there is no “only me” for you, “Jon s”. There is only Zionism.

    • American Perspective
      July 3, 2018, 1:35 pm

      Are you Israeli or a member of the Israeli government?

      • Mooser
        July 3, 2018, 8:33 pm

        “Are you Israeli or a member of the Israeli government?”

        No, but I’m in training to become a Chef Rabbi. At present I am a Saucier’s Apprentice.

  6. jon s
    July 3, 2018, 6:59 am

    I notice that Ms. Gold was on her way to a course at Hebrew University. How is that consistent with BDS?

    • Donald Johnson
      July 3, 2018, 8:41 am

      There are different levels of BDS— obviously not everyone agrees on how far to take it. Even you support people boycotting settlements. As for a boycott supporter complaining about blacklists, are you saying it would be appropriate for your own government to blacklist you or maybe expel you from Israel since you support a boycott of the settlements? Your two posts in this thread seem a bit contradictory on that point.

      • DaBakr
        July 5, 2018, 10:21 am

        @d

        Lol. The old,’there are levels of bds’ which just means whatever doesn’t inconvenience one ……boycott. Everything else is fair game. Hah. Hah!

      • echinococcus
        July 5, 2018, 11:16 am

        Abubakr,

        Of course there are levels of BDS. Even your partner in crime Johnny S, who took the risk of illegally settling in Palestine, says he is boycotting settlements.

    • Cliff
      July 3, 2018, 10:25 am

      We should use institutions like Hebrew University as a resource. Changing Israel from being a racist Jewish supremacist State to an egalitarian State of the people living there (jews AND arabs) is the goal.

      BDS is a tactic to achieve that goal.

      It serves no purpose to get mired in these bullshit semantics. No pro-Israel ideologue is consistent or ‘pure’ in their stances. We’re all hypocrites. The goal is to be relatively less hypocritical.

      So don’t point fingers Jon S.

      Your country is an apartheid State and has committed atrocities for decades and supported those who do as well. I guess that means you have no right to talk huh?

      • echinococcus
        July 4, 2018, 1:59 am

        Resource? She was required to have a visa to cross that border, and what better than getting admitted to a school that support student visas?
        And she isn’t like going there to support the invasion but to visit and support Palestinians and speak on their behalf where they just can’t.

    • jon s
      July 4, 2018, 3:58 am

      Donald Johnson,
      The anti-BDS law is in my view wrong ,anti-democratic and counter-productive, so, naturally I don’t want anyone blacklisted for supporting BDS. I just noted that Ms. Gold herself is on shaky moral ground , being outraged at being blacklisted while supporting BDS. I don’t support BDS. If the Israeli government would ban me from visiting the settlements, that would be fine with me.

  7. Misterioso
    July 3, 2018, 3:38 pm

    http://azvsas.blogspot.com/2018/07/shame-on-time-out-for-supporting.html

    Tony Greenstein’s Blog – July 2/18

    “Shame on Time Out for Supporting Apartheid – Inminds Activists Destroy Israeli ‘Ice-Cream’ Hasbara Stunt”

    “At this time of tragedy and despair and with the imminent eviction of the Bedouin village of Khan al Ahmar in the West Bank, it was nice to see the Inminds activist group in London brilliantly disrupting a Time Out sponsored Israeli ice-cream stunt in Bloomsbury Square, London.”

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